Can A Budget Gaming Laptop Do RTX?
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2022
- I see how well a mobile RTX 3050, the weakest RTX branded graphics card, holds up when faced with Ray Tracing.
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The Morrowind I remember from 20 years ago ran in 10-15 frames per second, so that RTX mod certainly has high chances to revive memories.
The nvidia remix can be used to remake Morrowind with rtx like the Portal rtx demo
budget gpu budget fps
@@aminbagheri9044 I am not sold on RTX remix yet, I remember that it upscales the textures etc. it can work if you also have an artist who will go over the AI upscalled textures and fix them up, even in the demo they shown during the conference(that likely shows a bit inflated best results) there were some instances, where the "AI upscaler" will just straight up throw the detail out of the window and just kind of "un-ditherer" the texture and makes it look too smooth;
And I kind of disagree on the Quake 2 looking better with RTX(also this demo adds a couple effects like motion blur etc.).
The mood of the game is lost, the RTX lighting in that game looks kinda half-assed.
I still can't understand why Morrowind was so damn demanding (other than being a Bethesda game).
with a 2070 or up, you will be fine (dlss and 1080p)
IGPU Fidelity FX gaming sounds like a damn good idea
Fidelity FX on my steamdeck is amazing. So with a current Gen ryzen apu id like to see how it compares. Cant wait till the 7000 series hits Dawid's hands.
+1 on that.
@@scottcol23 I've seen somewhere that the iGPU on the new Ryzen CPUs is the same as the one on the previous gen. Looks like they decided not to change it...
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 it’s a 2CU iGPU which is weaker than the Radeon 7 graphics that their U series mobile processors (which have 7 CU)
@@scottcol23 same! And the Steam Deck is great
I actually ordered this laptop, 3050 and all. Didn't need it for much gaming maybe just some indie's here and there. To my surprise, I was sent the 3060 variant and only charged for the 3050! Still stoked about that, been a great laptop and performs quite well.
That's pretty lucky. Hopefully the store owner don't cause a frenzy.
@@joelconolly5574 That was probably 6-7 months ago and I never did hear any fuss. It was an Amazon vendor idk maybe they didn't really care or didn't have any 3050 models to send lol.
I hope that someone didn't receive a 3050 laptop instead of a 3060 lol
Shhhh!!!! or they'll force you to send it back! But seriously, congrats!!! That's epic lol
@@ivandksd 👀
I think one thing to keep in mind about the laptops with the 3050/3050ti is their screens are usually around 15inches. Definitely a lot smaller than the monitor used for testing in this video. The smaller screen does a better job of hiding the imperfections caused by using upscalers like DLSS and FSR.
Well if you think mobile rtx 3050 is weakest rtx card always remember rtx 2050 exists
I really never use RT on my 3060. I tried it in Control a couple times and didn't feel it was worth the lower FPS. It pretty much just makes things shiny, but I'm not a crow, so it didn't work on me.
CAW
all planets aligned for me to come exactly here and make this comment
you mean magpies
Very useful comparisons, keep up the good work!
yeah shame he didn't show this one vs the lowest power draw one to give people the 3050 performance range depending on power draw
In my experience with dx12, it adds stutters as it fills the cache of the games on launch. For example playing ready or not, i need to play the maps 1 time with stutters but the second time is smooth. There are some games that I feel the stutter doesn't go away like in battlefield.
that s why call of duty need to initialize shaders after every restart of the computer ? right ?
Thanks for this video bro, I've got the same performance testing laptop and was happy to see that the rtx 3050 as a budget laptop can still perform well with newish titles in 2023. Happy to see that rtx and dlss also work reasonably well on this laptop :). I had my concerns when most reviews I've watched rate the mobile rtx3050 as meh. So thanks for clearing that up for me, on a budget I feel a lot happier now about my rog strix g15.
The DirectX12 stutters are a known issue, and not just with Fortnite. It has something to do with Exploit Protection in Windows 10, there are tons of articles that can be found via Google on how to fix it.
Some games that stutter on Win 10 don't seem to do as bad if at all on Steam Proton in Linux.
No. DX12 stutters is shader cache compilation issue.
@@samic how to fix
Care to share a link or do you stay with "google it" 🙂
@@EelkoA Google it ez
I love your videos! Great reviews with a bit of comedy :D Keep it up mate!
which is more powerful the igpu in that thing or the dedicated gpu?
@@raven4k998 the dedicated ofcourse.
@@spacecy well yeah on windows maybe not so simple if he did it on linux cause the linux drivers Favour amd over nvidia so it may not bethe same there
@@raven4k998 good to know
@@spacecy yeah you want to see crappy fps on a powerful nvidia gpu just run linux and you'll see why linus flipped nvidia the bird in that one clip on youtube he was pissed at them for oh we can't help you make drivers or at least help you understand our hardware so you can make decent drivers for our gpu's like amd does
Good thing to wake up to in the morning, always look forward to a new video from you!
I was watching the video happily and you reached the end talking about upscaling technologies. Mentioning the igpu testing made me realize how dumb I am to never have thought about using that on my slow laptop. This entire summer I've only had access to my laptop which can barely run even league of legends on 60 fps. And I've put up with this performance on a bit more demanding titles that now, you have made me realize what a way better experience with fidelitydx it could have been! Thanks for that lol.
It's nice to see your videos in the morning, keep it up!
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Its 9:24 pm right now in Malaysia
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how do you get all the stats up in the corner of the screen?
I can't set my CB2077 resolution higher than 1080p. Anyone knows why? My monitor is 1440p and my GPU is GTX1660 Super. It used to not have this issue, but now I don't even get the option.
Running version 1.5 (haven't downloaded 1.6 yet)
I am not sure if it has already been mentioned in the 590 previous comments, but the thing with Battlefield V is: it only features Raytraced Reflections. In the game scenes you showed at first there simply where no reflections so the framerate did not tank as much. In the hangar though there was water on the floor which has raytraced reflections in it. So this was tanking your performance there and not so much the fire and the smoke. :)
My assessment for raytracing from my experience is that it's quality varies from game to game. More often than not I found that with a few exceptions unless you are really looking for it or it is something noticeable, you really can't tell the difference between when raytracing is turned on or not. Plus there's no standard application. Some games just use it for reflections which is the most noticeable effect, while others use it on just lighting and shadows which are barely noticeable at all. In end the graphical upgrade it provides feels to small to justify the performance hit you would take, especially if the game isn't optimized appropriately to use it.
I would love to see the difference between manually tuning the video settings and the one suggested by GeForce Esperance and whatever AMD is doing these days. To be honest, I have just been using GeForce Esperance, and it's been going fine for me. It's been a while since I have had to dig through a game's settings.
I’ve noticed that GeForce experience tends to do ok, but it will also randomly suggest lower setting on some games that don’t make much sense. Don’t really need to turn on dlss for Fist running on a 3080, but it REALLY wants to etc. Also the suggestions tend to get worse when a new product launch happens.
@@MarginalSC i know u might know this already, but u can change the performance level for each program in the Geforce experience app, my valorant had settings set to high automatically cause of geforce, but then i found the setting and set it to low
@@art_nt_nk8353 Yeah. But if you're just going off the default things can get weird. Quake RTX? How about you turn off that global illumination? Your 3080 can't handle that...
Why rtx graphics mod did dawid use for minecraft bedrock edition? The feature on my rtx 3060 laptop doesnt turn on
I have Dell G15 with ryzen and I think gpu powerlimit is 90W in my case. Even with Nvidia Gf experience overclock I have 2050mhz stable. Gets the job done really well for me.
I played through the entirety of Portal RTX on 1080p with DLSS set on performance at barely 30 fps with my 3050 laptop
what cpu is he paring with the rtx 3050, and what gb is the rtx 3050, those are really big depending question?
I'm just waiting for the "4090 vs 7600X integrated graphics" video Dawid will inevitably make.
7900X vs 4090 >:) that is gon the true test.
The Morrowind with RTX quip was some expert level comment baiting, well done Dawid 🤣
@Dawid Does Tech Stuff at 2:49 are you referring to Nvidia RTX Remix here?
okay but how well does it run with Roblox at high settings with fps unlocker plus the ro-shade (its like the RTX mod for roblox) and the roblox realistic forest demo game?
SSRTGI on Skyrim vastly improves the experience with a need to carry a light source in places and far more atmospheric environments. It needs some tuning, and obviously tanks performance even with a 3090 pulling 600w.
Very nice video. DLSS really helps a lot to gain performance to bring games to live together with ray tracing.
Anyone know how to enable ray tracing on minecraft windows edition?
This is interesting since I have the strix laptop tho mine is a 3080 which I believe is either 115W or 150W can't seem to find out quickly
Bit of Google fu shows that it’s probably 115W, but dynamic boost 2.0 means it can technically draw 130W if the cpu isn’t bottlenecked and there’s extra power to spare.
I just wish they had a better naming scheme for their laptop cards. GTX 3080 laptop variants run the gamut from 150w for the top of the line, all the way down to 115w. Then to make things more confusing there’s a few “max-Q” variants at 90w, 85w, and 80w that are still “3080s.”
dawid it hasn't been 5 minutes since i've came back from school and you already post another one of your revelations
How do you get minecraft with RT????
I read somewhere that the 3050 in my legion is supposed to go up to 95W but I can't find it anywhere so I don't know.
brother what is that laptop model i hope i can afford it so give me link
Cool videos as always!
2:50 YOU SAID IT THEY MADE IT. MORROWIND
1) Quake - I lost 600 frames per second
2) FN - I dropped from 200 to 60 frames per second.
3) BF5 - I'm not sure I can tell a difference visually with RTX on
Dawid, you just summed up ray tracing perfectly!
why is the gpu power so low in cyberpunk?
Don't you have to restart the game after enabling rtx?
I played Cyberpunk in the very same laptop and got around 60 fps or more in medium high with some bumps at busy scenes
Can you please also test out the different DLSS DLL files and see what you think?
Yeah I would love to see how some iGPUS work with fidelity FX!
Is there anyway to use a external gpu on a gaming laptop I have a rog strix and now that gpu prices are better I’d like to upgrade my gpu but it’s soldered to the motherboard. Is there anyway to upgrade?
I love your movies, greetings from Seattle. Pacific Northwest in the house.
Anyone thinking about getting a budget RTX laptop I'd recommend looking for Lenovos IdeaPad 3 with 3060, here in UK they can be found on sale for about £650, the TDP of the 3060 in it is only at 90w but that's decent
90w? Wow I guess they really cheaped out on cooling, my legion 5 got 130w for 1000£
my Dell G15 5515 _(RTX 3050) can get to 90 watts
the rtx in control was phenomenal imo, i played it on a 2070 at 1080p w/ dlss(so render resolution was 720p), it looked amazing, still does tbh. i managed to get a 3080 some time later and god damn, at a solid 144fps and maxed out it still is the best looking implementation of raytracing imo. the fact that the game itself is great is pretty cool too.
Raytracing.
Not RTX. RTX is the Marketing Term by Nvidia. The technology is called raytracing and is Part of directX 12. And Had been around for decades.
@@edenjung9816 well yeah, obviously that's what i meant, no need to be pedantic about it my dude
i even wrote that "it still is the best looking implementation of raytracing" so...
Yup. Played it and beat it on a 3050 at 1080p w/ DLSS. Loved it. Got a 3070 a few months ago and yeah - at 60+ fps at native resolution with full ray tracing, it is a feast for the eyes. Incredible game.
with fortnite reflections on low is the same as off and GI just doesn't work at all, you also had shadows off
Great video. Please do more No Mans sky to show off the RTX, DLSS, LSMFT, etc
What Performance overlay are you using? (Looks sick!)
Lenovo IdeaPad 3 ryzen 7 16 ram with rtx 3060 6gb p vs asus rog strix G17 ryzen 7 16 ram with rtx 3050ti 4gb ? Which is best?
If minisforum is able to get you a ryzen 6000 unit with the 680m iGPU you should definitely try that with fidelity fx!
Oh I d love to replay quake 2 i bought quake 2 on steam how do I get the ray tracing erosion???
30fps for this game is fine it didn’t run on any higher in the PlayStation when I first played through 😂
I have an rtx 3050 laptop and it boosts up to 2010ish mhz, but if I turn the turbo mode off it's usually 1900
I've found that it's a great gpu for what I play and what I payed for the system (£649)
What system is it ?
What program do you use to see the performance?
Msi afterburner?
Love to see a Unreal remastered with RT, heck even Duke Nukem 3D would be cool.
Wasn't Duke Nukem 3D made using fake 3D with sprites, like Doom?
Wow! It works! The first time i tried it took forever to activate and when I disabled my antivirus it worked like in less than a minute! Thanks bro!
how much is that laptop
I have had the Dell XPS 15 9510 for about a month and it is fantastic for switch emulation reasons and also runs Minecraft very well. I have had a good experience with the 3050 in it but Linux seems to have issues with it.
I had a laptop with an RTX 3050 and that was my first device that was actually capable of running modern games. That gpu really introduced me into what was possible with pc gaming. Now I have a proper desktop pc that I can max out settings in any game
4:58 what game is this i forgot its name
control
It was nice catching your video this early for once!
You can't compare screen space reflections and ray traced. you only see screen spaced reflections when the reflected part is on screen
5:26 Somehow i feel like the picture with Raytracing off looks more realistic than the one where Raytracing was enabled......
Can you make a video of the 35W rtx mobile ?
you should check out the Legion 7i gen 7 laptop, its crazy powerful and i think you would like it
What benchmarking program do you use? :)
i think its MSI AFTERBURNER
the fortnite stutters appear the first time you run the game after an update / install / change settings like DX 11/12
IGPU with fidelity FX? But, I'm doing that daily (i5 11400 8gb of ram 900p display, normally with fidelity FX on quality)
when you connect a laptop to a monitor even if your turn off the latop screen at times the laptop doesnt use the dedicated graphics for the monitor instead they use the igpu
With the improved power efficiency (at the low end) of next gen I think the 4050 might be a pretty sweet card. I'm very curious what DLSS 3.0 ends up looking like.
I'm hoping that it gets 6gb or more vram
@@BrawlerDoge i have good news for you then
@@kristianorambalack yeah but cost ☠️
Costs more than 3060
I noticed that smearing effect of bright things happen in other games too, even with DLSS disabled it does that, but DLSS seems to make it more noticable. It's actaully a cool effect.
Great video! although I am pretty sure that the rtx 2050 laptop gpu is less powerful than the 3050.
Only Acer and some Chinese brand ever pooped out a 2050 laptop
Nice to see someone else rocking the same wallpaper
Odd question, but is that mug from HBC?
I also like dlss a lot. Especially on the 40 series cards some games support frame generation which gives you a huge boost in fps
Nice video everyday looking if you got new videos. Really like your vids
What laptop is this?
Last post. Of course we want fidelity igpu action!
Have you seen the rx 6600m? It's a mobile 6600 put in a desktop gpu. They're $200 on aliexpress
i never saw the intro but the most important is that i saw all the videos
Isn’t the RtD 2050 weaker?
What laptop is that?
I am having the 35w RTX3050. It perform akin to Desktop 1060 with 4gb of vram and dlss capability. The RT some sort of gimmick it does work but the hit to the FPS is too much. Dlss is real savior here, 1080p display, quality setting is the must to match the native res even sometimes beat it.
I think the actual problem on mobile rt3050 gpu is vram, when you overload the 3050 mobile gpu with vram like in high setting cyberpunk it makes drops and even though the fsr3 to dlss tech rtx on+high textures just this card cant get enough but if had 6 or more vram definetly would be perfect
@Dawid Does Tech Stuff
Impressive little laptop at times.
I wonder how much you can really get out of it. If you were to optimise some of the settings in NVidia control pannel, something like what Panjno has set in his video - KamA-38gV7w
iGPU FidelityFX would be great
Especially with AMD's new CPUs, 'cause those can already be gamed on pretty darn well (I mean, 2 GPU cores will only get you so far, but we're looking at last gen base model console performance on an iGPU that isn't even intended to be gamed on. Kinda makes me excited for if they ever make a G variant)
Ryzen 7000 also have rdna2 igpus even on the x variants
The Vega integrated already worked fine, tbh AMD could compete with dgpus with an iGPU/APU if they tried
By base model you mean the ps4? Those 2 rdna2 cores match a ps4? Does the deck with 8 of those match a ps4?
@@bulletpunch9317 The deck is pretty on par or better than a PS4
@@EthernetDasCoisas why does he think 2 cores would be like a ps4 then?
I can't wait for Dawid to do a gaming benchmark between a 7950X and a 13900K ... without a discrete GPU 😁
there is an rtx 2050 whitch is a cut down 3050 (still Ampere archtecture with 2048 cuda cores) with only 64bit memory interface (still 4gb)
2:50 RTX Remix: "Let me introduce myself"
Just on the day i ordered the strix g15....u posted this video WOW
Dawid should try seus ptgi on minecraft java edition with the rtx 3050, it looks great.
I have the legion 7 with rtx3060 16gb vram, 16gb ram, ryzen 5 and can use raytracing with high settings on cyberpunk 2077
I most definitely want to see some fidelity fx igpu action. Get that GTA V up to it's stuttery high frame rate if possible
I am tempted to suggest, try the new Ryzen 7000 CPUs on board graphics, with fidelity FX
You should try the India budget king CPU the i3 10th gen which cost you less than 100 bucks paired with an GTX 1050ti or GTX 750ti.
No
What about the rtx 2050 mobile?
I wish you could have tried Metro exodus enhanced edition running it on extereme setting is really hard
i like the RT off way better than the RT on at 5:24,
Awesome tests - I'm looking to replace my aging gaming laptop - i7-7700hq + gtx 1060m 3gb with a 3050/3050ti laptop. DLSS / FSR really seems like a must for this type of card... Over time the 4gb of VRAM seems like it will really create a problem for these GPUs keeping up.
Don’t take the 3050 because that 4gb of vram is going nowhere unless you plan to game on low to medium settings. You rather take the 1660ti or save up a little more and get a 3060.
@@r3tro290 That is where I find myself at the moment. I do a bit of gaming and a bit of video editing. Seems to be the case I'm going to need more VRAM either way
I would absolutely recommend atleast a 3060, if not a 3070. The vram and overall performance is more then worth the extra couple hundred it'll likely cost. It's anywhere from a 20% - 30% power increase depending on the wattage being pushed through it. You'll definitely notice a difference, and it should keep up for quite a few more years then the 3050 would.
What laptop u have? I have a Lenovo legion with the same specs as yours but with 6gb vram
Don't get 3050 😒
I find dx12 less stuttery with my 3060, but fortnite is going places if it's about performance, it's always a surprise after a update came out.
Edit ( I'm using a stock 3700x water-cooled 360mm.)
I feel like the 3060 is the most stable. My friend has some stutters on his 3080 while I am running my games smoothly with my 3060
The S4 launch definitely introduced stutters and gave me frame drops but I think they were mostly related to CPU usage and memory leaks. Even in performance mode I had bad fps. I run a mobile 2060.
@@rampxgaming4355 what cpu are u both running?
I’m using a i5 11th gen and a 1650, 16ram, not the best hardware but it also stutters, but it only happens in Fortnite, even Forza Horizon 5 runs smoothly
@@Soddus. I'm currently running a Ryzen 5 4650G and my friend has a Ryzen 9 5900X