This tool looks like a winner. Time is money so $525-USD is not at all unreasonable for the amount of work one can get done with it. As a working professional I see value in this tool and am putting it on my shopping list for ‘25. Thank you for the demo.
Time is money. So is ease of use. I finally purchased a $400 track saw. I’d had a circular saw for years, with some jigs I could get it to do most things the track saw does. But the speed and ease the track saw offers is a complete game changer for me. I wouldn’t have a need for this tool, but my daughter who works with miniatures might have a use for it someday. It’s a lot of money, but if it really speeds up your work flow, makes it more enjoyable, and it’s a hobby you you’ve already spent hundreds of hours with and plan to spend hundreds more - then the price tag can be worth it.
Interesting. We've been using devices similar to this in surgery for many years for tissue dissection and haemostasis. I would say be careful none the less with resin. It will still generate dust and the associated risks are still very real. 👍
Yeah, first thing I noticed.... cutting resin without any form of respiratory protection and dust/fumes extraction... And you seem to be the only one even commenting on that, as far I could see in the comments..... Very worrying! In general, people seem to be entirely oblivious (or willfully ignorant) about the fact how dangerous resin is (and 3D printing fumes even more so!), and that they are literally playing with their Lives. It takes time and build-up in your body for this highly toxic material (dust AND fumes) to kill you, but kill you it will.... And it won't be nice about it. Ah well, who am I kidding, no one is listening. It's like talking to a wall. As soon as you start talking about the very real health risks, and taking proper precaution, they ignore and turn away, if not flat out ridicule and laugh at you.
Hi all, if you watch my videos I frequently talk about the risks of resin dust and fumes, using respirators and extraction frequently. Sometimes, I cannot do this if filming a piece of commentary but I am very mindful of the danger and remind the audience of this, often explaining if I am not using mask due tio the filming. However, the MSC generates a bit of dust and or fumes, but it is definitely not as bad as using sanding sticks and bench or handheld sanders, so I'd say this is an improvement. It seems to deposit the small amount of dust at the base of the cut rather than tossing it airborne. Wear your PPE though kids.
Not having to apply finger force will save many delicate and brittle parts from damage. I was skeptical when read about it, but seeing it in action is helpful. Good video.
The advantage of ultrasonic cutting is that the workpiece is cut cleanly with minimal mechanical pressure. Example: injection-molded plastic kit with railings (ships) or tow cables for tank models. Anyone who works with resin parts will certainly find this device useful - I'm also thinking of hardened 3D printer parts. Personally, I was able to try out a similar device from Honda for a week... to be honest, I was reluctant to return it. As for the price: this is definitely not a cheap device! But after more than 50 years in model making, I can say that at the end of the day, good tools are always worth it. I have been using Proxxon tools for decades - never has one failed or been poorly designed.
Absolutely, I'm afraid I've reached the stage in my life when I am done with inadequate tools and I especially like investing in tools which are a real pleasure to use, perform without constraints and which last a lifetime 'the buy once, cry once philosophy'. This especially applies to my craft tools and DIY/Car tools where I buy good stuff, Dewalt, Knipex, Anest Iwata etc. and this is applying now for my modelling through brands like Proxxon.
Just a quick warning mate. If you are working with ANY kind of carbon fibre you need to be extremely careful with the dust that is generated. Not only will it remain in your lungs and cause havoc if you inhale it (see asbestos) but if it gets into the tool via the air intake it can destroy the motor because it is very conductive. I can attest to this fact. My solution is plenty of water applied directly to the cutting area to keep the dust in paste form. I know it’s something that most people will never have to worry about but since my lesson was a costly one, I feel it’s worth mentioning. I have nearly every Proxxon tool that they make and love every single one of them. This will definitely be on my ‘to buy’ list but maybe in a year or so once the pricing has calmed down!
Ultrasonic cleaners require hearing protection, these are probably a lot less of an issue due to just needing to move the knife, but, hearing protection is probably not a bad idea.
It seems to be a great tool, Micromark in USA has one since a few years, and it is nice to see something from Proxxon for Europe. But for the price it should have a silicon cable to give more freedom of mouvement.
I just had a look at Micromark and they offer two models, they are 399usd or 699usd. So these are usually quite expensive too. The technology is not cheap certainly.
@@scalewarmachines Not cheap, but as you said, a good tool is a good investment. I bought several tools in the past, which I didn't think that I would use so regularly as it is happening now.
For a full time model maker it is a superb piece of equipment and as a brand this company back everything up with excellent customer service and a parts department that holds every spare part for all of their tools and equipment. I can't recommend them enough. 😊👍
I think its great concept even at it price. As people get older its hard to enjoy hobbies these kinds of gizmos must really help hand fatigue on big projects.
If ever there was a need to "try before you buy", this is it. I'm a total sucker for new tools and I'd love to give one of these an outing. I can certainly see its advantages and some applications, but my gut reaction on seeing it in action is that it would be too clumsy for most of what I do, and I think I'd soon find myself reaching for my Swann-Morton scalpels again.
He is just demonstrating the tool. This doesn't mean you have to buy one just showing the various uses. Also if you look this item up it has different prices and other companies may have a version. This makes since if you do a lot of modeling . Remember this is a hobby so you are spending money that you have extra anyways. A person can save up if serious or just stay with your technique you have.
You mention it's expensive. It is. However, I have had a couple of Proxxon bench tools now for over 12 years in constant use for modelling and small woodwork projects. Still going strong. I have had no issues whatsoever. The bench saw is even still on it's first blade. I can't fault them as far as my experience is concerned. I wonder how many of the less expensive alternatives last that long in constant use. Looks like a handy product for working with resin and styrene.
You may be laboring under the impression that this is just a fancy scalpel. Ultrasonic cutters are a very different beast, with special capabilities. Most importantly, they allow for putting less force on the parts you're cutting. What you're saying is similar to claiming you don't need a circular saw because you have a Swiss army knife with a saw blade. As for the price, Proxxon seems expensive, but it's not if you compare it to any major brand of power tool on the market. I have a new of their products, they've never let me down except for an "on/off" sticker that peeled off, once.
This more a tool for resin parts, and those in to 3D resin printing, which is notoriously difficult to clean using the standard tools used with injection molded kits, and more importantly, resin dust is NOT SAFE and gets every were, that's were this will shine, cutting down, pun intended, on dust. But 400 euro's? 200 euro's and I'll be tempted.
It's sonic. That should tell you everything you need to know. Like a sonic screwdriver. Proxxon gives you something reliable, which is very much not a guarantee in todays world. Most devices that purportedly do the same as this are just a variation of the old wobble engraver. I have not tried this tool yet, but I definitely will.
Well i can barely afford the model kits anymore so.....no. My trusty X-acto knife hasn't failed me yet. Whats next to spend money on? Sonic file? Sonic glue applicator?
For clean up on resin parts if you are in to 3D printing, then this is actually a good tool to have to reduce the rather dangerous resin dust when sanding resin parts/models etc.
Really good video review. I have some Proxxon tools. Fantastic products. BUT some of there stuff is just overpriced. This sonic cutter IS top of the line and ON the pricey side too. This type of tool has been on the market for decades. Unless you really want this one, I would shop around.
I’d definitely steer well clear of Proxxon if you’re on a budget. These are undoubtedly Rolls Royce tools. There’s always a cheaper alternative, as shown on the channel.
I think in this case it's really the technology in it that is currently expensive.The cheapest Chinese alternative I saw was also around 300 bucks and the Japanese ones start at 800 and go into the range of multiple thousands. Either this is a very low volume production / technology or just very tricky / expensive to produce - i guess it's the latter. Otherwise there would be way cheaper Chinese versions of it on the market because it could be super useful to many hobbyists if it would be sold in the range of 100 bucks.
Some obvious criticisms: price, the sheer size of the holder, the ridgid cable, no quick chuck and the cable connector. That's enough friction to make me want to wait for version 2 or 3 but it is interesting tech.
Obviously Proxxon believe we modellers are multi millionaires either that or they think we are totally demented , stick to your hand tools ladies and gentlemen , now where did I put my narrow head cutting pliers .
I don't see why not but I am no machining expert, personally, I'd certainly like to try, the only problem is complex shapes like muzzle brakes might need to be cast.
I have a sonic cutter and it looks very much like this. The issue I have with it, is it's bulky. If you have a larger print and you need to reach certain areas this won't work. The blade does not stick out far enough to reach. Also, if you have supports on inboard flat surfaces this won't work very well. There needs to be an extended chisel style blade to reach areas where this could really shine.
I use a number of Proxxon tools and they tend to be priced on the more expensive side, but still within budget, and I've found them to be both reliable and of above average quality. However at this price, this very specialized device is extremely pricey. The pseudo use case of using it on 3D printed resin is sort of a non-issue - supports remove quickly and easily in boiling water - I've printed thousands and thousands of miniatures for people over the past several years and I can't imagine a situation where I am cutting away supports manually. I could see a use case for modelers with arthritis in their hands making cutting difficult and painful so possibly worth the price for those people.
Looks useful for cutting of those teeny parts that always break with nippers. Otherwise, I’m hard pressed to find a use for this. Proxxon does make quality tools though, I have several. And they’re actually made in Germany, not China like everyone else’s.
For reference. There is a scale modeling tv program from approximately 20 years ago. Just balpark guess. It looks at scalemodel makers from tanks to ship, dioramas, gundam etc. There is a gundam episode of the rx-93 Nu gundam and the guy uses a vibro knife like this. Always wanted one but being expensive and having to import was to much. So this might be a option
The blade changing mechanism is from the dark ages ! They could learn a lot from Fein Tools ! Their blades change out with a captivated lever. No external tool that needs to be located as an accessory !
Would love to have one, but the only thing holding me back is the price. Hopefully these sonic cutters will drop in price as they get more mainstream. Also I shudder to think what kind of damage it would do to your finger if you slip!
Brudder i stuck an ultrasonic transducer under a steel utensil with a jb weld and stuck it's driver in a green bucket, now it's a high precision tool known as a ultrasonic bath.
There’s no specific link yet for the UK distributor, as the product is so new, I’ll ask Proxxon for a link and update the description as soon as possible.
I've updated the description with a bit more info' - I hope that helps. It is still relatively new so hasn't properly hit the shelves/online stores yet, or it will likely do so in the coming days.
I looked into something like it a few years ago after I saw a demo cutting cake but that machine was far to big for modelling and around €7000, glad its scaled down and much cheaper now, but I still doubt I would be getting one for €400 maybe if it drops to €100-200
My father was a master craftsman in wood, and he made some incredible pieces, marquetry, etc. He would never think of using a power tool for anything. He never owned any tools that needed electricity. It's such a pity that nearly everyone these days, wants to save themselves time and effort, which to me defeats the object of the pleasure of producing something purely on your level of skill. I do like the tool though.
I would agree with you 100%. But as time marches on some of us develop issues with our hands (arthritis etc) and would probably have to give up modelling if it were not for tools like this.
I asked the manufacturer and they said this: "in the US it will be available at every dealer selling our products, as well as on our own outlet proxxon-us-shop.com/" - please do note the product is so new, it is still being rolled out. I hope that information helps.
I have a the Proxxon Micromot, with variable controller, and I love it. This, as others have said, is a ludicrously expensive tool for a problem that doesnt exist. Not only that but in the video it looks like hes still struggling (shaking, jerking) to get the blade through, and has to resort to a manual 'sawing motion' to make any progress. Then when the cut is made, it looks like a butchered dogs hind leg. If I'm going to carry out a 'rough' cut, then I'll reach for my sub £10 cutters or saw, job done. Then there's the noise... teeth rattling, agh!!! Sorry, but I just dont get it at all.
Very cool, though 99% of the time I think a simple exacto for the fine stuff, and a pair of good nippers for the heavy stuff will do the job. There are definitely some touch areas that are thick I would like to precisely saw, and those would be good with this tool. But not worth the 400 pound price for just that
It sounds very similar to a workshop multi tool - albeit scaled down. 5:15: I suspect the residents of Luxembourg would not like to be told that they live in Germany? :)
Interesting tool and video! 👍👍 Ive lots of hand tools, precision types, collected over the years, but with age and disabilities, I wonder if this machine might help me keep on modelling? I've been thinking about other Proxxon tools too - great reputation. Can I ask, does it vibrate in the hand/feel uncomfortable (Im thinking of old fashion engravers/vibro tools)? Is it very noisy? Thanks in advance - reviews on their other tools gratefully received too👍✌️😊
You will feel no vibration at all, this is a 'helping hand', reducing the effort and mess of the more conventional equivalent tool. So someone with mobility issues in their hands, for example, where using a set of plastic clippers or Xuron pliers to cut out pieces from sprues is uncomfortable, would find this effortless to use and very easy-going. It generates a little bit of heat but vibration is non-existant, you even can't see or feel the blade movement of the tool. You can hear the noise (and see its effects) and I included the noises as it was interesting, it occasionally squeaks like a little mouse or rodent, that's it.
€400 is an obscene amount of money for a tool like that. If you’re rich and using it for business type purposes maybe, if it does save a significant amount of time/money. To me, it looks chunky and unwieldy. The flex would drive me nuts, and looking at what he’s doing with it, doesn’t make me want to run out and buy one. Big nope from me.
Yes agreed, the prices are certainly eye-watering for some. There are options (see the Minicraft film) for those on a budget, but these are definitely something aspirational or to get one day, if budget allows.
Too bad it isn't available in 115V, seems to be only in 230V. Not very handy for modelers who don't have 230V. Hopefully they come out with a 115V model down the road.
I used to buy budget tools (I'm talking DIY/home renovation/automotive not modelling), I'm done with that. I don't want cheap feeble rubbish anymore and I buy the best tools I can, Dewalt, Knippex, Proxxon etc., even if that means I have to save up or pay them off. I'm done with tat, I like tools that are well made and are a joy to use. Same with my airbrushes and spray guns. Proxxon is pricey for sure, but as I say in the film, the cheaper sonic cutter clones aren't really that cheap. Either way, nothing but good experiences with Proxxon in my experience, so far. I don't use Vevor for obvious reasons given what I say above. I have one or two Amazon Basics tools, Lidl and Aldi, those are good and had good reviews, but are often rebranded from people like Bosch or Sheppach (European tool brands and supermarkets). One or twonew-comer competitor brands from China have impressed me, like Gaahleri airbrushes, but most items are cheap and nasty.
This is 20 + year old technology. This is a modified tool from the dental industry. Tech takes way too long to get into an affordable, practical, consumer applicational product !
Yeah, great tool...for the elite. Who can afford these tools! Going to have to wait years till they cone close to affordable for the builders who can barley afford the kits alone these days! Greedy bastards.
There are alternatives, the cheapest I found was $259 on Amazon, so even the Chinese clones aren't cheap. So, the pricing needs to come down generally, I'd say, for the average user to be tempted. You pay the price you think is right and you get your dues. What do you think is a fair price? $150 dollars? 50 dollars? I reckon 300 dollars/euros, might be about right for a brand like Proxxon, but I don't have to run a tool business!
@@scalewarmachines $259 is still way over my budget. 100 to 150 is about my range. Got a mortgage to pay and one has to eat and put gas in the car. Why do they overprice their products? Because they can.
@@angelohernandez6060 production in Europe is not as cheap as China. One the price - yes, expensive. But only the equivalent of 2-3 low price Tamiya RC kits or one of their more pricey ones. Or the equivalent of 3-4 kit hauls from my usual suppliers.
Just to clarify, I’m not sponsored. I’m merely collaborating with a brand I greatly admire. You’re obviously right, you don’t need to have a tool like this if you don’t want it and I say that. I would suggest you try it if you get the chance to, as it’s quite interesting and roadtesting it is essential. I certainly wouldn’t suggest you spend 400 euros without trying a tool first.
I have been model making for over 50 years, I've a myriad of precision hand tools etc BUT, I'm aging and now have disabilities, tools like this could help me in therapeutic endeavours such as model making. Age and reduced ability/disability comes to everyone, sooner or later. So don't knock innovation. Hopefully prices will reduce over time too💜✌️👍😊🤞
Yep. Quite a bargain. I’m getting old. That’s $300 less than my first car. For crying out loud! No end of the “inflation” con, eh? That said, no doubt justified by someone with too much money.
At 05:12 I said "their factory and their headquarters are in Luxembourg and Germany". Which is correct. For your information, their HQ is in Luxembourg, their factory is in Germany. Listen properly and you'll hear I say "and", as I know they are two separate countries! Although admittedly it may sound like "in" if you aren't paying attention.
Another Proxxon tool that looks interesting until I see the nice. That is way too much to save me a bit of time with some decent side-nippers and a razor saw. From an engineering side, what on earth is in the base unit - not the power supply because it clearly has an external PSU, and the piezo vibrator has got to be in the hand unit -so what on earth in the base unit, probably very little, I suspect it is little more than a tool holder.
@@scalewarmachines It would be interesting I agree, but I just can’t imagine there is much in it. It is almost as if they originally intended the PSU to be inside but changed their mind. I have seen what is inside ultrasonic cleaners (which I imagine is pretty much the same technology) and it is the power supply an the transducer and that is about it - the only other electronics is for the timers and the display.
I got proxxon toons that cost 20x as much as this vibrating knife.. pretty much china quality, yes. A lathe that twists when changing z feeding direction, a mill that you can't tram, etc.. it's funny that you mention - but half of proxxon products are rebranded china products as you can get the exactly same product for 1/2 price (only difference is plastic color).
This tool looks like a winner. Time is money so $525-USD is not at all unreasonable for the amount of work one can get done with it. As a working professional I see value in this tool and am putting it on my shopping list for ‘25. Thank you for the demo.
Time is money. So is ease of use. I finally purchased a $400 track saw. I’d had a circular saw for years, with some jigs I could get it to do most things the track saw does. But the speed and ease the track saw offers is a complete game changer for me.
I wouldn’t have a need for this tool, but my daughter who works with miniatures might have a use for it someday. It’s a lot of money, but if it really speeds up your work flow, makes it more enjoyable, and it’s a hobby you you’ve already spent hundreds of hours with and plan to spend hundreds more - then the price tag can be worth it.
Interesting. We've been using devices similar to this in surgery for many years for tissue dissection and haemostasis. I would say be careful none the less with resin. It will still generate dust and the associated risks are still very real. 👍
Yeah, first thing I noticed.... cutting resin without any form of respiratory protection and dust/fumes extraction...
And you seem to be the only one even commenting on that, as far I could see in the comments..... Very worrying!
In general, people seem to be entirely oblivious (or willfully ignorant) about the fact how dangerous resin is (and 3D printing fumes even more so!), and that they are literally playing with their Lives. It takes time and build-up in your body for this highly toxic material (dust AND fumes) to kill you, but kill you it will.... And it won't be nice about it.
Ah well, who am I kidding, no one is listening. It's like talking to a wall. As soon as you start talking about the very real health risks, and taking proper precaution, they ignore and turn away, if not flat out ridicule and laugh at you.
Hi all, if you watch my videos I frequently talk about the risks of resin dust and fumes, using respirators and extraction frequently. Sometimes, I cannot do this if filming a piece of commentary but I am very mindful of the danger and remind the audience of this, often explaining if I am not using mask due tio the filming. However, the MSC generates a bit of dust and or fumes, but it is definitely not as bad as using sanding sticks and bench or handheld sanders, so I'd say this is an improvement. It seems to deposit the small amount of dust at the base of the cut rather than tossing it airborne. Wear your PPE though kids.
Not having to apply finger force will save many delicate and brittle parts from damage. I was skeptical when read about it, but seeing it in action is helpful. Good video.
The advantage of ultrasonic cutting is that the workpiece is cut cleanly with minimal mechanical pressure. Example: injection-molded plastic kit with railings (ships) or tow cables for tank models. Anyone who works with resin parts will certainly find this device useful - I'm also thinking of hardened 3D printer parts. Personally, I was able to try out a similar device from Honda for a week... to be honest, I was reluctant to return it. As for the price: this is definitely not a cheap device! But after more than 50 years in model making, I can say that at the end of the day, good tools are always worth it. I have been using Proxxon tools for decades - never has one failed or been poorly designed.
Absolutely, I'm afraid I've reached the stage in my life when I am done with inadequate tools and I especially like investing in tools which are a real pleasure to use, perform without constraints and which last a lifetime 'the buy once, cry once philosophy'. This especially applies to my craft tools and DIY/Car tools where I buy good stuff, Dewalt, Knipex, Anest Iwata etc. and this is applying now for my modelling through brands like Proxxon.
I love building and modeling but my arthritis is getting worse every year. Something like this can help.
I've seen other brands online, but never one in action before. Thanks for the video!
Just a quick warning mate. If you are working with ANY kind of carbon fibre you need to be extremely careful with the dust that is generated. Not only will it remain in your lungs and cause havoc if you inhale it (see asbestos) but if it gets into the tool via the air intake it can destroy the motor because it is very conductive. I can attest to this fact. My solution is plenty of water applied directly to the cutting area to keep the dust in paste form. I know it’s something that most people will never have to worry about but since my lesson was a costly one, I feel it’s worth mentioning. I have nearly every Proxxon tool that they make and love every single one of them. This will definitely be on my ‘to buy’ list but maybe in a year or so once the pricing has calmed down!
I think I wouldn’t be able to get over the sound it makes. Always reminds me of the dentist 😅
Sometimes they hit the right spot and the sound goes right through the ear. Yes it sound exactly like them.
Ultrasonic cleaners require hearing protection, these are probably a lot less of an issue due to just needing to move the knife, but, hearing protection is probably not a bad idea.
It seems to be a great tool, Micromark in USA has one since a few years, and it is nice to see something from Proxxon for Europe. But for the price it should have a silicon cable to give more freedom of mouvement.
I just had a look at Micromark and they offer two models, they are 399usd or 699usd. So these are usually quite expensive too. The technology is not cheap certainly.
@@scalewarmachines Not cheap, but as you said, a good tool is a good investment. I bought several tools in the past, which I didn't think that I would use so regularly as it is happening now.
For a full time model maker it is a superb piece of equipment and as a brand this company back everything up with excellent customer service and a parts department that holds every spare part for all of their tools and equipment.
I can't recommend them enough. 😊👍
I think its great concept even at it price. As people get older its hard to enjoy hobbies these kinds of gizmos must really help hand fatigue on big projects.
If ever there was a need to "try before you buy", this is it. I'm a total sucker for new tools and I'd love to give one of these an outing. I can certainly see its advantages and some applications, but my gut reaction on seeing it in action is that it would be too clumsy for most of what I do, and I think I'd soon find myself reaching for my Swann-Morton scalpels again.
He is just demonstrating the tool. This doesn't mean you have to buy one just showing the various uses. Also if you look this item up it has different prices and other companies may have a version. This makes since if you do a lot of modeling . Remember this is a hobby so you are spending money that you have extra anyways. A person can save up if serious or just stay with your technique you have.
You mention it's expensive. It is.
However, I have had a couple of Proxxon bench tools now for over 12 years in constant use for modelling and small woodwork projects. Still going strong. I have had no issues whatsoever. The bench saw is even still on it's first blade. I can't fault them as far as my experience is concerned. I wonder how many of the less expensive alternatives last that long in constant use.
Looks like a handy product for working with resin and styrene.
Cool device! No mention of it anywhere in the US store. I guess we’ll have to wait.
check out micromark tools they have their wonder cutter there which id the same thing as this just with a different design and its USa based.
For that price point, I would expect a silicone cable from the base to the tool for better flexibility
Intresting , not seen that before. Thank you Sir :)
And around 5:26 I was instantly exiting the video. Sorry, but I'll use my trusted hands. I already had those, and cost me nothing!
Similarly, however I now am aging and have disabilities, so never take health and ability for granted 💜✌️👍😊
You may be laboring under the impression that this is just a fancy scalpel. Ultrasonic cutters are a very different beast, with special capabilities. Most importantly, they allow for putting less force on the parts you're cutting. What you're saying is similar to claiming you don't need a circular saw because you have a Swiss army knife with a saw blade. As for the price, Proxxon seems expensive, but it's not if you compare it to any major brand of power tool on the market. I have a new of their products, they've never let me down except for an "on/off" sticker that peeled off, once.
GR8T commercial. Thanks. You RoCk!
This more a tool for resin parts, and those in to 3D resin printing, which is notoriously difficult to clean using the standard tools used with injection molded kits, and more importantly, resin dust is NOT SAFE and gets every were, that's were this will shine, cutting down, pun intended, on dust. But 400 euro's? 200 euro's and I'll be tempted.
It's sonic. That should tell you everything you need to know. Like a sonic screwdriver. Proxxon gives you something reliable, which is very much not a guarantee in todays world. Most devices that purportedly do the same as this are just a variation of the old wobble engraver. I have not tried this tool yet, but I definitely will.
Well i can barely afford the model kits anymore so.....no.
My trusty X-acto knife hasn't failed me yet. Whats next to spend money on? Sonic file? Sonic glue applicator?
Everything has its place. X-acto does the job. Sonic hedgehog?
@@scalewarmachines lol I was thinking about saying that. 😂
For clean up on resin parts if you are in to 3D printing, then this is actually a good tool to have to reduce the rather dangerous resin dust when sanding resin parts/models etc.
Sonic screwdriver...
This is in my "must have" list. Thanks for the review.
Would this be good for cutting door or hatch panels out of models?
Yes, certainly.
I d like to see how fast and precise you can cut cardboard and how the cut looks like in detail. Can you do some makro shots of different materials?
Sir, can you use the sonic cutter for polishing metal?
Any idea when this will be available in the US?
I'll ask.
Really good video review. I have some Proxxon tools. Fantastic products. BUT some of there stuff is just overpriced. This sonic cutter IS top of the line and ON the pricey side too. This type of tool has been on the market for decades. Unless you really want this one, I would shop around.
This is a game changer,I see one in my future
Do these guys know that we're doing this as a hobby? And we have other expenses in our lives.
I’d definitely steer well clear of Proxxon if you’re on a budget. These are undoubtedly Rolls Royce tools. There’s always a cheaper alternative, as shown on the channel.
I think in this case it's really the technology in it that is currently expensive.The cheapest Chinese alternative I saw was also around 300 bucks and the Japanese ones start at 800 and go into the range of multiple thousands. Either this is a very low volume production / technology or just very tricky / expensive to produce - i guess it's the latter. Otherwise there would be way cheaper Chinese versions of it on the market because it could be super useful to many hobbyists if it would be sold in the range of 100 bucks.
Some obvious criticisms: price, the sheer size of the holder, the ridgid cable, no quick chuck and the cable connector.
That's enough friction to make me want to wait for version 2 or 3 but it is interesting tech.
Obviously Proxxon believe we modellers are multi millionaires either that or they think we are totally demented , stick to your hand tools ladies and gentlemen , now where did I put my narrow head cutting pliers .
Is it possible to machine on a mini table top metal lathe, my own 1/35 tank barrels? Ammo shells etc.
I don't see why not but I am no machining expert, personally, I'd certainly like to try, the only problem is complex shapes like muzzle brakes might need to be cast.
@@scalewarmachines Or use the kit provided muzzle break.
True - yes.
I have a sonic cutter and it looks very much like this. The issue I have with it, is it's bulky. If you have a larger print and you need to reach certain areas this won't work. The blade does not stick out far enough to reach. Also, if you have supports on inboard flat surfaces this won't work very well. There needs to be an extended chisel style blade to reach areas where this could really shine.
Doesn't appear to be available in the US right now...can'r find it in catalog.
I use a number of Proxxon tools and they tend to be priced on the more expensive side, but still within budget, and I've found them to be both reliable and of above average quality. However at this price, this very specialized device is extremely pricey. The pseudo use case of using it on 3D printed resin is sort of a non-issue - supports remove quickly and easily in boiling water - I've printed thousands and thousands of miniatures for people over the past several years and I can't imagine a situation where I am cutting away supports manually. I could see a use case for modelers with arthritis in their hands making cutting difficult and painful so possibly worth the price for those people.
Looks useful for cutting of those teeny parts that always break with nippers.
Otherwise, I’m hard pressed to find a use for this.
Proxxon does make quality tools though, I have several. And they’re actually made in Germany, not China like everyone else’s.
japan has been using these for years
For reference. There is a scale modeling tv program from approximately 20 years ago. Just balpark guess. It looks at scalemodel makers from tanks to ship, dioramas, gundam etc. There is a gundam episode of the rx-93 Nu gundam and the guy uses a vibro knife like this.
Always wanted one but being expensive and having to import was to much. So this might be a option
$250 bucks, CRAZY!
can be use with pp and pc or nylon?
I think so, best check on the manufacturer web page which is now up. www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27300.php
The blade changing mechanism is from the dark ages ! They could learn a lot from Fein Tools ! Their blades change out with a captivated lever. No external tool that needs to be located as an accessory !
I wonder how much more developed the technology needs to be? Ultrasonic units have been in dental circles for many years, and can be had for c £200.
Yes, I imagine these come from dental tech.
Can you measure the absolute accuracy? (e.g. runout, minimum cut width). There's no specs at all on the proxxon website.
They're keeping the exact specs under their hat - nudge, nudge. Don't want the rip-off merchants to catch wind of it.
Would love to have one, but the only thing holding me back is the price. Hopefully these sonic cutters will drop in price as they get more mainstream.
Also I shudder to think what kind of damage it would do to your finger if you slip!
Brudder i stuck an ultrasonic transducer under a steel utensil with a jb weld and stuck it's driver in a green bucket, now it's a high precision tool known as a ultrasonic bath.
Indeed
Yes i agree its expenciv, but youll have it for ever and the quality of proxon is amazing
Is there a more specific link to purchase one of these as I couldn't find it via the link in the description.
There’s no specific link yet for the UK distributor, as the product is so new, I’ll ask Proxxon for a link and update the description as soon as possible.
I've updated the description with a bit more info' - I hope that helps. It is still relatively new so hasn't properly hit the shelves/online stores yet, or it will likely do so in the coming days.
@@scalewarmachines Cheers
I contacted Proxxon US sales and they told me the Microsonic cutter would be available by the end of the year. (115 v)
I looked into something like it a few years ago after I saw a demo cutting cake but that machine was far to big for modelling and around €7000, glad its scaled down and much cheaper now, but I still doubt I would be getting one for €400 maybe if it drops to €100-200
My father was a master craftsman in wood, and he made some incredible pieces, marquetry, etc. He would never think of using a power tool for anything. He never owned any tools that needed electricity. It's such a pity that nearly everyone these days, wants to save themselves time and effort, which to me defeats the object of the pleasure of producing something purely on your level of skill. I do like the tool though.
I would agree with you 100%. But as time marches on some of us develop issues with our hands (arthritis etc) and would probably have to give up modelling if it were not for tools like this.
Where's the link to purchase in the US?
I asked the manufacturer and they said this: "in the US it will be available at every dealer selling our products, as well as on our own outlet proxxon-us-shop.com/" - please do note the product is so new, it is still being rolled out. I hope that information helps.
I have a the Proxxon Micromot, with variable controller, and I love it.
This, as others have said, is a ludicrously expensive tool for a problem that doesnt exist.
Not only that but in the video it looks like hes still struggling (shaking, jerking) to get the blade through, and has to resort to a manual 'sawing motion' to make any progress. Then when the cut is made, it looks like a butchered dogs hind leg. If I'm going to carry out a 'rough' cut, then I'll reach for my sub £10 cutters or saw, job done.
Then there's the noise... teeth rattling, agh!!!
Sorry, but I just dont get it at all.
Very cool, though 99% of the time I think a simple exacto for the fine stuff, and a pair of good nippers for the heavy stuff will do the job. There are definitely some touch areas that are thick I would like to precisely saw, and those would be good with this tool. But not worth the 400 pound price for just that
I would like to buy Proxxon tools, but having something sitting on my bench painted goose-sh*t green and yellow just looks bad.
It sounds very similar to a workshop multi tool - albeit scaled down.
5:15: I suspect the residents of Luxembourg would not like to be told that they live in Germany? :)
I said “and Germany” not “in Germany”.🙄…so they have no reason to.
Seems pricey; more than my Bambu A1's. But I'll keep an eye out for it as I would like to try one.
Sadly it would need to be $100 to be successful. My $15 Ruitool nippers and $1 nano file get me a smooth finish.
Interesting tool and video! 👍👍
Ive lots of hand tools, precision types, collected over the years, but with age and disabilities, I wonder if this machine might help me keep on modelling?
I've been thinking about other Proxxon tools too - great reputation.
Can I ask, does it vibrate in the hand/feel uncomfortable (Im thinking of old fashion engravers/vibro tools)? Is it very noisy?
Thanks in advance - reviews on their other tools gratefully received too👍✌️😊
You will feel no vibration at all, this is a 'helping hand', reducing the effort and mess of the more conventional equivalent tool. So someone with mobility issues in their hands, for example, where using a set of plastic clippers or Xuron pliers to cut out pieces from sprues is uncomfortable, would find this effortless to use and very easy-going. It generates a little bit of heat but vibration is non-existant, you even can't see or feel the blade movement of the tool. You can hear the noise (and see its effects) and I included the noises as it was interesting, it occasionally squeaks like a little mouse or rodent, that's it.
@@scalewarmachines That sounds perfect 👍 It definitely has it's place🤞👍🤔 I shall keep one firmly in mind. Thanks for the reply 👍👍😊
Seems to me like the product "wonder cutter", that I have been using for years. So now Proxxon is bringing one out too - what's so special about it?
The most that tool should cost is $150.00 USD. Anything more will demand competition !
Will this cut flesh and bone?
Roy DeMeo would appreciate it.
€400 is an obscene amount of money for a tool like that. If you’re rich and using it for business type purposes maybe, if it does save a significant amount of time/money. To me, it looks chunky and unwieldy. The flex would drive me nuts, and looking at what he’s doing with it, doesn’t make me want to run out and buy one. Big nope from me.
Pretty neat bit of kit.
I wish proxxon could launch a sub brand for hobbyists with affordable prices
Yes agreed, the prices are certainly eye-watering for some. There are options (see the Minicraft film) for those on a budget, but these are definitely something aspirational or to get one day, if budget allows.
Too bad it isn't available in 115V, seems to be only in 230V. Not very handy for modelers who don't have 230V. Hopefully they come out with a 115V model down the road.
That company is great!
They certainly are.
Joke price, sorry. I have both the Proxxon mini table saw and their foam cutting machine, but I think I'll stick to a good knife for stuff like this.
Proxxon is like Vevor for rich people.
I'd say Vevor is for folks who...I don't know...fill me in.
@@scalewarmachines Vevor is for people on a budget. The majority of us are.
I used to buy budget tools (I'm talking DIY/home renovation/automotive not modelling), I'm done with that. I don't want cheap feeble rubbish anymore and I buy the best tools I can, Dewalt, Knippex, Proxxon etc., even if that means I have to save up or pay them off. I'm done with tat, I like tools that are well made and are a joy to use. Same with my airbrushes and spray guns. Proxxon is pricey for sure, but as I say in the film, the cheaper sonic cutter clones aren't really that cheap. Either way, nothing but good experiences with Proxxon in my experience, so far. I don't use Vevor for obvious reasons given what I say above. I have one or two Amazon Basics tools, Lidl and Aldi, those are good and had good reviews, but are often rebranded from people like Bosch or Sheppach (European tool brands and supermarkets). One or twonew-comer competitor brands from China have impressed me, like Gaahleri airbrushes, but most items are cheap and nasty.
This is 20 + year old technology. This is a modified tool from the dental industry. Tech takes way too long to get into an affordable, practical, consumer applicational product !
Considering the amount of absolute junk out there, it's fair to say that Proxxon, while not cheap is well worth the money.
Agreed.
5:28 - 😳😳😳
Yeah, great tool...for the elite.
Who can afford these tools! Going to have to wait years till they cone close to affordable for the builders who can barley afford the kits alone these days! Greedy bastards.
There are alternatives, the cheapest I found was $259 on Amazon, so even the Chinese clones aren't cheap. So, the pricing needs to come down generally, I'd say, for the average user to be tempted. You pay the price you think is right and you get your dues. What do you think is a fair price? $150 dollars? 50 dollars? I reckon 300 dollars/euros, might be about right for a brand like Proxxon, but I don't have to run a tool business!
@@scalewarmachines
$259 is still way over my budget. 100 to 150 is about my range. Got a mortgage to pay and one has to eat and put gas in the car. Why do they overprice their products? Because they can.
@@angelohernandez6060 production in Europe is not as cheap as China.
One the price - yes, expensive. But only the equivalent of 2-3 low price Tamiya RC kits or one of their more pricey ones.
Or the equivalent of 3-4 kit hauls from my usual suppliers.
It's an expensive solution to a non-existent problem. Plus, remember he is sponsored by this company, so of course he will give it high marks.
Just to clarify, I’m not sponsored. I’m merely collaborating with a brand I greatly admire. You’re obviously right, you don’t need to have a tool like this if you don’t want it and I say that. I would suggest you try it if you get the chance to, as it’s quite interesting and roadtesting it is essential. I certainly wouldn’t suggest you spend 400 euros without trying a tool first.
I have been model making for over 50 years, I've a myriad of precision hand tools etc BUT, I'm aging and now have disabilities, tools like this could help me in therapeutic endeavours such as model making. Age and reduced ability/disability comes to everyone, sooner or later. So don't knock innovation. Hopefully prices will reduce over time too💜✌️👍😊🤞
If you have any mobility issues in your hands, or arthritic problems, I imagine this could be a god send. Effortless to use.
It makes you wonder why Proxxon can’t make their own videos when considering how much cash they make from their expensive tools.
@@scalewarmachines 👍👍🤞🤞🙏🙏✌️✌️💜💜😊😊
In other words it's a mini oscillating tool.
Nice tool but way to expensive. Must say though that Proxxon tools are very good and they are not made in China.
I'd be afraid that I'd accidentally hit myself with the blade and open myself up badly.
any discount codes?
No discount code, it's purely to get the product out there and increase awareness. We didn't want to muddy the water too much with codes etc.
They got this idea from this old Tony who built one a few years ago
Yep. Quite a bargain. I’m getting old. That’s $300 less than my first car. For crying out loud! No end of the “inflation” con, eh? That said, no doubt justified by someone with too much money.
True, but a slight addendum, nowadays that's just one month's rental on a leased Ford Mustang EV you don't even own. I know which I'd rather have!
@@scalewarmachines LOL. Odd you mention Mustang. My first, the $800 car was a used 1966 Fastback Mustang 289 2+2. I know which I’d rather have too!
Amen to that!
Err, Luxembourg is NOT in Germany...
It has two locations. Lux and de.
@@scalewarmachines That ma be, but it is not what you said.
At 05:12 I said "their factory and their headquarters are in Luxembourg and Germany". Which is correct. For your information, their HQ is in Luxembourg, their factory is in Germany. Listen properly and you'll hear I say "and", as I know they are two separate countries! Although admittedly it may sound like "in" if you aren't paying attention.
Another Proxxon tool that looks interesting until I see the nice. That is way too much to save me a bit of time with some decent side-nippers and a razor saw.
From an engineering side, what on earth is in the base unit - not the power supply because it clearly has an external PSU, and the piezo vibrator has got to be in the hand unit -so what on earth in the base unit, probably very little, I suspect it is little more than a tool holder.
You should pay 400 euros and buy one, then take it apart and tell
us! I dare you. Maybe there are rare unicorn crystals within, hence the price.
@@scalewarmachines It would be interesting I agree, but I just can’t imagine there is much in it. It is almost as if they originally intended the PSU to be inside but changed their mind. I have seen what is inside ultrasonic cleaners (which I imagine is pretty much the same technology) and it is the power supply an the transducer and that is about it - the only other electronics is for the timers and the display.
Looks like it’s just a stand really.
Luxemburg is a very small European country 😅
5:15, free hearing test, “and” or “in”.
LoL ..He lost me at 400€.
Nah, I'll wait until Aldi do one for £12.95.
I'm sure I'm not the first or last to say it's a stupidly expensive tool. Wait a few years and you'll be able to get them cheaper from temu
😩 Really,...Luxembourg,...If you are so giddy about Proxxon, at least check your Europe map beforehand.
Hearing test, 5:15. “And” not “in”. Get your ears checked.
Luxembourg is NOT in Germany. Get your act together.
Listen more carefully at 5:15, I said "and" Germany, not "in". Get your ears checked. And don't be so RUDE Peter Crossley!
the handle is too thick, would not buy it.
What a scam for an overpriced piece of junk.
"high-end tool manufacturer Proxxon" - what a joke. Only high-end thing on proxxon is their green paint.
Definitely high-end. You are maybe in the AliExpress tool fraternity? Bro, I can order that on Temu for like 3 bucks.
I got proxxon toons that cost 20x as much as this vibrating knife.. pretty much china quality, yes. A lathe that twists when changing z feeding direction, a mill that you can't tram, etc.. it's funny that you mention - but half of proxxon products are rebranded china products as you can get the exactly same product for 1/2 price (only difference is plastic color).
yadda, yadda
400€ ? 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣👎👎👎👎👎👎