EPISODE 101: Michael Biggs on Puberty Blockers: From Curiosity to Exposé

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024

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  • @shiftshift6926
    @shiftshift6926 Год назад +16

    Phew, Biggs has rekindled my faith in sociologists for his adherence to freedom of academic thought ands drawing evidence based conclusions. Excellent interview thanks.

  • @lucienjohnbajada4110
    @lucienjohnbajada4110 Год назад +38

    The world needs more people like you. Thanks for all your work. As a gay man , who could have ended up like these kids ,because of internalised homophobia, im so thankful this podcast exists! Like most gay boys,as a child I thought I was a girl and I am so thankful I didn’t grow up in this generation , because I can see myself being sucked into all this if I hadn’t had the years I needed to grow into myself and figure out for myself what a man is, as a gay kid with no male role model I know I would have been a statistic . Thanks for helping fight the sterilisation of gay kids!!. You guys are my hero’s. No one seems to be able to talk about this subject in a calm reasonable manner. I bet you ladies have saved a lot of lives. This is the most informative / comprehensive / reasonable / and non judgmental view on such a hard topic to discuss.you are both such genuine ladies with a lot of class🎉🎉🎉 rare these days( I wish video had existed when you interviewed Anne Lawrence) 😮😮😮😮

  • @mackattack701
    @mackattack701 Год назад +18

    I am new to the research and history of transgenderism. This interview was excellent! But it made me sick to my stomach as well. Your podcast is among several of the best resources on this subject. Thank you!

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад +3

      Yes it can be highly distressing, but important to investigate. Thanks for listening!

  • @Ao456kl
    @Ao456kl Год назад +25

    I read a few papers on Lupron for extreme sex offenders and they all mentioned the ethical concerns due to the side affects. One suggested limiting their use to 6 months due to this.
    I was shocked when Micheal said kids are given the same dose as sex offenders were.

    • @transitionsnc
      @transitionsnc Год назад

      Wow!

    • @baconsarny-geddon8298
      @baconsarny-geddon8298 Год назад

      Because OF COURSE we're more concerned with harming convicted sex offenders, than harming healthy children...
      Same as the argument (that has been SUCCESSFUL 300+ times, in California, alone) that "we CAN'T put this poor trans-woman (who happens to be a convicted sex offender... Because while less than 1/10th of men in prison are there for sex-crimes, over HALF of imprisoned mtf's are there for sex crimes; There are less female inmates OVERALL, than there are mtf's JUST counting those convicted for sex crimes...) into MEN'S prison, because that would be an unnacceptable risk of harm to this ONE, SINGLE, LONE trans-woman...
      ...so we better put this poor, oppressed trans-woman (who's also a convicted sex offender) in WOMEN'S prison, where we are merely placing DOZENS of natal women at risk... Which is obviously WAAAY better than risking harm, to A SINGLE convicted sex offender..."
      A few years ago, I used to scoff at the "conspiracy theories" about deliberate protection, and even feeding victims to sex offenders... But over time, I see this pattern over and over again, of women and even innocent children being thrown under the bus, without a care in the world. But when we're talking about sex offenders, THEN we really need to look at the ethics, and make sure we're doing ALL WE POSSIBLY CAN to protect these vital pillars of society...

    • @pseudonamed
      @pseudonamed 8 месяцев назад

      I had a doc try to convince me to take it for fibroids. After researching it online I found many many support groups for people who were pemanently harmed by this drug, some had only taken it for a very short time. There were women who got osteoporosis in their 20s because they took it in their youth, women whose hormones never recovered and had early menopause, or fertility issues, joint problems, etc. It's a SERIOUS drug, and although it does appear children on average can recover better than older people there are many many young people damaged by it.

    • @Nous520
      @Nous520 6 месяцев назад

      There is a very concerning social trend of sympathy for child abusers and very little concern for the long term psychological and physical health of children.
      When my kids came home with an illustrated book dispensed by the NHS through the schools trying to scare them into wanting the covid vaccination and then hearing that children were being told to take it to save granny - it was abundantly clear that people and the government just do not value the vulnerability of children unless they want to take advantage of it. And those people influence other people who can’t bear to adult enough to withstand a child’s temporary suffering for the sake of their long term freedom from suffering.
      Those people don’t want the best for children, they want to extinguish their own inability to bear discomfort.
      Either way- both types are fully driven by selfish motivation.
      How anyone can think that transition of children is ALL good without being intimated by all the possible negative outcomes is so beyond anything I can even try to understand.

  • @christianrobertdemassy900
    @christianrobertdemassy900 Год назад +5

    you people are great. thank you . merci.
    it all makes so much sense.
    it took me years to be able to make sense of this question and finally liberate myself from this very troublesome ideology.
    after a good ten years of identifying as trans, i've finally come to terms with my masculinity and really embrace it.
    it is so much more liberating to accept one's nature without trying to conform it to some imagined image of oneself.
    this podcast has helped me very much.

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад +2

      Hi Christian. Thanks for saying a bit about your experience. Sounds like you've been through quite a complex and roller-coaster process. We hope you're well, and glad you're feeling liberated.

    • @robertmarshall2502
      @robertmarshall2502 Год назад +1

      Hope everything is going well for you

  • @reginazwilling5276
    @reginazwilling5276 Год назад +11

    Yay! A new drop from Sasha and Stella. Can’t wait to listen

  • @maureenparnaby1912
    @maureenparnaby1912 Год назад +5

    Excellent interview; the content is enlightening. Astounding that no clinician has been held to account.

  • @AR-ed8jp
    @AR-ed8jp Год назад +10

    Great to see your faces ladies! This was a fascinating listen on my morning commute today 👍🏻 I’m glad Michael did his work and digging

  • @EarthlingEveryman-zv7bs
    @EarthlingEveryman-zv7bs 8 месяцев назад +2

    "I suppose I really care about the truth".
    Respect & Thank you.
    (at 24:45)

  • @VoiceDialogueInDailyLife
    @VoiceDialogueInDailyLife Год назад +5

    Thank you all for your work

  • @SourPatches2077
    @SourPatches2077 Год назад +5

    Damn! That was good! Thank you to all involved.

  • @careyparis5460
    @careyparis5460 Год назад +6

    This episode is phenomenal! So much info and insight! Just brilliant- thank you!

  • @carolsykes2038
    @carolsykes2038 Год назад +5

    You're doing such important work guys and it's so nice to see such in depth discussion of girls and their puberty. More power to your elbow! Great to see your faces, too 🤩

  • @bestany5517
    @bestany5517 Год назад +9

    Excellent discussion, as usual.
    It’s wonderful to see your faces, too. A comment on the sound: Sasha’s audio is not the same quality as it usually is on the podcast.

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад +5

      (Sasha here) We had a lot of tech difficulties that day, started an hour late, and I had to resort to using my iPhone to record. We will have this fully sorted out in 2 episodes! thanks for your feedback :)

    • @bestany5517
      @bestany5517 Год назад +2

      @@widerlenspod I’m glad you made it work!

  • @tnclinton5
    @tnclinton5 Год назад +2

    Thanks so much for making this channel and sharing all this info it has helped me to understand what’s going on in this world 😅

  • @hannahreay8976
    @hannahreay8976 Год назад +10

    A brilliant interview, as always 😊 what a guy just putting himself out there!? You’ve got to admire him and thank you for interviewing him. You always find such interesting people to talk to, I love this podcast, it’s so thoughtful and considered. Loving the video
    Hannah

  • @sueciviero3866
    @sueciviero3866 Год назад +5

    It astounds me that our generation is using healthy children as guinea pigs. Taking children suffering emotionally or mentally and performing medical interventions that carry health risks is insane. Informed consent is impossible. Sterilisation cannot be understood by a child. Loss of sexual sensation cannot be understood. They can't comprehend future possible complications. Parental rights need to be upheld and parents need to see the cautionary lessons coming out of this terrifying experiment.

  • @teejarado5543
    @teejarado5543 Год назад +6

    Wow.. just WOW!
    Honest. Brave. Intelligent. Confident.
    Maybe there IS hope for academia?

  • @davidistance9872
    @davidistance9872 Год назад

    I am in awe. I listened first to Episode 125 with Sara Stockton and felt - feel - that that was essential viewing for anyone being told by their friends that they are old-fashioned and obsessing. Now this brilliant episode is still more essential viewing - how a whole narrative edifice has such shaky foundations. Bravo!

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад

      Thanks for listening and thanks for your kind words!

  • @MissNatalonga
    @MissNatalonga Год назад +3

    Fantastic interview. I'm learning so much, with your content, even if I have been following this subject for years I find that your content enriches me beyond everything I've heard or seen. I believe Mr. Biggs would be a great guest on Dr. Peterson's channel. He certainly merits a big platform to share his very important findings.

  • @pseudonamed
    @pseudonamed 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing the actual research on this.

  • @colinsoder
    @colinsoder Год назад +1

    So glad I found your video! So thoughtfully discussed and informative. Thank you!

  • @onehundredpercentmaxnochil9720
    @onehundredpercentmaxnochil9720 Год назад +1

    Great interview! I learned quite a lot 🙏

  • @karenjhine
    @karenjhine Год назад +7

    Jazz had peritoneal tissue used, not the colon. Peritoneal pullthrough is increasingly replacing the sigmoid colon technique. They can't achieve as deep depth but it avoids other complications like diversion colitis.

    • @markrussell3428
      @markrussell3428 Год назад

      It is so nice to know that the experts (like the head of WPATH Dr Marci Bowers) are still using children to play around and perfect their techniques - hopefully less kids will die. Maybe they should just wait? I am amazed the affirming advocates couldn't convince TLC not to show Jazz's surgeries. Now you can see her third surgery to fix her newly structured vagina on RUclips. Amazing just how uncomfortable her parents were with the random nature of the surgery. The video shows two expert surgeons, one with the knife at the flesh about to cut, arguing over "where to slice". This is disturbing: Gender Surgery Gone Wrong: “I Might Never Experience An Orgasm” | I Am Jazz

    • @janablom823
      @janablom823 Год назад +1

      Thanks. Reading through the study, related materials, and articles, I found no source on the details of this case, and was eventually led back to a youtube video of some dude just speculating what happened. It's crazy to me what little due diligence people are willing to do.

    • @markrussell3428
      @markrussell3428 Год назад

      @@janablom823 Its is best characterized as experimental and it might be better performed and perfected on cadavers and corpses before you start treating children like science experiments. Informed consent still rings in my head. In the words of a trans-regret survivor that had her breasts removed at 17, Prisha Mosley: “When you break it down, I decided that I didn’t want to be a women before I had ever experienced being a women. I had no idea what being a women was like because I as a child”"

  • @rogerflack415
    @rogerflack415 Год назад +1

    It needs to be asked - who has been held to account for what is being described in the video? I am curious why no one has been prosecuted.

  • @sueinraleigh3091
    @sueinraleigh3091 Год назад +1

    What a great interview!

  • @robertmarshall2502
    @robertmarshall2502 Год назад +2

    Fantastic interview again focusing on the empirical evidence.
    P.S.
    I just went to the link and while I was already shocked that 62/70 in the Dutch protocol were same-sex attracted I realize it was even more singular than that. 62/70 were ONLY same-sex attracted with another 7 bisexual and just 1 heterosexual!
    I don't think you'd find such extreme results if you went into a gay club.

  • @markrussell3428
    @markrussell3428 Год назад +3

    35:50 - "Shallow thinkers" is such an understatement !! What you are describing is health care malpractice which has evolved on such a scale it constitutes crimes against humanity. Children with legitimate dysphoria are all being treated the same - with an affirmative approach which fails to actually do any legitimate mental health enquiry. The Dutch healthcare professional sacrificed many confused adolescence and appear to be fixated on the esthetic transformation - a cosmetic physical outward appearance while essentially ignoring the psych-social impact. Have we learned nothing from eating dis-orders and body dysmorphia?. What we know is completely unhealthy, with respect to anorexia, in the eyes of the afflicted can seem perfectly acceptable. Hence you might have surgically manufactured the ideal esthetic but the result is psycho-emotional crushed. Look up the beautifully esthetic Canadian, Pina Newman (she was born Peter) but didn't make it past her 31st birthday.

  • @shannonsayshi
    @shannonsayshi Год назад +2

    Abt 2012-2013 I discovered, through my own research, that the supposed detriment to precocious puberty was decreased height.
    Who in their right mind would give small children hormones to stop their natural development when the only potential risk is being short?
    I declined to accede to the scare tactics and sales pitch by the pediatric endocrinologist to put my daughter on puberty blockers.

  • @karenjhine
    @karenjhine Год назад +28

    The obsession with passing assumes not only that patients will be happier with their bodies, but that it can save them from violence. But is a passing trans woman any less likely to be attacked in the street than a non-passing one? And inevitably most passing trans women risk being found out by a lover if they don't tell them upfront, which can lead to an angry surprise that non-passing trans women don't have to fear.

    • @exdetransitioner
      @exdetransitioner 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, we do and we have privilege when we pass as a cisgender woman. I only come out to my partners when it's safe to do, otherwise I cut them off.

  • @angiewoodward4166
    @angiewoodward4166 Год назад

    Great show! Very well done 👍

  • @kathleensawchuk4212
    @kathleensawchuk4212 Год назад +3

    Thanks!

    • @kathleensawchuk4212
      @kathleensawchuk4212 Год назад +2

      So glad that you are back and providing the information. It’s so great that others are now taking the deep dive.

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад

      @@kathleensawchuk4212 Hi Kathleen! Thanks so much for your generosity :) Great to see you here!

  • @beemacs7282
    @beemacs7282 Год назад +3

    Great understanding of the myth behind the so calldd evidence. Evidence based practiced mean evidence thatbstands up to interogation and replication. Thanks for this one

  • @irenalovesart4064
    @irenalovesart4064 Год назад

    Super episode. So good

  • @greengardener517
    @greengardener517 Год назад +7

    Stella or Sasha... The child that died from the 70 cohort study - how did they die? Was it suicide? A side-effect of the drugs? What?

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад +12

      He died of surgical complications. Full details of why/how this happened are discussed toward the end of this interview.

    • @markrussell3428
      @markrussell3428 Год назад +1

      @@widerlenspod As I have already said previously, thank you! Your work here is the best I have found anywhere on this topic. It is important and is changing lives. Can you confirm this was a MTF that died ? .

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад +1

      @@markrussell3428 Yes an MtF - thanks for your support!

  • @jennywren118
    @jennywren118 Год назад

    Fantastic interview and information. Thank you all for your tremendous work in bringing to light the hidden obstacles and risks involved in trans affirming care and surgeries.
    Unfortunately the documentary "In the Wrong Body" doesn't seem to be available from the British Film Institute anymore, or anywhere else that I can discover. Makes me suspect it's been deliberately censored, but I hope I am wrong.

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад

      It's not censored. It's only available to collect in person from the BFI

    • @jennywren118
      @jennywren118 Год назад

      @@widerlenspod Ah, that's good to know. Thank you for the info.

  • @markkavanagh7377
    @markkavanagh7377 Год назад +45

    Seeing the reaction amongst the trans activists to the new Hogwarts video game has made me think that this is a 'hate cult', if such a thing can exist.
    They hate anyone who disagrees with the ideology, and they hate themselves to the point of undergoing surgery to 'correct' themselves.
    But most remarkably they have elevated Rowling, a childrens book writer, as a totem to direct their hatred at.
    They are dour, sour and bitter, intent on destroying all creativity and pleasure.
    It's time to say NO to them.

    • @colinjackson9664
      @colinjackson9664 Год назад

      Your critique is correct. This Cult will go the same way as almost all Cults and the sooner the better. Now that the MSM is picking it up it's days are numbered.

    • @insidiousmischka
      @insidiousmischka Год назад +7

      It’s because she has been consistently speaking g out and not allowing them to shut her up. There have been real believable death threats issued to her. I think many formerly known incels are in that cult - literally just hating women.

    • @justinfarris5584
      @justinfarris5584 Год назад

      It is 100% in practice today..a cult. That’s basically all it is. They follow the same ideological principles and they found an “enemy” that is coming to get them, ect. They were just missing a “messiah”. They have now found that with Mulvaney

  • @nowistime8070
    @nowistime8070 Год назад +1

    when I had fibroids they wanted to put me on lupron and I refused it.

  • @azimuth5620
    @azimuth5620 Год назад

    Thank you 🙏

  • @karatyson8234
    @karatyson8234 Год назад +1

    I entered puberty early (as did my mother). At 9 years old, I was fully developed and 5'6". I walked into 5th grade and the other kids thought I was the teacher. It was truly awful. The kids in my class signed a petition and gave it to me. It said I was too ugly to go to school. Men in their 20s were asking me out (thank goodness all of them RAN away when they found out I was in elementary school).
    I am in my mid 50s and blockers were not an option. Looking back, I probably should have been homeschooled. I'm sure today the pediatrician would have offered blockers. In my case, perhaps it would have helped. I really don't know.

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад +1

      That sounds very difficult! Thank you for your comment

  • @beemacs7282
    @beemacs7282 Год назад

    Really should wear my glasses when typing on the phone🤓

  • @shadow.banned
    @shadow.banned Год назад +2

    Wow, he really had to fight for the data.

  • @believeintheheroic
    @believeintheheroic Год назад

    Can anyone further explain the physical side effects of puberty blocker drugs that can be harmful?

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  Год назад +1

      statsforgender.org/puberty-blockers/

  • @bilong92
    @bilong92 Год назад +4

    comment for the algorithm

  • @insidiousmischka
    @insidiousmischka Год назад +2

    Does the transgender trend coincide with the rise of identity politics? What do y’all think?

  • @kenfalloon3186
    @kenfalloon3186 Год назад +11

    If the child was killed by infection induced by the bottom surgery, that's negligent manslaughter IMO. No one will be prosecuted though.

    • @achipinthesugar
      @achipinthesugar Год назад +1

      That’s silly. We need to be the grown-ups, Ken.

    • @kenfalloon3186
      @kenfalloon3186 Год назад

      @@achipinthesugar Experimental surgery on minors is a crime right off the bat. If the minor dies, it's manslaughter.

    • @lemonz1769
      @lemonz1769 Год назад

      Generally surgeons aren’t criminally negligent if a patient gets an infection post-op regardless of what type of surgery.

    • @kenfalloon3186
      @kenfalloon3186 Год назад +4

      @@lemonz1769 Yeah that's lovely for them isn't it, which is why l said no one will be prosecuted. I say its a crime nonetheless. What would you call the destruction of a young person's healthy body by a procedure for which there is no evidence of benefit?

    • @frusia123
      @frusia123 Год назад +2

      @@kenfalloon3186 Exactly, there's a difference between a fatal post-op infection where the patient was operated for cancer and an infection and death following plastic surgery that wasn't necessary in the first place. The necessity of the procedure should matter.

  • @renan27023
    @renan27023 Год назад +2

    I just found out that I love Irish accent

  • @adridrim9805
    @adridrim9805 9 месяцев назад +1

    Oh Stella, you ate very naive to the way vaccine trials really happen.
    I hear so many parallels in these wonderful interviews to the message parents, clinicians and scientists have been trying to get out about the truth of the childhood vaccination programme.

  • @wobblyarrow84
    @wobblyarrow84 Год назад

    I think the theory of age 12 is more to do with the medicines they’re using than the child’s mind.

  • @laramei3933
    @laramei3933 Год назад

    Killing new generation!! Shame!!

  • @bee-eu6cg
    @bee-eu6cg Год назад

    Wpath again from the dutch.