The Turks had competitions similar to that. There were tests of skill, where an archer is supposed to penetrate an iron bell with an arrow. Or shoot out the bottom of a glass cup, without shattering it. True skill if you ask me 😁
I know right, I read something about them stating they had osteophytes in their elbows, fingers, shoulders, and had extremely enlarged forearms from shooting these insane bows. They were literally fucking yoked with bone deformation and chronic pain from being, in short, absolute mad lads.
@@neonblack6 the mongol horse archers where seen as abominations by the chinese when they were out of armour. skeletal and muscular "deformation" caused by archery since the age of 4
@@stevewilliams2895 what kind of psychopathic world do you live in? I'm 6' and 235 and have a small beer paunch. Not every man is a stringy little weiner. There are those of us built with larger pieces.
@@aguspuig6615 more like 60-100 for a medieval longbow/warbow which was common. (most scale recreations based on medieval artifacts end up under 100lbs draw weight) 200 is a super uncommon heavy longbow/warbow, and is why he is doing heavy longbow training to push himself further. Even after over a decade of training his way up the bow strength tiers. (He started when he was 14) He is actually on par with the current world record holding longbowman who claimed the record Mark Stretton of the UK. (200lbs is the record to date so he might want to contact Guinness. It was last updated in 2004 when Mark blew the previous holders 170lb pull out of the water.)
@@aeviwright7846 Noo, not according to the warbows found on board the Mary Rose. The bows found on the Mary Rose were found to have an average draw weight that is estimated to be 160lbs @ 30 inches of draw. The spread of draw weights from the bows was between 100-185 lbs @ 30 inches. I personally doubt that anyone in the medieval time period, was drawing a 200lb bow on the field. Ever. I think the 185 and any heavier bows, were used just as Joe Gibbs is demonstrating here: A training bow. A bow to help you build strength and capability, to be able to use a ~160 lb bow, effectively, in battle.
always makes me laugh when they draw bows in movies and then just stand there for 5 minutes. You're either the hulk or have ripped your shoulder out of the joint and destroyed it forever
@@Fabianwew No need. It's not an advantage in target competition and for hunting you get more than enough kinetic energy from a 70# compound to hunt any game in the world.
When hunting or going to war you use a bow half the strength of the heaviest bow you are able to pull. Gotta be able to perform when it matters and not get tired too easily...
Hi Joe do you think its easier to draw a slightly heavier draw weight bow at slightly less your max draw or slight lighter bow at slightly more draw length (for example 180lbs @ 28" or 170lbs @29")
@@HistoricalWeapons a 28" draw on me doesn't touch me face. string to chin touch is 30.. 33" squared thumb and 36" bladed 28" was the pull that the back of my wrist on chin which is similar to a Comanche draw on me, to the chest. its far easier pulling that high weight to that position. i also used you drawing method to get it, so thanks. i failed it trying the english way.
@@HistoricalWeapons from what i can find and see and asked from the likes of Totoalharist Alharist, i have the unofficial WR im doing it with bands right now. id like to get a 220lbs at 28" bow just to make it official. im just short on cash flow. i just bought a new bow, and deposited for another. i pull one 170 like its 50. reps of 10 set of three. i only started yesterday. but i was pulling 135 war bows from day one archery, at hte same time ive never pulled more than that up until yesterday. i feel i can hit 300 with practice i can also multiple reps with 5second holds between with 220. dont get me wrong this morning i could barely pull 170. but thats normal. today ive been reping 120-150 for 10x for 5second holds, treating it like powerlifting
The amount of energy Joe expends drawing that 200 lbf longbow is equivalent to the muzzle energy of a .380 ACP pistol round. And even the lighter-drawing 160 lbf bow requires a draw energy about equivalent to a .32 ACP pistol round. These bows are serious performers, especially in the hands of Joe Gibbs.
@@tbrowniscool yeah but, that arrow wont fly anywhere near as far as a bullet, and it wont have anywhere near the accuracy, or fire rate, or consistency, or speed
@@banaana1234 Now that'd be an interesting experiment. We know bows would be less accurate vs any rifle, but how does it hold up with a pistol at lets say 20 meters? Speaking from experience, I'd say I shoot better with a bow at 20m, than a pistol. Then again, I shoot way more often with a bow.
Hey Joe, how about making a video with some extremly big and strong guys, like bodybuilders or strongmen and see how do they perform when drawing heavy weight long bows? There are many RUclips channels where they make this kind of tests, but none yet about bows. Coming to mind right now would be for example Jujimufu (he's nice and does that kind of video with many European athletes) or maybe Haddy Hall (British as well). Thanks and cheers!
Being big muscular guy doesn't mean that they got muscle groups requerd for pulling this monstrosities. Wanting them to do that is only asking for trouble sadly.
@@dusanbursac5012 Well it would then be interesting to see that even if they are overall much stronger and bigger framed, they couldn't perform such a specific task.
Jesus mate, there's a term here in Australia "got muscles in his shit" and I think that pretty much sums you up to a tee. I'm shooting 85#@30 hoping to eventually get to 120, you're an absolute machine :)
You're behind, im 29 and pulling 100lbs already, my plan is to plateu for the next 4 years, by 35 my muscles plus muscle memory will be just on point along with stamina to get started on climbing to 200lbs... 100lbs is pretty straining after 30-45min...
@@gmaldccorganicfarms Not that it's a competition but it appears you've misinterpreted, I'm only 25, I'm shooting 85# at 30 inches, everyone learns to walk at a different age. I'm impressed though, what training do you do outside of just drawing your bow? I've recently started adding a resistance band over my bow like shown here.
@@rshaart4810 totally misunderstood that, 🤣😂. Yeah you'll get there I was doing 85lbs early last year, it's not that much more... My main arm workouts are sets of pullups and arm curls with 45-50lb bells...
guys i understand you with this obssesion of high poundage aka "My balls are bigger than yours".... but you must not ONLY ABLE TO PULL, but aswell shoot with accuracy and consistancy around 150 arrows daily!!! To avoid injures i follow what all gym trainers says - "if you pull your own weight with both arms it is good". I am 224 pounds weight, i can pull up 10 times on horizontal bar. To avoid injures to elbow ( Joe Gibs has his bow hand elbow BANDAGED ALREADY!) and joints i would not take more that MY_WEIGHT/2 = 112 lbs bow. So with an appropriate training i can shoot it 4-6 days/week for at least 200 arrows daily. Dont GET INJURED! Before going high poundage train your elbows and joints, good tip - armrestling exercises! They work fine to get our hand ready for high poundage bows. From Russia with a bow )
Yeah, I tried pulling back my 45# recurve yesterday, I could do it fairly well, but my elbow popped and snapped the whole time, then it hurt afterwards. :(
Hiya Joe been following your videos for the past few weeks. Very impressive. I've been making and shooting bows for only 4 years,I'm now upto 105lb wychelm bow at the age of 48.thanks for the inspiration Joe. Mathew.Crow Valley Longbows
@@W.edgewargames wow i thought greenfeild was far, i just took a look at the map. closest i think i've ever been is when i go to GCC. looks nice; lots of trees reminds me of NH a bit.
@@slinkerdeer yeaaa, but as he has told, he can shoot 150lbs bow for some time, and imagine archers in those times, who shoot bows all their life, they where prty tough
been shooting slings since i was 8 they are properly powerful i use lead sea fishing weights for ammo they punch straight through corregated sheet metal
Here from Tod's workshop, now a subscriber - brilliant stuff! As an ex powerlifter, used to deadlifting 600lbs - 150lbs is about my draw-limit! I can't believe how strong you are mate, what the hell!
Christ! I thought deadlift was a discipline which could translate easily over to longbow... 600lb deadlift is huge and you're pulling 'only' 150? 200+ much be absolutely ridiculous haha Best wishes
Another awesome video Proves it can be done with time effort and pushing through the pain barrier and comfort zone. You’re an inspiration to the warbow community joe
Hi Joe, I think its wonderful the energy your putting in and time taken to share. I havnt picked a bow up in years. But its nice to drop in and see what others are doing Now sub'd 👍
Love to watch you Joe. I've noticed you have changed from the low draw that you did years ago, to the high draw. Do you find this makes your back muscles work better, pulling downwards? I've only shot as heavy as 90#, but found that the high draw was much easier for me. Total respect for hauling that beast back.
Having shot a 60 pound bow since I was young and finding it a challenge to maintain accuracy even at that draw weight, Mr Gibbs skills are impressive indeed.
Hey Joe, quick series of questions here: Do you think medieval bowmen would have done some sort of warmup like you do? Obviously not with resistance bands, but do you think that they naturally would have understood the need to be limber so they wouldn't pull a muscle in battle? Or would they have just shot through the pain in the heat of battle? Is there even any evidence of something like that or no?
Great video! What model is your finger tab?? And do you have any advice for shoulder pain of bowhand during the draw? It is because I have wrong technique?
It makes me wonder if archers during the time period had accidents with sliceing their ear off or like flaying their forearm with such a high energy bow.
Haha well they wouldn't use such a heavy bow until they had been training every day for like a decade and were expert archers, so they probably wouldn't slice their ear off by then.
@@Immortal__ literally practising from the age of "they can hold a bow" until at 14 being able to accurately shoot a 160lb bow. The law said, "Archery on a Sunday", and every man had to go to the common to partake. Kids pulling bows that heavy leads to large muscles (but lopsided) and those large muscles restrain the bones from growing as long as they otherwise would.
Joerg sent me. I'm now subscribed. (For the shooting, although the workouts are a concept I wouldn't have imagined until now. Yes, I'm obviously not an archer.)
Hey Joe! I've been having a look at Shadiversity's videos about knocking the arrow on the right side of the bow. I'm sure you're aware of the bickering online now on wether or not warbow archers knocked on the left or the right. My technique for pulling is very similar to yours, and with a 165lbs bow, there is no way I can balance the arrow on the right, but maybe I'm also not training like the did back then. My own take on this is that people would knock the arrow on whatever side they felt natural, and that in the experience of the people I know who pull actual heavy warbows (not just 80-110lbs) knocking on the right is way more tricky and an unnescesary handicap. You have any thoughts on this? As one of the few people being able to draw 200lbs and above, I think your opinion on the matter is rather relevant. Greetings from a norwegian warbow archer;) (got my bows from Daniel, believe he has made a couple of yours too)
Came across your film by chance. It's great to see the passion you have for Archery. I've got to ask though, have you ever let one go over the fence at the end of your garden ? I can't imagine your neighbours sunbath much.😁
Hey Joe I last saw u at the Weald n dwn land medieval thing like 15yrs ago? U were shooting 100lbs all day (u got the French knight full in the face in the ‘rain of arrows’ bit at the end) glad to c ur still keeping it alive. Respect.
It'd have to be the very last resort as wood bows must be looked after very carefully. Hitting anything hard would ruin the bow & next time it was shot it would likely break. When they break, it's unbelievably violent, more like an explosion.
a native tribe did that with their bows to some spanish soldiers fought natives bows where so heavy the spanish could not draw them so one Account said once they're done shooting their arrows they bash you with their bows it could make a man bleed under his helmet
Amazing pulling power I have been shooting the Longbow for over 40 years .And can see that power in the technique you use What distance can you shoot the arrow at full draw?Enjoyed watching you pulling those Longbows Back.Thank you.
So, do you every switch side occasionally? I know some track runners occasionally run the opposite way on track training in order to even things out. Only during off season, but still. Even track training will put different strain on your legs when turning and it will eventually make a difference due to assymetric stresses during training. This should make a much bigger impact. So do you ever switch side to even things out?
210 bow with a giant redwood for an arrow!! 😳 You can certainly see you’ve practiced most of your life....I bet you started as a 12 year old kid and worked up ever since....awesome
Hey Joe, I think it’s great you’re putting these out! What does all this training make you think about weights that were actually being used in in the Middle Ages?
Hi Drew thanks for you comments. I think 150lbs was average nothing special at all and people shooting 180-200 very achievable for strong healthy guys. I'm doing these vids to try and get the average of bow weights up. Its been increasing slowly for the past 10 years. But it would be good to get more people shooting 150lbs. The last 5 years has seen a few more people shooting over 140 lbs. So theres maybe about 5 in England who can shoot this weight all day. Thanks joe
@@Joegibbs-archery Thanks Joe. I suppose that makes sense. Since you seem to be the strongest amongst us modern archers, I would think you would still be considered pretty impressive back in the day. Especially considering you have access to all the advantages modern knowledge affords regarding things like diet and training regimes. If even you can only perform a handful of reps @200 lbs, I find it a little bit hard to believe anyone would go into battle with a 200 lb bow in the past, even those who were exceptionally strong. But if you think so, who the hell am I to question! Thanks again.
@@dgriswold93 Hi Drew mate. I dont think I would have been anything special back in the day. No you right with saying they wouldn't have gone in to battle with a 200lbs longbow. I ment some would have been able to handle bows of 200lbs but in a battle situation you would want a bow that was comfortable. So in battle bows of 130-170lbs. If I was going in to battle I would take a 150@30. Comfortable and fast. Cheers mate.
Hiya again Joe, after reading one of your comments about getting more people to shoot bows of 150 lbs + as I'm on 105lb my mission is to eventually shoot at least 105lb. As I'm from Gwent.I'm sure I can get there.I'm currently working on another bow of wych elm.cheers.Mathew.Crow Valley Longbows.
Joe Gibbs awesome video! I had an argument with my history teacher in college, he was saying that over bows over 100 lbs was not something regular archers could really achieve back then. I was 16 at the time of the conversation and was shooting (not very accurately) a 80lbs warbow. Thank you for confirming my thoughts!
Hey Joe, do you ever happen to do dumbbell rows? If you do, do you happen to know your max and If not than what sets, reps and weight? I'm more dedicated to lifting but I've been into archery since my young teenage years and while I've never even seen a bow that heavy, I could draw a 100lbs bowtech like nothing when a guy at the club brought one in, although when I took off my release and finger shot it... That was a lot harder haha. Still, I'm curious as to how quickly I could get to the point where I could draw the 200 pounder a couple times since my body is pretty much built to pull. Maybe if I ever go on a safari I'll start working my way up to the big boys but until then I'll stick with my measly 80# compound. Anyways this is impressive as all hell mate, thanks for sharing.
i have a question, do bows "loosen up" because of the pulling? like the more you pull the less the force you have to make to shoot an arrow because the wood is used to that
Most start at 30 pounds and most train technique and accuracy with 40 to 60 pound bows. Mate of mine can draw 170 all day but mainly practices with his 55 pound bow.
Immediate subscription! @ReonMagnum spoke highly of your channel, and you don't disappoint good sir. May you and all of your viewers/ followers stay safe, healthy, and doing amazing ( Presumably archery-based things! ) Until things look better. Also! The arms, shoulders and core strength on this guy, to draw a bow like this.
I'm 48, just starting out in traditional archery. The weight of the bows you fire are mind-boggling, I can barely manage a handful of shots from my 40lb haha
For anyone who did not notice, watch the bycet munscle on the right arm Its a dead giveaway of a regular archer, they all have very good shoulder blades and upper arm muscle dont forget, the normal shoot is 144 arrows in an afternoon.
Reminds me of the bows where you sit down and use both arms and legs to shoot. With no let off how long can one aim such a bow? Can you hunt with such a heavy draw, because at close range the exertion alone will blow your cover, and at long range the target will hear and maybe see the arrow coming? But it is still a great display of strength for a non-climber.
Sir... one question.... How did they managed to use long bow in streets or places like that .... it would be pretty tough eh? ... Did the english men had any shorter variables of bow
Depending on range, a speed shooter would already have three arrows inside their target before he even drew that beast of a bow. If longer, then the fella with a longbow may have a upperhand in range, but probably not accuracy so much?
you are one of the best bowmen pulling high weights whom I have ever seen in my entire life. I would like to see you shooting at a 3d target distance 80 yards with one of your favourite bows. Greetings from Germany......
Fell in love with archery the first time I got to shoot a bow for 45 minutes. Never felt so grounded and happy. Had sore muscles the next days. Immediately ordered my own bow, though. It just arrived and has 30 lbs. I feel like it's twice the amount I had while test shooting, I can barely get the string to my chin and got a very shakey grip hand. So much fun though. Love this sport, it's super meditative, relaxing, exciting, never felt so happy after a sports activity. Now I just gotta get used to 30 lbs draw or buy a second bow after shooting 5 arrows already xD Respect for drawing 210 lbs Oô Oô oô
I make these flatbows apart from one of them. I make and sell heavy flatbows contact me for details at hillbillybows@gmail.com or fine me on face book. Hillbillybows
I am seriously wondering, how do you string that 200 pound bow? I'm having trouble stringing an 80 pound bow at this point in time (admittedly haven't been shooting for a a few years now).
King Henry V: "Let us rain Gods holy hailfire on those wretched toadeaters!" Constable of the Longbowmen: "Just a minute Sire, the men need to warm up first..."
Mate, careful so you don't miss your target or that arrow could fly straight cross the pond and start another one of them wars with France.
Sven The Destroyer:😂👌🏽
Maybe he was aiming at the Oirish
*British warmonger nobility* : Do it!!
But this time you would have to fight the whole of the E.U. ;) WE(!!!) are there for each other! :)
Unlike you :D :D :D
Vive l'europe!
@@kintarooe7745 Wouldn't count on it..
Guy is in great shape and has expert technique. Never know when you may need to shoot thru an armored car.
😂😂 nice
But ist wouldn't go threw an armored Car 😅😅
Nemo thank you for being that guy
@@Cambria358 No problem 😅
It had to be!
Nemo that was sarcasm
@@Cambria358
I know 😂
Anybody else from JoergSprave?
Heh heh heh!
I hope Joe sends him a bow.
itsDeathHD Gaming yup
let's give him the "Instant Joe Gibbs"
This is Thrand have done a few collabs with Joerg :D
He looks like he's gonna knock me off the roof in anor londo.
Yep, I trained those boys well
just parry his ass
Thats made my fucking day
@@avatar94100 This isn't Mordhau, you can't parry arrows.
I wasn't prepared for this one
Mate I just wish warbow shooting was an Olympic sport, like maybe for penetration depth or accuracy at 150 lbs 30 meters
this could be made possible if England revives longbow education for everyone
That will be AWsome..
heavy archery used to be a sport with the Manchus, the style im practicing
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 Technically its still law.
The Turks had competitions similar to that. There were tests of skill, where an archer is supposed to penetrate an iron bell with an arrow. Or shoot out the bottom of a glass cup, without shattering it. True skill if you ask me 😁
Video games: archers are weak and can be easily slaughtered by melee troops
Joe Gibbs: *laughs in longbow*
I know right, I read something about them stating they had osteophytes in their elbows, fingers, shoulders, and had extremely enlarged forearms from shooting these insane bows. They were literally fucking yoked with bone deformation and chronic pain from being, in short, absolute mad lads.
@@neonblack6 the mongol horse archers where seen as abominations by the chinese when they were out of armour.
skeletal and muscular "deformation" caused by archery since the age of 4
longbowman*
Strength on the battlefield is decided by weapons, armour and skill with those weapons. You think swordsmen were slouches?
@@AlphaRapax if this is against the original post, he was making a joke about how video games show archers to be poor melee combatants
3:39 mfw I see a frenchman 200 yards away.
2 kilos you mean
Are you that full of hatred towards french mans xD
I pull 240 lbs every time I have to get out out of my car.
Hit the gym m8 xD
@@unai_asecas9070 Assuming he's a full grown man depending on his height that's not fat.
@@stevewilliams2895 6'5 240 isn't hard to achive in muscle
@@stevewilliams2895 what kind of psychopathic world do you live in?
I'm 6' and 235 and have a small beer paunch.
Not every man is a stringy little weiner. There are those of us built with larger pieces.
@@jonathanrivera8938 You're fat as fuck. 70 pounds overweight.
The dimensions of that bow are almost cartoonish.
lock picking lawyer.
looks a bit like a broom stick
Looks like a fucking beam
A bow is not a proper bow unless you can beat someone to death with it.
Who put a string on my quarterstaff?!
Neighbors: "Hey look at this girly man stretching an elastic band for his workout. What a wuss."
Joe:
Neighbors: "Holy f*ck, bring the dog in."
Normal archer: So where is the balista you mount that bow on?
Joe: Proceeds to add a training band to the bow and draws it by hand.
Normal archer: o.0
Chuck Norris dual wields a pair of those, and pulls the strings with his feet! That´s right, he defies gravity!
@@Biden_is_demented No, Chuck Norris wills the strings to pull and they obey.
funny and all but in the middle ages most archers could pull that, in the moder world do its a rare acomplishment to see
@@aguspuig6615 more like 60-100 for a medieval longbow/warbow which was common. (most scale recreations based on medieval artifacts end up under 100lbs draw weight) 200 is a super uncommon heavy longbow/warbow, and is why he is doing heavy longbow training to push himself further. Even after over a decade of training his way up the bow strength tiers. (He started when he was 14) He is actually on par with the current world record holding longbowman who claimed the record Mark Stretton of the UK. (200lbs is the record to date so he might want to contact Guinness. It was last updated in 2004 when Mark blew the previous holders 170lb pull out of the water.)
@@aeviwright7846 Noo, not according to the warbows found on board the Mary Rose. The bows found on the Mary Rose were found to have an average draw weight that is estimated to be 160lbs @ 30 inches of draw. The spread of draw weights from the bows was between 100-185 lbs @ 30 inches. I personally doubt that anyone in the medieval time period, was drawing a 200lb bow on the field. Ever. I think the 185 and any heavier bows, were used just as Joe Gibbs is demonstrating here: A training bow. A bow to help you build strength and capability, to be able to use a ~160 lb bow, effectively, in battle.
always makes me laugh when they draw bows in movies and then just stand there for 5 minutes. You're either the hulk or have ripped your shoulder out of the joint and destroyed it forever
Modern bows have almost no poundage.
@@Fabianwew No need. It's not an advantage in target competition and for hunting you get more than enough kinetic energy from a 70# compound to hunt any game in the world.
When hunting or going to war you use a bow half the strength of the heaviest bow you are able to pull. Gotta be able to perform when it matters and not get tired too easily...
@@stoutlager6325The advantage is more killing power at a longer distance, don't be a retard.
Meanwhile in hollywood :"Hey let's give this tiny girl a bow, that sounds like a great idea."
Not every bow takes 200 lbs to draw mate. 40-50 lbs bows are pretty common for hunting, and anyone with a bit of training can draw those
@@gavaudan2131 not like they depict in movies they cant....
@@k9px 90% of what they show in movies about medieval weapons, armor and fighting is wrong anyways
@@gavaudan2131 Try 99.9%
Gavaudan la bete
You are my inspiration. I currently pull 140lbs @32" and I am working towards 200lbs in the next year. Would be glad to be mentored
Hi Joe do you think its easier to draw a slightly heavier draw weight bow at slightly less your max draw or slight lighter bow at slightly more draw length (for example 180lbs @ 28" or 170lbs @29")
@@HistoricalWeapons heavier at less draw is easier on the body. im the guy that pull 250
@@Bowbro69 that entirely depends. 250@22? 250@26? 250@32? Of course there’s a sweet spot
@@HistoricalWeapons a 28" draw on me doesn't touch me face. string to chin touch is 30.. 33" squared thumb and 36" bladed
28" was the pull that the back of my wrist on chin which is similar to a Comanche draw on me, to the chest. its far easier pulling that high weight to that position. i also used you drawing method to get it, so thanks. i failed it trying the english way.
@@HistoricalWeapons from what i can find and see and asked from the likes of
Totoalharist Alharist, i have the unofficial WR im doing it with bands right now. id like to get a 220lbs at 28" bow just to make it official. im just short on cash flow. i just bought a new bow, and deposited for another. i pull one 170 like its 50. reps of 10 set of three. i only started yesterday. but i was pulling 135 war bows from day one archery, at hte same time ive never pulled more than that up until yesterday. i feel i can hit 300 with practice
i can also multiple reps with 5second holds between with 220.
dont get me wrong this morning i could barely pull 170. but thats normal. today ive been reping 120-150 for 10x for 5second holds, treating it like powerlifting
The amount of energy Joe expends drawing that 200 lbf longbow is equivalent to the muzzle energy of a .380 ACP pistol round. And even the lighter-drawing 160 lbf bow requires a draw energy about equivalent to a .32 ACP pistol round. These bows are serious performers, especially in the hands of Joe Gibbs.
Wow, that's nuts.
@@SaturnReturns Yep and an arrow weighs so much more, energy the same but you can stick a broadhead on an arrow!
@@tbrowniscool yeah but, that arrow wont fly anywhere near as far as a bullet, and it wont have anywhere near the accuracy, or fire rate, or consistency, or speed
@@AverageAlien TBH pistols arent easy to shoot accurately even at short ranges. Joe is pretty damn accurate with a bow
@@banaana1234 Now that'd be an interesting experiment.
We know bows would be less accurate vs any rifle, but how does it hold up with a pistol at lets say 20 meters?
Speaking from experience, I'd say I shoot better with a bow at 20m, than a pistol.
Then again, I shoot way more often with a bow.
Hey Joe, how about making a video with some extremly big and strong guys, like bodybuilders or strongmen and see how do they perform when drawing heavy weight long bows?
There are many RUclips channels where they make this kind of tests, but none yet about bows.
Coming to mind right now would be for example Jujimufu (he's nice and does that kind of video with many European athletes) or maybe Haddy Hall (British as well).
Thanks and cheers!
Being big muscular guy doesn't mean that they got muscle groups requerd for pulling this monstrosities. Wanting them to do that is only asking for trouble sadly.
@@dusanbursac5012 Well it would then be interesting to see that even if they are overall much stronger and bigger framed, they couldn't perform such a specific task.
I would think Jujimufu would take this challenge.
@D B you too?
@@dusanbursac5012 asking for trouble? why?
Jesus mate, there's a term here in Australia "got muscles in his shit" and I think that pretty much sums you up to a tee. I'm shooting 85#@30 hoping to eventually get to 120, you're an absolute machine :)
Ha! In England we say you'll be pissing muscles if u keep that up!
You're behind, im 29 and pulling 100lbs already, my plan is to plateu for the next 4 years, by 35 my muscles plus muscle memory will be just on point along with stamina to get started on climbing to 200lbs... 100lbs is pretty straining after 30-45min...
@@gmaldccorganicfarms Not that it's a competition but it appears you've misinterpreted, I'm only 25, I'm shooting 85# at 30 inches, everyone learns to walk at a different age.
I'm impressed though, what training do you do outside of just drawing your bow? I've recently started adding a resistance band over my bow like shown here.
@@rshaart4810 totally misunderstood that, 🤣😂. Yeah you'll get there I was doing 85lbs early last year, it's not that much more... My main arm workouts are sets of pullups and arm curls with 45-50lb bells...
guys i understand you with this obssesion of high poundage aka "My balls are bigger than yours".... but you must not ONLY ABLE TO PULL, but aswell shoot with accuracy and consistancy around 150 arrows daily!!!
To avoid injures i follow what all gym trainers says - "if you pull your own weight with both arms it is good". I am 224 pounds weight, i can pull up 10 times on horizontal bar. To avoid injures to elbow ( Joe Gibs has his bow hand elbow BANDAGED ALREADY!) and joints i would not take more that MY_WEIGHT/2 = 112 lbs bow. So with an appropriate training i can shoot it 4-6 days/week for at least 200 arrows daily.
Dont GET INJURED! Before going high poundage train your elbows and joints, good tip - armrestling exercises! They work fine to get our hand ready for high poundage bows.
From Russia with a bow )
3:35 That's me trying to pull my 50 pound bow the first time.
Yeah, I tried pulling back my 45# recurve yesterday, I could do it fairly well, but my elbow popped and snapped the whole time, then it hurt afterwards. :(
Aahahaha!! Properly lolling
Vindictus lmao
Let's just take a moment to appreciate the size of the wood part on the 200lb longbow
Hiya Joe been following your videos for the past few weeks. Very impressive. I've been making and shooting bows for only 4 years,I'm now upto 105lb wychelm bow at the age of 48.thanks for the inspiration Joe.
Mathew.Crow Valley Longbows
So, should I watch for falling arrows here in Connecticut? Damn son!
Arrows my ass, those are tree's he's shooting from that ballista, he'll make western Massachusetts with the 200#
@@W.edgewargames Amherst. not the rich part of it btw. hahaha
@@jonahi1304 neighbors by 90 minutes 😆
@@W.edgewargames wow i thought greenfeild was far, i just took a look at the map. closest i think i've ever been is when i go to GCC. looks nice; lots of trees reminds me of NH a bit.
@@jonahi1304 it's beautiful and peaceful
I'm just watching some bloke bloke draw some stiff bows
Afterwards....he pruned his Roses.
And spitting on his hands a lot too...
He is such a beast :D can you imagine like hundred of man like him, standing on a clif with 200lb bows pouring arrows with such deadly power..
@Abu Troll al cockroachistan not realy :D there surtenly is something that they started using bows instead ;)
Except a bow like that saps your energy far too quickly to be viable in a battle
@@slinkerdeer yeaaa, but as he has told, he can shoot 150lbs bow for some time, and imagine archers in those times, who shoot bows all their life, they where prty tough
That would never happen since they'd all probably be exhausted after three arrows.
been shooting slings since i was 8 they are properly powerful i use lead sea fishing weights for ammo they punch straight through corregated sheet metal
Here from Tod's workshop, now a subscriber - brilliant stuff! As an ex powerlifter, used to deadlifting 600lbs - 150lbs is about my draw-limit! I can't believe how strong you are mate, what the hell!
Thanks👍. Years of shooting heavy bows mate lol
Christ! I thought deadlift was a discipline which could translate easily over to longbow... 600lb deadlift is huge and you're pulling 'only' 150? 200+ much be absolutely ridiculous haha
Best wishes
It's Odysseus! You're an absolute mad man. I am genuinely scared of the power you hold.
Another awesome video
Proves it can be done with time effort and pushing through the pain barrier and comfort zone.
You’re an inspiration to the warbow community joe
Just call it #200😲, great to watch Joe. It perfectly illustrates the time and effort you put into your art form. Fantastic. Thanks for sharing ✌
Hi Joe,
I think its wonderful the energy your putting in and time taken to share.
I havnt picked a bow up in years. But its nice to drop in and see what others are doing
Now sub'd 👍
Henry VII would be proud.
So would Henry V especially at agincourt
Edward lll.
Why was this in the recommended feed?
Edit: Never mind he is a longbow archer
I'm another warbow Archer if you want to check out
@@HistoricalWeapons ha ha I checked your channel out just to realise that I had you in my recommended feed yesterday
Love to watch you Joe. I've noticed you have changed from the low draw that you did years ago, to the high draw. Do you find this makes your back muscles work better, pulling downwards? I've only shot as heavy as 90#, but found that the high draw was much easier for me. Total respect for hauling that beast back.
Team up with JoergSprav he wants to build you a instant Robin Hood . Be amazing to see.
This is a view into medieval history. So perfect. The archers would be doing this.
Having shot a 60 pound bow since I was young and finding it a challenge to maintain accuracy even at that draw weight, Mr Gibbs skills are impressive indeed.
Same, saw you on Tods workshop - awesome pulling. Very impressive!
the force on that hit is amazing!
Hey Joe, quick series of questions here: Do you think medieval bowmen would have done some sort of warmup like you do? Obviously not with resistance bands, but do you think that they naturally would have understood the need to be limber so they wouldn't pull a muscle in battle? Or would they have just shot through the pain in the heat of battle? Is there even any evidence of something like that or no?
Essentially this dude just did a one armed pullup and a one armed dip simultaneously with a 40 lb vest on.
What a great skill ✅
- love your dedication 👌🏼
Great video!
What model is your finger tab??
And do you have any advice for shoulder pain of bowhand during the draw? It is because I have wrong technique?
hey Joe, where are you going with that bow in your hand (lute filling)...
LOL!!! XD
It makes me wonder if archers during the time period had accidents with sliceing their ear off or like flaying their forearm with such a high energy bow.
Haha well they wouldn't use such a heavy bow until they had been training every day for like a decade and were expert archers, so they probably wouldn't slice their ear off by then.
Some of them had deformed bones from shooting bows like this all their life
@@fungus2116
Deformed as in calcified (dense and strong because of the regular forces) ?
@@Immortal__ literally practising from the age of "they can hold a bow" until at 14 being able to accurately shoot a 160lb bow. The law said, "Archery on a Sunday", and every man had to go to the common to partake.
Kids pulling bows that heavy leads to large muscles (but lopsided) and those large muscles restrain the bones from growing as long as they otherwise would.
@@NigelTolley there were Mongol archers that were called abominations because of how they looked outside of armour
Joerg sent me. I'm now subscribed. (For the shooting, although the workouts are a concept I wouldn't have imagined until now. Yes, I'm obviously not an archer.)
Joe you machine!!! I wasnt aware you had a youtube channel. Glad i found it
Hey Joe! I've been having a look at Shadiversity's videos about knocking the arrow on the right side of the bow. I'm sure you're aware of the bickering online now on wether or not warbow archers knocked on the left or the right. My technique for pulling is very similar to yours, and with a 165lbs bow, there is no way I can balance the arrow on the right, but maybe I'm also not training like the did back then.
My own take on this is that people would knock the arrow on whatever side they felt natural, and that in the experience of the people I know who pull actual heavy warbows (not just 80-110lbs) knocking on the right is way more tricky and an unnescesary handicap. You have any thoughts on this? As one of the few people being able to draw 200lbs and above, I think your opinion on the matter is rather relevant.
Greetings from a norwegian warbow archer;)
(got my bows from Daniel, believe he has made a couple of yours too)
This is Thrand love your vids shall try to mimic your machanics on draw hope to increase my draw strength. Best so far with my style about 120 to 130.
Nice training, im getting a war bow soon. Wondering what arrows to use, they seem to brake a lot.
Came across your film by chance. It's great to see the passion you have for Archery. I've got to ask though, have you ever let one go over the fence at the end of your garden ? I can't imagine your neighbours sunbath much.😁
Send J. Sprave a 200lb war bow!! His last episode was 💣💥🔥
Came over from JoergSprave ... interesting channel thank you
Hey Joe I last saw u at the Weald n dwn land medieval thing like 15yrs ago? U were shooting 100lbs all day (u got the French knight full in the face in the ‘rain of arrows’ bit at the end) glad to c ur still keeping it alive.
Respect.
Anyone having tried a 40 pound recurve bow will understand how incredible this is.
I guess in dire straits you could still club your enemies with this massive bow.
Now that's one solid junk of yew😳
It'd have to be the very last resort as wood bows must be looked after very carefully. Hitting anything hard would ruin the bow & next time it was shot it would likely break. When they break, it's unbelievably violent, more like an explosion.
a native tribe did that with their bows to some spanish soldiers fought natives bows where so heavy the spanish could not draw them so one Account said once they're done shooting their arrows they bash you with their bows it could make a man bleed under his helmet
I first saw you on Tod's Workshop. Incredible.
Amazing pulling power I have been shooting the Longbow for over 40 years .And can see that power in the technique you use
What distance can you shoot the arrow at full draw?Enjoyed watching you pulling those Longbows Back.Thank you.
So, do you every switch side occasionally? I know some track runners occasionally run the opposite way on track training in order to even things out. Only during off season, but still. Even track training will put different strain on your legs when turning and it will eventually make a difference due to assymetric stresses during training.
This should make a much bigger impact. So do you ever switch side to even things out?
210 bow with a giant redwood for an arrow!! 😳
You can certainly see you’ve practiced most of your life....I bet you started as a 12 year old kid and worked up ever since....awesome
Hey Joe, I think it’s great you’re putting these out! What does all this training make you think about weights that were actually being used in in the Middle Ages?
Hi Drew thanks for you comments. I think 150lbs was average nothing special at all and people shooting 180-200 very achievable for strong healthy guys. I'm doing these vids to try and get the average of bow weights up. Its been increasing slowly for the past 10 years. But it would be good to get more people shooting 150lbs. The last 5 years has seen a few more people shooting over 140 lbs. So theres maybe about 5 in England who can shoot this weight all day. Thanks joe
@@Joegibbs-archery Thanks Joe. I suppose that makes sense. Since you seem to be the strongest amongst us modern archers, I would think you would still be considered pretty impressive back in the day. Especially considering you have access to all the advantages modern knowledge affords regarding things like diet and training regimes. If even you can only perform a handful of reps @200 lbs, I find it a little bit hard to believe anyone would go into battle with a 200 lb bow in the past, even those who were exceptionally strong. But if you think so, who the hell am I to question! Thanks again.
@@dgriswold93
Hi Drew mate. I dont think I would have been anything special back in the day. No you right with saying they wouldn't have gone in to battle with a 200lbs longbow. I ment some would have been able to handle bows of 200lbs but in a battle situation you would want a bow that was comfortable. So in battle bows of 130-170lbs. If I was going in to battle I would take a 150@30. Comfortable and fast. Cheers mate.
Hiya again Joe, after reading one of your comments about getting more people to shoot bows of 150 lbs + as I'm on 105lb my mission is to eventually shoot at least 105lb.
As I'm from Gwent.I'm sure I can get there.I'm currently working on another bow of wych elm.cheers.Mathew.Crow Valley Longbows.
Joe Gibbs awesome video! I had an argument with my history teacher in college, he was saying that over bows over 100 lbs was not something regular archers could really achieve back then. I was 16 at the time of the conversation and was shooting (not very accurately) a 80lbs warbow. Thank you for confirming my thoughts!
Hey Joe, do you ever happen to do dumbbell rows? If you do, do you happen to know your max and If not than what sets, reps and weight? I'm more dedicated to lifting but I've been into archery since my young teenage years and while I've never even seen a bow that heavy, I could draw a 100lbs bowtech like nothing when a guy at the club brought one in, although when I took off my release and finger shot it... That was a lot harder haha. Still, I'm curious as to how quickly I could get to the point where I could draw the 200 pounder a couple times since my body is pretty much built to pull. Maybe if I ever go on a safari I'll start working my way up to the big boys but until then I'll stick with my measly 80# compound. Anyways this is impressive as all hell mate, thanks for sharing.
i have a question, do bows "loosen up" because of the pulling? like the more you pull the less the force you have to make to shoot an arrow because the wood is used to that
God dang, I'm over here drawing 50 pounds at the age of 15 and not trying to over exaggerate but I could feel the struggle in drawing that bow
@Ry Blosser not bad honestly for a 12 year old, pulling 40 pounds with a bow is different than just pulling something that ways 40 pounds
Most start at 30 pounds and most train technique and accuracy with 40 to 60 pound bows. Mate of mine can draw 170 all day but mainly practices with his 55 pound bow.
Imagine in a medieval war having to draw the war bow for some amount of volleys, those archers where machines
Good pulls bro! Make sure to train both sides to avoid imbalances
I just about felt your pain...Well done bruv.
_"Das not a beow, _*_dis_*_ is a beow!"_
Just remind yourself, in the past all that huffing and puffing was worth it to see a French man run through.
Yes. The answer is yes.
Immediate subscription! @ReonMagnum spoke highly of your channel, and you don't disappoint good sir. May you and all of your viewers/ followers stay safe, healthy, and doing amazing ( Presumably archery-based things! ) Until things look better.
Also! The arms, shoulders and core strength on this guy, to draw a bow like this.
Far out, what's the string made from? That's amazing too!
He flexed so hard he blew the fly outta his pants.
Impressive. I would recommend a helmet with a right ear guard though.
Do you have any heavy mongolian style bows? Is that large bow all yew heartwood and a backing or is that small strip sapwood?
What would you use the various bows for? Like that 200lb longbow looks like hell to draw.
would be interesting to know if you've developed asymmetries in your musculature from shooting bows.
Sure he has
Absolutely, but it's probably not a problem.
I wonder what you do to maintain body (chest, lat, bicep) symmetry.
He's said he has a physical job, but apparently doesn't exercise outside of that and archery.
This man is the definition of what a man is
I'm 48, just starting out in traditional archery. The weight of the bows you fire are mind-boggling, I can barely manage a handful of shots from my 40lb haha
You can catch the flu handling one of his bows.
There was no Coronavirus when you made that comment... How different the world was back then!
Just makes me glad they invented the modern firearm
For anyone who did not notice, watch the bycet munscle on the right arm
Its a dead giveaway of a regular archer, they all have very good shoulder blades and upper arm muscle dont forget, the normal shoot is 144 arrows in an afternoon.
Do you do it on your left side as well? to even the muscles a bit
It's scary to imagine that muscle if explode
I'd end up dry firing one of them, good workout, I'll get some bands I think
Reminds me of the bows where you sit down and use both arms and legs to shoot. With no let off how long can one aim such a bow? Can you hunt with such a heavy draw, because at close range the exertion alone will blow your cover, and at long range the target will hear and maybe see the arrow coming? But it is still a great display of strength for a non-climber.
Thanks! I’ll get right out there and do just this.
i can pull 50 comfortably . i am a bit of a string bean haha
He need a helper to spit on his hands lol 😂
Sir... one question.... How did they managed to use long bow in streets or places like that .... it would be pretty tough eh? ... Did the english men had any shorter variables of bow
Great technique requires great mental fortitude and physical strength….u have passed young JEDI ✅
Awesome 🔥
Now let's ask any speed/trick shooter to try to do their thing with an actual war bow like one of these lol
Apples and oranges. Do speed shooters claim they would be able to do that?
Some claim that speed shooting and military shooting are the same
Depending on range, a speed shooter would already have three arrows inside their target before he even drew that beast of a bow. If longer, then the fella with a longbow may have a upperhand in range, but probably not accuracy so much?
I hope this bow has a max strength bonus greater than +3, otherwise no point.
you are one of the best bowmen pulling high weights whom I have ever seen in my entire life.
I would like to see you shooting at a 3d target distance 80 yards with one of your favourite bows.
Greetings from Germany......
Can you do a video on the methods of stringing up a warbow from 150 to 200 pounds or more? What are the common methods?
I imagine that if the archery fails he could beat the s**t out of the enemies with that truncheon...
Fell in love with archery the first time I got to shoot a bow for 45 minutes. Never felt so grounded and happy. Had sore muscles the next days.
Immediately ordered my own bow, though. It just arrived and has 30 lbs. I feel like it's twice the amount I had while test shooting, I can barely get the string to my chin and got a very shakey grip hand. So much fun though. Love this sport, it's super meditative, relaxing, exciting, never felt so happy after a sports activity. Now I just gotta get used to 30 lbs draw or buy a second bow after shooting 5 arrows already xD Respect for drawing 210 lbs Oô Oô oô
wow... v intense. well done Joe! subbed
Fantastic I had a 150# and it was a killer!!! Wow great job
Where do you buy those flatbows? I heard you say fairbow. Is it the rebel? Ant other brands? Custom orders?
I make these flatbows apart from one of them. I make and sell heavy flatbows contact me for details at hillbillybows@gmail.com or fine me on face book. Hillbillybows
Please show me what's on the fingers of your right hand. How do you hold the string?
I am seriously wondering, how do you string that 200 pound bow? I'm having trouble stringing an 80 pound bow at this point in time (admittedly haven't been shooting for a a few years now).
King Henry V: "Let us rain Gods holy hailfire on those wretched toadeaters!"
Constable of the Longbowmen: "Just a minute Sire, the men need to warm up first..."