The Story of The Warcraft Universe - Origin [Lore]
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The World of Warcraft: Chronicle Volume 1 has revealed many of the secrets regarding the Warcraft universe. From it's creation, to the rise and fall of civilizations. Light and Void eternally bound in conflict. In this video we dive into the origin of the cosmos, I hope you'll enjoy!
"'I have seen worlds bathed in the Makers' flames. Their denizens fading without so much as a whimper. Entire planetary systems born and razed in the time that it takes your mortal hearts to beat once. Yet all throughout, my own heart, devoid of emotion... of empathy. I... have... felt... NOTHING! A million, million lives wasted. Had they all held within them your tenacity? Had they all loved life as you do? Perhaps it is your imperfection that which grants you free will. That allows you to persevere against all cosmically calculated odds. You prevailed where the Titans' own perfect creations have failed.'"
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Sargeras: Glad you could make it, Aman'thul.
Aman'thul: Watch your tone with me, boy. You may be the enforcer, but I'm still your superior as a titan.
Sargeras: As if I could forget. Listen, Aman'thul, there's something about the worlds you should know.
Sargeras: Oh no. It's too late. These worlds have all been corrupted. They may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they turn into tentacles.
Aman'thul: What?
Sargeras: This entire universe must be purged.
Aman'thul: How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way.
Sargeras: Damn it, Aman'thul. As your future champion I order you to purge this world.
Aman'thul: You are not my better yet, boy. Nor would I obey that command if you were!
Sargeras: Then I must consider this an act of work ignorance.
Aman'thul: Ignorance? Have you lost your mind, Sargeras?
Sargeras: Have I? Lord Aman'thul, by my right of badassery and raw power of my sword, I hereby relieve you from your command and suspend your titans from service.
Aggramar: Sargeras, you can't just...
Sargeras: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this universe, follow me. The rest of you... get out of my sight.
Aman'thul: You've just crossed a terrible pantheon, Sargeras
Sargeras: Aggramar?
Aggramar: I'm sorry, Sargeras. I can't watch you do this.
(From MMO Champion)
I love you for this
I loled so hard xDDDD
+cryptlord 99 I wish I could like this more than once - this is so perfect!
+cryptlord 99 This helps underline a big part of why I hate the new Origin lore.
Lol
Sargeras: "The entire Universe must be purged!"
Me: *thinking* Sargeras... Did you possess Arthas?
Thinh Vo Thanks man.
+Bernardo Apv So much this rofl.
+Thinh Vo HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Aggramar in Jaina's place is just....oh god...hahahahhahahahaha
The thing is, he actually did kind of.
No.... haven't you learned anything?
Algalon's speech still gives me the chill.
"he used his blade to split the world in two" ..... we're supposed to fight WHO AGAIN ??!!! LOL !!!!!
Would you like to fight him, or the void lords who cannot even manifest into the universe itself? I'd say fight sargeras. I mean, the void lords did scared the living shit out of sargeras. Nothing cannot stop the void, unless you have the last expansion of wow...then...maybe.
thunder wolf unless Azeroth manifests as a super godlike titan the likes of which have never been seen before. we are fucked. the pillars only work to shut off the rift ot the black city. we are only mortals we cannot kill titans only a titan can kill a titan.
Hence Wrathion's "We must rebuild the final Titan!"
We need to wake up Azeroth or whatever it is going to be called.
One punch man ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
No...just...no! I don't want to talk about one punch man in a wow conversation. That guy is too overrated and op for us to even care. He's as stupidly strong as superman due to sias fanbase. if the fanbase wants him to destroy a galactic cluster destroying GOD, then the OPs will. He's too op to the point as to where i'm like "Do I even want him anymore"?
So... Sargeras solution to save a planet already infested was.... purge.
Sargeras: "This entire planet must be purged"
Titan Sargeras everybody, pulling an Arthas before there was an Arthas.
+Thinh Vo jsut when i though i made an original joke........ shame on me.
Den H. I actually was planning to make a similar comment to this whenever +Nobbel87 released this video but I found out that my joke is also unoriginal. Such a shame.
It's crazy I never thought of that, it's like they copied the story directly
Am I the only one who thinks sargeras's backstory is more sympathetic than arthas's
@@gautamvaze1101 sergaras is a concept derived from original d&d lore relating to the forgotten realms
So Sargeras, to try and protect the universe against the void lords which in my eyes is the Naaru's goal, he aims to purge the life of the universe to prevent the darkness from taking over.
So wheres the join team burning legion button?
+Brady™ He aims to purge the universe itself. To reset everything to the state it was before the explosion that created it.
agreed
+Brady™ In this new lore Sargeras creates the Burning Legion to destroy all of creation so that the Void-Lords can't consume and corrupt it, giving the universe a chance to start fresh. Before Sargeras hits the panic button demons are mostly unorganized, doing their own thing and didn't have a single unified force.
+Brady™ The part with him thinking the natural state of the Universe being chaos is probably still true. As seen with Xhul'horac, the collision of fel and void magic just causes more chaos. Perhaps he believes that turning the Universe into a fel-infused chaos will make the Void Lord unable to take over everything.
+Brady™ Again... a Blizzard Character does something bad with the intention of doing better. ^^
So Sargeras is the Arthas of the titans?
ya
bryan bussing
Good way to think about it!
Also, super awesome that Blizzard managed to bring back the Arthas story. It's such a great story.
I mean, the Arthas story was pretty much a copy of this story. This story came before.
Ozisus Gerophius Manabuzz Warpwrench Or ILLIDIAN or Guldan Azeroth
I really love the changes made to Titan lore in the chronicles as well as the kickass artwork.
Plot twist: Sargeras actually is the dark titan. He himself is basically doing what the dark titan was said to do because the void lords have corrupted his mind with fear. The people of azeroth manage to cleanse the titan soul in azeroth of the void lords corruption without killing the world soul, most likely using the Naaru, and it becomes the last titan and we use it to fight Sargeras.
+moyga boy you better start the fanfiction fast
Cleansing the universe of all life is not the goal of the void lords. They want to control all life.
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Actually they do want that and their end goal is to kill everything including themselves.
How do you feel this has aged, given the upcoming Worldsoul Saga?
When its time to sleep and damn Nobbel uploads this! Thank you though ill wath your videos anytime anyplace
I know, right... 1AM here, but can't stop watching! *_*
Same here ! ^^
watch it while having sex with an elephant on a public plane. any time any place ;)
I think anyone else who's ground out the Dalaran Fountain coin achievements can agree that Rhonin's speech loses some of its beauty when you hear it every 10 minutes
Sargeras and Arthas have some stuff in common. Both on a mission to save life, encounter a very corrupted place, purge it, loosing all their freinds, becoming corrupt itself...
Just saying
conspiracy theories inc!
www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1964268-Sargeras-and-Arthas-Chronicles-Spoilers
+klaus treubrodt I don't think sargeras is corrupt. Not from the way im interpreting the story. If the void lords gained control of the universe they would turn it into a literal christian style hell. Isn't death better than that? Sargeras is trying to save the naive inabetents from a fate far worse than death by killing them first. Its a mercy killing.
Well, the Titans believe the Azeroth Titan will be enough to help them beat back the Void Lords. So I would still say Sargeras is corrupted.
Resention They dont know anything about the void lords. Sargeras has met them and interacted with them. He is the only one who witnessed their power he is the only one who comprehends their power. Think about how powerful a titan is. He is literally a planet reformed into a humanoid. A freaking planet with a sword. And void lords made one of those dudes shit his pants. Stuffy old men in ivory towers dont know anything about what they are going up against. If they did maybe they would agree with sargeras.
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I definitely love this version of Sargeras's reasoning of wanting to destroy Azeroth. In a sense, he is a bit like Illidan : a misunderstood hero which wants the best for his people but got rejected from them because "the end justifies any means".
You should get a cut from blizz, you just sold a book.
I just started playing Warcraft and find the story so jumbled and confusing. Hoping I can watch as many videos about the lore as I can do I can understand the story and universe as I know it’s one of a kind. 😉
Your origin videos like this always care a tone of awe and wonder. It's a testament to your unique style and I absolutely love it. A great piece and a welcome addition to your fantastic collection. Well done, Sir. Well done.
If you miss ten seconds you have to rewind
Bro same
So, Sargeras is actually a good guy, fighting the Void even now and we mere mortals just happen to be imperfect creation susceptible to corruption by those Void lords, hence we must be purged! Knowing this, I can't judge Sargeras for his doings, but we gotta fight for our own lives, that's just how it works :)
he's basically kerrigan
Read or listen to baldurs gate lore. Blizz basically copied the lot
@@KatFisch There's some similarities, but I'm not sure it was directly copied. In Warcraft the demons were fought by the super-powerful Titan Sargeras, who is turned towards 'evil' plans either by the endless evil of the demons (earlier lore) or by the plans of the void lords (new lore), and takes over leadership of a bunch of demons as the Burning Legion. In Forgotten Realms, the demons were fought by many angels rather than a single super-powerful deity, and the angels became corrupted by the conflict and collectively became the devils/baatezu (lawful evil alignment), yet still at war with the demons/tanaari (chaotic evil); or at least that's one of several available sets of lore. The lore of both worlds were influenced by Judeo-Christian, Greek, Norse, Zoroastrian etc. mythology as well as more recent influences such as Tolkien, Lovecraft (esp. the Old Gods of Warcraft) and, notably in this case, apparently Nietszche: "Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster. When you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Seems just as likely that the Blizzard team came up with some similar ideas based on those shared earlier influences as that they were intimately familiar with D&D lore and simply copied it.
Thanks for the opportunity to do some research on that :)
Edit: Just read a few comments further down, the similarities between Sargeras fighting then taking over the demon hordes (in order to destroy all life) with Arthas fighting then taking over the scourge (albeit after purging Stratholme); the repetition makes the Nietszche theme seem a more likely inspiration than D&D, though arguably its meaning is blunted somewhat in Arthas' case.
He is an anti-hero. His goals are, to himself, noble and just. Much like Thanos, he is trying to save the universe in ways that mortals can't comprehend and are too afraid to accept anyways
@@mutolover3851 both are not Anti heroes though just because a villian beöieves in his cause as just does that not make them heroes/antiheroes both are still villians though Thanos did except that fact.
Also while both do believe in their cause that does not make them right.
Heck in the case of Sagaras he is proven wrong by the other Titans but still clings to his way.
Sageras is a full blown villian because he doesn't even entertain the option that there are other ways but stubornly follows his first idea while accepting to use of questionable help and force to archieve his goal
I like that, in learning about the plan to corrupt titans, Sargeras pretty much became the corrupted being the void lords were after. Fits in very well with the common Warcraft themes of leaders who go to great extremes to protect their ideals, eventually falling into madness and losing sight of their original goal (the original Orcs, Arthas, Garrosh, etc).
Nope. Sargeras isn't corrupted, he's just lost all hope and wants to erase all life in the universe so it can't be corrupted, the void lords true motive appear, at this time, to be killing off the Pantheon which is something Sargeras isn't doing.
How do we know the demon Sargeras interrogated wasn't lying, knowing that it would drive him down this path of fear? Deception is kind of their thing after all. Either way, even if he isn't literally a world soul corrupted by the void, he's definitely a titan turned from his original purpose toward one of total annihilation, in other words, a corrupted titan.
+Mcmos9000 that's possible, but that still doesn't make him corrupt. In his eyes what the demon said is true, he's scared and he is doing what he is doing to stop the void lord's plans
The doomguard says they were "the titan's hounds," not "the titans' hounds." Singular, not plural. It means they were enslaved by Sargeras himself, so other members of the Pantheon were probably not aware of their existence. Except maybe Aggramar of course. So the quest doesn't contradict Chronicle.
touch grass
Argalon final Speech still the best Boss Speech, i missed him :(
Dr Boom well duh, what i mean is, he didn't do anything else except there
Dr Boom Well, considering his job is defending that place, maybe he can tell us more Lore about the past
Dr Boom and THAT exactly what i want to know, you know that "other stuff" is :)
I nearly facepalmed when that Rhonin speech started
CITIZENS OF DALERON
+Lone CITIZENS OF RALDARON
George George why lmao
I wasn’t expecting a full detailed storyline, let aside SUBTITLES?! Thank you!
I don't plan on having the book so I enjoy your wow video lore very much. It's kinda like crack, once you start watching you don't wanna stop.
You can read the first fourth of the book as a sample from the google play store.
So if Wrathion told us we need to rebuild the final titan, and titans come from planets, Azeroth is more or less confirmed to be the final planet standing against the Legion and the Void Lords. We better get our shit together O.o
+Holly Hill It might be possible that Azeroth's titan could be the goddess Elune.
+Emersed Rhyme true that would be so interesting
+Holly Hill The Titans recognized that Azeroth was a powerful, powerful nascent titan. Even with the old god's corruption, it held out and did not bend to the Void. I think the Lifebinder said that if Azeroth wakes up, then he/she would be as powerful (if not, even more) as Sargeras, and would be a valuable ally. But now we know that the Titans are pretty much gone. So all we have is Azeroth really. Our only hope is the world we call home.
But the question is: when a titan is born (or awakened), does it destroy it's host planet, considering it's it's soul?
***** So given the description of other titans, I think the planet itself becomes the titan. So when Azeroth awakes, we'll all be living on a gigantic living being. Which honestly sounds bloody amazing.
You are a superb storyteller, dude! Merci mille fois!
I'm already in love with the complex backstory to the WarCraft franchise. Plus this explains a lot.
Of all the world's mythologies, I've just realised that the giants of old Chinese mythology most closely resemble WarCraft's Titans and titan-forged in stature and function.
examples:
- Pangu was a planet-sized giant responsible for creating this world. (and by "planet-sized" I mean the ancient texts really implied him to be about 15000 km tall when full-grown. For comparison the diameter of the Earth is about 12000km. )
- Juling (literally "giant spirit") was a giant sent by Heaven to split a mountain so that it would not obstruct the flow of the Yellow River.
- Another giant couple (each more than 400km tall) was sent to clear some more rivers, but they got lazy so Heaven punished them to stand naked until the Yellow River becomes clear.
- The Thunder God was also a giant whose footprint caused a woman to become pregnant after she stepped into it (don't ask me how that works, haha) and later give birth to two important demigods.
Those were the giant gods, responsible for shaping the world.
Then there were a few other races of giants, for example:
- in the Eastern Sea there was an island kingdom, Longbo, inhabited by giants, so tall that they could walk across a sea. One day one of them went fishing and ended up killing a few giant turtles responsible for carrying a few floating (and inhabited) islands, causing some of these islands to drift off, crash or sink. As punishment, Heaven drastically reduced the Longbo giants' territory and also shrank their bodies (to about 30 metres tall, still giant compared to humans).
- Wanqu, another kingdom of giants (each about 23 metres tall) was said to have advanced technology (including flying submarines) and to have witnessed the creation and prehistory of the world. (this is a possible case of Ancient Astronauts)
Although these giants were not explicitly described as shaping or protecting the world, the legends give the impression that they were present in the world for a purpose.
Of course, besides the above, there were other legends about giants of even less cosmic significance, some benevolent, some savage.
(Some were clearly just human tribes of slightly extraordinary stature.)
Great as alwayas nobbel! Thank you for making this 👍
I'm glad that even Sargeras has a little trace of goodness in his heart. Perhaps one day Sargeras will reunite to the Pantheon to fight the void lords
+Kenneth Ultimate Spoilers:
Reunite the dead, sure :)
Yeah, he kinda killed the Pantheon...
No.. they just dont interfere for the same reason they disagreed that he should have not killed the titan being corrupted to save it. The are patient in an extremely hard way to grasp. He is no threat to them other then their choice to seed order.
He did after all kill a fellow titan... They were probably right and combined could have saved it. The void is not currently that strong. But he is seeing the bigger picture so thats his crutch.
If they could not have saved it then obviously they could have then decided what was the right coarse.
And that is where his pointless act is made more invalid; there could be numerous unknown titans out there (and in fact are) already being corrupted. It was in fact pointless to kill it.
Doing such probably was enough to push him off his balance. So hes deadlocked into follow through as some way of justifying what he had done.
They wont harm other titans. In fact killing them would be a great advantage to the void; so he wouldn't.
So if anything yeah we are obviously headed towards a Sargeras redemption not just illidan.
Perhaps the Titans get hit and wake up to the real threat themselves.
Which means the Old Gods arc is finally getting answered.
Being that the void is finally coming or something.
He will understand basically what Algalon came to understand through the people of Azeroth.
With that said people keep saying he doesn't just slice Az in half because it has a rare kind of titan soul inside it. That doesn't make sense; knowing the Voids power he would def destroy it then.
However unless he has some new idea of altering it himself, which is why he does not destroy Az either.
ID even think that arc is possible too. Which probably means no redemption.
Like the first titan he starts to go out and wake/train his own twisted Titans.
Sargeras is not as powerful as he was when he destroyed his first world. Because of his infusion with the fel and the number of bodies he has had, his power is steadily decreasing. With every new avatar that he needs to house his titanic essence he loses power.
Also, the Pantheon is technically not dead. If you read the chronicles it says that when they were destroyed by Sargeras their bodies and essences were ripped into millions of pieces and lost to the universe. They are alive, just in millions of pieces.
Norggamon used his powers to save their souls from sargeras so they arent dead
In legion probably we're going to save their souls
This is THE BEST Warcraft origin story I've found.
I recently started playing WoW and really wanted to know more about the lore, i saw this 40 min video and tought...ohh this will be easy to catch up! Untill i saw those 200 more video's.... . Now i listen to them every time i'm sitting on my train to work. XD GREAT JOB!
we killed arthas... and he only purged stratholme... just imagine what will do with sargeras and his universal purge
www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1964268-Sargeras-and-Arthas-Chronicles-Spoilers
lol thats amazing
+Vartence to be fair, he filled most of northrend and lordaeron with undead, and at the start of his expansion assaulted major cities with the aim to take them as well. he was a global threat by the time we set sail for northrend.
well.. we had a massive demon invasion when bc started... and sargeras has destroyed planets... and everything that has happened to us (beside the old golds) has the legion signature on it.. even the plague and the lich king xd
Vartence i didn't mean to imply that arthas was anywhere near as bad as sargeras, only that he had done more to piss people off than just cull stratholme. sargeras and the legion are a cosmic level threat.
Nobbel that was great video #loreorgasm but Could you please do video about magic ? it should be divine and arcane magic , right ? i saw some videos but they were so short and i still dont understad it and i bet many ppl neither :D so pleease
this guy better get paid a hefty sum by blizz for what he does. Seriously this lore and how it is communicated is SO good.
you did a really good job with summing up this part of the chronicle for people who are not fond of reading^^
*thumbsup*
Demons come back when die. We players come back when we die. Then, we are DREADLORDS!!!???
well canonically the player character doesn't actually get killed (we only come back to life due to gameplay-story segregation)
alll demons arent dreadlords
FLAAAMMMEE!!! DEEAATHHHHH!!!! DESSSSTTTTRRRUCTIONNN!!!!
i want to see more of this
Nobbel played that "raise your eyes and observe" speech just to mess with anyone who has been to Dalaran in the last 2 years
I still remember walking into Algalons room. one of the best moments ive had with a guild. such an amazing story.
So alright.+
Basically this means The Old Gods are the equivalent of the Great Old Ones while the Void Lords are Outer Gods
+heartlessmushroom exactly my thoughts. but if the difference in power level between the old gods and the void lords is the same as the difference between the great old ones and the outer gods, then sargeras and azeroth have no hope (or a least shouldn't have any hope) to win. then again, this isn't some lovecraft story, so evil is not so sure to triumph.
@@fulviorsc
Azeroth is the only hope to fight the Void Lords. Out of all the Titans it's the strongest.
@@Xo-3130 but will he/she be alright after Sargeras stabbed him/her with his sword?
So Sargeras is an Arthas?
+Hanna-Justina Wallia Rosalind Sieglinde Marseille nono sargeras is way stronger then arthas ... sargeras is an corrupted titan ... (more or less) while arthas is a a human being corrupted by the lich king and he is created by the burning legion wich is lead by sargeras ...
anrexfk It is more about similarities in the story. You can easily see paralels with Sargeras killing the Titan and Arthas purging Stratholme, both acts in the name of what they think is right but their former friends are disgusted by and which lead them down a path that makes them the villain. Both of them were even convinced to their respective acts by dreadlords.
www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1964268-Sargeras-and-Arthas-Chronicles-Spoilers
Thinh Vo I knew I couldn't be the only one who noticed. I am interested to say where they'll go with this.
+Hanna-Justina Wallia Rosalind Sieglinde Marseille Hey, Sargeras resents that. He was purging things for the greater good *before* it was cool
My dad came home from work one today (he works at blizzard) with this book and , well I kinda ran to his bag without him noticing and stole the book from him. So excited to read it!
Great video! You are the best "lore keeper" on RUclips :)
"AmanFOOL"
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The void lord is confirmed spaghetti monster (reference to his last video).
+Thinh Vo they should stop fucking up makro lore, instead focus on creating new storyes, warcraft was better with some mystery, now we have nonsesical shit that is vague as fuck
+Re Né Without having a story then what is the point in being immersed in an open world?
You said mystery is good but you complain about stories being vague which contradicts itself.
Also I assure you that vanilla and BC lore was more vague.
8:05 really cool picture that visualizes all the forces in the World of Warcraft lore. I like it
+Vladomin
Ikr? I really wish they had that as a poster or something.
@Nobbel can you link the source of that image please? :)!
First vid i watched from you, really good and interesting stuff, especially for a person who always clicked accept to quests without reading it first x) Now, if only we had quest VO =p
I like the new version of the "corruption" of Sargaras because I'm tired of Blizzard pulling a "x is evil because they're just insane" bull crap storyline. Deathwing? Just insane. Kael'thas? Just insane. Illidan? Just insane. Probably others that I could list. Regardless of whether it's feasible or not, I'm tired of the same crappy excuse of making characters bad guys. It's nice to see a major villain finally doing something of his own agenda and volition rather than being a servant of some other force.
Deathwing, Kael'thas, and Illidan all had their reasons of going insane though. I can't recall what though
I don't know. Whatever the reason, it just feels rushed and weird to me. The last words out of Kael'thas' mouth when you kill him in TK were "For Quel'thalas," then suddenly the second you turn in his verdant sphere he's talking about how it was all a ploy for a new master, then in MGT, as someone else put it, he spends his last moments raving about Kil'Jaedan. No transition or explanation. I could consider that good lore when I was 9 but not now :P
I get Deathwing because being corrupted by the old gods is kind of his thing. I guess I just don't like the explanation for irrational planning (fanmade or canon) to be because "He's crazy." Is it hard to have an insane villain that's still cold and rational and calculating?
For Illidan, I can't make judgements because he's never been my favorite enough for me to analyze so much
Deathwing: old gods. Kael: grief and pain because of what the Lich King did to his people. Illidan: anger at his people, and being trapped on another world for 10,000 years.
So Kael'thas joins the legion, his sworn enemies and the enemies of his people, just because Illidan went insane? The blood elves would have fought to the last man against something like this, it makes no sense at all. Same with Illidan (pre WoW insanity which did make some sense).
Of the ones you listed, the only one that is actually insane is Deathwing. Kael'Thalas was not insane, he was desperate. Illidan is not insane, everything he has done has been calculated to the next like 50 steps.
Plot twist: that was the void lords plan all along, sargeras is a dark titan
Adam Hodroj and jaina is an abossador of the dreadlords.
The mAN not actually
He was corrupted by fell energy not void energy so the voidlorda cant controll or manipulate him for their will
Nobbel, thanks for everything you did for us Lorewalkers o/
i just love nobbels way of animate pictures. infected planet - putting a c´thun on it. heavily infected planet - putting 4 c´thuns on it
so do the ends justify the means?
nope
Nobbel it has occurred to me.
What if Sargeras has created his own Titans?
+Salamander Senel were all fucked
+Salamander Senel how the fuck would he do that
+The Great Ammuraf He wouldnt be able to.
Imma that out We have no idea how it is that the Titans nurture and grow new Titans from the hearts of worlds. It is absolutely possibly that Sargeras has done just that and created his own brood of corrupted Titans.
Salamander Senel He literally explained it in the video. A few amount of worlds already have ''titan souls'' in them and the old gods are corrupting planets to find titan souls and corrupt them before they are born. Sargeras doesnt have the means to do so. He could only destroy them to prevent the other titans to gain a new ally,
The War within is wrapping back around to this HARD
Hey Nobbel I rly liked this video man, as someone that doesn't have the time to read, you making a video with the most important moments is so helpful and awesome, I also like the version of the origin of the universe and the titans I like that they didn't made Sargeras corrupted but gave him his own reasoning and point of view about things, and some people could consider it as wrong but others as right, they made this moment of the story fantastic. As for what to make next, I suggest you continue timelane wise from the book, maybe more to sargeras as how to continued.
8:50 Hilarious, C'thuns everywhere! The planet on the right even has 2 of them!
Wait does that make Sargeras a hero or a villain...
He's still a villain. His motives are to stop an even bigger evil from ruling the world, true. But he still wants to kill everything. And he hasn't considered that: "Maybe there's another way."
+William Bibens it makes him Arthas
+William Bibens Neither. There's no way of telling if his way is right of wrong. I believe that's the whole point.
I want to play as the burning legion
Damn Nobbel...your pronunciation is actually on point when you try, it gets a bit worse when you're rushing but so do we all xD just found you and im going through all your vids, loving it!
The first chapter of the playlist. Here we go!
Void lord is Nobbels minion does that mean Nobbel is stronger than a void lord
OR that it's a WEAKENED void lord. a human could also conquer a hill ettin with no arms or legs =)
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"i have felt nothing!" he said angrily
#blizzardwriting
He’s saying he had felt nothing in the past and now he’s angry at himself and frustrated that he hadn’t even thought of the weight of his actions.
You really nailed the Green fire questline part! :P
"until he found how dark the great dark can be..." and the Ikea advert - just epic :P
I wish there was someone on RUclips that could explain the lore without talking like they grew up in the world there self it kills me
What about Xel'naga?
+Acherus That's Starcraft.
But they are good
No. Only one Xel'naga was twisted, rest of them were good
+Acherus do you really imagine how would a talk between Tyrande and Jim Raynor look like? :D
Yeah ;D
god this new lore is so fascinating, I'm loving it.
Interesting retcon to Sargeras and his motives for creating the Legion and possible the obsession with continuously trying to invade Azeroth.
If you haven't read it, the book explains his obsession, just hang tight if nobbel explains it!
hi not firts
Dawg i love listening to your lores, Great Job On the Voice Change Tone To Fit the lore speech, (Sorry I suck at English xD)
Hey Nobbel. I was wondering about if you could maybe make a lore video concerning all the content from Ulduar, because we mostly just scratch the surface when it comes to Ulduar, in some of your lore videos. So i think it would be awesome, if you could put things together in a single video concerning Ulduar and the titan keepers, and how they got corrupted (Of course by Yogg'saron i believe, but most of the titan keepers are not under the "curse of flesh", as far as i know / can guess).
Besides this, your doing a wonderful work, and i always love to watch your videos (mostly lores) - It's almost became a daily routine to watch your lore videos every monday ;) :)
Keep up the good work and hope you'll take this into consideration!
just came back to recap as it has been a few years since I left WoW and man I still need to find the books
Do a chronicles episode every other week nobbel, then do other stuff every other weeks, like Illidan novel stuff.
Nice job as always!
I like this new canon; it makes Sargeras somewhat sympathetic in a way. He's not just "kill all live just cuz" anymore and has actual motivation. Existence is just a giant tug-of-war between the Titans, Old Gods, and The Burning Legion, with the Heroes of Azeroth caught in the middle.
+Chris Parris From what i remember before it seemed more like "Why continue to bring order when there is nothing but chaos?" Other Titans- "i dunno" Sargeras- "Fuck this im out" and decides to bring chaos instead XD.
Definitely yor fav video of mine thus far and that is saying A LOT!!!
Ty for all your work Nobbel :)
This serie is going to be best of your channel Nobbel. Please keep it up !! The Chronicle is so good yet so hard to understand because of language problems. So If you add more video explanation like this one but more, would be awesome for better understand. Thank you for hardwork Nobbel love you
So much fun listening to his videos while I play WoW
Thank you very much sharing the Stories. Makes the Games even more interesting.
Can't wait for the next one. great vid buddy
Go to the google play store book section and read the sample for this book. It takes you all the way up past the black empire, the elemental wars, the creation of the old gods prisons, and how the titan keepers helped protect the world-soul within Azeroth (who is the strongest the pantheon has ever seen, strong enough to destroy the void lords forever). Also, the actual void lords are unable to become physically manifest in the universe, so the in-game ones mentioned at the end of the video arent the real ones we learn about
I am still reading it, on page like 100 or somfin' because of how slow I read (Started reading a few weeks back). and i try not to but my head keeps making me read it in your voice.
I've read Chronicles but this was very well done.
Again an incredible video. Thanks a lot Nobbel!
...And please continue! ^^
that last Algalon speech gave me goosbumps :o Nerev appreciated it as such before....
love the video, just please keep following the timeline to make it easy to understand as you've been doing so far. thumbs up
Fantastic video, can't wait til your next one comes out ! Keep up the awesome work.
Perhaps the doomguards were originally the titan's creation or their friendly followers like the constellars, but Sargeras "freed" them and turn them into demons with fel energies after ... his second return to the Pantheon.
Hey Nobbel ! That was truly interesting ! Just looked at your older vids' and you made some huge progress since then !
Keep up the good work !
Not that this would be a good or bad idea, but I can imagine Bllizzard doing a Warcraft spin-off in which you play as Sargeras, pre-corruption, and you go around cleansing demons, fighting powerful Void Lords and Old Gods, etc. The gameplay could borrow heavily from God of War, and the story could focus upon the events covered in the Chronicle book, all the way up to his final descent into madness and Ascension to leadership of the Burning Legion. Such a game would flesh out the character of Sargeras for the fan base, as well as do some major world-building.
I've blown through Chronicles way too fast. I love having a written canon timeline that explains all this extra stuff, most of which I know great bits and pieces about already.
I have been waiting for this so long thanks!!
Not only Sargeras and Arthas have things in common. Odyn's character arch is similar too. He disagreed with his peers in their attempt to protect and order so he decided to exile himself, raise the Halls of Valor and create his own army to do what in his eyes was the only option for real salvation
Great video! Recently directed a friend of mine to your channel as well to check out some lore, since he didn't quite get what was happening in the Warcraft movie trailers so I told him lots and directed him here for more.
As for the Chronicle book; Im thinking of getting that. I kinda love the stories Azeroth has to offer.
Great as always, Nobbel! {Voice of a god} I hope you'll do either every single artifact weapon lore in this format ( I know it will take time :D ) or do a full in-depth story of Deathwing or Grommash :) Thanks for all the great hours!
I think Dimensius could actually be a Void Lord, although perhaps not an all-powerful one. The way they've retconned the Void and the dialogue and story of a boss like Xhul'Horac seems to prove that Void-creatures manifesting in the real world need to be fed power in the form of magic or dark energies *constantly* in order to sustain themselves. Worse still, the more powerful the being is, the more energy it needs. Without that constant flow of energy, greater beings of the Void seem to simply fade out of existence, possibly dissipating into their core component, raw dark energy, or being pulled back into the void. This explain why Dimensius would make one of those Mana Forges his home after all.
He could be a legit Void Lord that is not at his full potential because of a lack of sustenance, or he could be a lesser Void-being that grew immensely powerful through consumption of energy.
I personally think the Void Lord's referred to as the masters of the Void dimension might be shapeless creatures that don't exist in the same way that we would expect them to. That is why they need to use the Old Gods as weapons - They can't directly interfere in the physical universe by themselves, instead using these massive, Lovecraft-inspired parasites to broadcast their presence and spread their influence in reality. Going off the Lovecraft theme, it would make sense for the masters of the Old Gods (The Outer Gods, if you will) to be beings that exist more as a concept than as living things. We already know that Old Gods exhibit this trait in that they can't really die as much as they aren't truly alive. Y'Shaarj was physically dead, yet still very much alive, etc.
Also, there might not be any distinction between Void Lords and lesser Void-beings. Lesser Void beings might be like appendages of the Void Lords, who act like the hearts and brains of Void energy in general.
So Dimensius could be a Void creature either important enough to have a Void Lord talking though it directly, or it has grown strong enough to develop a consciousness of its own. Either way, I like this approach, mostly because I don't like the idea that there could be Void beings acting independently of the Void Lords themselves.
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Well, we know that there are various Naaru, some more and some less powerful than others. There is no reason for us to assume that a Void Lord is not, in essence, the same as any other void creature, just much more powerful.
So here's a crazy theory of mine: The spirit of Eonar is actually *drumroll* Elune. Eonar the titan of life and nature, who blessed the Titan-forged Freya with her powers as well as Alextraza through Freya. If Amun'thul's soul crashed into Ra then perhaps the Spirit of Eonar somehow found it's way to Azeroth as well? Considering the new lore it was Freya blessed by Eonar who created life AND the "Wild Gods" of nature (for example Goldrinn) who were her companions while she traveled Azeroth creating life.
+Xxonfire1212xX I think it would make more sense for Elune to be a titan like Aman'thul who awoke by herself and then instead of searching for other titans went on an adventure of her own ultimately finding Azeroth.
The night elves and the tauren (two races she is most often tied to + directly taught and influenced) both value life but they value balance much more, think of the nelf starting area quest to kill nightsabers in order to keep their population in check - the eonar that (according to the video) was especially affected by the death of the slumbering titan I assume would want all life protected with as little loss as possible IE she would have them find ways around killing at all or make it so they didn't have to.
Also the tauren are more about the elements and balance with them rather than specifically life which isn't something I think the pantheon would be into considering their treatment of the elemental lords and how they nuked them away on planets they seeded to test for sleeping titans.
the void can corrupt full grown titans, unless you would say sargeras wasnt corrupted. I donno food for thought. I love your videos Nobbel
One complaint I had with the lore retcon is how much they explained about the Old Gods. They used to be the chaotic counterpart to the Titans. The whole mystery on their motives and origins is gone now. They've basically been downgraded to servants.
I feel like part of the reason they made this retcon is so once we get rid of Sargeras and The Old Gods in future expansions, we'll have another big bad to go after.
To everyone complimenting Nobbel's storytelling, he is reading all of this straight out of the book. This is not his own storytelling it is Blizzard's. All he does is add some pictures.
The road to hell is lined with good intentions
So it looks like Sargeras tried to save the universe by destroying it, enabling it to start over
I like that Sargeras' motives are explained in Chronicles. Before, he was just a bad guy who thought the Pantheon's work was futile, and sought to undo it, but now he seems like a far more complex character. He realises the threat of the Void Lords and is willing to do anything to stop them.
This also raises further questions about the Legion. Is he simply using them as a tool to destroy worlds? Or do they know Sargeras' reasons for this destruction, and see themselves as righteous crusaders? However, considering we know the Nathrezim are definitely evil, and that they're part of the Legion, it's not likely the rest of the Legion sees the bigger picture.
When Velen talks about Sargeras' "promises of power" to Archimonde and Kil'Jaedan, what if Sargeras actually told them about the threat of the Void Lords? (This is a bit of a stretch, since it would mean Archie and KJ have more foresight than a goddamn prophet).
AND since the Pantheon heard Sargeras' suggestion for dealing with the Void Lords but still disagree, do they still think that's what he believes now? Or do they think he's simply gone mad by the influence of the Nathrezim? (It would explain why WE thought that was the case until now, since we're their creations)
I'd be open to the possibility that while Sargeras IS our enemy, he's not at all evil, and is trying to do whatever it takes to keep the universe from falling into chaos.
+Liam Dalton Lol, no. It is absolutely lame and cheap. They are just copy pasting arthas story in sargeras and butchered the old gods by introducing those silly "Void Lords" (jesus they didn't even try to think of a different name than the warlock pets), who at no point seemed that menacing. He doesn't look anywhere complex at all, just lame and ridiciculous.
His previous motivation was just fine, wanting to undo the work because he finds irder futile is marginally more original than arthas motivations 2.0