Sometimes when I buy a solid ball if it’s too early I’ll take it home stick it on my spinner sand it too 3-4K grit abralon and then shine it up with I forget which compound I was using it was a pearling compound for back end snap, Storm step 2 is that a new polishing compound? I been away from bowling for a while due to health issues I’m coming back this year think I’m finally gonna buy a hyroad never owned one
They use Abralon, start at 360 and work up one grit at a time until 4k sanded. The other video announcing the 4k fast change goes into how they do it specifically
I think most of us would be interested in learning the exact steps for how to re-create the original 1500 Polish. Grit steps, which product you use, etc. so that we can re-create the old finish reliably for those of us who prefer the previous OOB finish.
@@timanders3151 500, 1000, 2000, 4000, and step 2 from storm. This is how you get the 1500 polish oob finish. How is this not the way sir? Its literally the definition.
From the resurfacing guide ( www.stormbowling.com/medias/Resurfacing_Guide_2012.pdf ) 1500-grit Polished Factory Finish 1. 500-grit pad - Sand firmly for 30 seconds on all four sides. 2. 1000-grit pad - Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides. 3. 2000-grit pad - Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides. 4. 4000-grit pad - Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides. 5. Storm® Step TwoTM - Polish lightly for 15 seconds on each side.
It's going to be a similar situation, surface is pretty mathematical. More surface will be earlier and smoother, more shine will be longer and sharper. You can take the difference you see here and apply it to other balls, like a Hustle Camo for instance, which is a solid. 4K fast vs 1500 polish on that will be the same story, 4K fast will be a bit earlier and smoother than 1500 polish.
Who are you trying to convince? Need to use Throw Bot to provide a more accurate comparison. Rev rate ,velocity, release point and release angle need to be exactly the same on each shot.
Was so glad I grabbed a couple of quarts of Step 2 while I could. 4k fast at least on my Night Road was a not great (haven't heard too many fans of 4k fast in general). If that ball had 1500 polished it would probably have not gotten discontinued. So good with 1500 polished. Sport is struggling to survive and we may have to deal with crappy string pin setters soon but USBC is worried about ball finishes. GTFOH.
Why wouldn't you use some sort of 5000 pad finish, I think only 2 on the market available. I mean nothing wrong with 4000. But wouldn't 5k be closer to the original polished state.
After a few months my Phaze 3 has lost some of its shine . It reads a bit earlier and doesn't hit as hard in the back end. Can I polish it to make it longer and sharper?
You can do 10000000 things to a ball! I guarantee you can get it baked to get the old oil out of it and add some "pop", you can resurface it and polish it, you can keep throwing it and get some lane shine... If you've also been working a lot on your release and physical game I'd also bet your PAP has changed and thusly the layout of the ball has changed. Might be worth looking into getting it plugged if you try one of the options and it's still not quite what you want. Sorry I know I threw a lot out there but there's a couple guys that come in my shop every few months asking for the same exact ball just new because it doesn't act like it used to and it really grinds my gears lol
CTD encourages you to surface the ball out of the box to match the advertised surface. You'll never get box finish back as you have no idea what it could be and it's not uncommon for them to be way off.
In order to compare such subtle differences as these, you need to be super precise with targets. With where each ball was layed down, where it crossed the arrows, and where was the breakpoint. Were they ? No. 1st shot : 1500-polish : Arrows : 15.5 , Breakpoint : 2 (and more down lane) 2nd shot : 4k Fast : Arrows : 16, Breakpoint : 3 3rd shot : 4K + extra shine : Arrows : 16+ , Breakpoint : 4 (commentary was that it went "much further downlane"...didn't seem so...) 4th shot : 500+1000+step2 : Arrows 17, Breakpoint : 6.5 5th shot : 4K fast : Arrows : 18, Breakpoint : 5 Such differences (1-2 boards) (evan half a board at times), can be responsible for what we see, instead of grit differences above 4000 with all balls being very shiny. So there may be a small difference, but it isn't easy to show that without a robot thrower.
@@LukeRosdahl I'm not saying they won't come out with something called something else that does the exact same thing because the ball is amazing but I really don't like the fact that it's two different balls between 16 lb and 15 lb !!!! Check out the dif?? It's basically two completely different balls between 16 to 15 lb but I love it I've had seven of them and from what I know it's going bye-bye had a long run.
This isn't a "well done 👏" this is a "about fn time". Storms been using that moronic 1500p for 20+ years. The last time 1500p was good for anything was when everyone was still on wooden lanes (i.e. Storm X Factor etc). They literally had to watch people scuff the surfaces a billion times over before finally deciding to change the oob.
@@Denali_Rebel The overwhelming majority of bowling centers are synthetic lanes. Not sure what rock you're living under but you may consider expanding your horizons.
Can’t wait to try this new finish out on the RST-X2 you just sent me!
My wife always complains about my 4K fast finish. Luckily whiskey exists!
She might like it with a 500 grit to 1000 grit, with extra shine. That way it comes a lil later.
Some women like it with surface on it
I’d like to see what 4k plus compound looks like.
Safe to assume that there will NOT be an option on picking the finish when ordering new balls? 4K Fast vs 4K Fast with the extra shine?
Are there any teeth under the 4K fast or is it just using a straight 4K pad?
Go watch the video on 4k fast....
goes from 500 to 4000 without skipping a pad.
@@wabbit1699 thank you. Appreciate it.
@@jakesnussbuster3565 I was looking for a quick answer. Shut your mouth & don’t be annoying if you’re no help.
@@wabbit1699 no it isn’t. 4K fast is all the grades. 500-1000-2000-4000.
Hi
Im Alex from germany and im in bowling for 42 years.
Whats the diffrence between 1500 grit polished and 4 k fast.
Alex
What date will the 4K fast finish start being shipped out?
When doing these videos can you say the oil pattern ml of oil rev rate and speed
Sometimes when I buy a solid ball if it’s too early I’ll take it home stick it on my spinner sand it too 3-4K grit abralon and then shine it up with I forget which compound I was using it was a pearling compound for back end snap, Storm step 2 is that a new polishing compound? I been away from bowling for a while due to health issues I’m coming back this year think I’m finally gonna buy a hyroad never owned one
they've had it forever.
Where’d you get the ball spinner?
Or if you don’t use yours anymore are you looking to sell?
What would be the process of applying the 4K finish to a 1500 Polish ball ?
They use Abralon, start at 360 and work up one grit at a time until 4k sanded. The other video announcing the 4k fast change goes into how they do it specifically
I think most of us would be interested in learning the exact steps for how to re-create the original 1500 Polish. Grit steps, which product you use, etc. so that we can re-create the old finish reliably for those of us who prefer the previous OOB finish.
it's on the storm website under downloads, then click on resurfacing guide
Just sand your ball and then polish it. It will act like a polished ball.
@@stompingpeak2043 that's not even close my guy.
@@timanders3151 500, 1000, 2000, 4000, and step 2 from storm. This is how you get the 1500 polish oob finish. How is this not the way sir? Its literally the definition.
From the resurfacing guide ( www.stormbowling.com/medias/Resurfacing_Guide_2012.pdf )
1500-grit Polished Factory Finish
1. 500-grit pad - Sand firmly for 30 seconds on all four sides.
2. 1000-grit pad - Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
3. 2000-grit pad - Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
4. 4000-grit pad - Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
5. Storm® Step TwoTM - Polish lightly for 15 seconds on each side.
Banger after Banger
You guys should do a test with 4K-Fast on Pearl, Hybrid and Solid.
This was on a pearl. But seeing the difference in hybrid and solid would be cool
It's going to be a similar situation, surface is pretty mathematical. More surface will be earlier and smoother, more shine will be longer and sharper. You can take the difference you see here and apply it to other balls, like a Hustle Camo for instance, which is a solid. 4K fast vs 1500 polish on that will be the same story, 4K fast will be a bit earlier and smoother than 1500 polish.
Cool video
Who are you trying to convince? Need to use Throw Bot to provide a more accurate comparison. Rev rate ,velocity, release point and release angle need to be exactly the same on each shot.
Was so glad I grabbed a couple of quarts of Step 2 while I could. 4k fast at least on my Night Road was a not great (haven't heard too many fans of 4k fast in general). If that ball had 1500 polished it would probably have not gotten discontinued. So good with 1500 polished. Sport is struggling to survive and we may have to deal with crappy string pin setters soon but USBC is worried about ball finishes. GTFOH.
Why wouldn't you use some sort of 5000 pad finish, I think only 2 on the market available. I mean nothing wrong with 4000. But wouldn't 5k be closer to the original polished state.
After a few months my Phaze 3 has lost some of its shine . It reads a bit earlier and doesn't hit as hard in the back end. Can I polish it to make it longer and sharper?
Absolutely. You always want to keep the surface fresh. I clean after every set, and re-sand and polish after every 9 games.
You can do 10000000 things to a ball! I guarantee you can get it baked to get the old oil out of it and add some "pop", you can resurface it and polish it, you can keep throwing it and get some lane shine... If you've also been working a lot on your release and physical game I'd also bet your PAP has changed and thusly the layout of the ball has changed. Might be worth looking into getting it plugged if you try one of the options and it's still not quite what you want. Sorry I know I threw a lot out there but there's a couple guys that come in my shop every few months asking for the same exact ball just new because it doesn't act like it used to and it really grinds my gears lol
@@zacknewman300you repolish after just 9 games? Dang
My Phaze 3 I just got looked liked they stopped at 1K fast 🤣
CTD encourages you to surface the ball out of the box to match the advertised surface. You'll never get box finish back as you have no idea what it could be and it's not uncommon for them to be way off.
In order to compare such subtle differences as these, you need to be super precise with targets. With where each ball was layed down, where it crossed the arrows, and where was the breakpoint. Were they ? No. 1st shot : 1500-polish : Arrows : 15.5 , Breakpoint : 2 (and more down lane)
2nd shot : 4k Fast : Arrows : 16, Breakpoint : 3
3rd shot : 4K + extra shine : Arrows : 16+ , Breakpoint : 4 (commentary was that it went "much further downlane"...didn't seem so...)
4th shot : 500+1000+step2 : Arrows 17, Breakpoint : 6.5
5th shot : 4K fast : Arrows : 18, Breakpoint : 5
Such differences (1-2 boards) (evan half a board at times), can be responsible for what we see, instead of grit differences above 4000 with all balls being very shiny.
So there may be a small difference, but it isn't easy to show that without a robot thrower.
Why do you feel the need to fix what isn’t broken? I love my 1500 polish . Leave it alone.
Cool video talk to tech bowling ball
valar morghulis.
Y use ball that is going to be gone ? Hi road is finally going to be discontinued
Don't think that's accurate . .
@@LukeRosdahl let's make a little friendly wager
@@LukeRosdahl I'll tell you this if you like the high road Pearl buy It now
@@LukeRosdahl I'm not saying they won't come out with something called something else that does the exact same thing because the ball is amazing but I really don't like the fact that it's two different balls between 16 lb and 15 lb !!!! Check out the dif?? It's basically two completely different balls between 16 to 15 lb but I love it I've had seven of them and from what I know it's going bye-bye had a long run.
@@jeremybrady567 People have said this every 6 months about the Hy-Road for the last 5 or 6 years too, I'll believe it when I see it.
This isn't a "well done 👏" this is a "about fn time". Storms been using that moronic 1500p for 20+ years. The last time 1500p was good for anything was when everyone was still on wooden lanes (i.e. Storm X Factor etc). They literally had to watch people scuff the surfaces a billion times over before finally deciding to change the oob.
I’ll need to tell every bowling alley around me that they need to switch to synthetic lanes since apparently nobody uses wooden lanes anymore.
@@Denali_Rebel The overwhelming majority of bowling centers are synthetic lanes. Not sure what rock you're living under but you may consider expanding your horizons.