Could you please make a video on the importance of Thermal Paste and which one you recommend? Thank You, Jarrod By the way, your videos helped me decide which gaming laptop to get.☺
Hey jarrod iam having this really annoying issue on my lenovo legion 5 gaming laptop specifically with the monitor, it is gsync compatible but when i turn on gsync it greatly reduces the image quality of the monitor and adds a "blue light filter"(it works doe as it Smoothes out all the framerate inconsistencies) I'd really appreciate any help...
For tip #2, I'll only really recommend Ilano or IETS as a laptop cooler. Im surprised not a lot of laptop reviewers get how good the vacuum sealed type coolers are, decrease temps of around 15-20C and a lot of them come with an air filter so that theyre always blowing clean air most of the time and not packed with dust. "The greatest technician thats ever lived" finally got a hold of it, now i just hope other tech reviewers actually give it a chance cuz its really really good, and i personally own one. Now i can use my laptop as a main station without worrying about temps
I've used both of them, but I like and currently use the Flydigi BS1. It delivers the same performance as the other two but is noticeably quieter than them at similar fan speeds. It's also cheaper too, $50-60~ last time I checked on Amazon. I've yet to have any issues with it unlike a few others, so from me I recommend it over the other two due to the price and noise.
@FraglesMarmoladowy true but you can download intel extreme tuning utility. Turn off turbo and lock your cpu power package to 50-60w. Works like a charm, while it's not undervolting, it's just a hard limit to the power package, you'll see the temp difference...night and day!
Yeah, when I was playing in a room with like 19-20°C I was really surprised to see temperatures running lower than usual, and only then I figured out that its because of A/C
perfect display of strategy from Jarrod here. first get us to watch his videos to buy gaming laptops, then get us to watch his videos to cool this hot mess
Or… he is a laptop REVIEWER and he REVIEWS laptops and perhaps he just wants to help you reduce laptop temperature? Like he’s just trying to help, this isn’t some kind of scheme.
Been a GT500 user for my Legion 5 2021 for 3 years, and it still cools my laptop very well. The fact that it can cool my laptop so much that the fans doesn't have to spin most of the time especially during simple tasks means the cooling pad really just works. And lower temps means longer life for my laptop.
@@darklord9102 Intel CPU runs cooler than AMD lmfao. at 50w limitation, it's 4.5 degrees cooler than AMD, 8 degrees cooler at 80w limitation on Legion Slim 5. As Jarrod showed
@@supernotnatural Maybe you don't know this but GT600 is also loud, louder than GT500 in fact. So if your argument for getting rid of my GT500 is because it is loud, is it contradicting to buy something that is louder than what I'm replacing? Besides, my cooling pad still cools my laptop really fine and I'm still satisfied by it. Why get rid of something that is not broken? Unless you gonna sponsor me a GT600 then why not?
@@darklord9102 intel or amd cpu doesn't matter here. I'm using a 2021 model, which by doesn't have a native fan controller support and runs relatively hot, so I had to download one from a third party source. But even that, the temps would never go down sub-45c, the requirement for the fans to turn off, so having gt500 even at least 30% speed is enough to turn off its fans, and it's still silent upon light usage.
Environment/room temperature is the largest culprit & should be considered first. Best example of this is during the heat wave in Asia a few months ago. You're literally blowing hot air coming out of exhaust vents into your machine once the fans kick in.
Not exactly, as long as there are air flowing around the room, the laptops won't overheat. But if we're talkin' about like over 35-37 degrees Celcius then yes, it is a huge issue.
Exactly! playing rdr2 with highest settings for hours in air cond room with 20 degree celcius really helps A LOT! didn't even feel any heat when i touched the keyboard panel, just a slight warm.
the best thing about laptop cooling pad like Llano V3 is that it basically filter the dust on the cooling pad thus leaving you laptop fan much cleaner. this helps a lot especially if you have furry pets.
You can also limit the CPU Wattage. Many laptop processors reach unnecessary wattage levels. In this way, a temperature drop of 20-25 degrees Celsius is possible in games without feeling almost any performance difference. (There may be a noticeable difference in competitive games that require processor power, but I can say that there will be almost no difference in AAA games.) For example, 30-35w power is enough for Ryzen 5/7 6000/7000/8000 series processors. For Intel 12/13/14H/HX processors, you can try 45-65W limit. You can use UXTU software to limit AMD processors and Throttlestop software to limit Intel processors. There's no harm in trying, you can find the ideal processor wattage of your laptop with a few tries.
When I changed my MSI GS65 Stealth thermal paste to PTM7950 and regular pads to putty, never ever had themp. issues even without undervolting. But I still did undervolting because why not? After cleaning fans and changing thermal interface it really got better than when I just bought it! About 10 degrees Celsius better.
Additional tip: #1 Disable Turbo Boost, by limiting ur CPU power to its listed spec, you virtually lose nothing while gaming. It decrease my temp from 88c to 75c . #2 choose 'balanced' profile or tweak ur GPU to perform in lower Wattage than its listed spec. My 3060 mobile has 90w tdp, and I don't have any feature to limit it, but my laptop 'balanced' profile let it run on 65w tdp. It never went up higher than 70c. These 2 tips might turn people off becauss it's limiting performance, but after I tried, I feel like the loss is miniscule compared to the anxious feeling of deeling with crazy high temps.
@@fadedninna I checked the number... when turbo boost activated, somehow the laptop will run really loud (high temp) when I installing games, turns out it clocked higher than its listed spec... like throttling a car above its achievable pace. At first I was terrified when I played Uncharted & TLOU on PC, in the shader cache compiling, the temp goes to 92c which is "the worst thing you can do" for the laptop longetivity. Then I just disable turbo boost on control panel to see what has changed... and the cpu limited to it's listed clock, and I lose 2-5 fps on average which doesn't matter because I already achieve above 60fps anyway. If you think it's bad, then please do tell us about the side effect of it.... which in my case, I see none up to now.
Another tip from me, after your laptop is out of waranty and you are really looking for more airflow, you could do some reserch and drill some holes on the back plate. I did this on my old Asus TUF laptop, there were grooves for holes but they were not open, so i opened them myself. Did some reserch and i think they decided not to open the holes for a lot of low end gaming laptops, even tho opening them helped a lot
you left out tip number 10 - using a laptop extractor fan and a cooling pad together ... on one of your video's 4 years ago you mentioned it and I have used it ever since , it really help me a lot... Thanks
There's one of the most important tips left behind, turn off turbo boost from your cpu, for example if you have a ryzen 7 or 9hs, the base clock wil be +3.2ghz at 1.0v, turbo will reach +4ghz but at a 1.2 or even 1.4v for small amount of time, if you disable turbo from the cpu your temps will be stable and a lot lower, i mean 20-30° lesser, im able to run warhammer darktide and vermintide at 60fps+ at 70° in a asus rog flow x13, if i turn boost on i will be always at 85-95°, but no noticeable performance difference, of course it will depened on the application or game you are trying to play, even rendering a 4K music video that took me 35 min my temps never went higher than 74° with most of the time sitting at around 68-71. For gaming i will also recommend capping the fps, framerate will be a lot smoother like that and you'll be getting lower temps. hope that helps
AFAIK you can still undervolt all CPUs from BIOS, just not at runtime (ie via IntelXTU or ThrottleStop)... The most simple undervolt can be done by locking Vcore in BIOS to a fixed value - this will use slightly more power at idle (than stock settings), but will also use significantly less power under load... eg: 12700 with fixed undervolt goes up from 3W-5W idle to 6W-10W at ilde, but also goes from 195W down to 149W at full load, without changing any other settings.
i recently bought flydigi bs1 cooling pad and it works very well. I achieve consistent 144 fps in apex legends and the average temperature is between 55 to 61 per celcius. The best part about this cooling pad is that it's not as loud as other high end cooling pad, even at max speed my laptop fan is louder than the cooling pad itself (my laptop is gigabyte g5mf).
i bought a handful of pc fan filters and weaved them into a big strip, which i placed under the plastic cover of my Legion 5 pro, and this has saved me from having to disassemble the entire heatsink to clean the fans.
Before making changes, my laptop was hot enough to make me take my hand off immediately because of the heat. Just by blowing the airflow clean in the fans, changing thermal paste and getting a cooling pad i have to say that it performs normally without any problems.
It don't have to be very aggressive for undervolting. Just do +225Mhz for the core and +300Mhz for the memory with 825mV should give you stability in games like 99% of the time. After that you can proceed with locking the fps. I would recommend repasting with Honeywell first and then you should be good for years. Last thing is to get an IETS cooler. It's expensive I know but really worth it if you are a laptop gamer. If undervolting is all you cared about, definitely pick Intel over Ryzen. 🤷🏻♀️
Jarrod, I have found that limiting frame rate to 40 fps, lowering screen resolution, AND using Lossless Scaling to both upscale and using 3x frame generation to get 120 fps makes a huge difference. I have even played Helldivers 2 on the much-maligned HP Omen Transcend 14 with Core Ultra 7 155H and 4060 IN ECO MODE and I'm still able to maintain 120 fps, with some screen tearing albeit but it doesn't seem to really harm the gameplay. I can actually hear and enjoy the games with minimal fan distraction!
want to share a bit, my laptop is HP Pavilion Gaming 15 with i7 9750h and 1660ti Max Q, bought it back in early 2020, the cpu is hot as f and i've repasted it many times in the last 4 years and the cpu still reach 90-100c when playing heavy games even with undervolt. a couple of weeks ago i bought Honeywell PTM 7950 to replace the paste on both CPU and GPU, and also i bought Upsiren U6 Pro to replace all the thermal pads, it's been 2 weeks and i can happily say the temps is much better compared to when using thermal paste, it never went beyond 89c and usually averaging in the low 80s c even after 2 weeks with no degradation! fyi, i've tried many thermal paste like GellidGC Extreme, Kingpin KPX, Kryonaut, Arctic MX-6, and several cooler master paste that i can't remember and none of those ever have temps better than the PTM 7950 i currently use.
if you have intel, try undervolting use intel XTU might be helpful... I tested it while gaming, it takes a couple of fps (5-10fps) from my undervolt profile, the temp decrease from 85c to 77c, I'd say it is worth the perf cost
To me, undervolt has to be the best way to keep a gaming laptop cool. Mine is a LOQ 15IAX9 with i5 12450HX | 3050 and the temps dropped from peak 90 (CPU) and 85 (GPU) all the way to 75 and 72, respectively, while sacrificing absolute minimal performance (about 1-2%). Though getting a cooling pad from Llano or IETS is much more preferrable and effective.
@@akshataneja1288 Can't do. Even if our specs are identical, you have to tune it yourself because deep down, they are slightly different and my settings may even crash your machine.
I have an AW M18r1 and the IETS GT600 laptop stand/Fan, and this reduces temp by 20 degrees or more but is very loud. I wear headphones so no big deal, at half speed it's still effective and usable without headphones. There is another brand that is almost the same thing and same effectiveness I think. All great tips.
I would add I have an Alienware Area 51M R1 that is getting hot, I simply now run IXTU and lowered the multiplier down and it just made all the difference in the world. Super-simple.
Frame rate capping is a necessity for me, even though your average frame rate is lower, it's still better for gaming because you get consistent FPS, so 60fps solid. Where uncapped it can be 100fps then drop to 60fps when the gameplay intensifies.
Tip 1 has a couple of asterisks. Some Laptops have an intake facing the display, in which case opening the display more (which is also a side effect of propping the back end up) makes the display less of a air flow hindrance. This is more usual with the kind of hinges that prop the back of the computer up as you open the laptop. Asterisk two, if you use your laptop on top of the lap, check where the air intakes are and sit in a way you don't block them with your thighs. Not an issue with demanding games as they'd burn up any thighs of people trying to keep the laptop on top of their lap, but an issue when playing older games or just less demanding games. It is very easy to accidentally block the intake with the thighs and then wonder why the laptop is way hotter than it should be for running a simple game.
i don't know what you guys do to cool your laptop, but i use a laptop stand with a fan underneath. no cost, and it works. i can now play cs 60fps on a macbook pro
Hello Jarrod, I've been looking into gaming laptops for a while now. I found two gaming laptops in my budget 1. Lenovo Ideapad gaming 3 Openbox (ryzen 7, rtx 4050) 2. Acer Nitro 17 An17-41-r0vu used (ryzen 7, rtx 4050) Lenovo one is from a source who orders their products in bulk and has no warranty and the acer one is from a store and has 30 days warranty Which one should I go for?
Thinking about getting a cooling pad for my Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9. I believe the cooling process is different from the Gen 8 if I'm not mistaken. Would love to see a review of the Rtx 4090 version.
My older Predator Helios (2019 rtx 2060) started overheating to the point of blue screen. Did all the obvious housekeeping - cleaning fans/vents, raising it a little, bought a cooling pad) none of it helped much but at least no more blue screens but it was still running even older games at about 91C. I then discovered undervolting using Throttlestop. I started off big, then gradually walked it back to stability. Funny thing is, I suspect it may have been the thermostat (?) misreading the temp in the laptop the entire time; with Throttlestop running in the background, and with NO undervolting Predator Sense would read about 70C on startup, as soon as I started Throttlestop, this would instantly drop to 50C or so and drop from there once the cooling kicked in. Of course it doesn't help I live in the tropics....
I undervolted my gpu and my cpu only needed to lower the turbo clock using the power plan (of course the settings need to be displayed via the power setting explorer) because this cpu cannot undervolt the result is that in the past 2 years I rarely get temperatures above 85 for the CPU and the GPU never again reaches 75 even my toughest game battlefield 5 cpu is no longer at 90 quite happy even though previously the CPU could be 98 and the GPU at 85 when playing that game my specifications Ryzen 7 4800h and RTX 3060 GPU
slight CPU clockspeed limit also does wonders in many cases, especially if its voltage control is locked. I'm not talking about completely disabling Turbo Boost but just a slight underclock, so a CPU wouldn't go to highest voltages and power limits.
My laptop can’t change GPU power limits unfortunately, I’ve tried a couple different ways. (It is older so understandable) But it can still CPU undervolt!
omg i need to look into this cpu clock limit coz my lenovo levion 5 pro overboosts itself to 100 degrees or 95 everytime for no gains practically, i just disabled boost I hope i can limit the clocks i ll google it thanks for the idea@@tabalugadragon3555
Hi. Will you be doing a full in-depth review of the Acer predator Helios 18 (2024) model? I know this video is sponsored by the laptop, but I would love your full thoughts on the laptop. I bought it as my first ever laptop for both gaming and university due to a huge sale, but it is yet to arrive. I have seen many reviews ranging from very negative to very positive. I'm hoping I made the right choice and that it will last me a good few years? Either way, thanks for these tips! I'll make sure to employ them.
Please jarrod make a video about undervolting a laptop using msi afterburner please. My lenovo legion 2022 3060 is heating up alot and not taking in proper tgp
I showed him my guide once, he said he tried it and it didn't work well for him, as I understand he didn't try it again. You can take a look at the guide I made for him though(the English one). Hopefully it'll help you. Good luck!
Just learned one reason why my higher end cooling pad isn't doing as good as it should... MSI put too many holes in the gs66 stealth lmao. I feel all the cool air going through the grill above the keyboard, the speaker holes bellow the keyboard and even the gap around the mouse pad. Just put tape over all the holes and my temps dropped.
#10 Underclock CPU. The most people's CPU is more powerful than GPUs and underclocking little bit will substantially decrease TDP of CPU with that its temperature. Besides, In many cases you reach TDP limit and Mhz of it drops. I just kipped little below average Mhz. For example, I have i7 9750h. Without TDP limit(45W) all 6 core boost goes 4,000Mhz, but some games moment CPU is loaded max which drops Mhz till 3500. I just manually limited it to 3500Mhz. 90% cases i save 10-20 degree
Also by limiting the CPU you can 1) prevent CPU throtteling (throtteling is totally annoying) and 2) by limiting the CPU, the GPU can operate better (most airsystems are working together; less stress on the CPU means more cooling for the GPU).
Even though laptop coolers in this video don't seem to accomplish much, I will say that the Llano, and other laptop coolers that seem to have the memory foam sealant do a really good job at lowering laptop temps. I didn't necessarily believe the videos that mentioned that it could drop the temps by 20 degrees C, but in my case I did get a nice 5 - 10 degree drop which is much better than I remember laptop coolers being like 10+ years ago rofl. At max fans, I can potentially see the 10 degree C drop more often than not. Ultimate trade off is still the sound, but it's nice to know it actually does accomplish something.
Students usually have a lot of books laying around. I used that and then eventually a Jenga block with my old G750. I wasn't impressed with the trade off with my TUF F15 2022 version between performance and turbo. Turbo probably literally doubled the fan noise and it only increased FPS by about 5%.
Hi Jarrod! Can I run the fan at maximum speed all the time? Will it damage the fan? I don't care about the noise it makes; I just care about the heat in my laptop! Thanks Jarrod!
I think it's probably fine, fans are rated for a LOT of RPMs and a lot of operation. Of course less is probably better long term, but I doubt it would be an issue.
Hello and thank you so much. Can you give us a conclusion comparison of temperatures when you apply all of these hacks together. I’m very curious if each will reduce the temperature for 3-5 degrees for example, will the final result be 15-20 degrees? Thank you again
I would love to change the fan speed, but rarely is there a SW that works for laptops, and Lenovo famously kind of disallows it. You can't change the minimum speeds, only the maximum speeds, which causes the excessive noise in the first place.
a video idea i've been thinking about, laptop with the cheapest gpu advertised for gaming(aka rtx 2050) which is about 500$, versus a no-GPU but decent CPU laptop (my pick would be ryzen 7 5825u) which would go around 300$, of course rtx 2050 would perform better but, in the end both wouldn't play the newest AAA game, so would it be worth the 40% price gain?
I have Helios 18 with I7-13700HX and undervolting is locked. I'm stuck @ 19K with Cinebench R23. I got 25K with undervolting on Lenovo Legion on i7-13700HX.
From my experience, if you use an AMD cpu you can disable cpu boost in the windows setting (or if you're using an asus laptop you can use g-helper to turn it off) this simple change can lower your cpu temperatures from 80-90 degrees to 60-70 on heavy load, and it only costs you around 5% of your fps (sometimes it doesn't even affect it at all) I don't know how this will affect Intel cpus performance though
A stand normally all you need and limiting your fps. If you have a decent laptop this make your laptop shouldn't reach the 80s anymore and 70s and lower is completely safe and won't cause damage to laptop CPUs and GPUs because they are designed to run safely until 84 on GPU and 90 or 95 on CPUs. I'd only suggest the extra stuff like a cooling pad if you're running turbo to get max framerates and you mostly play competitive games. Personally I can lock in 144fps and not really feel a difference in play and still have good temps in the high 60s or low 70s but I understand people can be more frame sensitive than others. A small undervolt can also really help too would suggest watching a guide but it's not necessary.
I know you just test laptops on stock settings with latest windows and driver updates because most people won't do anything past that but, It would be helpful if you made a guide for undervolting detailed yet simplified explanation like all of your reviews because no one beats the quality of review you provide and you review many laptop thus, I can't help myself but ask you this because all I find is people suggesting to turnoff cpu turbo boost for cooler temps with a quote if you need more performance why don't you get a desktop
Hey Man I think you are the best person to ask this doubt, Does undervolting the gpu and overclocking it decreases it's life span?? I've got a legion pro 5i with RTX 4060, 80mV undervolt on 13700HX gave my laptop a +6000 Score in cinebench r23, I've also tried to undervolt the GPU and tried to overclock it by increasing GPU Memory and Core clock speeds while decreasing max voltage, at around 0.85V and 2560Mhz on Core and +500 on Memory game started to show some weird colored small artifacts... I'm just confused whether underclocking GPU + Overclocking it is potentially destroying my GPU or is this actually good for longevity since lower temperatures... Please if you've got to read this give a reply, tried reddit but didn't get any satisfacory explanations there...
Aside from CPU undervolting, gpu undervolting is a big heat and power saver for nvidia laptops. Very easy to do using msi afterburner. There are plenty how to vids floating around for doing that. Amd lapop gpus don't undervolt as far as I know, you can only power limit them. Also, for AMD laptop cpus, you can't undervolt but there's a power limiting trick you can do in one of the advanced option submenus. You just turn down minimum and maximum processor power down from 100% to 99%. This will reduce cpu clock speeds and limit boosting behavior. In most games the performance loss will be negligible but this trick can drop cpu temps anywhere from 10 to 20c. I've been running my legion 5 pro with a 5800h and 3070 this way for the past 4 years and the highest temps I ever get peak in the low to mid 70s. It often runs in the mid to high 60s. Performance wise I would say I'm giving up 5% to 8% of its max capability, but the greatly lowered heat generally provides more stability over long gaming sessions.
in your lowering game settings to lower temps test you need to limit fps to see how much of a difference it really makes, Same with DLSS so you should redo these tests with a fps cap of 60, 80 or 100 fps depending on the game
Greetings sir, a follower from India. I have helios neo 16, to reduce the temperature is it ok to use fan at max when gaming like always high. Is it harmful for fan, will it reduce the fan’s life?
2:46 true, my MSi Prestige P65 9SD with an i7-9750H is one of those that would severely thermal throttled unless I use either the super expensive Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme or Conductonaut (which is very risky if you're not applying it correctly). 🫠 If I don't use either one of these two top of line TIMs, the idle temp would be hovering around 67-70 C, and would instantly spike up to 80+ the moment I do anything. Even if it is just opening a frigging File Explorer. Running games or productivity apps (especially the more CPU demanding ones) would lock it over 88 C. I don't even need to run AIDA64 or Cinebench to get this high.
If your air cleaner blows air to the top. You can put your laptop on top of it. It works magical. Other youtuber tested it and it performs way way better than ALL other external solutions.
Question: You said that it's fine to max out your fans as long as you can tolerate the noise. Does this not hurt the fan's life span at all? Like it doesn't overwork the fan and shorten how long 'till you have to replace it? Sry for my unintelligence.
my 2022 helios 300 with 3070 ans 12700h crash on fortnite when i use extreme and turbo and on cinebench r23 the multicore drop to 13.000... do you know why?
Here's, most significant technique, that can drop your temp. for almost 15°C. It's disabling turbo boost CPU. You could do it through Control Panel > Choose a power plan > Change plan settings (I made another power plan so I can switch between WITH turbo boost or WITHOUT turbo boost anytime) > Change advance power settings > Pick the "Processor power management" > Pick the "Maximum processor state" and set to 99% and pick the "Processor performance boost mode" and set to Disabled. That's it and voila, for gaming, it's actually really useful, knowing that most games are GPU bound, so lowering CPU performance isn't that bad, its even make higher performance you got for some games. Though ofc this technique is not recommended for CPU bound games such as Valorant.
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Hi, I'm looking for a gaming and productive laptop. I have a budget of €1,300. What would you advise me?
Could you please make a video on the importance of Thermal Paste and which one you recommend?
Thank You, Jarrod
By the way, your videos helped me decide which gaming laptop to get.☺
@@JarrodsTech tell acer to allow undervolting
Hey jarrod iam having this really annoying issue on my lenovo legion 5 gaming laptop specifically with the monitor, it is gsync compatible but when i turn on gsync it greatly reduces the image quality of the monitor and adds a "blue light filter"(it works doe as it Smoothes out all the framerate inconsistencies) I'd really appreciate any help...
3:38 The Swamp Gooch jumpscare got me
The greatest techinician that's ever lived
atleast no lifeform was found
Salem please return my mother's tooth brush. It's like the greatest absence that has ever existed in my mother's bathroom cabinet. Ty :)
Someone call the Gooch Collector! Only he can save us.
The greatest technician that's ever lived 😂😂. And the lanno v12 is the greatest cooling pad that's ever lived.😂😂
Hack no 10: Activate all the rgb lights
True
based hack.
If you have rgb lights 😢
this is the first thing you need to do
Not all. Only blue. Blue = cold.
another tip, use your laptop in Antarctica so it can stay cool and you won't be needing an additional cooler
Not to mention it would act as a heater to warm your tent. 2 for 1, real pro gamer move right there
@@naqibfarhan4356chup ho ja 😊
I wish i could.
@@Roshan-629 Alternative tip: Don't use your laptop so it can stay cool.
@@many_worlds I can't dude. It's my symbiote.
For tip #2, I'll only really recommend Ilano or IETS as a laptop cooler. Im surprised not a lot of laptop reviewers get how good the vacuum sealed type coolers are, decrease temps of around 15-20C and a lot of them come with an air filter so that theyre always blowing clean air most of the time and not packed with dust. "The greatest technician thats ever lived" finally got a hold of it, now i just hope other tech reviewers actually give it a chance cuz its really really good, and i personally own one. Now i can use my laptop as a main station without worrying about temps
Same one I have I love it i put it to 1000 and it’s more than enough And it goes to 25000 it’s insane lol
Yeah I personally have the IETS gt 600 but the gt 500 is enough for most people, I can play super high graphics with ease.
I've used both of them, but I like and currently use the Flydigi BS1. It delivers the same performance as the other two but is noticeably quieter than them at similar fan speeds. It's also cheaper too, $50-60~ last time I checked on Amazon. I've yet to have any issues with it unlike a few others, so from me I recommend it over the other two due to the price and noise.
the fact that a video about keeping your laptop cooler is sponsored by an 18" laptop is one of the best coincidences I've ever seen
lol
Acer locked undervolting. I'm a sad owner of Helios 18 PH18-71 with i7-13700HX.
@FraglesMarmoladowy true but you can download intel extreme tuning utility. Turn off turbo and lock your cpu power package to 50-60w. Works like a charm, while it's not undervolting, it's just a hard limit to the power package, you'll see the temp difference...night and day!
@@FraglesMarmoladowy You can still undervolt with HX variants. 🤷🏻♀️
@@FraglesMarmoladowyid may acer 12gen i5 whit trotelstop
Best tip: Use your Laptop in a room with air conditioner. life changer specially if youre from warmer countries
Yeah, when I was playing in a room with like 19-20°C I was really surprised to see temperatures running lower than usual, and only then I figured out that its because of A/C
@I.K.illedThatBeardGuy tutorial when ?
Do people really leave their room warm on purpose?
perfect display of strategy from Jarrod here. first get us to watch his videos to buy gaming laptops, then get us to watch his videos to cool this hot mess
Or… he is a laptop REVIEWER and he REVIEWS laptops and perhaps he just wants to help you reduce laptop temperature? Like he’s just trying to help, this isn’t some kind of scheme.
Dude he is joking chill -_-@@freshis16
I mean bro he just got sponsored, you don't need to dramatize it
It's called a loop. 🤷♀
1:31 @@freshis16
Been a GT500 user for my Legion 5 2021 for 3 years, and it still cools my laptop very well. The fact that it can cool my laptop so much that the fans doesn't have to spin most of the time especially during simple tasks means the cooling pad really just works. And lower temps means longer life for my laptop.
GT500 is loud. I got GT600, it has bigger fan and lower rpm is amazing. Get rid of GT500 asap.
Well my fans have never activated with doing simple tasks.... I guess you have intel cpu....
@@darklord9102 Intel CPU runs cooler than AMD lmfao. at 50w limitation, it's 4.5 degrees cooler than AMD, 8 degrees cooler at 80w limitation on Legion Slim 5. As Jarrod showed
@@supernotnatural Maybe you don't know this but GT600 is also loud, louder than GT500 in fact. So if your argument for getting rid of my GT500 is because it is loud, is it contradicting to buy something that is louder than what I'm replacing?
Besides, my cooling pad still cools my laptop really fine and I'm still satisfied by it. Why get rid of something that is not broken?
Unless you gonna sponsor me a GT600 then why not?
@@darklord9102 intel or amd cpu doesn't matter here.
I'm using a 2021 model, which by doesn't have a native fan controller support and runs relatively hot, so I had to download one from a third party source. But even that, the temps would never go down sub-45c, the requirement for the fans to turn off, so having gt500 even at least 30% speed is enough to turn off its fans, and it's still silent upon light usage.
The irony that this video is sponsored by Acer predator helios 18, one of the hottest running laptops and u cant undervolt
Environment/room temperature is the largest culprit & should be considered first. Best example of this is during the heat wave in Asia a few months ago. You're literally blowing hot air coming out of exhaust vents into your machine once the fans kick in.
Not exactly, as long as there are air flowing around the room, the laptops won't overheat. But if we're talkin' about like over 35-37 degrees Celcius then yes, it is a huge issue.
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See, it is.
@EthanNSenpaiVN here in India it's 50 degree celcius bruh
Exactly! playing rdr2 with highest settings for hours in air cond room with 20 degree celcius really helps A LOT! didn't even feel any heat when i touched the keyboard panel, just a slight warm.
Hi Jarrod. Please do a video on how to clean your gaming laptop most especially the air vents and fans with simple and common household items
Don't turn down texture quality, that's generally just a GPU memory check, not a performance/power consuming setting! And it has a huge visual impact!
Should i set texture quality to high?
Should I set texture quality to high?
Should I set texture quality to high?
@@rafiaislam4591if you have much VRAM, yes.
@@rafiaislam4591if you have enough vram go for it
the best thing about laptop cooling pad like Llano V3 is that it basically filter the dust on the cooling pad thus leaving you laptop fan much cleaner. this helps a lot especially if you have furry pets.
Regarding cooling pads, it is sometimes feasible to reverse the fan's polarity to align it with the laptop's airflow direction.
You can also limit the CPU Wattage. Many laptop processors reach unnecessary wattage levels. In this way, a temperature drop of 20-25 degrees Celsius is possible in games without feeling almost any performance difference. (There may be a noticeable difference in competitive games that require processor power, but I can say that there will be almost no difference in AAA games.) For example, 30-35w power is enough for Ryzen 5/7 6000/7000/8000 series processors. For Intel 12/13/14H/HX processors, you can try 45-65W limit. You can use UXTU software to limit AMD processors and Throttlestop software to limit Intel processors. There's no harm in trying, you can find the ideal processor wattage of your laptop with a few tries.
When I changed my MSI GS65 Stealth thermal paste to PTM7950 and regular pads to putty, never ever had themp. issues even without undervolting.
But I still did undervolting because why not? After cleaning fans and changing thermal interface it really got better than when I just bought it! About 10 degrees Celsius better.
Congratulations on the shout out from Linus, Jarrod! Been following you for years mate
Additional tip:
#1 Disable Turbo Boost, by limiting ur CPU power to its listed spec, you virtually lose nothing while gaming. It decrease my temp from 88c to 75c .
#2 choose 'balanced' profile or tweak ur GPU to perform in lower Wattage than its listed spec. My 3060 mobile has 90w tdp, and I don't have any feature to limit it, but my laptop 'balanced' profile let it run on 65w tdp. It never went up higher than 70c.
These 2 tips might turn people off becauss it's limiting performance, but after I tried, I feel like the loss is miniscule compared to the anxious feeling of deeling with crazy high temps.
"disabling turbo boost" is one of the worst things you can do
@@fadedninna I checked the number... when turbo boost activated, somehow the laptop will run really loud (high temp) when I installing games, turns out it clocked higher than its listed spec... like throttling a car above its achievable pace.
At first I was terrified when I played Uncharted & TLOU on PC, in the shader cache compiling, the temp goes to 92c which is "the worst thing you can do" for the laptop longetivity.
Then I just disable turbo boost on control panel to see what has changed... and the cpu limited to it's listed clock, and I lose 2-5 fps on average which doesn't matter because I already achieve above 60fps anyway.
If you think it's bad, then please do tell us about the side effect of it.... which in my case, I see none up to now.
Another tip from me, after your laptop is out of waranty and you are really looking for more airflow, you could do some reserch and drill some holes on the back plate. I did this on my old Asus TUF laptop, there were grooves for holes but they were not open, so i opened them myself. Did some reserch and i think they decided not to open the holes for a lot of low end gaming laptops, even tho opening them helped a lot
you left out tip number 10 - using a laptop extractor fan and a cooling pad together ... on one of your video's 4 years ago you mentioned it and I have used it ever since , it really help me a lot... Thanks
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There's one of the most important tips left behind, turn off turbo boost from your cpu, for example if you have a ryzen 7 or 9hs, the base clock wil be +3.2ghz at 1.0v, turbo will reach +4ghz but at a 1.2 or even 1.4v for small amount of time, if you disable turbo from the cpu your temps will be stable and a lot lower, i mean 20-30° lesser, im able to run warhammer darktide and vermintide at 60fps+ at 70° in a asus rog flow x13, if i turn boost on i will be always at 85-95°, but no noticeable performance difference, of course it will depened on the application or game you are trying to play, even rendering a 4K music video that took me 35 min my temps never went higher than 74° with most of the time sitting at around 68-71. For gaming i will also recommend capping the fps, framerate will be a lot smoother like that and you'll be getting lower temps. hope that helps
Ask Intel and AMD to unlock all the chips for undervolting. Not just the HX or 9 variants. That's the biggest tip for cooler temps.
AFAIK you can still undervolt all CPUs from BIOS, just not at runtime (ie via IntelXTU or ThrottleStop)... The most simple undervolt can be done by locking Vcore in BIOS to a fixed value - this will use slightly more power at idle (than stock settings), but will also use significantly less power under load... eg: 12700 with fixed undervolt goes up from 3W-5W idle to 6W-10W at ilde, but also goes from 195W down to 149W at full load, without changing any other settings.
One issue is OEMs hiding all the settings away, with no 'legit' ways to unhide/edit them.
I pretty much change out my thermal paste whenever I clean my fans for the first time, it just makes sense since the thing is already opened.
i recently bought flydigi bs1 cooling pad and it works very well. I achieve consistent 144 fps in apex legends and the average temperature is between 55 to 61 per celcius. The best part about this cooling pad is that it's not as loud as other high end cooling pad, even at max speed my laptop fan is louder than the cooling pad itself (my laptop is gigabyte g5mf).
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How did you read my mind and know I was researching better ways to cool my laptop. You make so many videos that absolutely hit the spot!
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i bought a handful of pc fan filters and weaved them into a big strip, which i placed under the plastic cover of my Legion 5 pro, and this has saved me from having to disassemble the entire heatsink to clean the fans.
Before making changes, my laptop was hot enough to make me take my hand off immediately because of the heat. Just by blowing the airflow clean in the fans, changing thermal paste and getting a cooling pad i have to say that it performs normally without any problems.
It don't have to be very aggressive for undervolting. Just do +225Mhz for the core and +300Mhz for the memory with 825mV should give you stability in games like 99% of the time. After that you can proceed with locking the fps. I would recommend repasting with Honeywell first and then you should be good for years. Last thing is to get an IETS cooler. It's expensive I know but really worth it if you are a laptop gamer. If undervolting is all you cared about, definitely pick Intel over Ryzen. 🤷🏻♀️
Appreciate the vid, have been researching stands/pads the last couple weeks
Love your channel and thanks for the great information ... Subbed
Jarrod, I have found that limiting frame rate to 40 fps, lowering screen resolution, AND using Lossless Scaling to both upscale and using 3x frame generation to get 120 fps makes a huge difference. I have even played Helldivers 2 on the much-maligned HP Omen Transcend 14 with Core Ultra 7 155H and 4060 IN ECO MODE and I'm still able to maintain 120 fps, with some screen tearing albeit but it doesn't seem to really harm the gameplay. I can actually hear and enjoy the games with minimal fan distraction!
Pls invest in a headset. 40fps and using lossless scaling on top of it for rtx 4060 is crazy
I haven't watched the video yet. But I've bought cooling pad for my 14,5" Lenovo and applied some liquid metal as thermal paste.
Finally a gaming laptop tips we all wanted
want to share a bit, my laptop is HP Pavilion Gaming 15 with i7 9750h and 1660ti Max Q, bought it back in early 2020, the cpu is hot as f and i've repasted it many times in the last 4 years and the cpu still reach 90-100c when playing heavy games even with undervolt. a couple of weeks ago i bought Honeywell PTM 7950 to replace the paste on both CPU and GPU, and also i bought Upsiren U6 Pro to replace all the thermal pads, it's been 2 weeks and i can happily say the temps is much better compared to when using thermal paste, it never went beyond 89c and usually averaging in the low 80s c even after 2 weeks with no degradation!
fyi, i've tried many thermal paste like GellidGC Extreme, Kingpin KPX, Kryonaut, Arctic MX-6, and several cooler master paste that i can't remember and none of those ever have temps better than the PTM 7950 i currently use.
if you have intel, try undervolting use intel XTU might be helpful... I tested it while gaming, it takes a couple of fps (5-10fps) from my undervolt profile, the temp decrease from 85c to 77c, I'd say it is worth the perf cost
Thanks for posting this. This helps a lot since I have an XPS 15 with an i9-11900H that I know for a fact the design can't keep cool
To me, undervolt has to be the best way to keep a gaming laptop cool. Mine is a LOQ 15IAX9 with i5 12450HX | 3050 and the temps dropped from peak 90 (CPU) and 85 (GPU) all the way to 75 and 72, respectively, while sacrificing absolute minimal performance (about 1-2%). Though getting a cooling pad from Llano or IETS is much more preferrable and effective.
I Also own this laptop can you share the presets with me mine is i513450hx with 4050
@@akshataneja1288 Just lower PL1 and PL2
@@akshataneja1288 Can't do. Even if our specs are identical, you have to tune it yourself because deep down, they are slightly different and my settings may even crash your machine.
@@theartworkhub easier said than done but that's pretty much it. though using throttlestop is recommended.
@@EthanNSenpaiVN you can also undervolt your GPU
Super video. I've been looking at getting a MSI Katana with the RYZEN 9 but i'm hearing it has a lot of cooling issues. Same for the Helios Neo 18
The Scariest Part About This Video Is The Cleaning At 3:38
I have an AW M18r1 and the IETS GT600 laptop stand/Fan, and this reduces temp by 20 degrees or more but is very loud. I wear headphones so no big deal, at half speed it's still effective and usable without headphones. There is another brand that is almost the same thing and same effectiveness I think. All great tips.
I would add I have an Alienware Area 51M R1 that is getting hot, I simply now run IXTU and lowered the multiplier down and it just made all the difference in the world. Super-simple.
how convenient! I was looking for this!
Frame rate capping is a necessity for me, even though your average frame rate is lower, it's still better for gaming because you get consistent FPS, so 60fps solid. Where uncapped it can be 100fps then drop to 60fps when the gameplay intensifies.
My Legion 7i will be delivered tomorrow. This video was uploaded at the perfect time
Tip 1 has a couple of asterisks. Some Laptops have an intake facing the display, in which case opening the display more (which is also a side effect of propping the back end up) makes the display less of a air flow hindrance. This is more usual with the kind of hinges that prop the back of the computer up as you open the laptop. Asterisk two, if you use your laptop on top of the lap, check where the air intakes are and sit in a way you don't block them with your thighs. Not an issue with demanding games as they'd burn up any thighs of people trying to keep the laptop on top of their lap, but an issue when playing older games or just less demanding games. It is very easy to accidentally block the intake with the thighs and then wonder why the laptop is way hotter than it should be for running a simple game.
i don't know what you guys do to cool your laptop, but i use a laptop stand with a fan underneath. no cost, and it works. i can now play cs 60fps on a macbook pro
Hello Jarrod,
I've been looking into gaming laptops for a while now. I found two gaming laptops in my budget
1. Lenovo Ideapad gaming 3 Openbox (ryzen 7, rtx 4050)
2. Acer Nitro 17 An17-41-r0vu used (ryzen 7, rtx 4050)
Lenovo one is from a source who orders their products in bulk and has no warranty and the acer one is from a store and has 30 days warranty
Which one should I go for?
Tip 1 is epic! I use 2 same type of rubber eraser and put under my laptop's corners! Works just fine portable and cheap!
Very informative video. Thank you
Thinking about getting a cooling pad for my Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9. I believe the cooling process is different from the Gen 8 if I'm not mistaken. Would love to see a review of the Rtx 4090 version.
Great to see a CoB fan. RiP Alexi!
A great one as usual
Where is the bonus tip? I always turn on RGB for better performance and cooler temps, the light just helps evaporate the heat faster.
My older Predator Helios (2019 rtx 2060) started overheating to the point of blue screen. Did all the obvious housekeeping - cleaning fans/vents, raising it a little, bought a cooling pad) none of it helped much but at least no more blue screens but it was still running even older games at about 91C. I then discovered undervolting using Throttlestop. I started off big, then gradually walked it back to stability. Funny thing is, I suspect it may have been the thermostat (?) misreading the temp in the laptop the entire time; with Throttlestop running in the background, and with NO undervolting Predator Sense would read about 70C on startup, as soon as I started Throttlestop, this would instantly drop to 50C or so and drop from there once the cooling kicked in. Of course it doesn't help I live in the tropics....
I undervolted my gpu and my cpu only needed to lower the turbo clock using the power plan (of course the settings need to be displayed via the power setting explorer) because this cpu cannot undervolt
the result is that in the past 2 years I rarely get temperatures above 85 for the CPU and the GPU never again reaches 75
even my toughest game battlefield 5 cpu is no longer at 90 quite happy
even though previously the CPU could be 98 and the GPU at 85 when playing that game
my specifications
Ryzen 7 4800h and RTX 3060 GPU
Not mentioning gpu undervolting is crazy.
slight CPU clockspeed limit also does wonders in many cases, especially if its voltage control is locked. I'm not talking about completely disabling Turbo Boost but just a slight underclock, so a CPU wouldn't go to highest voltages and power limits.
Yeah - not even touching on it seems wrong as this is just 101…
My laptop can’t change GPU power limits unfortunately, I’ve tried a couple different ways. (It is older so understandable)
But it can still CPU undervolt!
omg i need to look into this cpu clock limit coz my lenovo levion 5 pro overboosts itself to 100 degrees or 95 everytime for no gains practically, i just disabled boost I hope i can limit the clocks i ll google it thanks for the idea@@tabalugadragon3555
@@briananeuraysem3321 unless you have and AMD GPU, you have full control over it, power limits(not directly), voltage, clockspeeds.
Hi. Will you be doing a full in-depth review of the Acer predator Helios 18 (2024) model? I know this video is sponsored by the laptop, but I would love your full thoughts on the laptop. I bought it as my first ever laptop for both gaming and university due to a huge sale, but it is yet to arrive. I have seen many reviews ranging from very negative to very positive. I'm hoping I made the right choice and that it will last me a good few years? Either way, thanks for these tips! I'll make sure to employ them.
I always like these videos, they help a lot
Glad to hear it :)
What do you mean? Do you have lack of iQ?
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Please jarrod make a video about undervolting a laptop using msi afterburner please. My lenovo legion 2022 3060 is heating up alot and not taking in proper tgp
Have you changed the thermal paste, had a similar problem with a Asus M16 3060.
When I changed the thermal paste, I was able to get up to 100W at the same temp and my Graphics benchmark scores doubled.
I showed him my guide once, he said he tried it and it didn't work well for him, as I understand he didn't try it again. You can take a look at the guide I made for him though(the English one). Hopefully it'll help you. Good luck!
Just learned one reason why my higher end cooling pad isn't doing as good as it should... MSI put too many holes in the gs66 stealth lmao. I feel all the cool air going through the grill above the keyboard, the speaker holes bellow the keyboard and even the gap around the mouse pad. Just put tape over all the holes and my temps dropped.
Jarrod, will we get a review of the Helios 18?
I always use performance mode instead of turbo on my G14. Turbo is just way louder/hotter and only gives a ~10%fps boost
#10 Underclock CPU.
The most people's CPU is more powerful than GPUs and underclocking little bit will substantially decrease TDP of CPU with that its temperature.
Besides, In many cases you reach TDP limit and Mhz of it drops. I just kipped little below average Mhz.
For example, I have i7 9750h. Without TDP limit(45W) all 6 core boost goes 4,000Mhz, but some games moment CPU is loaded max which drops Mhz till 3500. I just manually limited it to 3500Mhz. 90% cases i save 10-20 degree
Also by limiting the CPU you can 1) prevent CPU throtteling (throtteling is totally annoying) and 2) by limiting the CPU, the GPU can operate better (most airsystems are working together; less stress on the CPU means more cooling for the GPU).
Even though laptop coolers in this video don't seem to accomplish much, I will say that the Llano, and other laptop coolers that seem to have the memory foam sealant do a really good job at lowering laptop temps. I didn't necessarily believe the videos that mentioned that it could drop the temps by 20 degrees C, but in my case I did get a nice 5 - 10 degree drop which is much better than I remember laptop coolers being like 10+ years ago rofl.
At max fans, I can potentially see the 10 degree C drop more often than not. Ultimate trade off is still the sound, but it's nice to know it actually does accomplish something.
i needed this thank you CPU was locked at 95C CPU Temperature at almost all times even while idle
Hope it helps! Something sounds wrong if it's that high at idle
@@JarrodsTech tell acer to provide undervolting
Students usually have a lot of books laying around. I used that and then eventually a Jenga block with my old G750.
I wasn't impressed with the trade off with my TUF F15 2022 version between performance and turbo. Turbo probably literally doubled the fan noise and it only increased FPS by about 5%.
Use PTM 7950 instead of Noctua in the video when you repaste your laptop. Noctua paste won't last in a laptop
Hi Jarrod! Can I run the fan at maximum speed all the time? Will it damage the fan? I don't care about the noise it makes; I just care about the heat in my laptop! Thanks Jarrod!
I think it's probably fine, fans are rated for a LOT of RPMs and a lot of operation. Of course less is probably better long term, but I doubt it would be an issue.
Hello and thank you so much.
Can you give us a conclusion comparison of temperatures when you apply all of these hacks together.
I’m very curious if each will reduce the temperature for 3-5 degrees for example, will the final result be 15-20 degrees?
Thank you again
I would love to change the fan speed, but rarely is there a SW that works for laptops, and Lenovo famously kind of disallows it. You can't change the minimum speeds, only the maximum speeds, which causes the excessive noise in the first place.
Will that metal stand in your description fit the Strix scar 18?
I bought an Acer predator helios neo 16 whit 4070 and i9-14900hx 2 days ago, you think I did well?
price and model?
@@Gateastrologykc the price was 1850 euros, but I paid 1550, is the acer predatod helios neo 16 2024 whit 4070 and intel core i9 14900hx
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a video idea i've been thinking about, laptop with the cheapest gpu advertised for gaming(aka rtx 2050) which is about 500$, versus a no-GPU but decent CPU laptop (my pick would be ryzen 7 5825u) which would go around 300$, of course rtx 2050 would perform better but, in the end both wouldn't play the newest AAA game, so would it be worth the 40% price gain?
Except if you have a Acer helios 16 where Acer has locked everything CPU related. Acer when it comes to gross negligence is a champion.
yup. Helios 300 here can't do anything
I have Helios 18 with I7-13700HX and undervolting is locked. I'm stuck @ 19K with Cinebench R23. I got 25K with undervolting on Lenovo Legion on i7-13700HX.
The most very effective one is having a llano cooling pad. My temp went from 72 c to 45-50 c at full use or gaming
Tip #10, Move to a colder country as colder ambient temperature help significantly.
From my experience, if you use an AMD cpu you can disable cpu boost in the windows setting (or if you're using an asus laptop you can use g-helper to turn it off) this simple change can lower your cpu temperatures from 80-90 degrees to 60-70 on heavy load, and it only costs you around 5% of your fps (sometimes it doesn't even affect it at all)
I don't know how this will affect Intel cpus performance though
A stand normally all you need and limiting your fps. If you have a decent laptop this make your laptop shouldn't reach the 80s anymore and 70s and lower is completely safe and won't cause damage to laptop CPUs and GPUs because they are designed to run safely until 84 on GPU and 90 or 95 on CPUs. I'd only suggest the extra stuff like a cooling pad if you're running turbo to get max framerates and you mostly play competitive games. Personally I can lock in 144fps and not really feel a difference in play and still have good temps in the high 60s or low 70s but I understand people can be more frame sensitive than others. A small undervolt can also really help too would suggest watching a guide but it's not necessary.
I know you just test laptops on stock settings with latest windows and driver updates because most people won't do anything past that but, It would be helpful if you made a guide for undervolting detailed yet simplified explanation like all of your reviews because no one beats the quality of review you provide and you review many laptop thus, I can't help myself but ask you this because all I find is people suggesting to turnoff cpu turbo boost for cooler temps with a quote if you need more performance why don't you get a desktop
Watercooling loop - > only. You get awesome temps and dead silence :)
Hey Man I think you are the best person to ask this doubt, Does undervolting the gpu and overclocking it decreases it's life span?? I've got a legion pro 5i with RTX 4060, 80mV undervolt on 13700HX gave my laptop a +6000 Score in cinebench r23, I've also tried to undervolt the GPU and tried to overclock it by increasing GPU Memory and Core clock speeds while decreasing max voltage, at around 0.85V and 2560Mhz on Core and +500 on Memory game started to show some weird colored small artifacts... I'm just confused whether underclocking GPU + Overclocking it is potentially destroying my GPU or is this actually good for longevity since lower temperatures... Please if you've got to read this give a reply, tried reddit but didn't get any satisfacory explanations there...
I would like a video on how to use Lenovo software to boost speed safely! Legion 7 9th Gen please
Sorry, too old and niche for a video.
@@JarrodsTech ol dang.
When are you going to make a review about the Lenovo legion pro 5i Gen 9?
Aside from CPU undervolting, gpu undervolting is a big heat and power saver for nvidia laptops. Very easy to do using msi afterburner. There are plenty how to vids floating around for doing that. Amd lapop gpus don't undervolt as far as I know, you can only power limit them.
Also, for AMD laptop cpus, you can't undervolt but there's a power limiting trick you can do in one of the advanced option submenus. You just turn down minimum and maximum processor power down from 100% to 99%. This will reduce cpu clock speeds and limit boosting behavior. In most games the performance loss will be negligible but this trick can drop cpu temps anywhere from 10 to 20c.
I've been running my legion 5 pro with a 5800h and 3070 this way for the past 4 years and the highest temps I ever get peak in the low to mid 70s. It often runs in the mid to high 60s. Performance wise I would say I'm giving up 5% to 8% of its max capability, but the greatly lowered heat generally provides more stability over long gaming sessions.
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in your lowering game settings to lower temps test you need to limit fps to see how much of a difference it really makes, Same with DLSS so you should redo these tests with a fps cap of 60, 80 or 100 fps depending on the game
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Greetings sir, a follower from India. I have helios neo 16, to reduce the temperature is it ok to use fan at max when gaming like always high. Is it harmful for fan, will it reduce the fan’s life?
2:46 true, my MSi Prestige P65 9SD with an i7-9750H is one of those that would severely thermal throttled unless I use either the super expensive Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme or Conductonaut (which is very risky if you're not applying it correctly). 🫠
If I don't use either one of these two top of line TIMs, the idle temp would be hovering around 67-70 C, and would instantly spike up to 80+ the moment I do anything. Even if it is just opening a frigging File Explorer.
Running games or productivity apps (especially the more CPU demanding ones) would lock it over 88 C. I don't even need to run AIDA64 or Cinebench to get this high.
If your air cleaner blows air to the top. You can put your laptop on top of it. It works magical. Other youtuber tested it and it performs way way better than ALL other external solutions.
personally I reduce settings a bit so GPU use is around 90 instead of 100 to reduce noise and temps
What is the thermal paste that you recommend?
Question: You said that it's fine to max out your fans as long as you can tolerate the noise. Does this not hurt the fan's life span at all? Like it doesn't overwork the fan and shorten how long 'till you have to replace it? Sry for my unintelligence.
my 2022 helios 300 with 3070 ans 12700h crash on fortnite when i use extreme and turbo and on cinebench r23 the multicore drop to 13.000... do you know why?
Here's, most significant technique, that can drop your temp. for almost 15°C. It's disabling turbo boost CPU.
You could do it through Control Panel > Choose a power plan > Change plan settings (I made another power plan so I can switch between WITH turbo boost or WITHOUT turbo boost anytime) > Change advance power settings > Pick the "Processor power management" > Pick the "Maximum processor state" and set to 99% and pick the "Processor performance boost mode" and set to Disabled.
That's it and voila, for gaming, it's actually really useful, knowing that most games are GPU bound, so lowering CPU performance isn't that bad, its even make higher performance you got for some games. Though ofc this technique is not recommended for CPU bound games such as Valorant.