COMICS INSPIRED BY MANGA
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Sources cited in the video, but to make things brief:
OSTs USED
1. Persona 3
2. SNK vs Capcom
3. Sonic CD
4. FLCL (The Pillows)
5. Mega Man 10
6. TMNT: Turtles in Time
7. Pizza Tower
8. Persona 4
9. Street Fighter EX 3
10. Scott Pilgrim The Game
11. Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
12. Pokemon Black 2 & White 2
Sorry for being a lazy hack and using wikipedia sources for some of the content involved, but I did look for studies and fair use articles that helped support the evidence provided. I'm open to being critiqued and fact checked, so please let me know if I got any background information wrong or left out some details in the comments below!
K6BD does have anime influence, but that influence is pretty minor. The rest of it is influenced by the lore that Michael Kirkbride wrote for Morrowind, Hinduism, Buddhism, Gnosticism, regular Christianity, and the art is influenced by the art of Jean Giraud (AKA Moebius).
Awesome video, was not expecting Saturday AM love but it is welcome. I've always heard of battle chasers and kills 6 billion demons whenever I got a chance to read them but thanks it is real definitely will. If you're interested in a company that doesn't have the mixture of Manga and comics check out iconic comics, They have series like kamen America and They have series like kamen America and blackhops. By the way the publishing company that published radiant also has a bunch of other longest dial stories from space punch to their most well-known animated series and I'm surprised is an on here for French wakfu/doufs.
Absolutely fantastic video! Thank you so much for being so in depth and not another reactionary hack like some of the examples you showed up at the beginning of the video.
The “reactionary hacks” have done more for the comic industry than you, or this idiot ever will.
His point about how comics were “always inspired by Manga” is completely invalid.
The comics that were “inspired” by Manga back then, only attempted to be poor emulations of what people actually liked, and did not actually have anything of what makes Manga so good.
@@TheSupaman98 I really like how you liked your own comment, lol. Signs of someone who only speaks the truth.
@@D.B.Z.CooperWoke idiots are absolute experts in never proving a point, yet also thinking that they have said something profound, lol.
@@TheSupaman98 Keep liking your own comment, loser. I'm pretty sure no one else would, you don't seem like a likeable person to begin with. Probably that's why you're so angy, boohoo.
@@D.B.Z.Cooper Got nothing to say, or are you just going to make 6 more accounts to like your own comment? Lol, idiot. 😂
12:26 I am suddenly interested in this comic book 📖 well I should say manga
My favorite comic inspired by manga would have to be Baldur's Gate III
DOWN DOWN DOWN BY THE RIVER
@@_THE_LOG_Did you even bother watching any of the videos the people you hate so much, you woke idiot?
The fact that comics failed at replicating the success of Manga, proves that they did not achieve the quality that Manga usually has. Which is the point we are actually making.
What we are actually saying is that western comics are not as good as Manga, even if they try to be, and have failed to reach the same quality.
20:59 in all fairness , O'Malley has made two other series other than Scott Pilgrim , its just that nobody cares.
I've fucking adore comics n manga
Just love the inspiration from
All areas , empower my new favorite
Amerimanga FUCKING ASTOUNDING
I gotta check those out
I would love a video on that one time stan lee made a manga
I SAW THOSE SHIORI EXPERIENCE PANELS! My favorite Manga, any chance of a video on it?
I would if I could play licensed music without fear of global blockage lol
@@_THE_LOG_ Just wanna say awesome video dude was not expecting to see some Saturday am love but it is welcome. Funny thing about radiant the company it was published by akama studios does a lot of longest style comics from space points and their most well-known series wakfu/ dofus, Which you should check out. You should check out iconic comics because they have a very good selection of mongos/comic style stories is especially the most popular kamen America Is in black hops
Is the battle chasers video game part of the comics continuity or can it be skipped.
Skippable, basically a separate continuity.
@@_THE_LOG_ It’s probably a “berserk lost chapter” situation. It’s story probably isn’t canon for now but could get reintroduced later.
Hey I was just wondering if you’d do a video on Usagi Yojimbo I feel like you’d do a great job with it
I agree I just think they should get away from the preachy bullshit and just do cool looking and badass stories
And I agree with your thought process
I'm surprised Frank Miller didn't come up.
Comics biggest problem is publishing, thy bad at it
Support grass roots publishers like Silver Sprocket!!!
Aside from the huge ass strawman argument at the beginning, this is a very solid video.
I've watched most of those videos that you referenced in the beginning. They're argument isn't that manga is inherently better than comics per se. It's that manga is succeeding in the west because manga stories are more focused on good storytelling and respecting their core audiences, whereas western comics nowadays are more focused on being overtly political at the expense of insulting their core/majority audiences' tastes and sensibilities, as well as the estrangement said audience. If you actually watched those videos, you'd see that most of those RUclipsrs lament the decline of western comics. In other words, they want comics to succeed but they're seeing where it's not succeeding and attributing that to the excessive presence of woke propaganda, tone deafness, and comic creators straight up dissing their core demographics, among other things. So, when they say western comics be more like manga to succeed, they're not talking about aesthetics or design or even themes. These RUclipsrs are talking about western publishers and creators adopting a less antagonistic and/or political approach to marketing their books if they want said books to sell.
Ultimately, whether or not any of this is true is moot (their observations are mostly correct, imo) but they're definitely not claiming what you say they're claiming. In any case, I appreciate the history lesson. I did learn a few things I didn't know. So, Thank you
Thank you for your well put critique and appreciation. While looking back now, I do agree that I constructed a straw man, I also agree with some of the points those creators have stated in the past as well. I do believe that some of the Big 2's output is very much marketed and at times written for demographics in a preachy, belittling way. I also believe that The Big 2 suffer from far more problems than just an aggressive marketing strategy and intentional alienation of their core fanbase. Comics are selling FINE, but they could 100% sell better.
@@_THE_LOG_ It's all good, man. We all want comics (whether eastern or western) to win. That's what's most important.
And to add a bit more to what I said in my original comment: it's not like manga never gets political (Full-Metal Alchemist and Attack on Titan come to mind), they often do. It's just that they do it way better by a) putting the politics in the subtext, so that readers only have to engage with it if they want to and can enjoy the story at a surface level; b) arguing both the proposition and opposition in good faith, so that readers can decide for themselves which position resonates with them more, and c) creating niches for the audiences they're trying to appeal to, instead of forcing something else to be what it's not for the sake of "diversity" and "representation". In other words, mangaka create all kinds of comics for all kinds of people, as opposed to trying to represent every kind of person in every comic. For example, if gay romance or representation is the primary focu, there's the shounen-ai and yaoi niches for that. So a person who isn't into that isn't forced to encounter it in their hyper masculine, heteronormative battle shounen series. And guess what? If the latter person _does_ at some point want to read a gay romance they can grab a yaio title and engage with that community, on their own terms. And vice versa. So the way how manga is set up, nobody has to infringe on anybody's rights or representation.
These are some of the reasons, if not the main reasons, why manga seems to be winning.
(Sorry for the mini essay again 😅)
"comics nowadays are more focused on being overtly political at the expense of insulting their core/majority audiences' tastes and sensibilities" So by nowadays you mean since like the 1960's because Stan Lee was very political in his comics even back then!
@@_THE_LOG_ I think the so called "core" fan base, isn't as core as they may think they are
Comics have always been political. Look at the origins of Superman or Wonder Woman, look at watchmen and DKR, look at transmetropolitan (even though it’s flawed). All that’s to say comics have ALWAYS been political they just used to do it far better
Even comicstorian own videos views show that comic are dying.
Book stores have 7 or 8 shelves of manga and only 2 shelves full of comics and comic stores that i go to have more manga and funko pops then comics
Try telling that to this idiot, lol.
Also, he says to watch comicstorian, but he refuses to watch any of the videos of any of the “chuds” he hates. Probably because they would totally school him on comics and Manga.
Why mention the funko pop?
@misterboxhead3045 because it is one of the first thing you see when you enter the comic shop. I also want to show that comic book are becoming less focused on in my comic shop
So what you saying that you didn't watch comicstorian video😐
Have you tried to look into bande dessineé
You should make a video on Johnny the homicidal maníaco
Yo thanks for the name change, now I can recommend your channel to my friends without being skinned alive, I don't need that happening to me outside of work.
15:34 What's Raziel from Legacy of Kain doing there?
7:27 I thought onegai was please
Your voice reminds me of J.T. Sexkik
Manga isnpired comics should be a seperate category of work of sorts , man the big two should tap this potential in a better curated way , that would kind of improve culture in a better way
14:38 🫡
Worst world someday...someday....
0:46 no they don’t. They care about their stupid culture war bullshit.
Fun
I think the furry with the diaper was unnecessary please never again
I never got to Western comics because I thought the story sucked balls.
I mean to each their own ig but as a whole I think western comics have on average better stories than eastern comics (specifically shonen and manwha)
Problems with western comics especially nowadays is that they push agendas and politics - or other things reader DGAF about - to the detriment of entertainment way too much.
@@kickin3398 Thats not saying much when one medium is older than the other tbh
Stop reading capeshit and you’ll find some good western comics
Two things can be true at once: Manga was inspired by early American comics. Manga is more popular today than American comics.
And hopefully, as an effect of the latter statement, comics get back to entertainment rather than pandering.
Search for the definition of pandering on the dictionary and you might undertstand why you are subscribed to Nerdrotic. If that ain't the definition of pandering i don't know what it is then. But then again pandering, just the same as many other words on the internet as lost all meaning.
@@D.B.Z.Cooper If you search for the definition of pandering, you’d find some idiots like yourself nearby. Dear god, your whole argument is, “how dare you subscribe to this amazing content creator known as Nerdrotic!” Like an evil villain from their lair.
So you admit you don’t know what pandering is, yet you’re accusing other people of it? YOU PEOPLE are the reason why the word “pandering” has lost all meaning.
The “Manga was inspired by early American comics” is a meaningless point from him, since it’s irrelevant, and doesn’t change the fact that the quality of western comics is significantly lower than that of Manga.
@@D.B.Z.Cooper 😄 Don't get your panties in a bunch. I could take the time to look at who you're subscribed to but I'm not filled as much as you are with righteous indignation to waste my time.
@@L337KidKuso Not filled with "Righteous indignation" he says while subscribed to Nerdrotic, lol. You people ain't serious.