Forensic engineer suggests there could be two killers in Murdaugh trial: Full video
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2023
- Mike Sutton, a forensic engineer, hired by Alex Murdaugh's defense team, testified about the killings. He suggested there could be two killers of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh and that the shooter was too short to have been Alex.
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You pay a guy 18,000$ and he will come up with whatever you want him to.
Yup! He is a paid LIAR.
@@truthseeker1234 not necessarily a liar but he can make the data look very favorable to your situation. The state's lawyer did a terrible job on his cross examination of this witness.
Remember the "psychologist" Amber Herd hired? She never talked to Johnny Depp but she diagnosed him. They'll $ay anything for moolah!
These guys are professional testifies. Coming to court to confuse the jury. They make their living this way.
Wonder where he got the money from because of all the laundering he did?
What if the shooter is in a kneeling position. A common shooting position.
Or croughing/going down to pick up the rifle and seeing paul is still alive and standing up, panick shots the second shot from that position, turning around while picking up the rifle to shoot maggie, and as he was raising the gun shot her in the leg, then side and and upper body, walked around and shot her in the head...something like that anyway
Exactly...or sitting on the ATV or lying on his stomach. Surely folks on jury has seen war movies. This guy mostly reconstructs accident scenes. The prosecution will drive this home during cross.
@@juliecrane9647 Oh the State tore this witness apart! He just looked deflated!
@@julesservantofjesus972 I fell asleep B4 their cross...I'm gonna watch now. Thanks
Exactly!!!!
Alex was a hunter. Just because he’s taller than 5’2” doesn’t mean he can’t crouch down. 🤑🤑🤑
He was duck walking.
When he fired the shot that killed Paul he was in a crouching position and that took off. Most of his skull and his brains were down by his feet. Alec is 6.4...and in a crouched position he would measure somewhere around five foot two to five foot to five foot four. He would have to crouch to shoot Maggie in the head because I believe she was on her hands and knees with her head down unless he shot her in the back of the head. Really how hard would it be to find a five foot two man..
Unless it was a woman. I could not breathe when he said it could not be Alex. I don't believe this for a moment. Am I missing something here?
@@sjjewel1206 yeah you missing everything. 😂 Alex was the shooter yet you have no evidence he is the shooter. Thank god you ppl are not a jury.
Exactly , he was kneeling ... This expert lol
@@sjjewel1206 kneeling is a popular shooting position.
Two killers ??? Did these two "real killers" get the memo that said...Maggie and Paul will be at Moselle tonight!!
They get the memo not to bring guns to and Bullets as they will be provided.
In todays world, it could happen
Absolutely great points in all regards!
Yes, it was advertised to a hired hitman(Alex’s imaginary friend from hell).😂
@@postcardsfromprotest or hid the guns in a specific location in the woods by back road? But… their dogs hearing is way more sensitive than humans so they’d be barking a lot, right?
I don't believe the person was 5 foot 2 inches. I Hunt... If a tall person puts the butt of a Gun down and raise it up a little will have the same out come.
Also ALEC could been kneeling down behind a quad or on the quad as it was determined it was same tire print of that POLARIS on Maggie calf. Not reasonable at all to say the shooter was 5'2 ! Hey, can I borrow couple guns and bullets.
@@amorl4520 Yep Right on.
2 elves showed up with no guns,that's their theory? 😂
🤣😂🤣 💯 🎯
Alex's Murdaugh had many different guns so it would not surprise me he used different gun's to make it look like there was 2 shooter's. But I believe he just switched guns to make it look like 2 shooter's. So not buying that. Paul was killed 1st then Maggie was chased down.
Plus the shotgun held two shots and he just picked up another loaded gun since he used both rounds on Paul.
Could be three, four. Maybe 5. Paid to guess. It was 1, our defendant, acting alone.
two killers.. right.... two little short people, but Alex was there and the facts say so-- so if he didn't kill them, he just watched?
It’s not funny, yet reading “two little short people” as killers made me chuckle ~ I’m right between that height! But really, you’re right~ THAT whole theory is so ridiculous! We ALL already know Alec was THERE ~ 3-mins before, or even in Alec’s testimonies leaving at 9:06+/- that’s still only like 10-12 mins for two little short people to do this much harm AND get away when Alec was just 1/3 mile away! And didn’t take that little slight left turn to check on his wife and son who didn’t respond??! Makes no sense!
...from his golf cart
So if you were there would you be able to stop something moving 2500 ft per second?
No one has mentioned that Alex could have been sitting in a golf cart when he shot them. Remember Maggie had a tire mark on her leg. This would account for the lower shooting angle as well. it was a 3 seater golf cart with rear flip seat charger) the top of the steering wheel is 49” making the seat 36” off the ground. Add Alex’s heights on the seat which makes him roughly 5’2”-5’4” firearm height. This is probably what happened ......with the addition of him driving up to the room in the cart then washing himself and the cart down and driving back to the house.....Seems more feasible. ruclips.net/video/8aYfUUMiyKg/видео.html
explains the tire tracks all over the place as well.
Good observation
Thank you! I've been screaming that at my screen.
@@phecube 🤣🤣
yep golf cart or 4 wheeler. or he could've kneeled. one thing we do know is he's a professional liar and a successful one too
What if a 6' 4" person kneeled down and shot?
It would line up perfectly
Or was sitting in the golf cart
Pathetic. Even if you want to believe this theory rest assured that one was caught. Only Alex knows if there is another killer and a murderer can't be trusted.
The State just tore apart this witness! Great job!!
@@julesservantofjesus972 no they didn't lol..... Math doesn't lie or change.... this guy is right. No matter how butt hurt the state got... the math is there.... they just chose not to do it
@@mattjones8254 they ripped apart his credentials. He is a highly paid “expert” on very little.
@@mattjones8254totally agree with you!
Can’t argue against physics and mathematics trig angles!
The prosecution fell asleep during his testimony and the judge started objecting .lol
really ? goooood!
I think they were focusing on their second cross examination which was excellent!
Everyone keeps saying the 2 guns make them think it wasn't him. We're talking about a deceitful (20 years) defense attorney. He used TWO GUNS to make it look like two shooters and to take the focus off of himself. What he didn't anticipate was Paul's very own snap chat video, Onstar, phone records, etc, that put him at the crime scene. He's a murderer. Guilty. If I'm wrong, why would the "real " evidence point to him and him only. My son was murdered and I've never heard of anyone putting up a reward for just a specific period of time.... that's ludicrous. This witness is bought and paid for by the defense, and he even says, "It's my opinion "... and you know what we all say about opinions. I'm surprised they even let this guy even testify. Trying to imply it was the cartel because most of them are between 5'2 and 5'5. I just hope the jury sees thru this bs defense play.
I agree. Lol. Alex wanted this to look like the excuses he gave the moment he rang 911. They say bringing an alibi up in first contact with law enforcement such as on a 911 call is a dead giveaway of guilt. Most would be concerned with what happened and further attacks to themselves or family. And deliberate or planned revenge murders don't risk turning up and hoping for there to be weapons on site for each one to use.
I found this fellow very credible.
The prosecution cross was completely unable to budge him.
I don’t believe he used 2 guns intentionally. The second shot at Paul was fired while holding the shotgun by his thigh. He was shocked the first shot didn’t drop him instantly, and he lowered the gun and backed up, firing with his right hand by his side. The recoil from the shotgun caused him to drop it. He’s backing up and gets to the side by side where there’s the. .300, that he grabs to shoot Maggie.
Ah yes, because the prosecution is completely innocent 😂
@@bfg1836 Perhaps two guns were planned to be used by AM, remember he is a hunter, the shotgun was used for the more formidable victim at close range in the event there is a struggle. Then knowing his wife may run after he kills his son, he uses the rifle for a longer distant kill shot if necessary.
If there were actual killers then why wasn't Alex afraid for his life & Busters life? Why didn't he ever look for the killers?
Because all he cared about was clearing his sons name. That way he would not have to pay out money
he did he went to get a gun he was afraid
You can not believe the way this prosecution puts things. They twist everything to make the defense look defenseless, Alec and Buster both had put up a reward to help find killers.
@@EricaBaker2023 a time limited reward that they knew would not be paid out because they both knew exactly who did the shooting. Who puts such a short timescale on a reward ?
@@ksmithkatcarvinghe already had one in the vehicle. He went to the house the shower and dispose of evidence
This guy was a joke. I do guns. A lot. I do ballistics gel testing on ammo. Bullets almost always change direction in gel that mimics the body. He didn’t take that into account, at all. Instead he came up with a bizarre theory that they were killed by a cub scout pack.
Were those bullets that exited the body? I don't recall them saying so. If they were missed shots that didn't enter the body, could the shooter have been sitting in a golf cart/ATV or bending over the hood?
I just looked at Census data from 2007-2008 and the percentage of males 5'2" were not even in the data. It said the amount was too small to be significant. Cub Scouts...Lol
His explainations were so ridiculous. Almost all his trajectory are straight line. This is definitely not his field of expertise. He is a mechanical engineer dealing with hard objects in movements i.e, automobiles. He tried to justy it by saying he seen deer being shots from a distance. But he has not dealt with scenes involving shooting of people. It's all supposition-not scientific fact.
Yeah or a little person was the shooter. It's all BS
@@fozziebear888 Yeah like the State lawyer said, "The 12 yr old!" LOL 😆 He tore this witness apart. He looked totally undone!
This is a great example of how witnesses will testify to anything if paid enough cash.
stoopid comment. You must be a true blonde
I wonder why the prosecution didn't have an expert to explain? Hmmm I'll tell you why ,the numbers weren't in their favor. So if course the defense should have an expert to this. It only helps the defense. Even though there is a couple of things that hurt the defense as well 👍I don't blame the defense for showing the jury. 👍
Since that is a total mischaracterization of reality please don't feel offended by a few sarcastic remarks:
Is horseback still the most popular form of transportation?
What year is it anyway?
The COMPANY Mr. Suttun works for charges $350 hr and Mr Suttun said he has 40 payable hours.
@@viewerpet12 So, you're still being rude? It's quite boring, so why not try being kind for 24 hours? You may like it.
@@Snail.1 It is not because the numbers were in the defense's favor. If the prosecution needs an expert they would have one. There are often 2 opposing sides in trials. The defense must pay big money for this guy. Try researching this witness he's likely testified in numerous trials.
So the defense is saying 2 twelve year olds that were 5’2” committed the murders.
remember childern cannot deal with PTSD its very distrubing to see it... always truth to tell than adults commit a crime
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How do we know those holes in the quail pen and dog house weren't there before the murders? How do we know the casings weren't there before since they said they were all over the property.
Forensic "Engineer" meaning his job is to partly engineer what he wants the outcome to be for his own gain. This is how its done
Good point or if they were shot there after just to throw everybody off
@@dawnsullivan6233 I honestly don’t know what you have to tell yourself to make that make sense. Critical thinking isn’t your thing?
Sometimes bullets deflect after passing through a body.
Almost always. Considering the shot came out in armpit how could it get to the tree?
Defense is killing their case. All I got from Buster was a coached witness who clearly lied for Daddy.
The reviewing of a lifetime of vacations, multiple homes, beach houses, hunting camps, all enjoyed for years at the cost of his clients and the law firm, and the banks, and mortgage companies that he ripped off.
Buster put a magnifying glass on how they all lived off of the ill gotten gains. Today made me want to bury Alex under the jail. What the hell was the Defense thinking?
You're just jealous
Oh and lets not forget he flipped off a Witness in the Courtroom
@@jamesstone9213 😂 yeah everyone wants to be in there shoes. Jealous of what? Faking it until you don't make it!!!!
@@mariaelenaarata303The Defense got into trouble with the Judge, too.
@@mariaelenaarata303 I missed that. When was that ?
There could be 10 killers but one who was there just minutes before it all went down lied about being there and there was no evidence of any stranger who was never there before. Furthermore, the family guns were used. I highly doubt cartel or another killer would choose the family shotguns to kill these folks. They didn't seem to be taken by surprise by no means. It's hard to beat the evidence even if you tried. Videos and cell phone/car data got this right. Paul spoke from the grave.
There is no proof that family guns were used but guns are missing and that is bad enough... Alex is his own worst enemy!
Well stated!
Exactly, pretty much nothing?
ALSO, some killer took Maggie's phone thru ut down long driveway, and nor Paul's??? Paul was gonna cost Alex millions, Maggie wS probably gonna divorce and taje half, alex had to get rid of the both of them, you cannot sue a dead person-paul, Maggie being dead, alex would get all the properties and assets. --- BAM
knee shot, tripod meantioned?
Don't forget Paul Snapchat video just before they were killed. Alex's Murdaugh voice was heard in Snapchat video so he was definitely there. He left 9.10 pm and he slowed down where the phone was found. So it's difficult not to think it was Alex's Murdaugh all along who did this. It's heartbreaking
Let's talk timeline. Paul's phone locks at 849, Alex leaves w his truck at 906, from the house 1/3 of a mile away. In 15 min he would need to get back to the house 1/3 of a mile, ditch 2 guns, clean up and ditch clothing. All in 15 min. Just bc Paul's phone locks at 849 doesn't mean that is when he was killed which would also shorten the 15 min to ?????. That murder was BRUTAL and the shooter would have blood and bodily matter...15 min. Please tell me HOW??? The state has NOT proved the case AT ALL! why the rush to charge without evidence. Alex will already spend the rest of his life in prison for his financial crimes.
Very heartbreaking. No matter how much people disliked the victims. Not okay.
@@jennifervangorder2474 is the VanGorder family related to the Murtaugh family ???? Any person with common sense, eyes and ears knows the evidence that has been provided and that it all points to Alex and no one else.
Yes, lets go over the timeline: Alex had access to ATV, per his testimony, Maggie was not a walker. She also had the impression of ATV wheel tread on her leg. he can get to his truck in a minute. Takes a minute or two to murder his family. He changed clothes at the truck & ditched the murder outfit he wore in the video earlier that day, it is missing.
I believe that's why he went looking for Paul's phone...
This guy never really answers a question rather he just rambles about something else.
Alex was there at the Moselle kennels, in spite of the fact he lied and said he wasn't. He had over an 1 1/4 hr to pull it off. He had the guns in the kennels loaded & change of clothes ready. He probably wore a disposable suit to protect him from tissue & blood. Then he washed off the using the kennel hose. Disposed guns & clothes wrapped in a tarp at Almeda. Hid guns there. Brought the tarp into the Almeda house & hid it in the closet. Drove back to Moselle 80 mph & called 911. He went back up to the house & grabbed a shotgun & returned to the crime scene. When the police arrived, he had the gun, as an explanation for GSR on his hands. He will get away with this because of that town. A family member went to Almeda & got rid of the guns & clothing. If you check the timeline, this is all possible & well planned.
Yes & AM even said whoever did it planned it for awhile! He was talking about himself!
Are you an actual detective?
And how did he control the blood and tissue splatter? It doesn’t matter how much you cover up yourself blood, tissue & brain will land somewhere on your body!
The shotgun was located in Paul’s vehicle, along with an HDD rifle that “mysteriously” made its way back up to the main house after the murders (along with Paul’s truck being driven back up there) the Benelli was his but the black 300 blackout was Buster’s, Paul was just using it during turkey hunting season in Apri-May because he lost his camo one. Guessing that is the only one AM may have had access to without accessing Paul’s car. They regularly loaded shotguns with alternating buck and bird shots, I don’t think there’s any way to know whether (those empty bullet boxes SLED found in the trash) Paul had loaded the guns at some point himself or if AM did so that night after getting them out of Paul’s car. He wore the raincoat to cover himself during the shootings, washed himself off with the hose in the kennel, wrapped the blackout in the raincoat and put it in the suburban to take to Almeda where he hid it near the trees, then came back to retrieve it and dispose of it properly over the next few days. He wouldn’t have had to speed 80mph the whole way to Almeda, he just sped up significantly after he slowed to throw Maggie’s phone out of the window. I don’t think he will get away with the murders. Despite all that the prosecution has been unable to bring in as evidence of guilt, they’ve still managed to put together a solid case. The Snapchat video, the bloody smear of the shirt, the 20 seconds between arriving at the scene and calling 911, the blood on the steering wheel, too many things prove he lied when he would have no reason to if he was innocent. At best it might be a mistrial, but the state would just immediately attempt a new trial.
I think he put the guns in an Alameda shed where hecparked away from the house.
This guy acts like 1. You can't move shell casings. 2. You have any idea how the weapon ejects casings without the gun. 3. The bullets that hit the the pin def went thru maggie. 4. You can't shoot a gun in any position but standing.
I hope at lest one juror sees all this and can explain it to everyone.
Your talking to a jury that will think this is a bunch of bull
It's the same shooter just changing position and changing ammo to confuse the scene of the investigation.
Like U said MOVING FAST!!!!!!
So these planned shooters turned up and knew there would be a weapon available for each to use that they could find quickly, without being caught, by MM or PM. Sounds like a solid plan. They must've been hiding in the bush to know exactly when Pual and Maggie would be there also and when Alex was gone.
Yeah ridiculous,Cell phone evidence against him is huge
All done without any signs of forced entry. The entire thing is ludicrous.
I know that's the truth. ZZZ
Seems to be a huge reason to point to Alex, because who Else knew they were there during that little window of time... In addition, the cell phone records were deleted from his phone for the same time frame. And he was not afraid the same would happen to him or Buster . *He may have hired someone though, just like he hired someone later to shoot him. -C
and it could be that they had heard that day about Alex.s stealing and that was what set them off that night o get some revenge.
Absolutely RIDICULOUS to conjecture that a 5'2" - 5'3" person did the shooting! Why wasn't it suggested that the shooter was kneeling? Or doubled over to avoid being recognized??? The Prosecution has missed some valid, decisive points....
I think it was a revenge killing for Mallorys death. I think they went to kill Paul bc they knew his dad could get him off the hook and it pissed them off more
Trajectory evidence balls all the time
Two killers…says Alex’s “expert” witness. Probably why he used two guns.
This "expert" was a laughable joke. Truly unbelievable in every way. The more he talked the more ignorant he sounded.
He was utterly confusing.
Gotta love the "I dont need to test, i dont need expert training, I can use my common sense, it's like 9-1=8 it's just basic math"
Thats almost literally what he said. How was he not immediately kicked off the stand lol what a farce that was
Exactly
His company has a 1 star rating to boot.
No to anyone with a brain. I found him very credible and really shined the light on the lack of actual scientific investigation from the state.
BUSTER SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO TAKE THE STAND SINCE HE WAS PRESENT IN THE COURT, WAS ABLE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE WITNESSES. THIS IS A DOUBLE-MURDER CASE INVOLVING A VERY INFLUENTIAL FAMILY IN THEIR STATE.
they all sat in on the case both sides & its his mother and brother lol
I am in Australia, and I asked this question last week. In Australia, anyone who testifies is held in another room until called and they never hear what any other witness has said. This is the same in every English speaking country in the world except you know where so it seems.
I was wondering the same thing
Buster has had no emotion at all during the whole trial!
@@judypylant1570 It's almost like he's traumatized. 🤔🤷🏻♂️
The guy said he's a 'forensics engineer ' but has experience in materials, mechanical engineering only. The fact he worked with an ex-NASA that's very mechanical to do with automobiles and moving objects. Has a Masters in Mechanical engineering, structural, product which is capable of being 'explained and understood'. So basically he's here to explain what might have happened . That doesn't even cover 'crime scene, pathology, ballistics forensics but the defense is asking him like he an expert in all engineering fields. The prosecutor did a good job in exposing the fact that the guy has no qualifications that warrant his testimony on crime scene reconstruction. It's all supposition and probability-not fact.
Exactly
He is a forensics engineer.... Its math and engineering.... the crime scene was processed by similar individuals using math science and engineering sorry those are facts... I worked in civil engineering and used similar Cad tools. I am sure that his opinion was based in fact. I have done accident reconstructions and told investigators where to look for clues or parts and because of math predictions. His conclusions are just that conclusions based on the information supplied. SLED and the prosecution has not really done a good job here... The lawyer during cross examination was playing lawyer tricks not blowing holes in his theory if the Jury noticed that it maybe all but over for the prosecution. The prosecution has the burden and well i am not sure how i would vote but i am sure yesterday was a good defense day! PS Alex Murdaugh is a bad guy but not sure if he is a Murderer... I hope the prosecution can redeem itself. because if he is not the murderer then someone got away. I think he is probably guilty but yesterday was bad for the prosecution!
This is the most intelligent explanation of this expert witness’s purpose here.I agree with everything you said,hopefully the jury will absorb it well and not be derailed by the prosecution’s antagonistic,demeaning cross examination of this witness.
2 fire arms were used?
Yes and forensics simply applies to the legality of that experience. Not necessarily crime scene.
This family is the real life version of something like Breaking Bad or Ozark’s. The blows just keep coming one after another.
A taller killer could be sitting in a side-by-side ATV cart which would make the trajectory lower and also low one to have two guns at one time. AM’s not off the hook!
Or leaning across it, using it to stabilize his shots.
If there were two strangers on the property (who supposedly turned up less than four minutes before the murders) we would have heard the dogs in Paul’s video featuring Alex, going beserk? Bubba would have dropped the chicken and gone for the 5 ft 2 assassin? According to Paul’s video timing, minutes wouldn’t have been enough time for Alex to vacate the property completely. Anyone who hunts animals for pleasure has no heart imo, and we’ve already seen the family get away with incidents in which threats to them in some way lost their lives. The Murdaugh’s and their twisted crew need to be held accountable.
Good point. The dogs WOULD HAVE SENSED/SMELLED/HEARD the “unknown killer” lurking nearby for that 3 1/2 minute window and dogs WOULD have been going crazy!
@@atee6331 Exactly! Dead on! I’ve been watching this trial via RUclips, I’ve only read 2 comments relating to the dogs. Yours is the 2nd one. Amazed no one has yet mentioned the dogs 🐕 detecting any scent and/or unusual sounds coming from their surroundings would be key.
@@caroll6541 thanks! But it really was Gemma Boyd who mentioned the dogs and I was adding my thoughts to “he” spot-on points🙂. That’s what I replied to her ~ that she made a very good point since the murders happened in such a short window after all 3 were heard on the video at the kennels. Take care!
ehhhh dogs can be incredibly sensitive and detect that stuff and incredibly dumb at times too... if they are in a kennel to them its almost like their whole senses are removed cause they can see outside or smell and little noises sound big cause echo... a guy could be chilling off in thye bushes and those dogs may have never known... why do they even have to be near the kennels they have an AR15
@@HIGH_noon Bubba was out of his kennel and killing a chicken approx. 4 minutes before the murders; enough time for Bubba to be returned to the kennel by whoever was at the scene (and I doubt he would have let a stranger handle him when he was already riled up). According to the forensic pathologist the shooter was about 3 ft away from both victims before they were executed, so he / they had to have been in the kennels area. All of the dogs were locked up to protect them / so that they didn’t attack. Imo, the dogs knew the shooter: either Alex or one of his cronies who he got to do his dirty work. From the shocking revelations about the family I keep learning, Alex is definitely at the very least involved.
Alec is on the scene as caught in the video.
what does idiot AM say about WHERE HIS CLOTHES WENT???
Couldn't these trajectories be explained by Alex shooting from a crouched position, or shooting while raising the rifle? Just because he's 6'4" doesn't mean the rifle was shouldered when fired. He could have been hip-firing, for example. Or perhaps after dropping the shotgun, he quickly stooped to pick up the .300 rifle, firing while either raising it or standing back up.
They could also be explained by passing through a human body, human bodies ALWAYS change the trajectory of a bullet, even if just slightly. This dude's the worst engineer ever
@@ghostwalk2446 I would agree, but idk if .300 passes that cleanly through a body, even up close. But that is a question I would want answered if I were on the jury
@@Ayoosi I haven't seen the cross examination from the prosecution yet but I sure hope they asked
How about sitting in a golf cart
@SittingInDetroit The inly thing there is that the shell casings are all to the left of the cart as it's parked, but the .300 AR15 would eject those casings to the right, unless it was a left-handed upper receiver, which is rare. The State was asking about how common left-handed AR15s are so it seems like they had considered that.
I think Judge Newman's chair squeaking is off the rector ⚖️...1000 decibels!! 😆
Looks fancy, I’m not buying it. If Alec didn’t personally kill half his family he had them killed
Why else would Alex lie and say he never went down to see his wife and son before he left to go see his mother?????Don’t have to be an expert to know why
Especially since he convinced Maggie to come to Mozelle so they could visit his Dad in the hospital. -C
@@matthewkulp4913 Yes, there are just too many red flags. This is not innocent behavior in the least.
Those Karen’s don’t believe it
Alex squatted into the shooting position 4 the shot 2 b upwards! He was standing 4 the shot n the dog house from the shoulder He moves quickly as he does when hunting moving targets!!!!!!!!! Case closed!!!!!!
How do they know? All of these bullet holes are recent ?
He did his best to make it look like there were two killers by using 2 different guns but he told on himself by not pretending to be afraid that there was still a shooter on the loose the weeks following the murders. He's the one who killed his family. I have no doubt about that.
If there were two person you could bet your last dollar Alex payed him or a family member worried about the family name.
agree but he never stayed there after the murders stayed with other family members and carried a gun. He had something to do with but they need to investigate his drug ties unless he wanted maggs dead and had to make it look like paul from the boat accident that killed Mallory Beach.
he truthfully remorse over Paul Paul but can’t remember the last thing he would have ever said to his murdered wife is beyond belief. its obvious to get out of financial debt or pay drug dealers and suicidal depression not hatred of his family
So how about this for a scenario. The shooter shoots Paul in the chest the first time and Paul does not go down but instead steps forward towards the shooter. The shooter intern steps backwards and then falling over the threshold of the feed room and takes second shot from a ground position. This would be the Fatal shot that shot Paul in the head. Paul's brains were found at his feet. That means he was still standing before obviously falling to the ground
This is what I think. He tripped/fell backwards over the doorway step.
I think.this is what the prosecutor theorized
“It was just so bad. I did it so bad.”
“ He was such a good boy, too.l
@@dianealarcon8304 That's what I hear him say. It is what he's saying.
@@dianealarcon8304 "I did HIM so bad"
That could mean he did him wrong and feels guilt for not being there.
Forensic engineering is the investigation of structural failures and damage. It has nothing to do with crime scene reconstruction and analysis, which is very specialized training and education. There seems to be a question of what crime scene reconstruction and analysis this expert has. However, since he's been qualified in court as a shooting incidence reconstruction, he's an expert. However, unless he's conducted actual experiments involving tossing smartphones from moving vehicles and studying their motion after they hit the ground consisting of various surfaces, he's speculating regarding how far the smartphone travels before stopping.
The state has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt that Alex committed the murders. The state cannot leave any doubt that he was the shooter. The state has not done that.
Beyond a reasonable doubt leaves plenty of room for doubt. The doubt must be unreasonable, however, which is exactly the type of doubt this “expert” witness is offering up. His claim is unreasonable in light of the indisputable facts and evidence in this case.
Uhh…yes they did. Hence the very intelligent GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES verdict.
How can ANYONE OF AT LEAST NORMAL INTELLIGENCE have any doubt???
It should be against the law for them to have court in the same state known corruption is happening with favoritism of the murdaugh family and them being dynasty family of Lawyers. They should have sent neutral parties to handle this case. The way the attorneys are constantly shuffling papers and stuff is extremely unsecure if they were to shuffle the other attorneys paperwork with theirs smh I'm seeing so much unprofessionalism from this court and is the judge even awake lol I've never heard a judge so quiet with all the tomfoolery happening here. Just my opinion though.
Interesting comments 👍
I don t see any favoritisms. Murdaugh is being destroyed in court.
And you’ve tried how many cases?
You can't just change states. It ain't allowed.
I'm surprised the Prosecution didn't ask for a different/more neutral venue and jury.
1:10:02 ... is this funny during a double homicide case? The lead defense attorney pointing a gun at the prosecution table and saying "tempting"
Holy hell.. how was he not reprimanded for that?
It's been driving me crazy no one has even mentioned this!! Not even in the comments that I've seen until I came across yours! Lol
Standing for one victim, on bended knee for the other.
This defense attorney drives me crazy with his “duh, I don’t understand anything , show me “ pretense, when it’s quite clear shooter was on the golf cart…. GOD LEFT THAT CLUE ON MAGGIE’S LEG
lol@God... such idiocy!
@@lorivanderhaden2851 God is real!
Prosecutors are not proving beyond a reasonable doubt though and that’s their job
Does not that attorney look like AL Capon holding a machine gun. Lol
What’s important here is no one is denying Alex killed his wife and son but want to add another person was involved too. Well… that doesn’t fly based upon geo fence, cell phone data and tracking.
If Alex did not commit the crime of murder, he had to of had a part in it. Why, because he called her and son back to Moselle on pretense. My opinion.
Yes he called and asked Maggie to come back to see his Dad and they never went? And he was seen in Paul's Snapchat jist minutes before they were shot. Just sketchy. And after the guessed timing of when they were shot he happens to leave? There are just so many sketchy things.
I know one thing if my mom and brother were killed I would be crying my eyes up there on the stand this case has confused me from day one
1:15:39
Where was the extra strange Brother when this happened?
He has great depth into the physics of the interaction of spheres. Complicated but fascinating.!!!!!!!!
"Spheres"? What spheres?
To be quite honest, the whole family's corrupt. The victims are his clients. The people who he exploited. His family reaped all those rewards. All of them.
He hold a plastic or paper bag around the ejection port to catch the empty shell casings. Then he walked closer and planted them to throw the investigation off. He know police forensic techniques.
I like how he explains this as if bullet trajectory after passing through body parts has zero deflection
what about the shooter kneeling, or sitting on a golf cart..
Bullets do weird things when they hit anything
He was paid.
Two midget riflemen. I don't buy the trajectory of this "expert". Could have easily hit a bone and deflected. Or been kneeled down by the side by side. Also, he takes one of the nine buck shots and draws a line. But when they placed a diagram of the window, that shot was at the top. Most were about 18" down showing a much different angle from the "expert". I hope the prosecution picks up on that.
why didn't this "expert" throw a cellphone out of a car travelling 42 mph to test the prosecution theory? Instead spoke about bricks or rocks. Not credible to me. All razzle dazzle to confuse the jury.
wouldnt wind effect the audio acoustics??
When the officers who arrived on the scene 1st. ,asked about all the tire tracks, Alec said he rode n, n back out!!!!! LISTEN UP!!!!!!
How did Alex M know that it was more than one the same night it happened before the crime scene was investigated?
He didn't and doesn't. He just threw that lie out there.
@@barbarachieppo9603 AM did say “they” (the shooters) in his first interview after the murders.
He and onw other🙄
Because he'd been "thinking about it for a long time." The story he'd made up in his mind and the story he was sticking with, that is. Because only the killer would know that the killer "had been thinking about it for a long time." That's a great point that you made though. Looks like AM had a fantastic story all ready to go before he could have possibly found out that two guns had been used. No way he could have just taken a quick look at that scene and immediately thought that!
@@lynguy8824 🙃
So he left around noon for his office, he had more then enough time to place weapons close by and everything ready to go. What is sad about this is if he gets away with this is there a deal they are working on to wiggle out of the money stealing?
A 300 Blackout round doesn't have an offensive recoil so it's not supposed to leave a bruise on your shoulder BUT... a lot of ppl in the reviews have said theirs did for one reason or another. Imo that's why he aimed from the hip to prevent leaving a possible bruise. This was so premeditated I wouldn't be suprised if he'd been practicing shooting every which way to see the outcome. Those bullets are massive. I cannot imagine being hit with one of those. I think Paul lunged forward to try & grab that gun from his father. This monster deserves to forgo the death penalty & go straight to hell where he belongs.
Is it possible that people not knowing how to properly handle this kind of gun could sustain bruising?
Appropriately, he makes sure to put a lot of "maybes" in his testimony, because expert testimony and opinion of all different kinds in court cases can be so full of holes like Swiss cheese. getting it to apply specifically -in many cases, is something most of them don't even try to attempt. it simply adds to the wash. the jury can fold it in, or hang it out to dry. ❓✉ for 🎉🥂 or ⛓🔐
Is it possible this is the only travesty he did not commit????????
Never trust a forensic engineer who wears unkempt JC Penney suits
Should have at the least rented a nice one
How far apart were each shots fired?
I found this guy extremely credible and knowledgeable in his field!
This guy is WAY TOO SLICK. Talks and talks without the defense cutting him off. A No Confidence Vote for me.
I rest my case! I'm done. GOD will take care of all the rest!!!!! As with anyone, anywhere!!! PEACE OUT!!!!
He only increased his speed for a minute because he just threw Maggie's phone out and he high-tailed his ass away from the immediate area/crime scene and then drove normal /regular speed the rest of the way.
Now does the engineer know whether the defendants Vision at night has any impairments such as cataracts or the beginning of cataracts? And what exactly is the defendants Vision at this time with his glasses on?
Physics are a part of an investigation, not the only part if an investigation. I'm not buying into anything that was testified today. It's a weak defense so far, IMO.
Forensic Engineer..
Engineer litteraly means to create something from an idea..
So he creates his own forensic ideas..
Engineers are typically brilliant at math. All different forms of math. I think this was more than an idea.
shooting stance on one knee?
This witness is great at selling black magic.
Clearly the engineer presented 3 hard facts there prosecutor didn't want in evidence, as evidenced by their amount of blistering. The lawyer who cross examined the expert had a major temper tantrum that was distracting (exactly what he wanted to do) but did not actually discredit the expert witness.
I'm left wondering if Alex hired someone to shot them, though there's still no clear motive.
This expert is putting doubt that Alex was the shooter. According to his trigonometry expertise, the shooter of Maggie was most likely 5ft 2 to 5Ft 4. Most unlikely 6ft 4 , the height of Alex. As far as the sound testing that is only valid if Alex was indeed in the main house during the shooting..
That's what I said too... Does it matter what the decibels are, or whether he could hear it in the house, if he was Not in the house? -C
So this expert just stated that the crime scene was performed by sled and HE USED THOSE PICTURES- so why did harpoon try to emphasize that SLED contaminated the crime scene? I want to be on a jury so bad
JFC, I'm 6' and I could've easily fired from a different position, this is all bullshit.
I have faith that the jurors are more qualified in their duties, than this “expert” witness is in his.
These guys are on sale at Walmart.
Just like in the Kohberger case I find it SO difficult to believe these two "law men" could make so many stupid mistakes when committing their crime.
What men?
Who keeps hacking up a lung
Whoever 👀👀 the shooter was.... wanted to get close to the victims, victims had pissed the shooter off badly!, very personal.
The defense is going to have tell a different story.. but Why didn't he use a 6'4" example of the guy instead of 5'2"?? and was the ground level in that area?
Lol...yea. I reckon Alex probably shot from his hip to disguise his height, hence the bad initial shot.
Because where the shells were found near Maggie
Could not have been anyone 6’3 or 6’4
@@AHD2105 kneeling on 1 knee , perfect height from shoulder
@@sherryecline7387 kneeling on 1 knee?
Were the movements & activities & cars etc...of AM's brothers & Buster scrutinized closely?
How far apart were each shooter?
He learned his behaviors from his narcissistic father. They are cold, unfeeling and have no empathy! Paul was like this when he wrecked the boat in videos. Alex was like this at the murder scene, he spoke of Paul’s boat wreck more than the murder of his family! Buster learned it well!
Agree. The two of them on jailhouse recording talking about the $60,000.00 to pay off his re-entry into law school. AM just laughing about the conversations being recorded. Paul was laughing at the boat scene and Mallory's boyfriend went off on him. It was so horrible to hear her boyfriend wailing in pain and yelling at Paul to stopping laughing.
And let's not forget about the former housekeeper who died from "blunt force trauma" to the head while cleaning Murdaugh's home, or the friend of Paul and Buster who was found dead on the side of the road also with blunt force head trauma. Quite the body count
Monkey see monkey do
Wow!!! Apparently you hate this family.
Are you jealous they are wealthy?
Do not hate people because they are well off. Instead hate sin, and hating others is a sin.
@@ghostwalk2446 😮😮😮
What amazes me is how readily our justice system accepts people as experts. I say I am an expert in a non-validated field, therefore I am.
This guy is a littke boy showing off his computer program. Tape measure did exactly the same thing !
They are "experts" at confusing a jury. And they get paid about $10,000an hour for their preparation and testimony! The guy yesterday said he's getting $60,000 for his testimony.
Sort of like subjective tool markings on mass produced guns by government flunkies.
@@SS11660 $10,000 an hour. 🤣 shows how much you pay attention.
I think todays term for that is “I identify as” 🤦♀️ crazy how society is being led to believe they can identify as someone they clearly aren’t
how tall is buster?
Simple fact is that you don't have to be standing to shoot a gun. Just saying.
I don't think he did it. I think it's a revenge killing. I think someone wanted Paul dead for killing Mallory and they went to kill him bc they knew his dad could get him out of it
Exactly an I totally agree with this makes sense.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me. This trial is stretching it...absurd
So they did a knee shot
There is a serious flaw in this forensic engineer's judgement since he fails to consider that the shooter could have been kneeling on one knee. He only states a standing or prostrate position.
Hi we need higher resolution video. 360P isn't cutting it with the evidence diagrams and photos.