I do shoot compound, but watching this, I AM going to get me a longbow too. Way to go, you are short, concise, focused and clear in your instruction. No fussing around, damn good instructor!
I’m a teacher in Virginia and began my traditional archery journey by starting a Beginning Archery Quest with 7th and 8th grade students in January 2022. The experience was amazing, and I am absolutely hooked. It is a mindful passion that I find balancing, challenging, and fun! After much exploration, I was fascinated, entertained, and inspired by Armin Hirmer’s channel and am thrilled that your videos provide another incredible guide. Much respect and gratitude.
This finally explained back tension in a way I can understand I have heard so many people give these convoluted explanations and I've never really got it. Thanks again Jeff your my absolute mentor
trad shooter of 3 years, shooting 63" Byron Ferguson 55# with Victory 400-550 at 29". Started instinctive, then a year ago started to be swayed by the gap crowd and I succumbed and spent the last year trying to nail that idea down and I would have to say I failed miserably. I think part of the issue is my vision, I wear glasses and they definitely have an impact. So now I am back to instinctive, within a week I was back to 6 inch groups at 25 yards. I might never get better than that, c'est la vie. Even though I shoot 3d targets on my property daily, I am really focusing on hunting ability. Thanks for the great channel as I just found you.
Nicely done my friend. I truly appreciate you taking the time to share this video with us. I do believe with all me heart, you can do everything right in a "shot" and if you mess up the follow through, you will miss. Thanks again, this was a perfect delivery on this subject. Thanks again and have a blessed week. Dale
I had to try the drop the string elbow and yes it also dropped the bow arm. Kind of like running the faster you move your arms the faster the legs will go.
I saw your videos always late at night and got the irresistible impulse to grab the bow and go out for shooting, to see if i achieve that precision ...pure inspiration here!! thanks.
Lol I still do that crazy stuff like getting up after I’ve gone to bed and go outside and shoot, needless to say my wife doesn’t understand what the big deal is🤣
Jeff, another great video. I started shooting a R/D Longbow last year, I also dropped about 4# of draw weight from what I had previously used on recurves. Initially I was struggling, but very quickly found that what you are describing here was the solution for me. With less draw weight and the same anchor as before, it was easier for me to collapse on the release, before the change, that heavier draw weight assisted me in keeping that pulling motion because I had to pull to hit anchor, with a lighter draw weight bow it was so much easier to get there and wobble/collapse. So now, I have an anchor point that gives me an additional inch of draw past what I used to do with my heavier recurves, a more solid/consistent anchor and release, and better back tension all at the same time. Preach on Brother! Some day I man need to try a passion LB. I really like my narrow handled R/D bow now, and even prefer it over those hefty full recurve handles, from what I have seen your LB seems to have more of a recurve grip, is that correct?
All I can say is WOW! I tried to imagine what it would look like when finished & it’s absolutely stunning! The best part is that that beautiful bow is being shipped to me! Thanks Jeff she’s gorgeous!!!! I can’t wait!!
Brandon… All I can say you will not be disappointed! It hits right where you look. I have about 1000 arrows through mine so far and the more you shoot it the smoother it becomes.
Darn good insights about back tension and the natural hinge in your body. I never thought about the connection between the front bow arm and back shoulder. Great video and awesome shooting!
By pulling through the shot, the string slides easier then consciously thinking of letting go of the string, and it helps retain the T form of your shoulders allowing the bowhand to stay more stable. It's very similar to the idea in Rifle shooting to letting the shot surprise you when it goes off, but you'll notice that the time in looking at the target and staying locked on to a very small tuft of fur or the x of the target is extended in the aspect of focus and attention and burning the hole through the target. This allows us to think of the concept of shooting for the exit in hunting or shooting through the target. I hope this helps and welcome to the bent stick and string club!
Awesome video. Your right about the shoulder hinge thing.I had no idea. Also I was raising my bow as I draw but now I’ve taking your advice and instantly see an improvement. Thanks.
Great information, the swing draw has been to great success but it's too much movement in a hunting situation , I agree with your method of keeping the shot consistent getting on target in the beginning and pulling through , very good method
Hey Jeff, could you one of these times talk a little bit about your glove that you use. I have shot for years with a tab in the "Barebow" class competing. But I bought a glove to shoot my longbow with and it is a terrible fit. It's too small, the ends that your fingers go into rotate around every shot and it's terrible. I notice your glove is a lot more like a real glove and I'm curious to know more about it if you wouldn't mind talking about it a little. Sure do appreciate all of your videos and instruction, especially this one on pulling through the shot. Very, very important!! Thanks Jeff for all you do. Jim Scott Baker City, Oregon
When he got to the, 'involuntary natural hinge' demonstration I thought, "I call BS. I won't drop my bow arm". Nope! I was wrong! It totally drops as long as your back is in tension.
Try as l might to concentrate on the spot l am aiming at my arrow is allways clear in my vision and my target spot is blurred any tips on reversing this
Boy that’s a tough one! You may be near sighted possibility, if you’re target is blurry when something near your eyes line of sight you may have to use what’s called split vision shooting and that’s okay it’s whatever works best for you but seriously hold a finger out at arm’s length and see if it changes your focus at say 20 yards.
Kind of a rudimentary question because I've only shot adult compound bows and youth longbows when I was younger, so I'm not very familiar with longbows and recurve bows. My question is, let's say the particular long or recurve bow is a 50lb draw. Is the draw weight only in the actual draw and when fully drawn are you in a more weightless position? Or with the bow fully drawn are you holding that drawn weight until the shot is released? If that makes sense. I've been watching the show Alone and they release their arrows almost immediately after full draw. There's usually almost no time spent fully drawn and lining the shot up. I'm not sure if it's because they're rushing or it's because the draw weight isn't relieved at full extension like on a compound bow. Thank you, and sorry for the long winded question!
Elbow up is the key. I shoot a whole different bows/styles and I don't generally don't pull through unless I'm shooting compound. The beautiful thing about archery there isn't one single perfect technique 👌. The no1 advice is to join a club
Very confusing: are you advocating a Static or a Dynamic release? Also, slow motion video of your release from different angles would be helpful. Love your video's; please keep them coming; and good luck with your bow and arrow building business. Your bows look great and seem to be good performers. I see that your carbon limbs have outer wood laminations. What is the percentage of carbon, wood & glass? Can you show scientifically that carbon boosts the performance of your bows?
Well actually I practice a lot at night with luminoks it a great time to work on form and focus as well as at dusk, I’ve got a couple of different videos on this exact subject on RUclips check them out sometime hopefully they’ll help and show you how much fun it is!
I have a 47# bow that was built for me. 51” long I have a 27” draw. I have 28.5” 500 spine arrows with 250 grains in the from but the kick to the left in flight. What do I need to have the fly right
I call this pull through method "wipe the mustard off your face" this way you get to anchor, aim and continue the motion and during which the string slides off the fingers, and that puts the draw hand over the shoulder each and every time
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I realized that this is the easiest way to teach a kid how to pull through the shot and it's worked well for the past few years. I love your channel as you and I do a lot of similar things within archery, I'm a longbow hunter and teach a varied audience of kids in introductory through advanced archery, fellow disabled veterans with rehabilitative and mental aspects of archery and doing adaptive archery, on top of teaching hunting with the state and refer people to your videos a lot. Keep up the good work!
Ok, if you decide to sell any, please let me know, thanks for the videos they are helping me tremendously. Starting to shoot tighter groups. Gotta keep my elbow up, great technique
Sorry I thought this was a traditional longbow review. You know. D shaped longbow around 74” no cut to centre shot riser. The real deal. Seems RUclips has brought me here for some reason. You all have fun with your toys.
Respect to you always but I disagree. It may work good for you but not for me. To say you have to pull through is false. My hand never moves off anchor and I come off the string just fine. But that is what works for me. Over thinking and over analyzing has always confused my simple little mind. Being instictive is just that. Be yourself and stop thinking how others are doing it. We are all standing on the shoulders of those that came before us. Keep it simple and stay instictive. Love your channel.
100% agree. Of all the tips I could give a traditional archer, "pulling through the shot" is #1.
I don't.but I've shot clout for a while and I went through a phase of shooting 60,70,80 lbs bows so I just shoot soft with a 40lbs bow
Brother your hinge explanation was the best way I've ever heard it put
Thank you sir!
I do shoot compound, but watching this, I AM going to get me a longbow too. Way to go, you are short, concise, focused and clear in your instruction. No fussing around, damn good instructor!
Thank you and you’ll definitely have some fun with it!
Man I am so glad I found your channel you are just a wholesome fella
Thank you sir!
I’m a teacher in Virginia and began my traditional archery journey by starting a Beginning Archery Quest with 7th and 8th grade students in January 2022. The experience was amazing, and I am absolutely hooked. It is a mindful passion that I find balancing, challenging, and fun! After much exploration, I was fascinated, entertained, and inspired by Armin Hirmer’s channel and am thrilled that your videos provide another incredible guide. Much respect and gratitude.
That’s awesome thank you sir!
I am new to Traditional Archery and your videos are a huge help. Thanks so much for taking the time to make them.
Thank you sir!
This finally explained back tension in a way I can understand I have heard so many people give these convoluted explanations and I've never really got it. Thanks again Jeff your my absolute mentor
trad shooter of 3 years, shooting 63" Byron Ferguson 55# with Victory 400-550 at 29".
Started instinctive, then a year ago started to be swayed by the gap crowd and I succumbed and spent the last year trying to nail that idea down and I would have to say I failed miserably.
I think part of the issue is my vision, I wear glasses and they definitely have an impact.
So now I am back to instinctive, within a week I was back to 6 inch groups at 25 yards. I might never get better than that, c'est la vie. Even though I shoot 3d targets on my property daily, I am really focusing on hunting ability.
Thanks for the great channel as I just found you.
Ive been shooting for years (mostly wrong until youtube brought me vids like this😂) and man this was an AHH HAA moment! Spot on dude thanks!
Thank you sir!
Nicely done my friend. I truly appreciate you taking the time to share this video with us.
I do believe with all me heart, you can do everything right in a "shot" and if you mess up the follow through, you will miss. Thanks again, this was a perfect delivery on this subject. Thanks again and have a blessed week.
Dale
Thanks Dale we appreciate it 👍🏻
I had to try the drop the string elbow and yes it also dropped the bow arm. Kind of like running the faster you move your arms the faster the legs will go.
I saw your videos always late at night and got the irresistible impulse to grab the bow and go out for shooting, to see if i achieve that precision ...pure inspiration here!! thanks.
Lol I still do that crazy stuff like getting up after I’ve gone to bed and go outside and shoot, needless to say my wife doesn’t understand what the big deal is🤣
Great tip. And one beautiful bow
thanks Jeff. that is an absolutely beautiful bow.
Thanks alot, I appreciate your coaching through form and technique. Big help, God bless you and your family from Australia.
Jeff, another great video. I started shooting a R/D Longbow last year, I also dropped about 4# of draw weight from what I had previously used on recurves. Initially I was struggling, but very quickly found that what you are describing here was the solution for me. With less draw weight and the same anchor as before, it was easier for me to collapse on the release, before the change, that heavier draw weight assisted me in keeping that pulling motion because I had to pull to hit anchor, with a lighter draw weight bow it was so much easier to get there and wobble/collapse. So now, I have an anchor point that gives me an additional inch of draw past what I used to do with my heavier recurves, a more solid/consistent anchor and release, and better back tension all at the same time. Preach on Brother! Some day I man need to try a passion LB. I really like my narrow handled R/D bow now, and even prefer it over those hefty full recurve handles, from what I have seen your LB seems to have more of a recurve grip, is that correct?
All I can say is WOW!
I tried to imagine what it would look like when finished & it’s absolutely stunning!
The best part is that that beautiful bow is being shipped to me!
Thanks Jeff she’s gorgeous!!!! I can’t wait!!
Thanks and we hope you enjoy it for many years brother 😁
Same here man. Ordered a black hunter. Should be here tomorrow 😄 hope your shootings going well
Brandon… All I can say you will not be disappointed! It hits right where you look. I have about 1000 arrows through mine so far and the more you shoot it the smoother it becomes.
Darn good insights about back tension and the natural hinge in your body. I never thought about the connection between the front bow arm and back shoulder. Great video and awesome shooting!
Love my shortbow💜. Subbed to the channel.
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What a great video. I can’t wait to see more of what you have posted
Thanks! Hopefully there will be something in one of the videos that’ll be helpful I really appreciate it!
I just love your enthusiasm! It shows you love your craft! You take care and thanks for the form homework to work on!
Thank you so much we really appreciate that!
This is what I needed to hear , I have been shooting a long bow for about 2 weeks . Pulling thru your shot makes alot of sense . Thanks
Awesome brother let me know if I can help anytime!
By pulling through the shot, the string slides easier then consciously thinking of letting go of the string, and it helps retain the T form of your shoulders allowing the bowhand to stay more stable. It's very similar to the idea in Rifle shooting to letting the shot surprise you when it goes off, but you'll notice that the time in looking at the target and staying locked on to a very small tuft of fur or the x of the target is extended in the aspect of focus and attention and burning the hole through the target. This allows us to think of the concept of shooting for the exit in hunting or shooting through the target. I hope this helps and welcome to the bent stick and string club!
@@elijahbasnett4357 yes sir thanks brother 👍🏻
Thanks brother.
Just ordered a bow this is a great help. Better to learn once than have to relearn.
Never put the release and stability of bow arm together before , just tried it - great tip! Subbed.
Solid advice 👌
Grab the golf ball! Great video Jeff!
Awesome video. Your right about the shoulder hinge thing.I had no idea. Also I was raising my bow as I draw but now I’ve taking your advice and instantly see an improvement. Thanks.
Awesome! Thanks so much for watching 👍🏻
Good information.
That one tip... I'm going to rework my followthrough/pull through after I release... Great video (like your others)!
Thanks brother!
Good instructive video- very helpful!
Thanks!
I paused and dropped my elbow, my bow arm stayed completely still, maybe I am "unhinged"
Lol maybe so my brother 😁
No hinge in my shoulders I tried it
Good video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Another great informative video Jeff!
Great video, thanks! Are you a fan of the Bearpaw gloves? I've been thinking of getting one.
Wow I couldn't believe it, I tried dropping my string arm and it was like my bow arm was attached to it!!! And I wasn't even holding my bow !!!!!
Great information, the swing draw has been to great success but it's too much movement in a hunting situation , I agree with your method of keeping the shot consistent getting on target in the beginning and pulling through , very good method
Great videos boss man
So as a lefty I need to be at a 10 o'clock cant... Great video. Good lessons, thanks!
Hey Jeff, could you one of these times talk a little bit about your glove that you use. I have shot for years with a tab in the "Barebow" class competing. But I bought a glove to shoot my longbow with and it is a terrible fit. It's too small, the ends that your fingers go into rotate around every shot and it's terrible. I notice your glove is a lot more like a real glove and I'm curious to know more about it if you wouldn't mind talking about it a little. Sure do appreciate all of your videos and instruction, especially this one on pulling through the shot. Very, very important!! Thanks Jeff for all you do.
Jim Scott
Baker City, Oregon
Yes sir 👍🏻
When he got to the, 'involuntary natural hinge' demonstration I thought, "I call BS. I won't drop my bow arm". Nope! I was wrong! It totally drops as long as your back is in tension.
Try as l might to concentrate on the spot l am aiming at my arrow is allways clear in my vision and my target spot is blurred any tips on reversing this
Boy that’s a tough one! You may be near sighted possibility, if you’re target is blurry when something near your eyes line of sight you may have to use what’s called split vision shooting and that’s okay it’s whatever works best for you but seriously hold a finger out at arm’s length and see if it changes your focus at say 20 yards.
What type arrows are you using? This is great info.
For information go to Irish school of archery Jim re long bow shooting
Kind of a rudimentary question because I've only shot adult compound bows and youth longbows when I was younger, so I'm not very familiar with longbows and recurve bows. My question is, let's say the particular long or recurve bow is a 50lb draw. Is the draw weight only in the actual draw and when fully drawn are you in a more weightless position? Or with the bow fully drawn are you holding that drawn weight until the shot is released? If that makes sense. I've been watching the show Alone and they release their arrows almost immediately after full draw. There's usually almost no time spent fully drawn and lining the shot up. I'm not sure if it's because they're rushing or it's because the draw weight isn't relieved at full extension like on a compound bow.
Thank you, and sorry for the long winded question!
Elbow up is the key. I shoot a whole different bows/styles and I don't generally don't pull through unless I'm shooting compound. The beautiful thing about archery there isn't one single perfect technique 👌. The no1 advice is to join a club
Very confusing: are you advocating a Static or a Dynamic release? Also, slow motion video of your release from different angles would be helpful. Love your video's; please keep them coming; and good luck with your bow and arrow building business.
Your bows look great and seem to be good performers. I see that your carbon limbs have outer wood laminations. What is the percentage of carbon, wood & glass? Can you show scientifically that carbon boosts the performance of your bows?
Is this realy a Longbow ? a real Longbow doesen‘t is curved for me . Maybe i am wrong , in Germany we Call such s Bow Jagdbogen / Hunting bow
Thanks for the tips! How do you shoot/aim or instinctively shoot when it’s last light?
Well actually I practice a lot at night with luminoks it a great time to work on form and focus as well as at dusk, I’ve got a couple of different videos on this exact subject on RUclips check them out sometime hopefully they’ll help and show you how much fun it is!
I have a 47# bow that was built for me. 51” long I have a 27” draw. I have 28.5” 500 spine arrows with 250 grains in the from but the kick to the left in flight. What do I need to have the fly right
Didn't catch it, what make is this bow again please
Passion C2 double carbon by Instinctive Addiction Archery👍🏻
I call this pull through method "wipe the mustard off your face" this way you get to anchor, aim and continue the motion and during which the string slides off the fingers, and that puts the draw hand over the shoulder each and every time
Lol great example!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
I realized that this is the easiest way to teach a kid how to pull through the shot and it's worked well for the past few years. I love your channel as you and I do a lot of similar things within archery, I'm a longbow hunter and teach a varied audience of kids in introductory through advanced archery, fellow disabled veterans with rehabilitative and mental aspects of archery and doing adaptive archery, on top of teaching hunting with the state and refer people to your videos a lot. Keep up the good work!
@@elijahbasnett4357 amen! That’s awesome thank you sir and God Bless!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thank you!
I think that bear got away😉🤣😁
Do you close one eye when you’re aiming?
Hello, same concepts & style w recurve?
🙏🤙 Thank you
👍🏻
Hey Jeff, can I get the info on that passion, where to buy, cost
We used to build them, I’ve got a couple left just not sure if I want to let them go lol
Ok, if you decide to sell any, please let me know, thanks for the videos they are helping me tremendously. Starting to shoot tighter groups. Gotta keep my elbow up, great technique
@@frankfavaloro3675 absolutely I will thanks!
Right handed it would be the 10;00 am position. LOL
Sorry I thought this was a traditional longbow review.
You know.
D shaped longbow around 74” no cut to centre shot riser.
The real deal.
Seems RUclips has brought me here for some reason.
You all have fun with your toys.
Couldnt you see what bow he is using from the thumbnail?
are those wraps or paint on the tip end of your arrows?
Wraps
Do you close one eye on the release so your dominant eye can focus on your spot or do you keep both eyes open on release
I shoot both eyes open and if you are able to almost close one eye it can definitely help with focus a lot of shooters do that 👍🏻
Kind of a recurvey longbow. She's purty tho
Good imagination.
Respect to you always but I disagree. It may work good for you but not for me. To say you have to pull through is false. My hand never moves off anchor and I come off the string just fine. But that is what works for me. Over thinking and over analyzing has always confused my simple little mind. Being instictive is just that. Be yourself and stop thinking how others are doing it. We are all standing on the shoulders of those that came before us. Keep it simple and stay instictive. Love your channel.
Thanks brother!