One point for anyone watching, NEVER cut a board wider than it is long using the fence, you are asking for kickback, always use the mitre guide or home made crosscut sled and move the fence out of the way or take it off. You were fortunate, others may not be. Sorry to be negative.
Had one of these for a couple of years, still using it, it's been a solid performer, the stand is a royal PITA to build, the mitre guage on mine is awful, and the dust extraction is abysmal, but, once you set it up and get it square it makes accurate cuts and stays dialled in. I put a soft start mod on mine and use a nicer blade in it, but it's a decent saw and I'd recommend it. I keep the stock blade for if I need to rough cut boards, or I'm using pallet wood that might have a nail still in it.
This was a helpful review but, nearly all table saws I've tried cut really well providing they have a decent blade. What really tells table saws apart is the quality and accuracy of the fence. If the fence is not very good or not set up well, you won't get perfectly square cuts. I have been looking at this saw so a review including the fence would have been even more helpful.
Nice video but It would have been even better had you reviewed how flat the table bed is, if the tracks are parallel to the blade, and how the fence performs.
i have one of these ive had it for a about a year now its the first table saw ive owned so i have nothing to compair it to i love it and really enjoy using it ive fitted a slow start motor to it because it kicks in pretty hard when starting up this has made a massive difference. i use saxton blades wich are better than the supplied blade and it cuts really well and smooth would i have another yes definatly i think its a fab saw for the price.
I've got the Fury version and would not be without it now. It did take awhile to set up correctly but I can't fault it. Evolution stuff is plenty good enough for most folks.
So far so good but you did not check the accuracy of the 45 deg cut or any of the similar measurements. From what you stated, the appearance of the cuts looks good but this needs some accuracy checks. This is where you should see the difference between a good tool and those others which are not so good. Thanks.
Sorry, it the dust extraction on this thing is useless. I sold mine and opted for the bit more expensive DeWalt table saw. Definitely worth the upgrade for the precision.
I’ve got the fury and I should have sent it back straightaway as the table is horribly uneven but being a newbie I thought I’d make do. The fence is pretty useless as well so I have to check and clamp it down, leave everything long and then fettle to size. We live and learn
This seemed a really good review. Well done on the video! I’m considering biting the bullet and investing in a table saw (as a DIYer) as I just can’t seem to ever cut straight with a hand saw. I’ve always been a bit scared though as it is a circular saw and can be dangerous. Does the extractor come with the product or is that a separate buy?
Interesting! I'm just getting into woodworking and looking to get both a table saw and a circular/tracksaw. I've never heard of this brand before and was looking to buy the DeWalt 7492 which is currently roughly the same price where I am as the Evolution but from a much more reputable retailer. The DeWalt's main con is that it doesn't have a built-in stand or wheels. I'd love to get your input.
You really need to explore having your own TV show, as I think there are loads of people out there who would benefit from your knowledge and superb presentations. Brilliant work and could save people so much money,especially in this present financial climate. Seriously assures like this would I guess have a great number of viewers. Keep up the awesome work.
i have had one of these saws for 3 years and it is accurate great fence.iThe only fault isthe dust colection is non existent on my model it may well have improved on later models.all you need from a saw good fence good blades and fols up to nothing highly recomend it
I almost bought one of these saws but there are a few issues I couldn’t live with. I eventually settled on a Metabo TS 254 M after watching a review and I even found it to be cheaper than the rage 5s too. Better quality and much more accurate.
What we're the issues? You've been asked now twice to provide this. If you have no substance to back up your comment then how can we take it seriously.
@@pgtips4240 I'm going to guess the big issue thats not said in this video that the blade size is not a common so there for you have to buy their blades at expensive prices. A quick google shows that the evolution blade is around £40 per blade but a 255mm blade with a 30mm bore you can get a pack of 3 trend brand ones for £70
Like some others on here, I also had issues with my Evolution saw and the amount of inaccuracies the cuts were producing, and returned them. Totally get that these are budget saws, but still I'd expect at least some degree of accuracy with cuts made on the saw.
Another good option, if it's available where you live, is the Skil TS6307. After reading some great reviews, I picked one up a few weeks ago and I've been very happy with it. I got it on sale for $300 (US). Mine was pretty well tuned out of the box, and getting it set up and dialed in only took me maybe half an hour. The rack and pinion fence is pretty nice, but don't expect much from the miter gauge. Can't expect the world from a $300 saw. The fold out legs don't look like much in pictures but are surprisingly solid and stable. The blade it came with gets the job done, but I think dedicated ripping and crosscut blades would give better finish quality cuts. Skil seems to be stepping up their game after their reputation took a dive years ago. I'm actually looking at their 10 amp router and router table combo for $200, too. Something to consider if you are on a budget or just getting started.
I just got a Skil for $299 too. Can't wait to start using it. Best selling point is the rack and pinion fence. This saw doesn't look like it has one. Just like my old basic Ryobi table saw, which will shortly go on the market.
I’d rather by the Hyundai 1800e- brilliant table saw, sturdy, accurate, 10”, easy to assemble, clear and precise instructions and easy to get replacement parts - £189- £209 uk
Can you advise me? I have an outside tap but it’s at the back of the kitchen extension and it emerges low down on the outside wall. The floor is concrete. There is a stop cock about 12 feet from the back of the house in the kitchen for turning off mains water in the event of an emergency. There is no exposed pipe work in the kitchen other than under the kitchen sink unit which is on the outside wall of the galley kitchen. I would like to reroute the outside tap from the back of the house to the side of the house to reduce the length of pipe involved and make it safer but I’m unable to work out how the outside tap pipe work, presumably under the concrete floor, connects to the cold water supply…🤔
Just bought this exact saw, the initial experience has been a bit poor, bought with next day delivery and it took 5 days to arrive as Evolution sent it out late and didn't use a next day service. On opening the box I found a few bolts and washers rattling around, eventually worked out where they went. As you said you have to build it, the paper manual is poor and their video is really bad, it runs too fast and has poor camera angles, ther are also errors on the video as you will discover when you end up with 4 spare washers that should go between the plastic base and the frame. I did a double check before turning on the saw and found the blade fouled the plastic dust shroud, Evolution got a new part to me in a couple of days and it seems fine now. There were also a couple of other minor issues, on the right side table extension there was a small dint and rust underneath the black paint in one corner, I don't think this will affect the use, but if it does I am sure Evolution would replace it. Haven't had a chance to test out the saw yet.
Evolution appears to hit my profile. I've seen reviews. I've bought few... and, following calls to suppliers, taken them back unused next day, as advised dead on arrival. If you're lucky with quality control, you get a superb vfm tool. Otherwise, modern returns policies are there for a reason - to retain customers. The phrase 'ridiculous amount of money' is disingenuous. Remember when 2GB external hard disk drive was £600. Tools similar - 35+ years ago, pro tools were vastly more expensive than today compared to income for pros and DiYers. We lose perspective and expect quality to cost very little. DeWalt jobsite table saw always comes top of reviews because it hits a sweetspot of price and quality - spend less, get a lot less, spend quite a lot more, and you get a bit more. If I needed a tablesaw, I'd get DeWalt. Track compatible circular saws have worked for me so far
I tried to cut a long hand saw to make it smaller with an evolution multi blade but it was all sparks and did not go through. However it went through steel bars ok. Do you know why is that?
Another great review. I'm in process of looking for a compound mitre saw and Evolution is top of the list. My table saw is a Titan from Screwfix, had it a few years and works well. Problem as you said, it doesn't fold up so is just in the way when not used. I hate it when not in use, love it when using it. Doing garage out next Yr and thinking of building the table saw into my workbench.
New Subscriber here, I enjoyed your content. I have one of these too, i like it overall, although it may need a bit of adjustment out of the box, to get accurate cuts, I've fitted a soft start, an stop button flap and other mods. love that it can cut metal, and fence clamps down on both sides. its idea for DIY use, and well priced. However like most table saws dust is hard to control, I find piles of dust on the floor, despite dust extract connected.
Sorry but I think you are 90percent wrong and 10percent correct, why do I say this?? Simple that for about the same price of the evolution you can get something much better and much more practical than the evolution and what’s even better is that if you’re going to do a bit diy for a friend or family member you can throw this mystery tool in the boot of most medium/large sized cars so what is this mystery tool…, Well it’s what’s known as a Table Top mitresaw which is exactly what it says it is it’s a mitresaw that has the ability to be transformed into a tablesaw in minutes and is available from a wide number of manufacturers from Bosch to Makita and all the way through to Ryobi and I know Evolution used to make one but can’t say for certain if they still make them, so you are not quite correct but it was still a good video all the same
Hi. I appreciate your comment and understand your view. However I stay honest with my audience. I only accept promotional videos if I believe in the product and I make that clear to any brand that approaches me. You would not believe the amount of emails I get weekly asking to make videos on terrible products. The evolution table saw is genuinely a great product and if it wasn't i wouldn't be saying so. Hope that helps.
@@TheDIYGuy1 Was this a sponsored video, and did you get the saw and extractor sent to review & send back, review & keep, or buy it yourself? It's not stated in the video, title or description.
And sadly they won't honour the warranty if you didn't use evolution blades (if they can prove it) amongst other things that were not mentioned in this advertisement.
Never stand as you did directly in line behind the piece of wood pushing through - if it kickbacks it’s going right into you - if you’re doing vids on table saws at least show good practice to newbies 👍🏻🥃
Brother! You're making me squirm with how you're using that table saw. Its so unsafe how you're using it. If you continue to do this you're dicing with an injury. Please use the sliding table/mitre slot when cutting sideways. Please, its just bad practice and really dangerous
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One point for anyone watching, NEVER cut a board wider than it is long using the fence, you are asking for kickback, always use the mitre guide or home made crosscut sled and move the fence out of the way or take it off. You were fortunate, others may not be. Sorry to be negative.
Just bought one for the misses for Christmas, she'll love it! 😁
hah!
😂😂😂😂
Had one of these for a couple of years, still using it, it's been a solid performer, the stand is a royal PITA to build, the mitre guage on mine is awful, and the dust extraction is abysmal, but, once you set it up and get it square it makes accurate cuts and stays dialled in. I put a soft start mod on mine and use a nicer blade in it, but it's a decent saw and I'd recommend it. I keep the stock blade for if I need to rough cut boards, or I'm using pallet wood that might have a nail still in it.
Absolutely 🤗
I bought one last year and i love it , the only mod ive done is to cut the very bottom of the blade gaurd underneath to let bits fall out
Had 2 evolution saws, sent them both back. The tables weren't close to being flat. Decent blade is the best thing I could say about them.
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This was a helpful review but, nearly all table saws I've tried cut really well providing they have a decent blade. What really tells table saws apart is the quality and accuracy of the fence. If the fence is not very good or not set up well, you won't get perfectly square cuts. I have been looking at this saw so a review including the fence would have been even more helpful.
Nice video but It would have been even better had you reviewed how flat the table bed is, if the tracks are parallel to the blade, and how the fence performs.
Thanks.
i have one of these ive had it for a about a year now its the first table saw ive owned so i have nothing to compair it to
i love it and really enjoy using it
ive fitted a slow start motor to it because it kicks in pretty hard when starting up this has made a massive difference.
i use saxton blades wich are better than the supplied blade and it cuts really well and smooth would i have another yes definatly
i think its a fab saw for the price.
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I have this saw. It’s great value for sure. 5% off is £14. Not sure if I would rush to take up that measly offer.
£14 is better than a wet fish in the face, I’ll take what I can these days
Yeah but you're comparing £14 to a wet fish in the face, when he wasn't going to get a wet Fish in the face, so its not a good comparison.
I've got the Fury version and would not be without it now. It did take awhile to set up correctly but I can't fault it. Evolution stuff is plenty good enough for most folks.
Absolutely. If your a keen DIYer or tradesman that doesn't use a table saw often then it's great.
So far so good but you did not check the accuracy of the 45 deg cut or any of the similar measurements. From what you stated, the appearance of the cuts looks good but this needs some accuracy checks. This is where you should see the difference between a good tool and those others which are not so good. Thanks.
Appreciate the feedback. It isn't always possible due to youtube's algorithms to cram in every fine detail. This video had to be short and snappy.
Sorry, it the dust extraction on this thing is useless. I sold mine and opted for the bit more expensive DeWalt table saw. Definitely worth the upgrade for the precision.
I’ve got the fury and I should have sent it back straightaway as the table is horribly uneven but being a newbie I thought I’d make do.
The fence is pretty useless as well so I have to check and clamp it down, leave everything long and then fettle to size.
We live and learn
This seemed a really good review. Well done on the video!
I’m considering biting the bullet and investing in a table saw (as a DIYer) as I just can’t seem to ever cut straight with a hand saw. I’ve always been a bit scared though as it is a circular saw and can be dangerous.
Does the extractor come with the product or is that a separate buy?
Interesting! I'm just getting into woodworking and looking to get both a table saw and a circular/tracksaw. I've never heard of this brand before and was looking to buy the DeWalt 7492 which is currently roughly the same price where I am as the Evolution but from a much more reputable retailer. The DeWalt's main con is that it doesn't have a built-in stand or wheels. I'd love to get your input.
A henry hoover, with a bit of fettling with the hoses as my dust extractor. Works a treat
😁 perfect
Thanks for detailed information which is much appreciated.
Anytime 👍
Love my Rage 5S, there are some really good tune up videos out there to make it even better for the DIYer
Absolutely 🙂
You really need to explore having your own TV show, as I think there are loads of people out there who would benefit from your knowledge and superb presentations. Brilliant work and could save people so much money,especially in this present financial climate. Seriously assures like this would I guess have a great number of viewers. Keep up the awesome work.
If anyone knows anyone who can give me a TV show then I'm all ears 👂🤣. Thanks a lot 😁
i have had one of these saws for 3 years and it is accurate great fence.iThe only fault isthe dust colection is non existent on my model it may well have improved on later models.all you need from a saw good fence good blades and fols up to nothing highly recomend it
I almost bought one of these saws but there are a few issues I couldn’t live with. I eventually settled on a Metabo TS 254 M after watching a review and I even found it to be cheaper than the rage 5s too. Better quality and much more accurate.
Thanks for sharing
What issues did you have with it?
What we're the issues you couldn't live with?
What we're the issues? You've been asked now twice to provide this. If you have no substance to back up your comment then how can we take it seriously.
@@pgtips4240 I'm going to guess the big issue thats not said in this video that the blade size is not a common so there for you have to buy their blades at expensive prices. A quick google shows that the evolution blade is around £40 per blade but a 255mm blade with a 30mm bore you can get a pack of 3 trend brand ones for £70
Like some others on here, I also had issues with my Evolution saw and the amount of inaccuracies the cuts were producing, and returned them. Totally get that these are budget saws, but still I'd expect at least some degree of accuracy with cuts made on the saw.
That's unfortunate. My evolution saw has been great so far.
mine has been super accurate@@TheDIYGuy1
Another good option, if it's available where you live, is the Skil TS6307. After reading some great reviews, I picked one up a few weeks ago and I've been very happy with it. I got it on sale for $300 (US). Mine was pretty well tuned out of the box, and getting it set up and dialed in only took me maybe half an hour. The rack and pinion fence is pretty nice, but don't expect much from the miter gauge. Can't expect the world from a $300 saw. The fold out legs don't look like much in pictures but are surprisingly solid and stable. The blade it came with gets the job done, but I think dedicated ripping and crosscut blades would give better finish quality cuts. Skil seems to be stepping up their game after their reputation took a dive years ago. I'm actually looking at their 10 amp router and router table combo for $200, too. Something to consider if you are on a budget or just getting started.
Thanks for sharing your experience
I just got a Skil for $299 too. Can't wait to start using it. Best selling point is the rack and pinion fence. This saw doesn't look like it has one. Just like my old basic Ryobi table saw, which will shortly go on the market.
Flying metal bits (Swarf 😂) love it great revue just subscribed to your channel 👍🏼
Thanks for subscribing 👍
I’d rather by the Hyundai 1800e- brilliant table saw, sturdy, accurate, 10”, easy to assemble, clear and precise instructions and easy to get replacement parts - £189- £209 uk
Gonna buy one of these saw tables not for diy but to be able to cut my other half’s Sunday roast might as well be made out of wood
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You did a number of cuts, that was useful, but it would have been useful to explore how good the fence is and the blade tilt mechanism is any good.
Thanks for the feedback
the fence is great on this saw very solid and straight@@TheDIYGuy1
Can you advise me? I have an outside tap but it’s at the back of the kitchen extension and it emerges low down on the outside wall. The floor is concrete. There is a stop cock about 12 feet from the back of the house in the kitchen for turning off mains water in the event of an emergency. There is no exposed pipe work in the kitchen other than under the kitchen sink unit which is on the outside wall of the galley kitchen. I would like to reroute the outside tap from the back of the house to the side of the house to reduce the length of pipe involved and make it safer but I’m unable to work out how the outside tap pipe work, presumably under the concrete floor, connects to the cold water supply…🤔
Can you pls help with the link of the safety glass which you’re using in this video ?
Just bought this exact saw, the initial experience has been a bit poor, bought with next day delivery and it took 5 days to arrive as Evolution sent it out late and didn't use a next day service. On opening the box I found a few bolts and washers rattling around, eventually worked out where they went. As you said you have to build it, the paper manual is poor and their video is really bad, it runs too fast and has poor camera angles, ther are also errors on the video as you will discover when you end up with 4 spare washers that should go between the plastic base and the frame. I did a double check before turning on the saw and found the blade fouled the plastic dust shroud, Evolution got a new part to me in a couple of days and it seems fine now. There were also a couple of other minor issues, on the right side table extension there was a small dint and rust underneath the black paint in one corner, I don't think this will affect the use, but if it does I am sure Evolution would replace it. Haven't had a chance to test out the saw yet.
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍
Just bought this, used your discount code too. Thanks for the review, found it really helpful.
Top lad keep up the good work..
Thanks 👍
Evolution appears to hit my profile. I've seen reviews. I've bought few... and, following calls to suppliers, taken them back unused next day, as advised dead on arrival. If you're lucky with quality control, you get a superb vfm tool. Otherwise, modern returns policies are there for a reason - to retain customers.
The phrase 'ridiculous amount of money' is disingenuous. Remember when 2GB external hard disk drive was £600. Tools similar - 35+ years ago, pro tools were vastly more expensive than today compared to income for pros and DiYers. We lose perspective and expect quality to cost very little. DeWalt jobsite table saw always comes top of reviews because it hits a sweetspot of price and quality - spend less, get a lot less, spend quite a lot more, and you get a bit more. If I needed a tablesaw, I'd get DeWalt. Track compatible circular saws have worked for me so far
Appreciate your views 😊
I tried to cut a long hand saw to make it smaller with an evolution multi blade but it was all sparks and did not go through. However it went through steel bars ok. Do you know why is that?
great knowledge that is shared success is always👍💯
Thanks. Glad you enjoy my vids
How about a review of the evolution dust extractor with several power tools.
See what I can do 👍
Is the bed solid alloy or tin? Lumberjack ts 254 has solid bed for around £250
Man I'd love the skil tsblesaw but to get one in the UK is not far off a grand!!
Another great review. I'm in process of looking for a compound mitre saw and Evolution is top of the list. My table saw is a Titan from Screwfix, had it a few years and works well. Problem as you said, it doesn't fold up so is just in the way when not used. I hate it when not in use, love it when using it. Doing garage out next Yr and thinking of building the table saw into my workbench.
Great idea 😊
Brilliant Thank you
You're very welcome
Great review
Thanks a lot
I've recently bought an einhell 2000w table saw from toolstation, pretty good saw out the box but the fence is abit naf.
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It’s out of stock for me 😢 I’ll try again after Christmas 👍
There are a number of resellers worth considering
New Subscriber here, I enjoyed your content.
I have one of these too, i like it overall, although it may need a bit of adjustment out of the box, to get accurate cuts,
I've fitted a soft start, an stop button flap and other mods. love that it can cut metal, and fence clamps down on both sides. its idea for DIY use, and well priced.
However like most table saws dust is hard to control, I find piles of dust on the floor, despite dust extract connected.
Thanks for subscribing and glad you like my content. Thanks for your opinions on the saw
Came for the east Anglian accent, stay for the tips
Hah! Thanks
@@TheDIYGuy1 Suffolk?
@@soundman127ounds a little closer to Norfolk but as far as Naaaridge.
Could be Suffolk
Maybe lowestoft area, but could be Norfolk, only next door, great Yarmouth and further
Interesting review. But how much?
Can anyone help me? I know there is a 110v version and a 240v version which one do I need to buy
Is this saw 110v or 230v? Your link is to a 110v version, not many diyers would have a transformer.
This is 230v. Thanks for pointing the mistake out. I will change that link 👍
Sorry but I think you are 90percent wrong and 10percent correct, why do I say this?? Simple that for about the same price of the evolution you can get something much better and much more practical than the evolution and what’s even better is that if you’re going to do a bit diy for a friend or family member you can throw this mystery tool in the boot of most medium/large sized cars so what is this mystery tool…,
Well it’s what’s known as a Table Top mitresaw which is exactly what it says it is it’s a mitresaw that has the ability to be transformed into a tablesaw in minutes and is available from a wide number of manufacturers from Bosch to Makita and all the way through to Ryobi and I know Evolution used to make one but can’t say for certain if they still make them, so you are not quite correct but it was still a good video all the same
Cool video.
Glad you like it 👍
Nice 1 👍
Thanks 😊
I have a Dewalt tablet saw.
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That blade is a too high. Great video though
Pity you didn't check the accuracy of the cuts as this would have been very important. information.
Not so keen on the 'paid promotion' vids. You're not gonna say its shite
Hi. I appreciate your comment and understand your view. However I stay honest with my audience. I only accept promotional videos if I believe in the product and I make that clear to any brand that approaches me. You would not believe the amount of emails I get weekly asking to make videos on terrible products. The evolution table saw is genuinely a great product and if it wasn't i wouldn't be saying so. Hope that helps.
@@TheDIYGuy1 Was this a sponsored video, and did you get the saw and extractor sent to review & send back, review & keep, or buy it yourself?
It's not stated in the video, title or description.
@@cedarstuff Says it top left "Includes paid promotion"
And sadly they won't honour the warranty if you didn't use evolution blades (if they can prove it) amongst other things that were not mentioned in this advertisement.
Great tool…..watch your hands and fingers guys!
You got that right!
dewalt few more ££ and is better I think?
SO it COSTS £400.00, Not exactly a cheap one for simple DIY.
But is it 45 degrees accurate…
Yes it is
ADVERT.... A CLEAN CUT DEPENDS ON THE BLADE QUALITY NOT THE SAW
You keep mentioning price but don't tell us the price - we have to click through for it - why?
The link is in the description.
Foolish. Rermoving the hold down from the piece that is trapped between the blade and the fence while the blade is still rotating!
Evolution gear is cheap and nasty you get what you pay for !
Never stand as you did directly in line behind the piece of wood pushing through - if it kickbacks it’s going right into you - if you’re doing vids on table saws at least show good practice to newbies 👍🏻🥃
Brother! You're making me squirm with how you're using that table saw. Its so unsafe how you're using it. If you continue to do this you're dicing with an injury. Please use the sliding table/mitre slot when cutting sideways. Please, its just bad practice and really dangerous