This scripture is amazing. It describes the problems that plague America.. I see nothing wrong with it. Doesn't need to be changed to cater the crybabies of the world.
@@randyslidesoff as an exmormon (now accepting all gods and none, it’s complicated) please keep fighting Mormon beliefs. Jesus is so much better than Joseph Smith! 😂
The Mormons reinterpreted the quote and stated it wasn’t about skin color, it was talking about the countenance of a people. We all know what those verses meant, as interpreted by so-called Mormon prophets for over 140 years, but keep allowing the Mormons to reinterpret and revise their doctrines to fit with the times. This Is the only way for them to keep the church membership expanding.
It's nautical you just want to be a lesbian that's why you left the church and in the Bible it says no man should lay with another man so you're a sinner and it doesn't matter what church you're at
If you ever have the time, I was raised for a short time in the mormon church as a foster child, along with my sister and my brother in the 70's early 80's. We'd been severely abused by our mother, And the company she kept. Our fathers were not in our lives. I found great comforts in the church dynamic and family home evenings and the family structure. It wasn't until my chastity talk with my Bishop,That I found the darkness in the church. Unfortunately my reporting this to my Foster mother, led to me being removed from the home separated from my brother and sister to never see them until I was an adult and had to find them myself. With the State of Oregon's help they covered up the abuse. Sent me away to a "school". I celebrated when I was able to choose to leave that cult.
As someone who was in the religion, tbh, they don’t. It’s super hidden and not talked about and if you ask questions you are told NOT to ask questions.
I am a person Of mixed race my cousins are mormon, I remember being over at their house and my cousin telling me that I was going to go to hell because I was black. I knew she was wrong. But I also knew I wasn't allowed to tell her that. I wasn't allowed to stick up for myself or speak the REAL word of God.
Imagine being a racist white kid back in the 1820s and wondering how or why God made black people. And this same person changed his encounter with this being 4 times in less than 10 years. He claimed that he was commanded to translate a book from an ancient book of golden plates which were taken to heaven by one of these beings for some reason they didn't want us to check out those golden plates for ourselves. Maybe because they were not gold at all and they had lettering like someone was trying to create a new language?
didn't you ever hear about the "special glasses" JS used to read them? When questioned many years later he had to say, "well, taken up to heaven with those golden tablets". Convenient.
Non-white races were created by God to serve white people. This was a universal belief for 'Christians' for centuries. Some still believe it, but somehow believe themselves to be moral people.
The misogyny in the racism in Mormonism drove me out of it, and I have a huge Mormon family that is deeply involved in the church. The end result is most of the family broke away from the church because they all realized it was BS.
She said "in the scriptures " referring to the book of mormon. Its important to point out the fact that the book of mormon is NOT scripture! The Lord our God does NOT see anyone as dark or loathsome as a curse. That ideology was written by and repeated by evil men. That's not from the heart of God
@@bmo5082 It is NOT scripture. Lies from the pits of hell. Moses in the real scripture, the Bible married a black woman. Solomon married a black woman. Quit trying to cover loathsome racism. Shamsful!
Grew up in Mexico where this discussions arent being had, but this and poligamy always bothered me. Once I got to the US I realized how terrible this made-up book is.
@@omar-uu8qo not really. It says a “mark”. Nothing about skin color. It’s a racist invention by American Protestants. Not sure any current sects still teach that. But the Mormon church does.
I know the apologia is to frame "dark and loathsome" as a countenance thing, but you REALLY have to squint around the problematic words like "skin" to believe this isn't just pure racism.
I always wonder where does this leave Filipinos,Samoans,Mexicans,Chinese,etc ???? The rest of the planet? Where does the rest of the planet fall in Mormons eyes? Who’s “white”exactly?
You're being sarcastic I hope? Or do you really think that makes it OK? Keep in mind we have no idea who these BOM people were supposed to be or where they lived. Because no Native Americans are in any way of Hebrew descent.
Think about where Jesus came from. What do people look like in Jerusalem? Jesus himself was not white and blue eyed. He was dark skinned dark eyes and hair
Who cares what a person's skin color is? I don't care if they are purple with pink polka-dots! We are all people and deserve to be treated with love and respect.
The interesting thing is Nephi said he spoke hebrew and the egyptian language, in which he identifed with those two groups of people. It's possible that Nephi was a man of dark complexion himself if you look at the historical complexion of those nations.
@@peteraschaffenburg1 I did try, but couldn't even get through Genesis. Still, I've read enough passages from all or most of the books to know that their god is basically a mob boss!
@@whbbrd as a recovering catholic....I had to read that fairytale book and know it by heart. My grandmother was great at spare the rod spoil the child. Prayers were done kneeling on rice when you were being punished. The cured willow tree branches in holy water were just God punishing you for not knowing the scripture. Thankfully when my parents marriage broke up at age 11. Church was never spoken about again in my house.
@Wendy Hubbard thanks....my siblings didn't fare as well as I did. I was the youngest. My oldest sister became bipolar with multiple personality disorders just to be able to keep up with my grandmother's demands. She learned to lie....then just never stopped. My other sister can't clean windows from the trauma my grandmother inflicted on her. She would tell another sister that our father wasn't hers. Told me the same at one point. She was a very unhappy woman who was only happy when making others around her miserable. My poor mother included. I don't think I ever heard her tell anyone (my grandmother) that she loved them. Yet to the community, she was very pious and Christian like. As I've aged, I learned she was a narcissist. It just amazes me that the ones who act the holiest are the most evil.
That’s why I’m glad most of the people in the Bible were Middle Eastern not too light too dark and preached a message that’s for the whole world not just one part!
The Jehovah witnesses wrote this in their publication. Watchtower 1929 Jul 24 p.702 Question: "Is there anything in the Bible that reveals the origin of the Negro? Answer: It is generally believed that the curse which Noah pronounced upon Canaan was the origin of the Black race. Certain it is that when Noah said, "Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren," he pictured the future of the Colored race. They have been and are a race of servants, ... There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world."
@@acorngnome You are a cult and your not a christian. The Bible decides that and I judge by what it says. you have no part in this statement unfortunately. mormons are a masonic cult and there is no heaven when your following a white Jesus and pevertic pedo white cult.
When Lehman and his camp left Nephi and his camp, they went into a place called desolation, fast dry very sunny area. Their dark complexion was a evolution of theiir environment, and not some sort of unnatural behavior that God has inflicted on a group of people. As for the mixing of seed, I don’t have an answer for that I’ll have to look more into it.
Why are you speaking about it as if that’s the truth of how indigenous Americans came about when we factually know the Nephites and Lamenites didn’t exist? 🤡 Also, no matter how you slice it, the curse was dark skin. It doesn’t matter how they got dark skin. It was still a curse according to the Book of Mormon. Period.
“A commandment I give unto you, which is the word of God, that you revile no more against them because of the darkness of their skins.” - The Book of Mormon
God made everyone, he sees the beauty in all his creations. It's only us humans that don't see the beauty in everything he does. This goes to show that people use the bible and twist it to be hateful to one another, so sad
What’s being referenced is not in The Bible. She’s discussing the Book of Mormon. So whatever argument you’re trying to make is actually regarding the BOM.
had a debate with a mormon recently about who Christ is and who He claims to be. the mormon kept on citing mormon “scripture” as if it’s reliable at all, so i asked about the racist passage “what’s good with this?” his answer? no replies.
This is called the illumination. Shining the light of truth upon the powerful. Likely you will also find a culture of secrecy within such a group as you describe. Exclusive and insular are two common descriptors of this particular sect, whose morality is that of the early american frontier "closed house" concept. Theology adequate to cause congregants to keep themselves apart. Compare and contrast to healthy spirituality, which encourages interfaith contacts, promotes wemyns health education, and teaches tolerance with a focus on personal development. Always question any private society and what thier goals are, ask "who gains?" And also "what are they really like?" I hope all of you who read this will at least think about it a bit. Your abusive experience is abnormal, statistically rare and not a good reason to reject all that faith based groups may offer. The true value is in the community of course, and the resources and opportunities that a healthy spiritual community provides.
The more I hear of this insane “religion” makes me feel that they really like fantasy fiction type stuff. I bet they would love Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings or those types of stories. Just make sure you explain that not all things in books are real 😂
@@newmanhoverd206 you're not black and wouldn't understand what it feels like to join the church at 14 and read in a scripture that the skin you have was actually used as a curse on people. And you start to wonder if u truly look filthy and loathsome.
@@Eddie229 Actually I do, I served my mission in Africa and taught many young people, both members and investigators about this. Even some of my African companions struggled with this and I was blessed to have the opportunity to help them come to terms with how God works. The curse isn’t the change of skin colour. The curse is being cut off from the Lords presence and the cursing of the land so that it would not yield them much fruit. On the other hand Nephi and his people remained in the Lords presence and the land was blessed for their sake insomuch that they prospered greatly and yielded much fruit. The only truly loathsome part about this is the hardness of Laman and Lemuels hearts, they loved works of darkness too much as opposed to Nephis love for the Lord, who is the light of the world. Laman and Lemuel denied His light, they continually forgot Him, they repeatedly disobeyed Him, they kept choosing babylon/the world, they kept choosing pride, they kept choosing anger and violence, they loved sin and despised righteousness. They were so set on killing their brother Nephi they suffered the same fate as Cain who also loved wickedness and would not obey Gods voice. He too was cursed and cut off from the Lords presence, the land was also cursed for his sake. And the change of skin colour to mark him and his posterity as wicked and lovers of darkness continued through his posterity. How blessed are we today to have the opportunity to hear the good news of Jesus Christ, to repent and return into the Lords presence, to have any such curses removed and prosper in the land. The people of Ammon did just that after their powerful conversion and the curse was lifted from them and they became favoured of the Lord and regained the Lords presence. They became fair and delightsome. As did many of my African brothers and sisters who too became converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ. How they were filled with such great light! How beautiful they looked on their baptism day, with the Holy Ghost burning within them. Their beauty and radiance shone as they went through the temple for the first time. Their countenance when they bore powerful testimony of the restored gospel. The Lord was absolutely present with them. They regardless of whether or not their skin colour changed, were favoured of the Lord and have been blessed to enter the presence of the Lord, to become numbered among the house of Israel, Gods chosen, covenant people, who shall if they endure to the end, receive their inheritance and their glory at that day when He shall make His triumphant return to the earth, where all the wicked shall be cut off forever, and all the faithful shall be given their promised inheritance and their glory and dwell with the Lord of Lords and King of Kings forever. This is the greatest of all the gifts of God. Don’t cut yourself off from His presence over something like this when there are far weightier matters at hand. God bless you 🙏
@@newmanhoverd206 thank u very much though, but that scripture was explicit in stating that the dark skin was actually a curse so they would look loathsome to the nephites. I will always love my heavenly father and his son jesus christ and try to the best of my ability to be good and kind to everyone and anyone. But there's so much the church is admitting to right now that makes me wonder. Try reading the church history and gospel topic essay in ur library. I served a mission too here in my country Nigeria, I taught people the bom was translated by the power of god and now the church is admitting it was done with a stone in a hat? Or that Joseph married more than 36 wives, other mens wives included?
@@Eddie229 1 Nephi 2 19 And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto me, saying: Blessed art thou, Nephi, because of thy faith, for thou hast sought me diligently, with lowliness of heart. 20 And inasmuch as ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall prosper, and shall be led to a land of promise; yea, even a land which I have prepared for you; yea, a land which is choice above all other lands. 21 And inasmuch as thy brethren shall rebel against thee, they shall be cut off from the presence of the Lord. Vs 20 the lord states the blessings. Vs 21 the lord states the curse. It is repeated over and over in the BOM. This was the pattern of blessing and cursing as found throughout the Old Testament as well. Which fits because Nephi lived during the law of Moses era. But this passage in Alma 3 makes it abundantly clear: 6 And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men. 7 And their brethren sought to destroy them, therefore they were cursed; and the Lord God set a mark upon them, yea, upon Laman and Lemuel, and also the sons of Ishmael, and Ishmaelitish women. 8 And this was done that their seed might be distinguished from the seed of their brethren, that thereby the Lord God might preserve his people, that they might not mix and believe in incorrect traditions which would prove their destruction. The curse was because of their rebellion against God. The mark was to set them apart and keep the two people from intermingling. But once that curse was lifted through the anti Nephi Lehis, it didn’t matter since they were both the Lords people again. “The stone in a hat”. Yes that was the seer stone and such information is quite old. It’s something only a prophet and seer can use. And it only works by the power of God. The hat, yes. It proves that he was not copying any one else’s notes or manuscripts, but received the words directly from God as a translation of the plates. I recall the account where Martin Harris, in a test for Joseph, swapped out the seer stone for a regular stone and Joseph could not translate with it, until Martin gave him back the real seer stone. This was the same seer stone used in the translation of the Jaredite plates, which was found in the box Moroni left for Joseph buried in the hill Cumorah. More proof that this was a divine work that only a true servant of God could have accomplished. There’s no good reason to doubt its authenticity brother. Especially not to doubt the witnesses of the spirit you’ve received directly through His Holy Spirit. REMEMBER. And never forget it!
"he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile." 2nd Nephi 26:33
the thing about this that people tend to forget, is that God loves everybody. No matter what, you are all his creations, and in the Book of Mormon, it wasn't just a whole tribe that suddenly became darked skinned. and those who decided to do wrong before the lord were cursed and were turned dark skin. We are told that even those with white skin we're turned dark skin because of their wickedness. Now it is a test to love each other as we are, and I'm sorry you are struggling with the things of the Book of Mormon but God is not a racist he never was he literally created you. He loves each and every one of you even if you don't believe in him or hate him. And with the idea of the dark skinned people as loathsome people. It means the wicked who got themselves cursed and were turned to dark skin, became loathsome, they gathered together. But in the end it also talks about being kind and loving toward us. And we need to be kind and loving no matter what because now and then you are judged based on your actions. IF you are cruel towards someone no matter what color, you are going to be judged of God and receive consequences.
The God of the Bible made all colors. He made them man and woman. Some are tall some short. Jesus, God incarnate, was a middle eastern man. with middle eastern ethnic characteristics. Read your Bible to find truth, not the book of Mormon.
I remember learning about the "mud tribes" within the Mormon teachings years ago as a youth. This didn't sound right or make any sense to me. The Bible however states quite clearly about The Shulammite maiden in King Solomon's court Song of Solomon 1:5 describes her as "dark and lovely". 6 Sun-kissed 8 "Oh most beautiful of women.." There weren't many if any "whites" in the Middle East and Mediterranean areas during Biblical times for obvious reasons.. The Sunshine
There used to be segregation in this country, I think in the early 1900's and up until recently. I don't know if this had anything to do, as far as one race believing that they were better than the other. But people usually change, when they get exposed to different people.
The US is more segregated now than it was when segregation was technically legal. I addressed this when I wrote my thesis on race and generational wealth inequality and how they relate to educational opportunities. Being exposed to diverse groups does help with this. Getting Mormons to interact with other groups of people is like telling a fish to join a soccer league though. They actively avoid it at every turn and are often told not to interact with Black people and non-Mormons.
I ask Allah to guide you all to the truth of Islam. Racism is a major sin in Islam and though people can be Muslim and still tribalistic and racist but it is not found within our doctrine. Racism is the original sin. If you would like to know more. Please research Islam from Islamic sources and visit your local Masjid.
(My paraphrase) "....Now there is neither Jew nor Roman, white or black....Woman or man but All are sons and daughters of God" Bible and: Because of Jesus.
In the The Bible book of Songs Of Solomon it says “I am black , BUT comely” meaning black even to those ppl back then us ugly , But she wasn’t. So how is The Bible not racist as well?
let's not forget God punished Mariam, I think that's her name, Moses sister for daring to complain that Moses married a black woman from Egypt. God sent her some good good leprosy. And only spared Aaron because he was a priest. why would God do that to a fair and excellent woman for a black and loathsome woman? I also highly feel the book of Mormon might be misunderstood. I haven't read it. Till I do , then maybe I'll get the whole picture.
every picture of Jesus in an LDS is depicted as a white Jesus Jesus 100% could not have been white and he wasn't as dark as some this makes many LDS people upset
Dark and loathsome are two different descriptive words. They weren’t loathsome because they were dark. God made the loathsome people dark so that the other group could tell who the wicked people were so they wouldn’t intermingle. Here is how you can tell it isn’t racist: Because God didn’t make them lighter once they repented. That is because the bad part isn’t the color. Remember there was even a prophet, Samuel the Lamanite.
It is true that Jesus Christ who was born in the Middle East was white like an Englishman, Jesus had dark skin like the Arabs should I deduce that he was cursed?
Imagine being so confident while not saying a single intelligent argument. Making them stand out by having dark skin still means they were cursed with dark skin, dipshit. You talked yourself in a circle. It’s also amazing to hear a racism apologist sit here and tell people who are on the receiving end of said racism that it isn’t actually racism. How about you come back when you learn not to gaslight people by saying we aren’t actually experiencing what we’re experiencing because you personally don’t think that we are as someone who has never once been through it.
For anyone claiming this to be about race, it’s not. Saints unscripted as a really good video, explaining how the “dark” skin is not talking about the literal dark skin. He uses references from the Bible as well to prove this point. Basic idea is that the “dark” skin is dark as in death or destruction, where as white is purity.
I’m happy ppl are seeing the lies behind that cult. I invite everyone to read the clear Quran. You all seem to be able to use your intellect which is what God has given us to remember him and make sense of things. I am a revert 4 years now and it is the best decision I have ever made. I submitted my will to God, creator of the heavens and the earth. I’ve given up the pleasures of this world that pulls me away from him. And I am fully submitted to who created me. Because he has given me an understanding that to him we will all return.
Their skin tone was changed simply to tell them apart. The Lamanites were loathsome and filthy all on their own. Perhaps you'd be fine if God had turned them green? Or you want to compare what happened with these people to now?
Did you actually listen to the verse? Why are you trying to change the meaning that's clearly there? Maybe because you don't want to believe that's what it says?
….. “they were bad people, so they were cursed with dark skin to tell them apart from the good people, but dark skin wasn’t a curse and has nothing to do with being bad people.” You can’t be that stupid. You should be a gymnast. You’re extremely good at mental gymnastics.
The Jews in Jesus day had similar thoughts towards the Samaritan's, (a mixed race) Jesus taught the Jews a better way... this similar to what happens in the BOM when Jesus comes and also when Alma converts. My point is that the Nephites in the BOM we'rent done yet, just as the Jews weren't done. Just as we're not done until we all have Christlike love towards each other and there are no rich or poor among us. You need to read the whole book instead of selecting scriptures that teach your narrative.
@@mitchrichardson744 I never said modern Natives were pure Hebrew. 1. The BOM says that the Laminates grew to be 4x as large as the Nephites despite having the same numbers when they started out. This means they likely mixed with other cultures that lived there. Marrying outside the Hebrew race was considered a sin in OT times. This explains why the Nephites saw the Laminates as cursed, also it explains why the Laminates had darker skin. So the laminates did not have pure Hebrew DNA to pass on. 2.The Nephites who did have pure Hebrew DNA were completely killed off by the end of the BOM. 3.90% of natives were killed off by diseases when white Europeans landed in the Americas, this was a major DNA bottleneck. 4.Modern DNA testing of human bones have linked Natives to Eurasia, Europe, Australia, and even the Middle East, where the BOM said they originated. The science is incomplete and the picture of the Americas look much more complex than we originally thought.
@@ARAZTXTN Only zealous mormons believe the DNA science is incomplete. Plus it was well known that the americans were settled from aisia even before DNA.
@@mitchrichardson744 Science requires humility. Anyone that says there's no room for our current understanding of history to change has an agenda. For example, this is a clip from A Reuters article that I just googled. "SAN ANTONIO, Texas (Reuters) - Native Americans have closer genetic ties to people in Eurasia, the Middle East and Europe than previously believed, according to new research on a 24,000-year-old human bone.,"
@@ARAZTXTN how on earth does bones from 24k thousand years ago help your case that 2500 years ago steel smelting Hebrews via boat settled an empty America? (There is more to say but I'd just be wasting time wouldnt I?)
Jesus Christ the LORD gives us the freedom to always speak the true Gospel (1Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 10:9-10) no matter where we are. Christ settled the race issue on the cross 2000 years ago. John 3:16, John 6:37. People who do not see this truth are blind. 2Corinthians 4:4.
No, you don’t. You believe it’s true, but you don’t know that it’s true. You have no way of proving it; in fact, there are actually plenty of ways to disprove it. You’re still allowed to believe it if you would like. However, you do not know; you only feel. You and others like you need to take a pause and recognize that believing and knowing are not the same thing. This is BASIC logic that everyone should understand, and you are no exception - no matter how much you want to be. You’re not special. Your desire to believe in something does not make that thing factual. The world does not run on your opinions.
@@eazycool9058subjective but, what about the Muslim that believes that the Quran is scripture and he knows through the power of God that it is true. There's no evidence to prove the Book of Mormon is true. Our personal feelings are deceiving Jeremiah 17:9 says not to trust the heart it can be very deceiving. Plus there were 4,000 changes made to the Book of Mormon like names, doctrine, and cities.
@@danielvega442 Listen to your heart when he's calling for you Listen to your heart, there's nothing else you can do I don't know where you're going and I don't know why But listen to your heart before you tell him goodbye ❤️😆
@@eazycool9058 but the bible does say not to listen to the heart because you don't know if it's God or your own personal feelings. That's what I'm trying to say. Trust God's word over your heart. Thy word is truth.
You guys can think whatever you want to make you feel good about yourselves, but the “Dark” skin and “Light” skin mentioned in the Book of Mormon was a reference to countenance, not the actual color of your skin 😂 I see how that translation from Hebrew to English can be a bit confusing to us at this point in time, but come on.
Wait 😂 if you ever read the Book of Mormon… people do realize that the lamanites also became good while the nephites became bad… so tell me this… did they swap skin colors? And if they didn’t then why? Maybe because it wasn’t about the literal sense of skin color we are talking about 🤦🏾♂️
Episode 1723 ruclips.net/video/K8sDOJ_6zxI/видео.html
its all good now SLC HQ edited it out LOL
This whole idea of viewing dark skinned people as loathsome is itself loathsome.
Only a loathsome person would say this.
This scripture is amazing. It describes the problems that plague America.. I see nothing wrong with it. Doesn't need to be changed to cater the crybabies of the world.
Im not worried about Mormon heaven,no secret handshakes,names and satanic rituals will get you in.Only Jesus will, not Joseph Smith.😆
@@dannieriv5942Which scriptures are you speaking about?
@@randyslidesoff as an exmormon (now accepting all gods and none, it’s complicated) please keep fighting Mormon beliefs. Jesus is so much better than Joseph Smith! 😂
“Dark and loathsome” 😳 how are more people not aware of this racist doctrine
Well, it was one of the dozens of reasons I left.
Black lives matters should rally a protest on their church every Sunday.
So what ? It is all absurd anyhow
The Mormons reinterpreted the quote and stated it wasn’t about skin color, it was talking about the countenance of a people. We all know what those verses meant, as interpreted by so-called Mormon prophets for over 140 years, but keep allowing the Mormons to reinterpret and revise their doctrines to fit with the times. This
Is the only way for them to keep the church membership expanding.
@@sidhayes6168 Not to people who believe it. It adds to them persecuting others
Born Mormon, grateful that I’m no longer stuck in that cult
Same!
DIDO!!
Praise God!
All Christian denominations are fundamentally cults. Get deprogrammed & leave.
It's nautical you just want to be a lesbian that's why you left the church and in the Bible it says no man should lay with another man so you're a sinner and it doesn't matter what church you're at
If there are still black people in that religion, I hope they open their eyes soon and get out of that mess
Agreed
Absolutely. But all other organised religions have similar problems 😞
If you ever have the time, I was raised for a short time in the mormon church as a foster child, along with my sister and my brother in the 70's early 80's. We'd been severely abused by our mother, And the company she kept. Our fathers were not in our lives. I found great comforts in the church dynamic and family home evenings and the family structure. It wasn't until my chastity talk with my Bishop,That I found the darkness in the church. Unfortunately my reporting this to my Foster mother, led to me being removed from the home separated from my brother and sister to never see them until I was an adult and had to find them myself. With the State of Oregon's help they covered up the abuse. Sent me away to a "school". I celebrated when I was able to choose to leave that cult.
That is so sad
May God made you a better person than she was
Yea surface Christian’s . That’s what Mormons are. Although I will say their are some truest
Awesome mormon families but it’s few and far between.
😞
I'm so sorry you were punished for speaking the truth. I'm glad you found them again.
That I was taught this from birth makes me sick.
I often wonder if those guys who are constantly inviting me to church even know how racist their religion is.
As someone who was in the religion, tbh, they don’t. It’s super hidden and not talked about and if you ask questions you are told NOT to ask questions.
I am a person Of mixed race my cousins are mormon, I remember being over at their house and my cousin telling me that I was going to go to hell because I was black. I knew she was wrong. But I also knew I wasn't allowed to tell her that. I wasn't allowed to stick up for myself or speak the REAL word of God.
Lying
What the hell... that is crazy.
@@carlf.9957 yes you are, to yourself.
Oh im sorry you were told that I'm lds I don't even want to know which parent told them that cuz to say such false hoof thing hurt me to hear
That’s just sad and evil.
Imagine being a racist white kid back in the 1820s and wondering how or why God made black people. And this same person changed his encounter with this being 4 times in less than 10 years. He claimed that he was commanded to translate a book from an ancient book of golden plates which were taken to heaven by one of these beings for some reason they didn't want us to check out those golden plates for ourselves. Maybe because they were not gold at all and they had lettering like someone was trying to create a new language?
didn't you ever hear about the "special glasses" JS used to read them? When questioned many years later he had to say, "well, taken up to heaven with those golden tablets". Convenient.
Non-white races were created by God to serve white people. This was a universal belief for 'Christians' for centuries. Some still believe it, but somehow believe themselves to be moral people.
The misogyny in the racism in Mormonism drove me out of it, and I have a huge Mormon family that is deeply involved in the church. The end result is most of the family broke away from the church because they all realized it was BS.
My grandma used to ask me why I wanted to look like a Lamanite when I got really tan. Ugh.
I'm so glad I'm excommunicated
What did you do?
Omg
She said "in the scriptures " referring to the book of mormon. Its important to point out the fact that the book of mormon is NOT scripture!
The Lord our God does NOT see anyone as dark or loathsome as a curse.
That ideology was written by and repeated by evil men. That's not from the heart of God
It is.
@@bmo5082 It is NOT scripture. Lies from the pits of hell. Moses in the real scripture, the Bible married a black woman. Solomon married a black woman. Quit trying to cover loathsome racism. Shamsful!
That’s what you believe, but they are specifically talking about the Mormon religion
She is talking about the book of Genesis where Cain skin turns black for shortening Abel's life.
@@Ephesians--ih5fl moses didn’t marry a black woman. What are you talking about?
Grew up in Mexico where this discussions arent being had, but this and poligamy always bothered me. Once I got to the US I realized how terrible this made-up book is.
Ex Mormon here with my half-cursed baby 👋❤️❤️ sorry not sorry.
That's gross
@Rob H not as gross as a white Mormon man 🤢🤢 THAT'S nasty.
That is a lie from the pit of hell! --->John 3:16.
Don't forget Brigham Young explaining where black people's skin tone came from. Edit: And there's still a college named after him
They were created black so their skin can handle the sun heat in Africa, god's creation not a curse.
@@omar-uu8qo didn't have to try, but it's the truth
Thank you
I'm on the lighter side and my skin suffer a lot here in Africa. it's to keep us safe
Agreed 💯
We shall see in the end who's filthy, who's fair, beautiful and chosen
amen. deut. 7:6
John 14:6.
I was a mormon until I found out some very disturbing things about the mormon belief and practice. I'm glad God opened my eyes by exposure.🙏🏾
“Mark of Caine”? That’s what my Mormon friend said they were told.
@@omar-uu8qo not really. It says a “mark”. Nothing about skin color. It’s a racist invention by American Protestants. Not sure any current sects still teach that. But the Mormon church does.
I was taught that when God marked Caine, he made him black so that everyone would know what he had done.
Unrelated to the topic, her style is SO cute 😍 the shirt and glasses are everything
She’s racist
I know the apologia is to frame "dark and loathsome" as a countenance thing, but you REALLY have to squint around the problematic words like "skin" to believe this isn't just pure racism.
I always wonder where does this leave Filipinos,Samoans,Mexicans,Chinese,etc ???? The rest of the planet? Where does the rest of the planet fall in Mormons eyes? Who’s “white”exactly?
Mormonism ran in my family until it ended with me.
Keep in mind the Nephites got destroyed but the Lamanites an portion of them are saved for the last days.
You're being sarcastic I hope? Or do you really think that makes it OK? Keep in mind we have no idea who these BOM people were supposed to be or where they lived. Because no Native Americans are in any way of Hebrew descent.
Joseph Smith did not make it to heaven,he was a 33 degree Free Mason General Albert Pike said lucifer is the god of Free Masonary.
It’s actually the Book of Morons.
No joke my grandma told me growing up if I dated a black guy I had a crush on I wouldn’t go to heaven?!
Thank you for sharing this 💛 I’m sorry
That's messed up cult.💯
Think about where Jesus came from. What do people look like in Jerusalem? Jesus himself was not white and blue eyed. He was dark skinned dark eyes and hair
Who cares what a person's skin color is? I don't care if they are purple with pink polka-dots! We are all people and deserve to be treated with love and respect.
Well Mormons do and the book of Norman is racist
Nobody deserves anything
The interesting thing is Nephi said he spoke hebrew and the egyptian language, in which he identifed with those two groups of people. It's possible that Nephi was a man of dark complexion himself if you look at the historical complexion of those nations.
What a nasty little book. I've had my family problems growing up, but so glad I didn't grow up in a cult!
Ever read the Bible? Specifically the Old Testament. Nasty is just one of the descriptions that would fit.😉
@@peteraschaffenburg1 I did try, but couldn't even get through Genesis. Still, I've read enough passages from all or most of the books to know that their god is basically a mob boss!
@@whbbrd as a recovering catholic....I had to read that fairytale book and know it by heart. My grandmother was great at spare the rod spoil the child. Prayers were done kneeling on rice when you were being punished. The cured willow tree branches in holy water were just God punishing you for not knowing the scripture. Thankfully when my parents marriage broke up at age 11. Church was never spoken about again in my house.
@@CurriedMexican God, so sorry you had to go through that! Glad you're free!!
@Wendy Hubbard thanks....my siblings didn't fare as well as I did. I was the youngest. My oldest sister became bipolar with multiple personality disorders just to be able to keep up with my grandmother's demands. She learned to lie....then just never stopped. My other sister can't clean windows from the trauma my grandmother inflicted on her. She would tell another sister that our father wasn't hers. Told me the same at one point. She was a very unhappy woman who was only happy when making others around her miserable. My poor mother included. I don't think I ever heard her tell anyone (my grandmother) that she loved them. Yet to the community, she was very pious and Christian like. As I've aged, I learned she was a narcissist. It just amazes me that the ones who act the holiest are the most evil.
People were shocked to hear this and often didn't believe me. I also find it strange locally they often pair black and white up
And the truth will come to light... Always!
That’s why I’m glad most of the people in the Bible were Middle Eastern not too light too dark and preached a message that’s for the whole world not just one part!
Imagine thinking there aren’t both light and dark-skinned people in the Middle East, which is culturally combined with Northern Africa.
Middle east and North Africa is very diverse, there’s people of all shades your are extremely ignorant
The Jehovah witnesses wrote this in their publication.
Watchtower 1929 Jul 24 p.702
Question: "Is there anything in the Bible that reveals the origin of the Negro?
Answer: It is generally believed that the curse which Noah pronounced upon Canaan was the origin of the Black race. Certain it is that when Noah said, "Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren," he pictured the future of the Colored race. They have been and are a race of servants, ... There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world."
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Mormons aren’t wrong.
They are and anyone following that cult is going to hell
@@klopcodez
1. Wow, what a convincing argument...
2. It isn't a cult.
3. You don't get to decide who goes to which place.
@@acorngnome You are a cult and your not a christian. The Bible decides that and I judge by what it says. you have no part in this statement unfortunately. mormons are a masonic cult and there is no heaven when your following a white Jesus and pevertic pedo white cult.
When Lehman and his camp left Nephi and his camp, they went into a place called desolation, fast dry very sunny area. Their dark complexion was a evolution of theiir environment, and not some sort of unnatural behavior that God has inflicted on a group of people. As for the mixing of seed, I don’t have an answer for that I’ll have to look more into it.
Why are you speaking about it as if that’s the truth of how indigenous Americans came about when we factually know the Nephites and Lamenites didn’t exist? 🤡 Also, no matter how you slice it, the curse was dark skin. It doesn’t matter how they got dark skin. It was still a curse according to the Book of Mormon. Period.
So much heresy, so little Time🤦🤦🤦
I’m white but this is one off the reason why I left the church because off it’s racial past and still is today in some ways to
“A commandment I give unto you, which is the word of God, that you revile no more against them because of the darkness of their skins.” - The Book of Mormon
It's a fictional book
Dark is better because we burn not 😮
God made everyone, he sees the beauty in all his creations. It's only us humans that don't see the beauty in everything he does. This goes to show that people use the bible and twist it to be hateful to one another, so sad
What’s being referenced is not in The Bible. She’s discussing the Book of Mormon. So whatever argument you’re trying to make is actually regarding the BOM.
had a debate with a mormon recently about who Christ is and who He claims to be. the mormon kept on citing mormon “scripture” as if it’s reliable at all, so i asked about the racist passage “what’s good with this?”
his answer? no replies.
Away with all superstitions. Relegate them to the dust bin of history for the good of mankind.
This is called the illumination. Shining the light of truth upon the powerful. Likely you will also find a culture of secrecy within such a group as you describe. Exclusive and insular are two common descriptors of this particular sect, whose morality is that of the early american frontier "closed house" concept. Theology adequate to cause congregants to keep themselves apart.
Compare and contrast to healthy spirituality, which encourages interfaith contacts, promotes wemyns health education, and teaches tolerance with a focus on personal development.
Always question any private society and what thier goals are, ask "who gains?" And also "what are they really like?"
I hope all of you who read this will at least think about it a bit. Your abusive experience is abnormal, statistically rare and not a good reason to reject all that faith based groups may offer. The true value is in the community of course, and the resources and opportunities that a healthy spiritual community provides.
All religious text is tweaked and remixed propaganda.
Heartbreaking 💔
The more I hear of this insane “religion” makes me feel that they really like fantasy fiction type stuff. I bet they would love Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings or those types of stories. Just make sure you explain that not all things in books are real 😂
Some of them aren’t allowed to read books like that.
Question IS- What are you doing to combat and change this?
That scripture always did bother me
Did you ever bother to study and seek further light and understanding?
@@newmanhoverd206 you're not black and wouldn't understand what it feels like to join the church at 14 and read in a scripture that the skin you have was actually used as a curse on people. And you start to wonder if u truly look filthy and loathsome.
@@Eddie229 Actually I do, I served my mission in Africa and taught many young people, both members and investigators about this. Even some of my African companions struggled with this and I was blessed to have the opportunity to help them come to terms with how God works. The curse isn’t the change of skin colour. The curse is being cut off from the Lords presence and the cursing of the land so that it would not yield them much fruit. On the other hand Nephi and his people remained in the Lords presence and the land was blessed for their sake insomuch that they prospered greatly and yielded much fruit.
The only truly loathsome part about this is the hardness of Laman and Lemuels hearts, they loved works of darkness too much as opposed to Nephis love for the Lord, who is the light of the world. Laman and Lemuel denied His light, they continually forgot Him, they repeatedly disobeyed Him, they kept choosing babylon/the world, they kept choosing pride, they kept choosing anger and violence, they loved sin and despised righteousness. They were so set on killing their brother Nephi they suffered the same fate as Cain who also loved wickedness and would not obey Gods voice. He too was cursed and cut off from the Lords presence, the land was also cursed for his sake. And the change of skin colour to mark him and his posterity as wicked and lovers of darkness continued through his posterity.
How blessed are we today to have the opportunity to hear the good news of Jesus Christ, to repent and return into the Lords presence, to have any such curses removed and prosper in the land. The people of Ammon did just that after their powerful conversion and the curse was lifted from them and they became favoured of the Lord and regained the Lords presence. They became fair and delightsome. As did many of my African brothers and sisters who too became converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ. How they were filled with such great light! How beautiful they looked on their baptism day, with the Holy Ghost burning within them. Their beauty and radiance shone as they went through the temple for the first time. Their countenance when they bore powerful testimony of the restored gospel. The Lord was absolutely present with them. They regardless of whether or not their skin colour changed, were favoured of the Lord and have been blessed to enter the presence of the Lord, to become numbered among the house of Israel, Gods chosen, covenant people, who shall if they endure to the end, receive their inheritance and their glory at that day when He shall make His triumphant return to the earth, where all the wicked shall be cut off forever, and all the faithful shall be given their promised inheritance and their glory and dwell with the Lord of Lords and King of Kings forever. This is the greatest of all the gifts of God. Don’t cut yourself off from His presence over something like this when there are far weightier matters at hand. God bless you 🙏
@@newmanhoverd206 thank u very much though, but that scripture was explicit in stating that the dark skin was actually a curse so they would look loathsome to the nephites. I will always love my heavenly father and his son jesus christ and try to the best of my ability to be good and kind to everyone and anyone. But there's so much the church is admitting to right now that makes me wonder. Try reading the church history and gospel topic essay in ur library. I served a mission too here in my country Nigeria, I taught people the bom was translated by the power of god and now the church is admitting it was done with a stone in a hat? Or that Joseph married more than 36 wives, other mens wives included?
@@Eddie229 1 Nephi 2
19 And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto me, saying: Blessed art thou, Nephi, because of thy faith, for thou hast sought me diligently, with lowliness of heart.
20 And inasmuch as ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall prosper, and shall be led to a land of promise; yea, even a land which I have prepared for you; yea, a land which is choice above all other lands.
21 And inasmuch as thy brethren shall rebel against thee, they shall be cut off from the presence of the Lord.
Vs 20 the lord states the blessings. Vs 21 the lord states the curse. It is repeated over and over in the BOM. This was the pattern of blessing and cursing as found throughout the Old Testament as well. Which fits because Nephi lived during the law of Moses era.
But this passage in Alma 3 makes it abundantly clear:
6 And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.
7 And their brethren sought to destroy them, therefore they were cursed; and the Lord God set a mark upon them, yea, upon Laman and Lemuel, and also the sons of Ishmael, and Ishmaelitish women.
8 And this was done that their seed might be distinguished from the seed of their brethren, that thereby the Lord God might preserve his people, that they might not mix and believe in incorrect traditions which would prove their destruction.
The curse was because of their rebellion against God. The mark was to set them apart and keep the two people from intermingling. But once that curse was lifted through the anti Nephi Lehis, it didn’t matter since they were both the Lords people again.
“The stone in a hat”. Yes that was the seer stone and such information is quite old. It’s something only a prophet and seer can use. And it only works by the power of God. The hat, yes. It proves that he was not copying any one else’s notes or manuscripts, but received the words directly from God as a translation of the plates. I recall the account where Martin Harris, in a test for Joseph, swapped out the seer stone for a regular stone and Joseph could not translate with it, until Martin gave him back the real seer stone. This was the same seer stone used in the translation of the Jaredite plates, which was found in the box Moroni left for Joseph buried in the hill Cumorah. More proof that this was a divine work that only a true servant of God could have accomplished. There’s no good reason to doubt its authenticity brother. Especially not to doubt the witnesses of the spirit you’ve received directly through His Holy Spirit. REMEMBER. And never forget it!
"he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile." 2nd Nephi 26:33
Hey, she is cute.
Uhh...she was saying something about Mormons.
Omigosh! Just like every other religious historical text since the beginning of time. Shocked!
A loving God has created people with different color skins. I find this doctrine so disgusting.
Sorry, but the only skin curses in the Bible involved Moses sister Miriam and Naaman’s aide Gehazi.
Louis Farrakhan says the same thing just the other way around. 🤷🏻♂️
It's all bullshi*. After reading the bible I left Christianity. It's a horrible book. Can't cherry pick it.
the thing about this that people tend to forget, is that God loves everybody. No matter what, you are all his creations, and in the Book of Mormon, it wasn't just a whole tribe that suddenly became darked skinned. and those who decided to do wrong before the lord were cursed and were turned dark skin. We are told that even those with white skin we're turned dark skin because of their wickedness. Now it is a test to love each other as we are, and I'm sorry you are struggling with the things of the Book of Mormon but God is not a racist he never was he literally created you. He loves each and every one of you even if you don't believe in him or hate him.
And with the idea of the dark skinned people as loathsome people. It means the wicked who got themselves cursed and were turned to dark skin, became loathsome, they gathered together. But in the end it also talks about being kind and loving toward us. And we need to be kind and loving no matter what because now and then you are judged based on your actions. IF you are cruel towards someone no matter what color, you are going to be judged of God and receive consequences.
The God of the Bible made all colors. He made them man and woman. Some are tall some short. Jesus, God incarnate, was a middle eastern man. with middle eastern ethnic characteristics. Read your Bible to find truth, not the book of Mormon.
The only problem with the book of mormon, is the book of mormon!
Good thing it was written by an con man so who would believe that?
I remember learning about the "mud tribes" within the Mormon teachings years ago as a youth. This didn't sound right or make any sense to me.
The Bible however states quite clearly about The Shulammite maiden in King Solomon's court
Song of Solomon 1:5 describes her as "dark and lovely". 6 Sun-kissed 8 "Oh most beautiful of women.."
There weren't many if any "whites" in the Middle East and Mediterranean areas during Biblical times for obvious reasons.. The Sunshine
There used to be segregation in this country, I think in the early 1900's and up until recently. I don't know if this had anything to do, as far as one race believing that they were better than the other. But people usually change, when they get exposed to different people.
The US is more segregated now than it was when segregation was technically legal. I addressed this when I wrote my thesis on race and generational wealth inequality and how they relate to educational opportunities. Being exposed to diverse groups does help with this. Getting Mormons to interact with other groups of people is like telling a fish to join a soccer league though. They actively avoid it at every turn and are often told not to interact with Black people and non-Mormons.
Glad I left that cult.
I ask Allah to guide you all to the truth of Islam. Racism is a major sin in Islam and though people can be Muslim and still tribalistic and racist but it is not found within our doctrine. Racism is the original sin. If you would like to know more. Please research Islam from Islamic sources and visit your local Masjid.
How could you stay in a church that views you as less than or cursed because of your color or race?
Joseph Smith “filthy and dark? Isn’t that racist? Eh, I’m a colonizer.”
Where does it say this at
Outrageous. Disappointing people. Horrible thinking.
(My paraphrase)
"....Now there is neither Jew nor Roman, white or black....Woman or man but All are sons and daughters of God"
Bible and:
Because of Jesus.
In the The Bible book of Songs Of Solomon it says “I am black , BUT comely” meaning black even to those ppl back then us ugly , But she wasn’t. So how is The Bible not racist as well?
let's not forget God punished Mariam, I think that's her name, Moses sister for daring to complain that Moses married a black woman from Egypt. God sent her some good good leprosy. And only spared Aaron because he was a priest. why would God do that to a fair and excellent woman for a black and loathsome woman? I also highly feel the book of Mormon might be misunderstood. I haven't read it. Till I do , then maybe I'll get the whole picture.
The darker, the berry, the sweeter the juice it’s their loss
I believe the correct title is, “The Book For Morons”.
The book of Mormon is not divine revelation. Sorry not sorry.
every picture of Jesus in an LDS is depicted as a white Jesus Jesus 100% could not have been white and he wasn't as dark as some this makes many LDS people upset
Book is pure blasphemy, we are all children created by god & he loves people regardless of skin tone
SHAMEFUL.....Especially when God is described as a Bronze color man, with wool texture hair. SAD SAD SAD. Mormon faith should be canceled.
Dark and loathsome are two different descriptive words. They weren’t loathsome because they were dark. God made the loathsome people dark so that the other group could tell who the wicked people were so they wouldn’t intermingle. Here is how you can tell it isn’t racist:
Because God didn’t make them lighter once they repented. That is because the bad part isn’t the color. Remember there was even a prophet, Samuel the Lamanite.
I agree bro, is like when the lord made raw food taste good for them. But this woke people are sleeping x). Probably never read the whole book.
Spot on
It is true that Jesus Christ who was born in the Middle East was white like an Englishman, Jesus had dark skin like the Arabs should I deduce that he was cursed?
Imagine being so confident while not saying a single intelligent argument. Making them stand out by having dark skin still means they were cursed with dark skin, dipshit. You talked yourself in a circle. It’s also amazing to hear a racism apologist sit here and tell people who are on the receiving end of said racism that it isn’t actually racism. How about you come back when you learn not to gaslight people by saying we aren’t actually experiencing what we’re experiencing because you personally don’t think that we are as someone who has never once been through it.
For anyone claiming this to be about race, it’s not. Saints unscripted as a really good video, explaining how the “dark” skin is not talking about the literal dark skin. He uses references from the Bible as well to prove this point. Basic idea is that the “dark” skin is dark as in death or destruction, where as white is purity.
A little too late for damage control on this one..the Solar System knows racism when it sees it
If this is true, PLEASE explain Alma 55. Please!!!
I’m happy ppl are seeing the lies behind that cult. I invite everyone to read the clear Quran. You all seem to be able to use your intellect which is what God has given us to remember him and make sense of things. I am a revert 4 years now and it is the best decision I have ever made. I submitted my will to God, creator of the heavens and the earth. I’ve given up the pleasures of this world that pulls me away from him. And I am fully submitted to who created me. Because he has given me an understanding that to him we will all return.
People who get around to using their intellect instead of their feelings reject all religions.
Their skin tone was changed simply to tell them apart. The Lamanites were loathsome and filthy all on their own.
Perhaps you'd be fine if God had turned them green? Or you want to compare what happened with these people to now?
Did you actually listen to the verse? Why are you trying to change the meaning that's clearly there?
Maybe because you don't want to believe that's what it says?
Why didn't Nazis and serial killers turn black? They were white
….. “they were bad people, so they were cursed with dark skin to tell them apart from the good people, but dark skin wasn’t a curse and has nothing to do with being bad people.” You can’t be that stupid. You should be a gymnast. You’re extremely good at mental gymnastics.
The Jews in Jesus day had similar thoughts towards the Samaritan's, (a mixed race) Jesus taught the Jews a better way... this similar to what happens in the BOM when Jesus comes and also when Alma converts. My point is that the Nephites in the BOM we'rent done yet, just as the Jews weren't done. Just as we're not done until we all have Christlike love towards each other and there are no rich or poor among us. You need to read the whole book instead of selecting scriptures that teach your narrative.
But the whole book is made up. Native Americans are not and never have been Hebrew.
@@mitchrichardson744 I never said modern Natives were pure Hebrew.
1. The BOM says that the Laminates grew to be 4x as large as the Nephites despite having the same numbers when they started out. This means they likely mixed with other cultures that lived there. Marrying outside the Hebrew race was considered a sin in OT times. This explains why the Nephites saw the Laminates as cursed, also it explains why the Laminates had darker skin. So the laminates did not have pure Hebrew DNA to pass on.
2.The Nephites who did have pure Hebrew DNA were completely killed off by the end of the BOM.
3.90% of natives were killed off by diseases when white Europeans landed in the Americas, this was a major DNA bottleneck.
4.Modern DNA testing of human bones have linked Natives to Eurasia, Europe, Australia, and even the Middle East, where the BOM said they originated. The science is incomplete and the picture of the Americas look much more complex than we originally thought.
@@ARAZTXTN Only zealous mormons believe the DNA science is incomplete. Plus it was well known that the americans were settled from aisia even before DNA.
@@mitchrichardson744 Science requires humility. Anyone that says there's no room for our current understanding of history to change has an agenda.
For example, this is a clip from A Reuters article that I just googled.
"SAN ANTONIO, Texas (Reuters) - Native Americans have closer genetic ties to people in Eurasia, the Middle East and Europe than previously believed, according to new research on a 24,000-year-old human bone.,"
@@ARAZTXTN how on earth does bones from 24k thousand years ago help your case that 2500 years ago steel smelting Hebrews via boat settled an empty America? (There is more to say but I'd just be wasting time wouldnt I?)
Guess you haven't read the Christian Bible, huh?
Jesus is Lord Radio. Listen: "THE LORD SPEAKS AGAINST THE FALSE DOCTRINES & RACISM IN THE PRESENT DAY CHURCH" on Repent and Prepare the way.
Jesus Christ the LORD gives us the freedom to always speak the true Gospel (1Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 10:9-10) no matter where we are. Christ settled the race issue on the cross 2000 years ago. John 3:16, John 6:37. People who do not see this truth are blind. 2Corinthians 4:4.
The Lamanites become more righteous in the Book of Mormon and their seed will blossom in the last days! I know the Book of Mormon is true.
No, you don’t. You believe it’s true, but you don’t know that it’s true. You have no way of proving it; in fact, there are actually plenty of ways to disprove it. You’re still allowed to believe it if you would like. However, you do not know; you only feel. You and others like you need to take a pause and recognize that believing and knowing are not the same thing. This is BASIC logic that everyone should understand, and you are no exception - no matter how much you want to be. You’re not special. Your desire to believe in something does not make that thing factual. The world does not run on your opinions.
@@Josie-6 I know it is true because the spirit testifies the truth unto me. No man can tell me otherwise. God loves all.
@@eazycool9058subjective but, what about the Muslim that believes that the Quran is scripture and he knows through the power of God that it is true. There's no evidence to prove the Book of Mormon is true. Our personal feelings are deceiving Jeremiah 17:9 says not to trust the heart it can be very deceiving. Plus there were 4,000 changes made to the Book of Mormon like names, doctrine, and cities.
@@danielvega442 Listen to your heart when he's calling for you
Listen to your heart, there's nothing else you can do
I don't know where you're going and I don't know why
But listen to your heart before you tell him goodbye ❤️😆
@@eazycool9058 but the bible does say not to listen to the heart because you don't know if it's God or your own personal feelings. That's what I'm trying to say. Trust God's word over your heart. Thy word is truth.
This is awful… the Mormon church is a business.. f**k all that
Nope. There are actually at least 4 groups...And as a person chooses evil their countenance becomes darker.
It’s basically saying race mixing is bad which most would honestly agree with without saying it in modern times
@@GodofEbic it's right
how is it bad though?
That’s why I left that church
That’s not “scripture”.
That’s just disgusting! There are only people!
A set up for a great work of fiction that legitimized the social norms / beliefs of that time. (And pretty much still exists today)
That is not why. All are Gods children. He loves them all.
Those 2 groups of people are from the same Family, read it first then comment.
You guys can think whatever you want to make you feel good about yourselves, but the “Dark” skin and “Light” skin mentioned in the Book of Mormon was a reference to countenance, not the actual color of your skin 😂 I see how that translation from Hebrew to English can be a bit confusing to us at this point in time, but come on.
It’s fun to see all the other religions give Mormons grief for their wacky books.
Wait 😂 if you ever read the Book of Mormon… people do realize that the lamanites also became good while the nephites became bad… so tell me this… did they swap skin colors? And if they didn’t then why? Maybe because it wasn’t about the literal sense of skin color we are talking about 🤦🏾♂️