The 2025 Toyota Camry is fantastic...but here's every nitpick I have with it.

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • #Toyota #Camry #Hybrid
    After my glowing reviews of the redesigned 2025 Camry, I had to share its shortcomings. Here's a list of every annoyance I had with the new Toyota Camry after driving it for a week.
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  • @MiahV007
    @MiahV007 16 дней назад +134

    Car subscriptions have to be the dumbest thing. It already costs an arm and a leg to drive. Tolls, gas, insurance, maintenance etc. now subscriptions? OK 💀

    • @moribnd
      @moribnd 16 дней назад

      If a person lives close to a dealer, it can make sense as a bundle.

    • @jackfrost99
      @jackfrost99 16 дней назад

      It's a scam. They want you to download the app so they can track all your moves and then sell the info to the insurance companies then they jack up your rates.

    • @Gopinathk17
      @Gopinathk17 16 дней назад

      City/municipality tax as well.

    • @donaldpiper9763
      @donaldpiper9763 13 дней назад +4

      ⁠@@moribnd- Living close to a dealership has nothing to do with a subscription service fee. So it makes no sense ,just another money maker for Toyota which is a big NO for me !!

    • @zaskarclf
      @zaskarclf 13 дней назад +1

      Literal charging you to send a signal thru the free Internet from your phone to your car. I'm waiting for hackers to create a work around. They always find a way. Short sighted greedy move, if they just gave u that functionality, it would create long term Brand affinity with its customer base.

  • @andylarios9983
    @andylarios9983 16 дней назад +81

    Everything is subscription these days. I’m sick of it

  • @foxgood
    @foxgood 16 дней назад +40

    I don't know why car manufacturers are all emphasizing increasingly larger wheels, when it's less economical in terms of gas consumption and more energy-intensive for an electric car.
    If the Prius Prime had 17-inch wheels, instead of 21-inch wheels, it would have more electric range, at least 10 miles more minimum.

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 16 дней назад +7

      There is probably a surprisingly large demographic that'll purchase vehicles based on if one has a bigger wheels than the other

    • @jonathanratliff4780
      @jonathanratliff4780 16 дней назад +7

      @@chibbyylol kids yes lol

    • @user-FTRU6GJ
      @user-FTRU6GJ 16 дней назад +2

      @@foxgood I think a better looking wheel is worth it over a 10 miles of range on a gas car. The cars now are slightly bigger so running 17 inch and even 18 inch on certain cars would look silly

    • @universalassociates6857
      @universalassociates6857 16 дней назад

      A coworker recently told me: “I’ve already stopped pontificating and ready to move on.” I don’t agree with him and I will keep pointing out stupid things at work. You keep going to!

    • @Marcus-id5ur
      @Marcus-id5ur 16 дней назад +8

      @foxgood yep, one of the main reasons I went with the LE, give me those 16" rims.

  • @4af
    @4af 16 дней назад +30

    This is why I buy only base LE models without added tech features. Tech = electronic torture.

  • @Marcus-id5ur
    @Marcus-id5ur 16 дней назад +40

    Had my LE for less than 2 weeks now. Only complaint is too much distracting tech. Miss my old radio with it's physical preset buttons.

    • @JunkyJeeMail
      @JunkyJeeMail 16 дней назад +3

      I also like my new 2025 Camry XLE. There's something to be said about too much tech. It can be distracting at times, I have to admit. However, I love the car anyway ❤

    • @ryannguyen4813
      @ryannguyen4813 16 дней назад

      We're looking at this for my dad who is in the 70s. I am worried about the tech as he's a simple kind of guy. It's either this or a 15-17 Honda Accord EX. What do you think?

    • @Marcus-id5ur
      @Marcus-id5ur 16 дней назад +3

      @ryannguyen4813 most of the tech I just ignore. They made me download an app... which I never use. I have no idea which safety features are on. I only use android auto on longer rides. It's just the radio, but now that I have my favorites programmed, I can just scroll through them with the steering wheel button.
      I do forsee problems with people who are trying to use the tech and are distracted by their screens.

    • @RS-qz6by
      @RS-qz6by 16 дней назад +1

      You'll get used to the tech. Honestly the LE is less distracting as it shows way less information on the dash compared to the bigger dash

    • @f1david995
      @f1david995 10 дней назад

      Imagine what would this guy react to other cars covered with touch-tech screens

  • @escheidl
    @escheidl 16 дней назад +15

    Great video Kirk. This brings the car down to earth to the reality level. These are all the things that bring buyers remorse after you've signed your life away. The takeaway here? Keep it simple. The more tech you buy, the crazier you will be. I had a loaded 2023 Camry XSE AWD for a week as a loaner with all the bells and whistles while my 2018 base LE Hybrid was indisposed. The JBL audio system in the XSE drove me crazy with all the rattles coming from the panels. The safety feature that automatically slowed the car down for the corners drove me crazy. I found it and turned it off. (Whew!) The lane keeping assist made me angry with all the tugging of the wheel while I was driving. Off it went. The big 19" wheels felt heavy and took the nimbleness away that my 18 LE Hybrid had. The 360 camera was distracting and gave a terrible view when it rained due to water on the lenses which at times gave a false sense of security due to the image being distorted from the water. When I got my LE Hybrid back I felt like now I was now back in the sports car of Camry's! It was quicker, more nimble, much lighter feeling, and just more fun to drive. And my very nice sounding 6 speaker audio system had none of those rattles! So good to be home. 😊

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we 16 дней назад +15

    I have a recent ES350, and I'm impressed by this new Camry. With this new hybrid setup, It is difficult for EVs to compete. At 45-50MPG, you are talking about 580 miles + of range. You may have to fill up once or twice a month.
    Please compare each cabin's ride quality and quietness when you have a moment with an F Sport ES350.

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 День назад

      It's a different use case entirely. EVs really fit best with those who do a lot of city driving and especially sitting in traffic. EVs are also best when you don't have to travel far as charging at home means never stopping to go to a station again. These are areas where any conventional car takes way more wear than necessary and will not last as long. EVs just aren't affected by it the same way.
      If you need to go on road trips multiple times a year over 300 miles, you just shouldn't be considering an EV. But most people don't go on road trips like this and some people even take a plane if it comes to that. Not everyone needs the extreme range as most people rarely leave the 200 mile radius of where they live outside of for vacations. I know many people even call me crazy working 90 miles from home in the next state over.
      I think people really over estimate the range they need for their daily life. For some perspective, the distance I went for work training from here in Pennsylvania to Atlanta Georgia, a 13 hour drive, would still be possible with only two charges along the way (more like about 1 and 1/3). And I still needed a fueling myself with my car. Range in gas cars matters more because the more range the less you need to go to the gas station, but with EVs it's purely how for you can go at once.

  • @roylappin4491
    @roylappin4491 16 дней назад +24

    How about some decent wheels that are NOT low profile, Indiana has more potholes than road.

    • @charlesjackson1700
      @charlesjackson1700 16 дней назад

      "Only low profile tires" on the XSE ..19"

    • @roylappin4491
      @roylappin4491 16 дней назад +3

      @@charlesjackson1700 the only one that doesn’t have low profile tire is the LE! Anyone know about spare tires?

    • @mrgurulittle7000
      @mrgurulittle7000 16 дней назад +2

      You guys even have roads? I thought Indiana only had potholes.😂😂

    • @roylappin4491
      @roylappin4491 16 дней назад +3

      @@mrgurulittle7000 very true! More potholes than road.

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 16 дней назад +3

      @@mrgurulittle7000Just came from Indiana. Holy crap.

  • @johanhermida6505
    @johanhermida6505 16 дней назад +8

    Thank you! Kirk for mentioning and pointing this out about the lack of energy flow monitor on all the Camrys trims on the multimedia screen. This vehicles are part of an beyond zero goal that Toyota has with all its new HEV's. For an icon on the Toyota line up, as the Camry is, they are missing an essential tool that basically tells the driver how your car is working and what is happening with the hybrid system and the power train. This is a tool for all drivers that helps them to be more efficient and conscious about fuel economy. This is clearly Toyota being negligent. Im an owner of a LE 2025 and it is missing this feature as well. I contacted Toyota and they give me a default customer service message that "your concern is being heard" which I dont think is true. So, thank you for bringing this up, and give us a voice to Toyota customers and Camry owners. even on the owners manual, page 114 this is a feature that is falsely advertised and it says that this is available on the multimedia screen but this is false. There are several reviewers that notice the lack of the energy flow monitor as well. This is clearly an error from Toyota and they are just disregarding the customer voices. All the other manufacturers of hybrids have functions that allow the driving to understand the how the power is being generated, even the corolla 2024 hybrid has it and the software looks exactly the same. Hopefully they pay attention to this matter. There is a reddit about it as well for Camry 2025 owners.

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  16 дней назад +2

      Thanks so much for sharing! It really is such a strange omission here.
      Hope a software update will fix it.
      Enjoy your LE! That'd be my pick

  • @patwickgriff
    @patwickgriff 16 дней назад +9

    2025 Camry LE is the one to buy. Fantastic fuel economy, great ride quality with the 16" tires and the seats are insanely comfortable and supportive. Also very roomy back seat area.

    • @wallbangerzsports
      @wallbangerzsports 16 дней назад +2

      So it’s a 2012 Chevy Impala

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 16 дней назад +3

      @@wallbangerzsportsExcept it’s still a good car at 100,000 miles and beyond.

    • @Big.W.
      @Big.W. 11 дней назад

      @@wallbangerzsportsif the impala had 50 mpg and awd they would’ve took over every city in the world with taxi cabs

    • @alexxisalexca
      @alexxisalexca 10 дней назад

      An LE is too basic on the outside!! But I agree!! Camry will go past 150k no problems

    • @Big.W.
      @Big.W. 10 дней назад

      @@alexxisalexca looks like I’m getting a black 2025 Le and putting some black 19” wheels on it

  • @alanpastreck2303
    @alanpastreck2303 16 дней назад +6

    Makes me glad I found an XSE with just the pano roof and not the rest of the premium package, about $3k cheaper. Sounds like the driver assist systems and JBL in the premium package aren't really worth it.

  • @Mylifeislegendary982.
    @Mylifeislegendary982. 16 дней назад +6

    Q2 mid size truck sales figures 2024.1.Tacoma 47.912/2nd Colorado 26.901/3rd frontier 20.219/4th canyon 11.351/5th gladiator 10.489/6TH RANGER 9.030/7th Ridgeline 8.626. new Tacoma continue to remain as the number one selling mid size truck in it's segment while having to face serious competition yet some haters like @riseabove3083 and others still keep talking bs. Let the haters go to hell and only opinion that does matter is sales figures

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 16 дней назад +12

    I always forget about wireless charging, I just plug-in. It works better and doesn't heat up your phone as much.

    • @RS-qz6by
      @RS-qz6by 16 дней назад

      Perfect for the winter though!

    • @sotheysay4040
      @sotheysay4040 11 дней назад

      I never used my wireless charger, guess it would be good in case of emergency

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 День назад

      The main benefit of them is that they don't wear out the USB port on your phone. Otherwise if you use your phone for music plugging in your phone might even give you better audio instead of using bluetooth.

    • @kevinbarry71
      @kevinbarry71 День назад

      @@Skylancer727 I have never broken a lightning port or USB port

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 День назад

      @kevinbarry71 I have, not on cellphones but I have broken a couple of fans I would wear as lanyards and gaming controllers. If you replace your phones often it's less likely to be an issue and it is less common with USB C. Still I have still broken or worn out USB C ports.
      And I did have to replace my father's iPhone for a shot lightning port. It is the next most common failure on the phone outside of broken screens.

  • @Dillingham-
    @Dillingham- 16 дней назад +18

    "All the things I couldn't say as a Lexus salesman" 🤣

  • @JackReichardt
    @JackReichardt 16 дней назад +1

    When turning DMC off, will it stay off permanently? Or does it default to "on" at each car start and must you turn it off each time?

  • @bonecollector8086
    @bonecollector8086 15 дней назад +8

    I think we can all agree that we hate those fake engine noise.

    • @MrApplesaucestuff
      @MrApplesaucestuff 7 дней назад

      It’s not fake engine noise. Pay attention

    • @user-da3kjk2lk4lw
      @user-da3kjk2lk4lw 7 дней назад +1

      You are buying one of the most reliable hybrid cars from Toyota. If you want better engine with better sounding, go look for something else. Whining here won’t help.

    • @junito1008
      @junito1008 5 дней назад +1

      @@user-da3kjk2lk4lwThese ppl are something else !! 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 they’re paying around $33K for a excellent HYBRID car and they’re complaining about a fake sound (that it’s a government mandated).

    • @user-da3kjk2lk4lw
      @user-da3kjk2lk4lw 5 дней назад +2

      @@junito1008 let them pay maintenance and insurance later. i can guarantee you, Toyota's hybrid is 1000% more reliable than regular ICE engine + less maintenance cost.

    • @junito1008
      @junito1008 5 дней назад

      @@user-da3kjk2lk4lw Of course !! 😁 a reliable car with a 50mpg gas consumption and around 30-$40K…it’s a bargain hard to beat…period !!

  • @RS-qz6by
    @RS-qz6by 16 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the Camry videos!! Really helpful for me as I'm waiting for my delivery and wondering about a lot of this stuff

  • @MR3DDev
    @MR3DDev 16 дней назад +31

    No car is perfect the question is always “ can you happily live with the flaws?”

    • @seethingsclearlyawaken3424
      @seethingsclearlyawaken3424 12 дней назад +1

      The answer is NO. I don't pay for flaws.

    • @MR3DDev
      @MR3DDev 12 дней назад +3

      @@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 then you dont buy cars

    • @Repudiate
      @Repudiate 8 дней назад +1

      @@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 Every car has a flaw, like obviously so?

    • @seethingsclearlyawaken3424
      @seethingsclearlyawaken3424 8 дней назад +1

      Not with the forced $1300 cost of an extra optioned glass roof!

    • @MR3DDev
      @MR3DDev 8 дней назад

      @@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 I hate that.

  • @jerryharrison4101
    @jerryharrison4101 16 дней назад +2

    I am so glad that you are really giving the viewer a honest description of the things that SUCK in what Toyota is doing and not just the good that should be in these expensive vehicles

  • @escheidl
    @escheidl 16 дней назад +6

    Much of this can be addressed by simply getting an LE model. As far as the "Alien sound," locate the speaker and fill it with spray foam, or wrap it with the best sound deadening material you can find. And my recommendation on subscriptions... Just say NO to subscriptions. My Camry wanted a subscription to continue using the remote start. So I bought an aftermarket plug and play remote start that works exactly like the factory unit. Ain't no way I'm paying for a subscription for something the car already does. Any feature that requires a subscription to keep working simply doesn't even exist on the car as far as I'm concerned. So when I'm weighing one car against another, if remote start requires a subscription,.. the car doesn't have remote start then. If the other car I'm considering has remote start that doesn't require a subscription,.. then THAT car has remote start, and so on. As I weigh out feature for feature, only the ones that don't require subscriptions actually exist. They can stuff their subscriptions up you know where. This subscription thing has got to stop. And we are the only ones that can stop it by not subscribing to it.

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 16 дней назад +3

      More like we boycott subscriptions by not buying their cars.

    • @kellyaustin7487
      @kellyaustin7487 16 дней назад

      ​@@faheemabbas3965Imagine buying a brand new car and then having to spray some sound dampening foam because the brand new speakers are rattling 😒

  • @zkiller195
    @zkiller195 16 дней назад +5

    I wish the packages were grouped differently (or available a la carte).
    Personally, I don't want leather or leatherette seats unless they're ventelated. But I also absolutely don't want a sunroof. JBL audio would be nice too, but again I'm 100% opposed to sunroofs and don't want a lot of the other garbage that comes on the premium plus package.
    As is, my best match would probably be a base Camry and just upgrade the sound system aftermarket. But I'd like the option to get an XSE and just check the boxes I want for options.

    • @daytonarama
      @daytonarama 15 дней назад

      The XLE with premium plus has venrtalated seats, which work well.

    • @zkiller195
      @zkiller195 15 дней назад

      @@daytonarama ...that comes with a sunroof. Which I will not have. It also has several other things that I don't really want, but a sunroof is a hard pass for me, as is the driver monitor alert (every review I've seen has said the system is overly intrusive and annoying).

  • @jonathanratliff4780
    @jonathanratliff4780 16 дней назад +3

    Does it have the build quality of the ES though Kirk? I know it has less than half the body laser weld points for rigidity so I don’t see how the build quality could be as good. I doubt there’s much ever speaker rattles in ES with Mark Levinson.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 16 дней назад +7

    Kirk, Save the money and get the LE. 😁

  • @jeremyg2245
    @jeremyg2245 16 дней назад +5

    Interested to see you to nitpick the 2025 Civic soon!

  • @richscott2483
    @richscott2483 14 дней назад +2

    Yes! The Remote Connect feature of my 2023 Camry XSE V6 had to pay $80 yr. plus tax. after the 1 yr. trial as it is the only real Subscription you need since the others have little value. The Eye monitor recognition scanner would drive everyone up the wall plus goofy placement and design. The Infotainment screen is larger and upgraded but it is not always better. I like the idea of having a Fully Digital Instrument Cluster, however, it appears to have its setbacks just like the infotainment system. No improvement in the JBL "not premium" Sound system. The cheap plastic interior is for the birds still and the seat belt buckle banging against the panel just get a padded seat belt cover for the strap. No improvement to the Heads Up Display for Brightness, Colors, Positioning, and Resolution. Weak resolution for Backup Camera. Sorry, not the first time having to comment in one of Kirk's reviews, but I hate all Hybrids and EVs. I have a fully loaded Camry XSE 3.5L V6. I feel Toyota failed severely with its 9th Generation Camry since my perception is Toyota's new 2025 design is ugly inside and out.
    The 2 Positives are the fully digital instrument cluster display and Toyota Safety Sense 3.0.
    I would take the Lexus ES-350 (V6) or 350 F-Sport (V6) over any Camry Hybrid model.
    If I had to buy a new 2025 Camry, definitely would not be the lowest Trim LE which is 100 percent garbage but the SE and XSE.
    The LE and XLE pretty much provide nothing so why get them.
    My 2023 Camry XSE V6 fully loaded MSRP $41,305. A 2025 Camry XSE Hybrid fully loaded MSRP is nearly $42,000 costing more than my wonderful V6.
    Toyota is just ripping everyone off these days.
    Believe the Mazda CX-5 and CX-50 are a better buy than any vehicle Toyota is placing on the market for 2025. Likely have to move up to the Lexus brand for a decent vehicle.
    Honda is doing rather bad, the 11th Gen. Civic is not doing so well in its reliability as expected and the Honda Accord might not see another year of production.
    In my 2023, got the Ottocast Picasou 2 Pro for wireless Apple Car Play and Android Auto, add an Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max inserted in the Picasou 2 Pro HDMI input and be amazed how your Infotainment Screen been Transformed to watch videos and no longer have limited Apps but Unlimited Apps. Also Picasou 2 Pro has an HDMI Output to connect external monitors, notebook, tablet, and for kids to watch stuff in the back seat. Get the Deja Vue Plus App ($30 mo.) watch Live TV, Live Sports any sport just name it does not matter where broadcast or blackout, Movies, TV shows complete seasons and episodes. Use your Smartphone for a Wi-Fi Hotspot then you don't need a SIM card.

  • @sylvainlaurin1012
    @sylvainlaurin1012 16 дней назад

    Thanks for all the info on the new Camry. Very usefull to know !!!

  • @Markus-dx9oy
    @Markus-dx9oy 12 дней назад +2

    Ein Toyota Camry wird nie
    besser als ein Lexus ES
    sein,aber es ist ein super
    Auto das mehr bietet als
    erwartet.Für Familien ist
    er der bessere Kompromiss
    Der Lexus ist ein feiner
    Flanieren für Menschen
    die perfektion und Luxus
    lieben.

  • @Oregoncoast30
    @Oregoncoast30 16 дней назад +2

    Kirk, thank you for giving this 1 week driving experience. Its good to hear your thoughts on the car.

  • @OhanaInPortland
    @OhanaInPortland 16 дней назад +3

    I have a hard time getting my seat belt as well. It's hard to grab the buckle because it's so close to the seat.

  • @Dongzzzzzz
    @Dongzzzzzz 16 дней назад +7

    I just checked the chinese version of the camry, interior wise and even the infotainment it's better. Never knew it existed but i guess sedans are still alive in china and with the local competition there the camry is marketed as some executive sedan while in the US it's an uber vehicle or something especially with the base model.

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  16 дней назад +7

      The headlights on the Chinese Camry are beautiful

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 16 дней назад +5

      Except the touch capacitive buttons. We’re lucky we didn’t get those.
      Otherwise better than the US Camry imo.

  • @philg3759
    @philg3759 16 дней назад +3

    I bet the ES doesn’t have that speaker rattle.

  • @Mylifeislegendary982.
    @Mylifeislegendary982. 16 дней назад +9

    New Camry is a excellent class leading mid size sedan like always and killing its competition like a perfectly tuned assassin.👑👑.

  • @YankeeMav
    @YankeeMav 16 дней назад

    Very cool…the video that is. and yeah overall what Toyota did with this refresh. Fully down for more posts in this category Kirk

  • @muffdiver4973
    @muffdiver4973 16 дней назад +3

    1:05 Totally agree with you about the seatbelt thing. I own the 2023 Prius and it has the same problem.

  • @FlexRod
    @FlexRod 16 дней назад +2

    I have an 8th Gen Se trim, and I can confirm Kirk that all Camry owners have that same seatbelt problem 😮‍💨
    This car is a great improvement overall, a few kinks yes but nothing major. Really keeping my fingers crossed for a hopeful announcement of the Crown Sport for North America, however I think they are concerned for the sales of Lexus NX and thus might never happen 😔

  • @RetroClinic
    @RetroClinic 16 дней назад +2

    Thanks goodness I got my NX before they started fitting that eye monitor nanny nonsense to everything. I had a UX300h as a courtesy car a few weeks ago, and it drove me nuts 😂 Yes you can turn those features off, but a lot of them come back on next time you start the car, at least with my NX once I turn them off, they stay off. I just hope they don’t do an over-the-air downdate and mess that up at some point.

  • @hdwrenching882
    @hdwrenching882 16 дней назад +2

    Whole Foods is Kirk's top shortcut on Google Maps. Its getting real in the Whole Foods parking lot.........

  • @davidcoleman6995
    @davidcoleman6995 15 дней назад +2

    agreed on the wireless charger. I have an iPhone and it constantly connects and disconnects. Wish I could just turn it off.

  • @singular9
    @singular9 16 дней назад +3

    never had a good wireless charger in any of my cars and I've had a couple. I think they are all just bad.

  • @foxgood
    @foxgood 16 дней назад +4

    And BMW is considering charging you the monthly rental for the heated steering wheel and heated seats.
    It's going bad

  • @kgraves058
    @kgraves058 16 дней назад +3

    I have 2007 Camry LE with JBL sound system and the same thing with certain songs/bass will rattle the front door speaker and or the rear 6x9 speaker. So from a 6th gen to the 2025 9th gen for JBL to do that is deff messed up.

  • @hossman3000
    @hossman3000 16 дней назад +1

    I appreciate your review. Your concerns are in alignment with my concerns

  • @extremepcs2807
    @extremepcs2807 13 дней назад +2

    I have a 25 XSE. My biggest complaint is the paint. Mine is black and if I look at it wrong, it scratches. 1800 miles and I already have stone chips on the hood and a scratch on the door where I washed off bird poo. My fault for not getting paint protection film, but the paint seems really soft/thin. Only other thing is the center console lid. The padding is super thin and uncomfortable to rest my elbow on.

    • @E_Rice
      @E_Rice 10 дней назад

      What else annoys you about it?

  • @mjmagic12
    @mjmagic12 16 дней назад

    Do you need the eye tracking on to use traffic jam assist?

    • @E_Rice
      @E_Rice 10 дней назад

      Yes. Kirk showed it in his Lexus demonstration so I assume it’s the same in a Toyota vehicle.

  • @Sleepyboiwonder
    @Sleepyboiwonder 14 дней назад

    Could all this be remediated with over the air updates?

  • @sh-zm7xl
    @sh-zm7xl 16 дней назад +1

    Thank you for your honesty!

  • @PKwong-xq9ze
    @PKwong-xq9ze 15 дней назад +2

    I don’t see why the American version Camry can not be designed just as good as the Chinese-market version Camrys. 😮

  • @alanclarkeau
    @alanclarkeau 16 дней назад +13

    Subscription services - making me think maybe not a TOYOTA this time.
    Toyota has a reputation for long life.
    I wonder how an old 2025 Toyota will be? "Oh, it used to have Subscription Services, but TOYOTA decided that it's too old for them to bother."
    Could wreck the reputation for great resale value.

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 16 дней назад +3

      It will apply to every car brand soon if enough people don’t boycott subscriptions.

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 15 дней назад +1

      well it's not a subscription service to start the car (yet), you just won't get remote start or whatever else

  • @x_zixc
    @x_zixc 16 дней назад +2

    its probably reason why you dont get the energy monitor bc its a manufacturer car

  • @sayftaleb6020
    @sayftaleb6020 16 дней назад +2

    Its like having a monthly period cycle when he reviewed the car.
    Nothing you mentioned is serious

  • @GDMan-fb1jx
    @GDMan-fb1jx 14 дней назад

    Thanks for the heads up 👍

  • @robertduklus6555
    @robertduklus6555 16 дней назад +4

    so its not as good as lexus then

  • @ScrewyDriverTheMan
    @ScrewyDriverTheMan 16 дней назад +3

    Let me add my gripe here as well:
    The lowest trim, LE, has the best as mileage of all the Camry trims, because it has the taller tyres.
    But if I wanted the upgraded stereo with the extra speakers and subwoofer, I have to buy the 2 high trims, it's standard in the XSE, the highest trim - BUT!!!! The MPG goes down, because the tyres are the thinner wider ones!!! And, Toyota WILL NOT sell you the LE trim with the stereo even though I want that MPG.
    Ridiculous!!!!

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 15 дней назад

      Pretty standard sales thing locking features behind certain packages (or trims in this case) so they can upsell to that tier

    • @Big.W.
      @Big.W. 11 дней назад

      Doesn’t the Le have a lithium ion battery vs the other trims that have the nickel?

    • @E_Rice
      @E_Rice 10 дней назад

      I agree this is a ridiculous practice by Toyota. I dislike it very much.

    • @ScrewyDriverTheMan
      @ScrewyDriverTheMan 10 дней назад

      @@E_Rice Yeah! All they would have to do is give me the taller tires in the top trim and I'm happy, but they won't do that, expecting me to do it after-market making me spend more money. Totally ridiculous

  • @user117831
    @user117831 16 дней назад +3

    I have the same car. When I'm on the interstate, where the road is paved with parallel grooves in the concrete to improve traction, The "Lane Keep Assist" will seem to fight with the steering like it doesn't know how to handle the road. The system will keep you in the lane, but the wheel wants to turn in a slight left-to-right fashion repeatedly.

    • @AJSparacio413
      @AJSparacio413 16 дней назад +2

      This is another reason that I can add to my list of reasons why I turn all of the driver assist things off.

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  16 дней назад +2

      just one button on the wheel to turn it off. simple.

    • @user117831
      @user117831 11 дней назад

      @@KirkKreifels Oh yeah I got it turned off.

  • @E_Rice
    @E_Rice 10 дней назад

    Kirk, please do a “nitpick” video when you get a Crown Signia Limited for review. We really need these types of videos bc no regular test drive can convey these things. I wanted the front cameras and parking assist but I hadn’t realized the accompanying front cross traffic alerts were so annoying. This is a honestly a great video.

  • @kenthompson9711
    @kenthompson9711 16 дней назад +1

    The rear sub also rattles the shelf its mounted in. Same problem they have known about since the 2018 model.

  • @kevinbonquyquy1047
    @kevinbonquyquy1047 16 дней назад +2

    For an all hybrid lineup, idk how Toyota completely skipped over have some kind of energy, hybrid battery monitor in the software. 😂

    • @steak5599
      @steak5599 16 дней назад +1

      Since it isn't a Plug In Hybrid, I think the Energy Screen is pretty irrelevant at this point. It is really just some Animations that don't really tell you anything.

  • @chrisr6401
    @chrisr6401 16 дней назад +1

    Speaker might be loose due to it being a Press Car...great takes though ....great reviews

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  16 дней назад +3

      It's early production so maybe ..

  • @jayyqnilla
    @jayyqnilla 16 дней назад +1

    I bought a Lexus ES 300h back in December. Thinking on trading it in and go for a 2025 camry. What are your thoughts? Should I take the negative equity loss for a lower payment?

    • @jayyqnilla
      @jayyqnilla 16 дней назад +2

      @@jp23baz33 thanks for your share. I just figured I’d take the cheaper payment and the Camry seems better equipped than the Lexus now. That panoramic sun roof is cool too

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  16 дней назад +3

      Test out the Camry! The biggest difference for me is interior materials and seat comfort. The 5th gen hybrid in Camry is a peach compared to the es300h. More juice, quieter, and more efficient...and smoother

    • @jayyqnilla
      @jayyqnilla 16 дней назад

      @@KirkKreifels so the Camry is more efficient than the ES300h hybrid? I know the Camry has more HP than the Lexus.
      You think it would be worth taking a hit on the negative equity of if I was to trade in my Lexus for a Camry? Mainly for the lower payments?

    • @eleanormassaro5195
      @eleanormassaro5195 16 дней назад

      @@jayyqnilla the negative equity could affect your monthly payment

    • @escheidl
      @escheidl 16 дней назад +1

      @@jp23baz33 Yes! I hear they give you cookies and coffee when you get your oil changed! 😊👍

  • @jennifergodel9235
    @jennifergodel9235 14 дней назад

    What. Model Camry is this?

  • @realtalk5931
    @realtalk5931 16 дней назад +5

    Not a great vehicle for giving birth in imo

  • @DesertProductions1
    @DesertProductions1 5 дней назад

    Good info

  • @RS-qz6by
    @RS-qz6by 16 дней назад

    Maybe a dumb question but is that eye watching sensor on the LE trim?

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  16 дней назад +3

      Nope. Only on XLE and XSE with Premium Plus Package

    • @RS-qz6by
      @RS-qz6by 16 дней назад +2

      @@KirkKreifels thank you and thank God lol

    • @escheidl
      @escheidl 16 дней назад +4

      @@KirkKreifels Well there's a $4075.00 savings right there! 😃👌

    • @tails300
      @tails300 13 дней назад

      It isn’t on the SE trim either which is awesome!

  • @johanhermida6505
    @johanhermida6505 16 дней назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @kodiakkid1088
    @kodiakkid1088 13 дней назад

    I have a 2025 XLE. And a pixel phone. No charging issues at all. The speaker rattling I would bring back, my car is quiet. And I think the shiney black on the passenger vents is nice :-)

  • @rncondie
    @rncondie 16 дней назад +6

    Kirk, I can overlook a lot of tech quirks when I am getting 51 mpg.

    • @wallbangerzsports
      @wallbangerzsports 16 дней назад +1

      Cause you’re a sissy who can’t afford gas

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 15 дней назад

      @@wallbangerzsports and if some people are? they're now in a vehicle that they have to worry about it less. win-win

  • @jackdaniels2905
    @jackdaniels2905 16 дней назад +2

    I'm considering this or the new civic Hybrid.

  • @raufnugmanov1765
    @raufnugmanov1765 16 дней назад +1

    Interesting how this "distracted driver" system deals with sunglasses, photochromic/regular lenses? It's sad that you have to pay for all these systems that eventually you turn off. For me it's also disappointing why Toyota only offers a big expensive package rather than more granuly combined features.

  • @ninjamoto21
    @ninjamoto21 16 дней назад

    One complaint I got is they got rid of the lockable glovebox which was available on every Camry but other than that it’s a excellent car for commuting

  • @tekkh
    @tekkh 10 дней назад

    wow, the energy monitor looks way better on the small dash in my se

  • @I_am_Brent
    @I_am_Brent 16 дней назад +5

    Carplay has an icon in the top left corner that allows you to see the row of Toyota options to the left of the Carplay section of the screen. Wireless charging also reportedly works better with iPhones than others.

    • @jonathanratliff4780
      @jonathanratliff4780 16 дней назад +3

      @@I_am_Brent he refuses to upgrade to an iPhone lol

    • @WaddleMan91
      @WaddleMan91 16 дней назад +4

      Yeah that’s weird because on my Camry with CarPlay it has that row of Toyota options…i guess its just an Android Auto thing

  • @vsboy2577
    @vsboy2577 15 дней назад

    He not even sweating in that car

  • @ZachAtticus611
    @ZachAtticus611 16 дней назад +1

    I have the 2025 XSE FWD, but I can’t seem to get anything more than 38mpg… anyone else having this issue?

  • @RaNDoM_MAI
    @RaNDoM_MAI 6 дней назад +1

    no memory seats?

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  6 дней назад +2

      XLE has memory

    • @gilbrook
      @gilbrook 4 дня назад

      @@KirkKreifels- Yes, in either $3,810 Premium Package or $4075 Premium Package Plus. BTW, still annoyed by banging/scratching seat belt in XSE (assume every trim)? I’d be. Deal breaker!

  • @toddsmith1617
    @toddsmith1617 16 часов назад

    My 2024 CX5 has none of that stupid eye monitoring or any of those annoying sounds for the lane departure.

  • @shawnbl2048
    @shawnbl2048 16 дней назад

    My 2020 doesn’t have that loud sound its super quite. Rented a 2025 SE for a week and that high pitch sound drove me crazy.

    • @Big.W.
      @Big.W. 16 дней назад +2

      Pretty sure it’s 2021+ for all hybrids and ev’s

    • @shawnbl2048
      @shawnbl2048 16 дней назад

      That sucks if it's one feature you need a work around is to get rid or turn that sound down

  • @DNSKY444
    @DNSKY444 16 дней назад +4

    All brands have crazy subscriptions- TBH I think is holds these companies accountable to upgrading the tech. Can't wait to get my XSE in a week!

  • @franzjosefarnuco2191
    @franzjosefarnuco2191 6 дней назад

    Hope this generation has better panoramic moonroof since previous gen had issues and it cost a lot to repair

  • @islanddon865
    @islanddon865 16 дней назад +4

    I prefer models with fewer "e-Toys" that distract, annoy and cost you plenty at purchase. I would despise that giant screen.
    Yeah, l'm sounding like my dad when he first saw cruise control!😂

  • @monkeymenso
    @monkeymenso 13 дней назад

    I am planning to buy a camry, but I think I am buying the 2024. I like the style more than the new one, and I don't care about paying more for gas.

  • @567legodude
    @567legodude 3 дня назад

    I will say the number of clicks needed to get back to the Toyota screen is completely an Android Auto implementation. In CarPlay there is a button in the corner that will show/hide the Toyota sidebar while CarPlay is running.
    Otherwise I agree with all these nitpicks from the perspective of the toyota crown, because it has the same interior and features.

  • @LeoTheShortGuy
    @LeoTheShortGuy 16 дней назад

    Awesome

  • @rogerb7147
    @rogerb7147 16 дней назад

    I believe the eye sensor will be fine-tuned and eventually become a detector for drunk or other distracted driving, and if positive will issue a warning that the car will be turned off. If it can be tuned for that purpose all vehicles will have it. The government mandate requires tech to stop operation by an impaired driver, this is one solution. I guess it's better than an in-car breathalyzer or other more intrusive way.

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 16 дней назад +1

      That is genuinely the worst idea ever. I'm only 23 and feel like a boomer. So much needless tech. Sat in the last gen as a rental and the most annoying thing was rear seats having weight sensors. Couldn't put anything back there without the car going off.
      Had a Honda Fit whose cameras told me to break over shadows and cars in the bends. Thankfully it dosent stop the car. Would have been in so many wrecks.
      This tech is so annoying, bothersome, intrusive, and unreliable.

  • @yoli159
    @yoli159 14 дней назад

    The only reason I won't be getting this car is for the subscriptions

  • @larrybowers8323
    @larrybowers8323 16 дней назад

    At the risk of some reddit style flame war.... I am inbetween this Xle, the Honda touring or the k-5. Each has their own issues but at the end of the day the costs are just too dang high. Would it cost significantly less without all the nanny state features? I think all that is need is backup cam and blind spot monitoring.

  • @evangelistaalbertomercedes7905
    @evangelistaalbertomercedes7905 День назад

    Would take the 2025 Camry Hybrid over the 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid?. I’m still undecided over which one to get out of the two.

  • @user-oy4cz9uo3n
    @user-oy4cz9uo3n 16 дней назад +2

    Toyota has THE stupidest remote start function. Not only will I not pay a subscription, but when you remote start the vehicle, it shuts off as soon as you open the door. I get why they did it (because a lawyer was involved no doubt), but I've never seen a remote start SHUT OFF when you open the door. It defeats the whole purpose of remote starting if you have to re start it again once you're in, especially if it's -25 outside!

    • @webcomment8895
      @webcomment8895 16 дней назад

      I thought Toyota fixed that on new models.
      Honda fixed that several years ago.
      The engine stays on when open the door. You still can’t drive away after remote starting unless you have the key fob with you and tap the start button.

    • @user-oy4cz9uo3n
      @user-oy4cz9uo3n 16 дней назад +1

      @@webcomment8895 well, I have a 2022 Venza Limited and it still shuts off. Maybe they've fixed it since then?

    • @webcomment8895
      @webcomment8895 16 дней назад +3

      @@user-oy4cz9uo3n It depends on the specific model. I think it requires TSS 3.0. Many new Toyotas still have TSS 2.5.

  • @kiLLinEmSoFTly
    @kiLLinEmSoFTly 15 дней назад

    Those blinking sensors is ridiculous and the design of the instrument cluster cover is absolutely ridiculous.
    Who thought that 'Dome' design would look nice?

  • @thomaspalmer6453
    @thomaspalmer6453 3 дня назад

    This video was The Nitpicker's Guide to the Toyota Camry.

  • @dinobot_maximize
    @dinobot_maximize 11 дней назад

    a more realistic energy monitor would be nice instead of roblox looking graphics. i want to see the real model of the system with animated graphics

  • @timyti88
    @timyti88 6 дней назад

    Door rattles with the bass just ruins my experience in a car.

  • @jxmar_
    @jxmar_ 16 дней назад +3

    Do this w every press car you get for now on😉

  • @jesusmartin6395
    @jesusmartin6395 13 дней назад

    That’s the same software from Subaru’s eyesight. It’s awful. I always turn it off because it yells at you for EVERYTHING.

  • @HumbleBearcat
    @HumbleBearcat 16 дней назад

    RE: "hybrid electric motor warning noise" I wonder if you can hook up a vag tool to adjust the speed that it will be turned off. 25 mph is definitely too high. I will like to set mine @ 12 mph if I ever buy one.

    • @escheidl
      @escheidl 16 дней назад +1

      The alien sound on my 2018 Camry Hybrid is very reasonable and not loud at all. I'll have to pay attention at what speed it comes on at. I'm thinking it's like 10 mph and below. I really have to pay attention and have a window down to even hear it at all.

    • @tails300
      @tails300 13 дней назад

      Just a warning that if you modify the pedestrian warning in anyway and you hit someone, you could face serious charges because they could say they couldn’t hear you (especially for the visually impaired).

    • @HumbleBearcat
      @HumbleBearcat 13 дней назад +1

      @@tails300 You have your point but 25 mph is ridiculous .

  • @Faux_59
    @Faux_59 16 дней назад +4

    Previous Gen Camry V6 owner. My biggest gripes are the car beeps at you each time the temperature js below 37F outside to drive cautiously (someone in Florida wouldn't catch that. REALLY ANNOYING for someone like me who lives up north where it's winter for half the year) and you can't adjust the interior temperature without turning the fan on first.

    • @AJSparacio413
      @AJSparacio413 16 дней назад +3

      Most new cars today warn you when it gets cold enough for possible icy roads. My wife’s Hyundai does it as well as my Subaru. Not that big of a deal.

    • @Faux_59
      @Faux_59 16 дней назад +2

      @@AJSparacio413 it's below 37F for 5 months every year where I live and it's annoying AF to have the car beep at you every day.

  • @user-tw3ck7xp6n
    @user-tw3ck7xp6n 16 дней назад

    Look forward camry style New RAV4

  • @ganzonomy
    @ganzonomy 12 дней назад

    Just give me a TRD from 2024 and ill be very happy

  • @barrysurdex5521
    @barrysurdex5521 6 дней назад

    Might try some CommaAI technology to bypass all the nanny technology you get from Toyota.

  • @heatherschandera8403
    @heatherschandera8403 16 дней назад

    you did not show mpg hand calculated at pump please us us next time

  • @snowpants2212
    @snowpants2212 15 дней назад

    "it's only 91 rn"