Are these the right All Blacks to face against Ireland in the end of year tour | Aoteroa Rugby Pod
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- The Aoteroa crew is joined by All Blacks coach Jason Ryan to discuss the All Blacks team selection that will travel up north on their end-of-year tour. They go over lessons learnt in The Rugby Championship before they face off against England, Ireland and France.
All blacks will be welcome in Ireland and the Irish have enormous respect for them and believe they are a team that can beat any team on any day. I think they were very close to beating SA if they had of won 1 game we would be all thinking very differently now.
They would have won one game if the Bongi try had been properly adjudicated.
Get over it@@geoffnelson6756
The are still the team most actively hated by most Ireland fans, I'm sorry to report, even more so than England.
@@Formakiwi I don’t believe Irish rugby fans hate any rugby nation, rivalry’s yes but there is no rugby nation that the Irish wouldn’t welcome and sit down and have a pint and a laugh with their fans before and after a game. In Munster they tell you “what goes on on the pitch stays on the pitch” and this goes for all true Irish rugby fans including England and NZ
@Formakiwi they're absolutely not hated by irish fans. There is total respect and healthy rivalry which is what sport needs.
Just my input on the Rieko/Sexton thing, I was in the military 40 years ago and the banter was harsh, and unlike todays rugby, punches were thrown, so I'm all for the banter and ribbing, O'Mahony's dig to Cane and Retallick's response to Pete spot on, but Rieko was out of line with Sexton, knowing it was his last game and no chance for revenge, it was 'below the belt' But hey, if Ireland win in November I think Rieko will get a bit of stick.
Well said.
There’s a time and place and things get heated but to say what he said, in that specific moment really showed you who that man truly is. Nasty piece of work.
As an Ireland fan, there’s been way too much on this. Sexton himself said he had no issues with Ioane’s sledging and was trying to explain why he had such a bad reaction to the ABs winning that QF. I think all of us in Ireland can’t be taking the moral high ground especially when POM calls Cane ‘a shit Richie McCaw’
@@chihangho5377 yeah the shit richie mccaw comment was much more below the belt. more offensive than a heat of the moment comment
@@deanreardon it’s a great sledge. Peak O’Mahony. But Cane had the last laugh
Sexton's memoir, like that of Brian O'Driscoll, is another petulant and unseemly squeal, dripping with bitterness towards the All Blacks, against whom too many players of Sexton's generation still nurse a severe inferiority complex despite the recent pattern of results slightly favoring the Irish. Those twin QF eliminations obviously still sting, and in the classically disappointing fashion of too many Irishmen, Johnny would rather play the victim and moan about a cheeky quip than rise above reflect on his long career with wisdom or insight. Irish-NZ dual citizen talking.
Insightful and interesting as always James! Love your work!
I cannot see how we win against Ireland.Their team structure, resilience and being in Dublin ,Ireland by 12 plus
While I might favor a home win for Ireland, there's no way the margin will be more than a single score.
@@fawltyoldboybasil.2178why no way?
@@SmcdMcd-d2k Because of 2 things. 1 - List of injured players includes our top 3 hookers (Sheehan, Kelleher, Herring), Henshaw, Jaeger, etc. Latest reports say that they may all miss the November matches. 2 - Andy Farrell is now dealing with the Lions 2025 Tour business. Simon Easterby is now handling the squad.
@@fawltyoldboybasil.2178 yeah actually that makes sense but I think Andy is around until December?
@@fawltyoldboybasil.2178Ire 24 - 12 NZ, and Ire 32 - 22 NZ were some of the results the last time Ireland played on NZ soil, and Ire 29 - 20 NZ the last time Ireland were at home. The way the ABs have looked this year (pedestrian on attack, passive in defence) there's ample reason to believe Ireland have every chance to put up a decent margin over the ABs. Not a certainty, by any means, but a definite possibility.
Hopefully Ireland can deny the ABs a win in Ireland ☝️ can’t wait for the games in any case
As an Irish man - as somebody said, you have to give it and take it. Sledging on the field during the game is part of high level competitive sport - you dish it out, you get it back. But I think the lack of class Ioane showed saying what he said AFTER a game to a player who was retiring (and like him or not, has played over 100 tests) showed zero class. Clearly hasn't the slightest regret either. The contrast with players like Ardie Savea who would tear your head off to win a ball during the game but show a lot of humility after the game is done - shows up Ioane a bit really. And btw, no bias cos Sexton has crossed the line himself a few times during his career and was a bit of temperamental f*cker himself, way too narky as a captain aswell. This is only all about hyping book sales anyway!
As a Kiwi - most of us know Rieko is a grub and doesn't reflect our country or the ABs' values. Hard to see his behaviour being given a pass were Richie still captain
I find it hilarious how Sexton has been retired a year and is lodged firmly in the head of NZL rugby fans 🤣
World cup chokers
@@lateralus6512 Still better than you numb nuts!
@@lateralus6512NZ don’t choke .. sometimes you are beaten by the better team.
@@iankavanagh9174 Ireland are the WC chokers.
You lost the final.....again
The 36 best players in the country selected to play a new style of rugby from the start of the season (with the addition of Cam Roigard ) requires Consistency in selections and to maintain continuity that includes selecting the invaluable experience of key players
A new style of rugby? Oh you mean the "flat-footed, standing start, thump it up the middle then spin it wide and hope the outside backs can make something of it" structure familiar from Cantab club rugby. Yeah, bit of a case of "here's the new stuff, same as the old stuff", like the team selection and overall pattern of results.
welcome back BOYS - I believe that if you guys pick the right team........you will beat Ireland.
AB's by 5-7.
Starting
Ethan De Groot (26 / Highlanders / Southland / 28)
Codie Taylor (33 / Crusaders / Canterbury / 93)
Tyrel Lomax (28 / Hurricanes / Tasman / 40)
Scott Barrett (30 / Crusaders / Taranaki / 76) (Captain)
Tupou Vaa’i (24 / Chiefs / Taranaki / 34)
Dalton Papali’i (26 / Blues / Counties Manukau / 36)
Wallace Sititi (22 / Chiefs / North Harbour / 5)
Ardie Savea (30 / Moana Pasifika / Wellington / 90) (Vice Captain)
Sam Roigard (23 / Hurricanes / Counties Manukau / 5)
Beauden Barrett (33 / Blues / Taranaki / 131)
Jordie Barrett (27 / Hurricanes / Taranaki / 65) (Vice Captain)
David Havili (29 / Crusaders / Tasman / 28)
Caleb Clarke (25 / Blues / Auckland / 25)
Sevu Reece (27 / Crusaders / Southland / 30)
Will Jordan (26 / Crusaders / Tasman / 37)
Bench
George Bell (22 / Crusaders / Canterbury / 1) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 20mins)
Ofa Tu’ungafasi (32 / Blues / Northland / 63) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 30mins)
Tamaiti Williams (24 / Crusaders / Canterbury / 14) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 30mins)
Patrick Tuipulotu (31 / Blues / Auckland / 46) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 30mins)
Ethan Blackadder (29 / Crusaders / Tasman / 15) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 30mins)
Sam Cane (32 / Chiefs / Bay of Plenty / 100) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 30mins)
TJ Perenara (32 / Hurricanes / Wellington / 87) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 20mins)
Damian McKenzie (29 / Chiefs / Waikato / 56) (backline cover wing fullback flyhalf) (IMPACT OFF BENCH 20mins)
No Reiko?
@@deanreardon not today son
@@duncangravy6060 Maybe if Ireland are off the pace!
My theory around TJ and Sam Cane's continueted selection is, Scott Robertson is deliberately picking them and making them integral to his current team in order to try and force the door open to international selection, which would allow him to bring his little protégé back from his cushy Japanese retirement gig. If true, it would be a classic case of putting short-term self-interest ahead of sound long-term thinking. In other words, classic Robertson.
Irish eyes are smiling ☺... 🏉
The Irish are salty due to choking at yet another world cup quarter final.
@@lateralus6512NZ rugby a bunch of angry little coke heads nowadays 🤣
@@lateralus6512 Perhaps so... November month will be interesting... 🏉
These games will be a great for sititi to test his metal.
"We've been together 7 weeks"? Really Jase? Almost the whole group(Except for the head coach) has been together years
Puzzling hey
And somehow they are just now figuring out that keeping only a couple focus areas in mind is a good thing for clarity in games. As if that isn't the case at every single level. This guy seemed good at first but pretty worrying at this stage the rubbish that's spouted. ABs isn't a dev team, who plays best gets picked.... well those things are contradictory in the way they implement them cos if the best guy playing was picked Lakai would have been the 7 first game.
70 odd comments in a few days...? Surely not some kind of yt shadow banning...?
Jason Ryan basically towing the line that these coaches (and James apparently) think win the battle instead of the war. While the Boks develop for 2027, we're obsessed with making sure we don't drop anyone from the 'leadership group', no matter how poorly they're playing, and now we're taking two who were horrible against the lowly Wallabies along as glorified moral support. What's TJ teaching the better performing 9's exactly? How to pass badly and mouth off to the Ref? Ratima, Sititi and Va'ai have been the standouts this year, and yet none would have gotten their chance if injuries hadn't happened. We seem obsessed with the same 'experienced' players who have been at the core of landmark losses for years now. Same players = same outcomes.
You're right, they should drop (and fire) everybody who has more than 50 caps. In fact, they should have dropped the entire team when Razor and the assistant coaches took over. What would they know about the value of experience?
Great, another armchair critic that’s probably never coached before.
TJ comfortably shaded the highly-regarded Cam Roigard, whom many a keyboard warrior claimed to be the heir apparent, in their head-to-head NPC clash this past weekend.
Parsons solidifies the arrogance from ABs on how they view other teams outside of NZ. Sledging is one thing during a game, classless arrogance after final whistle had no place in the sport. Arrogance from current New Zealand side has seeped into AllBlacks culture since Hansen departed…..
@KarlM99 so you elect yourself as the arbiter of where things can and cannot make offence, and conveniently favors you, and then you call the other side arrogant. Lovely
See you in the final mate 😆
.......the final you lost
Skill set is the coaches job ,game plan ,systems ; style ? How about basics ! B ferns .
Mate we might have been together but our style of play was the exact opposite of their identity.
Razor still cowardly scared to lose games in selections instead of trying to build anything new.
Only good thing in the squad is Ruben Love who should have been selected at start of internationals if they weren't saving slot for Will Jordan and wasting 3 one dimensional wingers for what should be a single slot.
How Havili the catagorically worst midfielder of this year(worse than a bunch of reserves as well) got a sniff at all is baffling.
I think Razor is correct to concentrate on winning games at this stage. Too many losses undermine confidence. There's plenty of time to plan for the next World Cup.
The interesting thing, some of the best refreshing selections this year were caused by injury not by choice ,
Sititi to 6 , ratima starting , Jordan to fb , etc
@@qcsorter4626I thought he was the magician who would sweep away all the old thinking and instantly resurrect the unconquerable All Blacks of yesterday, all while sipping a latte and breakdancing on his surfboard...?
This is why hype trains are the worst means of choosing the best candidate for any position of responsibility.
Anyone els do a jig to the intro song?...
Papalii looked so commanding at NPC level...
He always has at that level... then always been average at international level. Fairly consistant but average when been given plenty of opportunities.
Papali'i is over-rated!
Karmaviva, Baby
Make it past the quarters baby
Johnny making money hand over fist with this book.
Mr. Ioane unwittingly helping Jonny make a nice extra bit of profit, with all the free publiciity he's given Jonny's book. First time I've seen a foreign rugby player's autobiography reveiwed by the Sports Sections of the British Papers.
Dan Carter’s book sold well without the arrogance or sourness. Sexton will forever be remembered for the wrong reasons.
Tu'ungafasi, Cane, Perenara, Havili, Perofeta are all wasted selections. Why so many wingers? Razor is blunt and out of his depth. Ryan needs less dressing with his never ending word salad of BS. Well done NZRFU, you've ruined one of the last great NZ brands. Shocking ineptitude, 5 wins and 3 losses already this year, should beat Japan and Italy, but England, Ireland and France are going to give us a reality check for sure! Well done for getting out Leon, your time will come . . . . .
I think Razor is a great guy and with a better start would have more confidence, but I agree he is currently treading water and doesn't have the emotional intelligence of Hansen or as tuned in to each player like Andy Farrell
Jason talks a lot but says nothing
Same old stuff week in and out
ALL BLACKS WILL BEAT IRELAND BY 21 POINTS
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