I mean once prices come down near MSRP, the 3000 series and the AMD 6000 series are pretty great... It's just that nobody has them yet, and the people that do paid up lol
@@frankguy6843 at least Radeon has better prices and with 6600 XT will further make the market easier for buyers, as prices for a entry GPU will go down, compared to just having (semi) high end GPUs.
@@Subhrajyoti I still think the new entry level should be 6GB GPUs. For desktop and laptops as well. 4GB is getting really close to not enough at all for some bigger games.
4gb is still a no go. I'm not spending almost a thousand dollars on an already handicapped laptop when 2060 laptops go for similar price, performance and have enough vram for 1080p going forward.
and this should be main point in video, at last 2 games are limited because it, and they are new games which suggesting it is a trend. This is not MX tier gpu, and should get only negative review, so Nvidia change same thing next time, but when reviewers are giving pass, we would see 4GB in next gen too.... sad.
I get your point, but think that people buying these laptops have little to 0 knowledge on PC parts and they're not looking to get a 3090 like gaming PC with these. They're most likely looking for something that gets them to play whatever game they like with no effort at all. So these laptops will sell like popcorn because people will see "RTX" and "NVIDIA" on the box and go crazy on them. Also, something we're all ignoring here and I support it despite people hating. 4GB in Turing architecture is not the same as 4GB in Ampere architecture, despite not being as powerful as 6GB or 8GB, you can see that most of the results are acceptable somehow and that's what these "target people" are looking for.
@@AndreyStevn The "target people" are looking for something cheap that will be acceptable, yes. But the issue is they will be throwing their money away because it will not be acceptable for games that will be coming out going forward, especially as we get out of this cross-gen phase of consoles. Budget folks are usually gonna keep their stuff longer because they were barely able to afford it in the first place. Given that, 4 GB is simply not acceptable and should be shouted from the rooftops so that those people with 0 knowledge don't get royally screwed.
I don't think I'm particularly impressed tbh. It's looking like it's just a laptop GTX 1660ti with less VRAM. Yes, it's roughly be $100 less than the 1660ti was at launch, but under normal circumstances you would save as much if not more than that by simply getting a used 1660ti model compared to what it was at launch. The only reason this looks like a good deal is because Nvidia's other offerings aren't good and the market is a mess
I bought a Core i7, 1660Ti laptop two years ago to do work and play an older MMO when I travel, and for the latter it's just fine, capable of presenting a smooth and stutter-free >60 FPS experience at 1080p medium to high settings. For the
@@eazen4GB is unusable for RT. Every modern game is already pretty close to 4GB VRAM even at low-mid settings and without any RT. Activating this means reducing textures (something that has no harm in performace yet huge improvements in graphics) to low or very low for the sake of mediocre RT (Its not posible to use high quality RT either with just 4GB) and big drops in performance. DLSS also isn't great at low resolutions and can't save the day at the resolutions this GPU targets
@@Beefy-Tech Maybe 5 years ago that was true, but I am extremely happy with my medium to high end laptop. 3700X full fat desktop CPU, 2070 115w, 32gb ram 3200mhz, 1tb nvme ssd, 120hz 1080p display. $1900 when heavy gaming for hours the GPU runs at 85 Celsius, the CPU at 75. I've had it over a year and it runs like a dream, and I don't even miss a desktop.
@@shadowhawk320 what make and model is it out of curiousity? The best ways the get a good laptop are from people's personal recommendations after all, so I'll keep it in mind given I ever need something similar.
I would like to see how these lower tier gpus benefit from DLSS without raytracing. What kind of fps gains would you get running the game with DLSS and which would you prefer to use? Higher settings with DLSS or lower ones with native resolution when gaming with a laptop?
@@eazen Depends if they are vram limited in a game. It might look like crap but if like in this video its running at only 10 fps when you know it can do more, then maximum dlss might be required.
Thanks to this video I just picked up an RTX 3050 laptop from micro center for $800. Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3050, 16gb ram, and 512 SSD. It’s great! I’m gonna make a video on it soon.
@@danielmikhail2701 what laptop do you have? I want to buy acer nitro 5 with intel core i5 10300h or 11400h, both with 3050 rtx. What cpu do you recommend?
@@Rin_isobu i just got mine with 11400, its better since it has 6c/12t while 10300 has 4c/8t. Future games will probably make use of multi threads from what I've heard of. Then again, choose whatever fits your pocket
@@aromalkrishnana2032 More like 1250$ if we're talking about the GF65 thin with the rtx 3060, and even if it's limited to 75W it has a mux switch, but yeah, the Legion 5 costs like 1300$ in the US and it's much better than most laptops we have here.
Basically, don't get it if you expect it to be bare minimum acceptable for games that come out in the next few years, because the vram size will begin to bury itself.
@@SF-li9kh You could play every game on 1080p ultra, and most on 1440p ultra. 6GB Vram would not be enough for 1440p in 2 years, but I think the performance of the GPU would be a larger bottleneck than the Vram, since it would most likely not be able to play games on 1440p ultra in 2 years.
@@kanishkparmar Thank you. I usually game on 1080p. How long would you give for 1080p? Textures are becoming more and more heavy in games. I'm very anxious how long I'll be able to play with GTX 3060. I hope it doesn't become like the 3050 which cannot even run Assassin's Creed Valhalla. Just last year a 4GB card could run the latest AC game.
@@SF-li9kh I think that the 3060 would be fine with ultra textures for 2-3 years, there would be some outliers, but it would be fine for 99% of the games. As for other settings, I think that it could game at 1080p ultra 60fps for 2 years in most games, apart from games as unoptimized as Cyberpunk. Then you would have to drop down the settings to high or medium. You could look at how something like the GTX 1060 has done for 5 years, the RTX 3060's path will also be like that, except with lower textures.
@@SF-li9kh I have a 1060 3gb and it can still do 1080p 60fps in every non AAA game i play. its going to die soon, but its lasted 5 years at 1080p. Any current gen card like a 3060, 3060ti, 6600xt, 6700xt ect will last nearly its whole life time at 1080p. its like how even 7 year old cards like the gtx 980 can still duke it out at 720p
Cheapest 3050(60W+15W) laptop in India costs 1000usd with 1X8GB Ram and only 60hz display. The cheapest 1660Ti(80W) laptop in India costs 1000usd with 2x8GB ram and 144hz display. Both have 6 cores 12 threads processor (i5-10500H vs R5 5600H). The other 3050 laptops are in the 1135usd+ range. The choice was clear for me.
When can we expect RX67/6600M reviews?? There are laptops already out with those GPUs but I'm assuming there's still some sort of embargo. Also I'm not sure why I'm unable to find any Victus (R7+RTX SKU) reviews, do laptops also have an embargo date?
ive found a few "reviews" on the 5800h 6600m omens....but the most of them are like your run of the mill "AVG" user/consumer that tried to look up their laptop and prob saw no YT conent....i doubt any of them even 3dmark/firestrike ran or benchmarked any games with a hud/rivatuner showing thermals and wattage/activity and more importantly the wattage and thermals of the 5800h. As the system being a possiblity of pushing a higher zen3 cpu load under games while cooling properly vs....some other zen3 laptops and 120+w gpu.
I'm late to the party but thanks for the review/overview! Just ordered an RTX 3050 laptop for 665€ on sale. In comparison, cheapest RTX 3050 Ti laptop was around 1200€, so it feels like a pretty solid deal. It's a 15.6" IPS 1080p 144hz g-sync/freesync model with an R5 4600H, 8 gb ram, 512 gb nvme, RTX 3050. It got two M.2 slots, so you can expand storage and supports up to 32 gb DDR4 3200. Ordered 16 gb DDR4 3200 Corsair Vengeance to go with it, for 50€. Seemed like an affordable and sensible upgrade.
@@vWhiz thanks man i got my 3050laptop few days it got 120 fps on valorant on the medium settings if im not wrong it was a 40W version im not dissapointed at it since i could play esport titles :D
@@william4ng23 nice that power consumption is really good having fun playing games and not breaking the power bill that’s my style of laptops too I might get one my self thinking about it even tho I have a desktop it’s nice to play the esport games on something smaller and in a different room how much did your one cost and what model because I might buy one
@@vWhiz it was a gf 36 thin model laptop with an i7-10750 with a 8gb of ram and a 552ssd memory card on a 144hz display i got it for like 1000$ since its one of the cheapest budget laptops that i could get around here.
i just got my new laptop which has rtx 3050 4g, i5-11300h and 8gb ram im very pleased for the price, im gonna upgrade my ram as it only costs 60$ more. I can play at 120+ fps in most of games with high graphics and 90+ in UHD, with ray tracing and UHD it drops to 45-60 depending on the game. Its like a gtx 1660 ti but with dsr and ray tracing and more support from nvidia side. Absoultely recommend it for a student who wants to have high quality gaming experience. Downsides is that its not powerful enough to handle multiple 3d applications unless they are built properly, UE4 and blender are fast whereas Substance is a bit of a drag and have to reduce the render output by a level.
I got this laptop earlier this year but the ti version,and i can say i am really enjoying it especially in video editing as the 8 core cpu makes even 4k video editing easy.I dont mind the 4gb vram,because when i bought this laptop i knew about it,but in 2021 thats the minimum,and it actually holds up pretty well in all games at ultra presets,even in halo infinite.
I say this non sarcastically. I have a fond memory of playing Metro Exodus on my 4GB GTX1050 Dell laptop and turning down all the settings to squeeze out every frame, which netted me an avg of 30FPS if I was lucky. The desert map was the worst. Exodus was a brand new title, and it was heavily marketed with RTX cards, so I was so stoked I could play the game on my underwhelming laptop, and I was having a blast. Glad to see that the lowest tier current gen X050 hardware can run Metro Exodus at Ultra with a 40-50 avg FPS. I think that’s so awesome.
Ampere power efficiency is terrible. The RTX 3050 mobile is only 35% faster than the GTX 1650 Ti mobile while consuming about 60% more power (80W vs 50W).
not really these cpu are hardily AMPERE.... look at a 80-100w 3070 vs a 80-100w 2070s or 2080.....thats more of a glimpse of "ampere". Add the same 3070 max q i once owned vs the 2070s max q in the system i have now.....in a game like warzone that offers dlss. The results become even more apparent. Ive owned 2080ti strix/5700xt tuf/5700xt strix all since last summer, as well as a 3070 FE and 3070 Strix at launch. AMPERE is hyper efficicent "by its design".....i try to push my strix to 325w like my 2080ti strix...i get 3070ti results in 3dmark. Yet the 2080ti has 11gb and also scores that range with a large oc and ram oc. The efficicency aspect for me......is when i played non AAA games or capped my games as well to my 21:9 monitors 144hz refresh rate. Compared to the 2080Ti my 3070 is running at laptop power values 60-140w......my 2080ti and 5700xt needed so much more power for the same frame yields. Not to mention the heat the 2080ti and 5700xt(ungodly) would generate when OC/pushed. The 5700xt at 275w and 2ghz oc was at 75-80c 75% fan speed.....the 3070 FE i undervolted at 925mv....to run 1965mhz max and consumed around 260w max......in non AAA games it could run its stock fancurve of 0rpm until 60c.....in moba and other non AAA games the fans wouldnt even turn on.....the 5700xt strix had a 0rpm mode....60c idle. XD. Idk what ppl like you expect splitting hairs between 3050 gpu and a gtx 1650ti and going only 35% faster with etc about tdp like it matters. The 3050 vs previous model optios had to be stripped down to add more rtx cores look at the amount of rastors AMD has put on big navi since navi.....my 5500xt gpu does 100w stock 125w oc......and most laptops beat it....and ppl would rather have a higher wattage 580x or 590x. weird how those people arent crying about rtx 3050s and how they expect better from nvidia....just like the amd fanboys that think FXR is supported and free by every game...and if its so easy to implement why isnt amd in house at ever dev/publisher. Its all the same ppl talking the same bs
Thats because ampere is too much concentrated on shaders and not TMUs. Thats why you dont get 200% more performance for 200% flops. Ampere is more futureproof because as time goes on shaders are more and more important because those operations about textures are shifted from tmus to shaders
@@nwobhm1992 pretty much and amd has a far larger ratio of rastor processors which is more or less to "keep up" with the fast refresh 1080p demands though on fc6 fsr is nice on the 3070 for 1440p maxed everything HD textures i feel compelled to move the res slider to 1.2 or 1.3 to see if i get 60+
Hm, i think 35% more performance with 90% more Power is not exactly a thing to brag about (3050 Vs 1650Ti). But i guess thats what we get with nvidia this days. For me thats not a real uplift.
The point of rtx 3050 is if you DO NOT have any gaming laptop,then you could get rtx 3050 then GTX 1650 for the same price. They do not target who ALREADY HAVE gaming laptop.
Right? Nvidia could have given us nearly the same performance from the 1650ti simply by unlocking not gimping the power of that model. Cost them nothing, but allowed them to charge more for 1660 and 2060 without looking stupid. And 2 years later a 30% performance increase isn’t all that remarkable. All we truly get this generation that is “new” is some ray tracing and dlss support, which run on this weak gpu isn’t going to be great given how few tensor cores it has.
I just got my sister a Lenovo Legion 5 with one of these in it so I am hoping its okay. She only games occasionally so I am thinking this should be fine, I wanted to move up to the 3060 but oddly the 3060 laptops were quite a bit more and I didn't think it worth it for someone who just games casually.
If you'd give detailed graphical setting you used for testing, that'd be great. Because some people are using these benchmarks to know if their hardware is as fast as it should be or not. Thank you
How can you tell "the RTX 3050 is a good replacement for the previous 1650Ti since it offers on average 35% more performance". 10:03 - You are completely disregarding that the 3050 uses 60% more power to give that performance. Since we are talking of laptops power draw is important. Giving 35% more FPS for 60% more power means that the GPU is horseshit. It means it uses 25% more power for just RTX and to be equal in efficiency to a 1650Ti. If this GPU used 50W like the 1650Ti it would be slower than the 1650Ti if DLSS is not used and if it is used then it suffers from VRAM limitation, even more if the main feature is used (RTX). If we are comparing the IPC @ clock or IPC @ TDP like we would for CPUs... it went DOWN. It is a regression in architecture, not an improvement. Sure it has two more features (DLSS/RTX) but it is still a regression in rasterization. My comment is mainly about laptops where power is important, but I argue this treatment should be used even for desktop GPUs, to avoid having 500W+ GPU the next generation. They need to make them better at the same power draw not just increase power to hide regressions in performance/watt.
7:13 Would love to see a 8GB 14gbps desktop version of the RTX3050ti (or heck, laptop too). The midrange 8GB RX480 came out over 5 years ago... no valid reason to go BACKWARDS in memory bandwidth or capacity. The non-TI maybe, but the Ti has GOT to be available in an 8GB option.
Was it due to them boosting the tensor cores in the Ti? I don't know squat about computers but I have been trying to dig and get more info about my laptops performance and stuff.
Not many good reviews talking about the MSI Katana GF76 with 3050ti from what I've found. It's pretty bland and wish someone could do an actual video rather than talk gibberish
@@Michael-bs2yu Well, put simply, if it's a 4GB VRAM model, you'll have to make do with medium settings. Even if the GPU itself is faster than, say, a GTX 1060 6GB, as soon as the game demands more than 4GB, framerate will plunge (as you can see in the video where I timestamped)
Going on a week long business trip and looking to pick up an OK laptop for playing Satisfactory in my downtime. Found a Dell G15 Ryzen edition with a 5600H and 3050 for $749!!! Based on your review, I’m going to scoop this up before it’s gone, thanks HWUB!
As someone who recently purchased a new hp pavillion gaming with ryzen 7 5800h i opted for the one with the rtx 3050 non ti, yes the cpu is certainly overkill for the gpu but i got it on a deal that had me pay the same as i would have for the ryzen 5 equivalent (i initially opted for), so why not?. I though just a few seconds to pay some more for the 3050 ti version... but threw this out the window instantly. Sure it would be the faster gpu but the gigs of vram would most likely negate the performance gains vs the non ti anyways. If the 3050 would have come with 6 or 8 gigs it would have been a no brainer.. but with 4 gigs i don´t see the value. the 3050 non ti is what i consider just a mid-mid range gpu (with the 3060 being high mid range and the 3050 probably in between both but kinda questionable with its 4 gigs of vram)and the 4 gigs of vram, while not that much, should be ok for what the gpu will be able to perform, i mean you won´t be able to run those games with max settings which require more vram anyways cause even if you had more vram the frames would nosedive duo to the "low" gpu power itself. So far it seems i made the right choice, the games i play run perfectly fine with the ryzen 7 rtx 3050 combo, specially as i stay with 1080p and not higher resolutions. Also my gaming habits, the games i play, changed a lot over the years. I certainly am no longer into the newest and most hyped games that probably will require a top notch system to run with all the fancy stuff, so why waste money and spend 500-1000 bucks more on a laptop to run those games perfectly fine which you are most likely never going to play anyways.
I am too planning to buy a ryzen 5 5600h +Gtx 3050 laptop. I too don't buy the latest AAA titles, I mostly buy titles that are on good discount and these are usually older titles so hopefully 3050 laptop will be a good choice for a casual gamer like me
@@Wolf-hd1hr After couple month of ownership i can tell you my ryzen 7 5800h + 3050 non ti serves me well playing the games i enjoy. Currently some world of tanks on ultra with 100-130 fps, battletech (with roguetech mod) capped at 60 fps, purchased some more games during xmas sale but haven´t gotten to play em yet. Cyberpunk should run well enough, granted probably not on ultra with rtx on, but fine with me. Only thing i did was replace the 16gigs of ram with 64 gigs and add a 4 tb ssd + 5tb external hdd.
@@snakeplissken1754 Yeah bro considering I'm a casual gamer I'll be happy playing cyberpunk at medium settings. Also64 gig of ram is definitely over kill. Also dude if you had a budget of buying a 4tb additional ssd, it is surprising to me you simply didn't go out for a 3060 one !
@@Wolf-hd1hr That would have been an option but the 3050 was enough and i just needed storage. As the build in 500gig nvme just isn´t big enough on its own.
@@diamonshade7484 So is Asus Strix G15 Advantage with 5900HX and RX 6800m, literally $1,499 on BestBuy discount. In other words, the HP Omen is garbage.
I got GTX 1660ti for $1000 last year and selling RTX 3050 at same rice point is stupid. Only good thing with RTX 3050 is 35watt variant for Ultrabooks. It's performance is enough to play in the road and at home you have Desktop
It's odd he used Ultra setting on a Supreme hardware eater like CP2077, and then only used medium settings in this Heaven whatever game resulting in unnecessary 120 fps.
i got my 3050 laptop for $980. Though i mainly bought it for software development at school, so the CPU (4800H) and RAM (16GB) were way more important.
Sometimes I feel like this channel fan boys over AMD a bit, but uploads like this prove that I am wrong and you are simply unbiased. Thanks for the content, I'm a sophomore C.S. student and you have helped me out a lot.
They have been unbiased all the time, there was a time everyone would call them amd fanboys, because they were recommending it cause of price performance, but now that amd has turn on his fanbase, you can see that Hardware unboxed keep saying the things as they are, for exampling not recommending the 5700g which is terrible priced cpu.
exactly its not like a r5 3600 is 189$ stiker 169$ on sale like it was literally a year ago.......now amd cant be touched with a stick....as the 10850k is selling for 320$ currently at microcenter....i jsut got a 5800x for 359 myself for my potential end game itx build.....as im selling my main to a friend for bf2042. If ppl think new gpu prices are bad they ought to look at the price of rx 580 or 5500xs on ebay LMAO. This is exactly why laptops sell.
I'm not sure if comparing it to a GTX 1650 is really fair in the context of a laptop. Considering the RTX 3050 sucks almost twice the power, I'm not sure it's an apples to apples comparison.
The laptop market is all over the place. It seems people should only consider any version of the 3060 or the highest tdp 3070. Nothing else makes financial sense. This is coming from someone who bought a 3090.
What are you going to play with this? Tetris? I have a 3080 "max Q" in my new laptop and it barely runs any games, let alone at high details or decent framerates
There is something seriously wrong with your laptop then if it's not capable with that gpu in it.... My radeon 7970 (a desktop class gpu from almost a decade ago) runs most of my games at 1080p medium-high settings just fine. Have you updated all your drivers on the laptop?. Could be bad performance because of that or the igpu in your cpu is being utilized instead of the 3080 max q possibly?. If it's none of those things see if you can get it replaced under warranty as something has to be wrong with it to not perform pretty well anyway.
@@WyattOShea Yeah i did all the basic troubleshooting and it is not the ryzen i gpu either. What is a good benchmark to see if it has the power it should have?
@@kai990 Watch a review or two of a laptop with the same CPU and GPU and see if your performance in any of the games tested (if you have any of them) is similar or massively slower. Should give a pretty good idea how yours should perform.
Meh depends what you game, i play mostly halo infinite, wow, wc3 & cs2. 3050 with an i7 12700 runs steady and stays around 75c cpu 65-70c gou temps, runs smooth enough for me 😊
My main thing is why keep obesssing over Very High in AC Valhala when the card more than finely plays at just one notch down to High? It purposely skews the graphs for a use case that people who buy the devices with the card (and the 3050Ti) won't likely go for (IE Maxing out graphical settings)
I bought asus tuf a15 ryzen 4600h rtx 3050 and the gpu wattage is dropping from 75 to 40 randomly! And its usage is dropping too (100~60) I have the latest driver 527 but I dont know how to fix that.. I tested 3 games and on turbo mode but still same problem.
Got myself a 3050Ti. Not a Heavy gamer and I don’t really mind playing with medium settings(single player game)for the next 3-4 years.It’s not that spectacular but with the Ray Tracing and DLSS, it does the job
something I haven't seen until now: how good is at ENCODING videos? I assume that even this is better than nothing or to hang on on the integrated gpu of the cpus, at least.
Until I found Jarrod's Tech. Now I know that for video editing, the lap and desk are the virtually the same: I can happily sacrifice some FPS for being able to bring the lap everywhere.
I don't get it. There are models between 35 and 80 watt. I really want to know wich version I have. The adapter says 135 watt and the backside of the laptop says 20 x 6.75 (=135), but that version doesn't exist right?
As I know, there’s no different versions of GPU. The same GPU can work with 35-40-50…. watt. So you need to google how much power (TGP) your laptop gives to the GPU. The laptop can consume 135watt but give to GPU only 60/70 watt and the rest is for CPU
Hi, i have a 240hz monitor. When you do your monitor tests and mention the results at 60, 120, 240 ... If i am consistently running around 120fps, do i need to set my screen refresh rate to 120hz to benefit from the downscaling (the results you get at 120) or just leave it at 240?
its more or less an aspect of if your panel displayes overshoot when its running in "adaptive sync" where your system gpu/monitor can automatically change refreshrates on the fly based on available frames. Its largely dependent on the panel and eventual processing/motherboard the manufactuerer implements for their various "settings/presets" and overdrive settings. Its an aspect of responsetimes and frame time/input latency. You would tune your montor to 120hz only if you display worse ghosting/inverseghosting/overshoot from your monitor changing it to there on its own....youd probably benefit more from that as well as putting the overdrive to its 1st level vs faster/fastest. but agian im not sure what monitor/panel you have. If you want to hit 240hz you could by running a lower render res like 720p then upscale it to 1080p.....or down scaling like running 1080p with a 75% render resolution. Or running games with engines that can blur textures to maintain a certain fps threshold like rage 2 per ex. Typically called dynamic resolution/dynamic resolution scaling. To get more than 120 fps. and ultimately better response times.
@@anhiirr so i am using a monitor tested on hardware unboxed and on the overdrive settings they have suggested... if running at 120 fps should i change the display settings or not?
@@JohnSpartan_TTV id say concepts like overdrive should be either off or on its lowest setting above off for 120hz IMO most cases thats your best bet for 120hz or for AAA games you can lock the hz in control panel or nvidia control panel to 120 max so it doesnt try to go higher
I found the Gigabyte G5 GD (3050) and MD (3050 ti) with less than 100USD price difference (after 3050 model’s mail-in rebate). Should I go with the 3050 ti model instead?
The problem is RTX 3050 will likely MSRP at $199 when it hits DIY market. GTX1660S, GPU with similar performance, had MSRP of $229. So, we get 2 gigs less vram and 29 bucks discount. Where's the value in that? This thing should be priced $149 max to offer any meaningful generational upgrade over Turing, but it probably won't be. Plus 4 gigs of vram is making sure that this GPU won't age well.
@@arenzricodexd4409 Yeah, but 128 bit memory bus is less than half the price of 256 bit and both 5600XT and Polaris had it. AMD just wants to increase profit margins that's all. You can see it in financial reports. Charging 379$ for Polaris die size and RX 560/1050 memory bus size GPU is totally unacceptable.
@@rudlzavedno7279 unacceptable? 6600XT is AMD product. they are free to price it the way they like it. the way i see it some pc gamer are just pissed that their hobby becoming more expensive. other than that it is a bit of everything. GDDR6 price end up going up. the same might as well happen to PCB boards. 128 bit might be cheaper than 256 bit one but it might be more expensive than it was in the past. die size did not dictate what kind of price the card should have. for example people are complaining that nvidia Gx104 chip belong to sub $300 segment not sub $600. but at the same time on one really complaining AMD high end GPU that having similar size asking much higher price tag. and ultimately AMD try yo push their share price higher. to keep the investor coming they need to show that the profit margin are improving and they are the right company to invest for better reward.
@@arenzricodexd4409 Yes they are, AMD can price it to stratosphere for all I care. And all I can say to that is that I won't be touching AMD products until they come back down to Earth. That's coming from a former Ati 128 rage pro, 4870, 6780, 580, Vega56, 5600XT owner. I've been ATI/AMD buyer for nearly 30 years and for the first time I'm no longer willing to support the under dog of GPU market, purely because of how they behaved during this semiconductor/crypto crisis. They're not showing any intend to offer the best value for money anymore, so I have no reason to view them differently as I do Ngreedia. I'm buying Intel's DG2 if it's at least half decent just to show middle finger to both of these greedy companies and it's shareholders.
@@rudlzavedno7279 AMD and nvidia are selling product to make money. shareholder invest their money to get better reward for themselves in the future. it is strange for any of this entity are not "greedy". the problem is when consumer want a certain company to be their "hero" and giving them the best deal.
Thanks for the vid, by the time it reaches here it won't probably be that good of a deal anymore, but it's nice that the few lucky ones that get this as MSRP will get a pretty decent deal overall for entry level gaming~ Just a caveat, on the games that are definitely VRAM limited and stuff like AC:Vallhala, would you please also test them on lower graphic settings so that we can also see real world performance on them? A DLSS On comparison would be nice as well, as I think even if using it at 1080p is not ideal, these 3050 and 3050ti would probably benefit a LOT from DLSS giving their VRAM limitations. Thanks for the vid again and love your channel btw! Sad to see the stache go, but it will be for a noble cause lmao
What I found missing (because this is point of view I'm considering 3050ti from) from your 3050ti review, was the fact, that it is a card that can be found in some 13inch thin and lights (two in one) like from Asus-ROG. In this category seems like clear winner, as there seems to be not much competition that are somewhat modern game capable. Yeah, It's on the lower spectrum of TDP, so performance is lower (not sure how much tho, that's the info I'm looking for), but I'm not expecting to see 3060 or 3070 in laptop like that.
Me too, I am actually seeing this video because I want to buy a lightweight laptop mainly for productivity(I already have a powerful pc) and I found one with a Ryzen 7 and a 3050 (the only laptop in its category with a dedicated gpu). To be the fact that I can have a normal (not gaming) laptop with reasonable performance it is what makes this gpu incredible.
cant wait for amd rembrandt, Heres to hoping we can run some midrange e-gpu off usb4's bandwidth. Imagine a fully dedicated cooing system in a laptop for a zen3+ processor to push 45-65w in a game while pushing a 2-300w gpu on an e-gpu enclousre. By then we could find a 6600xt for a good deal. Considering its pci-e4.0 8x. IDk the bandwidth limits of usb4 vs thunderbolt 3 x4. Since some flagship gpu can exceed those bandwidth limits.
I have a MSI Katana gf76 w/etc 3050ti and 16gb ram with i7 11800H. It has worked fully fine for me on GTA V, Hell Let Loose, Battlefield 5, Battlefield 2042. I play on high settings. Typically I only run it 3/4 of it's ability. Coming from console, it's been nice. I also have a XBX also so I have been comparing. I like seeing how games look on console vs on a budget gaming laptop. I only paid $1,058 out the door for mine. They want more now a year later for the same laptop. GTA I get almost 100fps on high/very high
If the 3060 with minimum tdp were the first version of the 3050 the things will be so sooo much better, and the 3070 minimum tdp version were the 3060 with 8gb vram, so then we would have a so much better options for gpus on the market in the today's crazy commerce of hardware components
nah nvidia figured out what it was doing the second the 1660ti beat the 1070 max q. Now they just push out 3050s....so that laptop manufactures have an excuse to push out intel chips.
majorly bc it wont have nearly as many applications that the 50w 1650ti can fulfill n the thin-n light category....i imagine that 3050 if running past 60w to be a major draw on the potential cpu load capable in games/shared loads. May not be as big a deal with a 3070/max q or up....but with a system that essentially needs both running unlike the sub 30w cpus on laptops with bigger gpu....
i have an old powerspec laptop with an i7 7700hq and 1070m and 16gb 2666 ram. got it for 350usd. got the cpu locked at 3.4 all core with throttle stop and liquid metal. stays below 80C maxed out and would most likely stomp this 3050 in most games 1080p
The one GPU in all of Nvidia's 3k lineup that looks good on paper is the 3080 Laptop with 16Gb RAM. That would of been a beast as the desktop 3070 instead of the turd we actually got.
yep i own a 3070 fe and a 3070 strix........and 8gb felt like a nurf out of the box im on 21:9 1440p sold a 2080TI strix for 800$ and got a 5700xt tuf evo awaiting the 3070 launch which i exchanged it for. 8gb vram felt like i hit my limit it was like running the 2080ti...granted(500$ for the fe 534 after tax)....i dont see myself using one for 4k with dlss...as id rather have more vram even amd wins here bc its not like we can even enable g-sync on 4k given the frames. I will be waiting for the 3070 super and 3080 super to step up to a more vram more 4k capable gpu. Ill be selling my 3070s to friends on 1440p 16:9 which IMO is the true limit of that gpu. I had little to no VRAM to stream to show my friends the various AAA titles on max on 21:9. In part to the 8gb of which i felt i could have streamed with the 2080ti. Given the price of a 2080ti and ability to sell it, thats the only reason i moved to ampere was for their cards at MSRP pricing.
I have Asus TUF Dash f15 gaming. It has a RTX 3050. I get only 100 fps in Rainbow Six Siege in low setting and the same in Very high setting. In the benchmarks it got 200+ fps . So any fix?
You need to see the TGP of your RTX 3050, if you're running in dual-channel, if Optimus is enabled or disabled(If that's available). That RTX 3050 tested here is the highest TGP option. Some OEMs use lower TGP, as the RTX 3050 can be configured ranging from 35W to 80W.
Reviews take time, Unless sponsored, it'll cost them money too, They may not see there being much demand for that laptop or they feel that it could be redundant (ie, other youtubers already did it, or they maybe did a similarish laptop) To name a few reasons
If you don't plan on memory overclocking (which is money out the window for the performance gain you're getting) then get a H510. Just make sure you watch a few reviews of the specific motherboard you're getting, as this generation there has been some real fucking duds with cheap Intel boards (VRM issues).
i own the MSI GF63 i5-10500H + rtx3050. In my channel, i did post some benchmarks. My RTX3050 was only able to go about 35-40w of power. I believe that is the limitation of 3050. But, someone told me GF65/66 can push the watt to 80w.
Ngl this year idk what tf Nvidia is doing but smartness is in sticking with your old 1660ti and if u want to buy new then try to save Fo whatever u can but get a 3060 laptop , thank me later This year Nvidia is just being poop head
On one hand I can see why Nvidia isn't releasing these garbage doa products on desktop, imagine the backlash asking 250$ msrp for a vram limited product just because of rtx taxes. Still on the other not having budget options stink.
Will the Rtx 3050 much better than the 1650? Is the 300 dollar upgrade be worth it? Also will the Rtx 3050 last for a long time? Helpful responses will benefit me so please respond if you have the information
Is ~35% better in average, and with dlss even more. The vram is the problem in the future, probably you can play all the games, but Triple A next gen games in mid setting bcz the 4gb vram...
If you could limit power to the RTX3050 to 45W or 50W and benchmark those, it'd be great. At 80W and above, an RTX2060 2nd hand might be preferable if it's cheaper.
Still a bad value. If I'm going for the best bang for your buck, I would go for a 1660ti or 2060 max p laptop since they most likely would have fallen in price
"At least it's not a downgrade.." That how you know times are not great for gaming.
I mean once prices come down near MSRP, the 3000 series and the AMD 6000 series are pretty great... It's just that nobody has them yet, and the people that do paid up lol
@@frankguy6843 at least Radeon has better prices and with 6600 XT will further make the market easier for buyers, as prices for a entry GPU will go down, compared to just having (semi) high end GPUs.
Nothing is better till now but i think end user still buy new laptop when desktop pc partition's price still high as heck
honestly saying if they lower the msrp by 50 dollars for 3050 its the best value king
@@Subhrajyoti I still think the new entry level should be 6GB GPUs. For desktop and laptops as well. 4GB is getting really close to not enough at all for some bigger games.
4gb is still a no go. I'm not spending almost a thousand dollars on an already handicapped laptop when 2060 laptops go for similar price, performance and have enough vram for 1080p going forward.
and this should be main point in video, at last 2 games are limited because it, and they are new games which suggesting it is a trend.
This is not MX tier gpu, and should get only negative review, so Nvidia change same thing next time, but when reviewers are giving pass, we would see 4GB in next gen too.... sad.
I get your point, but think that people buying these laptops have little to 0 knowledge on PC parts and they're not looking to get a 3090 like gaming PC with these. They're most likely looking for something that gets them to play whatever game they like with no effort at all. So these laptops will sell like popcorn because people will see "RTX" and "NVIDIA" on the box and go crazy on them.
Also, something we're all ignoring here and I support it despite people hating. 4GB in Turing architecture is not the same as 4GB in Ampere architecture, despite not being as powerful as 6GB or 8GB, you can see that most of the results are acceptable somehow and that's what these "target people" are looking for.
4gb on a gaming GPU in 2021 is amazingly poor form. Considering the results. a 3030? Yep. But 3050 needs 6gb IMO. :/
@@AndreyStevn The "target people" are looking for something cheap that will be acceptable, yes. But the issue is they will be throwing their money away because it will not be acceptable for games that will be coming out going forward, especially as we get out of this cross-gen phase of consoles.
Budget folks are usually gonna keep their stuff longer because they were barely able to afford it in the first place. Given that, 4 GB is simply not acceptable and should be shouted from the rooftops so that those people with 0 knowledge don't get royally screwed.
Nvidias usual practice, use the lowest vram amount feasibly possible. But this gen they have taken it too far.
I wish AMD hurries with their budget mobile GPUs.
Me too,but that's not gonna happen when 6800Ms are flying off the shelves.
According to rumors even their rx 6500 should have both 4gb and 8gb, with 8gb being expensive and harder to find as always.
There's the RX 560X for entry level.
I don't think I'm particularly impressed tbh. It's looking like it's just a laptop GTX 1660ti with less VRAM. Yes, it's roughly be $100 less than the 1660ti was at launch, but under normal circumstances you would save as much if not more than that by simply getting a used 1660ti model compared to what it was at launch. The only reason this looks like a good deal is because Nvidia's other offerings aren't good and the market is a mess
I bought a Core i7, 1660Ti laptop two years ago to do work and play an older MMO when I travel, and for the latter it's just fine, capable of presenting a smooth and stutter-free >60 FPS experience at 1080p medium to high settings. For the
Doesn't the 1660 Ti have 6 GB vram and thus fully usable ? This 3050 is garbage aside from DLSS and barely usable RT.
@@eazen It does have 6GB of VRAM, but no RT cores. My game doesn't have and will never have RT.
@@eazen4GB is unusable for RT. Every modern game is already pretty close to 4GB VRAM even at low-mid settings and without any RT. Activating this means reducing textures (something that has no harm in performace yet huge improvements in graphics) to low or very low for the sake of mediocre RT (Its not posible to use high quality RT either with just 4GB) and big drops in performance. DLSS also isn't great at low resolutions and can't save the day at the resolutions this GPU targets
My guess is DLSS will be the selling point of 3050 over 1650,1660
I've learned the hard way that getting a laptop for gaming is just a very expensive way of setting yourself up for disappointment😂.
what about high end laptop??
even more expensive disappointment
@@Beefy-Tech the new razor blade 14 is actually pretty great
@@Beefy-Tech Maybe 5 years ago that was true, but I am extremely happy with my medium to high end laptop.
3700X full fat desktop CPU, 2070 115w, 32gb ram 3200mhz, 1tb nvme ssd, 120hz 1080p display. $1900
when heavy gaming for hours the GPU runs at 85 Celsius, the CPU at 75. I've had it over a year and it runs like a dream, and I don't even miss a desktop.
@@shadowhawk320 what make and model is it out of curiousity? The best ways the get a good laptop are from people's personal recommendations after all, so I'll keep it in mind given I ever need something similar.
I would like to see how these lower tier gpus benefit from DLSS without raytracing. What kind of fps gains would you get running the game with DLSS and which would you prefer to use? Higher settings with DLSS or lower ones with native resolution when gaming with a laptop?
maybe 50ish%
At 1080p I would only use Quality setting, Balanced could already look like shite, but maybe not seeable on the small monitor, who knows.
@@eazen Depends if they are vram limited in a game. It might look like crap but if like in this video its running at only 10 fps when you know it can do more, then maximum dlss might be required.
@N0 One454 How much did that laptop cost you?
Just select amd version that works on all nvidia cards .
Faster with lower gpu series.
Thanks to this video I just picked up an RTX 3050 laptop from micro center for $800. Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3050, 16gb ram, and 512 SSD. It’s great! I’m gonna make a video on it soon.
how is it so far??
@@ChrisxStyleZ I think it’s great. I’m getting well over 120 fps in call of duty black ops Cold War.
wow for only $800?
@@danielmikhail2701 what laptop do you have? I want to buy acer nitro 5 with intel core i5 10300h or 11400h, both with 3050 rtx. What cpu do you recommend?
@@Rin_isobu i just got mine with 11400, its better since it has 6c/12t while 10300 has 4c/8t. Future games will probably make use of multi threads from what I've heard of. Then again, choose whatever fits your pocket
Rtx 3060 laptops at 1000 are better priced imho.
In my country the cheapest 3060 laptop is priced at 1500 dollar,whereas the cheapest 3050 laptop is priced at 1000 dollar.
@@aromalkrishnana2032 More like 1250$ if we're talking about the GF65 thin with the rtx 3060, and even if it's limited to 75W it has a mux switch, but yeah, the Legion 5 costs like 1300$ in the US and it's much better than most laptops we have here.
@@santhoshsridhar5887 in usa maybe but he said his country which is probably not usa bro.
@@aromalkrishnana2032 buy a rtx 2060 laptop maybe
@@Joker-no1fz the cheaper ones are out of stock and the others are priced close to a 3060💀. I hate my life.
When you shave it off, you should put it in a little urn. Call it the Taches and make it an overclockers trophy.
Basically, don't get it if you expect it to be bare minimum acceptable for games that come out in the next few years, because the vram size will begin to bury itself.
How about 3060 with 6GB VRAM. Can I play games in 5 years time ? I'm planning to get one
@@SF-li9kh You could play every game on 1080p ultra, and most on 1440p ultra. 6GB Vram would not be enough for 1440p in 2 years, but I think the performance of the GPU would be a larger bottleneck than the Vram, since it would most likely not be able to play games on 1440p ultra in 2 years.
@@kanishkparmar Thank you. I usually game on 1080p. How long would you give for 1080p? Textures are becoming more and more heavy in games. I'm very anxious how long I'll be able to play with GTX 3060. I hope it doesn't become like the 3050 which cannot even run Assassin's Creed Valhalla. Just last year a 4GB card could run the latest AC game.
@@SF-li9kh I think that the 3060 would be fine with ultra textures for 2-3 years, there would be some outliers, but it would be fine for 99% of the games. As for other settings, I think that it could game at 1080p ultra 60fps for 2 years in most games, apart from games as unoptimized as Cyberpunk. Then you would have to drop down the settings to high or medium. You could look at how something like the GTX 1060 has done for 5 years, the RTX 3060's path will also be like that, except with lower textures.
@@SF-li9kh I have a 1060 3gb and it can still do 1080p 60fps in every non AAA game i play. its going to die soon, but its lasted 5 years at 1080p. Any current gen card like a 3060, 3060ti, 6600xt, 6700xt ect will last nearly its whole life time at 1080p. its like how even 7 year old cards like the gtx 980 can still duke it out at 720p
Cheapest 3050(60W+15W) laptop in India costs 1000usd with 1X8GB Ram and only 60hz display.
The cheapest 1660Ti(80W) laptop in India costs 1000usd with 2x8GB ram and 144hz display.
Both have 6 cores 12 threads processor (i5-10500H vs R5 5600H).
The other 3050 laptops are in the 1135usd+ range.
The choice was clear for me.
Is that 1660Ti laptop the HP Omen 15?
@@supernova1660 MSI GF65 Thin (Have covered it in detail in my channel)
When can we expect RX67/6600M reviews??
There are laptops already out with those GPUs but I'm assuming there's still some sort of embargo.
Also I'm not sure why I'm unable to find any Victus (R7+RTX SKU) reviews, do laptops also have an embargo date?
ive found a few "reviews" on the 5800h 6600m omens....but the most of them are like your run of the mill "AVG" user/consumer that tried to look up their laptop and prob saw no YT conent....i doubt any of them even 3dmark/firestrike ran or benchmarked any games with a hud/rivatuner showing thermals and wattage/activity and more importantly the wattage and thermals of the 5800h. As the system being a possiblity of pushing a higher zen3 cpu load under games while cooling properly vs....some other zen3 laptops and 120+w gpu.
me looks at my 1660ti laptop 🤔 dont worry your still relevant pal 😊
@@_qwe_fk_1700 what games what fps
Came here for this. Whew..
Throw that sht away
It's very bad tho
For pre- 2018 games
I'm late to the party but thanks for the review/overview! Just ordered an RTX 3050 laptop for 665€ on sale. In comparison, cheapest RTX 3050 Ti laptop was around 1200€, so it feels like a pretty solid deal. It's a 15.6" IPS 1080p 144hz g-sync/freesync model with an R5 4600H, 8 gb ram, 512 gb nvme, RTX 3050. It got two M.2 slots, so you can expand storage and supports up to 32 gb DDR4 3200. Ordered 16 gb DDR4 3200 Corsair Vengeance to go with it, for 50€. Seemed like an affordable and sensible upgrade.
Oh nooo
Not worth imo. They will be handicapped by 4GB VRAM. Its better to buy higher wattage version of 2060 laptops or RTX 3060 laptops.
I got a 3050 because i didnt had the budget to afford the 2060 and the 1660ti well im prolly just going to be playing esports tittle game anyways :p
@@william4ng23 cool enjoy it man
@@vWhiz thanks man i got my 3050laptop few days it got 120 fps on valorant on the medium settings if im not wrong it was a 40W version im not dissapointed at it since i could play esport titles :D
@@william4ng23 nice that power consumption is really good having fun playing games and not breaking the power bill that’s my style of laptops too I might get one my self thinking about it even tho I have a desktop it’s nice to play the esport games on something smaller and in a different room how much did your one cost and what model because I might buy one
@@vWhiz it was a gf 36 thin model laptop with an i7-10750 with a 8gb of ram and a 552ssd memory card on a 144hz display i got it for like 1000$ since its one of the cheapest budget laptops that i could get around here.
i just got my new laptop which has rtx 3050 4g, i5-11300h and 8gb ram im very pleased for the price, im gonna upgrade my ram as it only costs 60$ more. I can play at 120+ fps in most of games with high graphics and 90+ in UHD, with ray tracing and UHD it drops to 45-60 depending on the game.
Its like a gtx 1660 ti but with dsr and ray tracing and more support from nvidia side.
Absoultely recommend it for a student who wants to have high quality gaming experience.
Downsides is that its not powerful enough to handle multiple 3d applications unless they are built properly, UE4 and blender are fast whereas Substance is a bit of a drag and have to reduce the render output by a level.
i'm planning on buying the same config, is substance painter not working great on your laptop tho?
I got this laptop earlier this year but the ti version,and i can say i am really enjoying it especially in video editing as the 8 core cpu makes even 4k video editing easy.I dont mind the 4gb vram,because when i bought this laptop i knew about it,but in 2021 thats the minimum,and it actually holds up pretty well in all games at ultra presets,even in halo infinite.
I say this non sarcastically. I have a fond memory of playing Metro Exodus on my 4GB GTX1050 Dell laptop and turning down all the settings to squeeze out every frame, which netted me an avg of 30FPS if I was lucky. The desert map was the worst. Exodus was a brand new title, and it was heavily marketed with RTX cards, so I was so stoked I could play the game on my underwhelming laptop, and I was having a blast. Glad to see that the lowest tier current gen X050 hardware can run Metro Exodus at Ultra with a 40-50 avg FPS. I think that’s so awesome.
The problem is in my country a full 130W RTX 3060 costs exacly the same as the RTX 3050
In my country rtx 3050 laptop cost more than rtx 3060 laptops
Im serious
Ampere power efficiency is terrible. The RTX 3050 mobile is only 35% faster than the GTX 1650 Ti mobile while consuming about 60% more power (80W vs 50W).
not really these cpu are hardily AMPERE.... look at a 80-100w 3070 vs a 80-100w 2070s or 2080.....thats more of a glimpse of "ampere". Add the same 3070 max q i once owned vs the 2070s max q in the system i have now.....in a game like warzone that offers dlss. The results become even more apparent. Ive owned 2080ti strix/5700xt tuf/5700xt strix all since last summer, as well as a 3070 FE and 3070 Strix at launch. AMPERE is hyper efficicent "by its design".....i try to push my strix to 325w like my 2080ti strix...i get 3070ti results in 3dmark. Yet the 2080ti has 11gb and also scores that range with a large oc and ram oc. The efficicency aspect for me......is when i played non AAA games or capped my games as well to my 21:9 monitors 144hz refresh rate. Compared to the 2080Ti my 3070 is running at laptop power values 60-140w......my 2080ti and 5700xt needed so much more power for the same frame yields. Not to mention the heat the 2080ti and 5700xt(ungodly) would generate when OC/pushed. The 5700xt at 275w and 2ghz oc was at 75-80c 75% fan speed.....the 3070 FE i undervolted at 925mv....to run 1965mhz max and consumed around 260w max......in non AAA games it could run its stock fancurve of 0rpm until 60c.....in moba and other non AAA games the fans wouldnt even turn on.....the 5700xt strix had a 0rpm mode....60c idle. XD. Idk what ppl like you expect splitting hairs between 3050 gpu and a gtx 1650ti and going only 35% faster with etc about tdp like it matters. The 3050 vs previous model optios had to be stripped down to add more rtx cores look at the amount of rastors AMD has put on big navi since navi.....my 5500xt gpu does 100w stock 125w oc......and most laptops beat it....and ppl would rather have a higher wattage 580x or 590x. weird how those people arent crying about rtx 3050s and how they expect better from nvidia....just like the amd fanboys that think FXR is supported and free by every game...and if its so easy to implement why isnt amd in house at ever dev/publisher. Its all the same ppl talking the same bs
Thats because ampere is too much concentrated on shaders and not TMUs. Thats why you dont get 200% more performance for 200% flops. Ampere is more futureproof because as time goes on shaders are more and more important because those operations about textures are shifted from tmus to shaders
@@nwobhm1992 pretty much and amd has a far larger ratio of rastor processors which is more or less to "keep up" with the fast refresh 1080p demands though on fc6 fsr is nice on the 3070 for 1440p maxed everything HD textures i feel compelled to move the res slider to 1.2 or 1.3 to see if i get 60+
Imagine the cheek of them calling out rtx as if it can run rtx on anything above 480p
Hm, i think 35% more performance with 90% more Power is not exactly a thing to brag about (3050 Vs 1650Ti). But i guess thats what we get with nvidia this days. For me thats not a real uplift.
It also costs like $200 more than 1650 laptops. Theres 4600h + 1650 ones for $700ish.
Sound like intel you talked about, power hungry.
The point of rtx 3050 is if you DO NOT have any gaming laptop,then you could get rtx 3050 then GTX 1650 for the same price. They do not target who ALREADY HAVE gaming laptop.
Right? Nvidia could have given us nearly the same performance from the 1650ti simply by unlocking not gimping the power of that model. Cost them nothing, but allowed them to charge more for 1660 and 2060 without looking stupid. And 2 years later a 30% performance increase isn’t all that remarkable. All we truly get this generation that is “new” is some ray tracing and dlss support, which run on this weak gpu isn’t going to be great given how few tensor cores it has.
@@adikgaming7544 Mate, in a lot of places the 1650 ones with a 4600h are a good $200 less than the 3050 ones.
Nvidia's a joke in low end
I am sure it will be better than my i3 with integrated graphics!😂
costs more than your i3 too
exactly still better then GT730 2GB gddr5 kepler 2.0
@@czbrat Son , i think know the prices of Hardware!
@@TubbysWorld4413Oh, I wasn't sure because you were comparing your intel integrated graphics to an RTX GPU.
I just got my sister a Lenovo Legion 5 with one of these in it so I am hoping its okay. She only games occasionally so I am thinking this should be fine, I wanted to move up to the 3060 but oddly the 3060 laptops were quite a bit more and I didn't think it worth it for someone who just games casually.
If you'd give detailed graphical setting you used for testing, that'd be great. Because some people are using these benchmarks to know if their hardware is as fast as it should be or not. Thank you
I picked up a 3050/ 11400 /16gb dual ram /120hrz display at microcenter new for $400. Can't beat it at that price.
How can you tell "the RTX 3050 is a good replacement for the previous 1650Ti since it offers on average 35% more performance". 10:03 - You are completely disregarding that the 3050 uses 60% more power to give that performance. Since we are talking of laptops power draw is important. Giving 35% more FPS for 60% more power means that the GPU is horseshit. It means it uses 25% more power for just RTX and to be equal in efficiency to a 1650Ti. If this GPU used 50W like the 1650Ti it would be slower than the 1650Ti if DLSS is not used and if it is used then it suffers from VRAM limitation, even more if the main feature is used (RTX). If we are comparing the IPC @ clock or IPC @ TDP like we would for CPUs... it went DOWN. It is a regression in architecture, not an improvement. Sure it has two more features (DLSS/RTX) but it is still a regression in rasterization.
My comment is mainly about laptops where power is important, but I argue this treatment should be used even for desktop GPUs, to avoid having 500W+ GPU the next generation. They need to make them better at the same power draw not just increase power to hide regressions in performance/watt.
7:13
Would love to see a 8GB 14gbps desktop version of the RTX3050ti (or heck, laptop too). The midrange 8GB RX480 came out over 5 years ago... no valid reason to go BACKWARDS in memory bandwidth or capacity. The non-TI maybe, but the Ti has GOT to be available in an 8GB option.
Was it due to them boosting the tensor cores in the Ti? I don't know squat about computers but I have been trying to dig and get more info about my laptops performance and stuff.
Not many good reviews talking about the MSI Katana GF76 with 3050ti from what I've found. It's pretty bland and wish someone could do an actual video rather than talk gibberish
@@Michael-bs2yu Well, put simply, if it's a 4GB VRAM model, you'll have to make do with medium settings. Even if the GPU itself is faster than, say, a GTX 1060 6GB, as soon as the game demands more than 4GB, framerate will plunge (as you can see in the video where I timestamped)
Going on a week long business trip and looking to pick up an OK laptop for playing Satisfactory in my downtime. Found a Dell G15 Ryzen edition with a 5600H and 3050 for $749!!! Based on your review, I’m going to scoop this up before it’s gone, thanks HWUB!
As someone who recently purchased a new hp pavillion gaming with ryzen 7 5800h i opted for the one with the rtx 3050 non ti, yes the cpu is certainly overkill for the gpu but i got it on a deal that had me pay the same as i would have for the ryzen 5 equivalent (i initially opted for), so why not?.
I though just a few seconds to pay some more for the 3050 ti version... but threw this out the window instantly. Sure it would be the faster gpu but the gigs of vram would most likely negate the performance gains vs the non ti anyways. If the 3050 would have come with 6 or 8 gigs it would have been a no brainer.. but with 4 gigs i don´t see the value.
the 3050 non ti is what i consider just a mid-mid range gpu (with the 3060 being high mid range and the 3050 probably in between both but kinda questionable with its 4 gigs of vram)and the 4 gigs of vram, while not that much, should be ok for what the gpu will be able to perform, i mean you won´t be able to run those games with max settings which require more vram anyways cause even if you had more vram the frames would nosedive duo to the "low" gpu power itself.
So far it seems i made the right choice, the games i play run perfectly fine with the ryzen 7 rtx 3050 combo, specially as i stay with 1080p and not higher resolutions. Also my gaming habits, the games i play, changed a lot over the years. I certainly am no longer into the newest and most hyped games that probably will require a top notch system to run with all the fancy stuff, so why waste money and spend 500-1000 bucks more on a laptop to run those games perfectly fine which you are most likely never going to play anyways.
I am too planning to buy a ryzen 5 5600h +Gtx 3050 laptop. I too don't buy the latest AAA titles, I mostly buy titles that are on good discount and these are usually older titles so hopefully 3050 laptop will be a good choice for a casual gamer like me
@@Wolf-hd1hr After couple month of ownership i can tell you my ryzen 7 5800h + 3050 non ti serves me well playing the games i enjoy.
Currently some world of tanks on ultra with 100-130 fps, battletech (with roguetech mod) capped at 60 fps, purchased some more games during xmas sale but haven´t gotten to play em yet.
Cyberpunk should run well enough, granted probably not on ultra with rtx on, but fine with me.
Only thing i did was replace the 16gigs of ram with 64 gigs and add a 4 tb ssd + 5tb external hdd.
@@snakeplissken1754 Yeah bro considering I'm a casual gamer I'll be happy playing cyberpunk at medium settings. Also64 gig of ram is definitely over kill. Also dude if you had a budget of buying a 4tb additional ssd, it is surprising to me you simply didn't go out for a 3060 one !
@@Wolf-hd1hr That would have been an option but the 3050 was enough and i just needed storage. As the build in 500gig nvme just isn´t big enough on its own.
15:17 "So we'll be shaving this moustache very shortly"
So you're saying it'll survive?!?!
i dont like his moustache
Can't wait for your rx 6700m and rx 6600m reviews to see what amd has to offer in the mobile space after the impressive rx 6800m
The hp omen16 with 6600m is like 1500$ on best buy
@@diamonshade7484 that's awful
The ryzen 9 5900hx and 6800m should cost 1649 in the rog strix g15 amd advantage edition
@@theigpugamer yea and no has review or talked about it
@@diamonshade7484 So is Asus Strix G15 Advantage with 5900HX and RX 6800m, literally $1,499 on BestBuy discount. In other words, the HP Omen is garbage.
@@mini9503 didn't that end
Ah yes, an RTX 3050 laptop, ray traced gaming at 9 fps.
DLSS
Quake ll rtx run at 40fps in max settings 1080p in my acer nitro 5 rtx 3050
i doubt people who buy 3050 wanna play with ray tracing and utlra -high graphics.
@@enderfrisk2059 change ram your laptop is underperforming
Bro I play metro exodus enhanced edition with medium texture high fov and ray tracing and dlss enabled I get 55 to 40 fps
I'd be willing to buy your moustache
I got GTX 1660ti for $1000 last year and selling RTX 3050 at same rice point is stupid.
Only good thing with RTX 3050 is 35watt variant for Ultrabooks. It's performance is enough to play in the road and at home you have Desktop
It's unfortunate that I have to buy a new laptop but only have 1650 laptops available in its price range.
Playing at ultra on a 15 inch feels like a waste of energy. Would love a medium and high quality settings comparison
It's odd he used Ultra setting on a Supreme hardware eater like CP2077, and then only used medium settings in this Heaven whatever game resulting in unnecessary 120 fps.
GTX 1650 laptops (non Ti) are at around $800 here, and the RTX 3050 ones are at $1100. What a time to be alive....
i got my 3050 laptop for $980. Though i mainly bought it for software development at school, so the CPU (4800H) and RAM (16GB) were way more important.
Got mine for 600$ with the rtx 3050, it will last 4 years at most but that s not bad in my opinion. i usually change laptop every 4 to 5 years.
Sometimes I feel like this channel fan boys over AMD a bit, but uploads like this prove that I am wrong and you are simply unbiased.
Thanks for the content, I'm a sophomore C.S. student and you have helped me out a lot.
They have been unbiased all the time, there was a time everyone would call them amd fanboys, because they were recommending it cause of price performance, but now that amd has turn on his fanbase, you can see that Hardware unboxed keep saying the things as they are, for exampling not recommending the 5700g which is terrible priced cpu.
Always remember that Hardware Unboxed is value oriented. They don't fawn over epic-mega-super-stellar performance if it costs an arm and a leg.
exactly its not like a r5 3600 is 189$ stiker 169$ on sale like it was literally a year ago.......now amd cant be touched with a stick....as the 10850k is selling for 320$ currently at microcenter....i jsut got a 5800x for 359 myself for my potential end game itx build.....as im selling my main to a friend for bf2042. If ppl think new gpu prices are bad they ought to look at the price of rx 580 or 5500xs on ebay LMAO. This is exactly why laptops sell.
I'm not sure if comparing it to a GTX 1650 is really fair in the context of a laptop. Considering the RTX 3050 sucks almost twice the power, I'm not sure it's an apples to apples comparison.
True but it’s fun…to know since I gave my son my older laptop with a 1650…
TO EVERYONE CONSIDERING NOW
Nitro 5 is 200 dollars off at 684 dollars at amazon for black friday. 3050 i5 256 ssd 8gb ddr4
I found one of these for $680, very excited
are u still excited conner
The laptop market is all over the place. It seems people should only consider any version of the 3060 or the highest tdp 3070. Nothing else makes financial sense.
This is coming from someone who bought a 3090.
Nice background, the Technic crane caught my eye~ XD
What are you going to play with this? Tetris? I have a 3080 "max Q" in my new laptop and it barely runs any games, let alone at high details or decent framerates
"Max-Q"
There is the reason.
There is something seriously wrong with your laptop then if it's not capable with that gpu in it.... My radeon 7970 (a desktop class gpu from almost a decade ago) runs most of my games at 1080p medium-high settings just fine. Have you updated all your drivers on the laptop?. Could be bad performance because of that or the igpu in your cpu is being utilized instead of the 3080 max q possibly?. If it's none of those things see if you can get it replaced under warranty as something has to be wrong with it to not perform pretty well anyway.
@@WyattOShea Yeah i did all the basic troubleshooting and it is not the ryzen i gpu either. What is a good benchmark to see if it has the power it should have?
@@kai990 Watch a review or two of a laptop with the same CPU and GPU and see if your performance in any of the games tested (if you have any of them) is similar or massively slower. Should give a pretty good idea how yours should perform.
can you also compare the lowest TGP variant of the 30 series? Like the ones found in ROG Flow X13?
What is the point of putting a 144 Hz panel in a machine that can't hit 60 FPS at 1080p in most titles at normal graphics settings?
Or calling it an "RTX" GPU, as if it can handle ray tracing.
ESports games :)
SC:GO at the usual potato settings will bottleneck the CPU at 430FPS in this laptop :P
@@andersjjensen Starcraft: Global Offensive?
Meh depends what you game, i play mostly halo infinite, wow, wc3 & cs2. 3050 with an i7 12700 runs steady and stays around 75c cpu 65-70c gou temps, runs smooth enough for me 😊
My main thing is why keep obesssing over Very High in AC Valhala when the card more than finely plays at just one notch down to High?
It purposely skews the graphs for a use case that people who buy the devices with the card (and the 3050Ti) won't likely go for (IE Maxing out graphical settings)
I bought asus tuf a15 ryzen 4600h rtx 3050 and the gpu wattage is dropping from 75 to 40 randomly! And its usage is dropping too (100~60) I have the latest driver 527 but I dont know how to fix that..
I tested 3 games and on turbo mode but still same problem.
Got myself a 3050Ti. Not a Heavy gamer and I don’t really mind playing with medium settings(single player game)for the next 3-4 years.It’s not that spectacular but with the Ray Tracing and DLSS, it does the job
ray tracing?? dude
@@Aggrofool Eh?
What about 4k video editing and rendering?
Thank you so much for this video
something I haven't seen until now: how good is at ENCODING videos?
I assume that even this is better than nothing or to hang on on the integrated gpu of the cpus, at least.
Until I found Jarrod's Tech. Now I know that for video editing, the lap and desk are the virtually the same: I can happily sacrifice some FPS for being able to bring the lap everywhere.
I don't get it. There are models between 35 and 80 watt. I really want to know wich version I have. The adapter says 135 watt and the backside of the laptop says 20 x 6.75 (=135), but that version doesn't exist right?
As I know, there’s no different versions of GPU. The same GPU can work with 35-40-50…. watt. So you need to google how much power (TGP) your laptop gives to the GPU. The laptop can consume 135watt but give to GPU only 60/70 watt and the rest is for CPU
I hate how entry level is two of my paychecks.
Hi, i have a 240hz monitor. When you do your monitor tests and mention the results at 60, 120, 240 ... If i am consistently running around 120fps, do i need to set my screen refresh rate to 120hz to benefit from the downscaling (the results you get at 120) or just leave it at 240?
its more or less an aspect of if your panel displayes overshoot when its running in "adaptive sync" where your system gpu/monitor can automatically change refreshrates on the fly based on available frames. Its largely dependent on the panel and eventual processing/motherboard the manufactuerer implements for their various "settings/presets" and overdrive settings. Its an aspect of responsetimes and frame time/input latency. You would tune your montor to 120hz only if you display worse ghosting/inverseghosting/overshoot from your monitor changing it to there on its own....youd probably benefit more from that as well as putting the overdrive to its 1st level vs faster/fastest. but agian im not sure what monitor/panel you have. If you want to hit 240hz you could by running a lower render res like 720p then upscale it to 1080p.....or down scaling like running 1080p with a 75% render resolution. Or running games with engines that can blur textures to maintain a certain fps threshold like rage 2 per ex. Typically called dynamic resolution/dynamic resolution scaling. To get more than 120 fps. and ultimately better response times.
@@anhiirr so i am using a monitor tested on hardware unboxed and on the overdrive settings they have suggested...
if running at 120 fps should i change the display settings or not?
@@JohnSpartan_TTV id say concepts like overdrive should be either off or on its lowest setting above off for 120hz IMO most cases thats your best bet for 120hz or for AAA games you can lock the hz in control panel or nvidia control panel to 120 max so it doesnt try to go higher
I think RTX 3050 with 4GB VRAM won't last long. GTX 770 from 2013 have a 4GB VRAM variant
I found the Gigabyte G5 GD (3050) and MD (3050 ti) with less than 100USD price difference (after 3050 model’s mail-in rebate). Should I go with the 3050 ti model instead?
What's the metallic squeaking throughout the episode? 🤔
The problem is RTX 3050 will likely MSRP at $199 when it hits DIY market. GTX1660S, GPU with similar performance, had MSRP of $229. So, we get 2 gigs less vram and 29 bucks discount. Where's the value in that? This thing should be priced $149 max to offer any meaningful generational upgrade over Turing, but it probably won't be. Plus 4 gigs of vram is making sure that this GPU won't age well.
GDDR6 are very expensive right now. That's why AMD end up charging $380 for 6600 XT with 8GB VRAM.
@@arenzricodexd4409 Yeah, but 128 bit memory bus is less than half the price of 256 bit and both 5600XT and Polaris had it. AMD just wants to increase profit margins that's all. You can see it in financial reports. Charging 379$ for Polaris die size and RX 560/1050 memory bus size GPU is totally unacceptable.
@@rudlzavedno7279 unacceptable? 6600XT is AMD product. they are free to price it the way they like it. the way i see it some pc gamer are just pissed that their hobby becoming more expensive.
other than that it is a bit of everything. GDDR6 price end up going up. the same might as well happen to PCB boards. 128 bit might be cheaper than 256 bit one but it might be more expensive than it was in the past. die size did not dictate what kind of price the card should have. for example people are complaining that nvidia Gx104 chip belong to sub $300 segment not sub $600. but at the same time on one really complaining AMD high end GPU that having similar size asking much higher price tag. and ultimately AMD try yo push their share price higher. to keep the investor coming they need to show that the profit margin are improving and they are the right company to invest for better reward.
@@arenzricodexd4409 Yes they are, AMD can price it to stratosphere for all I care. And all I can say to that is that I won't be touching AMD products until they come back down to Earth. That's coming from a former Ati 128 rage pro, 4870, 6780, 580, Vega56, 5600XT owner. I've been ATI/AMD buyer for nearly 30 years and for the first time I'm no longer willing to support the under dog of GPU market, purely because of how they behaved during this semiconductor/crypto crisis. They're not showing any intend to offer the best value for money anymore, so I have no reason to view them differently as I do Ngreedia. I'm buying Intel's DG2 if it's at least half decent just to show middle finger to both of these greedy companies and it's shareholders.
@@rudlzavedno7279 AMD and nvidia are selling product to make money. shareholder invest their money to get better reward for themselves in the future. it is strange for any of this entity are not "greedy". the problem is when consumer want a certain company to be their "hero" and giving them the best deal.
Thanks for the vid, by the time it reaches here it won't probably be that good of a deal anymore, but it's nice that the few lucky ones that get this as MSRP will get a pretty decent deal overall for entry level gaming~
Just a caveat, on the games that are definitely VRAM limited and stuff like AC:Vallhala, would you please also test them on lower graphic settings so that we can also see real world performance on them? A DLSS On comparison would be nice as well, as I think even if using it at 1080p is not ideal, these 3050 and 3050ti would probably benefit a LOT from DLSS giving their VRAM limitations.
Thanks for the vid again and love your channel btw! Sad to see the stache go, but it will be for a noble cause lmao
Thanks, glad I got the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro with RTX3060
What I found missing (because this is point of view I'm considering 3050ti from) from your 3050ti review, was the fact, that it is a card that can be found in some 13inch thin and lights (two in one) like from Asus-ROG. In this category seems like clear winner, as there seems to be not much competition that are somewhat modern game capable. Yeah, It's on the lower spectrum of TDP, so performance is lower (not sure how much tho, that's the info I'm looking for), but I'm not expecting to see 3060 or 3070 in laptop like that.
Me too, I am actually seeing this video because I want to buy a lightweight laptop mainly for productivity(I already have a powerful pc) and I found one with a Ryzen 7 and a 3050 (the only laptop in its category with a dedicated gpu). To be the fact that I can have a normal (not gaming) laptop with reasonable performance it is what makes this gpu incredible.
You can't shave your mustache, you won't look like Luigi anymore. Steve will be alone on the Mario side.
He should become Robotnik.
Alternative title: Hardware unboxed ranting about 4 gb vram in 2021.
Part 2
they hate us bc they aint us
cant wait for amd rembrandt, Heres to hoping we can run some midrange e-gpu off usb4's bandwidth. Imagine a fully dedicated cooing system in a laptop for a zen3+ processor to push 45-65w in a game while pushing a 2-300w gpu on an e-gpu enclousre. By then we could find a 6600xt for a good deal. Considering its pci-e4.0 8x. IDk the bandwidth limits of usb4 vs thunderbolt 3 x4. Since some flagship gpu can exceed those bandwidth limits.
I'd like to see a comparison between the 3050 and the 1650 Ti at 50w.
I have a MSI Katana gf76 w/etc 3050ti and 16gb ram with i7 11800H. It has worked fully fine for me on GTA V, Hell Let Loose, Battlefield 5, Battlefield 2042. I play on high settings. Typically I only run it 3/4 of it's ability. Coming from console, it's been nice. I also have a XBX also so I have been comparing. I like seeing how games look on console vs on a budget gaming laptop. I only paid $1,058 out the door for mine. They want more now a year later for the same laptop. GTA I get almost 100fps on high/very high
If the 3060 with minimum tdp were the first version of the 3050 the things will be so sooo much better, and the 3070 minimum tdp version were the 3060 with 8gb vram, so then we would have a so much better options for gpus on the market in the today's crazy commerce of hardware components
nah nvidia figured out what it was doing the second the 1660ti beat the 1070 max q. Now they just push out 3050s....so that laptop manufactures have an excuse to push out intel chips.
I bought a laptop with an rtx 3050, 16GB of DDR5 ram and an AMD Ryzen 5 7535HS/S, for €700, this a good deal or nah?
Will we be seeing RX6600 laptop reviews soon?
So uses 60-90% more power than a 50W 1650 Ti, for 23%-43% more performance. That is a fail in my book.
majorly bc it wont have nearly as many applications that the 50w 1650ti can fulfill n the thin-n light category....i imagine that 3050 if running past 60w to be a major draw on the potential cpu load capable in games/shared loads. May not be as big a deal with a 3070/max q or up....but with a system that essentially needs both running unlike the sub 30w cpus on laptops with bigger gpu....
i have an old powerspec laptop with an i7 7700hq and 1070m and 16gb 2666 ram. got it for 350usd. got the cpu locked at 3.4 all core with throttle stop and liquid metal. stays below 80C maxed out and would most likely stomp this 3050 in most games 1080p
It wouldn't. Matched or little faster depending on the game. In some games the RTX 3050 would pull ahead thanks to Ampere optimizations.
thats a great deal. if the cpu was a little better then it would be perfect
How will you shaving off mustachios help mental health research?
The one GPU in all of Nvidia's 3k lineup that looks good on paper is the 3080 Laptop with 16Gb RAM.
That would of been a beast as the desktop 3070 instead of the turd we actually got.
yep i own a 3070 fe and a 3070 strix........and 8gb felt like a nurf out of the box im on 21:9 1440p sold a 2080TI strix for 800$ and got a 5700xt tuf evo awaiting the 3070 launch which i exchanged it for. 8gb vram felt like i hit my limit it was like running the 2080ti...granted(500$ for the fe 534 after tax)....i dont see myself using one for 4k with dlss...as id rather have more vram even amd wins here bc its not like we can even enable g-sync on 4k given the frames. I will be waiting for the 3070 super and 3080 super to step up to a more vram more 4k capable gpu. Ill be selling my 3070s to friends on 1440p 16:9 which IMO is the true limit of that gpu. I had little to no VRAM to stream to show my friends the various AAA titles on max on 21:9. In part to the 8gb of which i felt i could have streamed with the 2080ti. Given the price of a 2080ti and ability to sell it, thats the only reason i moved to ampere was for their cards at MSRP pricing.
shaving off your mustach is gonna be good for my mental health, all the time you speak in my head i see a crawling hairy catapillar
iteresting...not sure who make this laptop, but here in Brazil we have the "Avell" a brazilian brand that sells the same laptop with their brand
Needed Cuda support for PYTorch, it could be worth it over a iGPU option.
Can we please see comparisions with their desktop GPU counterparts?
Can you review the new Xiaomi Mi 2K 27” Gaming Monitor ?
Need your help, 🙏 I bought ASUS ROG Strix G15, Ryzen 5 5600H, RTX 3050T, 16GB RAM, 512GB PCIe for £778. but IT HAS ONLY 57Wh power, is it bad?
I just bought Dell Inspiron 16 plus , rtx 3050t 4gb, 16gb ram, 1tb sdd, 86 Wh, paid £1049 , i believe i got good deal.
I have Asus TUF Dash f15 gaming. It has a RTX 3050. I get only 100 fps in Rainbow Six Siege in low setting and the same in Very high setting. In the benchmarks it got 200+ fps . So any fix?
You need to see the TGP of your RTX 3050, if you're running in dual-channel, if Optimus is enabled or disabled(If that's available). That RTX 3050 tested here is the highest TGP option. Some OEMs use lower TGP, as the RTX 3050 can be configured ranging from 35W to 80W.
@@Ghostsonplanets Thanks for telling .
Well, I guess I don't have to upgrade for the near future
1660Ti is still good enough
Now we need to know how the RX6600M does :)
Why haven't u not reviewed lg 27gp950
Its bad
@@ishimarumasaki1998 but why it should be reviewed and complain but its 700 dollars
@@ishimarumasaki1998 how do you know and by what standards ?
Reviews take time,
Unless sponsored, it'll cost them money too,
They may not see there being much demand for that laptop or they feel that it could be redundant (ie, other youtubers already did it, or they maybe did a similarish laptop)
To name a few reasons
Should i get a H510 or b560 motherboard for i5 11600k pls tell me im tight on budget 🙏🙏
If you don't plan on memory overclocking (which is money out the window for the performance gain you're getting) then get a H510. Just make sure you watch a few reviews of the specific motherboard you're getting, as this generation there has been some real fucking duds with cheap Intel boards (VRM issues).
if you're on a tight budget you should get a 11400f
My 1050 Ti laptop laughs at 4 GB VRAM. Back to the future.
i own the MSI GF63 i5-10500H + rtx3050. In my channel, i did post some benchmarks. My RTX3050 was only able to go about 35-40w of power. I believe that is the limitation of 3050. But, someone told me GF65/66 can push the watt to 80w.
Have you tried gaming at maximum graphics settings ?
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 i tried skyrim special edition and rainbow six siege. maybe will try another games. but i already have a pc for gaming.
@@fzeo maybe you should check the performance profile in msi gaming center or whatever default software called
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 i set it to gaming performance mode.
gf63 used to have a gtx 1650 max q, probably the same for the rtx 3050
Dang, this thing's so close to my 2060. Now I feel sad for jumping the gun on the 2060 laptop so early
Ngl this year idk what tf Nvidia is doing but smartness is in sticking with your old 1660ti and if u want to buy new then try to save
Fo whatever u can but get a 3060 laptop , thank me later
This year Nvidia is just being poop head
When we can expect for samsung odyssey g9 neo review?
So the news stash will be gone?
On one hand I can see why Nvidia isn't releasing these garbage doa products on desktop, imagine the backlash asking 250$ msrp for a vram limited product just because of rtx taxes. Still on the other not having budget options stink.
I think would be good to throw also benchmark for content creators.
Will the Rtx 3050 much better than the 1650? Is the 300 dollar upgrade be worth it? Also will the Rtx 3050 last for a long time? Helpful responses will benefit me so please respond if you have the information
Is ~35% better in average, and with dlss even more. The vram is the problem in the future, probably you can play all the games, but Triple A next gen games in mid setting bcz the 4gb vram...
Guess I'll stick with my i3-2370M for a few more years.
If you could limit power to the RTX3050 to 45W or 50W and benchmark those, it'd be great. At 80W and above, an RTX2060 2nd hand might be preferable if it's cheaper.
Still a bad value. If I'm going for the best bang for your buck, I would go for a 1660ti or 2060 max p laptop since they most likely would have fallen in price
Many RTX 3050 laptop only eith 40 or 60 watt TGP, interested to see how it will be compared to gtx 1650 mobile
how to check the Watt or TGP of my graphics card bro?