KKK vs Lumbee Tribe - The Battle of Hayes Pond
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- On January 18th, 1958, the Ku Klux Klan got more than it was looking for in the guise of hundreds of armed Lumbee tribe members.
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It's always a treat to hear these lesser-known stories. Helps add perspective that most people will never get.
I never realized how many of these types of stories go unheard because they're just completely omitted from the history books, it's actually shocking once you realize it. A real eye-opener.
a lot to cover and very little time. the 7 years (french Indian) war, Napoleonic wars, WWI,... are all glossed over in both US and world history classes that and there are certain groups that don't want to show guns in a positive lite but I wish stories like this were in the sidebars of our history textbooks.
Read the book "A Peoples History of the United States." Lots of history that is omitted from education.
It's often important not to forget that history in school is divided between american, state and local history through various grades. It's eeked out in bits to suit the grade levels. Anything beyond that is floated to elective classes one can take in high school and beyond. While it's important to be inclusive about the good and bad in US and state history, there is a lot of it and to decry missed opportunities that we, we could have, ourselves missed out of in learning this stuff, is on us. This in-depth history is available in school, if only as an elective. If one to ignore the many options in university, well that's because we really didn't care, and that has to be learned this way, or by our elders.
nobody died. its not that big of a deal. the klan would be attacked anywhere the police don't protect them.
You have to wonder why these stories are omitted. Almost like there might be underlying agendas from pervasive and deeply-entrenched beliefs.
This year's inrange historical content is the best its ever been.
I second that brother...!!!
It's astonishing. It's also astounding that we are hearing of this history for the first time via this great channel.
Oh hell yes. I love those old west videos and human rights stories.
Yes it has.
Boxelder Initiative What’s wrong with discussing this instance where Americans successfully used the 2A to defend their rights and drive off a bunch of cowardly terrorists?
Sir,
I am a person of color and a disabled combat veteran. Thank you for this story. It tells of "American" strength and the want to not be a victim. I have always hoped for equality for all and your story is a step in the right direction! Thank You
This Aussie thanks you for your service.
The pictures of the dudes playing around with the flag and their smiles are priceless
Yeah that’s truly the face of victory!
I hope they kept it. To serve as a physical reminder of their (fortunately bloodless) victory against the KKK.
The real reason, hell, the only reason, to preserve such symbols
It really is. I'm glad the Lumbee victors took pictures to memorialize their victory.
You might be cool but you'll never be "photographed in Life magazine wrapped in the captured KKK flag you got from beating down a klan rally" cool
So you’re telling me dudes who dress in bed sheets arnt that tactically capable and leave their wives and children when threatened ?
The KKK was always a (white) gentlemen's club in reality.
"Racist cowards in hoods confronted, flee, leave behind women and children."
@@LessDevoid Fanatic cowards in hoods. Fanatics are dangerous no matter what they are on.
@@EminemLovesGrapes I think i (and i would guess i am not alone) have a different definition of the word "gentlemen".
@@nirfz You are not alone. They were not men- males, for a certain value, but but when you not only hide your face under a hood but run off an abandon your loved ones... no, testicles do not a man make.
That you so much for featuring my tribe!!!
My wife is full Lumber. When I showed this video, she knew all about this incident. And she was adopted at a very young age by an awesome non-native family.
The Lumber people are very interesting and have an amazing history of self betterment and growth. They have had a history of independence when many native peoples did not. From the 1500"s onward they were never subjected the the level of outside control that most others were. They had their own bank and their own university. Most were literate long before most other native people were. And the Lumbees were often looked on and accepted as regular members of society long before others.
Thanks for letting me rant on. Peace
the lumbee murder rate is 5x the national average. you all like to fight. the kkk should have done their research before messing around there.
Met some during my time in nc. Quite apart from being exceptionally good looking in a fierce way they were very polite, chatty and welcoming of my interest in them.
I had read up on the tribe prior to arriving. I have to say meeting them was my highlight of the visit.
Thank you for being so awesome.
@@bthsr7113 what did he/she do?
Truth makes the world a better place. Having this come from a non-indian is inspiring to me. Thank you for the information and keep making the world a better place.
I do also think it's a positive someone in the gun community it's speaking out of line I would say of the current NRA? Like Philando Castile...where was the NRA when that happened? Why wasn't the gun community outraged? I don't have that answer for you, but I got a guess or two...
youre native to your own culture ❤️ and they’re all beautiful in their own ways!!
Karl, this a great idea. More people need to learn this kind of history. Because they always say if you forget history your doomed to repeat it.
it never stopped repeating
That's why you read literature.
Lets hope history repeats,racists need to learn the divine truth, all men and women are born equal and a firearm can prove that.
_History is racist and must be torn down. Year Zero will erase all history_
@@TheGM-20XX yeah bud we totes need statues to remember how the fucking south rebelled like how German needs statues of hitler to remember the holocaust oh wait they dont.
I'd say I'm here for the Mackinac Bridge in the thumbnail but that's a lie -- I'm here for the Klan getting publicly pantsed by the Lumbee.
I like the part where they were extremely outnumbered
I like when your on the inside lane and the metal goes VVVVTT VVVVT VVVVT and I also like how they only take card now
and I REALLY like Americans using their second ammendment exactly the way it was intended
Fun fact: actress Heather Locklear is part Lumbee.
@@keithkeyser9546 as they always will be.
They helped the clansmens wife and kid home, that’s unbelievable, true honest citizen
The book "This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed" goes into great depth about how guns in the hands of minorities played a part in the civil rights movement.
Bull,
How???
Anytime blacks were armed and ready to defend themselves, the U.S. government would change the laws like when the "Black Panthers of Self Defense" walked into the capitol building armed up, and a few weeks later Ronald Reagan's punk @$$ changed the laws when it came to carrying guns in the state of California.
@Aaron Redman Thanks! 👍🏾 Saved it to my wishlist.
@@MADNEWYORKER914 Do what the dude did i the movie"The Birth of A Nation". They used no guns, because Nat Turner said they could here them coming. Use knives and swords and they couldn't here anything coming.
My state has a law requiring you to go to the Sheriff and get a permit to buy a pistol. It is a Jim Crow law that is still on the books. My Father kept his first pistol permit as a memento. On it, part of the text says that the permit holder is "known to the Sheriff to be of good character." In reality, it was a way to prevent Black people from buying guns. Most of my state's Legislature was elected in part because of their supposed pro gun stance, but there has been no move whatsoever to get rid of this Jim Crow law.
In the UK anyone who wants to own any sort of firearm , has to prove they are of Good Carachter. I can't see a problem with that concept, provided it applies to everyone.
Please consider sharing what state you are from. Thank you for sharing this anecdote.
When I inherited my Father's firearms I almost left a pistol purchase permit in his hand in the casket so I could sarcastically tell someone dig up my dad but since I was executor I had to have my own in my own posession.
@Aniquin NC also for a while was one of the states that required you to either get permission or inform (forgot which) your CLEO of machine gun purchases regardless of what the current federal legislation was at the time (ie: trust could avoid CLEO).
actually, that still might be the case, NC isn't an incredibly pro-gun state but it's still not as bad as like NJ, NYC, or Cali.
it's honestly just not a good state overall. too many people, not enough land, cities aren't *really* cities, humid, income tax, very much so a purple state with corrupt official on all sides, poorly funded public education system with many politicians being anti-education. the whole state I attribute to being like a "rural home owners association."
This still exists in NC! You can either go through the more standard buying process, or have the Sheriff's office pre-screen you so you don't have to wait for the store to background check you. Same wording and everything. $5.
The Battle of Athens, TN is worth covering its an awesome story about crooked GOVT and Vets standing up for their town after coming back from WWII
I'm sure he will be covering it sooner or later
That was quite an event. I am sure it will be covered eventually.
From TN and never heard of it
My grandpa was from that area but he was occupying Japan at the time that went down so didn't get to participate in those shenanigans
Came here to comment this. I'm glad it already has 300+ likes
“Bigoted orgy” lmao. Loving the historical content on these lesser spoken about topics. Support from a half american indian
ya when he said bigoted orgy, i couldn't help but laugh at that.
It's true though.
@Old timer hot shot what's so great about it? Are you even paying attention?
@Old timer hot shot 🤣🤣🤣🤔🤫🤭
Yeah, I was going to tell the shooting Sports director to put this video in classes next summer until I heard Bigoted Orgies. LMAO. Favorite part but it's the one I fear I couldn't win when parents complained. Other than that, everything said was exactly the type of lesson I want our kids to study today and I could vein a debate with parents on this / these comments.
"No one is free, unless all are free" wish we still taught civics an how to study history.
Indeed madam!!!!! God bless you!!!!! Shalom
100% truth
RIGHT on
Why not ask the aboriginals what we want? Oh yeah, we are racist. The answer would scare you.
TRUTH ✊
battle of blair mountain is also worth talking about. even involved air power used against Americans on American soil
So did the bombing of the MOVE building, and that was as recently as 1985.
People forget the first time airplanes dropped bombs on US soil was not Pearl Harbor but Blair Mountain.
Blair Mountain... Virginia?
@@johndane9754 Yep, labor struggle that became violent after Pinkertons killed a mayor for refusing to honor a fake warrant and murdered the sheriff that fought them off on the courthouse steps resulted in the US dropping mustard gas on miners.
@@eargesplitten9876 Mustard gas? I thought they fire bombed the miners.
I hope you're going to cover the role of the Black Panthers in firearms history.
I know, right? "Arm every citizen! ......unless they're black people, who feel they need to protect their own neighborhoods, because police were simply failing to do so...."
@Spyder. exe Police are failing at fundamental human decency and class solidarity. If you like boot polish there's easier ways to get it in bulk.
@Spyder. exe honest question, what flavour of boot polish do you prefer licking? Blueberry or strawberry?
@@halfassedfart Oh police are practicing class solidarity alright, it's just that they aren't working class. Look at what their salaries are, especially compared to firefighters or EMTs
@Spyder. exe With how far your fingers are crammed into your ears, I'm impressed you can still type.
One of the main reasons I refuse to associate with the NRA is that the local NRA guys where I have lived are the same guys who use racial epithets in every day conversation. I don't pretend my experience is universal, but I have lived in a lot of places and many of them are similar in dealing with local firearms community. The undercurrent of racism is troubling to me.
Look into NAAGA or the SRA! They are both super accepting of anyone, regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion etc.
@@alexs5744 It's weird how many dumb guys think their opinion is worth sharing.
The nra disarmed the black panthers.
@@alexs5744 So you refuse to support socialist organizations? Guess you don't need streets,libraries, parks, clean water, fire protection, and police? All of those exist for the good of society, therefore are socialist. Stupid bumpkin...
Standing up to cowardly bullies . They ran away , leaving their wives and children . Real tough guys ...Not.
Run Forest RUN
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bunch of cowards hiding behind masks and picking on solitary individuals.
All the Lumbee I know pronounce Oxendine, OX-N-DINE. FWIW. I live about 30 miles from the Lumbee nation.
Ralph Reagan Right, same with Locklear, not “Locks-lear”. He added an S lol.
I work with someone named Oxendine (and from North Carolina) who pronounces it the same as what you said. It never occurred to me that he might be Lumbee, though he looks like he could be Simeon's (pronounced the same as "Simon") relative.
It is most likely just a quirk of accent, All the Lumbee you know probably speak their native tongue or at least exposed to it on a daily basis.
"Thus, for example, tanks, battleships and bombing planes are inherently tyrannical weapons, while rifles, muskets, long-bows, and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon - so long as there is no answer to it - gives claws to the weak."-George Orwell, 1945
Perhaps the most respectable socialist in the world, Orwell.
Which is why we saw so many democracies when longbows were at their height.
@@MartinGreywolf when longbows were at their height of tactical prowess, they were used as indirect weapons by massed formations. No shit that a tactic that pretty much requires a lord to spend wealth in the training and outfitting of troops was not very democratic, he was probably talking about the use of a bow as an individual direct-fire weapon in the hands of people still in touch with their hunter-gatherer roots.
@@HaloFTW55 you'd be surprised with how much you have in common with those on the left. most real leftists i know are nature loving, gun loving, and kind people.
@@MartinGreywolf Please tell me you are sarcastic
History that deserves to be remembered (If I should steal a tag line from another channel). An articulate and informative account, thanks for this.
Anyone familiar with "Beau of the fifth column"?
He has talked about the difference between "2nd amendment people" and "gun nuts" among many other topics
Highly recommend
Love that Floridian
@David Vazquez look in the mirror
@@alexs5744 LOL, Beau isn't a communist. I doubt you even know what one is. Anything that isn't far right is probably a communist to you.
I listen to him all the time I love to hear him speak
Oh, hey, the internet people are here. Howdy.
Having grown up in South East North Carolina, everyone knows that the Lumbees are strong, proud folks. Ya just don’t mess with them. Some of the kindest funny people I have ever met.
Strong and proud and kind and funny go together
I'm from one county north of where this happened, and I grew up on the stories. Thank you for covering it here!
I was lucky to have an 8th grade teacher that taught us about this event. Thank you for this video and this new series!
I recommend a video on the Mulford Act. The California law signed into law by then Governor Reagan as a response to the Black Panthers “policing the police”. These videos are great by the way. I’m glad I now know of Simeon Oxedine and Niel Lowery.
The Black Panthers weren't "policing the police". The Black Panthers were robbing banks, murdering police and civilians.
@@ByteMeCompletely LIAR!
Oxendine was one of my family members I just found out from the Lumbee Tribe.
@@ByteMeCompletely Got a source on that?
@@smugly6793 lol they never do.
History deserves to be Remembered
Not according to BLM
@@alastair9894 Tell us all how statues teach the history of a nation build by Whites alone, and how that rose-tinted masturbation which literally whitewashes the history of oppression and slavery is somehow just and redeemable.
@@alastair9894 History deserves to be Remembered, but not all history should be honored.
Markius Fox it has nothing to do with being right or wrong and everything to do with observing history so that we never repeat it. Not everything is sunshine an lollipops and you gotta take the good with the bad.
Statues rise and fall. Cry about it.
It would be nice to see something in on the Lumbee resistance during the civil war. Still today, the Lumbee are fighting to be federally recognized as a tribe.
@inrangetv I see you are responding to a bunch of negative comments. I just hope that those comments don’t get to you, the majority of people agree with your message or at the very least your sentiments. I’ve seen a lot of my favorite content creators go mad because of comments that miss the point entirely, or have some completely off topic intentions. Just know that they are in the minority and we support what you are doing!
As a Scandinavian (and thus completely a bystander to current events) I greatly respect your approach on this. I had a history teacher that, during WWII review, put equal amount of emphasis on the resistance movement... and the ugly truth that there were also quite a few who sympathized with the Nazi movement. We study history to prevent it from repeating itself... not to self-glorify!
I was four years old at the time, and far away in Mississippi. My father was involved in the civil rights movement in the state at the time that the three men were murdered in Philadelphia by the Klan. I hate them, and God help them.
@@dougreid2351 May he turn his back to them, and let them find that even Hell does not want their stench.
@Russian Bot #568984 I seriously doubt you ever gave a damn about civil rights.
You could say this idiot James "catfished" his pals into thinking they'd have more people there :P
Matt This is amazing.
Here, take my like.
Fanatics are dangerous, no matter whose side they are on. Thne add God told me to! you really have a problem.
Best part is he and his group were also forced to run for the hills after they got shot at by a group of African American vets when he went after a local doctor.
Karl, I’m incredibly impressed with the way you’ve used your channel to put out this information. So few people are creating content that focuses on education like that, and I’m so glad to see that you are. I loved you back when all I knew of your content was you and Ian talking about things like MREs and the shockwave, and I love you 10 times more now that you’re doing more of this kind of thing. Stay faithful to educating, and stay free, brother.
Reminds me of that picture of Malcom X with an m1 carbine.
WRONG! you have NO idea what that picture was about!!!
@@tesmith47 What was that picture about to u?
@@seedofjacob3178 the conflict with NOI
I’m intrigued by the mention of the Black NRA. I’ve never heard of them before this video and would like to know more about them.
I would definitely be interested in a series of videos, like this one, discussing the role of firearms in the civil rights movement.
Thank you so much, Karl, for making this video and others like it.
@Michael Madden did the NRA said barely anything about Philando Castile's murder? They don't give a shit about black people. They're an industry lobby group, not a gun owners' group
@Michael Madden You sure about that? With how unwilling the NRA is to defend black people's gun rights, the actual NRA clearly has no interest in POC, certainly not black people.
@@CaeruleanWren NRA was started to protect black firearm rights.Why do you say they don't?
Carl Systematization: it was NRA members who helped organize Black gun owners throughout the Jim Crow South. Many Blacks had NRA clubs. Indeed, the infamous Gun Control Act of 1968 was in many ways a reaction to the increasing numbers of Blacks not only buying, but also carrying, firearms.
The only way we can progress as a society is to learn from our past. I learned something through this video today and I hope we all did. Thank you, Karl, and keep up the fantastic work.
“Freedom is indivisible; the chains on any one of my people were the chains on all of them, the chains on all of my people were the chains on me.”
I love the outcome of this story so much. Thanks for this important work.
I've been saying this in articles and on social media to my fellow progressives for a long time. Oppressed groups can form their own defense militias--and all American gun owners should stand with them. Allowing ourselves to be split by bigotry only puts our rights in greater danger.
@@markfergerson2145 I would like to highlight here that Pelosi's challenger from the left, Shahid Buttar, is a 2nd amendment advocate of sorts, but one very different from conservatives who do not thing beyond the right to own guns, nor similar to liberals who believe no good can be achieved with it. As a constitutional lawyer he takes it as given that American citizens living in the United States and its territories have a right to own firearms and he further affirms that the 2nd amendment is a recognition of a right to resist tyranny by other "arms" as well, which has been eroded by the paramilitarization of police to become enforcers of the state who firearms are simply insufficient to resist when they enforce tyranny. He has further affirmed that gun control without concommittant disarming of police has further eroded that right to resist tyranny.
Here's him discussing it: ruclips.net/video/4ApWe8SHyOY/видео.html
And here's him outlining his views in writing: truthout.org/articles/ferguson-and-the-second-amendment/
He has been advocating this nuanced view of the 2nd amendment for years and he could use help spreading it further.
@@markfergerson2145 I think the best way would be to get rid of the incredibly unhealthy attitude of many gun owners, of revering guns as a solution to everything, such that mass shootings can wane a bit and people perhaps don't feel so threatened by the people who constantly talk about shooting people they don't agree with.
I mean go watch that Three Percenter documentary that Vice did, where they're at the gun range talking about shooting leftists. No wonder lefties don't want easy gun ownership when righties are organizing for the purpose of killing them.
Mark Fergerson I don't think Pelosi has support of "Progressives" or "The Left", the money and influence of a lifetime politicians mean that democrats (and republicans) can brand whatever they like to be "progressive" (or "traditional"). And half of everyone believes that definition.
not in modern america my friend. not in current america.
You not understanding the roots of racism CAPITALISM!!!
A tale of a community threatened with terror standing up and fighting back against their oppressors? Solid gold. Thank you.
Looks like Boise, Idaho to me
@Russian Bot #568984 Why would you defend the Klan of all groups?
@Russian Bot #568984 If I knew a klan member I'd kill a klan member. To hell with them all.
Lived in NC most of my life and never heard this story. Thank you for this sir!!!
Hearing we're getting more great history content like this is the kind of news I need these days. Thanks for everything in range.
Karl: This affair happened "just down the road" from where I grew up here in NC, yet I've never heard of it (I was 8 at time). The KKK to this day is still present, though they do tend to lay low most of the time. I had an "interesting interaction" with a group of them in 1979, when five people died in a riot they instigated.
I live in NC and i remember being taught about this in history class.
@@andrewdixon3960 I never learned a thing about the Lumbees and how they've been treated in school, shame about my school district at the time
Do they have scars to remember that "interaction"?
Hi Don, I'm in Greensboro... you close by? When I first saw this video posted I was hoping that Karl was here in NC, but as soon as I saw him at his "outdoor-desk" from AZ, I knew it was just not to be! I was a senior in HS when the klan/communist shoot-up happened, what a load of chuckle heads...
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@@MarkiusFox dumbass most of them should be dead by now 2020
THAT title! Karl, give me a minute. Ian's still in the middle of his Q&A.
Thanks Karl. As a foreigner, that was a fascinating window into American history. Ta muchly.
This is a beautiful presentation, and the commentary is thoughtful, honest, and necessary in these turbulent times. It will remain so when these times have passed. Thank you!
Karl I'm half Deutsch half Cherokee, I can't tell you how refreshing it is see someone who understands the complexities and nuances of American history. You're doing God's work brother
It’s delightfully ironic to hear that catfish’s family was aided home by the natives that opposed the Horrible, bigoted orgy. Warms my heart to hear about protests like these. full of powder kegs and few people are harmed and kindness is actually displayed by one side to the other.
Score another for native Americans showing humility and compassion in the most disgusting backdrop.
@Russian Bot #568984 A gathering that is organized for the purpose of inciting violence is not "peaceful", and SCotUS has ruled that it isn't protected by the first amendment either. To gather like that and announce the intention of such so publicly, and not expect community backlash in the defense of the people that were targeted, is naïvety of the highest caliber.
@Russian Bot #568984 Oh, I'm sorry, the Klan must really be the most civil of pacifists to grace the Earth and would have politely asked the Lumbee tribe to vacate the Lumbee nation so that the land could be taken over by Whites. That's _certainly_ what was meant by "drive them out" and mentioning "race mixing" as a problem to be "solved". /s
@Russian Bot #568984 Imagine for but a second; you, dying on the hill that is KKK/White supremacy apologia.
Worry not! You are doing so at this moment so splendidly.
@@MarkiusFox stop feeding the racist troll, please.
They should have let the bitch walk all the way home in shame, and resent her Husband for abandoning her and her kids. No more pity, no more high road. Everytime we go high, they never get it. Until we wind up here again in 2020. Same problem, different appearance and terms, bug same damned problem.
In fact I take that back....scum like them, should have been surrounded and doused in gas and burned. They're the disease if humanity. And anyone who escapes gets shot. They've done it to us countless times over, maybe if they felt tge terror they'd calm the hell down.
This is the book idea for you: Firearms in Defense of Civil Rights
@Russian Bot #568984Normally I would agree on 1st Amendment grounds. But the gathering was with the INTENT to cause a riot. The quote by the "leader" admits to wanting to cause fear. That's literally terrorism.
@Russian Bot #568984 The "gathering" was a predecessor to an attack. This isn't the first time KKK done shit like this. They have a rally, then at the climax of their gathering, they burn some house down and kill some minorities. Then burn their cross and run off.
It may be unprovoked in the strictest sense, but everyone know what would have happened if the Lumbee were unarmed and not resisting.
The specifics doesn't mean much if you ignore the context. The KKK is a violent group that have killed plenty before
Did the klan have a permit? And if their rally was peaceful then why bring guns? The klan came to terrorize the Lumbee , but Lumbee terrorized the klan instead. It's called reaping what u sow.
David Vazquez the joke is that the case was tried in court because the klans dude arrested was found guilty of intent in starting a riot l0l
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I love this content Karl, thank you so much for putting this together.
Hey, my grandpa remembers when this happened. He lived in the area at the time. He used to tell the story all the time when people brought up the lumbees.
First time I have heard of this battle. Thank you for the education.
Thanks a lot for covering moments like this in our history. If it doesn't fit the image that certain people want the US to be represented by, it somehow manages to fall through the cracks.
Absolutely awesome video. The fact that a channel like this has an upload like this gives me hope .thank you
Thanks for being a light on very important lessons from history that are to easily forget about.
This man truly is a modern warrior philosopher. We have so few of those left. Thank you for the insight, Karl. And for the pleasing tale of the Klan getting an oh-so-just whuppin'.
Awesome stuff Karl. I'm in the UK and we don't really have guns and certainly not the culture of arms like you do there. Regardless your fair and even way of addressing the issues surrounding weapons and and how they interconnect with civil rights infractions ('cos we definitely have those here) is fascinating. Thank you.
@@pkz420 I don't think "everyone has" is a good strategy. I don't think it's working out for you guys in the USA, at all. BTW, my neighbor (I live in England) has 7 guns, 5 of which "Full bore" (powerful centerfire cartridge), one shutgun and a semi-auto 22 rifle. Not exactly "nothing" :)
Shame, if you more guns you'd likely have less grooming gangs & Vans-of-Peace.
It would make exactly zero difference to those crimes if we still had access to firearms in the UK.
You think the US doesn't have CSE rings because they have access to firearms?
@@johnnypopulus5521 more firearms just means terrorists get easier access to said firearms. it's not impossible to own them in the UK, but they're very tightly controlled. there's a reason terrorists have to resort to machetes and vehicular methods for their attacks, thus meaning the body count is a lot less than what it could be.
not only that, but there's not really a desire for firearms among the population. in fact, it's one of the issues that is pretty much agreed with between the vast majority, irregardless of politics.
@@blitoris We do, like the whole Epstein thing but they're run by the elite for the elite & they suicide the procurors before they can say anything. The police here actually do things to stop them instead of ignoring it because "they dont wanna seem racist". We also, this is not an endorsement, have vigilantes who will use firearms to be rid of those types, again, that is not an endorsement of such actions.
So glad you are taking the time to do this.
I have no clue why this randomly showed up in my feed, but am I ever glad it did. I am a Yankee transplant from the horrid state of CT that moved to North Carolina about five years ago. I have come to realize that I was raised in the wrong part of the country. I work for an armed courier service and my routes take me through Pembroke, Red Springs, Fairmont, St. Paul's.......the heart of this very Lumbee nation. Interact with these fine people all the time. Many people in these areas are "poor", but they have a wealth we should all strive to attain. I can't really describe sufficiently, the friendliness and love they have for each other and I always feel welcome, like welcome in a way as if I was I lifelong friends or family, even though I'm just a guy who shows up to provide a service. And, if I may be so bold, the Lumbee women I interact with are beautiful beyond belief! I'm so happy that when I return to this area tomorrow, I will do so knowing a little more about the bravery of a people I already have admiration and respect for.
I am from near Lumberton, and I always loved this story when I heard it years ago. I want to thank you a lot for sharing it, because I never knew that there were so many pictures of the battle and aftermath. I only found out about it originally because I have Lumbee ancestors and wanted to learn more about them.
Gun laws have always been written to keep firearms away from the "wrong" kind of people.
And in the hands of the "right" people. Pointing out that Hitler made it hard or impossible for Jews and other undesirables to own guns is correct, but he also made it easier for "true Aryans" to get guns. A dictator can't win just by taking guns away, he needs armed people on his side (who then take the guns from the undesirables).
@@Spetulhu Hitler got in to power and started rounding up Jews before any gun laws were in place. In fact Nazi gun laws weren't strict at all, quite the opposite.
Firearms as a self-defense against criminal is quite valid but is wholly out-dated when it comes to tyrannical governments.
We aren't living in a time where the army is using similar weapon as civilian firearms. And modern military weapon is very complex that your average citizen would not know how to use competently if at all.
OP is correct. Gun laws, in the past, today and in the future have always been about putting it in the right hands and keeping it away from the wrong hands. Laws have to strike a balance, where that balance lies is a point of contention.
Whenever a gun law proposal is made, pro-gun people think it's complete removal of guns when that is not the case if you look at the finer details. The opposite is true, when gun laws are relaxed, the anti-gun people think it is supporting anarchy. The reality is that laws are changed to match the times we live in to strike that balance. We can strike that perfect balance but people will never be satisfied because everyone's opinion is different, even among the same camps.
Just now came across this channel. First time I've ever subscribed immediately before the video even finished. Thank you for your work in education, civility and common sense. I'm very excited to see more of your content🙏
This is fantastic content. Very well done. I've been watching inrange for a good while and it just gets better all the time, especially these historical presentations. Keep it coming Karl, good luck to you, I'm off to Patreon to give my support👍
Another great video telling a great story.
You're one to talk! I wouldn't even be on this vid without your pentest shenanigan stories! How'd I even get here?!
This is just what we needed. Karl keep up the great videos.
Karl, your channel delivers more than just firearms it delivers history and historical perspective quite difficult to find otherwise.
Very well done and look forward to future episodes.
Thank you so much for this content series. These stories need to be told.
As a European I had an idea about the struggle for civil rights but never knew anything about battles like this.
Thanks a lot Karl for bringing this to my attention and i hope you will continue this series, because i got no doubt there are more stories like this that deserves to more attention.
Absolutely love these videos and massive respect to you for making them. You are absolutely right about how so much of the gun industry promotes self defense and protecting yourself but completely ignores how important that is to the civil rights movement.
Thanks for always being such an impartial presenter but still presenting meaningful content and clearly sharing your opinion in a meaningful way.
Patreon supporter here - Thanks again for showing us that intellect and educational discourse are not dead.
Thank you so much for doing videos on stories like these, I'm excited for more!
There’s 550 million firearms in world wide circulation, that’s one gun for every 12 people. The only question is, how do we arm the other 11?
Way way more than that indeed, it's just not for the civilians to use. As a conscript, me and my peers were obligated to carry a fully automatic HK rifle, learn how to use a FN machine gun etc. to guard the country's borders for free, as a civilian rifled firearms are not even an option for a hunting license and smoothbores require limited time licenses.
@Michael Madden it's a quote from Lord of War
@@vanboy5697 The origin of the quote is from a movie character that becomes an arms dealer and circumvents international arms trade regulations. It doesn't matter what the government or UN think about what civilians can or can't use.
Ah, was Nicholas Cage the lead actor in that one? It reminds me of something.
@@vanboy5697 What country?
Oxen-DINE (as in a diner), LOCK-lear
I AM FRON N.C. MY GRANDFATHER WAS A LUMBI, BORN IN LUMBERTON. IN N. C. THE LUMBI INDIANS HAVE A FEARSOME REPUTATION OF NOBODY TO MESS WITH. THEY ARE ONE TOUGH BUNCH OF PEOPLE .
Thank you Karl. Keep this content coming.
A great source on stories like this is the book "Setting Sights - Histories and Reflections on Community Armed Self Defense", edited by Scott Crow. Lots of similar tales from the US and abroad.
Please do a video on the history of gun control in California and the Black Panthers. So many "2A people" outside of California have no idea.
You mean how the Black Panthers fallowed the law to the LETTER. Didn't the NRA protect the BP rights to do so?
Great video. Never would have known about this without this video. Hope to see more like this in the future
Thank you for this series!
Absolutely adored this story. Thank you for using your platform to share these struggles against bigotry and hate.
6:13 is something I whole heartly agree on. Because when such a thing is done all you do is highlight and create a division, by presenting the idea that they're their own group or separate from us.
I love these historical vids because a lot of it is history i haven't heard of. Keep it up Karl.
Thanks for covering this! Love these kind of history lessons. Looking forward to more.
Karl, I've been supportive(or rather, as supportive I can be) of InRange as a project since the very beginning. Some of my favorite content has always been the historical vignettes, and this has to be my favorite one so far. I can't wait to see what you've got in store for us. Thank you for putting out this content. I am a professionally trained historian. Throughout ten years of higher education, I didn't learn about this type of history until graduate school, and even then in only a few courses. I can count them all on one hand. This type of American history is vastly more important on balance, I think, than what is typically taught in the standard survey classes that so many of our nation's students take for a semester and totally forget later on. Historical literacy is so incredibly important, and it's incredible that you're doing this work. Please, keep it up.
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Yes I’m an old man old enough to remember when there was no question where the moral centre of the planet was.
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Now this is history!! Great work with providing insightful analysis about the place in society of what is your passion.
Much better than your earlier work and so impressive to see.
Excellent video,thanks a lot for sharing this with us Karl.
Cheers from an italian viewer.
I'm a proud Lumbee Indian. Thank you for sharing this story.
I’m excited to hear more about civil rights and firearms! As Karl mentioned, it’s not discussed much by the 2A community, and definitely not the anti-2A community. There’s much to be learned here and I’m all for it!
My mother's maiden name is Warriax, pretty sure one of the guys wearing the KKK flag was her uncle. She told me this story before and when I search her last name and lumbee tribe vs KKK the same images appear
Thank you for this story! I shared it with co-workers today and, like me, none of them had ever heard it before.
Fantastic, please continue sharing this REAL HISTORY
@Glorious Bastard thanks!
i live on a reserve... honestly the only thing im suprised about is nobody's auntie tried making earnings out of captured klan paraphanilia as a trophy. come to think of it that probably happened after.
Came across this channel & it was refreshing to hear a gentleman speak justly to bring us together instead of divide us 👍🏿
Karl, videos like this are why I became a patreon. Keep on telling the stories of those who have never had them heard as much as they should
Thanks for this. I have family that are Lumbee.
I shared this with them.
Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the right to self defense of said life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is universal. Not racial, along religious lines, orientation, income or anything.
It's sad that people will be gung ho about such things, but then add in "except THOSE people."
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Please keep making these. I love learning about these types of things.
I love that you bring us these type of videos.