I have have owned two, a 1999 GS 300 and a 2005 LS 430. I still own the LS. But I switched to a different brand on my most current car. My dealership let go of all of their service advisors and hired peopled who seemed like they had no automotive service experience. They added a coffee bar that has never been open and their service is really poor. They are the only Lexus dealership in the metro area here. So, I now have a new primary car and just service my LS at a local Toyota dealership. That dealership also services my Highlander.
@@carguy-ss5tkBMW reliability is currently higher than both Toyota and Lexus right now according to both Consumer Reports and JD Powers in 2023. Also, the Germans in general are reliable enough that you won’t be stranded. I switched from Acura to BMW and the driving experience and interior build quality is just much better.
Unfortunately the gearbox really lets it down. Toyota needs a DCT in their performance automatics. The LC500 has fantastic interior quality, truly approaching Aston Martin on the high end, but there are some fundamentals that are 15 years behind.
At 71 years old .I traded my 2018 Avalon in for a 2018 Lexus ES 350 . The ES350 was a nice improvement. A few months ago ,traded the 2018 ES350 for 2021 Rx 350 with 12k miles. Loving it ❤
@@michaelmallon6346Congratulations Michael, I sincerely hope you’ll enjoy driving the RX for many years to come. As a 66 yr old (and after many other brands) I can unequivocally attest 2018-2022 RX’s are top of the heap. V6 engine, smooth comfortable ride, great outward visibility, Lexus reliability and safety and they are designed to run on 87 octane gasoline, they are indeed the last of the finest. Best regards to you.
While the quality and features differentials aren't as wide as they once were, Lexus continues to have the best dealership and customer service experience in the industry. Toyota can't say the same. I would pay thousands and thousands more for Lexus over Toyota and do and have!
I have purchased cars for over 30 years; purchase a new, used , or lease every 2 years . One car I come back to time in and time out: Lexus. Toyotas are great too but the Lexus driving experience is exactly as advertised it’s refined, it’s affordable luxury, and it’s reliable. My last Toyota was a RAV 4 2019 model . It was bare bones . I hated how I had to install lights in all the door panels because at night everything is dark , no automative seat adjustments for my front passenger. For a cabin experience it sucked and I paid 35k for that car in 2021. In 2022 for $29k I bought a Lexus es 2016 fully loaded with every luxury you would get from a Mercedes . Night and day difference from the RAV4 . Yes my cars were completely different vehicles but nothing in that RAV4 justified 35k . The RAV4 is reliable but that’s it. My point sharing is that for the same amount of money you will spend on a NEW Toyota, you can buy a used Lexus and get double or triple the amount of features you could ever get in a new Toyota. Look for well cared for Lexus’ with low mileage and a clean & clear carfax report . Most Lexus owners don’t drive the hell out of them and they are well cared for .
Maybe in the U. S., I went to at least 3 Lexus dealerships in Germany and they were shit, really bad. I bought my NX300h from a Toyota dealer and I'm servicing it there. I get it...Lexus did not market their vehicles in Europe because diesel is still the king here...or it was, as more and more people are shifting towards electric/hybrid vehicles. It took me 3 months to find the right Lexus here, I had to give up some features to get a sound one overall. And the Lexus prices here...ridiculous, you're better off with a Toyota. I chose the NX300h over the RAV4 for obvious reasons and I don't regret it at all, this car is fabulous in its class, but the Lexus "experience" does not exist in Germany, after all the brand was created for the U.S., the politeness and care was not transferred to Germany at least, must have something to do with the culture.
I had an ES built in Japan and one built in the US. The one built in Japan never made an unwanted sound on the interior. Everything was solid. The one built in the US had a rattle on the sunroof area and on the doors. Currently own an NX made in Japan and again feels more solid and has no rattles. I have noticed that difference. On everything else they have been equally solid and reliable.
I don’t know what year they started building in the USA. The one built in Japan was a 2018. The one built in the USA was a 2022. The NX has as far as I know been only built in Japan so far. Mine is a 2024. The 2018 ES was a tank. Nothing ever made a sound or rattle no matter how bad the road was (and roads in PR are some of the worst). Ride was very good on both models, although the 2022 was firmer. Maybe the rattling parts have nothing to do with US manufacturing, it was just my experience. But from anecdotal experience by people I know, Lexus are basically bulletproof no matter where they are built.
My 2018 es350 is made in America. The brand new 2025 and up will be built in Japan. Most used ones your probably considering are made in the US. I do believe the US ones have gotten better over time. No noise on my 2018. However I would always prefer the Japan versions but not a deal breaker for me personally. If you have a warranty always complain before it runs out as they are usually addressed promptly at no charge.
@@johngoff3315 My ES350 is 2015, I bought it in part because it was the last year that was made in Japan. You'll be able to tell because the first letter in the VIN will be "J."
@@johngoff3315The ES 350 was brought over from Japan to the US in the fall of 2015 one of the main reasons was that it was the biggest sedan seller in the United States so to better serve its customers and many other reasons it was brought over here. Personally I own a 2014 certified ES (bought it in 2017) Vin # starts with J, will keep it until the end of my days, still a very solid comfortable ride after 100k plus miles, never let me down.
Higher Lexus models have better interior, sound dampening, and ride quality. Swapped an Avalon with a 2024 Lexus ES and the difference is huge. Lower end models feel exactly like a Toyota, that’s why we didn’t bother upgrading a RAV4 with an NX, felt like the exact same car even dimension wise.
@@chezzyperson3339 I drove the original 2019 Japanese Toyota Crown sedan in Asia, it felt a lot like the Lexus ES, very high quality car. The new Crown version we have in the States feels like a car from Wish, too much cheap plastic.
Plastic is not a bad thing, I don't know who taught you that..... the new Crown has a very nice interior for a Toyota, although it's price is a little too much
21:07 Having lived in both Japan and America, I have to say that the difference between a master here in America and in Japan is the surrounding environment. People do not REALLY, TRULY, respect master craftsmanship in America. I have met skilled artisans here, some of whom do excellent work, but they are not respected by their communities in the same way that master artisans are in Japan. It is hard to explain the difference, but in Japan if you do craft work at a master level that is a spiritual accomplishment that has no social equivalent in America in terms of how other people look at you. America has some of the best artists in the world, without question, both in terms of high art and popular art, and a lot of them do get a lot of respect, but artisans have much quieter and less showy lives and that doesn't really mesh with our understanding of what excellence looks like. When it comes down to it, I think it's because people in America generally don't understand what it means to have a sense of responsibility to THINGS in addition to people. Maybe that's something you can only have in an animist culture or a culture that really values tradition. I'm not saying that's not something individuals here understand, but in terms of the broader community it doesn't compute. When that sensibility is acknowledged by people around you it pushes you do to go that extra mile in doing your craft as well as humanly possible.
My wife and I bought our first Lexus a few months ago-- a 2020 CPO ES 300h, Luxury Trim. Holy moley! I feel like I need earplugs when I get back into my 2014 Camry hybrid. That Lexus is spectacular.
@@KirkKreifels is it so close to the ES300H that I shouldn't bother shopping the Lexus? I crave a quiet, comfortable ride, I don't care if it's "sporty" and I'm not a brand hog so the "L" doesn't matter so much for me.
From 11:00 - 13:00 makes me feel like you don’t understand Lexus’ philosophy at all. Why rush to be the first to introduce new technology, when they can perfect it like how Apple does. A perfect example: The 2018 LS and LC were fitted with all the first new technology from their TNGA platforms and they were pretty bad. The 10 speed was unrefined at the time, the 3.4L turbo had reliability issues, the LC needed 3 years of updates to finally get the ride right. Instead of launching new cars with untested features and tech, let Toyota deal with the trial and error so that Lexus is unaffected by their issues. Look at what’s being recalled by Toyota now. All of those new TNGA F models INCLUDING the all new LX. Imagine if Lexus launched the LX and GX first, they’d all be recalled and their reputation for reliability would be ruined.
Agree and finally a comment thats in reality. KIRK these days say pure bullshit sometimes like this video. I had lots of respect for Kirk. But after this video. But that respect I had for him is gone.
I don't know If you have been looking at pricing because that never happens. Does a Mercedes cost as much as a Maybach? An ES will never cost as much as a Camry. An ES is always 30-40% more!
@@Skylancer727 Yes! I test drove it and I was shock 😮 almost perfect the hybrid system is top of the line and the smoothness is top notch. Amazing job Toyota!
@@King-kw1moGerman cars beg to differ lol BMW will charge an arm and a leg for crappy parts that leave you stranded and Audi will sell you a straight Jetta for like 80k
@@iVroomify Well I was explaining why Lexus is better than Toyota even though they’re the same brand!! Lexus actually ranks number 1 in reliability for any car brand and Toyota ranks 2nd!! BMW and Audi probably rank low ig😂😂
GH HM vs TX 500h... paint quality, ride qaulity, sound deadening, door seals, larger screen, larger digital dash, power 3rd row, better 360 camera, premium wheels, 4 wheel steering, sport tuned suspension, bigger brakes and dealership experience!. absolutely worth it. think of it as a platinum plus plus, highest Toyota trim.
Lexus TX is a full blown luxury Suv with excellent power performance comfort tech features refinement ride quality 3rd row V6 PHEV and more. Overall miles different from any GH. OVERALL I feel Kirk made this video just for content .
Comparing back-to-back I think the noise suppression and associated refinement is noticeably better on Lexus models, and definitely worth the extra money for highway driving.
Lexus ES 350, although only a few thousand dollars more than Toyota Camry, is far more quiet and absorbs bumps better, etc. It's actually cheaper than the Toyota Crown. PLUS, Lexus ES still has the wonderful, long-lasting six-cylinder engine. Camry and Crown are both now four-cylinder and hybrid.
@@speedmaster001 which aspects are you looking to for differentiation? The LC500 is a Grand Tourer; not a sports car. it is also one of the best and most beautiful cars made. BMW has lost the plot and the service requirements are not in Lexus's league. Audi isn't in the same league.
Two words. Ventilated seats. Very few Toyotas offer ventilated seats and almost every new Lexus comes with it standard (don’t know about if the NX offers it standard)
I own a 2013 Lexus RX350 with 120k. Rock solid. Runs just like the day we bought it. I also thought Toyota was the test fleet for engines and Lexus doesn't put those engines in their vehicles until proven out. They don't want issues with their luxury vehicles.
I have a 2014 RX350, 120k miles. Still runs like new and everything works like new. Interior is still flawless. I sold an SC300 Lexus coupe at 203k miles, still ran exactly as new.
Have a 2019 with NA V6, runs perfectly and by far the easiest to maintain. It’s decent on gas and loads of space and super comfortable. Getting a new BMW but I’m keeping the Lexus forever in case my other cars break down, Lexus you can always rely on
I got a new RX350 and is the best car that I drove so far. I drove a bunch of European cars VW, BMW, Mercedes not impressed at all. My first car was a Mercedes, my father car. Mehhhh
Owning a luxury car is more than the features. It’s about the buying experience and the ownership experience. The quality of the service department is paramount.
Yea but youre buying only once, so i dont think buying and customer service experience out weighs ownership and quality experience. Lexus lack in the innovation part of luxury
@@mcld4214 ok and? general comfort over everything. do you want things to break in your expensive vehicle often? sure the german cars have beefier tech....but pray tell...how reliable are those vehicles? compared to Lexus? oh right, you just want shiny luxury, not practical luxury. there's a difference
Still, the LX, LC, LS are still top of the line, when i think of lexus i think of the LS. Captain chairs with a console that controls the whole interior, spectacular interior with utmost luxurious ride comfort
We are a Toyota family, and I can see your point, Kirk. However, once I stepped into the Lexus dealership, I was amazed at the level of service, as wel the fit and finish of the vehicles. When we took out the new RX350h, I was sold. It is so nice. Part of me wishes the Signia had been released earlier. I asked my wife about looking into a trade, and she replied with a hard "no". Haha! Sometimes, all we can go with are our own experiences. As soon as our local Toyota dealership was taken over, buy a large city-based ownership group, everything went downhill. I have also noticed more creaks and rattles in our '21 Sienna than in our 2006 Sienna and our 2015 Venza. The Lexus is whisper-quiet and drives like a dream.
Nuluxe is an improvement over leather, which is why I chose Nuluxe over leather for my 2024 Lexus. If someone asks me is that real leather, I am prepared to answer, no it is better. Leather is harder to care for, more subject to temperature changes and cracking, and picking up the dyes from jeans and other materials.
I test drove a 2025 xse. The gen 5 hybrid powertrain is really good. Driving dynamics might be better than a es300h, but the interior materials, NVH levels, ride comfort are no where near an ES
I did not know your backstory with Lexus. I'd think a Toyota from 20 years ago, like my 06 Camry, probably has a longer shelf life than most Lexus models today. Not that you can buy those old models "new." Technology/regulations to blame, of course for high likelihood of failure or obsolescence
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on the Crown Signia vs any of the RXs the Lexus'are better built, quieter and smoother. Looks are subjective. It makes no sense to compare Lexus and Toyota on money. Surely if your first concern is money, pick the Toyota!
Sequoia and LX are not even on the same universe. The LX is literally a 300 Series in tuxedo, impeccably made. IMO, it’s a mistake for Lexus to discontinue either the LS or LX. They are flagship vehicles that are needed in a Tier 1 luxury brand just because they can. Toyota has the money to make them better and leave them even if they don’t sell a ton of them.
But not a true flaghip vehicle. Even owners of the new GX say they want to someday upgrade to an LX. Is the GX a better buy, of course. Does it have the caché the LX has? No. Lexus is a tier 1 Luxury brand and needs that flagship SUV(and sedan). If not, they’ll just be another Acura. Just make the LX a hybrid, Lexus!
Right now you can get a Lexus ES for less than a Toyota Camry (a smaller car) because of all the Toyota dealer markups, stock issues, and high monthly payments.
@@chezzyperson3339 you're right, but even just oil changes, etc., they're better. I know I pay more for getting routine maintenance conducted at Lexus, but it's worth it.
The problem isnt that toyota made more progress( compared to some competitors toyotas interiors and refinement is still not competitive) but its that lexus hasnt made as much progress compared to some other luxury automakers.
Lexus has always been an expensive Toyota in some ways. Like the early Lexus IS, GS, and LS were Lexus specifically designed, but the ES as well as the Land Cruiser based SUVs are basically nicer Toyota’s. So I think it’s not in line with the traditional Lexus way to make everything a Lexus specific car. What I’m saying is that it’s ok for Lexus to base some (not all) of their cars on Toyotas for cost effectiveness. But I think Lexus should keep making Lexus specific flagships like the LS, GS, IS, LC, RC, etc to set them apart from just being a nicer Toyota. Overall I think they have a good balance in their product line instead of going the expensive route of all independent design like Genesis. I could ask for a bit more of a luxurious interior, but that’s about it. Ride quality, material quality, drive quality, and quality control are all spot on with Lexus. I’d say they still are worth the money over Toyota.
That and as they introduce EV and hybrid tech, especially Prime models they should prioritize Lexus in places they sell well. More Lexus owners would be willing to pay the PHEV premium and have a home to charge them to take advantage of the drastically reduced cost of daily driving them. I can see why Toyota doesn't even bother offering a PHEV for most of their models and the ones that they do the wait list is long, they can make way more money by making them with a Lexus badge. It seems they are choosing the Toyota Prime production based on whether they have enough batteries after filling other more profitable orders, which is a very smart business move on their part.
To add comment to the Crown addition, just look at the VW group. They offer Skoda, Seat, Cupra, VW, Audi, Porsche, Lambo, Bentley. All with crossovers in pricing and they all sell. So I can see the Crown being an VW or Cupra equivalent then Lexus can rival Audi. Leave Toyota to rival Skoda/Seat etc
What are you talking about yes buying the Lexus makes more sense if you are comparing a GX 550 vs a Land Cruiser by the time you walk out of the dealership they are about the same price. They shouldn’t be but they are so GX 550 Overtrail seem like the better buy
of course it's worth it. Have people even step in both brands recently? How about multiple times a day? I detail and I go in and out of toyotas and lexus on a daily basis. You can tell right away lexus is more luxurious. Fit and finish are better. Definitely quieter. Even the materials used are totally different! The ride is so much better on lexus too! Sure, most feautres you can get on a toyota too but at that point the toyota will be close to the price of the lexus. Or might as well buy a hyundai or ford because they can have all the features of any luxury car brand too. And the crown ain't shit. Even the crown doesn't stack up to the cheapest lexus.
Same bro people were saying that about Acura and honda.I was detailing a honda pilot with leather as the top trim and it still looked cheap compare to the Mdx.
"the crown doesn't stack up to the cheapest lexus"? lol, give me a break. _people_ are impressed by piano black plastic and soft touch plastics and will pay a premium for them.
If every Lexus was built like the LC then they wouldn’t have this problem. And imo nothing above the NX in the Lexus line up should have a 4 cyl. You shouldn’t have to spend 80k on a 3 row bus to get the V6.
Of course Lexus is worth every dollar if you are willing to pay for the premium over a Toyota. Although reliability is the same, Lexus owners enjoy the exclusivity, the Lexus name, the higher grade materials, the more expensive paint job, better suspension. I’ve been driving both Lexus and Toyota zillions times always prefer Lexus even it means paying more.
Great video. The Care Care Nut did a video a year or two ago where he showed many aspects of comparable Toyota and Lexus models. The Lexus models all had better tolerances, insulation, aerodynamic cover under the chassis, etc. Please consider asking him to weigh in onn this topic. I'm sure he could show us a side-by-side comparison of the materials
@@karolsarzynski5162 yes I can ,over all quality inside and out but to be honest I like how Camry drives lot more sporty,Lexus is like more luxury quite and smooth 👍
You are correct the Lexus used to be built in Japan and has better quality and craftsmanship. My dad used to have the LS 400 and the interior was amazing and beautiful.
Kirk Toyota is setting up their top of the line brands with luxury options as Lexus becomes fully electric. Original and Toyota customers will still have a chance to buy luxury ICE vehicles. I am not worried about Toyota as a plan for their customers.
if you are a US customer, what else could you really buy if you want some reliability from a expensive car? You rather want a trouble free Lexus or the luxury German car that come with expensive repair bills.
As a consumer, l prefer having more choices, so bring on the Crowns. As a former salesperson, l hate all these choices. All the prep, learning all the trim intricacies.can drive you nuts.
Out of everyone Kirk you should know the difference between a Lexus and a Toyota. No, they're definitely not close. Some models have Lexus elements and that's about it.
and some (otherwise identical) models are (or were) badged toyota or lexus, depending on the market. the interiors/features remained unchanged, but apparently that (L) is all it takes to fool some people into believing they own a higher quality product.
@scslre They were top-end models outside Japan so they were branded as Lexus. Lexus did not exist back then in Japan fearing that it might fail because of the way things work in Japanese culture (they don't like foreign companies to take over domestic production, and Lexus was founded by the American Toyota HQ basically), so these models had to be branded as Toyota in Japan to avoid the backlash. Learn your stuff...
@@yousef.al-assaf _literally_ what i just said, dude. "they're not even close [...] some have lexus _elements,_ but that's all!" yeah. apart from the lexus cars that are literally rebadged toyotas. "bro, my ls430 owns your celsior in quality and refinement -- see the 'L'??"
@scslre I know. I am saying these were top-end luxury Toyotas that could not be sold as Lexus in Japan, so they kept the Toyota badge. They were meant to be Lexus cars to begin with, they were higher than any Toyota to begin with, got it? So if anything, these Toyotas are re-badged Lexuses. They are leagues above any other Toyota product. That only happened when Lexus did not exist in Japan. Nowadays, not a single car is shared between the two because Lexus exists in Japan, and no need for re-badging it.
I think it all depends on what you’re looking for. For most people the Signia is 75% of what the RX is but the RX offers something that luxury buyers want which is choice, with the Crown Signia, you’re stuck with one powertrain and 2 trims, with the Lexus you get 4 powertrains, a plethora of interior options and color. Do you want just a gas engine, a plug-in hybrid, a regular hybrid, a performance hybrid?, the Lexus offers the choice, you get stuff like heated and ventilated rear seats, rear wheel steering, adaptive suspension, Mark Levinson audio etc. most people can do without all that stuff but if you can afford it? Why not 😂. Like I said earlier the Crown Signia is 75% of the RX, but the the RX definitely is worth it over the Toyota for some people plus you get the luxury dealership experience and well the badge as vain as it sounds, most people would rather be seen in a Lexus rather than a Toyota. Now I’m not gonna sit here and say that every single Lexus product that has come out has been the bees knees, cos that’s not true, as much as I love the TX, I’m not a fan of the lack of wood trim, Lexus says it’s to make the interior look more youthful and sporty but I think it makes the interior look boring. Take a look at the RX and TX which share virtually the same interior and the RX looks much better cos you can get different colors apart from white, black or dark brown and you can get actual wood trim, I also don’t like how Toyota always gets the cutting edge tech first, like the NX and RX are still such with that small 7-inch MID that is used in a Corolla while the RAV4, Venza, Crown and every other Toyota on sale as per from the Corolla get the 12.3 inch screen, or just like you said Kirk, how Toyota always gets the priority when it comes to platform debuts, that has only recently changed with the GX debuting before the LC250. Lexus doesn’t really have a performance line and I don’t think the RX500, IS500 or RCF count, they are all amazing products but the RX is a FWD based family crossover and both the IS and RC are just ancient at this point. I’m still a diehard Lexus fan but they are definitely areas that they can improve in, just like every other brand.
Just bought my first car in Feb, 02 LS430 and I cant believe how much they incorporated into that car. I also bought my second car last week for $550, a 90 LS400. 400k miles and didnt drive, just needed a battery and about 2 gallons of 93. I grew up with toyota and I love both of them! Its interesting to see the differences explained with the newer models since I only have experience with the older ones. Nice vid!
I’ve owned a 98 GS 400 and currently own a 02 is300 Sportcross. Iv also owned a Land Cruiser and Camry. I LOVE THESE CARS! My Sportcross has over 305k and he runs so smooth!!! Wagons are the best!
I can tell you that where I live, theft rate and corresponding insurance rate on Lexus is sky high. That being said, I do appreciate their interior quality of materials relative to Acura. Quality in general, at that.
Sorry Bro. I rather upgrade from my 2022 Venza XLE to a 2024 Venza Limited or a Lexus RX 350H than get the Crown Signia I don’t think they can call the Signia a SUV it’s more like a SportsWagon !!!
It is odd (kinda glaringly missing) that Kirk did not list the Venza on his spreadsheet. But when the Venza was reintroduced in 2021, it was touted by reviewers as "lexus-like" without the pricetag, Crafted in Japan, making it a car I would want to own! The earlier iteration (made it Kentucky) felt cheap inside when I test drove a couple of them.
I’d say back in the day Lexus was clearly more luxurious then Toyota visibly. But currently it seems like the gap between Lexus in Toyota isn’t much anymore besides the logo.
I bought my first Lexus recently (08 ES350) and it is by far the best car i have ever owned. And I have owned a wide variety of vehicles including used and brand new across many brands. The quality is superb, its surprisingly fast and I have so much fun driving it. I think I will always be partial to Lexus now over Toyota and I plan to remain loyal to the brand from here on out!
I used to take my Toyota to the Lexus dealer, and have them match the price of my local Toyota dealership. They never had a problem matching the price, yet I got the better experience.
June 2024 - just sat in an RX and an NX. Drove the NX and was not impressed. I instantly thought of heading over to the Mazda and Acura dealerships nearby. Cheap plastics resembling what’s in my F150, audible engine noise, struggle for speed. Did not feel very luxurious. Huge disappointment.
The NX is a rebadged RAV4 with better leather and turbo. Exact same dimension sizes both from exterior and interior. The Acura RDX felt like a much nicer drive.
As far the new LBX in europe ... yes XD as the base model is cheaper that the highest model Yaris Cross ... and we know which one is a better car even so slightly.
I had an Avalon for couple years in the past and now I own a Lexus ES 350. I like the ES much better than the Avalon even they have exactly the same powertrain 2gr-fks. 😅😅
I mean they are both great cars but in my case I think it’s worth paying extra few grands to get an ES. I drive very long distance to work everyday so ES is a very nice place to be in😀
I have a 2020 Avalon TRD in Supersonic Red and hands down the best choice over any Lexus at that point in time I bought it for the money. The ES wasn't sporty enough for me, and the ES Hertz rental I drove did not impress me over my TRD. It felt old and outdated. I needed excitement! The IS 500 wasn't available yet with the V8 or I probably would of went that route, regardless of the MPG's. Although, all the roominess and 30-37 MPG I get commuting 112 miles a day makes the Avalon TRD the best choice even today. I always get compliments about the cars styling and the beautiful color. The exhaust note tuned by Yamaha is worth it's weight in gold! It's nice having a unique car not driven by everyone else in town. I have a 2007 Camry ES with 345K sitting in the driveway and I'm bored with the thought of getting another Camry. As a long time Toyota owner, I do feel the need to move up the chain into a Lexus next time, I'm just waiting for something worth wild. I don't like the new Cown's look so that will push me up to Lexus. I can't wait to see what the new IS has to offer, or the ES with an F Sport option.
@@darrin687 Avalon it is a great car for sure. I’m not arguing that. But for me I want a Lexus ES non F-Sport just because I want a comfortable car not a sporty one. You can save some money by going a Avalon that is a smart choice because you still get the same engine and transmission of the Lexus. But the interior and exterior is a different story. I think the ES looks sharper, interior feels much nicer and the most important thing is ES is quieter than the Avalon ( less wind noise and road noise at high speed). They are both great cars and you can not go wrong with either one.
Lexus owners are a hoot. They take their vehicles to Toyota dealerships because they don’t wanna pay Lexus prices and expect to be treated better than the Toyota owners.
Yea I think it is. Basically a well equipped Camry is getting close to base ES territory which has a ton of standard equipment. If you drive them back to back you can see and feel the difference. But if you don’t you will think that Toyota is enough. I drive an RX and a RC-F. The RX is definitely worth the premium over the Highlander to me.
I drove them back to back. The 25 camry was like driving in a tin can with bad door wobble and road noise. The interior had felt material to make it a "luxury" trim, and the interior plastic trim was hollow and made quite a bit of vibration noise. The stereo quality was subpar. The car drove well and I liked the gas mileage, and the get up when I needed it, but it is NOT a better vehicle than the ES. It is a value menu option when you need a vehicle.
I went through Hundai, Mazda, Toyota dealerships and I have to start swearing in the second sentence when dealing with them. In Lexus I was feeling myself well balanced and polite individual 😅😅😅
Lexus is doing very well and better than ever nowadays .their have a excellent line up of vehicles from GX TX RX and more. These crown models are no Match or not even in the same league as Lexus whatsoever. These crown vehicles are very much like GMC were there are more posh than a normal toyota but no were good as a lexus. overall Lexus is doing brilliantly and miles better than any other asian luxury rivals. While good as any Mercedes BMW Audi and more. Kirk take a little rest.
Ofcourse, the Lexus looks better, better fit and finish, better build. The Crown Signia disappointing in many areas, dull design, cheap looking plastics interior....not a Lexus. Good pricing though.
I don't think the Crown Signia looks cheap inside. I do think it's a bit overpriced for what it is. Should have been positioned under the Highlander imo.
Bought my first Lexus 3months ago, an ES300h. Our son bought a Camry LE Hybrid at the same time. We compared both and came away with the belief that while the power plants / performance were identical, the ride and styling differences perfectly contrasted our respective ages. He loves his Camry and we love our Lexus.
Lexus as we know is the upper tier of the Toyota company when you want a better quality build vehicle. It is still that way today that a Lexus vehicle uses better quality materials and refinement than the lower-level Toyota. But that philosophy has changed over the years as Quality is something of the past. However, the automotive industry really has gone CHEAP as it focuses on Safety Gadgets to aid in driving and more computerization. I very much dislike all the plastic, aluminum, and glass used to produce a vehicle, then there is way too much electrical wiring/cables/harnesses. Alloy wheels are easily damaged, lack of sound proofing/deadening material - noise reduction, and so much more. Automobiles are said to be safer because the numerous Airbags (6 to 20 plus) they install in each vehicle makes them safer, the more airbags the merrier, which is B.S. I prefer vehicles made with steel, stainless steel, or whatever that can withstand a crash or fender bender. Vehicles produced today fall apart if you look at it wrong or sideways. Auto manufacturers build cheap vehicles and priced high for Profit. If you really think about it, the whole business world is about Capitalism. endless $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Steal from the less fortunate and make them pay. I've got a deal for you, buy my crap to make me wealthy. The cost of owning a decent vehicle is outrageous. A vehicle of under $30K is a DEATH TRAP as built cheap for the POOR People. Automobiles are not affordable! All Insurance Companies are legal scams set up and allowed to operate by our United States Government as mandated by law or else there will be consequences. Okay! Want a slightly better vehicle, you have to pay much more money for it. Lexus vs Toyota or visa-versa Toyota vs Lexus. No one wins but the Auto manufacturer. In this situation Toyota/Lexus. We have your fantastic vehicle waiting for you right here, the Price is Always Right! Thank you for your kind donation! We accept your cash ... sucker. Come back soon, we love your money more.
Yes, please! High end autos are all good, but people need to recognize their needs and practice some sense when buying cars in cash or borrowing $ to do so. This is the beginning of a worthwhile conversation about car ownership
I think what hurts Lexus is they don’t change for many years,,,,I get a new one every few years it’s almost like not getting a new car,,,because they don’t change,,,,even colors stay the same for years
I always like to see a good car repeated year after year. We used to have a 2008 Nissan Xterra and they made the mistake of discontinuing them. So when ours was totaled last year, the 350 Lexus 2008 was a wonderful surprise.
I personally find that the 2000s were Lexus, Acura and Infinitis best era. I’m more of a fan of Acura, so to me the 2004-2008 TL, MDX, RSX, TSX were all beautiful, but also sporty. I think that’s where Acura to me appeals more is that I want some extra luxury goods but I want the sporty feeling. Lexus can do that but it’s hit and miss. I do disagree with the renewable sources being luxury. Volvo does a great job with that, and as younger and younger generations get to the position to afford vehicles like this, I think that’ll be the changing point. I mean, sure I’d love to have real leather but if there is something that’s synthetic that’ll not crack and is more pet friendly / kid friendly, I’m totally okay with that. Where I see Lexus going is leaning into the sporty driving and luxury experience. When I think Toyota, I think economical and efficient. Yes, they do have some nicer models but the badge does matter. Not saying it’s right, but it does. That’s why I think Mazda has a uphill battle because if you buy a CX-5, yes the top end trims can compete against an RDX, but the lower trims can’t and that’s what the majority of people see. Subaru doesn’t have that issue because they don’t try and appeal to the luxury markets, which has probably helped them a lot since they know their demographics so well. Also, for future videos, I’d be curious to know your thoughts on Honda vs Acura. Personally I think it depends on the time period. Some times, models, Acura offers more but some times it doesn’t. To me, Acura’s dark period is 2014-2018 😂. I’d say Infiniti and Nissan, but let’s be real, Infiniti is struggling hard core so unless the deal is that much better, Nissan will win.
Just went from a rav4 hybrid to an NX hybrid and I appreciate the upgrades . It’s worth it if you keep it long term since the cost per year gets closer.
I think the issue you are highlighting is that 20 years ago Lexus was way higher quality than Toyota. Now the differences are far less dramatic. I still like Lexus over Toyota generally. I’ve owned most major Lexus models and the ES is better for most people than the LS and the RX is better for most people than the LX. The RX is the king of Lexus. Lexus revolves around the RX. They put in so much to make the RX excellent.
Yes it is. There is a different ride quality and the front seat comfort is phenomenal. In addition the dealership I deal with in Saskatoon (Ens Lexus) is outstanding. I have never had that type of service in any other dealership.
I pause for a moment each time I get into our 2018 RX and smell the leather, feel the most comfortable seat I've ever had, and carress that wooden/leather wheel. I love it. And the grill? Super easy to clean the bugs off those horizontal slats and I've always embraced the nod to their heritage that the shape embodies, no matter which design fills the opening. The clanky 2GR-FKS engine? The goofy 8-speed gear hunting trans? Not so much. But, I'll pamper it, use Lexus for service (just had the 60k performed....gulp!), and drive it until they deny my license renewal! It has more than enough electronic helpers to make it safer to drive (Rear Cross-traffic Alert--tres manifique) and I need no more. And it still plays my CD collection!!
Congratulations on your new car. These are the very things I've been thinking of. You hit the nail on the head. Thanks, Kirk. Yes, I'd love you to discuss this with David. This is a very serious choice because I keep my cars beyond the warranty. My car was made in Japan and it's like saying goodbye to an old friend.
The dealership experience is worth the 10K difference. I have 2014 RX450h and I just got a fully loaded 2024 TX350. Tx 350 is a good car though. It is true that the price of the vehicle goes higher ; but the build quality goes lower. However, the Toyota dealers just make me feel greedy and filthy. Lexus dealers are way better than Toyota. If I have enough budget; I will buy what ever can make me happier as a long term user.
Here in Canada, the lowest NX 450h+ trim was only $1,500 more than a top trim Rav4 Prime. Once I sat in and drove the NX I was sold. Love my NX 450h+ and my mom liked it so much she bought one too.
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Let me know if you want me to compare more brands like this in the future!!!
Lexus NX 350h vs the top four (Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Volvo).
Yes compare them all. Great content.
I would love the comparison between mazda and lexus
Is it worth buying a Gucci bag when many others do the same damn thing?
I'd love to see Honda vs Acura, Nissan vs Infiniti, and VW vs Audi.
Had 7 Lexus. Loved all of them. Great resale. Loaners when servicing. Better than all my German cars. Never a bad experience owning Lexus.
Yeah resale value for Lexus is the clincher! Toyota reliability with a luxury polish.
I have have owned two, a 1999 GS 300 and a 2005 LS 430. I still own the LS. But I switched to a different brand on my most current car. My dealership let go of all of their service advisors and hired peopled who seemed like they had no automotive service experience. They added a coffee bar that has never been open and their service is really poor. They are the only Lexus dealership in the metro area here. So, I now have a new primary car and just service my LS at a local Toyota dealership. That dealership also services my Highlander.
I see you didn’t talk about what matters, the driving experience. Your German cars were 10 times better than those Toyotas you’re buying now.
@@Natethegreat200c Driving experience is great but getting stranded on the side of the road is not.
@@carguy-ss5tkBMW reliability is currently higher than both Toyota and Lexus right now according to both Consumer Reports and JD Powers in 2023. Also, the Germans in general are reliable enough that you won’t be stranded. I switched from Acura to BMW and the driving experience and interior build quality is just much better.
After owning both BMW and Mercedes cars in the past, the Lexus LC500 is the best car I have ever owned.
Unfortunately the gearbox really lets it down. Toyota needs a DCT in their performance automatics. The LC500 has fantastic interior quality, truly approaching Aston Martin on the high end, but there are some fundamentals that are 15 years behind.
I want one but I'm not rich, how do I get rich?
Lexus has 1 lc500, bmw and merc have 100s of better cars.
@@kaywonderer Yeah but they could be better if they bought or made a DCT. Unlocks a lot of potential
It's probably one of the best cars ever built.. such an incredible looking vehicle, sounding vehicle and performing..
Some folks step up to the Lexus just because they want to stay in the family but wanted a nicer Toyota
Thank you for saying so, and I know Lexus has massive changes coming in the future. I'm looking forward to it. 🤞🏾🤞🏾😁
This was me.
I agree
Same with honda owners moving up to Acura
@chibbyylol That's why I went from a Corolla to an IS350 myself 🔥
I hoped that one day I would be able to afford a Lexus.
At 71 years old I finally got a UX250H and it was worth the wait.
That’s very sweet, hope you get to enjoy it for many miles and years !
Congratulations 🎉 enjoy it!
At 71 years old .I traded my 2018 Avalon in for a 2018 Lexus ES 350 . The ES350 was a nice improvement. A few months ago ,traded the 2018 ES350 for 2021 Rx 350 with 12k miles. Loving it ❤
@@michaelmallon6346Congratulations Michael, I sincerely hope you’ll enjoy driving the RX for many years to come. As a 66 yr old (and after many other brands) I can unequivocally attest 2018-2022 RX’s are top of the heap. V6 engine, smooth comfortable ride, great outward visibility, Lexus reliability and safety and they are designed to run on 87 octane gasoline, they are indeed the last of the finest.
Best regards to you.
While the quality and features differentials aren't as wide as they once were, Lexus continues to have the best dealership and customer service experience in the industry. Toyota can't say the same. I would pay thousands and thousands more for Lexus over Toyota and do and have!
I have purchased cars for over 30 years; purchase a new, used , or lease every 2 years . One car I come back to time in and time out: Lexus. Toyotas are great too but the Lexus driving experience is exactly as advertised it’s refined, it’s affordable luxury, and it’s reliable. My last Toyota was a RAV 4 2019 model . It was bare bones . I hated how I had to install lights in all the door panels because at night everything is dark , no automative seat adjustments for my front passenger. For a cabin experience it sucked and I paid 35k for that car in 2021. In 2022 for $29k I bought a Lexus es 2016 fully loaded with every luxury you would get from a Mercedes . Night and day difference from the RAV4 . Yes my cars were completely different vehicles but nothing in that RAV4 justified 35k . The RAV4 is reliable but that’s it. My point sharing is that for the same amount of money you will spend on a NEW Toyota, you can buy a used Lexus and get double or triple the amount of features you could ever get in a new Toyota. Look for well cared for Lexus’ with low mileage and a clean & clear carfax report . Most Lexus owners don’t drive the hell out of them and they are well cared for .
Now you don't have to. Same crappy Toyota, for a Lexus price 😂
@@walawala-fo7ds Toyotas are so lame they attract trolls like you to hate on them.
Maybe in the U. S., I went to at least 3 Lexus dealerships in Germany and they were shit, really bad. I bought my NX300h from a Toyota dealer and I'm servicing it there. I get it...Lexus did not market their vehicles in Europe because diesel is still the king here...or it was, as more and more people are shifting towards electric/hybrid vehicles. It took me 3 months to find the right Lexus here, I had to give up some features to get a sound one overall. And the Lexus prices here...ridiculous, you're better off with a Toyota. I chose the NX300h over the RAV4 for obvious reasons and I don't regret it at all, this car is fabulous in its class, but the Lexus "experience" does not exist in Germany, after all the brand was created for the U.S., the politeness and care was not transferred to Germany at least, must have something to do with the culture.
My nickkah how do u have h pattern on yo name
I had an ES built in Japan and one built in the US. The one built in Japan never made an unwanted sound on the interior. Everything was solid. The one built in the US had a rattle on the sunroof area and on the doors. Currently own an NX made in Japan and again feels more solid and has no rattles. I have noticed that difference. On everything else they have been equally solid and reliable.
When did the ES start being built in the US? What year was yours? Im looking at older ES 350 models but not sure what years were built where.
I don’t know what year they started building in the USA. The one built in Japan was a 2018. The one built in the USA was a 2022. The NX has as far as I know been only built in Japan so far. Mine is a 2024. The 2018 ES was a tank. Nothing ever made a sound or rattle no matter how bad the road was (and roads in PR are some of the worst). Ride was very good on both models, although the 2022 was firmer. Maybe the rattling parts have nothing to do with US manufacturing, it was just my experience. But from anecdotal experience by people I know, Lexus are basically bulletproof no matter where they are built.
My 2018 es350 is made in America. The brand new 2025 and up will be built in Japan. Most used ones your probably considering are made in the US. I do believe the US ones have gotten better over time. No noise on my 2018. However I would always prefer the Japan versions but not a deal breaker for me personally. If you have a warranty always complain before it runs out as they are usually addressed promptly at no charge.
@@johngoff3315 My ES350 is 2015, I bought it in part because it was the last year that was made in Japan. You'll be able to tell because the first letter in the VIN will be "J."
@@johngoff3315The ES 350 was brought over from Japan to the US in the fall of 2015 one of the main reasons was that it was the biggest sedan seller in the United States so to better serve its customers and many other reasons it was brought over here. Personally I own a 2014 certified ES (bought it in 2017) Vin # starts with J, will keep it until the end of my days, still a very solid comfortable ride after 100k plus miles, never let me down.
Higher Lexus models have better interior, sound dampening, and ride quality. Swapped an Avalon with a 2024 Lexus ES and the difference is huge. Lower end models feel exactly like a Toyota, that’s why we didn’t bother upgrading a RAV4 with an NX, felt like the exact same car even dimension wise.
NX is smaler then a RAV 4
Avalon had better ride quality than the Crown
@@chezzyperson3339 I drove the original 2019 Japanese Toyota Crown sedan in Asia, it felt a lot like the Lexus ES, very high quality car. The new Crown version we have in the States feels like a car from Wish, too much cheap plastic.
I’m glad to know the ES production is going back to Japan in the next generation
Plastic is not a bad thing, I don't know who taught you that..... the new Crown has a very nice interior for a Toyota, although it's price is a little too much
21:07 Having lived in both Japan and America, I have to say that the difference between a master here in America and in Japan is the surrounding environment. People do not REALLY, TRULY, respect master craftsmanship in America. I have met skilled artisans here, some of whom do excellent work, but they are not respected by their communities in the same way that master artisans are in Japan. It is hard to explain the difference, but in Japan if you do craft work at a master level that is a spiritual accomplishment that has no social equivalent in America in terms of how other people look at you. America has some of the best artists in the world, without question, both in terms of high art and popular art, and a lot of them do get a lot of respect, but artisans have much quieter and less showy lives and that doesn't really mesh with our understanding of what excellence looks like. When it comes down to it, I think it's because people in America generally don't understand what it means to have a sense of responsibility to THINGS in addition to people. Maybe that's something you can only have in an animist culture or a culture that really values tradition. I'm not saying that's not something individuals here understand, but in terms of the broader community it doesn't compute. When that sensibility is acknowledged by people around you it pushes you do to go that extra mile in doing your craft as well as humanly possible.
Tahara plant 🙌🏻
the differentiating factor should be all Lexus comes with a v6/v8
Yep if Lexus keeps the ultra reliable V8 for their low volume vehicles, and Toyota is V6TT it's hands down Lexus!
and RWD imo
Unfortunately they are pushing the 4 cylinders with turbo or v6 with turbo now in some models and trying to expect folks to be happy about it.
Unfortunately there are no more V8’s, they are only offering 4 & 6 cylinder turbo, the giant TX comes with 4cyl turbo, gutless
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My wife and I bought our first Lexus a few months ago-- a 2020 CPO ES 300h, Luxury Trim. Holy moley! I feel like I need earplugs when I get back into my 2014 Camry hybrid. That Lexus is spectacular.
Try the new 2025 Camry.. you'll be surprised again
Congrats on the ES.
@@KirkKreifels is it so close to the ES300H that I shouldn't bother shopping the Lexus? I crave a quiet, comfortable ride, I don't care if it's "sporty" and I'm not a brand hog so the "L" doesn't matter so much for me.
The ES is a great car.
@@LSDOGWALKERI would like to know the answer to this question
From 11:00 - 13:00 makes me feel like you don’t understand Lexus’ philosophy at all. Why rush to be the first to introduce new technology, when they can perfect it like how Apple does. A perfect example:
The 2018 LS and LC were fitted with all the first new technology from their TNGA platforms and they were pretty bad. The 10 speed was unrefined at the time, the 3.4L turbo had reliability issues, the LC needed 3 years of updates to finally get the ride right.
Instead of launching new cars with untested features and tech, let Toyota deal with the trial and error so that Lexus is unaffected by their issues. Look at what’s being recalled by Toyota now. All of those new TNGA F models INCLUDING the all new LX. Imagine if Lexus launched the LX and GX first, they’d all be recalled and their reputation for reliability would be ruined.
Agree and finally a comment thats in reality. KIRK these days say pure bullshit sometimes like this video. I had lots of respect for Kirk. But after this video. But that respect I had for him is gone.
@@moneypower763imagine being his customer back in the day then you watched this. Damn!
@@moneypower763he has the $$ to buy these new cars now that’s what also changed
Lexus dealership experience worth every penny
I stopped going to dealerships due to getting high quality work with technicians that don't screw me over (at least relatively) at local auto shops
This!
This!
I have experience with both brands on the service end and they don't compare.
Local repair shops can screw you too@@MeJonTheDon
How so?
Yes it is. When most toyotas cost the same as a lexus. Buy a lexus. Dont be stupid.
I don't know If you have been looking at pricing because that never happens.
Does a Mercedes cost as much as a Maybach?
An ES will never cost as much as a Camry. An ES is always 30-40% more!
@@bryana8383 it is better quality though the es offers a smooth ride with a better interior
@mitch20003 sure, it's better quality, but is that extra quality worth an extra $15,000 in the Bidenomics economy? All I'm saying.
@@bryana8383 if you're financially good shape, with no debt , go for it
Price the parts and you’ll see the difference. We use Toyota parts (engine and some transmission parts) from Toyotas on Lexus vehicles due to cost
ES 350 over Camry all day! Is not even up to debate. Definitely it has to be the V6. If you want a hybrid just saved money and get the Camry
All used are phenomenal
Have you been in the new Camry? It's a whole different beast to the old one.
@@Skylancer727 Yes! I test drove it and I was shock 😮 almost perfect the hybrid system is top of the line and the smoothness is top notch. Amazing job Toyota!
@@raffiolivo3245I got the se and it’s phenomenal. The 12 in screen is a must
@@Skylancer727It’s ugly though
definitely yes, they always somehow manage to make Lexus even MORE reliable than Toyotas.
ALL my Toyota have gone 300+k miles. As did my Lexus.
Higher quality parts = more money = more reliability = Lexus😉 But Toyota Xle and Xse trims are very close to Lexus
@@King-kw1moGerman cars beg to differ lol BMW will charge an arm and a leg for crappy parts that leave you stranded and Audi will sell you a straight Jetta for like 80k
@@iVroomify Well I was explaining why Lexus is better than Toyota even though they’re the same brand!! Lexus actually ranks number 1 in reliability for any car brand and Toyota ranks 2nd!! BMW and Audi probably rank low ig😂😂
@@King-kw1mo yeah I know what you were saying lol all German brands excluding Porsche rank bottom every year
Just bought a 24 Lexus ES350. Love it.
very happy Lexus owner. what an experience
BMW and MB are also cost cutting their interiors while also jacking up their prices. Shrinkflation at its worst.
GH HM vs TX 500h... paint quality, ride qaulity, sound deadening, door seals, larger screen, larger digital dash, power 3rd row, better 360 camera, premium wheels, 4 wheel steering, sport tuned suspension, bigger brakes and dealership experience!. absolutely worth it. think of it as a platinum plus plus, highest Toyota trim.
Lexus TX is a full blown luxury Suv with excellent power performance comfort tech features refinement ride quality 3rd row V6 PHEV and more. Overall miles different from any GH. OVERALL I feel Kirk made this video just for content .
TX 500h only has 6 seats. Booooo
@@KirkKreifels so vans are better. cool
Comparing back-to-back I think the noise suppression and associated refinement is noticeably better on Lexus models, and definitely worth the extra money for highway driving.
Lexus ES 350, although only a few thousand dollars more than Toyota Camry, is far more quiet and absorbs bumps better, etc. It's actually cheaper than the Toyota Crown. PLUS, Lexus ES still has the wonderful, long-lasting six-cylinder engine. Camry and Crown are both now four-cylinder and hybrid.
LC500 spindle grill is a masterpiece.
Reminds me of a 1800s Train Cowcatcher.😂Lol
Lots of better options for that price range. I’d go with an Audi RS or a BMW M..
LC is the most beatiful modern car made. Its truly a piece of art in every way.
@@speedmaster001 which aspects are you looking to for differentiation? The LC500 is a Grand Tourer; not a sports car. it is also one of the best and most beautiful cars made. BMW has lost the plot and the service requirements are not in Lexus's league. Audi isn't in the same league.
LC500 is a masterpiece. Saw one earlier today in the parking lot.
I would like to see you and David Chao (Automotive Press) discuss quality sometime in a future show.
Two words. Ventilated seats. Very few Toyotas offer ventilated seats and almost every new Lexus comes with it standard (don’t know about if the NX offers it standard)
They should for the price point
Toyota Venza has them.
Who cares 😂
No, ventilated seats don't come standard on many Lexus models.
My damn Chrysler 200 has cooled seats … a 2011 optima has cooled seats. Y’all Toyota boys are MISSING OUT
I own a 2013 Lexus RX350 with 120k. Rock solid. Runs just like the day we bought it. I also thought Toyota was the test fleet for engines and Lexus doesn't put those engines in their vehicles until proven out. They don't want issues with their luxury vehicles.
I have a 2014 RX350, 120k miles. Still runs like new and everything works like new. Interior is still flawless. I sold an SC300 Lexus coupe at 203k miles, still ran exactly as new.
Have a 2019 with NA V6, runs perfectly and by far the easiest to maintain. It’s decent on gas and loads of space and super comfortable. Getting a new BMW but I’m keeping the Lexus forever in case my other cars break down, Lexus you can always rely on
I got a new RX350 and is the best car that I drove so far. I drove a bunch of European cars VW, BMW, Mercedes not impressed at all. My first car was a Mercedes, my father car. Mehhhh
Bro I personally love Toyota!!! Though, I want to one day have the luxury ownership of a Lexus after my current Toyotas!!!
Owning a luxury car is more than the features. It’s about the buying experience and the ownership experience. The quality of the service department is paramount.
Yea but youre buying only once, so i dont think buying and customer service experience out weighs ownership and quality experience. Lexus lack in the innovation part of luxury
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ok and? general comfort over everything. do you want things to break in your expensive vehicle often?
sure the german cars have beefier tech....but pray tell...how reliable are those vehicles? compared to Lexus? oh right, you just want shiny luxury, not practical luxury. there's a difference
@@sultrytornado5580 BMW reliability has been on the come-up lately. Dont fall behind here, the automovie world is catching up.
Still, the LX, LC, LS are still top of the line, when i think of lexus i think of the LS.
Captain chairs with a console that controls the whole interior, spectacular interior with utmost luxurious ride comfort
i love this LS500h model but it costs more than 300k USD in my country :)))
@@zeke__3990Lucky~ In Thailand that'll be a little shy of $450,000 😂
@@furinaメpininfarina omg :)))
Once you drive a Lexus, you know the answer is yes.
It depends
We are a Toyota family, and I can see your point, Kirk. However, once I stepped into the Lexus dealership, I was amazed at the level of service, as wel the fit and finish of the vehicles.
When we took out the new RX350h, I was sold. It is so nice. Part of me wishes the Signia had been released earlier. I asked my wife about looking into a trade, and she replied with a hard "no". Haha!
Sometimes, all we can go with are our own experiences. As soon as our local Toyota dealership was taken over, buy a large city-based ownership group, everything went downhill. I have also noticed more creaks and rattles in our '21 Sienna than in our 2006 Sienna and our 2015 Venza. The Lexus is whisper-quiet and drives like a dream.
@@KirkKreifelsdepends if you value dollars vs experience/quality
Nope. My $22,000 2018 Camry LE, with Michelin 16" tires, has the ride smoothness and quietness of my former $45,000 Lexus LS400
I think Kirk forgot you won't snag these popular Toyota models at their MsRP. After their markups then the comparison really heats up
Nuluxe is an improvement over leather, which is why I chose Nuluxe over leather for my 2024 Lexus. If someone asks me is that real leather, I am prepared to answer, no it is better. Leather is harder to care for, more subject to temperature changes and cracking, and picking up the dyes from jeans and other materials.
I've owned a Camry and currently own an ES 350. There is a BIG difference between the two.
Old Camry yes. New Camry no.
@@KirkKreifels . That's your opinion.
@@terence4427 agree.
@@KirkKreifels, the new Camry will have to be compared with the future ES, not with the old ES.
Apple to apple.
I test drove a 2025 xse. The gen 5 hybrid powertrain is really good. Driving dynamics might be better than a es300h, but the interior materials, NVH levels, ride comfort are no where near an ES
I did not know your backstory with Lexus. I'd think a Toyota from 20 years ago, like my 06 Camry, probably has a longer shelf life than most Lexus models today. Not that you can buy those old models "new." Technology/regulations to blame, of course for high likelihood of failure or obsolescence
I owned the first SC400 delivered to me in June 1991. By far the best car I have ever owned. Beautifully put together.
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on the Crown Signia vs any of the RXs the Lexus'are better built, quieter and smoother. Looks are subjective. It makes no sense to compare Lexus and Toyota on money. Surely if your first concern is money, pick the Toyota!
💯 Rx is quieter smoother and better built than signia. However signia isn't too far below but has a more pleasing interior and exterior design.
@zimcoder• you are absolutely correct. KIRK does it wrong sometimes
Maybe Kirk want to say, Rx is better,but 7 -10k dollars better then Signia
Sequoia and LX are not even on the same universe. The LX is literally a 300 Series in tuxedo, impeccably made. IMO, it’s a mistake for Lexus to discontinue either the LS or LX. They are flagship vehicles that are needed in a Tier 1 luxury brand just because they can. Toyota has the money to make them better and leave them even if they don’t sell a ton of them.
GX is a better buy than both LX and Sequoia
But not a true flaghip vehicle. Even owners of the new GX say they want to someday upgrade to an LX. Is the GX a better buy, of course. Does it have the caché the LX has? No. Lexus is a tier 1 Luxury brand and needs that flagship SUV(and sedan). If not, they’ll just be another Acura. Just make the LX a hybrid, Lexus!
The service department at Lexus is top notch, Toyota service is like going into ford service,,, trash
You can service your Toyota at Lexus.
The 10k Lexus Tax IS WORTH IT. The dealerships sales/repair are luxury. Toyota dealers are still a bit of a mad house.
I doubt most Lexus owners would ever need repairs as they almost never break down
Right now you can get a Lexus ES for less than a Toyota Camry (a smaller car) because of all the Toyota dealer markups, stock issues, and high monthly payments.
I have owned 7 Lexus vehicles and I'll never own anything else because of their service.
@@chezzyperson3339 you're right, but even just oil changes, etc., they're better. I know I pay more for getting routine maintenance conducted at Lexus, but it's worth it.
Can’t you just take a Toyota to the Lexus dealer, do they treat you differently if you show up to a Lexus dealership in a Toyota?
The problem isnt that toyota made more progress( compared to some competitors toyotas interiors and refinement is still not competitive) but its that lexus hasnt made as much progress compared to some other luxury automakers.
Whatever happened to the beige with dark brown interiors? It just looks so much better than pairing beige with black
Lexus has always been an expensive Toyota in some ways. Like the early Lexus IS, GS, and LS were Lexus specifically designed, but the ES as well as the Land Cruiser based SUVs are basically nicer Toyota’s. So I think it’s not in line with the traditional Lexus way to make everything a Lexus specific car. What I’m saying is that it’s ok for Lexus to base some (not all) of their cars on Toyotas for cost effectiveness. But I think Lexus should keep making Lexus specific flagships like the LS, GS, IS, LC, RC, etc to set them apart from just being a nicer Toyota. Overall I think they have a good balance in their product line instead of going the expensive route of all independent design like Genesis. I could ask for a bit more of a luxurious interior, but that’s about it. Ride quality, material quality, drive quality, and quality control are all spot on with Lexus. I’d say they still are worth the money over Toyota.
That and as they introduce EV and hybrid tech, especially Prime models they should prioritize Lexus in places they sell well. More Lexus owners would be willing to pay the PHEV premium and have a home to charge them to take advantage of the drastically reduced cost of daily driving them. I can see why Toyota doesn't even bother offering a PHEV for most of their models and the ones that they do the wait list is long, they can make way more money by making them with a Lexus badge.
It seems they are choosing the Toyota Prime production based on whether they have enough batteries after filling other more profitable orders, which is a very smart business move on their part.
@@anydaynow01I agree.
To add comment to the Crown addition, just look at the VW group. They offer Skoda, Seat, Cupra, VW, Audi, Porsche, Lambo, Bentley. All with crossovers in pricing and they all sell. So I can see the Crown being an VW or Cupra equivalent then Lexus can rival Audi. Leave Toyota to rival Skoda/Seat etc
What are you talking about yes buying the Lexus makes more sense if you are comparing a GX 550 vs a Land Cruiser by the time you walk out of the dealership they are about the same price. They shouldn’t be but they are so GX 550 Overtrail seem like the better buy
of course it's worth it. Have people even step in both brands recently? How about multiple times a day? I detail and I go in and out of toyotas and lexus on a daily basis. You can tell right away lexus is more luxurious. Fit and finish are better. Definitely quieter. Even the materials used are totally different! The ride is so much better on lexus too! Sure, most feautres you can get on a toyota too but at that point the toyota will be close to the price of the lexus. Or might as well buy a hyundai or ford because they can have all the features of any luxury car brand too. And the crown ain't shit. Even the crown doesn't stack up to the cheapest lexus.
You are absolutely correct 💯. I feel like Kirk made this video for content and nothing else.
I think because as a test driver he only spends a few minutes with the car and then read the stat sheets and say hey they are basically the same.
Same bro people were saying that about Acura and honda.I was detailing a honda pilot with leather as the top trim and it still looked cheap compare to the Mdx.
"the crown doesn't stack up to the cheapest lexus"? lol, give me a break. _people_ are impressed by piano black plastic and soft touch plastics and will pay a premium for them.
i’ll take a current gen ES350 over the new Camry any day.
Agree 💯
Same parts
@@pierlouis7325they’re different generations. What parts in the 2025 Camry are a carry over from the previous generation?
If every Lexus was built like the LC then they wouldn’t have this problem. And imo nothing above the NX in the Lexus line up should have a 4 cyl. You shouldn’t have to spend 80k on a 3 row bus to get the V6.
As soon as lexus drops their 6 cylinder they are off my radar. Im sick of the electric car craze
LC is a halo car though...
Of course Lexus is worth every dollar if you are willing to pay for the premium over a Toyota. Although reliability is the same, Lexus owners enjoy the exclusivity, the Lexus name, the higher grade materials, the more expensive paint job, better suspension. I’ve been driving both Lexus and Toyota zillions times always prefer Lexus even it means paying more.
Still love getting into my 1993 SC400 and sitting in it's fantastic interior and cruising😁
Great video. The Care Care Nut did a video a year or two ago where he showed many aspects of comparable Toyota and Lexus models. The Lexus models all had better tolerances, insulation, aerodynamic cover under the chassis, etc. Please consider asking him to weigh in onn this topic. I'm sure he could show us a side-by-side comparison of the materials
That dude trash the IS500 and he is total missing the point.
If I am spending that kind of money I won't listen to any you tube guy for advice
Its still lexus. Crown come close, but still it's not a Lexus yet
As Lexus ES owner and the same time camry , I would say if you can afford it’s worth it 💯
ES 300h owner and Camry 2025? Which year Lexus? Can you tell why Lexus over Camry?
@@karolsarzynski5162 yes I can ,over all quality inside and out but to be honest I like how Camry drives lot more sporty,Lexus is like more luxury quite and smooth 👍
You are correct the Lexus used to be built in Japan and has better quality and craftsmanship. My dad used to have the LS 400 and the interior was amazing and beautiful.
Kirk Toyota is setting up their top of the line brands with luxury options as Lexus becomes fully electric. Original and Toyota customers will still have a chance to buy luxury ICE vehicles. I am not worried about Toyota as a plan for their customers.
if you are a US customer, what else could you really buy if you want some reliability from a expensive car? You rather want a trouble free Lexus or the luxury German car that come with expensive repair bills.
As a consumer, l prefer having more choices, so bring on the Crowns. As a former salesperson, l hate all these choices. All the prep, learning all the trim intricacies.can drive you nuts.
Out of everyone Kirk you should know the difference between a Lexus and a Toyota.
No, they're definitely not close. Some models have Lexus elements and that's about it.
You are spot on 💯. I feel Kirk is a bit tired
and some (otherwise identical) models are (or were) badged toyota or lexus, depending on the market. the interiors/features remained unchanged, but apparently that (L) is all it takes to fool some people into believing they own a higher quality product.
@scslre
They were top-end models outside Japan so they were branded as Lexus. Lexus did not exist back then in Japan fearing that it might fail because of the way things work in Japanese culture (they don't like foreign companies to take over domestic production, and Lexus was founded by the American Toyota HQ basically), so these models had to be branded as Toyota in Japan to avoid the backlash. Learn your stuff...
@@yousef.al-assaf _literally_ what i just said, dude.
"they're not even close [...] some have lexus _elements,_ but that's all!"
yeah. apart from the lexus cars that are literally rebadged toyotas. "bro, my ls430 owns your celsior in quality and refinement -- see the 'L'??"
@scslre
I know. I am saying these were top-end luxury Toyotas that could not be sold as Lexus in Japan, so they kept the Toyota badge. They were meant to be Lexus cars to begin with, they were higher than any Toyota to begin with, got it?
So if anything, these Toyotas are re-badged Lexuses. They are leagues above any other Toyota product. That only happened when Lexus did not exist in Japan.
Nowadays, not a single car is shared between the two because Lexus exists in Japan, and no need for re-badging it.
Trucks I stick with Toyota, but for everything else Lexus. Lexus GX460, LX 570 and 600, LC500
I think it all depends on what you’re looking for. For most people the Signia is 75% of what the RX is but the RX offers something that luxury buyers want which is choice, with the Crown Signia, you’re stuck with one powertrain and 2 trims, with the Lexus you get 4 powertrains, a plethora of interior options and color. Do you want just a gas engine, a plug-in hybrid, a regular hybrid, a performance hybrid?, the Lexus offers the choice, you get stuff like heated and ventilated rear seats, rear wheel steering, adaptive suspension, Mark Levinson audio etc. most people can do without all that stuff but if you can afford it? Why not 😂. Like I said earlier the Crown Signia is 75% of the RX, but the the RX definitely is worth it over the Toyota for some people plus you get the luxury dealership experience and well the badge as vain as it sounds, most people would rather be seen in a Lexus rather than a Toyota. Now I’m not gonna sit here and say that every single Lexus product that has come out has been the bees knees, cos that’s not true, as much as I love the TX, I’m not a fan of the lack of wood trim, Lexus says it’s to make the interior look more youthful and sporty but I think it makes the interior look boring. Take a look at the RX and TX which share virtually the same interior and the RX looks much better cos you can get different colors apart from white, black or dark brown and you can get actual wood trim, I also don’t like how Toyota always gets the cutting edge tech first, like the NX and RX are still such with that small 7-inch MID that is used in a Corolla while the RAV4, Venza, Crown and every other Toyota on sale as per from the Corolla get the 12.3 inch screen, or just like you said Kirk, how Toyota always gets the priority when it comes to platform debuts, that has only recently changed with the GX debuting before the LC250. Lexus doesn’t really have a performance line and I don’t think the RX500, IS500 or RCF count, they are all amazing products but the RX is a FWD based family crossover and both the IS and RC are just ancient at this point. I’m still a diehard Lexus fan but they are definitely areas that they can improve in, just like every other brand.
Very well said, same here!!
Just bought my first car in Feb, 02 LS430 and I cant believe how much they incorporated into that car. I also bought my second car last week for $550, a 90 LS400. 400k miles and didnt drive, just needed a battery and about 2 gallons of 93. I grew up with toyota and I love both of them! Its interesting to see the differences explained with the newer models since I only have experience with the older ones. Nice vid!
Lexus still gives a way better experience
I’ve owned a 98 GS 400 and currently own a 02 is300 Sportcross. Iv also owned a Land Cruiser and Camry. I LOVE THESE CARS! My Sportcross has over 305k and he runs so smooth!!! Wagons are the best!
I can tell you that where I live, theft rate and corresponding insurance rate on Lexus is sky high. That being said, I do appreciate their interior quality of materials relative to Acura. Quality in general, at that.
Sorry Bro. I rather upgrade from my 2022 Venza XLE to a 2024 Venza Limited or a Lexus RX 350H than get the Crown Signia I don’t think they can call the Signia a SUV it’s more like a SportsWagon !!!
No I drive Toyota but Lexus is on another level bro.
You didnt watch the video. He didnt lexus and toyota are on the same level. He said Toyota is closing the gap. Comprehension is important.
Love my Venza past 3 years. Daily 42 mpg. Never single problem. Handles beautifully and JBL speakers fantastic.
It is odd (kinda glaringly missing) that Kirk did not list the Venza on his spreadsheet. But when the Venza was reintroduced in 2021, it was touted by reviewers as "lexus-like" without the pricetag, Crafted in Japan, making it a car I would want to own! The earlier iteration (made it Kentucky) felt cheap inside when I test drove a couple of them.
I’d say back in the day Lexus was clearly more luxurious then Toyota visibly. But currently it seems like the gap between Lexus in Toyota isn’t much anymore besides the logo.
Dealership experience- from sales to the service department- can not be beat. Worth it in my opinion
I bought my first Lexus recently (08 ES350) and it is by far the best car i have ever owned. And I have owned a wide variety of vehicles including used and brand new across many brands. The quality is superb, its surprisingly fast and I have so much fun driving it. I think I will always be partial to Lexus now over Toyota and I plan to remain loyal to the brand from here on out!
We recently bought a used 08 350 Lexus and was surprised how nice the car was. $10,500 in Albuquerque.
I used to take my Toyota to the Lexus dealer, and have them match the price of my local Toyota dealership. They never had a problem matching the price, yet I got the better experience.
June 2024 - just sat in an RX and an NX. Drove the NX and was not impressed. I instantly thought of heading over to the Mazda and Acura dealerships nearby. Cheap plastics resembling what’s in my F150, audible engine noise, struggle for speed. Did not feel very luxurious. Huge disappointment.
I over stand how ur feeling…but am still gonna drive my Lexus..doesn’t matter which one 😁
The NX is a rebadged RAV4 with better leather and turbo. Exact same dimension sizes both from exterior and interior. The Acura RDX felt like a much nicer drive.
Your loss not mine, I love it.
@@andrewgus8763 well if u wanna compare apples to apples..then I guess the RDX is a rebadge CRV right..with much nicer interior 😂
@@alwayne5932for people who aren't status-chasers, i think the quality/experience are going to matter.
This video just reinforced how much more superior Lexus is to the competition.
As far the new LBX in europe ... yes XD as the base model is cheaper that the highest model Yaris Cross ... and we know which one is a better car even so slightly.
I had an Avalon for couple years in the past and now I own a Lexus ES 350. I like the ES much better than the Avalon even they have exactly the same powertrain 2gr-fks. 😅😅
ES is better for sure
I mean they are both great cars but in my case I think it’s worth paying extra few grands to get an ES. I drive very long distance to work everyday so ES is a very nice place to be in😀
I have a 2020 Avalon TRD in Supersonic Red and hands down the best choice over any Lexus at that point in time I bought it for the money. The ES wasn't sporty enough for me, and the ES Hertz rental I drove did not impress me over my TRD. It felt old and outdated. I needed excitement! The IS 500 wasn't available yet with the V8 or I probably would of went that route, regardless of the MPG's. Although, all the roominess and 30-37 MPG I get commuting 112 miles a day makes the Avalon TRD the best choice even today. I always get compliments about the cars styling and the beautiful color. The exhaust note tuned by Yamaha is worth it's weight in gold! It's nice having a unique car not driven by everyone else in town. I have a 2007 Camry ES with 345K sitting in the driveway and I'm bored with the thought of getting another Camry. As a long time Toyota owner, I do feel the need to move up the chain into a Lexus next time, I'm just waiting for something worth wild. I don't like the new Cown's look so that will push me up to Lexus. I can't wait to see what the new IS has to offer, or the ES with an F Sport option.
@@darrin687 Avalon it is a great car for sure. I’m not arguing that. But for me I want a Lexus ES non F-Sport just because I want a comfortable car not a sporty one. You can save some money by going a Avalon that is a smart choice because you still get the same engine and transmission of the Lexus. But the interior and exterior is a different story. I think the ES looks sharper, interior feels much nicer and the most important thing is ES is quieter than the Avalon ( less wind noise and road noise at high speed). They are both great cars and you can not go wrong with either one.
Lexus owners are a hoot. They take their vehicles to Toyota dealerships because they don’t wanna pay Lexus prices and expect to be treated better than the Toyota owners.
Lol
Yea I think it is. Basically a well equipped Camry is getting close to base ES territory which has a ton of standard equipment.
If you drive them back to back you can see and feel the difference. But if you don’t you will think that Toyota is enough.
I drive an RX and a RC-F. The RX is definitely worth the premium over the Highlander to me.
Agree.
I drove them back to back. The 25 camry was like driving in a tin can with bad door wobble and road noise. The interior had felt material to make it a "luxury" trim, and the interior plastic trim was hollow and made quite a bit of vibration noise. The stereo quality was subpar. The car drove well and I liked the gas mileage, and the get up when I needed it, but it is NOT a better vehicle than the ES. It is a value menu option when you need a vehicle.
@@Kevin-zj7mgseems like that Camry was built poorly. There shouldn’t be any vibration or wobbling
I went through Hundai, Mazda, Toyota dealerships and I have to start swearing in the second sentence when dealing with them. In Lexus I was feeling myself well balanced and polite individual 😅😅😅
Lexus all the way
Lexus is doing very well and better than ever nowadays .their have a excellent line up of vehicles from GX TX RX and more. These crown models are no Match or not even in the same league as Lexus whatsoever. These crown vehicles are very much like GMC were there are more posh than a normal toyota but no were good as a lexus. overall Lexus is doing brilliantly and miles better than any other asian luxury rivals. While good as any Mercedes BMW Audi and more. Kirk take a little rest.
Lexus is #1 in reliability and #3 in low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership).
The Germans are very far away, in both reliability and even worse in TCO.
I own 2 new Lexuses (Nx hybrid, RX hybrid) and I love the synthetic tahara leather I don’t want a cow to suffer for my enjoyment
Ofcourse, the Lexus looks better, better fit and finish, better build. The Crown Signia disappointing in many areas, dull design, cheap looking plastics interior....not a Lexus. Good pricing though.
I don't think the Crown Signia looks cheap inside. I do think it's a bit overpriced for what it is. Should have been positioned under the Highlander imo.
Bought my first Lexus 3months ago, an ES300h. Our son bought a Camry LE Hybrid at the same time. We compared both and came away with the belief that while the power plants / performance were identical, the ride and styling differences perfectly contrasted our respective ages. He loves his Camry and we love our Lexus.
Of course LEXUS over TOYOTA.
& yes Kirk..am still buying my Lexus…no matter what 😁🤛🏾
Lexus as we know is the upper tier of the Toyota company when you want a better quality build vehicle. It is still that way today that a Lexus vehicle uses better quality materials and refinement than the lower-level Toyota. But that philosophy has changed over the years as Quality is something of the past. However, the automotive industry really has gone CHEAP as it focuses on Safety Gadgets to aid in driving and more computerization. I very much dislike all the plastic, aluminum, and glass used to produce a vehicle, then there is way too much electrical wiring/cables/harnesses. Alloy wheels are easily damaged, lack of sound proofing/deadening material - noise reduction, and so much more. Automobiles are said to be safer because the numerous Airbags (6 to 20 plus) they install in each vehicle makes them safer, the more airbags the merrier, which is B.S. I prefer vehicles made with steel, stainless steel, or whatever that can withstand a crash or fender bender. Vehicles produced today fall apart if you look at it wrong or sideways. Auto manufacturers build cheap vehicles and priced high for Profit.
If you really think about it, the whole business world is about Capitalism. endless $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Steal from the less fortunate and make them pay. I've got a deal for you, buy my crap to make me wealthy.
The cost of owning a decent vehicle is outrageous. A vehicle of under $30K is a DEATH TRAP as built cheap for the POOR People. Automobiles are not affordable! All Insurance Companies are legal scams set up and allowed to operate by our United States Government as mandated by law or else there will be consequences.
Okay! Want a slightly better vehicle, you have to pay much more money for it. Lexus vs Toyota or visa-versa Toyota vs Lexus. No one wins but the Auto manufacturer. In this situation Toyota/Lexus.
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Yes, please! High end autos are all good, but people need to recognize their needs and practice some sense when buying cars in cash or borrowing $ to do so. This is the beginning of a worthwhile conversation about car ownership
Oh Also the 10+ years of their refusal to get rid of that atrocious "mouse pad" did permanent damage to the brand.
I have a 93 Land Cruiser, which is practically a Lexus, drivers with fancy cars give me the thumbs up when I cruise by.
Tell your wife "I got you this Coach purse instead of an Louis Vuitton one because they are basically the same." See how she reacts. 😂
That's when you get a new wife
basically any response other than "i have no idea why i would want either of those things" would have me finding a new wife, tbf.
I think what hurts Lexus is they don’t change for many years,,,,I get a new one every few years it’s almost like not getting a new car,,,because they don’t change,,,,even colors stay the same for years
I always like to see a good car repeated year after year. We used to have a 2008 Nissan Xterra and they made the mistake of discontinuing them. So when ours was totaled last year, the 350 Lexus 2008 was a wonderful surprise.
Like an “iPhone”. 😂
I personally find that the 2000s were Lexus, Acura and Infinitis best era. I’m more of a fan of Acura, so to me the 2004-2008 TL, MDX, RSX, TSX were all beautiful, but also sporty. I think that’s where Acura to me appeals more is that I want some extra luxury goods but I want the sporty feeling.
Lexus can do that but it’s hit and miss. I do disagree with the renewable sources being luxury. Volvo does a great job with that, and as younger and younger generations get to the position to afford vehicles like this, I think that’ll be the changing point. I mean, sure I’d love to have real leather but if there is something that’s synthetic
that’ll not crack and is more pet friendly / kid friendly, I’m totally okay with that.
Where I see Lexus going is leaning into the sporty driving and luxury experience. When I think Toyota, I think economical and efficient. Yes, they do have some nicer models but the badge does matter. Not saying it’s right, but it does. That’s why I think Mazda has a uphill battle because if you buy a CX-5, yes the top end trims can compete against an RDX, but the lower trims can’t and that’s what the majority of people see. Subaru doesn’t have that issue because they don’t try and appeal to the luxury markets, which has probably helped them a lot since they know their demographics so well.
Also, for future videos, I’d be curious to know your thoughts on Honda vs Acura. Personally I think it depends on the time period. Some times, models, Acura offers more but some times it doesn’t. To me, Acura’s dark period is 2014-2018 😂. I’d say Infiniti and Nissan, but let’s be real, Infiniti is struggling hard core so unless the deal is that much better, Nissan will win.
Just went from a rav4 hybrid to an NX hybrid and I appreciate the upgrades . It’s worth it if you keep it long term since the cost per year gets closer.
LEXUS PUT MORE WOOD DASHBOARD MORE TECHNOLOGY IN VEHICLES ES IS LS MORE HORSEPOWER
I think the issue you are highlighting is that 20 years ago Lexus was way higher quality than Toyota. Now the differences are far less dramatic. I still like Lexus over Toyota generally. I’ve owned most major Lexus models and the ES is better for most people than the LS and the RX is better for most people than the LX. The RX is the king of Lexus. Lexus revolves around the RX. They put in so much to make the RX excellent.
Yes it is. There is a different ride quality and the front seat comfort is phenomenal. In addition the dealership I deal with in Saskatoon (Ens Lexus) is outstanding. I have never had that type of service in any other dealership.
I pause for a moment each time I get into our 2018 RX and smell the leather, feel the most comfortable seat I've ever had, and carress that wooden/leather wheel. I love it. And the grill? Super easy to clean the bugs off those horizontal slats and I've always embraced the nod to their heritage that the shape embodies, no matter which design fills the opening.
The clanky 2GR-FKS engine? The goofy 8-speed gear hunting trans? Not so much. But, I'll pamper it, use Lexus for service (just had the 60k performed....gulp!), and drive it until they deny my license renewal! It has more than enough electronic helpers to make it safer to drive (Rear Cross-traffic Alert--tres manifique) and I need no more. And it still plays my CD collection!!
LS500 and LC500 with rx450hl 7 seater 3,5l hybrid best cars! Ls500 materials inside and sound system! Gotta feel it cant express in words
Congratulations on your new car. These are the very things I've been thinking of. You hit the nail on the head. Thanks, Kirk. Yes, I'd love you to discuss this with David. This is a very serious choice because I keep my cars beyond the warranty. My car was made in Japan and it's like saying goodbye to an old friend.
The dealership experience is worth the 10K difference. I have 2014 RX450h and I just got a fully loaded 2024 TX350. Tx 350 is a good car though. It is true that the price of the vehicle goes higher ; but the build quality goes lower. However, the Toyota dealers just make me feel greedy and filthy. Lexus dealers are way better than Toyota. If I have enough budget; I will buy what ever can make me happier as a long term user.
I completely agree. I have a new loaner and a cappuccino waiting, every time, even for oil changes! The price difference is worth it to me as well.
Here in Canada, the lowest NX 450h+ trim was only $1,500 more than a top trim Rav4 Prime. Once I sat in and drove the NX I was sold. Love my NX 450h+ and my mom liked it so much she bought one too.
I drive a Lexus because I wanted a V8 but otherwise a Toyota would likely be a better buy.
@LONGWALDO Hello If there smart ,Toyota and Lexus needs to bring back there V8 engines 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪💪
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