This VMAX Project Is Going HORRIBLY WRONG!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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Pick up a cheap Vmax, they said, what could go wrong, they said. EVERYTHING! As it turns out, everything went horribly wrong with this vmax build.
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Interesting to watch Spite's slow descent into madness.
Dear God what have we done? In my defense it was right before Christmas & I was feeling generous.
This is exactly why when I see "Was running when parked" I nope the hell out of there. I'm sure it's going to be stunning once it's finished & you'll have a bike that's practically hand built by Spite & nothing feels better than that.
Hindsight is 20/20, but now that I have it, it's going to be awesome. And I'm enjoying the build.
this, right here is what keeps me going on my project. Not many 82 Honda nighthawks in my area let alone running ones.
@@drakeb6168 Which Nighthawk? Here in Australia Honda slapped the Nighthawk name on every CB made in the 80's, from the 250 to the 750 & the 250's are as common as Roo Poo.
This is what keeps me away from my '91 250cc Suzuki Bandit & its 4 tiny carbs that need syncing & tuning in a single leaky garage with 4 other bikes & no power in winter. And right now it's winter & we're getting rain every weekend. Yikes!
Fortunately I'm moving to a place with a much better garage next week so I can really get stuck into it then. Hopefully I can get it on the road in time for some spring mountain riding this year.
@drakeb6168 I had a nighthawk S 2 years ago, after getting it running and doing brakes and tires, I stepped back and looked at what was left to do to make it nice, and I sold that for a loss just so it wasn't a major loss years down the road
Those things were so quick back in the day - well, they still are. Haha
Note to self: do not under any circumstances buy someone else's project bike/a bike that has sat for over a decade.
What ?! You mean they abandoned it because they were so close to being done and just couldn't emotionally admit the project was complete... That isn't the reason?
That is the description of essentially every bike I buy and I don't think I've ever lost money one one. He's replacing lots of unnecessary parts and bought a poor example.
He was gonna flip it.... New brakes ? That the marks problem... Come on man, maybe flipping isn't for you it you have any morals.
@ellwoodwolf I have quite high morals and have sold over 75 bikes with zero complaints. A master cylinder generally doesn't need to be replaced, they can be rebuilt inexpensively. I would imagine there were good, used rotors for sale on ebay for less than $200. The tank could have been cleaned, a radiator shop likely would have done it cheap although I've never needed to do that. Etc etc. Ultimately I wouldn't have bought that bike because you're almost never going to make much money flipping a bike with 70,000 miles.
to work and a project vmax is a dream of mine, definitely gonna do what you're doing sometime in the near future. Please document every step so I can learn from you.
For a Vmax full refurb that's honestly not very expensive for all you've done so far. Old bikes are not cheap to do properly!!
At least they still make VMax parts! My 84 VF1100 Sabre has been a slow work in progress for 11 years, and everytime i think it's finally done, I find that a part I bought/rebuilt (carbs, diaphragms.) oh the joys of having a cool unique bike!
I bought a broken down 93 Vmax thinking it was a good investment last year. Now, after carb rebuilds, coolant leaks, upgraded brakes, and so much more, I will never be able to sell it and make my money back. And I’ll be honest, there’s something freeing about that. You won’t feel guilty about putting miles on it, thrashing it, and putting it away dirty. Of all my bikes, it’s one of my favorites for that reason.
Keep it and enjoy it, man!
This is great! I love the brutal honesty in this series! Keep at it and this vmax will give you so much pride once you ride off into the sunset that you'll forget about the $$$...😂 no but seriously its not as bad as if you decided to put back together an old ducatti that was in the same shape! Keep on going buddy love the content!
I saw Lamb Chop Rides' Ducati build and noped out
TLDR: Don't buy a bike that's over 20 years old unless you're flush with cash to rebuild it.
That, and always use ethanol fuel treatment.
Correction, don't buy a shit $700 bike with 70k on the odo.
In all honesty, although you end up spending a butt load of cash on just having to desperately rebuilding a bike nearly 3 decades old, it's surprising to know it cost less than a brand new, less powerful, motorcycle. Really goes to show, for 1, how inflated prices can be at market price, but especially, how much you can save with a decent amount of mechanical skills and understanding on a motorcycle's build. Once rebuilt, this will be practically a brand new VMax which will be very exciting to know considering it's not even in production anymore.
Yeah, but when you ride it, you're smiling. Have fun!
You maybe able to save the gas tank with electrolysis. It only needs 12 volts or a little more and an old bolt. All of the rust in the tank will migrate to the old bolt. Then dry and seal the metal. Only works if the seams are still okay.
I ALMOST bought a broke down V Max from same era as yours. This series of videos has steered Me clear of that financial blunder. Looking forward to how Your project comes out especially with the lofty goal of being competition ready even 🤘
You're definitely better off waiting to buy a newer gen that has fuel injection, better motor, brakes, suspension, etc.
@@kugangles9860 and running is worth paying more then the headache of parts searching for this rare bird
I totally feel this! I got a 2003 bmw r1150rt for free from a friend of my dad’s which sat for over 10 years, and it’s gonna be my first bike. I got it to where it cranks and has spark, but no fuel is getting in the motor. Part of me wishes I would have saved up for a turnkey bike because nursing this bmw back to health could get very expensive.
Good luck with your vmax project! It’s bound to fall into place sooner or later, and turning it into a passion project probably takes a lot of pressure off
Vmax restores/rebuilds always seem to end in tears. It is such a unique bike that people want to revive them but those carbs! It is a very complicated bike for it's era and that means lots more things to break.
The worst possible way to flip a bike. Most expensive air filter and new tank that could have been resealed. The point of rebuilding is fixing not just bolting on new parts
Hopefully the engine doesn’t have issues like weak valve springs from valves sitting in the open position for years or pitting in the cylinder walls or suck rings. That ruined radiator cap sounds like you probably have corrosion in the radiator and water pump.
Good luck with this project.
Eh, well see. I'm taking it one step at a time. If it rolls I'll be happy.
The project that just keeps on giving!
As someone who bought, restored(at least to good riding order, not necessarily oem condition) and sold them for many years....
If you break even, youre really lucky. To actually make money doing this requires EXTREME care on what you buy.
Older bikes just arent worth a lot, and as soon as tou need to say replace tires (almost a certainty) youll blow like 20-30% of the resale value right there.
It can be rewarding, sure, it can also been extremely frustrating.
Its a cool project to do, soblong as you have a good riding bike. It is the WORST way to get into motorcycling though.
Anyways, still really enjoying this series. Vmax's are cool, and its nice to watch someone who isnt me suffering with this.
Sounds like you better get to polishing...... I look forward to seeing how it goes. Win or lose, I have no doubt it will be badass.
Hey Spite, as you now know it never ends ! Old bikes you constantly are replacing things.... I would keep it, you probably couldn't get your money back... ride it !
She is a keeper now
*73’ cb750 that sat in a carport with a hacked up harness that hasn’t ran in over a decade has entered the chat*
You lost money, but gained knowledge
My turbo busa says the Vmax is just an amateur money pit
Just wait... might need a new motor. We'll see how the current one works after a few hundred miles.
lol
@@spitescorner you havent checked compression yet? I havent on mine either so i get it lol.
It's not the compression that worries me, it's the transmission. I can't test that until the clutch works. I can't start the motor until I have the slave cylinder on. It's a Russian nesting doll of problems lol
@@spitescorner spin the crank with an impact driver
Just bought an old bmw r1150gs with 85k on it for 2.4k. Everything works perfect. Its clearly been well maintained. I've never had such a good experience buying a used bike. I gues it comes down to the type of people adv owners tend to be vs other kinds of bike owners. 😅
I love this series so much!
V-Max is quite wide spreed in Germany. It is quite easy to get parts here. I see a V-Max on ever bike meet. :D
This is why we live in a ‘disposable’ society: the cost of repairing things so often exceeds the cost of replacing things. 🤷♂️
Mostly agree with you, but I think that the reason it's so expensive to repair is because they convinced everyone to throw things out first. A GREAT read:
Shop Class as Soul Craft
@@karimali7602 you used to be able to go to bike junkyards for parts when this bike was new. I miss those days
Yes, as thing get improved, they change....
@@ellwoodwolf a dishwasher is literally the exact same thing it was 100 years ago (only difference is soft touch buttons, but literally nothing else has changed)
I like where you’re going with this Spite! Good luck brother
Whatever number you think it will take to fix up a bike, triple it and you've got the true cost
We need to take ya to the Joe school of po’ boy fixes!
I fucking love VMax builds so YEEES. GERMAN TURBO KIT, GERMAN TURBO KIT!
big ooof. best of luck on the sponsor because wow.
no project bikes for me dang
I'd recommend getting one eventually, but be careful with which one you pick.
Honda's are pretty easy to get going again. Though there are circumstances that one should steer clear of. Such as unfinished cafe racer builds.
Yup, my CBR600F4i was a grand and needed like $250 in parts. It was super easy
Suddenly an old Sportster is looking really good! 😂
Old sportsters are great projects! Parts are readily accessible and there's so many ways you can go with the whole thing. And they're easy to find and pretty cheap.
If anything it is entertainment. keep going, you got this, and I could see a flying eyes vmax build merging nicely. now the question is do you double what you have spent and get yourself that sweet sweet supercharger to really make this a FLYIN V? can't wait to see the next update and possible plan. cheers.
Ah project bikes, ive done a few in the past and i can feel the headache coming on as you describe it. The trouble is ill see something going cheap on classifieds and totally forget all the frustration and think "this time itll be different." Definition of delusion.
Yeah, but when I finish a project on this bike and something works where it didn't before, it's so worth it. This has been a real test of my skills.
At the very worst; do it as a give-away bike. You might recoup some of the money, plus it then becomes someone else's headache.
I bet the carbs in my '83 V65 Magna were somehow worse. 🤣
When I picked it up a few years ago it had been sitting for over 20 years. The original owner died in 1997 and his family kept his bike in the back of their garage since then until I bought it from them. The only problem was that they hadn't prepped it for storage. None of the fluids had been drained. The carbs' internals were severely corroded and there was were some sort of crystals that had grown inside the float bowls. The tanks were full of rust flakes. The fuel lines were disintegrating. The exhaust pipes and air box were packed with literal rats' nests. In short the thing was an absolute disaster. But with a bit more hard work than I'd like to admit I got it all squared away. I ride it every day now.
You can do it, I have faith in you.
I'm watching this as I am struggling hardcore with wiring my Sportster. Yay motorcycles...
Go, in and out, Morty. 20 minutes adventure.
Hell yeah. Way to turn a problem into an opportunity
Alright boys lets get em some low pressure heads and a turbskiiiiiiiiiii
Sounds about right. i bought a 1983 750 Magna that I got for 500 and rebuild. Last thing I need to do is change the chain tensioners inside of the engine block, but ive already poored 3000 into the bike. I learned a lot about bike mechanics and functionings with the project. It runs great and is a blast to ride, but there's always something to fix ...
$459 for tyres? Can't complain about that. It's $450 just for a rear tyre for my bike. I am, however, looking forward to seeing what it becomes once you get a sponsor on board.
I cannot wait to see this. I love muscle bikes so much. Its why I ride a rocket. This thing's gonna be badass.
I would NEVER recommend an older Vmax for anyone that's not a mechanic. A real mechanic.
If makes you feel better Spite, my OG ‘85 custom Max cost me over £25,000 to rebuild into ‘Musashi’ show bike and motor was perfect runner, 🙈
I told you about the misery superbike surgery went through 😂
Just like old Italian bikes. Don’t own just one bike, cause when it breaks you’ll be hunting parts for a while and not riding unless you have spare wheels.
I mentioned.
This was the wrong bike to start this.
Good you are having fun tho.
We restored a 1986 vmax not to long ago for a customer.....over 7K in it....and he had the bike!!!! so yeah im sorry to see you struggling with that bike but the vmax is probably one of the worse bike you could have chosen to bring back to life!!
Yeah that was painful to watch
Brutal bro
Man I really need to list my pile of parts. Today I learned my spare fuel tank was worth 300 USD.
Don't believe everything you see/hear on the internet.
If every subscriber would chip in 10 cents this bike could be finished with ease.
This financial stunt reminds me of Seth's Bike Hack's flip bikes but with way more headaches
The oldest lesson in vintage bikes; unless it’s a CB750, your clapped out cheap Japanese bike will ALWAYS COST MORE to fix, than what you spent on buying it.
All the constant drama with new KTM warranty claims when this is what it looks like on the other side.
"Thats not supposed to make that sound" has me in fucking tears 😂😂😂😂 im so sorry for your misfortune but that was hilarious
Almost bought a good runner in Campbell River bc canada 6500 cdn bought an 87 yamaha 750 fzr instead for half that in same process as we speak considerably luckier than you have been so far fingers crossed😊
This seems like an insanely over complicated motorcycle to start this project with.
Been there and done that, dude. Maybe even more than once.
Hey spike as they say you buy a project you get a project with big expenses
Before you dump more money at it, make sure it runs and is shifting gears, and electronics are functional.
Because it might need more parts like chain, sprocket, valve adjustment, gaskets might go bad because of age, oil leaks, wiring, most of rubber bushings have chance of failure, starter motor, relays, new wiring set...
"oh so that's why it was $700" series
I've been considering getting an old Vmax to restore and ride. I'm not anymore....
dang I wanted to see this on twisted road. A donor bike would make the most sense
You need to get it runnin and turn it into a cafe /street fighter lightin ot a lil remove some stuff ,set of clip ons ,buy some amzon adjustable break away levers ,master cylinder,fab up a set of rearsets ,turn that muscle cruiser i to wht its always really wanted to be
Ah yes, buy a bike cheaply that has sat for a long time and try to restore it. I feel you mate, about a year ago I picked up a 1995 Honda ST1100 down here in Australia for $500 with the same idea. Once I got it running it became apparent that the head gaskets needed replacing and the engine was so dirty I decided to pull it out of the bike. Once I have it out and have the heads off I see the valves need lapping, and the valve stem seals could do with replacing. The fairing needs work since it's obviously been dropped on both sides, the carbies have been off and rebuilt, the throttle cables were sticky so those as well........I could go on for some time.
By the time I get it restored and back on the road I guess it will have cost me $3500-$4000, still OK for a great bike that will have been properly gone over but after about a year on the project I decided this would have to be a long term job and went out and bought a ST1300 to satisfy my want for a long distance mile muncher in the meantime. Another year or two and the 1100 will be at the point where I can take it over the pits and get it registered. If you take your time it's fun, but if you try to rush it it's a major chore.
I have 4 street bikes.. they all cost way too much money to keep running..lol
I bought my 1992 CB750 for the equivalent of 2500 dlls, being a running and relatively well taken care of bike.
Then spent an extra 3,500 dlls fixing and improving everything i could, just for the peace of mind of riding a 30+ yo bike oike i stole it.
Now i have a bike thats worth 2500 dlls that costed me 6000+ dollars
Old bikes are not cheap at all if you actually want them to ride well lol
Learned a lot from taking care of that bike, so the experience is worth it, 12/10 would do again
Japanese,basket cases have always cost me dearly. I only do the ones I really want.
To quote the bearded mechanic, you make your money during the purchase. In this case though, you make your money by walking away
Dude, there's 72,000 miles on the crank bearings, piston rings etc. not to mention the transmission. It's not worth the money or the effort.
That thing is what we, in these parts, refer to as a "blivut".
Rule number one. Never buy a bike over two cylinders hahahaha
Ah, the perfect sunk cost fallacy example.
This would be accurate if I didn't run a RUclips channel
I could have told you this would happen before you even started it. in the world of bad ass V-max builds, you are going to need a lot lot LOT of money.
Badass is relative. For me Ohlins suspension, seventeens, brembos, and new bodywork seems really sweet.
I'm sorry I gave you second-hand Turbo Busa disease. I'm willing to sponsor this build ;)
lets fricking go
Who knew it was so contagious. 🤣 I see the light at the end of the tunnel for this stage.
i hope
Keepin' it real. Motorcycles EAT money. I saw a busted up Triumph for sale $2500. I saw a really nice minty Triumph of the same year and model, $5500. Buy the $5500 one. I bought a used bike that is 19 years old but with only 1,600 miles on it. I dropped $1500 on it, just spiffing it up, basically. (just parts and accessories, I do all the work)
what is goin on with this project? it would be good to see the rest of the restoration
Your doing good. If you were to have had a shop do everything you'd be at around $6500 not including the purchase price. That's IF there is a shop that would work on such an old bike. Your always better off buying a good running bike and paying more. With your non running V Max don't know if there's engine and transmission problems. Also always but OEM rubber and cables if available. Aftermarket rubber disintegrates quickly and aftermarket cables often don't work without modification.
You got away lightly.
When he gets done and realizes that used klr sale price + vmax money would have gone a long way to a used pan America.....
Dude. Fuck carb bikes.
That's purgatory personified. Smh.
The carbs were the most expensive part sure, but they weren't the worst part. So far that goes to the clutch system
Any bets on how many miles it goes before 2nd gear grenades? At least the clutch plates are easy.
You have presumably never heard this bike run ? I think I would have got it running before spending money on new tires, brakes, hoses etc etc.
Budgets are for cowards.
For those that want a project bike....watch this video...and be warned.
Always start with something simple wich needs few parts and a good clean that,s what a pro does no disrespect
This is my fourth project bike though so, I've done a fair few. Got each one running well
@spitescorner I hope this one works out its a complicated bike
86 GSXR750 'ran when parked' beats that....360£ just for the screen 1600nz$ for a set of valves.....
One of the worst type of vehicle you can buy is one that has been sitting for years. Stay clear of those. I'd much rather buy a high mileage bike that's still being used than one that's been sitting in a dudes shed under a tarp for 10+ years.
Once it makes the power it should the clutch will probably slip. Every xvz1300 (same engine/bike design) ive bought needed o e
The "joys" of vintage motorcycles. Can relate.
Laughs in 40yr old Honda Nighthawk
I learned years ago when picking a carbureted bike. Make sure they are there and if they are make sure they are workable. Surprisingly they are specific to every model motorcycle. That makes them hard to find and expensive on just about every bike ever produced. If carb situation is not met it is always a big pass no matter how great the rest of the bike may be
They were there, but the problem was they had sat for so long that they needed to be torn down to their component parts. It's hard to know how rough the carbs really are when you're looking at a bike in someone else's driveway.
Bearded Mechanic feels for you..... at no point ever pick his brain....
You shoild look into getting tje front forks swapped using an R6 front end (ive read into it, found theres conversion kits that include the triple trees that can take the R6 front forks
One thing at a time. I need the bike to roll first to make sure the motor's happy.