you mean another they have already one how is constantly in the warp and the feets the boltgun marine hase done are around the same scale so it would be number 3
@@petertomanovich6652nope it wouldn’t be empty he didn’t empty hell either but at the very least they wouldn’t see any creatures from the warp for as long as he’s in their (I know it was a joke)
However I don’t think that Doomguy would get along with the Grey Knights since he wouldn’t like the fact that they usually murder innocent guardsmen and imperium civilians at all.
Well, it’s a good thing. They’re not capable of killing any kryptonian ever these are guys who can toss planets around they’re not getting beaten by a bug. For God sakes there is literally a real estate agent in Dragon Ball Z that would casually species wipe their entire species because they were a problem for his investment portfolio. I’m not joking by the way that’s actually what Frieza is.
@@charlottewalnut3118if something such as possibly the chaos gods combined could make Superman bleed which is possible through combined strength the Tyranids could absorb a single puddle and poof we’re fucked
People like to underestimate the level of bullshit in 40k, huh. No, the imperium's best option would be sending a custodes shield host. That would put him down. Quite easily, in fact. Or just a named ultramarine. Such as i, Cato Sicarius.
" To take a town, send a legionary; to take a city, send a squad; to take a world, send a company; to take a culture, send a chapter". Quoted from "Know no Fear".
Which I call bullshit on. One hundred Marines couldn't take modern day earth. I don't care how strong your made up NOTplastic armour is, you are not tanking a125mm APFSDS shot.
@@Alby-td3ub Meh..... Malice or the Dark King would be more funny! Oh and i cast onthological gun out of the Lions secret dark age of technology weapon stash given to him from Big E
Okay, so for the COG, I'd actually see them being assimilated into a guard regiment since they are a human civilization. They'd basically only have one choice, convert to the worship of the Emperor and use your gears as Guardsmen for the Imperium, or be annihilated. Honestly the COG might actually take a bit less convincing if the Imperium deals with the Locust problem for them. They'd probably fight the Imperium at first but since it'd be ground battles mostly, the COG would likely surrender and be forced to join the Imperium.
To be fair, it'd depend on how hostile the COG really is to the imperium- The ecclesiarchy has a missionary service, and that planet of humanity is clearly beset by Xenos The humans there have never known the light of the emperor- So their not Heretics. Their Pagans. And the Ecclisarchy cares enough about their souls to send assistance. Now the end result is dragging COG into the imperium, but I can only imagine COG would be overjoyed to have assistance, especially human assistance. At least at first.
Doomslayer would most likely be like: "Alright, I'll deal with the Warp and the chaos gods, and the tyranids and the dark eldar. I'll even slap the orks onto the pile for fun." Then he would turn around to the Imperium, raise his finger at them and be like: "But YOU better not start anything or there will be hell to pay."
one of the reasons why i dislike 40k comparisons is because in all of our fandoms, many of them are grounded in some sort of realistic scale. the idea that 40k wins because its 40k, because of it's scale is stupid. ofc its going to win its set in a galaxy wide setting. the arguement is always the same, can they beat the space marines, oh they can? how about the orcs and eldar? oh they can? how about the chaos, and it goes on and on until we reach the necrons and c'tan. then by default 40k wins again. anything that can absolutely crush 40k's universe wholesale is deemed controversial. a viltrumite is not on par with the level of an custodes, we just saw a viltrumite go through an entire planet, we seen mark throw a fucking moon and somehow its on par with a custodes. throw a custodes into the sun see if they survive. never mind custodes, even our golden boy cant throw a moon or fly through a planet or survive being inside the sun. the universe of invincible, its heavy hitters, the viltrum empire, battle beast, alien, mark, his dad, his brother and daughter. would be able to crush the all of chapters and legions of the space marine excuding the emperor. it would take some time but they probably can. but can they survive chaos and its many influences probably not. we've seen the viltrum empire crumble because of a plague so nurgle alone would wipe them out. i think helldivers dont get enough credit, since every single death a player plays is considered cannon, humanity is apparently in the trilliions at this point all in 1 planet. but really with how often hell divers call in air supports like 500kg bombs and napalm, i think they could give 40k a run for its money. its not going to win obviously but that universe isnt going down without a fight.
hell the necrons could just throw him in a box and forget he ever existed since their technology scales up to the 20th dimension if not to outerversal aswell
@@ChrisScott-g1p one caveat is the humble las gun can interact with almost all forms of energy and matter. This means even the most dense materials like Adamantium, high carbon steel, titanium, or other esoteric materials, all have their atomic bonds broken by the mass produced las gun. Shields of any sort, magnetic, gravetic, atomic force, etc are all disrupted by the intense pinpoint instability caused by the LARGE amount of energy deposited by the man portable weapon system.
Personally I imagine V going up to tech priest and going “CHROME ME UP!” We then cut to a techpriest party where they are chanting “ MORE CYBERNETICS” like humans going “Chug chug chug” as v is enhanced with multiple new cybernetics. Hell I love to imagine a tech priest takes inspiration from V’s chrome and uses it on guardsmen, commissars and inquisititors. Imagine a commissar with mantis chainsaw blades, guardsmen with a blood pump, inquisitors with the arm cannon.
V would immediately be executed as a heretic and his chrome locked away from laypeople or destroyed as perversion of the true flesh and reeking of abominable intelligence.
16:08 Khorne starts hearing Rage of Sparta getting louder and louder "I left you the last because you reminded me of what I used to be without discipline"
I'm not saying Titanfall would win, i just think you're underrating titans, along with specters, and reapers. I think a titan is probably halfway between a dreadnought and a terminator. Also, your example of titans being bad at multiple target engagement is invalid because that was a titan surrounded on all sides by titans. An ultramarine surrounded on all sides by traitor ultra Marines would fare equally poorly. Off the top of my head i don't know how the scale of production of the two franchises add up, but the imc and militia are both massive AND spaceborn AND have more prolific heavy weapons, so they'd definitely fare much, much better than gears or helldivers.
I was surprised by how he said Titans are much slower on ground on average compared to a space marine. Like bro, the average Titan is booster dancing across the battlefield and could punch or kick an Astartes quite a distance due to their size and mass, warp shenanigans would be rough but a squad of 10 Titans would certainly fare decently against a larger force of Astartes, even just two Legions could cut them up while protecting themselves and their backline sufficiently and a Ronin teleporting behind a squad of Astartes to cleave them in two would be lethal
@@Wikid0Majik ok? Did you not read my comment? I never said Titanfall would win. Also, as much as it seems like the imperium is logistically infinite, they do NOT have infinite titans, and their titans are NOT invulnerable to capitol ship grade weapons.
Being how we are talking of other IPs, your comment reads as tho you are talking of TF Titans, ME Reapers, and specters ( you meant Eldar?) could be many things...
@@joekrafft7125That's a cap. The big E can and will stop time, plus he’s quick and intelligent. Do not bring your heresy towards Big E or the Omnissiah.
@@Bloodangel921yeah its cap But adam smasher or v legit body anything below a custodian with like...zero diff Idc how much a black templar prays when 2 30gram slugs moving in excess of of mach 5 nail his ass before he or his company can draw their weapon
Meanwhile Azathoth: "Huh, that was a funny dream." and Yog-Sothoth: "Damnit dude... Its only been 14 billion years. Your supposed to get at least 8-10 trillion years of sleep per night.... Besides we were just getting to the good part of the dream."
Man the helldivers are way underrated here, it takes like a month to get anywhere for 40k so the helldivers could go to agri worlds and one by one turn them into black holes, then running away before the fleets get there. Doing this they could just starve out the imperium until it collapses.
One by one? That's cute. Sorry, I don't know if you're aware, but at the scale the Imperium of man is on, you would maybe starve a few dozen star systems in a single sector of civilized space out of literal hundreds of thousands of such sectors spread across half of the Milky way galaxy. No matter how sneaky you are, you would be forced to engage the Imperial Navy at SOME point simply due to the nature of the unknowable size of the Navy, and at the rate that the Imperium is constantly expanding and contracting, such tactics would not prove helpful in the long run when you are also at the same time competing with the various Xenos and Chaos factions which would be just as quick to chase the Helldiver's navy into the void as any Imperial Navy strike force sent in to investigate the loss of agriworlds. In short, the Helldiver's best bet is to capitulate to the Imperium. Even with the vast variables in warp travel, one or two Imperial ships will eventually get lucky and jump out of the warp far earlier than anticipated, and this happening over and over again over the course of literal decades. Not to mention the warp storms and anomalies which regularly pop up at random across the galaxy, which the Helldiver's would have no means of understanding would prove catastrophic over any period of time navigating the void in 40k, considering your proposed tactic of "just do what the Dark Eldar do". Never underestimate the Imperium's capacity to take staggering loss after loss after loss and come back swinging with unending hatred far harder and from a different direction than you expected.
The thing is with helldivers.. they are fast sure.. but it would be like a fly trying to kill a elephant. In space the imperiums fleet is slower but hits hard and in sheer numbers the small ships of the divers will not be able to stay long enough to support the helldivers in ground battle.. Helldivers drop pod in to a hive world.. they then run out of supplies and have no air cover. Their shop either left or got destroyed. They have speed and thats it. They would be better off joining the imperium. Unless there is some Epic fleet with large destroyers that could survive space warfare. All we have seen mostly is the small strike cruisers used to drop hell divers off. With out air support and orbital support helldivers are screwed.
Agree, the Helldivers would definitly be a pain in the Ass for the imperium simply because they more or less work exactly the same as the guard. Got the problem solved after we tossed 10.000 Guardsmen/Helldivers at it? No? Ok then send 100.000 more and if that does not work make it a million. Yes in the end the imperium would very likely be able to uphold this wall of Flesh way longer than the divers and claim the victory, but that does not mean that the helldivers would be no threat. The ability of the super destroyers to safely jump in and out of sytems within seconds would make it hard for the Navy to really get rid of them. Especially because the Warp could claim entire fleets of the imperium without a big issue. And even if a fleet does not get destroyed it could be lost for millenias simply because time works diffrent within the warp.
@@freed991 One more thing, most people haven't seen the rest of super earth's fleet. These mention of cruisers and battleships as well as the destroyers used for the helldivers.
A Diver's average lifetime in a combat zone is 18 minutes. I really don't think super earth could manage to destroy so mamy worlds without getting bodied by the guardsmen, let alone a space marine (singular btw)
Can't lie, dude did cyberpunk dirty. In Warhammer 40k terms I genuinely think the notable characters of cyberpunk 2020 & 2077 are on the same level of the Officio Assassinorum (except the Calexus temple) and some Mechanicum units. I think most people forget that both have taken on Astartes chapters and have actually put up a pretty good fight. Also I don't think people actually understand how OP CP2020 can get either.
yeah dude did not look outside the games, almost all soldiers have some form of cybernetic enhancement, they have more suits of power armor (ACPA) then all the space marines put together, maybe even all sisters of battle that isnt even covering all the borgs, that would outnumber the 1 million astartes, and are all around peak human and potentialy stronger and faster their weapons are aso better then standart bolters for borg and ACPA weapons
Seriously he must’ve only only ever played the game, and maybe seen the anime; doesn’t know the full lore. They’ve never heard of things like the IEC Dragoon or the Arasaka DaiOni. They need to go back and watch the scene of David first entering the cyber skeleton. Tell me that grav tech couldn’t mince a squad of marines before tiring. Also a dark age ship was able to hack space marine armor, so a net runner might be able to. Space marines are fast, but things like the apogee sandi cut time to 1/10th speed. Lore has augmented humans seeing Astartes as a blur, very similar to a low grade sandi to a high end one. At the very least a legend like smasher, David, or V could reasonably go 1v1 with a Marine and I wouldn’t know who to put my money on.
@@joaosturza you make a good point with APCA/borg weapon. Insane calibers are common in the universe, with people having the cyber limbs to wield them.
@@Maxsmack I remember seeing a short that said cyberpunk has some of the best railgun tech too. bc of how easy some of the rail guns can shoot right thru solid objects.
That’s becours people compare it to sci-fi universes, when 40k is magic… Like a guardsman can use a bolster to kill a spcemarine, but there warp färbenden makes spacemaeines so good. There literally the main character. But compared to the average high high fantasy??? Or god forbid the cultivators The self invert main characters wuld tech them a hole new definition of plotsrmor
Halo has a few, Xeylee obviously has all of them, and DC and Marvel have quite a few. I disagree that the Viltumites body the Imperium, and the 3 Body problem also has untold civilizations that body the Imperium.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Facts, anybody who read invincible or heard what happens knows nolan is pretty safe, and that he is also nowhere near the strongest character in his verse.
Helldivers easily take a few planets at least 30 but after that not so much but that would be horrifying as a guards man seeing thousands millions maybe even billions of lazers and nukes with napalms and the rest scorch a planet
Viltrumites aren't immune to pathogens but just extremely resistant (their race got almost wiped out by one after all) so tbh i think the imperium could take them down using bio-weapons or in the worse case scenario, the life eater virus. Maybe phosphex would work too (its basically a semi-sentient phosphore weapon on giga-steroids)
13:11 Objection! I believe that psykers could still defeat the viltrumites. While you did mention brute strength and magical destruction, you forgot to talk about another aspect of psykers - manipulation. While not as widespread as their smiting counterparts, manipulation specialists are employed by the Ravenguard, the Inquisition and other branches of the Imperium. So, while a force lightning or warp flame could not damage the viltrumites, a skilled psyker could have a serious shot at posessing one and turning him against his xenos scum allies.
Yeah lol no besides just the obscene speed they have ie able to legit flick a rock the moment they feel them trying it and turning their body to mush viltrimites bodies are made of smart atoms and have different biology as well as just infinite faster minds. In general trying to do it will just give them a headache unless its like an alpha + psyker.
there is a good chance that some random tribal from Rimworld would just oneshot a spacemarine with a bow that barely qualifies and that's even before getting into the archeotech artifacts and psycasting
Then he gets mad that he hasn't eaten yet and storms off from the fight while his heavily armored friend keeps fighting. This heavily armored friend dies in a single shot... By a stray lasgun.
I definitely think that some of the weirder playthroughs of Rimworld could put up a decent fight. With a few ranking rather high. Francis John is a good example when a player can break the game into easy mode. I still remember when he led a 5 man crusade of magic murder munchkins or when he took over a combat tile and fought wave after wave of enemies turning their weapons into slag and creating tailcaps out of their flesh.
If any of the tech-priests come to the conclusion that the borg queen is the omnissiah...I mean, she could show up like their golden emperor, and if the adeptus mechanicus splits from the imperium, it's jover.
@@geoffreysherman609 And even if the average person doesn't know how the tech works, as @joaosturza said, Borg can directly assimilate tech. A cube hits a hiveworld and the Imperium is the big fucked. I doubt a drone could take a marine, or even some of the specialist guard units in a fight. But the Borg overall would adapt very quickly to the Imperium's tactics and tech. And their own tech has some advantages, since both phaser and disruptor tech work *better* against dense and heavy armor rather than worse. And transwarp and warp means no need to traverse the...uhh, warp. They'd end up overwhelming Imperium forces with sheer numbers and technological superiority, as they'd have no issues reverse engineering and upgrading tech they find.
IDK, I think the Xeelee are roughly a War in Heaven tier species meaning that there are 40K cultures like the Necrontyr or Old Ones who could have fought them, especially if it's just a single Xeelee But a Photino Bird from Xeelee Sequence would have ended the entire 40K universe without even noticing
@@libertylemonz7145 To quote the President of the Daily Bugle: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You serious? Jokes and quotes aside, I REALLY wouldn't call the mascots of the entire Xeelee Sequence series (which in turn is literally the namesake of the meme 'Xeeleestomp') 'merely War in Heaven tier'. These cretins godstomped the Transcendance (basically Humanity in the far, Far, FAR future that had the power to merge all possible timelines of Humanity into a single meta-reality, which is far more insane than it looks and sounds) back to the literal stone age in the timespan of a single day while brutally losing a war against the Photino Birds that was so one-sided that not only did some of the Photino Birds SIMPLY NOT REALIZE that they were butchering Xeelee, but it just makes the War in Heaven look like a well-accustomed tea party in comparison. Oh, and that thing you said about how the Old Ones and Necrontyr could've fought a single Xeelee? The ICoG (a government of Humanity which made all of the combined and concentrated Grimdark from all of 40K look simply pathetic all by itself, used rifles which fired the Big Bang as its equivalent to a bolter and sported fighter spacecraft that individually possessed more firepower than the entirety of Segmentum Solar COMBINED) tried that in a twenty thousand year war, and that war didn't end in the ICoG's annihilation solely because that single Xeelee they were attacking got sick of humanity's garbage and simply left the Milky Way to find a way to actually have a chance against the Photino Birds, who can just toss entire galaxies at people who actually manage to irritate them. Want another idea of just how far the Xeelee Sequence as a whole is above 40K? The Squeem (the WEAKEST species in the Xeelee Sequence) could curbstomp War in Heaven Necrons, while the Silver Ghosts (the SECOND WEAKEST species) might as well steamroll the entirety of 40K, and they were both obliterated by the aforementioned ICoG.
A seasoned hell diver definitely could kill an astartes. We have to remember that in lore, chaos space marines get dropped by guardsman as well as tau, orks etc. being capable of killing space marines. Each of those factions on average are vastly inferior to space marines and yet they manage. Not every space marine is going to be a highly trained chapter master like Sigusmund or Dante. It's why during the great crusade legions often took heavy losses in their campaigns
You’re underrating space marines, every space marine is a veritable Demi god to a regular human, every space marine is highly trained, and extremely skilled, they are not fodder and in no circumstances could a diver take out an unnamed marine. A diver is on deathkorps of kreig level or commissar level at best.
Are you also forgetting that 40k weapons like the Lazgun are considerably more deadly than the standard fare of what the Helldivers use? That's why Chaos Marines can die to Guardsmen.
@@CerberusMalt I'm very doubtful a lazgun is more deadly the armament the hell divers wield. A lazgun usually only kills space marines through concentrated fire or targeting weak points in armor, such as the space marine eyes visor. The helldiver's are deployed with a much wider array of equipment, Autocannons and the Eruotor of capable of penetrating literal drop ships, rocket pods, sentry turrets of various armaments, nuclear bombs and much more are apart of a standard Hell Diver equipment. A Lazgun is NOT more effective than all of those weapons. Meanwhile hell divers equipment does just fine at cracking open the Heavy armor of Automaton devestators, Hulks, Bike Titans, chargers and more. A space marine is tough but a hell diver has more heavy fire power at their deployment than your average guardsman. A lazgun is known to blow off a limb at full power. Modern rifles can do the very same thing. People greatly overestimate the strength and scale of 40k. Guardsman aren't good because of their equipment, they are good due to their sheer numbers and religious zealotry save for the more elite units like Tempestus scions, Solar Auxilla, and Lucifer Blacks. As for armor, a Hell Diver is definitely more durable than your standard guardsman. They can survive getting rammed over by Chargers, giant armored insectoids bigger than small buildings. Hell Divers armor can hold up against rockets, laser fire, acide before failing. They definitely have more super human resilience than most guardsman we see. That being said a space marine definitely is still tougher overall in the armor department.
@@jianji-q8s Sure if the imperium actually had a competent head maybe. But considering lesser empires like the Tau are still alive, despite it being stated that the Imperium is larger and more powerful, I don't see every faction in the Imperium sorting out all of their problems to effectively deal with Super Earth. This isn't the organized Imperium lead by the God Emperor and his primarchs. The modern Imperium is an ineffective bureaucratic nightmare that is woefully incompetent at best and down right dysfunctional at worst. Anarchy and planetary rebellion is not uncommon in the 40k era of Warhammer. Unless super Earth manages to somehow immediately become a threat larger than the tyranids, necrons, orcs, chaos, etc. the Imperium isn't getting rid of them.
I think cyberpunk was incredibly downplayed here. The stats of many of Cyberpunk’s tech include army piercing and explosive and rail gun technology. And many of the augmented are physically equal to Space Marines, with automatic aiming
@@SlothIn3Dthe space marines did. they basically never do combined arms unless they fight with the guard. hell the imperium basically only does ww1 tactics. it’s why the tau dog on them in standard battles
To be fair he also discounted stuff like Helldivers tanking the equivalent of a las cannon and surviving. All because the bugs can kill you as if they aren't basically nids and unlike the guard you have very little room to spot and take them out.
ok, I will also throw my hat in the ring: Can BIONICLE SURVIVE in 40k? the short and most reductive answer is no, but lets break down why and what is brought to the table: so the issue with Bionicle's setting first and formost ironically is that the numbers brought are small. Large scale numbers for the setting only reach the thousands which is already a problem. secondly there aren't many Vehicles, so any and all strong points would be on the ground with man on man fights, and with Naval Battles their home is also their battle ship (and also god), albeit Mata Nui is quite literally a God Robot that can manipulate planets so I can't find it hard to believe it would be of a higher class then your standard eldar craftworld if he even activates at all the actors, pros and cons: Toa: the main heroes of the bionicle universe, they are biologically Cyborgs who can essentially live up to 10 thousand years (at least) like most of the inhabitants of the setting. while Bonkle is wonky with time scaling we don't really have a reference other then the face value of this statement. they basically use their own form of space magic in the form of elemental powers, which in the way they control them (creating, controlling and with some exceptions ABSORBING their elements) puts them closer on level to control with Avatar's benders then your average space wizard with larger feats like Gali Nuva being able to unleash one off powerful blasts that can flood entire islands with their power, however they still use their weapons as a focus for more efficient channeling, so its a weird hybrid. more importantly, Elements come in various flavors: Fire, Ice, Stone, Earth, Water, Air and the non-primary elements Plasma, The Green (plant life), Gravity, Magnetism, Psionics, Light, Shadow (special conditions needed for this), Sonics, Lightning, and Iron. Toa stand about 6-7 feet tall, have general mastery of their weapons and powers if given enough time to train (most dont), can lift about a ton without enhancements. Positives: Elemental powers depending on the Element of the Toa could be strong enough to combat small groups of Astartes if wielded by a VETERAN Toa, things like Iron, Plasma, and Magnetism can make them look like Tin cans to crush or melt with ease Kanohi Mask powers can also give a nice edge too on top of combat skills and powers Thousands of years of experience CAN give plenty of potential Cyborg bodies being about 85% mechanical means that their survivability is pretty high too, and can fix themselves too if they lose a limb Negatives: the Kanohi masks are their biggest weakness as well. clean sniper shots to anything that can knock off a mask with enough force or god forbid break it leave the Toa at half strength, and unable to use elemental powers Toa do not have rivival hacks, even if we cherry picked the strongest of the non legendary masks there isn't anything that can stave off death itself, and a lot of gear hypothesized would have to be cherry picked to compete The Toa Code prevents killing, which would also have to be ignored in times of war like this (I can make the list for the others later)
Fun fact: due to a bionicle easter egg in the 2022 galaxy explorer, bionicle exists whithin the world of lego space, which means you could count in the different lego space factions in this as well
Also if you consider the lego spacemen being between the size of either a normal human or a space marine(if you compare the physical model sizes) the toa are about the size of imperial knights
Here is an idea that can be a challenge too. I know people like to mock Star Wars when put up against 40k, but here is the challenge: You are in charge of a Star Wars faction of your choosing and you must lead them to winning scenario in 40K or as close to it as possible. Take in account the advantages that Star Wars has such as hyperspace, and see how you would command them to victory, if you can.
Eternal Empire from TOR would be my faction to run with. I'd take my time, consolidate control over the Iokath dyson sphere, and then simply overwhelm 40k with a fleet of literally trillions of ships. Seriously, some of the stuff in TOR breaks Star Wars because of how much closer it is to 40k in terms of power lol.
@@ASNS117Zero Just use peak Rakatan Empire, Every single being in the empire was a powerful force users around the equivalent to a beta level psyker in 40k without the disadvantages, their technology could repair itself from nothing and was conscious, they could glass a planet with a single ship and had a space station that could produce matter from pure energy at progressively increasing rate, Star forge would only ramp up it's power and production over time and a group of Rakatan warriors with forcesabers could easily take on a equivalent number of space marines from any space marine chapter. They literally defeated the celestials and stomped every other civilization including the ANCIENT sith at their full power. They were so powerful it's not even funny
Hyperspace routes have to be established first. Without it, you won't get that ftl travel. So you'd be in trouble in the warhammer galaxy. Warhammer spaceships are larger and have better firepower. I can't see you lasting too long in the Warhammer verse.
@louisnall3102 well if we allow hyperspace routes for the warhammer galaxy, then the imperium wouldn't stand a chance. Because the imperium is slow and clunky to react. Star wars universe could repeatedly do hit and run attacks.
@louisnall3102 Establishing new hyperspace routes shouldn't be difficult for the CIS either as they can send hundreds of drones into hyperspace in different directions and the survivors would establish the new routes. They can create routes all around the 40k galaxy and out maneuver most enemies.
5:15 - It's an understatement to say they are resistant to pathogens, the Astartes have several organs implanted in them devoted to the task. And then there's Mortarion...
They can breathe in 5% oxygen levels. As well as breathing water and volcanic ash. Pretty much as long as there is a small amount of air he can breathe just fine. That outside of his suit as well.
I HEAVEALY DISAGREE with Helldivers,you extreamly understimate them by comparing them to guardsmen even though they are lightyears to them,they only lightly panic when heavly injured,can use a wide range of weapons from pistols to lazer cannons and mechs,plus a helldiver with the proper gear could take down an Astartes like autocannons and Recoiless Rifles,not to mentions they can work together and find weakness.And finally the numbers,there're tens of millions of them while only a million astartes or so,and that's not counting the rest of the SEAF (which would be on the billions),it would be a Tau situation,not the top dog but it would take considerable resources and manpower to destroy Super Earth,not to mentions the eternal loyalty to Super Earth because why end up in a Imperial world that would be like living in Wolfenstein and having a Liberty awful time or live in a SE world where you Will have a considerable better life (compared to the Imperium) and if you capture SE they would mount a hellish resistance against the undemocratic Imperium,also Super Earth shines on its inovation and if required they could create planet destroyers,they didn't develop them because they were pointless
@@mryellow6918 How many of them wouldn't defect to Super Earth? There's only so many commisars and being able to regulary get sunlight and not eat your dead or tasteless slop
@@sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046 the emperor protects. 40k citizenry are fanatics and would call Super Earth heretical for not worshiping the Emperor. I would also note that your description of helldivers is... arguably less than what guardsman have.
imma going to disagree on the Edgerunner crusade, V is powerful, but cyberpunk earth has way better stuff in the table-top lore, power armor with AI that lets you fire multiple weapons per turn would be devastating in the tabletop, and they do still have nukes granted they would lose because they have less than 1 million people in space and no space weaponry but cyberpunk earth is almost impossible to hold because stuff like PDF and arbites cannot take the world Adam smasher also definitely beats at least 1 marine, he has 70 years of experience, that's enough to make it to captain in the astartes, and those are 70 years of fighting the problem isn't fighting cyberpunk earth, it's holding it, the tech priests would call for exterminatus on principle of the net being full of AI, and there are few natural resources since they were destroyed
You don’t really need to match the imperium to thrive in 40k you just need to be either as strong technologically and numerically as the tau or as well defended as the dark eldar The reapers from mass effect would be fun to see how they would take on 40k
Against anyone who's powerscaling in durability, attack potency, and destructive capacity is within the regular planet and moon tiers which requires a total of 59.44 zettatons for the GBE of Earth, 433 Exatons for the GBE of Mercury, and 29.6 Exatons for the GBE of Earth's moon every Astartes Legion and Custodes who isn't amped significantly by a exponential amount or built up a Alpha Plus tier pysker defensive barrier is going to get immediately one shot by the opponent's damage output. So a average Virtunimite would be a extreme danger to a entire Sector Fleet. Even Emperor Class Battleships and Gloriana Class Battleships would not be safe you would need to turn on the void shields as soon as possible and keep them on or else not even a thick adamantine hull and armor is going to protect you from a force worth Exatons tearing your ship from the inside out at relativistic plus combat and perception speeds. You would need to detonate the ship's Warp drives or use weapon systems installed in vessels like the Phalanx, the Speranza, and Abaddon's planet killer ships and the Black Stone fortresses to land a direct shot. Which is very hard to do when you are trying land a hit on a small speedy target that is moving at light speed all around your vessel faster then your very out of date ten thousand year old computer systems can track and intercept in time. I also think objective average Astartes alone taking over a city is a bit hyperbolic and takes away from the more in depth truth of the matter. Modern Astartes are used as strike forces now compared to their Great Crusade legion era selves. Meaning they are more sophisticated and adaptive for different hybrid option operations compared to the armies they were used as in the Great Crusade striking at the heads of rebellious movements and factions more often. Though there are times planetary campaigns are seen with full chapters those are special cases that require more logistics, resources, and fielded manpower and they very rarely happen when they are dealing with a other fronts they are getting slow grinding messages from the astropaths which can be sometime unreliable. The Imperium of Man's FTL communication networks really suck especially with how much of a concentrated monopoly of authority the varies inter-dependency institutions have in the Imperium of Man over bloated organization structure. In the Imperium of Man mostly everything that is restricted on the Imperium's institutes keep a frim tight grip on keeping the Imperium stagnant and regressive and barely advancing on certain fields in the massive overextended and uncleaned machine. The institutions, agencies, and houses are even willing to kill any person who tries linearly innovate their present technology even if the incentive intention was to make the Imperium more powerful in the long run those groups will be willing to kill such people most of the time and keep any knowledge of it for themselves into some office or vault where the contents of the documents or the blue prints of such research are simply forgotten for centuries or permanently. The Imperium of Man is often extremely self sabotaging and incompetent on purpose often. Compared to Stellaris, Warframe, and the Forerunners the Imperium's hiccups and inability to crush the Chaos movements and xenos incursions are often extremely heavy self imposed restrictions when they got so many chances to make effective advances yet even in areas like the Imperial Navy they screw up time and time again using backwards body grinding methods over using simple autoloaders. Even the UNSC and Terrans from Starcraft despite not having as powerful ships and as many deadly planet killing weapons with the exception of the Nova Bombs which are most destructive then average Exterminatus glassing ordinates would look at the meat grinding labor to load projectiles in Imperium ships and see how completely backwards that is and wasteful high cost of resources that is.
There's a mutitude of things that hard counter Viltrimites in 40k, void sheilds, psykers, daemons and warp stuff. That's not even going over durability ignoring weapons like a power weapons, pretty much every necron weapon in existence etc. A viltrimite cannot take on any 40k ships aslong as they have their sheilds up, if they fly into a void shield they will instantly be thrown into the warp and eaten by the infinite daemons that reside there. Void shields are litterely no joke, they tank terraton firepower like it's nothing. People forget that macro-cannons fire a kilo-ton project at almost the speed of light that is described as the size of habblocks, it's about 475.2 teratons per salvo from a light-cruiser.
@@NastyStankyChicken I wouldn't say they take teratons of power like it is nothing. Keep in mind it depends alot on the type of void shields, Cruiser class void shields are not as strong as Emperor Class Battleship void shields, and Emperor Class void shields are not as strong as Gloriana and so on forth with other ships above those. As I already said you better keep those void shields up or else your vessel is as good as dead and ship is destroyed. I would like to see where that is said with a light cruiser though. Some viltrimites are already well above petatons and exatons so 475.2 teratons wouldn't be too much of a problem for them. You require many exatons of force to really start to hurt the top tiers. The good thing is planet tier explosions can nearly kill Viltrimite as what happened when Mark, Omni-Man, and Thaedus destroyed Viltrum by ramming through it together and they nearly died in the attempt. An explosion that would require 83.5086 zettatons to overcome the planet's GBE. On devianart a guy named kirito352 went in depth about this planetary destruction and he did pretty good with his analysis. Being on the surface of the sun can also kill the high tier viltrimites and it seem like they only last at best 10 minutes while under such extreme destructive energies produced by the sun. The anti durability weaponry would need to actually hit the target and those are pretty rare and hard to deploy as logistics and supply lines in Warhammer 40k is very difficult to execute for every faction and it is hard to hit something that is moving at faster then light speeds when they want to move that fast. Not everyone is going to know they are gonna need those let alone actually hitting the mark.
My bet is they would underestimate the imperium and think the funny human running at him with a sword won't hurt him. Stand there and act tough thinking the sword will break. Then swish he head is gone. It would at least happen 3 times. Or maybe thinking they are a bad ass and stand on a void grenade or try and face tank a void missile. Then pop they are in the warp where at the end of the day your physical power can mean very little
@@freed991 After the first and couple times don't count on it especially for any warp based melee weapons. As soon as a Viltrumite feels even a ounce on pain in a few microseconds they are going to react very quickly. And it's going to be with full force making the person wielding it bloody paste on the ground. For vortex grenade it could be possible the super atoms might just let them resist better then regular matter does so if they aren't at the center where they are immediately pulled in the Warp and are just in the outer sphere of the radius I think the super atoms could give them some more resistance to the distorting pull then traditional matter. After all their bodies can resist the pull of black holes from far away so I wouldn't be too surprised if they could. Though mentally wise a whole other issue.
@@JohnLevi-t1w The Imperium faces beings that eclipse viltrimites by massive magnitudes and win, Daemons not even greater Daemons for example scale to outerversal. Viltrimites scale to multi-continental. It's easy to judge the Imperium at face value, but there's a ton of weapons and beings that scale very high in power levels. Any half decent psyker would make short work of a Viltrimite for example. That's not even including people like Ahzek Ahirman, Tigierius or Mephiston or it would be an absolute curb stomping.
Doomguy is practically the avatar of khorn. If you dropped him in the warp he might kill all the other chaos gods as he grows stronger as his hatred grows over time. He couldn't kill khorn himself, though as he has made khorn infinitly stronger, but he wouldn't lose either. The two two would be locked in eternal conflict growing more and more powerful over time. Doomguy is kinda like Hulk but just with his hatred of demons.
It's so interesting how every "space soldier" is around a similar level and gets outscaled by the 40k verse and then there's the Doomslayer, who would even humiliate a Primarch 💀
The key difference is 40k, because Ancient Warhammer had this kind of War: "Star-gods and cannibal suns. Warp-spawn and soulless legions that were more monstrous than any Abominable Intelligence. Machines that devoured entire worlds for fuel, and vampiric entities that drained the energy from stars. Cannons that could split reality with a single shot.' Fabius smiled. 'A war that laid waste to every galaxy in the universe. A war our existence has yet to recover from.Glorious to think of, isn’t it?'" -Fabius Bile : Clonelord And a Universe in Warhammer is infinite: " "Death is the realisation of what we really are. In death I see a million stars, in a single galaxy with millions of counterparts across an infinite universe."-the world engine And a Universe is also a Hilbert Space: "“Hmm.’ Nebusemekh thought. That is interesting. He called up the records of the most recent cases and studied them. ‘It appears that the virus, together with the host, withdraws from our frame of reference, thus disappearing from your monitors. It would also explain why the infection appears to strike at random. While there is no spatial connection between the different chambers in which my people have been infected, there will be a connection through the other frames of reference within Hilberkh space that allows the infected to escape your monitors. I fact, it is possible that within these folded frames of Reference in Hilberkh space whole dimensions May lurk, folded upon themselves. It May be that these are nascent universes, struggling towards birth and seeking energy to flare forth - the virus may be a way of drawing matter into itself. Even universes hunger.”-Kasrkin And guess one of the Capabilities of the Necrons... Dimensions! While modern 40k is just less than a Shadow of its former being, Ancient 40k just had weapons that could destroy the fucking Universe, and even the Multiverse (don't believe me? Just ask the Breath of the Gods)
heavily clickbaited title, you're not putting characters against the warhammer 40k universe, you're putting sci-fi factions against the space marines. extreme biases in favour of the space marines, "titans are great duelists but poor at taking on multiple angles at the same time" if you put them up against an equal number of marines as you say at 1:50 then taking multiple angles shouldn't be a consideration since it's a 1 to 1 ratio. "send one viltremite to take a culture" brother send 3 Adeptus Custodes to defend an entire planet from the chaos hordes
You know Adam Smasher would become the Iron Fists chapter master like full stop, you think they don't like civilians now just wait till chapter master Addicus Smashicus turns up to the relief effort, Marines Malevolent start taking notes on orphan squashing this *will* be on the test.
There are some realms however with entities that would scare even the inhabitance of the Warp and C'Tan with anxiety, a Fire Upon the Deep, Xeelee Sequence, Faction Paradox, Halo's the Flood, and Stellaris's Blokkats would be foes even the Chaos gods would have some uncertainty about totally breaking the Great Game and a threat to their own existence. Even a game like Star Ruler would be quite dangerous for the 40k galaxy's structural integrity. And some beings in Xeelee Sequence that can be described as having powers that rival and surpass that of a potential unseen as of yet Omega Plus Grade level Psyker would have individually. Such as the Transcendence. Humans who conquered the Virgo Supercluster and were planning on manipulating multiple timelines into some kind of cosmic tier merging event in their plans. Then there is the Downstreamers which they are way too powerful for the entire Warp and real space universe to try to even phase simply one of them. For the power of a Downstreamer wields is so mighty and great he or she can handle a thousand big bangs like a casual endeavor for them. The chaos gods cannot beat that even within their own home turf and that is something even a Omega Plus Psyker cannot do.
I don't think a Downstreamer can be described as a she or he anymore. They are so beyond anything. Warhammer 40k is to the Manifolds what Harry Potter is to Warhammer40k.
The Dark Lord's feats already surpassed all chaos gods, all while Doom Slayer killed the dark lord Even Khorne the most serious and currently the most powerful chaos god couldn't even took over Terra and Sol System TWICE
@@ohamatchhamsKhorne was being sabotaged by three other Chaos gods, and even Aeldar gods no doubt. Doom slayer is strong, but you really think he’d be ignored if he was able to take out Khorne? Like Tzench? They’d all be all over his ass to prevent destabilization of “the great game”.
@@ohamatchhamsAlso factor in it wasn’t their domain, and they were fighting the emperor himself at his prime. I mean, Horus could only injure him with the power of four gods backing him from a whole separate dimension, where their power is weaker in reality. Doom slayer on Khornes home terf would only strengthen him, as the more war and death there is, the stronger Khorne gets. Anyway, enough glazing lmao.
Thing is, Kratos can lose, or die. But so far nothing has been able to permanently keep him down. And i think much the same would happen if he were to come in contact with some champions of the 40k universe. He might lose, but he would not stay gone very long.
the viltrumite comparison is so fake, he could just waltz up to any home planet he encounters and go straight through the thing and that's the end of that. He doesn't need to enter any sort of effective range to do that, he can just zoom through a planet instantaneously and, again, there is no planet there anymore.
This is a cool fight. I think warframe would fit in the 40k setting. Warframes are so few in number they could never really destory the imperium but they are strong enough to survive. Although the lore of warframe is kinda all over the place with feats. I think it suffers from "the rule of cool" as much as 40k.
@@lemniscatelogos7917 It mainly depends on what legion their geneseed stems from, their arsenal, and their experience in combat. Veterans can be well over 400 years old for instance. A Dark Angels paladin from the Horus Heresy could take scores of Warframes.
@@thechadcruzaider7864 That note of context extends in both directions. as some frames have abilities that would need to be talked about like limbo, rhino, wisp, etc. sending things to other dimensions, stomping so hard time is messed up, or opening a pocket to the core of the sun. these are all things where there are so many variables where you need ground rules. for example, how many warframes are there? this question has two answers, one is the total number of warframes x2 because each frame has a prime version, OR its the wrong thing to look at because the limit isn't the warframes but the tenno pilots. So many questions!
Yeah, viltramites would body everything that isn't a psycher or necron. Nothing moves as fast, is as strong, or as durable. Not even big E. It's takes super advanced tech or magic for 40k to damage and the ground forces don't have that. The ships on the other hand have a chance, but the viltramites have natural ftl so they can easily dodge whatever the ships can throw at them.
So essentially, the viltrumites world-conquering tactics would prove untenable, as they would have to literally just go planet by planet destroying them with their sheer velocity of their in-atmosphere flight. They wouldn't even bother doing such a a thing, they would probably just see how fucked up extreme the 40k galaxy is and nope out to another galaxy, assuming there are other galaxies left, considering some of the Tyrannid theories.
@@averageeughenjoyer6429Not exactly. Viltrumites don’t really have to speed up in order to reach FTL. They are generally just that fast even if they actively slow down on habitable planets as to not light their atmosphere on fire. We see Nolan is capable of escaping the Solar System in no time once he leaves the earth’s atmosphere. Alan (even before any of his power-ups) is able to travel throughout the universe in no time. A lot of Invincible’s higher tier characters are in a *lot* faster than any ships in 40k. Technically including the necrons too since they haven’t quite demonstrated having tech capable of traversing galaxies worth of distance in a relatively small amount of time.
Big E might be as strong as a viltrumie given he punched the void dragon to the moon(although he never showed this strength again for some reason). But yeah comparing primarch physical strength to viltrumites is fucking laughable. A 100 meter titan, and 300 meter wide wall is nothing compared to moons and planets
In the Warhammer universe there's alot of human planets, and if viltrum takes over even 1 then they gain the ability to multiply rapidly and gain psykers, especially if they pick a planet that will be difficult for the Imperium to respond fast to, but the viltrumites will struggle if the chaos gods find them first
A general reminder that our modern day rifles are akin to 40k lasguns, as they have the same exact statistics. Which means any universe with relatively modern guns such as Gears would only need the much hyberbolic 100 dudes to kill a marine. However we have also seen a naked dude with a sharp stick kill a marine, they're far more vulnerable than people like to state. Edgerunners would fuck up Astartes. Unfortunately, Astartes just aren't very adaptive. In open combat a runner is gonna have a bad time, but they rarely play like that. And with the ability of deckers directly killing machine spirits and taking them over, well, it's gonna be a bad time for 40k. Now just on scale, 40k would win, but runners would give them a run for their money. Kratos would just get pieced up. Dude can die, and really enough guns would just tear him down. Viltrumites actually clear. The Imperium is slow, and a Viltrumite could tear down and throw the spaceships around before they could be brought to bear. And if one hits the golden throne hard enough, Terra blows up so y'know that sucks. Titanfall loses to scale, not marines. Helldivers probably clear. They would likely begin to exhibit some of the faith based powers of the Sisters, and with their mobility completely dance around the Imperium. As we see in the, I believe Ciaphas Cain books, many Marine squads lose to sacrificial tactics as they just don't understand them.
kratos clears, but likely would become an avatar of Khorn or become akin to a god, again, in this universe. doom guy definitely clears. likely would also have a religion around the “demon” marine or smth. orcs would love him.
Love to see this type of video. Here are some more suggestions: Halo Doctor Who Mass Effect Battlestar Galactica (2003) Star Wars Star Trek Stargate StarCraft The Expanse Fallout Dead Space Terminator Half Life Call of Duty Infinite Warfare Alien vs Predator (The ones set in space) Doom Homeworld Atomic Heart Wolfenstein Independence Day BattleTech
I don't think even Master Chief could take on a Marine, just on tech alone. The Forerunners are the only ones in Halo i could see being a possible match. But as for Mass Effect, i do wonder how a Krogan warlord might do in a 1v1, they're probably pretty equal to an average Marine.
@@goryanadazaghal1206 Not a fair comparison since ben 10 has major reality warping and invulnerability in alien x, and other super OP aliens like clockwork. Ben 10 by omniverse soloes all of 40k like its nothing.
Nolan could boom around the 40k universe leaving nukes in his wake faster than any entity but Big E and some chaos gods could react. 1 Nolan level Viltrumite could wipe Terra in less than 30 seconds booming around. A full strength Astartes legion is not a ''fair comparison''. A viltrumite is so far above even a custodes its not worth mentioning. Its like, an ant to a cruise ship. I'm a huge 40k nerd with thousands of $ into the hobby. Nolan tanks almost the entirety of 40k by himself. Nothing short of some serious hacks from actual gods could stop him.
I feel like guardsmen were a little over hyped here, firstly using tabletop measures isn't super consistent but besides that guardsmen are basically Helldivers just without stratagems so how it went from 150:1 to 450:1 I don't know
Helldivers have a lot of Gear but practically no training, literally a 10 minute tutorial then they’re sent out, compared to the Guard and even Gears who are trained to fight from whenever they’re old enough to hold a gun. I came to the conclusion of 1 diver to 3 Gears in a previous video; so I extrapolated that here in the comparisons against the Astartes.
I would not say they are helldivers without stratagems. Typically a helldiver is better trained, as they are a special forces branch to the Super Earth military. But the standard lasgun is much better than almost any standard weapon helldivers use.
Viltrumites fly sooooo much faster than light. To cross the Milky Way in days puts them so beyond the speed of light, and they don’t need a ship to do so. They just need to fly at that speed through a ship. What can they do to stop them from just light speed ramming their ships and taking out the imperium one by one lol. 50 is not many, but they move soooooooo fast. Speedblitz is real. Their combat speed is not that far off. Mark and Nolan both throw and punch Allen to the moon in a matter of seconds. Meaning their combat speed is ridiculously fast too.
Spoilers In the comics we see mark and and thragg fighting in the sun until Thragg burns to death, 40k plasma is as hot as our sun so I would say the imperium definitely has the weapons to fight viltrumites let alone other races, I would say it could go either way though if each side used proper tactics
A demon primarc with direct help from a Chaos god is Planet level. When angron was fighting the grey knights at The beacon , Khorne got off his skull throne and Channaled a strike with his Star killing blade through agron to Shatter the moon and made a entire star system go Insaine with a Murder curse and transforming them into Khorne worshipers. . With how Khorn's blade is called a Starkiller , the size of the moon or planet doesnt matter that much .
There are one set of marines that would have no problem with Viltrumites, Noise Marines, Viltrumites have a key weakness to loud noises and considering noise marines make a sound so loud that it can obliterate an astartes’ ears and eyes they would have no trouble wiping them out.
I still don't understand how people keep getting this wrong. It's not loud noises that affect a Viltrumite it is a very hyper specific frequency that even the Viltrumites themselves did not know about.
I like how something like the viltrumites and kratos are basically unkillable for the imperium and then there are the necrons that should be capable to kill anything that was in this video
@@nicojokelin5547 But Greek gods are very technical when it comes to death rules and again he can resurrect I wouldn’t be suprised if he crawled out of the afterlife again
@@Alby-td3ub the necrons have not killed a god they have shattered gods The star gods for example are still "alive" but shattered to pieces edit: they have killed the flayer
And where was those convenient powers in Horus Heresy? The emperor is the strongest psyker and even he isnt doing anything like this to solve his problems. So no, just because one guy got a luck roll on the random effects doesnt mean they can do those things casualy.
@@BrunofanofKyeah its not like the emperors powers were tied up on the astronomicon and the webway project until the very end of the heresy. Also for the time travel thing the conversation the emperor and malcador have playing regicide implies that they used precognition and fate manipulation to get the best possible result during the crusade and the heresy, but the chaos gods did the same thing. They even use the the same terminology used in dune talking about a "golden path" that will lead mankind to final victory.
The problem with 40k is everything is wayy to slow. The RUclipsr says nolan moves near the speed if light but says he crosses the milky way in a few days. The milky way is over 100000 light years wide. Nolan is moving far faster than light . There's noone in 40k that could even react to him let alone set up a phschic attack
@@BrunofanofKThe Chaos gods kept him in check to keep the “great game” stable. Tzench is the god of manipulation and fuckery, and enjoys letting things play out, but also lets things not go too far. The emperor would absolutely fuc up a V, and high level demons could too, in the warp. A V in the warp is fucked, primarily because the entire dimension is trying to consume their soul, and fuc with their mind. Tzench, the fucwit that he is, would probably allow them in safe just to turn half into flip flops while playing a lute, and then let his demons absolutely clap their cheeks after he’s done with his final sonata.
The Locust would have the best bet of doing some serious harm to Space Marines, them being underground would make the Space Marines probably hesitate before going underground. A lone chapter would take a lot of casualties because of the narrow spaces, I mean look at the Imperiums war against the squats during the Great Crusade, the Legions struggled against them due to the tight confines, which is why we saw Terminator armor created. COG is pretty screwed though. The thing with Titanfall is that their tech could hurt and kill Astartes, but the big thing that they probably got that a lot of other sci-fi series has over 40k is FTL. It takes weeks or even months to travel between star systems in 40k and it is not safe either. Meanwhile Helldivers, Titanfall, etc. they all can travel between star systems within a day or two or even within hours. And being able to be faster than your enemy and being where he is not is more important than actually being able to fight them. Cyberpunks universe is honestly not nearly fleshed out enough for us to know how well they would actually do. They have a lot of weapons and tech that the Imperium could reproduce and use but don't because of ai tech. They have some ridiculously smart weapons that 40k can't replicate expect from Humanities Golden Age of tech. Helldivers I dunno man, they got some pretty powerful infantry weapons, but they really depend heavy on fire support and while they have a lot of ships in their Navy, they are tiny and weak in comparison to even the smallest Imperial warships and I don't see them being able to contest the space domain for very long. Their best strat would be to just FTL travel to worlds that aren't nearly as well defended and torch it and move on before Imperium forces can respond. The only counter I could see the Space Marines having for Omni man, but even then its a toss up. Necrons probably could because their weapons are so esoteric that they probably could easily wound them.
I think omni man would destory a lot of 40k then hit a brick wall with the first really strong pysker shows up. Librarians, Eldar, necrons, void weapons I think would mess omni man up.
@@freed991 Probably. I could also seeing the Assassinorum MIGHT be able to think of something. The Imperial Navy would be the only force I could see possilbly taking him down conventionally just because of the sheer destructive power a single ship can unleash. I am also curious if a Virus bomb could do anything too?
The Dominion from Starcraft would not win, but I do think they could bloody the Imperiums nose and more significantly, I think afterwards you'd start to see Terran equipment showing up in Imperial use afterwards. "So you're telling me this tank is both a front line combat vehicle and a long range artillery piece and can switch between modes at a moments notice?" "This power armor is so cheap it's standard issue for their PDF?"
All the viltrumites have to do is destroy Terra and the Imperium is gone. Even Homelander could delete a significant number of space marines on his own, like a primarch with laser eyes and flight and greater toughness. Angron didn't hold up a warlords stomp, he held up a warhounds step and it almost killed him.
Young Wolf probably doesn't technically solo--most of the big feats under their belt canonically happen with a fireteam. (Yeah, technically some raids and raid encounters are soloable, like Nezarec and Atheon, but that doesn't strike me as reliable canon information.) Some of the more impressive solo feats they have are creatures more like Savathun and Calus. They put up a pretty good fight against the Witness but are forced to retreat and come back with a fireteam. But you tell the Guardians that the Emperor has a cool gun and that raid happens inside of a year. Oryx and Xivu Arath can solo quite a lot, Savathun probably finds a way to not have to. Witness solos entire civilizations without even slowing down. Rhulk probably only lost to the Guardian's fireteam because he humored the fight in the first place. Riven's death in her raid was basically suicide by cop, a part of a longer con that ensured her children lived on in the fact of the extinction of her species. And the Vex are perhaps the most terrifying; a random Vex Goblin once simulated 227 perfect copies of the research team studying it, complete with interior experience as best as any of said researchers could tell. They sort of have something adjacent to time travel (it's pretty vague how it works; it's been noted in-universe that if it were truly an unlimited power of theirs, they'd have already won). Turns out the creator-gods, the Gardener and Winnower, simulate universes through a big game of Conway's Game of Life (no, really, that's the lore, see Unveiling). The Vex were the pattern that asserted itself over every single one of those countless universes, much to the vexation of the Gardener ("vexed" is the actual word choice, which is a big reason we know that). The Gardener and Winnower got into a fistfight over this, and they accidentally made a version of the universe they could interfere in to some extent, which is the current one. As far as we can tell, the only reason the Vex haven't won yet is that they can't simulate paracausal effects--and they've come very, very close a few times. By the way, did I mention they just found a crazy new paracausal artifact we don't know what it does a few weeks ago? Or that their simulation network includes the very Garden that that all went down in? The Vex are the final boss of Destiny. But also, can a microbial soup really "solo" anything? The definition of the word is a bigger hindrance to them than the actual forces arrayed against them.
Sorry, but no. V absolutely eviscerates any non-psyker marine. He's calced at trans-sonic movement speeds (movement, not ""reaction"" or ""combat"") with a sandevistan, meaning he outspeeds most marines by a factor of 10. doesn't matter the toughness of your armor because V's mantis blades with go through the joints and weak points.
Kratos and the Viltumites taking the wins kinda doesn't surprise me. Viltrumites destroying planets by flying through them at top speed ... yeah, 50 guys that can do that, more than enough to take on the imperium.
I wanna see some dudes with unlimited potential like the Prototype, or Starkiller throwing around capital ships, also mechsuits like EVA units or ARMORED Cores would fare incredibly well in the setting
I disagree, Battle Beast wasn't a planet buster and he was on pair with Thragg (the strongest Viltrumite in his time), a Primarch could pretty much defend himself against viltrumites, I just don't know how much can he handle before getting ABSOLUTELY COOKED.
I mean the characters in 40K can't defeat 40K. I think the biggest answer as to why is because unkillable daemons exist that just keep respawning until you're down, and also play on your fears and desires to corrupt you to their own cause. Don't underestimate the power of temptation toward anyone who enters the 40K universe.
I have an Idea, no idea if its been done before. But, what about Transformers? The first issue that needs to be addressed is "Which Transformers?" There's a lot, and different continuities treat power scaling differently. Lets start with Unicron and Primus I guess, pretty simple right? The two gods of the Transformers universe, the size of planets, and Unicron is capable of eating other planets. So marvel comics or Cybertron? Or IDW? Or Prime? The Bayverse? Unfortunately I don't know enough about all of these specific timelines, continuities, reboots etc. to get into detail about all of them, And the toys. Oh god the toys. if the newest "Nemesis" figure is to be taken into account, exactly how powerful is she? And the Omega Sentinels? Oh god. I just remembered Beast Wars.
The Mechanoids from Rimworld would probably thrive on 40k, not only because they can create more Mechanoids without consuming resources but because they are capable of nearly adapting to EVERYTHING, all it takes are a few Bolter rounds to the face before the Mechanoid adapts to effectively resist Bolter fire, with the same applying for Lasguns, Plasma, EMPs, and MAYBE Gauss
Noise marines would swat Viltrumites out of the air like Nats. They literally use weapons that are the Viltrumite's exact weakness and something tells me the Imperium would figure that out too.
If they figure out what frequency to use against them maybe but what other weapons do they have that could compare to a beam that can shoot through anything forever
1st they need to catch them, 2nd viltrumites can fly in space, they don't need metal shit to travel, put 2 or 3 of them on a planet all industries defenses structures are flatten. Their combat speed is insane and their travel speed is even scarier.
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What about H.P. Lovecrafts gods?
I would like to see a 40K Custodian fight other things like this video
Doom slayer vs 40k
Darth vader vs 40k
Archi Sonic vs 40k
The Grey Knights would love to have Doomguy on their Crusade.
you mean another they have already one how is constantly in the warp and the feets the boltgun marine hase done are around the same scale so it would be number 3
Doom Slayer: *enters the warp*
Some random navigator centuries later: the warp is empty 😶
@@petertomanovich6652nope it wouldn’t be empty he didn’t empty hell either but at the very least they wouldn’t see any creatures from the warp for as long as he’s in their (I know it was a joke)
However I don’t think that Doomguy would get along with the Grey Knights since he wouldn’t like the fact that they usually murder innocent guardsmen and imperium civilians at all.
@@petertomanovich6652stop meat riding bro, Hell in warhammer 40k is not made to be a joke like in Doom universe.
Imagine the Tyranids got a little taste of kryptonian DNA. There goes the universe.
Literal Superbug 💀
Well, it’s a good thing. They’re not capable of killing any kryptonian ever these are guys who can toss planets around they’re not getting beaten by a bug. For God sakes there is literally a real estate agent in Dragon Ball Z that would casually species wipe their entire species because they were a problem for his investment portfolio. I’m not joking by the way that’s actually what Frieza is.
@@charlottewalnut3118who said they had to kill them?
@@JohnJohn-r4l That is more horrifying, someone like Frieza enslaving Tyranids is something that I want to see now.
@@charlottewalnut3118if something such as possibly the chaos gods combined could make Superman bleed which is possible through combined strength the Tyranids could absorb a single puddle and poof we’re fucked
If Kratos showed up in 40K the Imperium's best option would be to make sure all their enemies piss him off and just stay back to watch the show.
Just kill him it ain't super hard with what the imperium have, and then he'll just fkn full clear the entire warp for you.
only problem is if kratos finds out that they manipulated him he would go after them as well
@@christopherjohnson7964Kratos will be corrupted by Khorne.
People like to underestimate the level of bullshit in 40k, huh. No, the imperium's best option would be sending a custodes shield host. That would put him down. Quite easily, in fact. Or just a named ultramarine. Such as i, Cato Sicarius.
20 space marines with storm bolsters and 9 times out of 10 they get destroyed
" To take a town, send a legionary; to take a city, send a squad; to take a world, send a company; to take a culture, send a chapter". Quoted from "Know no Fear".
Which I call bullshit on. One hundred Marines couldn't take modern day earth. I don't care how strong your made up NOTplastic armour is, you are not tanking a125mm APFSDS shot.
„To take whatever the fuck you want, send Kratos“
@@D4N1L0_facts
@@D4N1L0_to take the multiverse and Omniverse send the duh duh duh…
THE SCARLET KING
@@Alby-td3ub Meh..... Malice or the Dark King would be more funny! Oh and i cast onthological gun out of the Lions secret dark age of technology weapon stash given to him from Big E
Okay, so for the COG, I'd actually see them being assimilated into a guard regiment since they are a human civilization. They'd basically only have one choice, convert to the worship of the Emperor and use your gears as Guardsmen for the Imperium, or be annihilated. Honestly the COG might actually take a bit less convincing if the Imperium deals with the Locust problem for them. They'd probably fight the Imperium at first but since it'd be ground battles mostly, the COG would likely surrender and be forced to join the Imperium.
Helldivers probably would try to be assimilated into the imperium as well
Locust won’t even be a problem for the imperium.
To be fair, it'd depend on how hostile the COG really is to the imperium- The ecclesiarchy has a missionary service, and that planet of humanity is clearly beset by Xenos
The humans there have never known the light of the emperor- So their not Heretics. Their Pagans. And the Ecclisarchy cares enough about their souls to send assistance.
Now the end result is dragging COG into the imperium, but I can only imagine COG would be overjoyed to have assistance, especially human assistance. At least at first.
COG regiments would just become the 541st Seran Heavy Infantry etc. They'd fit ok with their chainswords and Catachan physiques.
@@bobbinsgaming3028 I know right? Not only that, some COG stuff would be of great interest to the Mechanicus, such as the Hammer of Dawn.
Doomslayer would most likely be like: "Alright, I'll deal with the Warp and the chaos gods, and the tyranids and the dark eldar. I'll even slap the orks onto the pile for fun."
Then he would turn around to the Imperium, raise his finger at them and be like: "But YOU better not start anything or there will be hell to pay."
Space marines can also play basketball pretty well don't forget
NBA 2k expansion when?
For the emperor, we ball
Oryx the taken King has a basketball court in his throne world, try again
Blood bowl:NBA expansion when?
Salamanders have the best team
one of the reasons why i dislike 40k comparisons is because in all of our fandoms, many of them are grounded in some sort of realistic scale. the idea that 40k wins because its 40k, because of it's scale is stupid. ofc its going to win its set in a galaxy wide setting.
the arguement is always the same, can they beat the space marines, oh they can? how about the orcs and eldar? oh they can? how about the chaos, and it goes on and on until we reach the necrons and c'tan. then by default 40k wins again. anything that can absolutely crush 40k's universe wholesale is deemed controversial.
a viltrumite is not on par with the level of an custodes, we just saw a viltrumite go through an entire planet, we seen mark throw a fucking moon and somehow its on par with a custodes. throw a custodes into the sun see if they survive. never mind custodes, even our golden boy cant throw a moon or fly through a planet or survive being inside the sun.
the universe of invincible, its heavy hitters, the viltrum empire, battle beast, alien, mark, his dad, his brother and daughter. would be able to crush the all of chapters and legions of the space marine excuding the emperor. it would take some time but they probably can. but can they survive chaos and its many influences probably not. we've seen the viltrum empire crumble because of a plague so nurgle alone would wipe them out.
i think helldivers dont get enough credit, since every single death a player plays is considered cannon, humanity is apparently in the trilliions at this point all in 1 planet. but really with how often hell divers call in air supports like 500kg bombs and napalm, i think they could give 40k a run for its money. its not going to win obviously but that universe isnt going down without a fight.
Xeelee Sequence races would run the 40k universe.
Anyone in DC could wipe out the galaxy of 40k. As would Goku.
Also, Stellaris is way more OP than 40k
@@user-je3sk8cj6gYou miss spelt giga structural engineering.
@@user-je3sk8cj6gpretty sure stellaris has a throw away army tech that's actually just space marines.
The Viltrum Empire would crush the Imperium of Man effortlessly. Nothing in the 40k universe could harm them.
They would need earplugs though.
Kirby from the kirby games solos all of 40K.
@@SpeedyBoiOfficial Does Kirby solo Food Wars? :P
@@SpeedyBoiOfficialThat's exaggeration, he can't solo rule 34.
@@corryjamieson3909I’ve seen solo Kirby.
the chaos gods who scale to outerversal say hi
hell the necrons could just throw him in a box and forget he ever existed since their technology scales up to the 20th dimension if not to outerversal aswell
Just remember a wall of guardsmen with flashlights can kill anything in the universe of Warhammer 40K
Not the Commissar behind them having a private aim the meltagun emplacement at their backs
Those flashlights are rapid fire sun beams with near infinite ammo and zero maintenance required.
@@DanielMontgomery-l2z As long as they say their prayers and thank the machine spirit for its hard work in these troubling times.
@@Become-Eggplant the emperor protects, even from plot armor
@@ChrisScott-g1p one caveat is the humble las gun can interact with almost all forms of energy and matter. This means even the most dense materials like Adamantium, high carbon steel, titanium, or other esoteric materials, all have their atomic bonds broken by the mass produced las gun.
Shields of any sort, magnetic, gravetic, atomic force, etc are all disrupted by the intense pinpoint instability caused by the LARGE amount of energy deposited by the man portable weapon system.
Personally I imagine V going up to tech priest and going “CHROME ME UP!” We then cut to a techpriest party where they are chanting “ MORE CYBERNETICS” like humans going “Chug chug chug” as v is enhanced with multiple new cybernetics.
Hell I love to imagine a tech priest takes inspiration from V’s chrome and uses it on guardsmen, commissars and inquisititors. Imagine a commissar with mantis chainsaw blades, guardsmen with a blood pump, inquisitors with the arm cannon.
V would kinda be like an angel of the machine god to them.
@@AlternetRedSkysa full borg v would be the near perfect integration of flesh and steel. Or chrome
@@casematecardinal both flesh and machine operating in harmony.
V would immediately be executed as a heretic and his chrome locked away from laypeople or destroyed as perversion of the true flesh and reeking of abominable intelligence.
16:08 Khorne starts hearing Rage of Sparta getting louder and louder "I left you the last because you reminded me of what I used to be without discipline"
I'm not saying Titanfall would win, i just think you're underrating titans, along with specters, and reapers. I think a titan is probably halfway between a dreadnought and a terminator.
Also, your example of titans being bad at multiple target engagement is invalid because that was a titan surrounded on all sides by titans. An ultramarine surrounded on all sides by traitor ultra Marines would fare equally poorly.
Off the top of my head i don't know how the scale of production of the two franchises add up, but the imc and militia are both massive AND spaceborn AND have more prolific heavy weapons, so they'd definitely fare much, much better than gears or helldivers.
I was surprised by how he said Titans are much slower on ground on average compared to a space marine. Like bro, the average Titan is booster dancing across the battlefield and could punch or kick an Astartes quite a distance due to their size and mass, warp shenanigans would be rough but a squad of 10 Titans would certainly fare decently against a larger force of Astartes, even just two Legions could cut them up while protecting themselves and their backline sufficiently and a Ronin teleporting behind a squad of Astartes to cleave them in two would be lethal
a 40k Titan steps on a titanfall titan....
@@Wikid0Majik ok? Did you not read my comment? I never said Titanfall would win. Also, as much as it seems like the imperium is logistically infinite, they do NOT have infinite titans, and their titans are NOT invulnerable to capitol ship grade weapons.
Being how we are talking of other IPs, your comment reads as tho you are talking of TF Titans, ME Reapers, and specters ( you meant Eldar?) could be many things...
@@Wikid0Majik so you still didn't read my comments
Lore-Accurate Adam Smasher could probably take down a Dreadnought, he DID survive a nuke.
exactly lore accurate V bodies big E
@@joekrafft7125 Sounds like cap
@@joekrafft7125That's a cap. The big E can and will stop time, plus he’s quick and intelligent. Do not bring your heresy towards Big E or the Omnissiah.
@@Bloodangel921yeah its cap
But adam smasher or v legit body anything below a custodian with like...zero diff
Idc how much a black templar prays when 2 30gram slugs moving in excess of of mach 5 nail his ass before he or his company can draw their weapon
I read that as Adam Sandler
Meanwhile Azathoth: "Huh, that was a funny dream."
and Yog-Sothoth: "Damnit dude... Its only been 14 billion years. Your supposed to get at least 8-10 trillion years of sleep per night.... Besides we were just getting to the good part of the dream."
0:01 FOR THE EMPEROR!
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!@Ultramarine-j1f
So how badly would Dante style on the Chaos Gods?
underrated
I’d say very.
Dante and Dante are gonna be a wild combo
Smokin' Sexy Style!
@@killfang9659 Are we talking about Commander Dante or Dante from the Devil May Cry series?
Man the helldivers are way underrated here, it takes like a month to get anywhere for 40k so the helldivers could go to agri worlds and one by one turn them into black holes, then running away before the fleets get there. Doing this they could just starve out the imperium until it collapses.
One by one? That's cute. Sorry, I don't know if you're aware, but at the scale the Imperium of man is on, you would maybe starve a few dozen star systems in a single sector of civilized space out of literal hundreds of thousands of such sectors spread across half of the Milky way galaxy. No matter how sneaky you are, you would be forced to engage the Imperial Navy at SOME point simply due to the nature of the unknowable size of the Navy, and at the rate that the Imperium is constantly expanding and contracting, such tactics would not prove helpful in the long run when you are also at the same time competing with the various Xenos and Chaos factions which would be just as quick to chase the Helldiver's navy into the void as any Imperial Navy strike force sent in to investigate the loss of agriworlds.
In short, the Helldiver's best bet is to capitulate to the Imperium. Even with the vast variables in warp travel, one or two Imperial ships will eventually get lucky and jump out of the warp far earlier than anticipated, and this happening over and over again over the course of literal decades. Not to mention the warp storms and anomalies which regularly pop up at random across the galaxy, which the Helldiver's would have no means of understanding would prove catastrophic over any period of time navigating the void in 40k, considering your proposed tactic of "just do what the Dark Eldar do".
Never underestimate the Imperium's capacity to take staggering loss after loss after loss and come back swinging with unending hatred far harder and from a different direction than you expected.
The thing is with helldivers.. they are fast sure.. but it would be like a fly trying to kill a elephant. In space the imperiums fleet is slower but hits hard and in sheer numbers the small ships of the divers will not be able to stay long enough to support the helldivers in ground battle..
Helldivers drop pod in to a hive world.. they then run out of supplies and have no air cover. Their shop either left or got destroyed. They have speed and thats it. They would be better off joining the imperium. Unless there is some Epic fleet with large destroyers that could survive space warfare. All we have seen mostly is the small strike cruisers used to drop hell divers off. With out air support and orbital support helldivers are screwed.
Agree, the Helldivers would definitly be a pain in the Ass for the imperium simply because they more or less work exactly the same as the guard. Got the problem solved after we tossed 10.000 Guardsmen/Helldivers at it? No? Ok then send 100.000 more and if that does not work make it a million.
Yes in the end the imperium would very likely be able to uphold this wall of Flesh way longer than the divers and claim the victory, but that does not mean that the helldivers would be no threat. The ability of the super destroyers to safely jump in and out of sytems within seconds would make it hard for the Navy to really get rid of them. Especially because the Warp could claim entire fleets of the imperium without a big issue. And even if a fleet does not get destroyed it could be lost for millenias simply because time works diffrent within the warp.
@@freed991 One more thing, most people haven't seen the rest of super earth's fleet. These mention of cruisers and battleships as well as the destroyers used for the helldivers.
A Diver's average lifetime in a combat zone is 18 minutes. I really don't think super earth could manage to destroy so mamy worlds without getting bodied by the guardsmen, let alone a space marine (singular btw)
Can't lie, dude did cyberpunk dirty. In Warhammer 40k terms I genuinely think the notable characters of cyberpunk 2020 & 2077 are on the same level of the Officio Assassinorum (except the Calexus temple) and some Mechanicum units. I think most people forget that both have taken on Astartes chapters and have actually put up a pretty good fight. Also I don't think people actually understand how OP CP2020 can get either.
yeah dude did not look outside the games, almost all soldiers have some form of cybernetic enhancement, they have more suits of power armor (ACPA) then all the space marines put together, maybe even all sisters of battle
that isnt even covering all the borgs, that would outnumber the 1 million astartes, and are all around peak human and potentialy stronger and faster
their weapons are aso better then standart bolters for borg and ACPA weapons
Seriously he must’ve only only ever played the game, and maybe seen the anime; doesn’t know the full lore.
They’ve never heard of things like the IEC Dragoon or the Arasaka DaiOni. They need to go back and watch the scene of David first entering the cyber skeleton. Tell me that grav tech couldn’t mince a squad of marines before tiring.
Also a dark age ship was able to hack space marine armor, so a net runner might be able to.
Space marines are fast, but things like the apogee sandi cut time to 1/10th speed. Lore has augmented humans seeing Astartes as a blur, very similar to a low grade sandi to a high end one. At the very least a legend like smasher, David, or V could reasonably go 1v1 with a Marine and I wouldn’t know who to put my money on.
@@joaosturza you make a good point with APCA/borg weapon. Insane calibers are common in the universe, with people having the cyber limbs to wield them.
@@Maxsmack I remember seeing a short that said cyberpunk has some of the best railgun tech too. bc of how easy some of the rail guns can shoot right thru solid objects.
@@Snow-fn9bk ah yeah, I think I've seen some by Marcus Vance.
A lot of heroes would do well against anything from 40k but there aren't many fictional nations that would do well against the Imperium.
That’s becours people compare it to sci-fi universes, when 40k is magic…
Like a guardsman can use a bolster to kill a spcemarine, but there warp färbenden makes spacemaeines so good. There literally the main character.
But compared to the average high high fantasy???
Or god forbid the cultivators
The self invert main characters wuld tech them a hole new definition of plotsrmor
But yeah that’s why most comprising either get slapped by 40k or slap
Halo has a few, Xeylee obviously has all of them, and DC and Marvel have quite a few. I disagree that the Viltumites body the Imperium, and the 3 Body problem also has untold civilizations that body the Imperium.
@@YEARCITY the 3 Body Problem might even take down Chaos
Forerunners from Halo would win
Omni man would fall to chaos so fast
Not so much of a fall and more like a headfirst dive
Khorne would definitely take an interest in Nolan and the Viltrumites
@@chriscortez2036exactly what I was thinking
Not really, but it would be a spoiler to say more.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Facts, anybody who read invincible or heard what happens knows nolan is pretty safe, and that he is also nowhere near the strongest character in his verse.
Guardsmen: "WHERE DID ALL THESE SKY LIGHTS CAME FROM!?"
D Officer: "permission for unlimited budget GRANTED!"
Helldivers easily take a few planets at least 30 but after that not so much but that would be horrifying as a guards man seeing thousands millions maybe even billions of lazers and nukes with napalms and the rest scorch a planet
@Alby-td3ub I would argue that making a planet inhospitable to all life isn't taking a planet. but hey I'm open to changing my views.
@@Alby-td3ub Right until helldivers get met with one trillion lasgans firing upon their ships
Viltrumites aren't immune to pathogens but just extremely resistant (their race got almost wiped out by one after all) so tbh i think the imperium could take them down using bio-weapons or in the worse case scenario, the life eater virus.
Maybe phosphex would work too (its basically a semi-sentient phosphore weapon on giga-steroids)
They are highly vulnerable to ultasound. Any noise marine could kill all 50 of them.
@@dualityomk9854no they are vulnerable to a certain frequency and only that specific frequency not anything that's just loud
I can imagine Kratos popping into the great crusade era and giving Angry Ron an honerable death... then fighting off the Empreror!
the emperor would fry kratos' brain before he even knew the emperor was close, the emperor scales to outerversal, kratos is only multiversal
big e would look at kratos like kindred
@@sophiehatter3111Nah Kratos gonna take his cheeks
@@charlottewalnut3118well he’s Greek so yep
@@charlottewalnut3118 nah. You don't know enough about 40k lmao
13:11 Objection! I believe that psykers could still defeat the viltrumites. While you did mention brute strength and magical destruction, you forgot to talk about another aspect of psykers - manipulation. While not as widespread as their smiting counterparts, manipulation specialists are employed by the Ravenguard, the Inquisition and other branches of the Imperium. So, while a force lightning or warp flame could not damage the viltrumites, a skilled psyker could have a serious shot at posessing one and turning him against his xenos scum allies.
Yeah lol no besides just the obscene speed they have ie able to legit flick a rock the moment they feel them trying it and turning their body to mush viltrimites bodies are made of smart atoms and have different biology as well as just infinite faster minds. In general trying to do it will just give them a headache unless its like an alpha + psyker.
You have no idea how much it warms my heart to hear 'Kratos Solos'. GOW 2018 and Raganrok did a lot to make me adore this character.
there is a good chance that some random tribal from Rimworld would just oneshot a spacemarine with a bow that barely qualifies and that's even before getting into the archeotech artifacts and psycasting
Then he gets mad that he hasn't eaten yet and storms off from the fight while his heavily armored friend keeps fighting. This heavily armored friend dies in a single shot... By a stray lasgun.
I definitely think that some of the weirder playthroughs of Rimworld could put up a decent fight. With a few ranking rather high.
Francis John is a good example when a player can break the game into easy mode. I still remember when he led a 5 man crusade of magic murder munchkins or when he took over a combat tile and fought wave after wave of enemies turning their weapons into slag and creating tailcaps out of their flesh.
Your pawn has fallen to chaos , cause:ate without table
@@sthsth2438that’s something that would happen
The Imperium of Man vs The Borg would be a brutal match up I think.
assimilation doesnt work to get the tech because the crew doesnt know how the ship works either 😂
If any of the tech-priests come to the conclusion that the borg queen is the omnissiah...I mean, she could show up like their golden emperor, and if the adeptus mechanicus splits from the imperium, it's jover.
@@geoffreysherman609 And even if the average person doesn't know how the tech works, as @joaosturza said, Borg can directly assimilate tech. A cube hits a hiveworld and the Imperium is the big fucked.
I doubt a drone could take a marine, or even some of the specialist guard units in a fight. But the Borg overall would adapt very quickly to the Imperium's tactics and tech. And their own tech has some advantages, since both phaser and disruptor tech work *better* against dense and heavy armor rather than worse.
And transwarp and warp means no need to traverse the...uhh, warp. They'd end up overwhelming Imperium forces with sheer numbers and technological superiority, as they'd have no issues reverse engineering and upgrading tech they find.
@@Kirheanso does this mean Star Trek would unironically survive longer in a battle against 40K than most _because_ of their non lethal weaponry?
@azureheart2846 yeah, probably. Borg are way less interested in killing than in assimilating.
All I need to answer this question is simple: a single Xeelee from The Xeelee Sequence.
IDK, I think the Xeelee are roughly a War in Heaven tier species meaning that there are 40K cultures like the Necrontyr or Old Ones who could have fought them, especially if it's just a single Xeelee
But a Photino Bird from Xeelee Sequence would have ended the entire 40K universe without even noticing
@@libertylemonz7145 To quote the President of the Daily Bugle: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You serious?
Jokes and quotes aside, I REALLY wouldn't call the mascots of the entire Xeelee Sequence series (which in turn is literally the namesake of the meme 'Xeeleestomp') 'merely War in Heaven tier'. These cretins godstomped the Transcendance (basically Humanity in the far, Far, FAR future that had the power to merge all possible timelines of Humanity into a single meta-reality, which is far more insane than it looks and sounds) back to the literal stone age in the timespan of a single day while brutally losing a war against the Photino Birds that was so one-sided that not only did some of the Photino Birds SIMPLY NOT REALIZE that they were butchering Xeelee, but it just makes the War in Heaven look like a well-accustomed tea party in comparison.
Oh, and that thing you said about how the Old Ones and Necrontyr could've fought a single Xeelee? The ICoG (a government of Humanity which made all of the combined and concentrated Grimdark from all of 40K look simply pathetic all by itself, used rifles which fired the Big Bang as its equivalent to a bolter and sported fighter spacecraft that individually possessed more firepower than the entirety of Segmentum Solar COMBINED) tried that in a twenty thousand year war, and that war didn't end in the ICoG's annihilation solely because that single Xeelee they were attacking got sick of humanity's garbage and simply left the Milky Way to find a way to actually have a chance against the Photino Birds, who can just toss entire galaxies at people who actually manage to irritate them.
Want another idea of just how far the Xeelee Sequence as a whole is above 40K? The Squeem (the WEAKEST species in the Xeelee Sequence) could curbstomp War in Heaven Necrons, while the Silver Ghosts (the SECOND WEAKEST species) might as well steamroll the entirety of 40K, and they were both obliterated by the aforementioned ICoG.
@@discountplaguedoctor88 I need to see this now this shit getting out of hand
@@libertylemonz7145 "I think a single bacteria could kill the Forerunners" type shit
@@discountplaguedoctor88 Jerk off before posting, not during
A seasoned hell diver definitely could kill an astartes. We have to remember that in lore, chaos space marines get dropped by guardsman as well as tau, orks etc. being capable of killing space marines. Each of those factions on average are vastly inferior to space marines and yet they manage. Not every space marine is going to be a highly trained chapter master like Sigusmund or Dante. It's why during the great crusade legions often took heavy losses in their campaigns
You’re underrating space marines, every space marine is a veritable Demi god to a regular human, every space marine is highly trained, and extremely skilled, they are not fodder and in no circumstances could a diver take out an unnamed marine. A diver is on deathkorps of kreig level or commissar level at best.
Are you also forgetting that 40k weapons like the Lazgun are considerably more deadly than the standard fare of what the Helldivers use? That's why Chaos Marines can die to Guardsmen.
@@CerberusMalt I'm very doubtful a lazgun is more deadly the armament the hell divers wield. A lazgun usually only kills space marines through concentrated fire or targeting weak points in armor, such as the space marine eyes visor. The helldiver's are deployed with a much wider array of equipment, Autocannons and the Eruotor of capable of penetrating literal drop ships, rocket pods, sentry turrets of various armaments, nuclear bombs and much more are apart of a standard Hell Diver equipment. A Lazgun is NOT more effective than all of those weapons. Meanwhile hell divers equipment does just fine at cracking open the Heavy armor of Automaton devestators, Hulks, Bike Titans, chargers and more. A space marine is tough but a hell diver has more heavy fire power at their deployment than your average guardsman. A lazgun is known to blow off a limb at full power. Modern rifles can do the very same thing. People greatly overestimate the strength and scale of 40k. Guardsman aren't good because of their equipment, they are good due to their sheer numbers and religious zealotry save for the more elite units like Tempestus scions, Solar Auxilla, and Lucifer Blacks.
As for armor, a Hell Diver is definitely more durable than your standard guardsman. They can survive getting rammed over by Chargers, giant armored insectoids bigger than small buildings. Hell Divers armor can hold up against rockets, laser fire, acide before failing. They definitely have more super human resilience than most guardsman we see. That being said a space marine definitely is still tougher overall in the armor department.
True, but the imperium would still win
@@jianji-q8s Sure if the imperium actually had a competent head maybe. But considering lesser empires like the Tau are still alive, despite it being stated that the Imperium is larger and more powerful, I don't see every faction in the Imperium sorting out all of their problems to effectively deal with Super Earth. This isn't the organized Imperium lead by the God Emperor and his primarchs. The modern Imperium is an ineffective bureaucratic nightmare that is woefully incompetent at best and down right dysfunctional at worst. Anarchy and planetary rebellion is not uncommon in the 40k era of Warhammer. Unless super Earth manages to somehow immediately become a threat larger than the tyranids, necrons, orcs, chaos, etc. the Imperium isn't getting rid of them.
I think cyberpunk was incredibly downplayed here. The stats of many of Cyberpunk’s tech include army piercing and explosive and rail gun technology. And many of the augmented are physically equal to Space Marines, with automatic aiming
Also unlike space marines they use combined arms warfare.
@@mryellow6918 Brother who told you space marines dont use combined arms?
@@SlothIn3Dthe space marines did. they basically never do combined arms unless they fight with the guard. hell the imperium basically only does ww1 tactics. it’s why the tau dog on them in standard battles
@@joekrafft7125 bro that's just incorrect 😂😂😂
To be fair he also discounted stuff like Helldivers tanking the equivalent of a las cannon and surviving. All because the bugs can kill you as if they aren't basically nids and unlike the guard you have very little room to spot and take them out.
I made this in 16 hours pulling an all nighter. Hope it doesn’t show.
Buster Out.
Do the saiyan empire minus of goku, vegeta, and broly
@@samuraibear5102 Raditz would breathe on an entire chapter and they would die, Nappa would lift two fingers and wipe out entire fleets
The guardians just got giga buffed cause they killed the witness making them super strong like able to kill chaos gods strong or big E strong
ok, I will also throw my hat in the ring:
Can BIONICLE SURVIVE in 40k? the short and most reductive answer is no, but lets break down why and what is brought to the table:
so the issue with Bionicle's setting first and formost ironically is that the numbers brought are small. Large scale numbers for the setting only reach the thousands which is already a problem.
secondly there aren't many Vehicles, so any and all strong points would be on the ground with man on man fights, and with Naval Battles their home is also their battle ship (and also god), albeit Mata Nui is quite literally a God Robot that can manipulate planets so I can't find it hard to believe it would be of a higher class then your standard eldar craftworld if he even activates at all
the actors, pros and cons:
Toa: the main heroes of the bionicle universe, they are biologically Cyborgs who can essentially live up to 10 thousand years (at least) like most of the inhabitants of the setting. while Bonkle is wonky with time scaling we don't really have a reference other then the face value of this statement. they basically use their own form of space magic in the form of elemental powers, which in the way they control them (creating, controlling and with some exceptions ABSORBING their elements) puts them closer on level to control with Avatar's benders then your average space wizard with larger feats like Gali Nuva being able to unleash one off powerful blasts that can flood entire islands with their power, however they still use their weapons as a focus for more efficient channeling, so its a weird hybrid. more importantly, Elements come in various flavors: Fire, Ice, Stone, Earth, Water, Air and the non-primary elements Plasma, The Green (plant life), Gravity, Magnetism, Psionics, Light, Shadow (special conditions needed for this), Sonics, Lightning, and Iron. Toa stand about 6-7 feet tall, have general mastery of their weapons and powers if given enough time to train (most dont), can lift about a ton without enhancements.
Positives: Elemental powers depending on the Element of the Toa could be strong enough to combat small groups of Astartes if wielded by a VETERAN Toa, things like Iron, Plasma, and Magnetism can make them look like Tin cans to crush or melt with ease
Kanohi Mask powers can also give a nice edge too on top of combat skills and powers
Thousands of years of experience CAN give plenty of potential
Cyborg bodies being about 85% mechanical means that their survivability is pretty high too, and can fix themselves too if they lose a limb
Negatives:
the Kanohi masks are their biggest weakness as well. clean sniper shots to anything that can knock off a mask with enough force or god forbid break it leave the Toa at half strength, and unable to use elemental powers
Toa do not have rivival hacks, even if we cherry picked the strongest of the non legendary masks there isn't anything that can stave off death itself, and a lot of gear hypothesized would have to be cherry picked to compete
The Toa Code prevents killing, which would also have to be ignored in times of war like this
(I can make the list for the others later)
Please finish this, I’m very interested
Take your time on this, but I'm leaving a reply so I get notified when you add more, this is actually a pretty interesting analysis
Fun fact: due to a bionicle easter egg in the 2022 galaxy explorer, bionicle exists whithin the world of lego space, which means you could count in the different lego space factions in this as well
Also if you consider the lego spacemen being between the size of either a normal human or a space marine(if you compare the physical model sizes) the toa are about the size of imperial knights
This is beautiful, I hope to see how this evolves
bro is meth'd out if he puts a viltrumite on the same level a custodes
He literally said primark not custode
Here is an idea that can be a challenge too. I know people like to mock Star Wars when put up against 40k, but here is the challenge:
You are in charge of a Star Wars faction of your choosing and you must lead them to winning scenario in 40K or as close to it as possible. Take in account the advantages that Star Wars has such as hyperspace, and see how you would command them to victory, if you can.
Eternal Empire from TOR would be my faction to run with. I'd take my time, consolidate control over the Iokath dyson sphere, and then simply overwhelm 40k with a fleet of literally trillions of ships.
Seriously, some of the stuff in TOR breaks Star Wars because of how much closer it is to 40k in terms of power lol.
@@ASNS117Zero Just use peak Rakatan Empire, Every single being in the empire was a powerful force users around the equivalent to a beta level psyker in 40k without the disadvantages, their technology could repair itself from nothing and was conscious, they could glass a planet with a single ship and had a space station that could produce matter from pure energy at progressively increasing rate, Star forge would only ramp up it's power and production over time and a group of Rakatan warriors with forcesabers could easily take on a equivalent number of space marines from any space marine chapter. They literally defeated the celestials and stomped every other civilization including the ANCIENT sith at their full power. They were so powerful it's not even funny
Hyperspace routes have to be established first. Without it, you won't get that ftl travel. So you'd be in trouble in the warhammer galaxy. Warhammer spaceships are larger and have better firepower. I can't see you lasting too long in the Warhammer verse.
@louisnall3102 well if we allow hyperspace routes for the warhammer galaxy, then the imperium wouldn't stand a chance. Because the imperium is slow and clunky to react. Star wars universe could repeatedly do hit and run attacks.
@louisnall3102 Establishing new hyperspace routes shouldn't be difficult for the CIS either as they can send hundreds of drones into hyperspace in different directions and the survivors would establish the new routes. They can create routes all around the 40k galaxy and out maneuver most enemies.
5:15 - It's an understatement to say they are resistant to pathogens, the Astartes have several organs implanted in them devoted to the task. And then there's Mortarion...
They can breathe in 5% oxygen levels. As well as breathing water and volcanic ash. Pretty much as long as there is a small amount of air he can breathe just fine. That outside of his suit as well.
I HEAVEALY DISAGREE with Helldivers,you extreamly understimate them by comparing them to guardsmen even though they are lightyears to them,they only lightly panic when heavly injured,can use a wide range of weapons from pistols to lazer cannons and mechs,plus a helldiver with the proper gear could take down an Astartes like autocannons and Recoiless Rifles,not to mentions they can work together and find weakness.And finally the numbers,there're tens of millions of them while only a million astartes or so,and that's not counting the rest of the SEAF (which would be on the billions),it would be a Tau situation,not the top dog but it would take considerable resources and manpower to destroy Super Earth,not to mentions the eternal loyalty to Super Earth because why end up in a Imperial world that would be like living in Wolfenstein and having a Liberty awful time or live in a SE world where you Will have a considerable better life (compared to the Imperium) and if you capture SE they would mount a hellish resistance against the undemocratic Imperium,also Super Earth shines on its inovation and if required they could create planet destroyers,they didn't develop them because they were pointless
If my autocannon just bounces of a Tyranid but from AliExpress. It's gonna bounce off space marine armour.
Oh no tens of millions, I raise you 1 singular hive city.
@@mryellow6918 How many of them wouldn't defect to Super Earth? There's only so many commisars and being able to regulary get sunlight and not eat your dead or tasteless slop
I mean they did take a planet within a few hours and turned one into a black hole so theyd be tougher for the imperium to fight
@@sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046 the emperor protects. 40k citizenry are fanatics and would call Super Earth heretical for not worshiping the Emperor. I would also note that your description of helldivers is... arguably less than what guardsman have.
If someone can cross the whole galaxy in a few days, this being much, muuuch faster than the speed of light.
imma going to disagree on the Edgerunner crusade, V is powerful, but cyberpunk earth has way better stuff in the table-top lore, power armor with AI that lets you fire multiple weapons per turn would be devastating in the tabletop, and they do still have nukes
granted they would lose because they have less than 1 million people in space and no space weaponry but cyberpunk earth is almost impossible to hold because stuff like PDF and arbites cannot take the world
Adam smasher also definitely beats at least 1 marine, he has 70 years of experience, that's enough to make it to captain in the astartes, and those are 70 years of fighting
the problem isn't fighting cyberpunk earth, it's holding it, the tech priests would call for exterminatus on principle of the net being full of AI, and there are few natural resources since they were destroyed
I can't take a who could defeat what comparison seriously without the biggest threat to all existence, Mr Bean.
You don’t really need to match the imperium to thrive in 40k you just need to be either as strong technologically and numerically as the tau or as well defended as the dark eldar
The reapers from mass effect would be fun to see how they would take on 40k
Against anyone who's powerscaling in durability, attack potency, and destructive capacity is within the regular planet and moon tiers which requires a total of 59.44 zettatons for the GBE of Earth, 433 Exatons for the GBE of Mercury, and 29.6 Exatons for the GBE of Earth's moon every Astartes Legion and Custodes who isn't amped significantly by a exponential amount or built up a Alpha Plus tier pysker defensive barrier is going to get immediately one shot by the opponent's damage output. So a average Virtunimite would be a extreme danger to a entire Sector Fleet. Even Emperor Class Battleships and Gloriana Class Battleships would not be safe you would need to turn on the void shields as soon as possible and keep them on or else not even a thick adamantine hull and armor is going to protect you from a force worth Exatons tearing your ship from the inside out at relativistic plus combat and perception speeds.
You would need to detonate the ship's Warp drives or use weapon systems installed in vessels like the Phalanx, the Speranza, and Abaddon's planet killer ships and the Black Stone fortresses to land a direct shot. Which is very hard to do when you are trying land a hit on a small speedy target that is moving at light speed all around your vessel faster then your very out of date ten thousand year old computer systems can track and intercept in time.
I also think objective average Astartes alone taking over a city is a bit hyperbolic and takes away from the more in depth truth of the matter. Modern Astartes are used as strike forces now compared to their Great Crusade legion era selves. Meaning they are more sophisticated and adaptive for different hybrid option operations compared to the armies they were used as in the Great Crusade striking at the heads of rebellious movements and factions more often. Though there are times planetary campaigns are seen with full chapters those are special cases that require more logistics, resources, and fielded manpower and they very rarely happen when they are dealing with a other fronts they are getting slow grinding messages from the astropaths which can be sometime unreliable. The Imperium of Man's FTL communication networks really suck especially with how much of a concentrated monopoly of authority the varies inter-dependency institutions have in the Imperium of Man over bloated organization structure. In the Imperium of Man mostly everything that is restricted on the Imperium's institutes keep a frim tight grip on keeping the Imperium stagnant and regressive and barely advancing on certain fields in the massive overextended and uncleaned machine. The institutions, agencies, and houses are even willing to kill any person who tries linearly innovate their present technology even if the incentive intention was to make the Imperium more powerful in the long run those groups will be willing to kill such people most of the time and keep any knowledge of it for themselves into some office or vault where the contents of the documents or the blue prints of such research are simply forgotten for centuries or permanently.
The Imperium of Man is often extremely self sabotaging and incompetent on purpose often. Compared to Stellaris, Warframe, and the Forerunners the Imperium's hiccups and inability to crush the Chaos movements and xenos incursions are often extremely heavy self imposed restrictions when they got so many chances to make effective advances yet even in areas like the Imperial Navy they screw up time and time again using backwards body grinding methods over using simple autoloaders.
Even the UNSC and Terrans from Starcraft despite not having as powerful ships and as many deadly planet killing weapons with the exception of the Nova Bombs which are most destructive then average Exterminatus glassing ordinates would look at the meat grinding labor to load projectiles in Imperium ships and see how completely backwards that is and wasteful high cost of resources that is.
There's a mutitude of things that hard counter Viltrimites in 40k, void sheilds, psykers, daemons and warp stuff. That's not even going over durability ignoring weapons like a power weapons, pretty much every necron weapon in existence etc. A viltrimite cannot take on any 40k ships aslong as they have their sheilds up, if they fly into a void shield they will instantly be thrown into the warp and eaten by the infinite daemons that reside there. Void shields are litterely no joke, they tank terraton firepower like it's nothing. People forget that macro-cannons fire a kilo-ton project at almost the speed of light that is described as the size of habblocks, it's about 475.2 teratons per salvo from a light-cruiser.
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I wouldn't say they take teratons of power like it is nothing. Keep in mind it depends alot on the type of void shields, Cruiser class void shields are not as strong as Emperor Class Battleship void shields, and Emperor Class void shields are not as strong as Gloriana and so on forth with other ships above those. As I already said you better keep those void shields up or else your vessel is as good as dead and ship is destroyed. I would like to see where that is said with a light cruiser though. Some viltrimites are already well above petatons and exatons so 475.2 teratons wouldn't be too much of a problem for them. You require many exatons of force to really start to hurt the top tiers. The good thing is planet tier explosions can nearly kill Viltrimite as what happened when Mark, Omni-Man, and Thaedus destroyed Viltrum by ramming through it together and they nearly died in the attempt. An explosion that would require 83.5086 zettatons to overcome the planet's GBE. On devianart a guy named kirito352 went in depth about this planetary destruction and he did pretty good with his analysis. Being on the surface of the sun can also kill the high tier viltrimites and it seem like they only last at best 10 minutes while under such extreme destructive energies produced by the sun.
The anti durability weaponry would need to actually hit the target and those are pretty rare and hard to deploy as logistics and supply lines in Warhammer 40k is very difficult to execute for every faction and it is hard to hit something that is moving at faster then light speeds when they want to move that fast. Not everyone is going to know they are gonna need those let alone actually hitting the mark.
My bet is they would underestimate the imperium and think the funny human running at him with a sword won't hurt him. Stand there and act tough thinking the sword will break. Then swish he head is gone. It would at least happen 3 times. Or maybe thinking they are a bad ass and stand on a void grenade or try and face tank a void missile. Then pop they are in the warp where at the end of the day your physical power can mean very little
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After the first and couple times don't count on it especially for any warp based melee weapons. As soon as a Viltrumite feels even a ounce on pain in a few microseconds they are going to react very quickly. And it's going to be with full force making the person wielding it bloody paste on the ground. For vortex grenade it could be possible the super atoms might just let them resist better then regular matter does so if they aren't at the center where they are immediately pulled in the Warp and are just in the outer sphere of the radius I think the super atoms could give them some more resistance to the distorting pull then traditional matter. After all their bodies can resist the pull of black holes from far away so I wouldn't be too surprised if they could. Though mentally wise a whole other issue.
@@JohnLevi-t1w The Imperium faces beings that eclipse viltrimites by massive magnitudes and win, Daemons not even greater Daemons for example scale to outerversal. Viltrimites scale to multi-continental. It's easy to judge the Imperium at face value, but there's a ton of weapons and beings that scale very high in power levels. Any half decent psyker would make short work of a Viltrimite for example. That's not even including people like Ahzek Ahirman, Tigierius or Mephiston or it would be an absolute curb stomping.
Doomguy is practically the avatar of khorn. If you dropped him in the warp he might kill all the other chaos gods as he grows stronger as his hatred grows over time. He couldn't kill khorn himself, though as he has made khorn infinitly stronger, but he wouldn't lose either. The two two would be locked in eternal conflict growing more and more powerful over time. Doomguy is kinda like Hulk but just with his hatred of demons.
He would 100% kill khorn.
There's no way Doomguy *doesn't* kill Khorne
Doom Guy defeated the creator of the multiverse in his story. He solos. No contest.
@@jessicaberry5596 And he can only be killed by another primeval or whatever it is. So he can solo every verse because he is unkillable.
If zoom guy can kill God/“Himself”, I think he could kill Khorne too. Rather than becoming essentially Gork and Mork tbh
It's so interesting how every "space soldier" is around a similar level and gets outscaled by the 40k verse and then there's the Doomslayer, who would even humiliate a Primarch 💀
The Tantamount Space Marine
Kratos now being the God of Hope means he will never fall.
The key difference is 40k, because Ancient Warhammer had this kind of War:
"Star-gods and cannibal suns. Warp-spawn and soulless legions that were more monstrous than any Abominable Intelligence. Machines that devoured entire worlds for fuel, and vampiric entities that drained the energy from stars. Cannons that could split reality with a single shot.' Fabius smiled. 'A war that laid waste to every galaxy in the universe. A war our existence has yet to recover from.Glorious to think of, isn’t it?'" -Fabius Bile : Clonelord
And a Universe in Warhammer is infinite:
" "Death is the realisation of what we really are. In death I see a million stars, in a single galaxy with millions of counterparts across an infinite universe."-the world engine
And a Universe is also a Hilbert Space:
"“Hmm.’ Nebusemekh thought. That is interesting. He called up the records of the most recent cases and studied them. ‘It appears that the virus, together with the host, withdraws from our frame of reference, thus disappearing from your monitors. It would also explain why the infection appears to strike at random. While there is no spatial connection between the different chambers in which my people have been infected, there will be a connection through the other frames of reference within Hilberkh space that allows the infected to escape your monitors. I fact, it is possible that within these folded frames of Reference in Hilberkh space whole dimensions May lurk, folded upon themselves. It May be that these are nascent universes, struggling towards birth and seeking energy to flare forth - the virus may be a way of drawing matter into itself. Even universes hunger.”-Kasrkin
And guess one of the Capabilities of the Necrons... Dimensions!
While modern 40k is just less than a Shadow of its former being, Ancient 40k just had weapons that could destroy the fucking Universe, and even the Multiverse (don't believe me? Just ask the Breath of the Gods)
heavily clickbaited title, you're not putting characters against the warhammer 40k universe, you're putting sci-fi factions against the space marines. extreme biases in favour of the space marines, "titans are great duelists but poor at taking on multiple angles at the same time" if you put them up against an equal number of marines as you say at 1:50 then taking multiple angles shouldn't be a consideration since it's a 1 to 1 ratio. "send one viltremite to take a culture" brother send 3 Adeptus Custodes to defend an entire planet from the chaos hordes
You know Adam Smasher would become the Iron Fists chapter master like full stop, you think they don't like civilians now just wait till chapter master Addicus Smashicus turns up to the relief effort, Marines Malevolent start taking notes on orphan squashing this *will* be on the test.
warhammer powerscale glazing is wild
12:00 show me a primarch or a custodes that has punched through a planet
There are some realms however with entities that would scare even the inhabitance of the Warp and C'Tan with anxiety, a Fire Upon the Deep, Xeelee Sequence, Faction Paradox, Halo's the Flood, and Stellaris's Blokkats would be foes even the Chaos gods would have some uncertainty about totally breaking the Great Game and a threat to their own existence.
Even a game like Star Ruler would be quite dangerous for the 40k galaxy's structural integrity. And some beings in Xeelee Sequence that can be described as having powers that rival and surpass that of a potential unseen as of yet Omega Plus Grade level Psyker would have individually. Such as the Transcendence. Humans who conquered the Virgo Supercluster and were planning on manipulating multiple timelines into some kind of cosmic tier merging event in their plans. Then there is the Downstreamers which they are way too powerful for the entire Warp and real space universe to try to even phase simply one of them. For the power of a Downstreamer wields is so mighty and great he or she can handle a thousand big bangs like a casual endeavor for them. The chaos gods cannot beat that even within their own home turf and that is something even a Omega Plus Psyker cannot do.
I don't think a Downstreamer can be described as a she or he anymore. They are so beyond anything. Warhammer 40k is to the Manifolds what Harry Potter is to Warhammer40k.
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Nah, I like to think the Downstreamers hold their humanity as something sacred.
Tf are the blokkats gonna do
Doom _guy_ can take on a Chapter Master.
Doom _Slayer_ could 1v1 the Emperor and _maybe_ even win. He absolutely could best Khorne.
The Dark Lord's feats already surpassed all chaos gods, all while Doom Slayer killed the dark lord
Even Khorne the most serious and currently the most powerful chaos god couldn't even took over Terra and Sol System TWICE
@@ohamatchhamsKhorne was being sabotaged by three other Chaos gods, and even Aeldar gods no doubt. Doom slayer is strong, but you really think he’d be ignored if he was able to take out Khorne? Like Tzench? They’d all be all over his ass to prevent destabilization of “the great game”.
@@ohamatchhamsAlso factor in it wasn’t their domain, and they were fighting the emperor himself at his prime. I mean, Horus could only injure him with the power of four gods backing him from a whole separate dimension, where their power is weaker in reality. Doom slayer on Khornes home terf would only strengthen him, as the more war and death there is, the stronger Khorne gets. Anyway, enough glazing lmao.
Realistically Kratos would become a part of their religion, they're seemingly already spartan inspired
Kratos has weird and inconsistent weaknesses. Yes he kills gods, but he can be killed by mindless zombies or elves in a few hits.
He gets taken down but they never “kill” him. In one book he tried to let some wolves take him and eventually he just got right back up.
Thing is, Kratos can lose, or die. But so far nothing has been able to permanently keep him down. And i think much the same would happen if he were to come in contact with some champions of the 40k universe. He might lose, but he would not stay gone very long.
That Homelander burn. LMAO
Homelander would actually do a lot of damage but not be the apex predator
@@Wilky971 Now I'm picturing Homelander being munched by Tyranids. LOL
Honestly if you doing another VS, I think Helldivers vs Titanfall would be interesting.
The Titans solo.
@zachroos3910 care to elaborate? Or you just gonna do a smooth brain take and just say it is because you like one more than the other.
"Homelander gets taken out by Tau in melee!" got me!
the viltrumite comparison is so fake, he could just waltz up to any home planet he encounters and go straight through the thing and that's the end of that. He doesn't need to enter any sort of effective range to do that, he can just zoom through a planet instantaneously and, again, there is no planet there anymore.
Warframe vs Warhammer
This is a cool fight. I think warframe would fit in the 40k setting. Warframes are so few in number they could never really destory the imperium but they are strong enough to survive. Although the lore of warframe is kinda all over the place with feats. I think it suffers from "the rule of cool" as much as 40k.
@@PinguineseNight Lord dances with them
I play warframe more than anything which is kinda sad I’ve never touched 40k tabletop or video game but I believe space marines would delete warframes
@@lemniscatelogos7917 It mainly depends on what legion their geneseed stems from, their arsenal, and their experience in combat. Veterans can be well over 400 years old for instance.
A Dark Angels paladin from the Horus Heresy could take scores of Warframes.
@@thechadcruzaider7864 That note of context extends in both directions. as some frames have abilities that would need to be talked about like limbo, rhino, wisp, etc. sending things to other dimensions, stomping so hard time is messed up, or opening a pocket to the core of the sun. these are all things where there are so many variables where you need ground rules. for example, how many warframes are there? this question has two answers, one is the total number of warframes x2 because each frame has a prime version, OR its the wrong thing to look at because the limit isn't the warframes but the tenno pilots. So many questions!
Viltrumites on par with custodes? 100 guardsmen to best a space marine?Now i know that i m not going to finish watching this video...
Yeah, viltramites would body everything that isn't a psycher or necron. Nothing moves as fast, is as strong, or as durable. Not even big E. It's takes super advanced tech or magic for 40k to damage and the ground forces don't have that. The ships on the other hand have a chance, but the viltramites have natural ftl so they can easily dodge whatever the ships can throw at them.
So essentially, the viltrumites world-conquering tactics would prove untenable, as they would have to literally just go planet by planet destroying them with their sheer velocity of their in-atmosphere flight. They wouldn't even bother doing such a a thing, they would probably just see how fucked up extreme the 40k galaxy is and nope out to another galaxy, assuming there are other galaxies left, considering some of the Tyrannid theories.
they speed up to ftl over a period of time but they could definetly dodge the physical projectiles most ships use
@@averageeughenjoyer6429Not exactly.
Viltrumites don’t really have to speed up in order to reach FTL. They are generally just that fast even if they actively slow down on habitable planets as to not light their atmosphere on fire.
We see Nolan is capable of escaping the Solar System in no time once he leaves the earth’s atmosphere. Alan (even before any of his power-ups) is able to travel throughout the universe in no time.
A lot of Invincible’s higher tier characters are in a *lot* faster than any ships in 40k. Technically including the necrons too since they haven’t quite demonstrated having tech capable of traversing galaxies worth of distance in a relatively small amount of time.
Basically psychics or vortex grenades
Big E might be as strong as a viltrumie given he punched the void dragon to the moon(although he never showed this strength again for some reason). But yeah comparing primarch physical strength to viltrumites is fucking laughable. A 100 meter titan, and 300 meter wide wall is nothing compared to moons and planets
In the Warhammer universe there's alot of human planets, and if viltrum takes over even 1 then they gain the ability to multiply rapidly and gain psykers, especially if they pick a planet that will be difficult for the Imperium to respond fast to, but the viltrumites will struggle if the chaos gods find them first
A general reminder that our modern day rifles are akin to 40k lasguns, as they have the same exact statistics. Which means any universe with relatively modern guns such as Gears would only need the much hyberbolic 100 dudes to kill a marine.
However we have also seen a naked dude with a sharp stick kill a marine, they're far more vulnerable than people like to state.
Edgerunners would fuck up Astartes. Unfortunately, Astartes just aren't very adaptive. In open combat a runner is gonna have a bad time, but they rarely play like that. And with the ability of deckers directly killing machine spirits and taking them over, well, it's gonna be a bad time for 40k. Now just on scale, 40k would win, but runners would give them a run for their money.
Kratos would just get pieced up. Dude can die, and really enough guns would just tear him down.
Viltrumites actually clear. The Imperium is slow, and a Viltrumite could tear down and throw the spaceships around before they could be brought to bear. And if one hits the golden throne hard enough, Terra blows up so y'know that sucks.
Titanfall loses to scale, not marines.
Helldivers probably clear. They would likely begin to exhibit some of the faith based powers of the Sisters, and with their mobility completely dance around the Imperium. As we see in the, I believe Ciaphas Cain books, many Marine squads lose to sacrificial tactics as they just don't understand them.
Kratos clears tf are you on,
kratos clears, but likely would become an avatar of Khorn or become akin to a god, again, in this universe. doom guy definitely clears. likely would also have a religion around the “demon” marine or smth. orcs would love him.
As a new 40K fan. All of the videos like this are so fun to me. I love sci-fi and fantasy stuff, and pitting them against one another is fantastic.
FOR THE HUNDRETH TIME - I DON"T WANT DOOM VS SPACEMARINE I WANT *DOOM AS A SPACE MARINE* *metal music goes LOUDER*
Now that’s just overkill……for the forces of Chaos at least.
@@zumo6703 EXACTLY!!! also... You know... It's 40k, doesn't everything suppose to be overkill?
Kratos and Leman Russ teaming up would annihilate just about anything in their way.
Love to see this type of video. Here are some more suggestions:
Halo
Doctor Who
Mass Effect
Battlestar Galactica (2003)
Star Wars
Star Trek
Stargate
StarCraft
The Expanse
Fallout
Dead Space
Terminator
Half Life
Call of Duty Infinite Warfare
Alien vs Predator (The ones set in space)
Doom
Homeworld
Atomic Heart
Wolfenstein
Independence Day
BattleTech
I don't think even Master Chief could take on a Marine, just on tech alone. The Forerunners are the only ones in Halo i could see being a possible match.
But as for Mass Effect, i do wonder how a Krogan warlord might do in a 1v1, they're probably pretty equal to an average Marine.
@@Spike2276 The forerunners would dominate the 40K universe... They move stars around and build galaxy destroying super weapons.
Don't forget an Adult Ben 10.
@@goryanadazaghal1206 Not a fair comparison since ben 10 has major reality warping and invulnerability in alien x, and other super OP aliens like clockwork.
Ben 10 by omniverse soloes all of 40k like its nothing.
@@Spike2276 Did you forget the flood? They are the most dangerous in the halo verse by far and necessitated the creation of galaxy destroying weapons.
Nolan could boom around the 40k universe leaving nukes in his wake faster than any entity but Big E and some chaos gods could react. 1 Nolan level Viltrumite could wipe Terra in less than 30 seconds booming around. A full strength Astartes legion is not a ''fair comparison''. A viltrumite is so far above even a custodes its not worth mentioning. Its like, an ant to a cruise ship. I'm a huge 40k nerd with thousands of $ into the hobby. Nolan tanks almost the entirety of 40k by himself. Nothing short of some serious hacks from actual gods could stop him.
I feel like guardsmen were a little over hyped here, firstly using tabletop measures isn't super consistent but besides that guardsmen are basically Helldivers just without stratagems so how it went from 150:1 to 450:1 I don't know
Helldivers have a lot of Gear but practically no training, literally a 10 minute tutorial then they’re sent out, compared to the Guard and even Gears who are trained to fight from whenever they’re old enough to hold a gun. I came to the conclusion of 1 diver to 3 Gears in a previous video; so I extrapolated that here in the comparisons against the Astartes.
@@Buster-McTunder I see, makes sense, still feels a little disproportional but I didn't take the training into consideration
Maybe a little hyperbolic I agree, but this isn’t a scientific dissertation so I wasn’t taking it 100% seriously.
I would not say they are helldivers without stratagems. Typically a helldiver is better trained, as they are a special forces branch to the Super Earth military.
But the standard lasgun is much better than almost any standard weapon helldivers use.
@@lordnazar6382 yes standard lasgun is better than almost any standard weapon helldivers use by 37000 years of weapons upgrades end progresion
Sun Wukong pulls up to 5v1 the Emperor + Chaos Gods while disrespecting everything they stand for.
Psykers would melt the mind of viltrumites
Viltrumites fly sooooo much faster than light. To cross the Milky Way in days puts them so beyond the speed of light, and they don’t need a ship to do so. They just need to fly at that speed through a ship. What can they do to stop them from just light speed ramming their ships and taking out the imperium one by one lol. 50 is not many, but they move soooooooo fast. Speedblitz is real. Their combat speed is not that far off. Mark and Nolan both throw and punch Allen to the moon in a matter of seconds. Meaning their combat speed is ridiculously fast too.
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In the comics we see mark and and thragg fighting in the sun until Thragg burns to death, 40k plasma is as hot as our sun so I would say the imperium definitely has the weapons to fight viltrumites let alone other races, I would say it could go either way though if each side used proper tactics
There's lots of things as hot as the sun but nobody from the imperium throws a plasma shot the size of the sun
I think you have no conceptual understanding of Mass. I can use a furnace to make a fire as hot as the sun, doesn't mean it outputs the same energy.
Nolan when the emperor of man projects a choir of voices in his head each of which calls upon his deepest insecurities
Pullin an all nighter, I see something that looks intresting. Hears Destiny mentioned.... subbed ~ Love the content so far
Gotta go check out the past Destiny videos!
A demon primarc with direct help from a Chaos god is Planet level.
When angron was fighting the grey knights at The beacon , Khorne got off his skull throne and Channaled a strike with his Star killing blade through agron to Shatter the moon and made a entire star system go Insaine with a Murder curse and transforming them into Khorne worshipers. .
With how Khorn's blade is called a Starkiller , the size of the moon or planet doesnt matter that much .
There are one set of marines that would have no problem with Viltrumites, Noise Marines, Viltrumites have a key weakness to loud noises and considering noise marines make a sound so loud that it can obliterate an astartes’ ears and eyes they would have no trouble wiping them out.
psykers could literally just fry their brains
Those are all in a traitor legion though, aren’t they? Specifically slanesh’s I think.
I still don't understand how people keep getting this wrong. It's not loud noises that affect a Viltrumite it is a very hyper specific frequency that even the Viltrumites themselves did not know about.
@@MMAddict39 oh yeah that too. I remember that but now.
@@MMAddict39 really? I'd just been led to believe it was any massively loud sound, thanks for the info.
the guy on the left of the thumbnail looks like a skibidi toilet
I like how something like the viltrumites and kratos are basically unkillable for the imperium
and then there are the necrons that should be capable to kill anything that was in this video
No Necrons just no they would kill a viltrumite but Kratos no just no
@@Alby-td3ub it would not be the first god they have shattered
@@nicojokelin5547 Fair
@@nicojokelin5547 But Greek gods are very technical when it comes to death rules and again he can resurrect I wouldn’t be suprised if he crawled out of the afterlife again
@@Alby-td3ub the necrons have not killed a god they have shattered gods
The star gods for example are still "alive" but shattered to pieces
edit: they have killed the flayer
Probably Alex Mercer, the amount of evolution he can do on just one planet
Psyker can kill viltrumite essilly- brain damage- warp whispers- time travel to kill them in past(isaac ariman did that)
And where was those convenient powers in Horus Heresy? The emperor is the strongest psyker and even he isnt doing anything like this to solve his problems. So no, just because one guy got a luck roll on the random effects doesnt mean they can do those things casualy.
@@BrunofanofKyeah its not like the emperors powers were tied up on the astronomicon and the webway project until the very end of the heresy.
Also for the time travel thing the conversation the emperor and malcador have playing regicide implies that they used precognition and fate manipulation to get the best possible result during the crusade and the heresy, but the chaos gods did the same thing. They even use the the same terminology used in dune talking about a "golden path" that will lead mankind to final victory.
The problem with 40k is everything is wayy to slow. The RUclipsr says nolan moves near the speed if light but says he crosses the milky way in a few days. The milky way is over 100000 light years wide. Nolan is moving far faster than light . There's noone in 40k that could even react to him let alone set up a phschic attack
@@BrunofanofKThe Chaos gods kept him in check to keep the “great game” stable. Tzench is the god of manipulation and fuckery, and enjoys letting things play out, but also lets things not go too far. The emperor would absolutely fuc up a V, and high level demons could too, in the warp. A V in the warp is fucked, primarily because the entire dimension is trying to consume their soul, and fuc with their mind. Tzench, the fucwit that he is, would probably allow them in safe just to turn half into flip flops while playing a lute, and then let his demons absolutely clap their cheeks after he’s done with his final sonata.
Tengen Toppa Gurren lagann would squash your tiny tiny galaxy out of existance lol
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The Locust would have the best bet of doing some serious harm to Space Marines, them being underground would make the Space Marines probably hesitate before going underground. A lone chapter would take a lot of casualties because of the narrow spaces, I mean look at the Imperiums war against the squats during the Great Crusade, the Legions struggled against them due to the tight confines, which is why we saw Terminator armor created. COG is pretty screwed though.
The thing with Titanfall is that their tech could hurt and kill Astartes, but the big thing that they probably got that a lot of other sci-fi series has over 40k is FTL. It takes weeks or even months to travel between star systems in 40k and it is not safe either. Meanwhile Helldivers, Titanfall, etc. they all can travel between star systems within a day or two or even within hours. And being able to be faster than your enemy and being where he is not is more important than actually being able to fight them.
Cyberpunks universe is honestly not nearly fleshed out enough for us to know how well they would actually do. They have a lot of weapons and tech that the Imperium could reproduce and use but don't because of ai tech. They have some ridiculously smart weapons that 40k can't replicate expect from Humanities Golden Age of tech.
Helldivers I dunno man, they got some pretty powerful infantry weapons, but they really depend heavy on fire support and while they have a lot of ships in their Navy, they are tiny and weak in comparison to even the smallest Imperial warships and I don't see them being able to contest the space domain for very long. Their best strat would be to just FTL travel to worlds that aren't nearly as well defended and torch it and move on before Imperium forces can respond.
The only counter I could see the Space Marines having for Omni man, but even then its a toss up. Necrons probably could because their weapons are so esoteric that they probably could easily wound them.
I think omni man would destory a lot of 40k then hit a brick wall with the first really strong pysker shows up. Librarians, Eldar, necrons, void weapons I think would mess omni man up.
@@freed991 Probably. I could also seeing the Assassinorum MIGHT be able to think of something. The Imperial Navy would be the only force I could see possilbly taking him down conventionally just because of the sheer destructive power a single ship can unleash. I am also curious if a Virus bomb could do anything too?
Kratos and Captain Titus shake hands, and every Chaos Entity just starts shitting themselves through the sheer epicness of such a team up.
I surprised you not add doom guy
I feel like the Astartes would recruit the Slayer due to his one man crusade against Hell.
Doom Guy would make the Horus Heresy look like child's play. He'd beat Khorn to death with Slaanesh.
I've been loving 40k for a while and I haven't really played Doom much and I can agree that the doomslayer would decimate 40k
@Fenris1349 doom guy just not play with roles. He always gonna go for chaos
I’m planning on doing a sequel to this kind of video sometime in the future, Doomguy is on the list to reappear…. So is Ben 10.
The Dominion from Starcraft would not win, but I do think they could bloody the Imperiums nose and more significantly, I think afterwards you'd start to see Terran equipment showing up in Imperial use afterwards.
"So you're telling me this tank is both a front line combat vehicle and a long range artillery piece and can switch between modes at a moments notice?"
"This power armor is so cheap it's standard issue for their PDF?"
All the viltrumites have to do is destroy Terra and the Imperium is gone.
Even Homelander could delete a significant number of space marines on his own, like a primarch with laser eyes and flight and greater toughness.
Angron didn't hold up a warlords stomp, he held up a warhounds step and it almost killed him.
The faro plague would stop a tyrenid hive fleet in its tracks.
The Guardian (our player character)
Guardian solos tenfold
Young Wolf probably doesn't technically solo--most of the big feats under their belt canonically happen with a fireteam. (Yeah, technically some raids and raid encounters are soloable, like Nezarec and Atheon, but that doesn't strike me as reliable canon information.) Some of the more impressive solo feats they have are creatures more like Savathun and Calus. They put up a pretty good fight against the Witness but are forced to retreat and come back with a fireteam.
But you tell the Guardians that the Emperor has a cool gun and that raid happens inside of a year.
Oryx and Xivu Arath can solo quite a lot, Savathun probably finds a way to not have to. Witness solos entire civilizations without even slowing down. Rhulk probably only lost to the Guardian's fireteam because he humored the fight in the first place. Riven's death in her raid was basically suicide by cop, a part of a longer con that ensured her children lived on in the fact of the extinction of her species.
And the Vex are perhaps the most terrifying; a random Vex Goblin once simulated 227 perfect copies of the research team studying it, complete with interior experience as best as any of said researchers could tell. They sort of have something adjacent to time travel (it's pretty vague how it works; it's been noted in-universe that if it were truly an unlimited power of theirs, they'd have already won). Turns out the creator-gods, the Gardener and Winnower, simulate universes through a big game of Conway's Game of Life (no, really, that's the lore, see Unveiling). The Vex were the pattern that asserted itself over every single one of those countless universes, much to the vexation of the Gardener ("vexed" is the actual word choice, which is a big reason we know that). The Gardener and Winnower got into a fistfight over this, and they accidentally made a version of the universe they could interfere in to some extent, which is the current one.
As far as we can tell, the only reason the Vex haven't won yet is that they can't simulate paracausal effects--and they've come very, very close a few times. By the way, did I mention they just found a crazy new paracausal artifact we don't know what it does a few weeks ago? Or that their simulation network includes the very Garden that that all went down in?
The Vex are the final boss of Destiny. But also, can a microbial soup really "solo" anything? The definition of the word is a bigger hindrance to them than the actual forces arrayed against them.
@@life-destiny1196 One... Fucking... Guardian...
Xeelee. Just one single Xeelee can kill everyone in the 40K Milky Way.
Sorry, but no. V absolutely eviscerates any non-psyker marine. He's calced at trans-sonic movement speeds (movement, not ""reaction"" or ""combat"") with a sandevistan, meaning he outspeeds most marines by a factor of 10. doesn't matter the toughness of your armor because V's mantis blades with go through the joints and weak points.
Kratos and the Viltumites taking the wins kinda doesn't surprise me. Viltrumites destroying planets by flying through them at top speed ... yeah, 50 guys that can do that, more than enough to take on the imperium.
Can you make Armored Core in 40k :3?
I wanna see some dudes with unlimited potential like the Prototype, or Starkiller throwing around capital ships, also mechsuits like EVA units or ARMORED Cores would fare incredibly well in the setting
bro, primachs and custodes have NOTHING on a single mite. Not even close
I disagree, Battle Beast wasn't a planet buster and he was on pair with Thragg (the strongest Viltrumite in his time), a Primarch could pretty much defend himself against viltrumites, I just don't know how much can he handle before getting ABSOLUTELY COOKED.
I mean the characters in 40K can't defeat 40K. I think the biggest answer as to why is because unkillable daemons exist that just keep respawning until you're down, and also play on your fears and desires to corrupt you to their own cause. Don't underestimate the power of temptation toward anyone who enters the 40K universe.
I have an Idea, no idea if its been done before. But, what about Transformers?
The first issue that needs to be addressed is "Which Transformers?" There's a lot, and different continuities treat power scaling differently.
Lets start with Unicron and Primus I guess, pretty simple right? The two gods of the Transformers universe, the size of planets, and Unicron is capable of eating other planets. So marvel comics or Cybertron? Or IDW? Or Prime? The Bayverse? Unfortunately I don't know enough about all of these specific timelines, continuities, reboots etc. to get into detail about all of them, And the toys. Oh god the toys. if the newest "Nemesis" figure is to be taken into account, exactly how powerful is she? And the Omega Sentinels?
Oh god. I just remembered Beast Wars.
each transformer is millions of years old, they have insane battle experience, but their ships are very slow
@@joaosturzathat's why they used gates
The Mechanoids from Rimworld would probably thrive on 40k, not only because they can create more Mechanoids without consuming resources but because they are capable of nearly adapting to EVERYTHING, all it takes are a few Bolter rounds to the face before the Mechanoid adapts to effectively resist Bolter fire, with the same applying for Lasguns, Plasma, EMPs, and MAYBE Gauss
Noise marines would swat Viltrumites out of the air like Nats. They literally use weapons that are the Viltrumite's exact weakness and something tells me the Imperium would figure that out too.
If they figure out what frequency to use against them maybe but what other weapons do they have that could compare to a beam that can shoot through anything forever
Also feats and stated strength from both sides Viltrumites easily easily beat a Custodes to death only problem is Psyckers
1st they need to catch them, 2nd viltrumites can fly in space, they don't need metal shit to travel, put 2 or 3 of them on a planet all industries defenses structures are flatten. Their combat speed is insane and their travel speed is even scarier.
Viltrumites are only weak to a VERY specific frequency. The fact I keep seeing, especially after season 2, that it's just any high frequency is false
@@Alby-td3ubwell if its the whole universe working together then I'm sure the necrons have some tricks up their sleeves