The influence of the storm can be seen around the lands between and in the shadow realm. If we look at storm related weapons and Ash of wars, they are based on strength as well as dexterity (Quality affinity), this also includes elemental weapons like stormhawk axe, icerind axe, veteran prosthesis, etc. And Divine beast and hornsents enemies have property of attribute boosting of strength and dexterity. Interesting to see the idea of original divinity is not based on someones faith or any sort of intelligence. If you enjoy the video give it a like and also subscribe, so this video reaches as many people as possible. Thanks.
Some more stuff about storm: when Godrick used the storm, he can also include dragon fire. The second Dancing Lion also includes Death Blight. So with Scarlet Rot from the commander, storm can really include anything. The Farum Azula beastmen also have lion heads. The lions with a sword also have a move similar to Storm Assault.
@@mayhemivory5730 farum azula beast and dragons, and hornsents beast have many thing common looks like there path divided a long time ago, similarity is still there. I have mentioned Commander O'Neill got scarlet rot infused, but that is not because of the storm, many creatures or environments get inflicted or infused with other elements. For example, dragons, the land squirt around lands between.
@@anhad004 O'Neil isnt actually afflicted with Scarlet Rot. He doesn't share the weakness to fire than other rot enemies have. Instead, he's actually immune to rot - something that not even Malenia can boast. I personally think storm simply has the ability to carry along the surrounding elements.
@@anhad004 I also just had another thought: dont the Gargoyles have wind attacks infused with Destined Death and poison? I seem to recall either the twinblade or the axe having a black effect in case of the Black Blade Kindred.
Surrounding element fusing together with many things around the world of elden ring. The frenzied rats, lightning goats, especially crabs (Sleep, Godwyn's death, etc.) storm is one of those bases.
I thought the same about Serosh being the storm lord of stormveil, but The Stormhawk ashes do say he was a proud sovereign. So I do think the storm hawk was “king” of stormveil. But I think Serosh may have been something akin to a god or minor deity to the hornsent.
Two other things: the shadow lands weren’t enshrouded until around the time Godfrey defeated the giants. So Mesmer and Godfrey would definitely have both been generals early in merika’s campaign. Secondly Stormveil is probably VERY old with only the gilding of the ramparts, the church, and some carvings added later under Godfrey.
My point was even if Serosh may not be the stormlord, he is definitely a top candidate of that status. And Messmer and Godfrey's alliance in the giants crusade, I should have mentioned it. I wasn't sure about the Messmer part in that war back when I was recording.
The timeline of elden ring is extremely vast, if I'm talking about very old and ancient means there existed the idea that only one form of divinity of Hornsents, and in that only one strict philosophy for architecture existed and Stormveil castle doesn't follow them. Stormveil castle should be formed around the same time as the lower sections of Lendyell.
Marika was a... *checks lore notes* a DUDE?? oh alright. great video man! love the funny stuff throughout. another week, another standout Elden Ring lore RUclipsr to sub to.
I really like the video but I think there are two item/lore descriptions that contradict it a bit. Godfrey put Serosh on him when he became Godfrey. There is another thing stating that Godfrey defeated the giants, faced the storm lord and then basically became tarnished because he had no more worthy foe. Not a total contradiction, but I think it becomes a stretch to say Serosh is the stormlord when it seems he faced the Stormlord after defeating the giants and already being Godfrey. However, it could also mean that he didn't become Godfrey by name until he faced Serosh who is the stormlord. He drops his battlelust, and chills as he has no more strong foes to fight.
@@johncrondis4563 yes, you're right. The point of time when Serosh and Godfrey met in the Elden ring timeline does not match with my statement. If not a stormlord Serosh is definitely a candidate for that post. The storm cult around Godfrey and Serosh, and the storm's connection to divine beast is more than a coincidence.
Did you mention storm king, the ash we find in Nepheli's questline? He's a hawk and an ash that's different in that it, similar to divine birds, is very picky about who it will respond to.
@@anhad004 "Ashes of a hawk revered by all others as sovereign back in the days when Stormveil's winds still raged like no other." Revered as sovereign of Stormveil. It's quite a big info for me, pointing more toward the Stormhawk as the Stormlord than Serosh, at least as the first/original lord. The Divine Bird armor also confirms this : "The very first of all horned warriors" Making the Divine Bird Warriors as those who came before the Divine Beast Warriors and Sculpted Keepers. And so the Stormhawk before Serosh. And also why Lions became prefered in the Divine Beast cult : "Divine birds are known to be cruel, never taking to human companionship" Lions are maybe more akin to take human companionship (like Serosh with Hoarah Loux), thus why they are more revered by the Hornsents.
There is one point that you have not mentionned, or that I missed: what we see on Godfrey is top half part of Serosh, as if Serosh had been cut into 2, and has been forced to become etheral and attached to Godfrey, to survive. The second it leaves its etheral form, it is killed by Godfrey, likely to alleviate its suffuring.
I do not think that Serosh is the reason for the existence of Mohg and Morgot for a very simple reason: Serosh does not have horns itself at all. Mohg and Morgot birth with horns would likely be the result of a curse from the Shadow land powerful habitants, from a rest of horns in Marika from the time she was a champion of the shadowland, or as the presence of the crucible power on the land between even after being destroyed, burn, whatever
That is a good point, Serosh in a spirit/etheral form but in a damaged form is very similar to Miquella at Radahn's back. If you see closely Miquella is missing an arm. And we learn from him that achieving such form requires letting your physical flesh away. Maybe Serosh had a similar thing as well.
About Mohg and Morgott being omens reason, I have mentioned the lack of horns on Serosh point in the video. I wanted to include it to speculate even further in theory. The more you branch in wildest in Elden Ring theory, more stuff gets uncovered. Let just say I was running wild at the end of the video. 😅
I would like to point out, it's hard to have a story live on when the faction that fights the guy who has death in his sword to still be alive. Also, like the banished the shadow lands, why keep record of a power at all that can fight death, a sword with death but still. There is nothing on them because who is left is it. Thought it was clear
Stormhawk king is said to had high authority in Stormveil castle. But there is no such thing stated of its connection to Divine beasts who are actually much closely related to storm nature.
Isn’t weird how all the grand symbols used for the golden order are stuff Marika stole from other cultures ? Marika the eternal ? Nah MARIKA THE CONTENT THIEF ! 🤩😂🤣
Yellow lightning is base lightning, only that was given to the dragon cult followers, the actual lightning related to dragons is red ancient lightning. Yellow lightning = general purpose lightning.
@@anhad004 ok honed bolt and lightning spear comes from the dragon cult prayer book and is practiced by those in the ancient dragon cult. Not just dragon cult. That’s in its description
@@anhad004 not really sure how someone could think they’re not related to ancient dragons. Drakes don’t use lightning. Description specifically mentions ancient dragon cult
Like the theory. Could it be that Marika knee Serosh and Godfrey would refuse to go against the Greater Will? The only person she could completely trust is herself.
@@SMac86 it can happen, she used Godfrey and Serosh to wage war and after they had no use to her and Godfrey's eyes golden hue faded she decided to exile them far away from the lands of gold. Can't trust anyone else
Can be looted from Nepheli in Stormveil or given by her in Roundtable hold. The second copy of the weapon is available, if you haven't done her Questline, in the roundtable duplicate in Lendyell and in Castle Sol. There are actually multiple ways to get this weapon. Only mentioned Stormveil for its connection.
Nah Marika birthed omens because all evidence points to her having a hornsent parent somewhere in her family tree, possible father or grandfather "hence why she is empyrean too maybe she was the grandchild of the hornsent god ? Hence why it was considered betrayal when she became god ? That's just theory of course" omens are just hornsent after all Also it is directly stated that Marika kicked Godfrey out so that he and the tarnished would return later as part of her big plan
@@dragonslayer3552 Marika and her people from Shaman village are not related Hornsents. They are a completely different group of people. Another possible way of the omen curse of Mohg and Morgott is Marika like her people were stuffed and mixed with a lot of creatures and material in the sense one of them will emerge as Saints. Which Marika did, that's why she ascended to godhood and possible different creature properties were in here as she was an amalgamation of a million things including other horned creatures. But originally she is nowhere related to Hornsents.
@@anhad004 they aren't related but they were neighbors so the 2 could have intercourse and they can have children perfectly fine, not only that but the hornsent grandma in belurat is a hornsent empyrean which means hornsent had a god and that god did have empyrean children, so it's not much of a stretch to say that Marika was one of those children or a grandchild Marika was also never implied to be a jar saint, from what we see the jar saint process was a resounding failure that was mostly tested on criminals and messmer even unsuccessful tried fixing them, overall the only evidence of Marika being a jar saint could be considered radagon as maybe they mixed together in there ? But from Trina and D we can see that it's actually a normal thing in the lands between to be born as 2 people in one body so that theory falls flat too
The influence of the storm can be seen around the lands between and in the shadow realm.
If we look at storm related weapons and Ash of wars, they are based on strength as well as dexterity (Quality affinity), this also includes elemental weapons like stormhawk axe, icerind axe, veteran prosthesis, etc. And Divine beast and hornsents enemies have property of attribute boosting of strength and dexterity.
Interesting to see the idea of original divinity is not based on someones faith or any sort of intelligence.
If you enjoy the video give it a like and also subscribe, so this video reaches as many people as possible.
Thanks.
Now, finally the beast and tree armor set of Stormveil makes sense. It commemorates the union between the Stormveil and the erdtree. Thank you
Yup, also the orange color shows the orange tinted crucible and green is for the Erdtree union.
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Some more stuff about storm: when Godrick used the storm, he can also include dragon fire. The second Dancing Lion also includes Death Blight. So with Scarlet Rot from the commander, storm can really include anything.
The Farum Azula beastmen also have lion heads.
The lions with a sword also have a move similar to Storm Assault.
@@mayhemivory5730 farum azula beast and dragons, and hornsents beast have many thing common looks like there path divided a long time ago, similarity is still there. I have mentioned Commander O'Neill got scarlet rot infused, but that is not because of the storm, many creatures or environments get inflicted or infused with other elements. For example, dragons, the land squirt around lands between.
@@anhad004 O'Neil isnt actually afflicted with Scarlet Rot. He doesn't share the weakness to fire than other rot enemies have. Instead, he's actually immune to rot - something that not even Malenia can boast.
I personally think storm simply has the ability to carry along the surrounding elements.
@@anhad004 I also just had another thought: dont the Gargoyles have wind attacks infused with Destined Death and poison? I seem to recall either the twinblade or the axe having a black effect in case of the Black Blade Kindred.
Surrounding element fusing together with many things around the world of elden ring. The frenzied rats, lightning goats, especially crabs (Sleep, Godwyn's death, etc.) storm is one of those bases.
I thought the same about Serosh being the storm lord of stormveil, but The Stormhawk ashes do say he was a proud sovereign. So I do think the storm hawk was “king” of stormveil. But I think Serosh may have been something akin to a god or minor deity to the hornsent.
Two other things: the shadow lands weren’t enshrouded until around the time Godfrey defeated the giants. So Mesmer and Godfrey would definitely have both been generals early in merika’s campaign. Secondly Stormveil is probably VERY old with only the gilding of the ramparts, the church, and some carvings added later under Godfrey.
Thirdly, great video.
My point was even if Serosh may not be the stormlord, he is definitely a top candidate of that status.
And Messmer and Godfrey's alliance in the giants crusade, I should have mentioned it. I wasn't sure about the Messmer part in that war back when I was recording.
The timeline of elden ring is extremely vast, if I'm talking about very old and ancient means there existed the idea that only one form of divinity of Hornsents, and in that only one strict philosophy for architecture existed and Stormveil castle doesn't follow them. Stormveil castle should be formed around the same time as the lower sections of Lendyell.
@@anhad004 yeah, I think that’s right. Older than the new part of the capital, newer than Ike rauh ruins or belurat.
Marika was a... *checks lore notes* a DUDE?? oh alright. great video man! love the funny stuff throughout. another week, another standout Elden Ring lore RUclipsr to sub to.
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I really like the video but I think there are two item/lore descriptions that contradict it a bit. Godfrey put Serosh on him when he became Godfrey. There is another thing stating that Godfrey defeated the giants, faced the storm lord and then basically became tarnished because he had no more worthy foe. Not a total contradiction, but I think it becomes a stretch to say Serosh is the stormlord when it seems he faced the Stormlord after defeating the giants and already being Godfrey.
However, it could also mean that he didn't become Godfrey by name until he faced Serosh who is the stormlord. He drops his battlelust, and chills as he has no more strong foes to fight.
@@johncrondis4563 yes, you're right. The point of time when Serosh and Godfrey met in the Elden ring timeline does not match with my statement. If not a stormlord Serosh is definitely a candidate for that post. The storm cult around Godfrey and Serosh, and the storm's connection to divine beast is more than a coincidence.
Great video man, I like your hypothesis, seems legit
Did you mention storm king, the ash we find in Nepheli's questline? He's a hawk and an ash that's different in that it, similar to divine birds, is very picky about who it will respond to.
@@tn7403 yes I have mentioned stormhawk king in the video. I made the connection of it to the divine birds but there is not much info about it.
@@anhad004 "Ashes of a hawk revered by all others as sovereign back in the days when Stormveil's winds still raged like no other."
Revered as sovereign of Stormveil. It's quite a big info for me, pointing more toward the Stormhawk as the Stormlord than Serosh, at least as the first/original lord.
The Divine Bird armor also confirms this :
"The very first of all horned warriors"
Making the Divine Bird Warriors as those who came before the Divine Beast Warriors and Sculpted Keepers. And so the Stormhawk before Serosh.
And also why Lions became prefered in the Divine Beast cult :
"Divine birds are known to be cruel, never taking to human companionship"
Lions are maybe more akin to take human companionship (like Serosh with Hoarah Loux), thus why they are more revered by the Hornsents.
Radahn and his lion merchandise😂
Great theory, amazing video 👏
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There is one point that you have not mentionned, or that I missed: what we see on Godfrey is top half part of Serosh, as if Serosh had been cut into 2, and has been forced to become etheral and attached to Godfrey, to survive. The second it leaves its etheral form, it is killed by Godfrey, likely to alleviate its suffuring.
I do not think that Serosh is the reason for the existence of Mohg and Morgot for a very simple reason: Serosh does not have horns itself at all. Mohg and Morgot birth with horns would likely be the result of a curse from the Shadow land powerful habitants, from a rest of horns in Marika from the time she was a champion of the shadowland, or as the presence of the crucible power on the land between even after being destroyed, burn, whatever
That is a good point, Serosh in a spirit/etheral form but in a damaged form is very similar to Miquella at Radahn's back. If you see closely Miquella is missing an arm. And we learn from him that achieving such form requires letting your physical flesh away. Maybe Serosh had a similar thing as well.
About Mohg and Morgott being omens reason, I have mentioned the lack of horns on Serosh point in the video. I wanted to include it to speculate even further in theory. The more you branch in wildest in Elden Ring theory, more stuff gets uncovered. Let just say I was running wild at the end of the video. 😅
Wish I was the storm lord. I'd conjure up storms at the grocery store in the ice cream section
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Great vid bro great points brought up
Glad you enjoyed
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I would like to point out, it's hard to have a story live on when the faction that fights the guy who has death in his sword to still be alive. Also, like the banished the shadow lands, why keep record of a power at all that can fight death, a sword with death but still. There is nothing on them because who is left is it. Thought it was clear
there’s literally an item called the stormhawk king and it says that he used to rule over stormvail
Stormhawk king is said to had high authority in Stormveil castle. But there is no such thing stated of its connection to Divine beasts who are actually much closely related to storm nature.
Isn’t weird how all the grand symbols used for the golden order are stuff Marika stole from other cultures ? Marika the eternal ? Nah MARIKA THE CONTENT THIEF ! 🤩😂🤣
She blurred the line between inspiration and stealing. 😂
More like a-marika lol
Ah dang this was kinda disapointing i was hoping the stormlord was gonna be a boss u can fight
@@c3lestrial227 he shares the same faith as Godwyn's.
Yellow lightning is also related to ancient dragons. Especially honed bolt and lightning spear.
Yellow lightning is base lightning, only that was given to the dragon cult followers, the actual lightning related to dragons is red ancient lightning. Yellow lightning = general purpose lightning.
@@anhad004 ok honed bolt and lightning spear comes from the dragon cult prayer book and is practiced by those in the ancient dragon cult. Not just dragon cult. That’s in its description
@@anhad004 not really sure how someone could think they’re not related to ancient dragons. Drakes don’t use lightning. Description specifically mentions ancient dragon cult
Like the theory. Could it be that Marika knee Serosh and Godfrey would refuse to go against the Greater Will? The only person she could completely trust is herself.
@@SMac86 it can happen, she used Godfrey and Serosh to wage war and after they had no use to her and Godfrey's eyes golden hue faded she decided to exile them far away from the lands of gold. Can't trust anyone else
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02:16 think thats in Lyndell actually
Can be looted from Nepheli in Stormveil or given by her in Roundtable hold. The second copy of the weapon is available, if you haven't done her Questline, in the roundtable duplicate in Lendyell and in Castle Sol. There are actually multiple ways to get this weapon. Only mentioned Stormveil for its connection.
@@anhad004 my mistake
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Nah Marika birthed omens because all evidence points to her having a hornsent parent somewhere in her family tree, possible father or grandfather "hence why she is empyrean too maybe she was the grandchild of the hornsent god ? Hence why it was considered betrayal when she became god ? That's just theory of course" omens are just hornsent after all
Also it is directly stated that Marika kicked Godfrey out so that he and the tarnished would return later as part of her big plan
@@dragonslayer3552 Marika and her people from Shaman village are not related Hornsents. They are a completely different group of people. Another possible way of the omen curse of Mohg and Morgott is Marika like her people were stuffed and mixed with a lot of creatures and material in the sense one of them will emerge as Saints. Which Marika did, that's why she ascended to godhood and possible different creature properties were in here as she was an amalgamation of a million things including other horned creatures. But originally she is nowhere related to Hornsents.
@@anhad004 they aren't related but they were neighbors so the 2 could have intercourse and they can have children perfectly fine, not only that but the hornsent grandma in belurat is a hornsent empyrean which means hornsent had a god and that god did have empyrean children, so it's not much of a stretch to say that Marika was one of those children or a grandchild
Marika was also never implied to be a jar saint, from what we see the jar saint process was a resounding failure that was mostly tested on criminals and messmer even unsuccessful tried fixing them, overall the only evidence of Marika being a jar saint could be considered radagon as maybe they mixed together in there ? But from Trina and D we can see that it's actually a normal thing in the lands between to be born as 2 people in one body so that theory falls flat too
@@dragonslayer3552 there is no such defined origin, mine theory was a speculation and there could be many ways to speculate like this.
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funny ahh video