Mewtwo's Killer Confusion Trap - Smash Ultimate
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2019
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The Gimz singlehandedly pushing the general meta. You da man.
Nanika
It's a dirty job but...
well, along with help from his comments as seen here, but he IS spreading the word with good explanation
i like that gimr gives light to the characters that are pretty underused in the game
*cough* KIRBY *cough*
Haha snake is underused lmao?
That moment when you realize that the " *CHING* " noise is just a sped up smash 64 hit sound :0
WTF!! You're right!
And then the last sound was the ko sound effect
What *ching* sound?
@@greenshark45 the sound you hear when you land a hit with the homerun bat/Jigglypuff's Rest .
this will come in handy for the 8 remaining mewtwo players
Make that 9
there are dozens of us, DOZENS
@@tajiamgohda we should hang out
actually i counted nine, myself included ):
@@darnitgarnet2887 you, me and who else?
So cool that you and your brother esam run pound!
Extremely underrated comment
A while ago i saw something on Twitter where Zelda was able to move *immediately* after fully charging her Phantom. Would you mind labbing that ? I’ve tried but I have the execution timing of a diseased goat.
Add in displacing phantom and it's even better
Phantom tech would be great to see.
*holy shit please no, don't let this be real, oh god oh fuck*
What? That just how it is. Once it's fully charge you can do anything. Like try buffering jump, there's no cool down to fully charge phantom.
JustHANO If I find it on Twitter again I’ll link it to you. You’re right, but what I’m talking about is kinda hard to explain.
mewtwo is a grappler now tell ur friends
He always has been, in Ultimate. His throws are insane.
@@selensbelgiangachikoi3190 *slightly above average
@@sefflikejeff1917 Well above average.
@@nemisisarcher8213 well above average offense
Well below average defense.
Always has been.
Just found out Gimr's outro is the best thing ever
Oooooohhhhh this explains a lot. Yesterday I fought a Mewtwo who spammed the hell out of confusion once I got to high percent. I was wondering what that was about.
Appreciate the attention, m2 needs more. But this was discovered at least in a theoretical sense early on. The main issue is that m2 has no trouble killing, and even if he doesnt find the kill then uthrow works on most characters by 150. So the main situations this is useful is if they are likely to shield on the ground when between 140 and 150, or when shieding on a platform above 140... Not exactly crazy common stuff.
Cant wait to see more content though. If you want to test something else out for m2. Close hit dtilt (which comboes from sb) can combo into a slightly delayed shff nair which can pop up into another one on pop up or maybe if they land grounded could combo into footstool>disable. But nair is extremely inconsistent and we cant figure out exactly how it works. Figuring out how nair works could not only help landing nair comboes like that but also make 0-deaths like fcsb>dtilt>fhnair (hitting forward)>djuair>fair a consistent thing.
Oh shit it's ya boi Bambi
___ I3ambi are you in the Pokémon lab Bambi? :)
@eric Spencer Did anyone every figure out the mysteries of nair?
Also you forgot about Pokemon Trainer's frame 1 switch
fffff
@@GimR literally the most well known frame 1 invincible
This is the one I was waiting for
was expecting trainer first when he was gonna list characters who can get out
the WHAT
where's my two minutes of black screen to make it 10 mins
fffffff
GimR's Lab I still believe the gimz always wins. This was just a statistical anomaly...
He went back to the lab too quick
GimR's Lab just loop the song
You legend ... I was thinking exactly that when I clicked this xD
If it weren't for that final Jiggs clip, I would not have realized that the Rest sound effect is literally the Smash 64 hit sound effect in a really high pitch.
"Ah shit, here we go again"
Epic
It's time for us to strike back!
*Laughs in Mewtwo*
Everyone else:
*Laughs in Tail Hurtbox*
GimR will make actually all the characters broken with those discovery
if everyone’s broken nobody is
GimR coming out with all the traps like he's Fred from Scooby Doo
5:15 you had me lmaoo
This move has been buffed. I repeat, this move has been buffed.
Jigglypuff interrupts the combo
**UH-OH**
Thanks for all your hard work in the lab Gimz. Can't wait to watch the tournament on stream. We appreciate you
The same frame advantage mechanic happens with Isabelle's jab, except it's even better than Snake's down throw and Mewtwo's side special because it technically doesn't have set knockback. What this means is that it doesn't have a cap and it even gets higher with rage, though higher weight will likewise make it lower. It's amazing how so few people know about this and how everyone says it's one of the worst jabs in the game when it's actually the best, lol. Could definitely be worth making a video on.
I knew you got frame advantage based on percent but I never thought that it mattered on anything else. Thanks so much for this video!
Davis Kong What's up gamer
I subbed cause I’ve been a mewtwo main since melee and you’ve made me happy showing this trick to other people.
Keep pushing that ult meta bro we love you for it
Good stuff Gimz. I saw a theorycraft of this jump confusion to Fair on some obscure low karma reddit sub about 2 months back but ofc it wasn't as in depth as this.
Before you made this video I picked mew two for like 2-3 days and he simply clicked with me, saw this video and simply great, this is the type of content I subscribed for, new to the community and love it so far!
"i'm busy, it's back to the lab with me"
i bet he always just watches an episode game of thrones or some anime every time after the video
>.> true
I will practice this technique carefully, thank you so much.
Now, time to continue with my casual playstyle with competitive rules on online smash to elite smash with this character.
Hang in there buddy. Thanks for your videos, and for VG boot camp. I'd go to your tourney if I lived anywhere close. It's difficult but you're moving up man.
I so glad u put this out because I've been saying for weeks that side b fair is a kill combo. Omg and I've said confusion on shield is amazing.
So simple, yet so cool! Nice content. I kinda missed this upload first because of the standard thumbnail that looked like a let‘s play or something :/
Wait Marthcina's up b is invincible frame 1? I thought it was like frame 4-5 or something along those lines
Beambam hitbox is on frame 4 but the invincibility is frame 1.
Amazing!
Also, when it came to characters jumping out of endlag, their hurtbox shifts differently if they doublejump in neutral position vs doublejumping away. In my experiences with S4, jumping toward & jumping in neutral were the same for most fighters, but jumping back was different. Just a little thought.
Killer queen has already touched that distortion in the air
Killer Queen AKA Jigglypuff.
Hi GimR! First of all, I just found your channel and I have to say that I’m loving your content! Also, do you just happen upon different techs fro characters, or do you try and decide that you’d like to showcase something for a specific character?
In the very back of my mind i remember gimrs outro...dawg you funny af. 😂😂😂
This is so smart and I'm excited to try it out more
You da man GimR! Keep up the stellar work bro
Dude I learned so much from this vid thank u a lot
I mained m2 in 4 so I might try looking into him in ult now 👀. Thanks fam
Wisnam He plays considerably different from his Smash 4 counterpart and we’ve been nerfed to a mid-low tier, if that affects your viewpoint going into it. He’s still a crazy fun character in this game.
Brayden Smith yeah i tried him and he felt a lot different. He doesn’t seem that bad though. But idk
@@mayisthebestfr my biggest issue is it's so hard to land safely with Mewtwo
He's high tier if you play lame like hungrybox.
@@edwinnaranjo9435 no because his tail has a hurtbox lol
Ok, i thought id seen it all with mewtwo until i tried this out today and turned the tables on my king Krool rival.
Thank you Gim.
Thanks for noticing. I’ve been noticing dragdown nair after confusion spparently has applications as Nair also comes out frame 7. It always seems to pop them behind mewtwo afterwards although I’m not sure if the fullhop and shorthop versions get different results in that regard.
LMAO that ending. I was about to ask about that.
Another great video! I'm really enjoying the content!
thank you!
"it tells you in the game you can do this"
It also tells you in the game that you can hold both shield buttons or shield and B to shuffle shield without a roll or spotdodge and yet people acted like that's arcane knowledge.
Damn... Thanks Gimr.
That ending though
Great video. Good luck with Pound ;)
Mew2’s Side B to Down B is a True Combo
Poor falcon never gets a break
Gimr’s lab time!!!!!
This is the best smash ultimate channel out there. Thanks for all the great content Gimz!
damn dude. I really appreciate the love!
I did an actual dance when I saw new Mewtwo tech
*It hurt it self in confusion*
5:12 LET'S GOOOOOOO
This is insane gimr...one day I hope something like this comes out for falcon :]
I love mewtwo so much
Gimr the meta maker
Palutena's landing Nair kind of works like that, the higher the % the higher stun on opponent for follow-ups
I knew me spamming confusion on everyone had a solid base. I was getting SO much out of it. This makes all the sense to me
I love this. I might be tryin to use this shiz. I mained mewtwo in smash4 for a bit after his release. It was nice.
Thank for your great content.
Is this Overcooked music? Hell yeah!
it's rom odyssey
Idk I feel like if they roll behind you after the spaced fair on shield and you buffer the confusion that's a free f smash or any kind of punish tbh especially because of mew2's tail hurtbox
So in short, confusion is only slightly less useless now that we know it works best when used with a Fair.
Now *this* is the character-specific tech I was waiting to see. Not that Ice Climbers blasphemy
"blasphemy" Fuck off.
Oliver Xu damn son you mad
Kirby's dtilt (when it doesn't trip) also has increased frame advantage the higher percent they are、although it's just a fringe kill setup for Kirby himself、it could translate to other characters with moves that force people to slide when they get hit similar to Kirby dtilt.
oh and something important is Villager's Lloyd Rocket comes out frame 1 and fresh mewtwo fair does enough damage to explode it - activate "lloyd counter"
stale fair just hits us but if fair is fresh and we're both high percent, mewtwo could literally just die instead.
Ken also gets +1 at higher percents for crescent kick. The balancing team really knows what they're doing.
Oh hey Mewtwo, I just saw u in a video of armada talking about who needs buffs
I suppose this can help with Mewtwo metagame, strong kill confirm from a command grab at the cost of having Mewtwo’s entire tail be a hurtbox. Its huge.
woah, i didn't know there was an event in maryland, I gotta go (started playing around when smash 4 was on its way out) hope to see you there.
hope to see you there too!
This man is a genious
Yo Gimr thanks for the video..can you lab Grab techs? the game talks about it being a thing and I feel like people forgot that it exists lol I'm also wondering if it works on tether/command grabs
Mewtwo giving Wolf some Vietnam flashbaks in the thumbnail
doing more effort that BSB. Thank you for sharing this
cap theme, excellent choice
wow a kill confirm on almost the whole cast
I do confusion with mostly smash attacks all the time but I never did one with out jumping unless I need to get back on the platform without getting hit
Confusion > a smash attack will usually whiff at lower percents, especially if they don’t DI. Fair or dtilt are great options if you can land them, or you could pursue their reaction, like a tech chase
This is so awesome. Love Mewtwo and you're doing great work.
I saw SDX do a side B to F air on a Wolf at 165%, I think it was even possible in Smash 4
I believe the move didn't have the scaling property it does now in 4 and was slightly "better" overall. Notably, how it didn't halt his momentum. As I never faithfully played with or against the character, idk if confusion set ups were 50/50s or true combos in 4
when i used to try this move my attacks always go right through the enemies... like they were airdodging, but they werent.
You forgot to mention how when somebody is on the lower Battlefield platforms or Pokemon Stadium platforms how you could do a short hop and then instantly cancel the height of it with confusion to be able to beat shields on platforms. There are a couple characters where I think you could uptilt them but doesn't kill I quit Mewtwo just before I found it out.
big.
That event was in Maryland? I wish I knew about earlier.
gimz, did you test if there's any extra frame advantage for hitting with a meaty confusion?
I wonder if there are more grabs/commend grabs with the same properties.
I like this tech and this video, problem is decent amounts of frame confusion frame advantage kinda happens a little late when a tomahawk grab upthrow would do just fine for all but the heaviest boys. Just seem pretty extra considering how on point your opponent has to be for this bad boy to be busted out
You can also use it from farther ranges and on platform campers, and there's no harm in at least attempting it before 140%
Follow up question: How do you buffer a full hop aerial? If you buffer both a hop and an aerial it comes out as a short hop due to the game auto-shortening your hops when you press any other button.
you can't buffer full hop aerial. You can only buffer full hop specials, air dodges and double jumps
7:52
You sound like you're about to burst into tears.
Thought there may be some confirm with this that’s cool
You should do some peach tech I feel like theres a lot of interesting things you could find!
Yooo I'm from Beltsville Maryland bro! I didn't know you were local. Just subscribed and may join the tourney next year! Cheers dude!
Haha, that's aweseome! Consider coming to Xanadu sometime, it's about 15 minutes from ya!
@@GimR I didn't know it existed. Thanks for the recommendation!
I was wondering whether ganon’s side b had some kind of advantage frames with it. Would appreciate it if someone took a look at that.
hmmm..
Oh fuck-
It's super effective
Yo! I did this on accident fighting a computer and now I'm so glad this video confirms it's a thing. Now I need to practice it.
Also, Shulk can switch to shield monado before mewtwo's F-air comes out.
Heyyyyy s/o to Maryland 💜 the whole dmv