Check out another laptop vs desktop GPU comparison next: RTX 3060: ruclips.net/video/S1sCLpkOkhY/видео.html RTX 3070: ruclips.net/video/LL3cRsKlDR8/видео.html RTX 3070 Ti: ruclips.net/video/nWnpfBxKgfU/видео.html RTX 3080: ruclips.net/video/5ejYx_pjJvI/видео.html Best Laptop vs Best Desktop: ruclips.net/video/qOc0wMqFTlA/видео.html 0:25 Obviously meant to say "3080 desktop 45% faster vs 3080 LAPTOP" and not desktop 😎
It looks like you're using an XMG laptop for this review. I ordered an Apex laptop from them a week ago. I've got to say that their ordering experience is less than desirable. The only confirmation of my order that I received so far was one email stating that my order was not confirmation of a contract/purchase even though they immediately took the money from my bank account. The only thing I can see on their website is that the order is processing. It looks like they haven't even started the build a week after I purchased it. This may not be the case but they could do a hell of a lot better with feed back. I expected a lot more from a company that is so revered by tech RUclipsrs. What has your purchasing experience been like when ordering from XMG?
I think it'll be another 4gb card. Or 6gb at best. Because nvidia is using 128 bit for the rtx 4060, and that will have 8gb. So I think a rtx 4050 would at best have 6gb of vram if nvidia goes with 96bit. Maybe nvidia might even go with 64bit and just give the 4050 4gb of vram.
@@ibrahimsoualhi7735 no . It depends on memory bit size. Per 32 bit you can have 1 or 2 gb of vram. 3050 is 128 bit. So,, either 4 or 8 3060 is 192 bit so,, 6 or 12. 3080 is 320 bit so,, 10 gb If 4050 is 192 bit ,, well get 6gb vram
With the 3070, you start getting at a point where the desktop version has close to or more than double the TDP of the laptop variant (220W vs 80-130W), and that's really hard to catch up on. I'm honestly surprised the difference between the two is that small.
@@francoislemesre Because of pre overclocked NVIDIA cards, that's why. Diminishing returns for pushing the clockspeed so hard on a GPU while power consumption goes up by a lot, same for CPU clockspeeds (which is worse).
why though? the laptop one has less cores, hence tge difference makes perfect sense. Now the laptop 3070 ti has the same specs as the desktop 3070, hence why they are very close in performance. The desktop 3070 in a laptop(3070m ti) is only 5-10% slower than it is in a desktop.
I'd love to see a comparison between a 3050Ti laptop VS a 3050 desktop, since they have the same amount of Cuda cores (2560), it would be a slightly more fair comparison. I have a laptop with a 3050Ti with a 12700H Intel CPU, and with a stable overclock on the GPU I'm able to play most games at 1440p on an external monitor, the additional mobility is a no brainer for me.
@@rameshravikumar9515 Just 60W, so it's considered to be on the standard - upper end, it's the MSI GF66, I'm able to get +240mhz on the GPU and + 650mhz on the vram.
Laptop vs Desktop is utterly use case dependent. Personally, when someone asks me what to get if they are at ALL unsure about the need for mobility, laptop. Doubly so if they’re not tech savvy, as they can easily bring it to me wherever I am to tinker with. I’ve set up multiple people with hubs + laptop stands as desktop replacements in the last few years, all VERY happy. My SIL never leaves the house so we built her a ballin 10700k/3070 rainbow puke desktop a bit ago, also very happy. TLDR: PCMR can suck it, a good 3060/3070 laptop is honestly fine for 90% of people, but a desktop will always give you more FPS per dollar if prices aren’t crazy, and do it much quieter.
This is true, especially when it comes to simplicity of updating software/drivers, laptops take the cake. Usually can be done from 1 songle website/control center. However this can also be a con as laptop manufacturers have their own gpu drivers, which are usually not up to date by a large margin.
@@ultimategohan1551 Exactly. All warranty, software, troubleshooting is (mostly) single source. As the person they'll call when things get weird, this is ideal. And the super powerful CPU's of today combined with decreased terribleness of most OEM software, it doesn't really drag the system down to keep it there. I have found that for the iGpu you def need the OEM specific drivers. From what I can tell, it must be a tie-in with Optimus/Hybrid modes for laptops packing dGpu's, and OEM efficiency/power setups for non dGpu rigs.. For dGpu's though I've had pretty consistent luck across multiple brands and models for installing directly from Nvidia.
11 days late but you're absolutely right. Especially with laptop performance for the ~1000 USD- 1300 USD range becoming more competitive with desktop performance with the added benefit of portability, there is less of a reason to built a PC unless you're likely to stay home 90% of the time. That's why I got myself a new Alpha 15 for 940$. I could use it with a monitor if I needed the extra screen size but its portability allows me to carry it to college or travel home with me on a 3 hours trip. And this is despite my other less tech savvy friends saying ' why don't I just buy a PC with that money'. Coz I can't carry everything home with me LOL
Before watching, i can tell, the difference is big in 3050. Also, 3060 is one of the best gpu ever manufactured if sold on msrp not scams and pimpness. The desktop 3060 is awesome at it MSRP. The price to performance ration is a win win.
On desktops? Not even close. On laptops? Again, not even close. On both accounts the gtx 1060 was FAR more impressive at its launch. Because that mobile 1060 6gb was trading blows with desktop gtx 980's. It was so powerful, skylake and kaby lake mobile were literally bottlenecking it. And unlike the mobile 3060, it didn't get its vram gimped. Infact, the mobile 3gb 1060 retained the full core count, unlike the desktop 3gb 1060. So like the 3060 mobile, the 1060 3gb mobile, packed more cores than the desktop version. And the most impressive part? It didn't need 130w to get within 8-10% of a desktop 1060. It did it at just 80w. And did all that while being CPU and optimus bottlenecked.
@@SMGJohn I am not talking about sell figures, 3060 is best overall and very capable gpu nvidia ever designed, but the miners spoiled its price to value. 3060 dGpu is 12gb memory, it can be burned to multitask (ofcourse miners love the memory).
What's surprising/shocking is the differences are greater as you go up the ladder from 3060 all the way to 3080 when comparing desktop vs laptop gpu. But the 3050 has differences as the 3080's. One would expect it to have even less differences if any at all considering the 3060s are a really close match.
there is nothing surprising if you look at the specs. 3060m is closer by its specs to desktop version, hence why it's much closer. while 3050 laptop and 3080 laptop versions are nothing like the desktop version, hence the result. Power limits are important, but raw specs matter more. Another perfect example - laptop 3070 ti has the same specs as desktop 3070. Which is why it's only about 5% slower on average, despite 40% difference in power. If anybody tells you laptops are only cut down because they have limited cooling don't believe them, it's just manufacturers trying to scam their buyers.
Even at 6GB difference the 3060 laptop isn't as slow as it's desktop counterparts, and seeing the almost similar wattage of the 3060 laptop to the desktop and the slightly higher CUDA, the laptop 3060 is possibly the closest to it's desktop brothers than any laptop GPU produced so far, although it'll probably change in the next generation as per usual. The VRAM for the 3050 laptop is probably the reason it's far behind the desktop side, and whatever is different to eachother. I suggest getting it only if you plan on entering PC gaming, getting boost for games that are CPU limited like DOTA or getting help in application that requires dGPU acceleration. But not more.
@@bapynshngain Ok, but I do expect my $1000 gaming laptop to kinda max out 1080p, which the 3050 fails at. Especially because there have been several 3060 laptops under $1000 ($800 to $950) with 3060's that could max out 1080p on 99.9% of games and do it for 1-2 years.
You may even find deals on them now. I just got a laptop at microcenter that was on sale from 1450 down to 1099. If you time it right your can find good deals when they start bringing in the new models and are trying to sell the older ones
I agree, where i live i there is a lot of 3060 and 3070 laptops used for sale for really good price, i can find 3070 lenovo legion 5 for same price like 3060 one so i will probably go for rtx 3070... I just hope it wont be very noisy when not playing games
Great video! Now that you've done basically compared the entire stack of laptop vs desktop GPUs, it'd be cool if you could make a matrix for people to compare laptop performance vs. desktop performance outside of just these model numbers. Like if you get a laptop 3070, which desktop GPUs do it compare to, etc.
I bought a laptop with these exact specs (lower power consumption tho) and I am absolutely happy with it, I can play every game I care about with high settings with ease, plus it's for school anyways so I am lucky to even get something close to it, generally no regrets whatsoever with buying a 3050 laptop, it does the job and it does it extremely well
I honestly have a hard time understanding why people even bother making laptops with 3050 since 3060 is not even that much more expensive, and can be good for not only 1080p but also 2K. 3050 laptop with 4Gb VRAM is just silly.
Nice video Jarrod! Keep them coming. This video shows how good laptops are getting. Especially in comparison to full grown desktop models. Especially a 3060 laptop model for round about 900€ is good portable and performing model for the next years. Can not wait to see more midrange laptops.
Buyers are always ripped off at the low-lowest end and at the very high-highest end of the spectrum. In laptops people are stuck with 3 year old outdated 1650 GPU or a gimped 3050 GPU. So pick your poison type situation (although it's starting to improve as the 3050 laptops are lowering in price). And yea absolutely nothing from AMD Radeon. They have a garbage 6500M or the 6600M only in premium laptops which again have weaknesses vs the 3060 like terrible productivity performance and less features.
well I mean I don't know if ripped off is the right word. I mean these were meant to be lower end products and honestly 1080p high settings 60fps works fine on most game with these cards. I would recommend of course the ti versions of both these cards, buying the non ti at this point is a huge mistake. Honestly, If I was in the market I would be waiting for the next gen cards for an upgrade.
in my country right now, the rtx3060 laptops start roughly around 1080usd equivalent. Indeed if you can push a bit more past 1000usd, you can skip the rtx3050/ti. The extra 2gb of vram is well worth it.
And yet during the gpu shortage times it was still cheaper to get an rtx powered laptop then building an entire new desktop pc, which sort of evens out a lot of the performance loss. Laptops certainly made quite some progress to an extend i found it easy to replace my aging desktop and are now using 2 laptops (one dektop replacement one on the go). Now that prices come down again it will be a different story. But there where quite some great laptop deals during black friday event on amazon. Looking forward on the 4000 series and amd 7000 series laptop gpu´s and how the prices will be even so i should be fine till next years black friday sales or even longer. My rtx 3080 laptop does what it´s supposed to and the rtx 3050 non ti laptop is still quite fast for the low price i paid for it and able to play whatever games (specially with dlss) at good fps. One thing i would like to see is that nvidia stops this wrong lableing of gpu´s. IF you cut the cores/tmus/rops etc then it´s no longer the same and it´s certainly misleading when people read rtx 3050 on a laptop yet they essentially get what would be more likely a 3040. Nvidia just be honest once.... You can essentially go down 1-2 steps compared to desktop gpu´s with rtx laptop equivalents, probably 1 step with max p models and closer to 2 steps with max q models.
The reason I'm not planning to buy gaming pc in future cause GPUs getting ridiculous amount of power. With high power comes great electricity bill. Laptop or console easily does the job for cheap.
@@sportssimulation I know right it's useless to buy whole pc which is not even portable and uses more electricity. Consoles and laptops are far better.
They really hosed up the naming conventions on these. We can understand that laptops will have different thermal envelopes. But when you are calling your chips 3050 and there are different combinations of cores, clock speeds, etc, etc, its JUST A DIFFERENT PRODUCT.
I own a 1050 ti laptop. Problem with that is sustained performance. Initially it was good. Its been 4 years and now after I run even an old title (like Witcher 3) for over an hour, the FPS drops from 40-45 to 30-35 which is annoying. This is happening even after cleaning and reapplying thermal paste (maybe just wears off after 6-7 months). With desktop though, you can basically futureproof it. I'd say, if you are a bachelor then go buy a laptop (assuming you would be travelling a lot between your college and hometown), otherwise buy a desktop.
Since I travel a lot A system like that would be really great I mean from gaming prospective I can simply turn on the dlss in thr games where there was a significant difference and can easily squeeze out 30-40% fps boost So it isn't really a trade off I only need my laptop for casual work flow and good gaming So laptop isn't really a bad option
The vram limit is disgusting the could of at least given 6 gigs . I'm realizing for future u really do need 8+ gigs and I think that's minimum or should be on PC games do use up air of vram. I'm sure that movies is shortchanging us on vram there could easily include way more vram per buck . I have a 3070 on laptop and I'm seeing already more powerful gpus are a must . Even the fastest 3080ti mobile is a 3070 on desktop . Never theless I'm enjoying my laptop with mobile 3070 .
8hour of daily gaming is difference of about 150-200W on power consumption. This can be with growing energy prices per year even 200-400USD difference based on your kwh cost. So playing on laptop is lcheaper at final.
@@petersmulders8058 Dude if your just gaming and is not a content creator, game developer, A.I. developer then yes Desktop PC is the best choice. However if you're the kind of guy which is on the go and then has a lot meetings while programming with the best specs that man has ever in need then a laptop would be a best choice. Like I said I'd rather have both for portability, gaming, developing, & less worries
We have 3x 1650's in the house... 2x i3 desktops and 1x i5 laptop... The desktops smoke the laptop.... That is why I took Jarrod's advice and bought a legion 5 R7 3070.... It's smokes them all lol... Amazing for laptop... And only 1100 squids ... Thanks Jarrod for all your great videos!
I think laptops with Intel 13th gen mobile and Nvidia 4000 series mobile GPUs should be coming out in a few months. As someone who is looking into the market for a multipurpose laptop (e.g. freelance work, WFH / Home-based / Remote, gaming + livestreaming), the 4060 mobile might be something to watch.
A thousand dollars for a 3050 laptop with 6 cores? Dude, some countries have the same price (in $) but with a freakin' 1650 & a goddamn quadcore. Gotta love regional pricing & taxes.
Hello Jarod. Great content as always. I have a question not related to GPUs... I want yo buy alienware m15 r7 with 1Tb gen 4 ssd. My question is, can i put a gen 3 ssd in the second slot? I know the speed of the gen 3 will not go higher, but will the two ssds work together on the same motherboard?
Jarrod, do you have any plans on doing a video on the Honeywell TPM7950? It seems to be some kind of magical material compared to thermal pastes but there’s no definitive review on the topic
Not including a monitor in the price of a desktop is misleading. I am basically changing back to PC gaming. I have a standard laptop and don't have a monitor just laying around. So l would need to buy a monitor, which would raise the price of the desktop.
Now I kinda regret I bought a laptop with rtx 3050 in It. It will not last that long as I want to be performance wise... But hey it is still a big upgrade from my old gtx 750
For the love of god if you're going to compare the thermals and noise of the two please buy a proper airflow case. This could be misleading for a lot of people as i'm pretty sure that other cases (like the h510 flow) could be 10°c cooler and quieter at the same price if not cheaper. Really like your content man but this is 👎
Even forgetting AMD exists, the 3050 desktop is such an awful product considering a 3060 is $40 more, has 50% more ram and is far faster, and the 3050 laptop is also such an awful product when it only has 4gb of vram and far faster and not kneecaped 3060 laptops easily hit $800-$900 on sale. Nvidia should be ashamed both exist at their price points.
I won't say 3050 laptop is awful as here in india 3050 laptops are significantly cheaper than 3060 and good alternative to 1650ti laptops. But yes! The 3050 desktop card is a failure.
All correct until you said 3060 laptops easily hit $800-$900. I don't agree on that I've not seen a 3060 laptop reach that price, and even rarely a 3050 laptop If it does, then it either has like 8gb ram and 256gb storage, which is trash So a decent 3060 laptop of at least 16gb ram and 512 storage won't be find lower than $1200 easily if on sale Even a 3050 laptop with 16/512 will hardly be find at that price range
@@Elzabra_26 yeah i picked up a gigabyte g5 rtx 3060 for just €1k and that was already on sale so idk lol. 800-900 us will find you a 1650 or 3050 maybe
When gpu prices were 2x to 3x, definitely. But not now when you can build a custom pc with 6600xt or better for the price of a 3050ti/3060 laptop.(6600xt > 3060)
Wow, desktops make little sense in this price range if one is ok with fewer upgrade options in a laptop. For heavy gamers/video editors, it's also like $50-100 more per year in electricity bills, it all adds up over time.
Laptop can be used as a desktop but the other way is not possible. I bought a laptop 3050 because last year there was no desktop available for the same price range. So it really depends
i just got the ASUS TUF F15 (2021) for only 500 euros, same specs as the laptop from the vid, i guess it wasn't a bad pick, brand new and i'm gonna use it only for simple gamming, not high AAA games (not a gamer tbh), and little bit more, i was planning on building a PC but at the end, it will cost me a lot more than what i was specting. I came from the Acer nitro 5 (2017) with the GTX 1050Ti and the i5 7400hq, so happy with it, played lot of games, so im excited to play Apex at 144 Hrz
Its blatant false advertising to brand the mobile GPU variants the same. Both AMD and Nvidia have been doing it for years knowing they can trick less education customers. Shady as hell.
You say to get a 3060 over a 3050 at 1000 dollars but it entirely depends on what kind of laptop you are buying and the power limits it has. A cheap 3060 laptop is going to have a high tdp gpu whereas an expensive 3050 laptop would be thinner and higher build quality and better screen. If you are looking at a thin 3060 laptop its going to cost WAY more than the equivalent with a 3050.
People still wonder why we laptop users keep using them it’s not completely about the power but because we move around allot so mobility is a must even though u can argue it’s at a high cost but even if u have a 3060 laptop it will still do well so u won’t need to upgrade every generation except if ur one of the few who want the latest and greatest
The differences are big because the 3050 laptop have 4Gb of Vram and Desktop 3050 have 8Gb of Vram..... This test is useless. When vram hit 4GB (full) performance degradation is huge. In fact, GPU computational power is similar (many games fps differences are really near) but in game like metro exodus differences are huge. So? Suddently the GPU computational power drop? No. The problem is that metro exodus need way more than 4 GB of Vram with that graphic quality settings. 3050 is a great every day gaming/ esport GPU, but 4 GB of vram is a mistake. 6 GB are perfect....8 Gb maybe too much to handle. For manage full 8GB of vram (with ultra quality texture) is not a job for a 3050.....so are wasted money. RTX3050 is really good for esport at 1080 with normal/High settings where 4gb of vram are right.
Well just goes to highlight why putting 4GB of vram on the RTX 3050 left SO MUCH performance on the table. An arbitrary limitation that does not exist in desktop 3050s
Im not sure why you would expect the 3050 to continue the trend of the laptop gpu being closer to the desktop one when you knew going into this that the laptop 3050 is designed for thin and light laptops because it maxes out at 80w. The 3060 can go way closer to the desktop versions tdp because the 3060 laptop max tdp variants are designed for thick desktop replacement laptops.
Um the biggesr differences are cuda core count and memory size. The altop 3060 has more cores than the desktop one while laptop 3050 has less cores than the desktop version. And while 6GB of memory is still enough, 4GB are really starting to show their age even in modern games, not to mention the future.
@@TabalugaDragon the biggest difference in performance is due to tdp limitations. The 3060 can do nearly double the tdp. Thats why the 3060 is close to the desktop version and like you said it also has more CUDA cores but mainly its the TDP
@@TabalugaDragon no the main difference in performance is due to tdp. The difference in cuda cores does account for some of the performance difference but not all. If you want another example, look at the difference between an rtx 2070 80w mobile gpu and a 115w version in a better/bigger laptop.
@@B1u35ky The laptop 3050 can go up to 95 watts, the desktop up to 130 watts, that's about 40% difference. The laptop 3060 Jarrod tested can go up to 130 watts, the desktop 170 watts, around 35% difference. You sure you don't wanna check your math? Core count DIRECTLY affects power efficiency(hence why Pascal or 1000 series GPU-s were so close to their desktop versions and why 2000 series wasn't that much behind), and 4GB of memory is a terrible limitation these days. " look at the difference between an rtx 2070 80w mobile gpu and a 115w version in a better/bigger laptop." I never said power isn't important. But Core count is even more important. Hence an 80 watt 3060 is like 15% behind the desktop 3060 at half the power while 960m has like half the performance of a desktop 960 at 2\3 the power. Hence why a 90 watt 2080 super max q has performance of a desktop 2070 which needs more than double the power of this GPU to have as much performance.
Proving once more that 3060 is the best value you can get out of a laptop It's a lot of work but it would have been nice to see 3050ti laptop vs 3050 desktop Great video keep up the good work
hey Jarrod, it's me again😅. What would you choose? Asus Tuf A17 (2022) or Asus Tuf Dash f15(2022)?? i would be really grateful if somebody could reply to this🙃
I have an 85W 3050 Ti and the 4GB VRAM sounds low but it seems to run perfectly fine still Even intensive games like Cyberpunk 2077 at high settings, with DLSS on balanced I get average of 60 FPS in the benchmark, if I drop it to medium settings I get 75 FPS average. Despite the 4GB VRAM it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, internet bandwagon strikes again. People would have you believe it's equal to a potato without having done any tests themselves.
well its an intentional thing done to cut power usage and heat output since the vram is a hungry part. However, I agree that 8gb should be the minimum standard now for any dedicated card, laptop or not.
Check out another laptop vs desktop GPU comparison next:
RTX 3060: ruclips.net/video/S1sCLpkOkhY/видео.html
RTX 3070: ruclips.net/video/LL3cRsKlDR8/видео.html
RTX 3070 Ti: ruclips.net/video/nWnpfBxKgfU/видео.html
RTX 3080: ruclips.net/video/5ejYx_pjJvI/видео.html
Best Laptop vs Best Desktop: ruclips.net/video/qOc0wMqFTlA/видео.html
0:25 Obviously meant to say "3080 desktop 45% faster vs 3080 LAPTOP" and not desktop 😎
nice!!
It looks like you're using an XMG laptop for this review. I ordered an Apex laptop from them a week ago. I've got to say that their ordering experience is less than desirable. The only confirmation of my order that I received so far was one email stating that my order was not confirmation of a contract/purchase even though they immediately took the money from my bank account. The only thing I can see on their website is that the order is processing. It looks like they haven't even started the build a week after I purchased it. This may not be the case but they could do a hell of a lot better with feed back. I expected a lot more from a company that is so revered by tech RUclipsrs.
What has your purchasing experience been like when ordering from XMG?
Can you start using escape from tarkov since it is a more demanding game.
Really hoping the next gen 4050 comes with 6gb vram, 4gb won't be enough for the upcoming games
It will be enough. But only on medium settings
Not physically possible. It's either 4gb or 8gb, 6gb is only possible on the architecture of the xx60 series
I think it'll be another 4gb card. Or 6gb at best. Because nvidia is using 128 bit for the rtx 4060, and that will have 8gb. So I think a rtx 4050 would at best have 6gb of vram if nvidia goes with 96bit. Maybe nvidia might even go with 64bit and just give the 4050 4gb of vram.
@@ibrahimsoualhi7735 no . It depends on memory bit size.
Per 32 bit you can have 1 or 2 gb of vram.
3050 is 128 bit. So,, either 4 or 8
3060 is 192 bit so,, 6 or 12.
3080 is 320 bit so,, 10 gb
If 4050 is 192 bit ,, well get 6gb vram
No, directly 8GB. 4GB is the GTX1050 mobile launched 6 years.
I don't want another rip off.
The difference between the 3070 laptop and desktop surprises me quite a bit, especially since I have a 3070 Desktop
With the 3070, you start getting at a point where the desktop version has close to or more than double the TDP of the laptop variant (220W vs 80-130W), and that's really hard to catch up on. I'm honestly surprised the difference between the two is that small.
@@francoislemesre Because of pre overclocked NVIDIA cards, that's why.
Diminishing returns for pushing the clockspeed so hard on a GPU while power consumption goes up by a lot, same for CPU clockspeeds (which is worse).
why though? the laptop one has less cores, hence tge difference makes perfect sense. Now the laptop 3070 ti has the same specs as the desktop 3070, hence why they are very close in performance. The desktop 3070 in a laptop(3070m ti) is only 5-10% slower than it is in a desktop.
Why are y'all acting like you dont know this guy
I'd love to see a comparison between a 3050Ti laptop VS a 3050 desktop, since they have the same amount of Cuda cores (2560), it would be a slightly more fair comparison. I have a laptop with a 3050Ti with a 12700H Intel CPU, and with a stable overclock on the GPU I'm able to play most games at 1440p on an external monitor, the additional mobility is a no brainer for me.
Exactly what I was thinking
What’s the tdp on your 3050ti ?
@@rameshravikumar9515 Just 60W, so it's considered to be on the standard - upper end, it's the MSI GF66, I'm able to get +240mhz on the GPU and + 650mhz on the vram.
@@rameshravikumar9515 60-110
@@SeifSoudani that’s only for your laptop, each laptop has different GPU tdp, my RTX 3050 is 75W
The desktop 3050 is really more in line with the 3050 Ti, anyway.
Yep. Mobile 3050ti has the same cuda cores as desktop 3050 but half the vram.
I think the perf is near about same with rtx 3060 75w
@@Nkit_1 A 75w rtx 3060 would still edge out the 130w rtx 3050 desktop. Because the 75w 3060 performs as well as a 160w desktop rtx 2060.
@@siyzerix thanks for the info
Is more in line with garbage (4GB of VRAM in 2022) and people recommend an RX580 8GB for the minimum nowadays.
Laptop vs Desktop is utterly use case dependent.
Personally, when someone asks me what to get if they are at ALL unsure about the need for mobility, laptop. Doubly so if they’re not tech savvy, as they can easily bring it to me wherever I am to tinker with. I’ve set up multiple people with hubs + laptop stands as desktop replacements in the last few years, all VERY happy. My SIL never leaves the house so we built her a ballin 10700k/3070 rainbow puke desktop a bit ago, also very happy.
TLDR: PCMR can suck it, a good 3060/3070 laptop is honestly fine for 90% of people, but a desktop will always give you more FPS per dollar if prices aren’t crazy, and do it much quieter.
This is true, especially when it comes to simplicity of updating software/drivers, laptops take the cake. Usually can be done from 1 songle website/control center. However this can also be a con as laptop manufacturers have their own gpu drivers, which are usually not up to date by a large margin.
@@ultimategohan1551 Exactly. All warranty, software, troubleshooting is (mostly) single source. As the person they'll call when things get weird, this is ideal. And the super powerful CPU's of today combined with decreased terribleness of most OEM software, it doesn't really drag the system down to keep it there.
I have found that for the iGpu you def need the OEM specific drivers. From what I can tell, it must be a tie-in with Optimus/Hybrid modes for laptops packing dGpu's, and OEM efficiency/power setups for non dGpu rigs.. For dGpu's though I've had pretty consistent luck across multiple brands and models for installing directly from Nvidia.
11 days late but you're absolutely right.
Especially with laptop performance for the ~1000 USD- 1300 USD range becoming more competitive with desktop performance with the added benefit of portability, there is less of a reason to built a PC unless you're likely to stay home 90% of the time. That's why I got myself a new Alpha 15 for 940$. I could use it with a monitor if I needed the extra screen size but its portability allows me to carry it to college or travel home with me on a 3 hours trip. And this is despite my other less tech savvy friends saying ' why don't I just buy a PC with that money'. Coz I can't carry everything home with me LOL
Laptops are pcmr though
What do you think about high end amd notebook like the thinkbook z13 with dock + external gpu since it has two usb 4 ports?
Before watching, i can tell, the difference is big in 3050.
Also, 3060 is one of the best gpu ever manufactured if sold on msrp not scams and pimpness. The desktop 3060 is awesome at it MSRP. The price to performance ration is a win win.
No that would be RX 580 followed by GTX 1060 are together the most sold GPUs ever.
On desktops? Not even close. On laptops? Again, not even close.
On both accounts the gtx 1060 was FAR more impressive at its launch. Because that mobile 1060 6gb was trading blows with desktop gtx 980's. It was so powerful, skylake and kaby lake mobile were literally bottlenecking it. And unlike the mobile 3060, it didn't get its vram gimped.
Infact, the mobile 3gb 1060 retained the full core count, unlike the desktop 3gb 1060. So like the 3060 mobile, the 1060 3gb mobile, packed more cores than the desktop version.
And the most impressive part? It didn't need 130w to get within 8-10% of a desktop 1060. It did it at just 80w. And did all that while being CPU and optimus bottlenecked.
now you have watched it, you can see there is no big difference in 3050
@@SMGJohn I am not talking about sell figures, 3060 is best overall and very capable gpu nvidia ever designed, but the miners spoiled its price to value.
3060 dGpu is 12gb memory, it can be burned to multitask (ofcourse miners love the memory).
@@siyzerix I was talking about dGPU 3060 12GB sorry didnt mention it well.
Rtx 4050 140w vs rtx 3050 desktop can be interesting
I would have loved if you had brought in the laptop rtx 3050 ti as well.
How did he not think of doing that!
Most likely7-8% better than 3050 non-ti. Still big results tbh
Comparing to GTX 10 and 16 series, the diference, in 50 lineup, between desktop & laptop on RTX 30 series is shameful
What's surprising/shocking is the differences are greater as you go up the ladder from 3060 all the way to 3080 when comparing desktop vs laptop gpu. But the 3050 has differences as the 3080's. One would expect it to have even less differences if any at all considering the 3060s are a really close match.
there is nothing surprising if you look at the specs. 3060m is closer by its specs to desktop version, hence why it's much closer. while 3050 laptop and 3080 laptop versions are nothing like the desktop version, hence the result.
Power limits are important, but raw specs matter more. Another perfect example - laptop 3070 ti has the same specs as desktop 3070. Which is why it's only about 5% slower on average, despite 40% difference in power.
If anybody tells you laptops are only cut down because they have limited cooling don't believe them, it's just manufacturers trying to scam their buyers.
Even at 6GB difference the 3060 laptop isn't as slow as it's desktop counterparts, and seeing the almost similar wattage of the 3060 laptop to the desktop and the slightly higher CUDA, the laptop 3060 is possibly the closest to it's desktop brothers than any laptop GPU produced so far, although it'll probably change in the next generation as per usual.
The VRAM for the 3050 laptop is probably the reason it's far behind the desktop side, and whatever is different to eachother. I suggest getting it only if you plan on entering PC gaming, getting boost for games that are CPU limited like DOTA or getting help in application that requires dGPU acceleration. But not more.
Really? Mate, did you forget the entirety of pascal? Specifically the mobile 1070 and 3gb 1060?
For me, 3050 plays games just fine even on high settings so yeah, it just comes down to how you want to use it
The reason the 3060 is closest to its dekstop counterpart is because its power limit is closest to desktop IF you get a high powered 3060 mobile
@@bapynshngain Ok, but I do expect my $1000 gaming laptop to kinda max out 1080p, which the 3050 fails at. Especially because there have been several 3060 laptops under $1000 ($800 to $950) with 3060's that could max out 1080p on 99.9% of games and do it for 1-2 years.
@@siyzerix Still, the 3060 mobile's vram is mediocre, there are games NOW that are close to max out the capacity of an 8GB RX580.
I feel like buying a laptop with a 3060 is more ideal and economical compared to a desktop do you agree
Yep, not that much difference and it can already handle most games at 60fps 1080p on max settings.
You may even find deals on them now. I just got a laptop at microcenter that was on sale from 1450 down to 1099. If you time it right your can find good deals when they start bringing in the new models and are trying to sell the older ones
Probably the best price to performance especially if you can find a good deal on a 115W+ model.
I agree, where i live i there is a lot of 3060 and 3070 laptops used for sale for really good price, i can find 3070 lenovo legion 5 for same price like 3060 one so i will probably go for rtx 3070... I just hope it wont be very noisy when not playing games
@@Mikescze speaking from experience, its not noisy at all during work. barely any sound lol.
Great video! Now that you've done basically compared the entire stack of laptop vs desktop GPUs, it'd be cool if you could make a matrix for people to compare laptop performance vs. desktop performance outside of just these model numbers. Like if you get a laptop 3070, which desktop GPUs do it compare to, etc.
I bought a laptop with these exact specs (lower power consumption tho) and I am absolutely happy with it, I can play every game I care about with high settings with ease, plus it's for school anyways so I am lucky to even get something close to it, generally no regrets whatsoever with buying a 3050 laptop, it does the job and it does it extremely well
So it seems that the RTX 3060 is the best deal when it comes to laptops.
Right now the AMD 6600 is the no brainer like HU and Jared said. Go for that
I honestly have a hard time understanding why people even bother making laptops with 3050 since 3060 is not even that much more expensive, and can be good for not only 1080p but also 2K. 3050 laptop with 4Gb VRAM is just silly.
Because profits
These comparisons are awsome! I just wonder what would be the results, if we put a power limit on Desktop.
Nice video Jarrod!
Keep them coming.
This video shows how good laptops are getting. Especially in comparison to full grown desktop models.
Especially a 3060 laptop model for round about 900€ is good portable and performing model for the next years.
Can not wait to see more midrange laptops.
Now, how much do they cost....
You should tested RTX3050TI VS RTX3050 Destop
well, I just wanted to say, that in this case the VRAM should be the deciding point
Warning !!!! Do not buy the 3050 go for a rx 6600 instead it performs like 3060 other then ray tracing and its cheap i got mine for 299
Buyers are always ripped off at the low-lowest end and at the very high-highest end of the spectrum. In laptops people are stuck with 3 year old outdated 1650 GPU or a gimped 3050 GPU. So pick your poison type situation (although it's starting to improve as the 3050 laptops are lowering in price).
And yea absolutely nothing from AMD Radeon. They have a garbage 6500M or the 6600M only in premium laptops which again have weaknesses vs the 3060 like terrible productivity performance and less features.
well I mean I don't know if ripped off is the right word. I mean these were meant to be lower end products and honestly 1080p high settings 60fps works fine on most game with these cards. I would recommend of course the ti versions of both these cards, buying the non ti at this point is a huge mistake. Honestly, If I was in the market I would be waiting for the next gen cards for an upgrade.
in my country right now, the rtx3060 laptops start roughly around 1080usd equivalent. Indeed if you can push a bit more past 1000usd, you can skip the rtx3050/ti. The extra 2gb of vram is well worth it.
And yet during the gpu shortage times it was still cheaper to get an rtx powered laptop then building an entire new desktop pc, which sort of evens out a lot of the performance loss.
Laptops certainly made quite some progress to an extend i found it easy to replace my aging desktop and are now using 2 laptops (one dektop replacement one on the go).
Now that prices come down again it will be a different story. But there where quite some great laptop deals during black friday event on amazon.
Looking forward on the 4000 series and amd 7000 series laptop gpu´s and how the prices will be even so i should be fine till next years black friday sales or even longer.
My rtx 3080 laptop does what it´s supposed to and the rtx 3050 non ti laptop is still quite fast for the low price i paid for it and able to play whatever games (specially with dlss) at good fps.
One thing i would like to see is that nvidia stops this wrong lableing of gpu´s. IF you cut the cores/tmus/rops etc then it´s no longer the same and it´s certainly misleading when people read rtx 3050 on a laptop yet they essentially get what would be more likely a 3040. Nvidia just be honest once.... You can essentially go down 1-2 steps compared to desktop gpu´s with rtx laptop equivalents, probably 1 step with max p models and closer to 2 steps with max q models.
The reason I'm not planning to buy gaming pc in future cause GPUs getting ridiculous amount of power. With high power comes great electricity bill. Laptop or console easily does the job for cheap.
Yes you’re right i switch from pc to laptop because pc consume much power that causes my electricity bills so high
@@sportssimulation I know right it's useless to buy whole pc which is not even portable and uses more electricity. Consoles and laptops are far better.
@@imranknight6659 yes i agree
That's exactly one of the reasons that I prefer laptops these days. And sometimes the portability helps when journeying
What do you guys think about power limiting the Desktop parts? So you could have the same power draw as a laptop
Jarrod, im waiting for the legion 5 pro video, will buy it immediately after your video tho
4GB vram is too less nowadays.... 6GB should be the new standard for 1080p
8GB
@@boboboy8189 No 8 GB is still alot for 1080p.....its good for 1440p though
@@P1X3L5L4Y3R you talking about today, I talking about future
So the laptop GPU is actually NOT an RTX 3050. The marketing department is just blowing smoke up our backsides.
by core configuration alone maybe it's more fair to compare 3050 (desktop) with 3050ti (laptop)
Ooooh yes I was so waiting for this. Please do more videos like this
Should have more coming in future!
They really hosed up the naming conventions on these. We can understand that laptops will have different thermal envelopes. But when you are calling your chips 3050 and there are different combinations of cores, clock speeds, etc, etc, its JUST A DIFFERENT PRODUCT.
I own a 1050 ti laptop. Problem with that is sustained performance. Initially it was good. Its been 4 years and now after I run even an old title (like Witcher 3) for over an hour, the FPS drops from 40-45 to 30-35 which is annoying. This is happening even after cleaning and reapplying thermal paste (maybe just wears off after 6-7 months). With desktop though, you can basically futureproof it. I'd say, if you are a bachelor then go buy a laptop (assuming you would be travelling a lot between your college and hometown), otherwise buy a desktop.
Try undervolting the gpu with msi afterburner like I did with my gtx 1050 laptop. It runs games for hours at 99% usage and the fps never go down.
4GB VRAM is already a bottleneck
Since I travel a lot
A system like that would be really great
I mean from gaming prospective I can simply turn on the dlss in thr games where there was a significant difference and can easily squeeze out 30-40% fps boost
So it isn't really a trade off
I only need my laptop for casual work flow and good gaming
So laptop isn't really a bad option
Difference between RX 6600M vs RX 6600 as a suggestion could be useful given the lack of coverage on AMD GPUs.
They're basically identical. The rx6600m shares the same cuda cores, vram, etc. and even the power limit as the desktop rx6600 (100w).
@@siyzerix AMD never use cuda
@@boboboy8189 You're right. that's my bad. Shoulda said cores.
You should compare with the best PC with RTX3050 VS Best Laptop with RTX3050. You are missing the point here!
The vram limit is disgusting the could of at least given 6 gigs . I'm realizing for future u really do need 8+ gigs and I think that's minimum or should be on PC games do use up air of vram. I'm sure that movies is shortchanging us on vram there could easily include way more vram per buck . I have a 3070 on laptop and I'm seeing already more powerful gpus are a must . Even the fastest 3080ti mobile is a 3070 on desktop . Never theless I'm enjoying my laptop with mobile 3070 .
The first 35 seconds of this video is very much appreciated.
Jarrod, thank you mate, for all these works.
8hour of daily gaming is difference of about 150-200W on power consumption. This can be with growing energy prices per year even 200-400USD difference based on your kwh cost. So playing on laptop is lcheaper at final.
especially at the time when 3060 GPU prices matched whole laptop xD
for me both would be recommended a Desktop & Laptop is great combo for portability and storages, workloads, & performance wise.
A desktop beats a laptop in even way quiet,better fps and more USB ports it just sucks at portability
@@petersmulders8058
Dude if your just gaming and is not a content creator, game developer, A.I. developer then yes Desktop PC is the best choice.
However if you're the kind of guy which is on the go and then has a lot meetings while programming with the best specs that man has ever in need then a laptop would be a best choice.
Like I said I'd rather have both for portability, gaming, developing, & less worries
congrats on 1000 vidoes published (i mean you might have unlisted some but yeah)
3080 Laptop* at 0:24
We have 3x 1650's in the house... 2x i3 desktops and 1x i5 laptop... The desktops smoke the laptop.... That is why I took Jarrod's advice and bought a legion 5 R7 3070.... It's smokes them all lol... Amazing for laptop... And only 1100 squids ...
Thanks Jarrod for all your great videos!
It would be really interesting if you used the desktop 3050 as an EGPU on the laptop and see if it beats the internal 3050.
I think laptops with Intel 13th gen mobile and Nvidia 4000 series mobile GPUs should be coming out in a few months.
As someone who is looking into the market for a multipurpose laptop (e.g. freelance work, WFH / Home-based / Remote, gaming + livestreaming), the 4060 mobile might be something to watch.
1K videos! Well done!
Thanks! 😃
A thousand dollars for a 3050 laptop with 6 cores?
Dude, some countries have the same price (in $) but with a freakin' 1650 & a goddamn quadcore.
Gotta love regional pricing & taxes.
there is a mistake at 00:31 if you see in the screen there is 3080 desktop in both side but not that it really matters
Hey man, thanks for the videos, just a small note:
there is a typo error at 0:37seconds, 3080 desktop vs 3080 LAPTOP (it's written desktop).
Mentioned in the pinned comment :)
4gb vram is a dealbraker. Desktop or laptop
3050ti laptop vs 3050 desktop
Not much difference between 3050ti and 3050. Both have same vram as well lmao. The new 3050 6gb (laptop) is better than the ti
Hello Jarod. Great content as always. I have a question not related to GPUs... I want yo buy alienware m15 r7 with 1Tb gen 4 ssd. My question is, can i put a gen 3 ssd in the second slot? I know the speed of the gen 3 will not go higher, but will the two ssds work together on the same motherboard?
So the laptop actually has what would be effectively a 3040
0:35 ah, yes, 3080 desktop is 45% faster than itself
Honestly, I still don’t get why laptop 3050 has only 4GB🤦🏻I even want 3060 to have 8GB :(
Because Nvidia are greedy bastards
Jarrod, do you have any plans on doing a video on the Honeywell TPM7950? It seems to be some kind of magical material compared to thermal pastes but there’s no definitive review on the topic
Not including a monitor in the price of a desktop is misleading.
I am basically changing back to PC gaming. I have a standard laptop and don't have a monitor just laying around. So l would need to buy a monitor, which would raise the price of the desktop.
Now I kinda regret I bought a laptop with rtx 3050 in It. It will not last that long as I want to be performance wise... But hey it is still a big upgrade from my old gtx 750
Will it last you for more than 4 years or no?
Can you make a video testing eGPUs over USB 4? Looking forward to AMD laptops with eGPUs.
So Legion 5 130W 3060 was basically best choice I've made when I bought it last year for 1200$ considering GPU alone was almost same price lol
I think the rtx 3080 laptop is about as powerful as the rtx 3070 desktop.
was waiting for such a video fr a long time
just a little note, at 0:33 it says "3080 Desktop 45% Faster VS 3080 Desktop" instead of laptop
Thanks for letting me know!
For the love of god if you're going to compare the thermals and noise of the two please buy a proper airflow case. This could be misleading for a lot of people as i'm pretty sure that other cases (like the h510 flow) could be 10°c cooler and quieter at the same price if not cheaper. Really like your content man but this is 👎
you should do a new video about laptop vs desktop power efficiency, lowering power limits on both
Even forgetting AMD exists, the 3050 desktop is such an awful product considering a 3060 is $40 more, has 50% more ram and is far faster, and the 3050 laptop is also such an awful product when it only has 4gb of vram and far faster and not kneecaped 3060 laptops easily hit $800-$900 on sale. Nvidia should be ashamed both exist at their price points.
I won't say 3050 laptop is awful as here in india 3050 laptops are significantly cheaper than 3060 and good alternative to 1650ti laptops. But yes! The 3050 desktop card is a failure.
All correct until you said 3060 laptops easily hit $800-$900. I don't agree on that
I've not seen a 3060 laptop reach that price, and even rarely a 3050 laptop
If it does, then it either has like 8gb ram and 256gb storage, which is trash
So a decent 3060 laptop of at least 16gb ram and 512 storage won't be find lower than $1200 easily if on sale
Even a 3050 laptop with 16/512 will hardly be find at that price range
@@Elzabra_26 yeah i picked up a gigabyte g5 rtx 3060 for just €1k and that was already on sale so idk lol. 800-900 us will find you a 1650 or 3050 maybe
@@gilvu1179 Exactly
When gpu prices were 2x to 3x, definitely. But not now when you can build a custom pc with 6600xt or better for the price of a 3050ti/3060 laptop.(6600xt > 3060)
Would be curious if this gap between performance still stands for a Desktop Replacement Laptop to a Desktop
My best vs best video would be the equivalent of that. it uses the GT77 for laptop side: ruclips.net/video/qOc0wMqFTlA/видео.html
Wow, desktops make little sense in this price range if one is ok with fewer upgrade options in a laptop. For heavy gamers/video editors, it's also like $50-100 more per year in electricity bills, it all adds up over time.
3080 desktop 45% faster than 3080 desktop? 🤔
When will there be a review of legion 7i gen7 ?
Laptop can be used as a desktop but the other way is not possible. I bought a laptop 3050 because last year there was no desktop available for the same price range. So it really depends
16 sm vs 20 sm... of course the desktop with higher power limits is noticeably faster. Oh and the 2gb chips that the desktop uses.
I think you're missing the point. It's more the fact that people assume both are equivalent simply due to them having the same '3050' name.
i just got the ASUS TUF F15 (2021) for only 500 euros, same specs as the laptop from the vid, i guess it wasn't a bad pick, brand new and i'm gonna use it only for simple gamming, not high AAA games (not a gamer tbh), and little bit more, i was planning on building a PC but at the end, it will cost me a lot more than what i was specting. I came from the Acer nitro 5 (2017) with the GTX 1050Ti and the i5 7400hq, so happy with it, played lot of games, so im excited to play Apex at 144 Hrz
Its blatant false advertising to brand the mobile GPU variants the same. Both AMD and Nvidia have been doing it for years knowing they can trick less education customers. Shady as hell.
Are you going to make a similar video for the Asus systems?
You say to get a 3060 over a 3050 at 1000 dollars but it entirely depends on what kind of laptop you are buying and the power limits it has. A cheap 3060 laptop is going to have a high tdp gpu whereas an expensive 3050 laptop would be thinner and higher build quality and better screen. If you are looking at a thin 3060 laptop its going to cost WAY more than the equivalent with a 3050.
People still wonder why we laptop users keep using them it’s not completely about the power but because we move around allot so mobility is a must even though u can argue it’s at a high cost but even if u have a 3060 laptop it will still do well so u won’t need to upgrade every generation except if ur one of the few who want the latest and greatest
Hey Jarrod! Could you do a review on the 6850M and compare it against the RTX cards?
The differences are big because the 3050 laptop have 4Gb of Vram and Desktop 3050 have 8Gb of Vram..... This test is useless. When vram hit 4GB (full) performance degradation is huge. In fact, GPU computational power is similar (many games fps differences are really near) but in game like metro exodus differences are huge. So? Suddently the GPU computational power drop? No. The problem is that metro exodus need way more than 4 GB of Vram with that graphic quality settings. 3050 is a great every day gaming/ esport GPU, but 4 GB of vram is a mistake. 6 GB are perfect....8 Gb maybe too much to handle. For manage full 8GB of vram (with ultra quality texture) is not a job for a 3050.....so are wasted money. RTX3050 is really good for esport at 1080 with normal/High settings where 4gb of vram are right.
Yeah, i have rtx 3050 laptop and pc with gtx 1660 the difference is noticeable and using dlss is point plus for rtx card
Well just goes to highlight why putting 4GB of vram on the RTX 3050 left SO MUCH performance on the table.
An arbitrary limitation that does not exist in desktop 3050s
@@vectivuz1858If the average laptop weight was 20lbs we would be able to reach a higher tdp and lower temperatures but those laptops don't exist.
Always perfect reviews thanks for all bro.
Jared will you still be doing an in depth review of the Asus Flow X16?
Yes. I am still waiting to receive one for review though.
Im not sure why you would expect the 3050 to continue the trend of the laptop gpu being closer to the desktop one when you knew going into this that the laptop 3050 is designed for thin and light laptops because it maxes out at 80w. The 3060 can go way closer to the desktop versions tdp because the 3060 laptop max tdp variants are designed for thick desktop replacement laptops.
Um the biggesr differences are cuda core count and memory size. The altop 3060 has more cores than the desktop one while laptop 3050 has less cores than the desktop version. And while 6GB of memory is still enough, 4GB are really starting to show their age even in modern games, not to mention the future.
@@TabalugaDragon the biggest difference in performance is due to tdp limitations. The 3060 can do nearly double the tdp. Thats why the 3060 is close to the desktop version and like you said it also has more CUDA cores but mainly its the TDP
@@TabalugaDragon no the main difference in performance is due to tdp. The difference in cuda cores does account for some of the performance difference but not all. If you want another example, look at the difference between an rtx 2070 80w mobile gpu and a 115w version in a better/bigger laptop.
@@B1u35ky The laptop 3050 can go up to 95 watts, the desktop up to 130 watts, that's about 40% difference.
The laptop 3060 Jarrod tested can go up to 130 watts, the desktop 170 watts, around 35% difference. You sure you don't wanna check your math?
Core count DIRECTLY affects power efficiency(hence why Pascal or 1000 series GPU-s were so close to their desktop versions and why 2000 series wasn't that much behind), and 4GB of memory is a terrible limitation these days.
" look at the difference between an rtx 2070 80w mobile gpu and a 115w version in a better/bigger laptop."
I never said power isn't important. But Core count is even more important. Hence an 80 watt 3060 is like 15% behind the desktop 3060 at half the power while 960m has like half the performance of a desktop 960 at 2\3 the power.
Hence why a 90 watt 2080 super max q has performance of a desktop 2070 which needs more than double the power of this GPU to have as much performance.
@@zsreich check my reply to the first guy
Proving once more that 3060 is the best value you can get out of a laptop
It's a lot of work but it would have been nice to see 3050ti laptop vs 3050 desktop
Great video keep up the good work
Jarrod can you please make a laptop brands tier list 😊
I looked up the definition of thorough in a dictionary and found Jarrod's Tech at the top.
Oof
Thanks Jarrod for including Vray benchmark. 💯
No problem!
laptop buyers are getting shagged by nvidia, thinking they're getting the same desktop performance, i miss the M suffix
hey Jarrod, it's me again😅. What would you choose? Asus Tuf A17 (2022) or Asus Tuf Dash f15(2022)??
i would be really grateful if somebody could reply to this🙃
So the Rtx 3060 laptop is probably the truest to its name
This is so confusing. Why did they drop the M suffix if they're literally a different GPU? 😠
I have an 85W 3050 Ti and the 4GB VRAM sounds low but it seems to run perfectly fine still
Even intensive games like Cyberpunk 2077 at high settings, with DLSS on balanced I get average of 60 FPS in the benchmark, if I drop it to medium settings I get 75 FPS average.
Despite the 4GB VRAM it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, internet bandwagon strikes again. People would have you believe it's equal to a potato without having done any tests themselves.
Kinda obvious, but really helpful considering the market is flooded with cheaper 3050 laptops.
I got an Asus Tuf Dash F15 with a core i7-11370H and RTX 3050 TI laptop GPU. Great performance for it's price, especially with a RAM upgrade.
hey jarrod, are you planning on reviewing the legion 5 2022 ?
i don't understand why they couldn't fit the desktop power limmit in the laptop as most high end gaming laptops have a GPU powerdraw of 175w
8gb of ram should be standard
But not to forget nvidia will always try to squeeze the most money out of our pockets
well its an intentional thing done to cut power usage and heat output since the vram is a hungry part. However, I agree that 8gb should be the minimum standard now for any dedicated card, laptop or not.