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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Bryan reacts to and talks about his thoughts on Comfortably Numb
ORIGINAL VIDEO: • Comfortably Numb
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I never thought of Floyd as “Prog”... just Pink Floyd... their own genre
Completely agree, Jeff Diefenbach. I personally believe there are elements of prog throughout Pink Floyd's works from their beginnings through to The Wall. Some songs have more elements than others. But either way, I think Pink Floyd are unto themselves and can't really be put into any category cleanly and succinctly-other than being musical geniuses who created masterpiece after masterpiece. I understand the interest in discussing PF and I'm all for it, I just don't think they can be labeled with any one category.
The fact they can be considered their own genre is proof they're prog. Prog isn't a genre, it's a mindset and approach, and Pink Floyd are a part of that.
For me "Shine on you crazy diamond" is the song that I choose every time when answering the question "Choose a song which you'll take on a desert island".
Any song from The Wall can't be listened apart from others, I think, you need to listen to full album to understand and feel "Comfortably Numb" fully.
I even have Dark Side vinyl (but have no vinyl player yet, lol). One of the greatest.
Comfortably Numb isn't a very progressive song, it's a fairly conventional (though beautiful) rock ballad. I think you're probably the first commentator who I've heard say that, and I agree.
The Wall is a prog album, though. And that's a key point.
I don't think you can listen to just one song from The Wall and get a full appreciation of it. The Wall was conceived as a single continuous piece of music and the songs should be heard in that context, not just because of giving the lyrics more meaning but in also terms of appreciating recurring musical themes etc. It's like listening to just Ode to Joy. Yes, it's a nice song in itself, but you're missing so much if you're not hearing it in the context of the entire 9th symphony. (Having said that, Pink Floyd commonly played Comfortably Numb stand-alone in concert, so maybe they disagree. But they're playing to an audience who already know the context.)
The Wall is most definitely not a prog album. It's a concept album, a rock opera maybe, but the music itself is way too conventional to be considered prog.
@@yesok2522Art Rock is the right term here, I’d say.
Being a life long Floyd fan I can undoubtedly say Rick Wright is absolutely the unsung hero of the band. His atmospheric textures and synth use absolutely MADE their music.
The problem with lifting a song from the album, is that it loses its identity, its context within the story. The Wall is a story told over a big double album which needs to be heard as a whole. It is like listening to one verse of a normal song and thinking you understand the song from that. It is certainly progressive, but within the context of the story as a whole. The live version of this is much longer with the guitar solo carrying on for 5 or 6 minutes... often cited as the greatest guitar solo of all time. Listen to Money from Dark Side Of The Moon for a different feel.
cited as the best of all time by people who love bends a little too much.
That’s the “bad” thing about Prog music and concept albums. Taking songs individually doesn’t give the song its full due. I feel Bryan ran into this in a previous Prog week. Although enjoyable The songs didn’t “click” or felt outta place.
@@Isaiah_McIntosh And then there are people who don't have a clue what they're talking about and still comment
@@Isaiah_McIntosh WOWOWOWOW. Stop there. David Gilmour is probably God himself if were being honest here. I love technical prog, but he never wrote an imperfect solo. Its effortless.
@@swingonthespiral I just dont like his solos. Floyd has some great music but gilmour/Gilmore has never inspired me as a player or listener. It is what it is.
Never listen to this Pink Floyd song without watching the Pulse concert. Live is the best way to see and hear Floyd.
Disagreed. The studio production is a big part of the magic of Floyd.
Is this song prog? Eh not really. It's on very famous concept album. If you want prog from Pink Floyd. You need Echoes or the album Animals. Trust me.
To elaborate further: telling someone pink Floyd is prog and showing them comfortably numb or another brick in the wall part 2 (without the rest of the wall) is like telling someone genesis is prog and showing them Land of Confusion or telling them Yes is prog and handing them the album 90125.
You’re right. Phantom of the Opera stole a riff from Echoes. You know you’re progressive when people start using your stuff
Your elaboration is spot on
The live version of "A Saucerful of Secrets" (Ummagumma) rewrites the definition of "PROG."
Personally, I would say their Piper At The Gates of Dawn is their most obviously prog album.
Plus, listening to it has this word effect for me where I seem to get a bit of a contact high just from listening to it, it's that trippy.
Nice Reaction:
1966 Pink Floyd was highly experimental, psychadelic and proggy, this song is from an album that was narrative driven, as part of a rock opera called The Wall created in 1979. The experimentation was over, they figured it out, lol.
To your point about the final solo continuing forever; well...live versions has that closing solo go on forever and quite spectacularly. A must see.
Brian : *Reacts to Genesis and Yes's masterpieces, both 20+ minutes long.
Me: yeaah he is going to react to echoes , its 23minutes and its one of Pink Floyd's masterpieces!
Brian : conformably numb mate
I was actually surprised to see it being so short. I'm not sure what Pink Floyd averages for song length but after this week I was expecting 20+ minutes for these last two bands.
@ Critical Reactions
Why take a crumb for the whole thing?
The Wall is an OPERA which takes place in 26 acts:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall#Plot
... and lasts 81 minutes.
What at the time could be inserted in a double vinyl:
m.ruclips.net/p/PLyDzU3p8FP24syYfTXpGqTDHsQhlxwllS
The product for showbusiness (live in Pulse) is quite different ... the "precooked" for a world of almost "decerebrate" consumers.
@@CriticalReactions He nailed it with Echoes. This is the song to listen to. Meddle was arguably their peak as a prog band.
@@CriticalReactions you need to watch, review comfortably numb from the pulse concert. You get the full end solo by Gilmour in all its glory.
You should react to echoes.
Its 23 minutes.
23 miutes short!
Yes. That's actually prog!
The wall isn't really prog.
The dark side of the moon (song - time) is more "prog"
It has amazing layering and deep meaning.
more "concept", isn't it?
@@mana3735 Nah, its just more Psychedelic.
@@pascalg16 Psychedelic? Nah...is it fuck! Syd Barrett's Floyd were more psychedelic.
@@mana3735 indeed it's certainly not psychedelic and barely prog. Art Rock perhaps.
@@jonnykhatru yup.
I just stumbled on your channel and I like what you are doing so far. As others have said this song in itself is not a very prog song. But at this point in Pink Floyd's discography they were doing concept albums. The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and Dark Side of the Moon are all albums to be heard in full. Each one is based around a full story or theme/themes. I will say that you did hit on their contribution to the genre. They have always been about atmosphere. I would even go so far as to say that they and bands like The Moody Blues are kind of forebears of the Prog genre The band goes back to the late 60's and started during England's psychedelic era and because of that, they always were able to build very lush productions. Someone suggested echoes, which is a great way to get where they are coming from. And if you want a really good track Great Gig in the Sky (off of Dark Side) is just amazingly emotional. As far as other bands in prog I'm not sure if you got tEmerson, Lake and Palmer, but they were a huge prog band. Good luck, and enjoy
If you are looking for some of the elements of 70s prog rock that continue into today's progressive rock you've made some less than optimal choices.
For Genesis, Supper's ready is one of their best loved works, but its a fairly early work from before some elements of their full on progressive writing had developed. You will find more elements of prog rock on display in something like Firth of Fifth from the following album. In particular, the steadily progressive changes of mood to tell a story - Supper's Ready is like a suite of several songs, played without a break. Try Dance on a Volcano from the mid 70s if you want to see all the elements you were expecting on full display.
For Jethro Tull, Thick as a Brick was more a display of humour than anything else. You might find the carefully constructed songs of the Aqualung album display more of what you were expecting to find in prog rock.
For Yes, Close to the Edge is a pretty reasonable choice to see what their progressive side was about.
Comfortably Numb is another "one of their best loved works" choices, but its not really progressive at all. The concept albums are where they displayed their progressive and experimental elements to the full. Don't worry about the length of an album. Most are split into many songs of modest length, and each of them can be tried on its own.
I only agree on Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb beeing more of a "popular" than a "progressive" choice. All the other three have had huge impact and defined new musical paths. And that's what being progressive in music is all about. (Time changes is NOT the sole definer of progressiveness Brian 😉)
The Wall is a concept album
Your initial “hello” made me laugh because of your song choice. Was expecting a joke but wasn’t sure if you’ve heard this before.
Anyways, I’ve come to love Pink Floyd. I knew who they were and their importance but hadn’t listened to them really until I met my fiancé. She LOVES them. She introduced them to me properly. It’s been really because I love some older Prog she listens to (mostly PF) and she’s interested in some of the newer Prog I enjoy! Interesting seeing older influences trickle into newer stuff whether it’s intentional or not.
Thanks for the video!
I understand where you are coming from. Pink Floyd were a psychedelic band, turned “space rock” band, turned Mega huge and quite awesome arena show band. They didn’t really do anything particularly complex in terms of time signatures, but did produce one of the most popular rock songs of all time in 7/4 (money). What they really were were a group that knew how to write music you want to sit in a dark room with headphones on and lose yourself in. If you haven’t listened to this band much before, then you need to listen to Dark side of the Moon in its entirety. And then the next three albums the same way. Maybe not as reactions, but just for yourself. Genius stuff. Not complicated, just awesome songs with great lyrics and a lot of space between instruments and parts. And of course David Gilmour who is one of the best Guitarists of all time, even though he couldn’t play fast. Didn’t need to.
Just saw your videos with Genesis and Yes. As a musician myself, I enjoy your insightful analysis. Immediate subscriber. Usually I'm hesitant but great stuff
Back in the early 70s I started to buy the albums of Progressive rock bands, such as King Crimson, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd etc. I also went to see them in concert. So did my friends. No one really used the term Prog Rock at that time, it was always Progressive rock (there was a certain pretentiousness to it) , and progressive rock bands usually produced concept albums, which was pretty much how progressive rock bands were defined at the time by the music buying public (The musical press like the NME hated it). Many rock bands were experimenting at the time, such as Zep, so that was not really a defining factor that I heard people use. Organs certainly, but not exclusively.
The only music definitions that are relevant are those used at the time by the music fans. This is a song by a progressive rock band from a concept album and is therefore a progressive song. That is how it was defined at the time. All the later definitions and musical compartmentalisations are BS and are intended to imbue the speaker with the appearance of musical knowledge. Progressive rock could be pretentious in the 70s, but it was never anything like the pretentious crap you hear these days about music. Modern 'definitions' are irrelevant.
I first saw floyd as a support group. I may be old but i got to see some really great groups and listen to meddle...ALL OF IT 🤘
Pink Floyd was a band that changed their sounds as they progressed- if you want “prog” try Astronomy Domine from their first album in 1967 call Piper at the Gates of Dawn
I prefer the live version on Ummagumma.
thanks for the honesty in almost-instantly letting us know you recognized the song before.(even though after the song you clarified that you dont remember it all, the way you approached that reasoning on-the-spot i think is good insight into your reasoning in general. i agree with your opinion about them being prog. i had never heard anybody call them prog before and was surprised when i heard that because i had never considered that before
edit: in a sense, the 'emotive' rockish ballads seem to be this thing that transcends genres. no matter what type of music you enjoy, you will have a hard time finding someone who doesnt enjoy alot of these songs. like this and many other greats. usually thats a sign of too much of a general tilt to want to apply to the biggest audience possible. but it seems with some of these emotive rock ballads that, that rule doesnt apply. (well as frequently as i see with other styles of music) it seems to capture the raw emotion to hit an audience that anybody can appreciate, but isint too generic\bland to where it just sits unnoticed in a river of similar sounding music. i guess, in a sense, its technical enough to appeal to musicians while also being 'easy listening' enough so almost anyone can follow along and likely find something they enjoy.
sorry for the rant and id be welcome to hear if anyone has any more insight or alternate perspectives on these ideas
- tldr (for the song related stuff) - i believe there is a balance between 'technical' and 'emotive' writing where it seems that the higher the skill\barrier-to-entry, the harder it is to portray emotion. i understand thats a pretty general statement with alot of exceptions and varies depending on a massive amount of factors and each instrument being wildly different in that matter. but, some stuff just seems to 'land' better then other stuff, no matter how unexplainable and unpredictable it may be. im inclined to tilt towards an emotive\soul angle as the main cause
The Wall was released in 1979. Prog had already become a dirty word as the prog bands had been labelled as pretentious dinosaurs. Punk rock, disco, etc. were in fashion. So the prog bands tended to simply their music. Surprisingly Pink Floyd released this double concept album in this context. Althoug it was very risky, they entered the charts. Imho "Comfortably numb" is prog adapted to the new situation: it is pop-rock if we only look at it as a song; but it comes from a concept album, so I think of it more as a "movement" or "passage" of a longer musical piece. Also it is true that we could find pop songs in very important prog albums of the late 60s and early 70s (e.g. "I know what I like", the single from the "Selling England by the pound" album by Genesis, released in 1973 -Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett era-).
I'm glad that now "prog" is not a dirty word anymore (perhaps since "OK computer" by Radiohead was labelled as "progressive"). It was sad to see such experimental bands being despised. Fortunately they're now vindicated. I think that we are very lucky to have so many different musical genres and styles to choose from; there's music for every moment and situation, and if we are clever enough we can enjoy all of them.
Thank you for your interesting reveiews. Stay safe!
I think you would have gotten a better feel for the band if you had landed on Shine on You Crazy Diamond. I would also recommend Money and Dogs- Thanks for the reaction-
Check out Echoes live in Pompeii 1972. Awesome.
The Wall isn't just a concept album, it's also a movie :) Be sure to watch it!
I think many commenters saying that the prog aspect for The Wall is in the narrative driven nature of the album, and not in particular songs. Though the use of music and effects to convey narrative elements was definitely something they pioneered in rock.
That section where the lead guitar + china/snare hit those stabs together in the ending solo and you get sucked into the pulse has always been my favourite part of this song.
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This is fantastic! Thank you.
This came out in 79 and the band was in its most conceptual songwriting period thanks to bassist/singer Roger Waters who was doing the majority of writing. This song was a monster radio hit. The albums The Wall, The Final Cut and even Waters first solo album The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, which was first offered to Floyd, were heavy on shorter songs that flowed one into the next and built around a theme.Their prog period would have been 68 to 77, containing probably the greatest of prog albums Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here and Animals. All prog masterpieces.
Floyd were the masters of musical soundscapes.Outside of David Gilmour on guitar, they were very good but not monster musicians. This allowed/forced them to create music that relied on brilliant arrangements full of musical layers. Saxophones. Female vocals. Musique concrete. This is what made them the most different sounding prog band of that era.
I agree on them beeing a groundbreaking force in (then) modern music. "Most different sounding prog band" is a bit like stating who's "the most unique child".... The whole point of the movement was being original and most bands really succeeded in creating unique styles. If I had to choose a band for purely the level of originality I'd go for e.g. Magma, Gentle Giant or King Crimson.
@@progperljungman8218 I agree. My use of the word "different" was a poor choice. Successful may have been a better choice.
@@visualanimal5634 Yeah! When it comes to commercial success noone beats Pink Floyd among prog bands!
I far prefer Shine on you crazy diamond. Music to lose yourself in!
Early Floyd were a highly experimental psychedelic band, very influential in Krautrock music and some songs can still sound quite off-putting today. When Syd Barrett left they smoothed out the edges a ton and became a really refined artsy rock group. Their experimentation was mostly with album format and detailed studio production, they were never interested in pushing music on a technical / performance level. They were a blues band at their core in many ways.
The proggiest they ever got was probably with Wish You Were Here and Animals since those have epic-length songs. However they're still a far cry from stuff like Yes or King Crimson. Animals is fantastic and any of the three 10+ minute tracks would be a great listen.
Excellent analysis of Pink Floyd and where they fall on the prog meter compared to some of their immediate peers. Very much a british blues rock band HEAVILY cloaked in psychedelic textures. I agree also in the fact that ANYTHING off of The Wall can’t well be taken out of context unless you know the entire album very very well. I’ve heard the entire album and researched/studied it countless times over the years so I can pull a random track and love it. But you can’t really start with a random on one.
At any rate. Carry on
also songs on the wall album are pretty good songs on their own but when you hear in context within the album they get to a whole new level
This song in particular isn't very proggy, but it is on a double-disc concept album that was made into one of the trippiest movies ever. Pink Floyd were so OG they started as a psychedelic band, the genre that prog grew out of. Of all the classic prog bands I'd say they evolved the most from their origins. They were also the band that probably drifted the farthest away from classic/traditional notions of both rock and prog. They're practically their own genre. One way to think about them is as a very, very early precursor to what would become post-rock, especially given their emphasis on atmosphere/mood. They also somehow achieved massive popularity with the Dark Side of the Moon album, this track, and Another Brick in the Wall pt. 2. It's almost a rite of passage to get high and put on Dark Side of the Moon (perhaps synced up with The Wizard of Oz) or the film-version of The Wall. They were never instrumentally or compositionally virtuosic in the way Crimson, Yes, or Rush were.
FWIW, this is one of my all-time favorite songs. The guitar solo in this (both of them, but especially the second) never fails to give me chills, and in the right mood it can easily make me cry. David Gilmour had an uncanny ability to ring so much emotion out of just a few notes, or the right bend at the right place. Plus his tone is so pristine and damn near inimitable. I think what you're describing emotionally is a kind of depressive apathy. This album/song is very much about the depression and disillusionment that comes with becoming a star and feeling disconnected from the audience and other people, hence the metaphorical "wall" that the character puts up between himself and others. Personally, I'm more mixed on PF than the other classic prog bands; I love some of their stuff and don't care for others, but when they hit they tend to hit hard.
I really enjoy your videos. Thanks. Zappa....you need to do some Zappa. Inca Roads would be a good start.
For my taste, looking for particular 'prog' elements in a song in order to label it prog is antithetical to the concept.
If you take The Wall as a whole, though more of a Rock Opera, you could consider it Prog. The problem is that each track as a standalone tells just a bit of the story.
In the story of the Wall, our Hero, who is on Your, calls his Lady at home, and a Man answers the phone. He is Crushed! He destroys his room and himself. His Manager comes and gives him a shot of Something so he can perform. Context is everything. The live concert version is Iconic. I have run a follow spot at these shows and the crowd is mesmerized!
Echoes live at Pompeii adds some extra visual seeing the guys back in 1972
Yes on the adding atmosphere to lyrics. I would call them an art rock band rather than a prog rock band. They don't play to show off chops but always to add to the piece.
dude you gotta react to shine on you crazy diamonds a really magnificent song cant really put it into words how beautiful it is
you should have listened to either the whole Dark Side of the Moon album or if one song only, then Echoes !
I would love to hear more reactions to The Dear Hunter. One of my favorite bands and you wanted to do more of a deep dive after the songs you reacted to.
TDH is in the poll for next week (I think) so there's a chance of seeing it soon.
What I think you would have found more informative would have been if you went right back to their beginnings and listen to "Astronomy Domine" or "Interstellar Overdrive" from "Piper at the Gates of Dawn". These tracks when I first heard them on a newly released album so long ago defined a new and fascinating direction in music for me.
Keep in mind the era when this came out. There was really nothing like this album that made it with any great success. It was unheard of back then to make an album such as this and expect significant success in the main stream field of Rock at that time. This is one reason some consider it progressive.
Good reaction.
Like everyone else is saying....if you want prog masterpieces from Pink Floyd, try Echos or Shine on you crazy diamond!! Amazing tracks
Hey found another song, so far, u reacted to that I already know, lol(aside from Nina Hagen)(and a few others, but luv all the mostly new to me stuff). Seen em(both) live. And remember this song in particular was sooo frighteningly beautiful and uhmazing, the whole experience was beyond. Very cool react, cheers🌿
The pulse concert with this is brilliant.
I have been a Pink Floyd fan for 50 yrs.
I ‘m afraid not interested what it is& break down what type of song it is etc etc, it’s just simply genius ❤🙏
I think with your experience in music you will really enjoy their song 'Time'. Both the vocals and instruments blend perfectly to create a masterpiece
The think with Pink Floyd is you have to listen to any given album from start to finish. Like others have said, this is one small piece of a very long album. Also, definitely check out the albums Animals, Whish You Were Here, & Dark Side of the Moon. Great albums, but listen to them in their entirety please, it is the only way to truly appreciate them in my opinion.
They genre called pink floyd, They was there b4 genre creation my friend
Pink Floyd is it's own experience. I completely understand what your saying. If I myself was a composter of music, I would understand your point of view 💯. I'm not so all I can do is respect your point of view as a experienced music composer. You did open my eyes, or ears. I'm gonna try to listen deeper in there music.
Would be great to see you react to Renaissance - A Song for All Seasons
Some truly beautiful classic prog rock flirting with classical music, and their singer is truly amazing
This is more mainstream Floyd. Older Floyd is absolutely prog rock. Check out Echos or Shine On You Crazy Diamond , these songs are prog. You will love them!
Nice reaction and I would suggest if you can't listen/react to The Dark side of the Moon in it's entirety (as it should be) then I would highly recommend the track Time from the same album. All the best from the far north of New Zealand.
They're definitely prog. Listen to songs like Mother, Money, Shine On You Crazy Diamond and you'll hear it a lot more.
The second solo is just orgasmic lol. It is so creative how many different subdivisions of picking he does. Slow sustained notes, faster moments of shred and it all meshes together so well without feeling like its jerking between the two. You should definitely listen to the full album in your own time if you have to so you can enjoy this in its full context while first impressions are still fresh. The album has so many smooth style shifts just like modern prog it really was ahead of its time. Also the live version is a must.
Max Maidment oh hello! Fancy meeting you here!!! 🤪
@@JimNewstead hello there... o¬o
Adult Composer/Musician in 2020 listening to Floyd for the first time. Listen to this the way it was supposed to, as an album. As a musician, invest the time to learn what has come before. It's easier to build something grand if you have a ladder.
The music in this song could tell the story without words!
Check out some early stuff like "Take up thy stethoscope and walk, saucerful if secrets, etc totally different, even mid stuff like on the album meddle, pre dark side of the moon stuff. Like a lot of progressive bands they became more mainstream later in their career.
Rick Beato did a great “What Makes this Song Great?” Episode on this song. He got the original multi-track recording and took it apart, piece by piece. Give that a gander! It’s amazing.
Too bad you didnt check out the live version of Pulse 94! Anyway great reaction, cheers
I really think "dogs" is without a doubt their best prog song.
Do checkout 'High Hopes' by them, from the album Division Bell. Beautiful ambience and instrumentation...
You should've listened to the live from 1994. The guitar solo at the end is just the best. Somehow I prefer the live versions both by Pink Floyd and David Gilmour solo. It always brings more edge out.
Also the Gilmour version with Bowie on the verses and Crosby & Nash on background vocals are amazing.
Animals album is their real proggy stuff also their early experimental stuff is proggy.
I'll recommend Grendel (Fair Deal Studios Version) by Marillion
Well, I prefer the proper version,
If not the 1983 live at the reading festival one.
I've always felt the same way about Pink Floyd. Their best work is pretty orthodox stuff, harmonically and rhythmically, without any really virtuosic playing. When I try to analyze it, it's hard for me to put my finger on why those albums sound so grand--what elevates Pink Floyd above most other bands. I guess it boils down to good songwriting and the fact that the players all had really good judgement. (Those albums were also recorded extremely well, especially when compared to most other recordings of the day). The Gilmour guitar solo is emblematic of that quality. It's simple and unambitious, but with each note he delivers exactly what's needed.
I highly recommend not judging anything about Pink Floyd before understanding the Concept of the Band and about this Song “Comfortably Numb” you need to see the film and hear the whole album, then your opinion is gonna be better.
The Wall is a thing you must listen as a whole from start to finish to understand it. Also everyone needs to see the movie "The Wall".
For me, the prog in Pink Floyd comes hard and fast on the Animals album.
To see how pink floyd is prog, you often have to listen to and analyze them on the scope of the album since oftentimes if you look at an individual song it has sort of a pop rock feel, particularly when it comes to their more well known tracks
how can any human being not love this song???
It gets boring and some general unfair antagonism towards it because of how much hype is thrown it's way. I enjoy this song but god help me if I hear someone say the best solo of all time again. It's obviously upper echelon stuff but geeze.
@Mayo Dog meh I prefer Pompeii honestly. Not a longtime Floyd fan though
@@Isaiah_McIntosh Well i don’t think the studio version is the best guitar solo ever, but the live versions (most famously PULSE) definitely....but each to their own opinion of course. Out of curiosity, what would you label as some of the best solo's of all time?
I'm a prog lover. I love tool, mastodon, king crimson, gojira. Just all things prog.
Idk if pink floyd is prog in the most technical sense, but it doesn't stop them from being my favorite band of all time. I know every word to every song. And that's saying something cause some of it wasnt even that good in the early days.
Would love to see you react to some August Burns Red. Everlasting Ending is one of my favorites ;D
You have to remember that Comfortably Numb as part of a "prog rock musical". By the time this song comes along on the album, we already know this character's back story and why he's comfortably numb.. Also, this was the last album that this lineup recorded before Roger Waters left the band. Their early stuff was *way* more prog. Listen to the whole album. Watch the movie, even! :-) Also, if you want rock with orchestrals, listen to the Moody Blues album, "Days of Future Passed", which was the first rock album with an orchestra.
I've seen countless laser light shows at our planetarium, and they play the Wall and Dark Side from front to back. The improv effects and accompanying visuals that relate to the album were always different and always insane. Definitely hard to just listen to a fragment of the bigger story. PS Listen to The Great Gig in Sky from Pink Floyd just because.
You’re already spoke about yes genesis know Pink Floyd I love that younger people are finally recognizing the absolute musical talent of all these groups when music was music and then as the other band Emerson Lake and Palmer which had unbelievable shows and you’re not familiar with them obviously but that’s all right then you have Jethro Tull which was progressive Folkey very Celtic great storytelling but absolutely one of the greatest bands of this style especially the fact that Ian Anderson was a front man and he played the flute so please check out these bands you can’t compare them with today’s music it’s different I understand that every era has the music and music is subjective to everybody so everybody’s not gonna like the same Music but when I hear these young kids trashing the stuff they leave and have an a clue because they don’t understand music all they know is especially with the corporate wrapping sampling they were playing instruments anymore it’s all computerized these guys were true powerful influential groups and I’m just talking about the groups from England and America and other places
Ditto, Pulse live 94 is the way to appreciate many PF songs. (CN, Sorrow, Brick, Run Like). Then DSOM, Welcome Machine studio is amazing. Consider Gilmors solo Momentary Lapse, Division Bell and Waters Solo Radio Kaos, Pros/Cons of hitch hiking w/ tom scott and eric clapton. are epic on their own. As good as the wall is, some tracks i just fly by in reactions b/c other versions like pulse are so good, I just move on. FInd Pulse - Lights, Prod Quality, Equip tone. Sometimes, it all comes together in one tour event, but I get many want to start with orig studio even though its early to mid 70s. Many epic master pieces like Dire Straights LP #1, #2 Communique my fav. Serious good music. Nothing like money for nothing. Its hard core start, killer voicings and melodies. Like a good BBQ, Low and Slow.
I remember Frank Zappa was asked if Pink Floyd were progressive and he gave a reserved "sometimes". Plenty of fade outs in the 70's.
I don't know if its to late to suggest a song for BLACK METAL WEEK, but you should do MGLG (magwa, Polish for mist) Exercises In Futility VI. They are by far one of the top bands in the genre right now. You will not be disappointed
@Critical Reactions
Have you tried Laurie Anderson? She invents her own instruments.
Here's O Superman:
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Another great one to check put is Jean Michel Jarre. Here is "Oxygene":
ruclips.net/video/ttpPIRnEFVE/видео.html
I love people who have such unique sounds in their head that they must create new instruments in order to share them with the world. I'll definitely look into Laurie Anderson.
Great song! I'm going to suggest some (more) modern prog rock songs:
Stardust We Are - The Flower Kings
Methuselahs Children - Moon Safari
The Invisible Man - Marillion
I agree, The flower kings deserves a listen. I like more "the truth will set you free", but whatever.
You should really react to the husk by rings of Saturn at some point. It’s very guitar oriented technical death metal. Those guys are technical legends
And that gravity blast beast is quite impressive!
I'd like to see you react to Cardiacs, I'd recommend R.E.S, since it's probably one of the most band-defining song they've made, that said, everything they've done is great, so you could really do anything, but my recommendation is R.E.S!
Thanks!
Very interesting and honest reaction. Well put though, it may not be a prog song in its purest sense, but it is mostly definitely one of the defining gateway songs into prog. I’m certain there are hundreds and thousands of people who got into prog through this song, then into Wall, and Pink Floyd (both of which are prog staple), and then to the whole prog universe. Also, this song is also a gateway to a state of mind that prog gets you into, a taste of it for a beginner. Hence for that reason, this song has always been a part (an been an important part) of the prog conversation.
I think your right about time being an issue back in the day they were very progressive/ psychedelic and laid the ground for those to follow so in a way it's like someone very young saying " Elvis is not Rock & Roll" ( I'm not a Elvis fan but the vocal in jailhouse rock Wow!)
It is by a prog rock group, but as the writer of the whole of the Wall, it was rock opera! and that in itself was enough as it was/is!
What song would you recommend in the wider world of rock that meets your high expectations??
Also...you really need to watch the "pulse" version.
Prog or not Prog is not the question. Good or not good music is the only question!
If you listen to the hole album The Wall. It’s definitely Prog, but if you listen to any of the song from that album one there own. It’s definitely not Prog. That is the home point of the album the wall.
Good Question to me Pink Floyd was a psychedelic band, who had 3 or 4 prog albums and then went back to just classic rock. To me meddle, dark side of the moon, wish you were here, and animals are prog album the Wall is classic rock and anything else after that is classic rock.
Classic 1970's prog artists are not ground breaking on every song. Sometimes a relatively simple composition is part of a suite or concept album, and taken in the context of the larger work it can be a critical part of the whole. A given song might be included to convey a thought or feeling that is best expressed with a plain or traditional song structure. Nonetheless to me this is prog because of the atmospherics, concept, and great guitar solo. That's enough to put it in the realm of prog.
It's straight up a crime that you didn't listen to the live at pulse 1994 version. It's better as a whole and it has the greatest guitar solo ever played.
Please do Echoes sometimes, the whole composition..
I agree. Great song, amazing guitar solos, but not prog, and that's totally fine. It does a great job at what it's aiming to do. Pink Floyd definitely has proggier songs and albums. Check out the Animals album. Love the song Dogs off it.
And Sheep too
You just did a 20 minutes explanation about how it feels being high, yes you got the song right.
This is one of their greatest songs, but I do agree with you that it does lack proggy elements. Regardless it's still a great song and I enjoyed seeing your reaction/analysis of it!
You should definitely find time to sit through The Wall. You might find a few songs on there that are quite familiar to you...
Come on guy, don't tell me you really never listened to this song before.
He owns up around 02:29
He straight up says he knows them 30 seconds in but he doesn't seem to know the song from the title. Only once the chorus hits does he start to recognise the song and he says so. But he's obviously not intimately familiar with it.
Good 70's Prog...
Goblin - Suspiria
Pink Floyd - Dogs reaction would be great