$ 22 mil Porsche 917 K racing at Nürburgring 2017 (revving & flames)
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2017
- Engine: 912.10 180° V12 / 4907 cc / 299.4 cu in
Power: 600 bhp / 448 KW @ 8300 rpm
Torque: 563 Nm / 415 ft lbs @ 6400 rpm
Weight: 800 kg / 1,764 lbs
Top Speed: 354 km/h / 220 mph
Event: Oldtimer GP
Race Series:FIA Masters Sportscar championship
Track: Nürburgring
Date: 2017-08-13
Driver: Claudio Roddaro (FRA)
Chassis 917-037
[quote: www.ultimatecarpage.com]Built in 1970 as a spare chassis and reportedly entered for the 1970 Le Mans by Gulf Racing, this car was ultimately not used in period events. Retained by Porsche, the frame was sold to Baur in 1978. Following a brief spell in Switzerland during the early 2000s, it was then acquired by American Carl Thompson. He had the car built to full running order by specialists Gunnar Racing. In addition to the original and unmolested frame, the completed car features around 95% original components. In 2004, chassis 917-037 was sold to Freisinger Motorsport, who entered the car in the 2006 Le Mans Classic for Stephane Ortelli. The car then returned to the United States where it was repainted in Martini colours and campaigned at select events. Early in 2017, it was brought back to Europe once more and joined a Monaco-based Porsche collection. [/quote)
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Before more people ask, here's a short explanation about the engine.
The 917K has a 180° V12, which is often called flat-12
Some people think however that a "flat engine" is the same as a "boxer engine" That is incorrect..
The way the pistons move is different for each configuration. In a "V" engine the pistons for 1 bank move in the same direction.
In a boxer engine the pistons move towards eachother and then away from eachother. Imagine 2 Boxers hitting eachothers fist. Coming towards eachother.
According to someone from the Porsche museum (Some people will know him, Benjamin from the JP Performance video's) it is a 180° V12.
Even the info next to the 917 cars in the museum says this. I've seen it myself many times.
Coolest race cars ever made. The golden era of racing.
Have you ever seen one up close or sat in one? You'd be surprised
The way the bodywork in the rear goes up and straight back leaving those beefy rear tires exposed is just pure fucking sickness!!!! An era of Motorsport never to be seen again.
could not agree more.
All the good things happened before we were born.
Preach
I'm amazed by the number of people walking along, totally oblivious to what just past them
Like the guy with the gas can
Right? How are you at a race track and know nothing about this car?
@MegaJohnhammond . . . I see that at motorsports events: race attendees are wandering around while the race is underway; where I don't see them focusing any attention on the race course where the action is going-on at. Makes me wonder why they went to the trouble to attend the race in the first place.
@@bloqk16 I’ve seen that at Brands Hatch, many are tourists and are trying to see as much of the famous site itself. There are many race categories on race day nobody is going to sit through every single race, it’s heavy going. So they wander about in the paddock, the many souvenir shops, tuck shops, restaurant/cafe/bars taking pics of expensive sports cars in the car parks. Some are hoping to get autographs of famous drivers they recognise, there’s a lot going on other than cars racing, especially when families are there with restless kids wanting to emulate their heroes in the nearby go kart track.
@@sgtpepper6379They’re there to network they can careless about the cars important people and rich people attend these events
God.I remember those 917s from when i was a kid.NOTHING HAD A CHANCE against them.What a machine.A piece of my youth right there.
now it cost more than a brand new Formula 1 car
She is a beauty and she has a lovely singing voice D:
Great racing machine of all time
Kronocide This is a shared account and I have some family who aren't native English speakers, that's life. Save your shitty reply next time kiddo. You also wrote out something that wasn't even commented in the first place. Great job. Stfu
This is the reason I stopped watching NASCAR. These 917 K are an absolute BEAST. Absolute pure racing
This is one good reason to be a very wealthy person. All I would need is two cars. This one and one to take me to the track to drive it.
Steve A. Totally agree, but there is a plate (from Monaco), so you can take this on the track and go back home after that !
go get it boy ;) you can!
Stefan 929 You need a transporter to get it to the track too,and mechanics,several experienced mechanics.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Fred Barendse absolutely false. the 917 never killed someone, but the 312/512 ..
Lol ya don't say
1971, Mulsane straight, 240 MPH, 3 in the morning, surrounded by aluminum chassis/fuel tanks and gasoline............FFS that must have been heaven!
Mulsanne was the bend, the straight was the Hunaudieres. All the rest you wrote is great. Porsche 917, Ferrari 312 PB and Matra Simca MS670 are the best racing cars of all time.
I think the drivers would have backed off if they had a speedometer. I remember a story about a driver asking how fast it was. the engineer asked what the revs were, got out his SLIDE RULE and told the driver he didn't want to know
It did nowhere near 240, lol
The 917 LH n°21 did reach a speed of 246 mph in 1971 , only beaten in 1988 by the WM P88 (peugeot) with 253 mph .
www.mulsannescorner.com/maxspeed.htm
There is nothing in it's specs that points to it being able to do anywhere near 240, also even if it did do 246 the Sauber C9 did 248
amazing.. watched your video of her idle down the pits over and over for 15 minutes - what a beauty
Unquestionably the best racing car ever made
That car scared me as a kid and it still does today, my all time favourite automobile 👌
It's a lot of people's all-time favourite!
This video should have 917k views.
Duret François I agree. ;-)
It should have even more!
Duret François Clever.
My all time personal favorite !!! Nothing on the earth goes up and down my spine. That sound maaaaaan
Fun fact, while there were built 25 units of the 1969-1970 Porsche917, this 917K variant only 12 were produced for 1970-1971, thus the rarity.
K stands for Kurzheck (short-tail).
One of the most gorgeous cars ever made.
Agree
Perfection, just pure raw perfection. Wow just wow.
22 mil for the car and the support gu y with the gas can can't get a golf cart wtf
I was gonna say, he can't get a scooter, hell, even a bike with the little sulky-thing?!?
Got to save money someplace
+Eastern Woods fair point, gotta save up for the highly probable endless black hole of money this thing probably needs to just run
this thing is so old now ;3;
22 mil and not a penny more
Well, as the owner/driver of this car, you have to assert dominance over your servants somehow.
It's been said that when an airplane design looks right, it flies right. This 917K looks right from all angles. Combine that look with that sound, and it explains itself.
The absolute best racing car of all time. Period
Race cars were so much more beautiful before wind tunnels and CFD.
@@w0nd3r6 he's an asshole for what exactly??
_D3LTA-3_ that’s your title
@@o.a.m9515 sounds like an sjw of race cars lol , How dare u not call modern cars beautiful
@@90AlmostFamous lol he does sound like a SJW.......
917 was developed in a wind tunnel.
I love how everyone turn their eyes on her when she passes by.
I was 19 years old
Sitting on the side of the road about 50 miles from Le Mans hitchhiking
I never made it
I watched all them car going by to the race
No enough money for the train
I’ll never forget
Every time I watch this Porsche
I get the chills
SO you didn`t have a bicycle ?
The best LMP1 car of all time.
Not true. The Mazda 787B is. They killed it by making it illegal, because everyone saw how powerful it was. That project would've easily dominated at Le Mans and the WEC for more than 5 years.
Long before that, surely.
Not me thinks.
Lol the 787b only won because it sucked so much that they took 500 kilos of weight out to help it, and even then it was slower, and only won because of reliability
Yeah, what got GrC banned in original form were huge budgets with no suitable replacement for the 962 for privateers & it eating into F1 popularity. Mazda were long supporters of GrC, but never really managed results. The Saubers would have to be the ultimates of the era from results...
170kg less than the other C2 entries for the 787b, that is a massive bonus. Johnny Herbert nearly killing himself helped too...
This 917K and the C9/C11 Sauber Benz are the greatest Race Cars ever seen on road
It's just a fantastic car, a true legend, and the drivers of the 917 became legends.
Also, notice the active rear wings!
2stroke4me Those are not the active wings. The ones you are referring to were on the original 1969 car and very banned for being a moveable aerodynamic device. The one on this car are adjustable but not while driving.
Is this the most unreal racecar by Porsche!!! 😍😱😁
Great intro!
So beautiful!
Simply The beast.
COOL. But not a V 12, The 'Type 912' engine featured a 180° flat-12 cylinder layout, twin overhead camshafts driven from centrally mounted gears and twin spark plugs fed from two distributors.[11] The large horizontally mounted cooling fan was also driven from centrally mounted gears. The longitudinally mounted gearbox was designed to take a set of four or five gears.
Do you mean like this? ruclips.net/video/bgHMvbItu_0/видео.html Check out all me videos. If you can't afford to buy one.............
Actually, it is a 180 Degree V12. It's classified as a V, because connecting rods share crank journals. On a flat, each connecting rod has it's own crank journal.
You are correct 180 tells you its a flat 12 , regardless of crank journal arrangment
@@KartmanWolf Boom! 😁
So does mine! ruclips.net/video/4oCUVlGvUrQ/видео.html
Looks every bit as 2022 as of now! Amazing design!
Geweldig apparaat! Fraaie video. Hoop deze volgend jaar bij Spa Classic te zien! Eigenaar was vorig jaar aanwezig met z'n 908 volgens mij? Volgende keer wel die arme man met de jerrycan meenemen op je fiets hahaha.
Why was Stumpen running after the car with the gas can? Awesome car, one of my fave Porsches.
She's a beaut, and at 600 H.P. a real baest.. now imagine this basic engine and car (in open cockpit and much lighter at about 1,600 lbs.) with twin turbos and over 1,200 H.P. (max 1,500) they called it the 917/30 and it dominated Can-Am in the U.S. in '73....most likely the fastest road race car ever built.
+Steve Fowler Totally different car. There was actually very little commonality.
@@thethirdman225 It's a 917/30 only difference was longer wheel base and twin turbos, 5.4 litre engine still the same flat 12 aircooled configuration. Same same but only little difference.
@@dawalt009 I know exactly what the 917/30 was. Every time anyone brings up the 917 someone thinks it's an ace card to talk about the 917/30 and all the happens is that people get confused. The 917K and LH were endurance racers designed to a completely different rule and unrelated to the Can Am car. All you're doing is confusing people. If you think the modifications were minor, you are wrong.
@@thethirdman225
Seriously?
1/ Porsche 917, same name
2/ flat 12, same motor, bigger bore but with turbos
3/same undercarriage, longer wheel base
4/ 917 with roof, 917/30 open
5/ same gearbox
The difference is like having a V8 Mustang or a V8 Shelby Mustang.
You must see through the blind spots.
@dawalt009
*_"1/ Porsche 917, same name"_*
So what?
*_"2/ flat 12, same motor, bigger bore but with turbos"_*
So, not the same motor then... Massively different, in fact. Also different compression ratio, different fuel consumption...
*_"3/same undercarriage, longer wheel base"_*
So, not the same chassis then... Vastly different aero too.
*_"4/ 917 with roof, 917/30 open"_*
Completely different bodywork and different aero, as I already pointed out.
*_"5/ same gearbox"_*
Except that one was 4-speed and the other 5-speed...
All in all, not a lot of similarities. Certainly not the same car. All you're doing is confusing people. The 917/30 never raced at Le Mans or, indeed, in any World Sportscar Championship races because it wasn't eligible. You're just trying to outdo people with claims of massive top speeds and horsepower figures. There’s always one.
Just a monster
En Mulsanne Jackie Oliver casi llega a los 400km/hora en 1972,con un 917,el mejor y más iconico SP de la Historia del automovilismo,una bestia,una máquina de ganar,una leyenda sobre ruedas!!! facebook.com/929048017281304/posts/1457538901098877/?vh=e&d=nmás iconico SP de la
Is there an air filter? what if a leaf falls in the hole?
5:29 the guy is like, "Damn 917 is ruining my picture of this beautiful 911!"
Legend
Awesome!
0:42 That sound...!
0:55 What model is that? 1/64 scale?
Imagine how painful it would be to crash this
Pavel Rybalko I believe the word your conveying is "suicidal". lol
I was thinking the same
For the owner, painful. The driver wouldn't feel a thing
Pavel Rybalko nonsense. They pressurized the tube frame so it was the first use of safety airbags. Driver was completely protected from any harm. Donohue hit the wall at 90 degrees at speed at talladega and reportedly said "can I get a do over?".
I'm sure the owner wouldn't be bothered. He/she wouldn't allow it on track if they were.
i always see those avon tyres on old school race cars
My favourite Porsche a 917K but in Gulf livery... 😎
props to drive 22 million dollars of car so hard after all these years
Your videos are always amazing! Do you live there?
Dave P1 No, I live Belgium near circuit zolder.
OMG sounds sick !
Flat 12, boyyo!
i think its great that they are taking these old cars out! if they sit, its the worse thing to do to these cars! drive them dont store them in a museum! plus these cars are being driven by professionals! i really would think the driver knows how much to push this car! thanks for the close up look!
I was at Spa-Francorchamps for the 1000 km of 1970. I was there to see Rodriguez and Siffert have a kiss. But I was also at the GP of East London South Africa in 1962? I might be getting old. I was also at Le Mans in 1988 and 1989. But I was also there to see Belgium vs France for the Davis Cup in 2017. MDR.
why is it that i never seem to see these beasts in slicks
@The ThirdMan The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird and the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde, were built by the same generation of engineers and like the Porsche 917 both of those remain unbeaten too. Nothing made today even comes close to those engineering marvels either. Your CAD/CAM hasn't given us anything that even comes close to them. The Boeing MAX is an unsurprising product of CAD/CAM technology. Flawed and dangerous. The calculations that you quote were correct when they were made. The long tail was quickly figured out to be an evolutionary dead end and dropped despite one finishing second in the 1970 Le Mans. It roasted its rear wheel bearings and its rear tyres due to the heat coming off of the air-cooled engine being captured by the long tail bodywork. But its main fault was that it was aerodynamically flawed.
You don't factor in the fact that Porsche were constantly developing the engine getting more and more power from it. In its final (not Le Mans form) it developed 1560 bhp in qualifying and consistently delivered 1100 bhp in racing trim in CanAm where it was so unbeatable that it destroyed the CanAm series. Wheel creep does not matter when your have horsepower a plenty. It went to the North American CanAm series after the FIA changed the rule-book to ban it from racing in Europe because it was so successful. Porsche also tested but never raced an 1800 bhp version. With all due respect to you its not like comparing a Sopwith Camel with an F14 Tomcat. Its like comparing the Blackbird with the Tomcat. No contest. A fairer comparison would be to compare the 917 with the Ford Model T if you are going to compare the F14 with the Sopwith Camel. The warbird Tomcat could, just barely, catch the Concorde, a mere passenger plane! But if the Concorde had even a slight lead on the Tomcat, the Tomcat would run out of fuel long, long before that happened because the difference between their top speeds was marginal. The Tomcat was good for a short burst of Mach 2+. Concorde could cross the Atlantic at Mach 2+ and did so daily for twenty seven glorious years. The Tomcat was also replaced by an inferior aircraft. The Mach 1.8 F18 Hornet which was a lot slower than Concorde never mind the Blackbird.
Engineers today rely on CAD to do their engineering for them and thus are not really engineers at all. They are only computer programmers, pure and simple. The genius of men like Clarence Kelly Johnson and Hans Mezger does not exist in the engineering world today. Nor is there anything to equal the machines they designed and built without CAD/CAM. This generation of CAD/Camless engineers also landed men on the moon, something else that is not going to happen again anytime soon. The Americans cannot even put a man into space today and are reduced to hitching lifts to the International Space Station from the Russians in their non-CAD/CAM designed Soyuz rockets. And, no, the CAD/CAM designed VSS Unity VP-03 doesn't count. It made a sub-orbital flight no better than the one John Glenn did fifty eight years ago in 1962 in the non-CAD/CAM Friendship 7.
Whether you like the fact or not, the unbeatable Porsche 917 Kurzheck remains the greatest car ever built. Like Concorde, like Blackbird, like Apollo, over fifty years after it was designed and built there is nothing made today that even comes close to matching the magnificent 917K. There is nothing even being designed today that will surpass any of these engineering icons. The SS United States, the largest passenger ship ever built in America, took the 'fastest crossing of the Atlantic by a passenger ocean liner record' in 1952 winning the much coveted and prestigious Blue Riband. It still holds the Blue Riband today. It will probably hold the Blue Riband forever because none of the modern CAD/CAM built liners of today come even close to matching her speed or her beauty either. Not everything done today is better than it was before.
Unequalled, unbeaten and utterly beautiful looking engineering masterpieces; all of them. As a small child I saw Richard Attwood and Hans Hermann win the 1970 Le Mans 24 Hours in a 917K with Willi Kauhsen and Gerard Larrousse finishing second in a 917 Langenheck. I have seen many racing cars race since then but I have never seen the equal of those monsters that just dominated all around them nor have I ever heard better than the spine tingling haunting glory banshee howl of their air-cooled flat twelve engines being pushed to their limits down the Mulsanne straight at 385 kph at night. Not only do they not make cars like that any more, they do not make drivers of that quality anymore either. I have also been privileged to fly Concorde. Bahrain to London, an upgrade that I really could not afford at the time, departing Bahrain at six o'clock in the morning. The upgrade was more than worth it as I saw three sunrises in one day, I have flown faster than a rifle bullet, I have flown at 53,000 feet and have seen the darkness of space and the curvature of the earth. I have flown at Mach 2.02. Nobody today can do this and it will be many, many years yet before they can do so again, if, indeed, they ever can. There is no 'bigger and better' today. There are only the unbeaten icons of history. Take your CAD/CAM and shove it where the sun don't shine. What you are claiming about the 917K is the same as claiming that the Boeing MAX is a better aircraft than Concorde because it was designed using CAD/CAM and is built using composite materials rather than the, mostly aluminium, that both the non-CAD/CAM 917 and Concorde were built from. Yeah! Right it is. Ha, ha, ha. My generation invented the internet and went to the Moon. Your generation invented Facebook and went to Playstation.
Not even god could have said this any better 🙏🙏, I however was born to the play station loving hyper car chasing generation but luckily I was blessed with the mindset of someone from the 60-80s era and therefore I only prefer classic vehicles and the way you've actually bridged the gap between the concorde is pretty smart. However don't forget the gt40 alfa romeo 159 alfetta and the other greats they too were invincible in their own right.
We've already been through this and you left with your tail between your legs, calling me all sorts of names after you got your arse handed to you. Very dignified. Not.
@@thethirdman225 Glad to know you are now out of hibernation and doing well! Nothing has changed while you were asleep, The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird, the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde and the Porsche 917K are still unbeaten masterpieces. Stick with your Sopwith Camel and your absolutely wonderful, world beating CAD/CAM Boeing MAX. P.S. I am sure you will be happy to know that no one has walked on the moon again since you went to sleep.
@@Patmofar
*_"The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird, the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde and the Porsche 917K are still unbeaten masterpieces."_*
Unbeaten in what respect? You've never quantified this, other than long, boring opinions.
*_"Stick with your Sopwith Camel and your absolutely wonderful, world beating CAD/CAM Boeing MAX."_*
Sopwith Camel?
The Boeing 737 (which I never mentioned) was designed in the same timeframe as the Concorde and slightly after the De Havilland Comet.
The greatest racing car ever built ,bar none. Even after 48 years, the sound of that engine gives me chills. If I had one wish before I died, it would be to drive that machine! Also, in another video, I heard a Porsche factory mechanic say the engine was a 180 degree flat V 12? doesn"t make sense. How can you have a flat V?
It refers to the layout of the crankshaft.
There comes a time in a Porsche owners life when getting passed, makes you smile so hard your can't remove it for hours.
You hear that project cars2 thats how they sound!
When I was at Lime Rock years ago the owner wanted $1.3m. Damn him, he wouldn't take a check!!!
Monaco plates? Is that road legal in Monaco then? Just about anything seems to be.
there was a car in the '70 registred in Alabama.Owner was Conut Rossi of Martini e Rossi
Surely it is street legal that’s a perfect example for what money can buy
Yes, you can't believe it. Put its true! :-)
Monster
WOW!
Why is the dude running after him with the jerry can ?
I’m in love
Stunning - with a road legal number plate?
Yes, the owner lives near Monaco.
I know the 917/30 had a spool system, im not sure about other models but if it does it must have been a bear getting it around low speed corners (any guys with welded diffs and no power steering who have to make u turns know what I mean
Right. I'm loading Project Cars 2 now.
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't those Monaco plates, making it road legal?
That was my first thought too. What a car to pick up your date
Howard Leeming pretty sure i heard somewhere that count rossi made this a road legal 917 and drove it on the road
Eastern Woods They're street legal anyway.
depends on whose streets - I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pass US safety or emissions standards.....
Yes, the owner made them street legal.
top...............
get the mechanic a bike t least!!! poor guy running after the car
The front of the 917 just says "Get out of my way - don't even think of fucking with me" like no other car ever.
Ahh yes my favorite Porsche! If only Porsche would make a street version today, like Ford did with the GT in 05.
It would have to be slightly larger of course. It also probably would need a redesign of the rear so the wheels wouldn’t be exposed. That is just my fantasy.
Won't that thing idle overheat on the slow long run from the garage to track?
air cooled motors don't overheat.
@@dawalt009 Ah! But there are air ducts for the oil coolers on that race car. The oil could overheat.
What was that slapping noise when at idle in the garage?
sounds like a slight misfire
Erik 567 Thats the sound of Horses having an argument!
I see that Ron Dennis found a new job.
is this the road going 917k who is in monaco ??? i've read a blog about that one.
Yes, that's the one.
Just asking:is the 917 being featured in the
video a roadgoing replica of the original racing car ? I feel doubtful how could a replica being worth $22 M, so I do wonder if the owner did actually register the original racing specimen as a roadgoing vehicle in Monaco Principality...May I assume this car was the very same 917 raced by Porsche Martini team with Elford Larrousse and friends ? Then it might be worth tons of money indeed.
Simply "The daddy"!!
From 3:52 to 6:00 this car oozes nasty badass wicked cool.
It was like Moses parting the Red Sea as this beast rolled up to the false grid. Everyone knew to get out of the way of the big dog.
Wow. There is no substitute
Just wondering, but why would Porsche think that having the engine fan exposed, yet covering the cylinders right next to it would be a good thing? Am I getting something wrong here?
The point being ?
@Aiden West . . . the engine fan exposed was to aid in the air-cooling of the engine. I'm a bit uncertain about the _cylinders_ you refer to? If you mean the _injector ports?_ The bodywork covered it as part of the aero package of the car's body, and, to assist with the airflow intake into the injector's ports. Having injector ports in the wrong place can hinder the air intake.
I never would've thought a bike could pass a 917! 4:55.
😄👍
Doesn't 180 degrees make it a flat 12?
How they could ever put in a "V12" in the description is beyond me. Why not call it a diesel why you are at it? Both are patently wrong!
yes - its a flat12
@@SuperRede4u The arrangement and crackshaft is that of a V, at 180 degrees. That is why it is a V180, whether we like it, or not.
I like the feller chasing it all the way up the pit lane with a can of petrol.
Multiple people speaking Deutsche in the background adds to the feeling of conviction.
Horn is not working?
Well,if needed......just rev it a little bit :)
Le Mans 1970
I would completely lose my shit when I would see a 917 in real life and some people were walking by like there is nothing
me too such a brutal car i love it 😍
Porsche 917......the F1...to..wheels......blankets.....!!!😁😁😁. Very good 👍. Thanks.
What does the "K" mean?
Kurzheck, which means "short tail". There is also a 917 LH. Which mean Langheck, or "long tail".
180 deg V-12...? Hmmm....
Why does it have a license plate (Monaco)? 🤷♂️
Because the owner made it streetlegal.
Because it can .
that anouncer needs to shut up so we can hear the car;)
Je suis déjà monter dans cette 917
Animal ....
I got that modelcar too 😁
4:54 when the legendary monster gets owned by the MOPED!
OK, I only ever heard it called the Mulsanne straight.
Poor old guy with the can running along with the 917 conked out after jogging a 1/2 mile and finally caught up. "Sorry Hans we couldn't afford a golf cart, we maxed out on budget".
ThicC
Run gasoline man run
someone give that man a a bike!
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