I met 2 of these brothers when I was in the navy. I’m Puerto Rican and when they told me how mixed they were it really resonated with me. To have native blood with European and African can sometimes cause an identity crisis.
I agree, it does! So many of us are poor but get this, we live in the biggest county in NC. Robeson County has the biggest population of Lums, but is also the poorest county!
I'm a Lumbee but never lived in Robeson. But my family from their speak like this. It always makes me feel loved and welcomed. My grandmother was the most loving, Christian person I ever known. She talked like this. So did my papa, and daddy.
I had four school mates from the Lumbee Tribe that I got to know. I am from Arizona and attended a summer health program in northern Michigan in the late 80’s. I often wondered about their tribe. Their names were Oxendine and Locklear. Thank you for the insight to the Lumbee culture and language.
I’m from Rob co. I’m a white man, I’ve done 20 years in the military 26:04 . But I must say I love hearing the southern / Rob co language y’all are my people this is where I belong. This is home. God bless y’all. God bless my lumbee brethren. I love y’all. When I think of good people. A person that is your friend for life. I think of my lumbee family. Y’all are the best.
I'm a descendant of those Scots-Irish migrants that settled in Robeson County having grew up on a tobacco and cotton farm five miles outside of Red Springs, NC a town in the county. When I was a boy I had my own juvember and that's what we always called a sling shot.
The Lumbee Indians were federal recognized by the federal government in the 1950s; however, without federal benefits because there isn’t a treaty/contract between Lumbees and federal government. Federal government benefits to Lumbee’s has nothing to language. The Lumbee English is very similar to Scottish dialect.
@@benchavis1624 First time I've ever heard that. It was always my understanding that the state recognized them as a tribe, but that the federal government won't recognize them because a tribe has to have a documented 200 year history prior to the time they request it. They will recognize the individual as an authentic Indian and give them the individual rights that come with it, i.e. such as come with affirmative action programs, etc. I was of the idea that the state of NC recognizes them as a tribe and grants any considerations that come with that. I have also understood that other long recognized tribes such as the Cherokee here in the NC have long opposed the federal recognition because they perhaps think such a thing might would diminish their federal grants and other such considerations that come with the recognition. And you have to know that many Indians have both white and black genes because of the intermingling the Lumbees have long engaged in. My sister-in-law god rest her soul was a Lumbee from Laurinburg and despite most of her family looked even whiter than me with very blonde hair and blue eyes. Some Indians looked almost black because of the black genes in their DNA. I'm not saying you are incorrect about federal recognition. It may have changed from what I understood and I never came across that information. I'm not suggesting the Lumbees aren't genuine Indians but have long believed that many of them are an admixture of many races such as my deceased sister-in-law's family though. Some appear almost totally Indian, some almost totally black, and many, very many you'd think were white unless you inquire and discover they are Indians. Heather Locklear for instance is half Lumbee Indian but looks almost totally white, but I know her father was an academic who if memory serves me hailed from Pembroke, NC which was very near where I grew up and who married a white woman after he went to work in California as an academic. I grew up around many Lumbee's in my youth on a farm. They were mostly nice hardworking people who would brook no insult from anyone and I must say produced very attractive females as was my sister-in-law.
@@roymerritt6992 Federal recognition does not require 200 years of historical documentation. The main requirement is a treaty with a tribe. Unfortunately most of your information is inaccurate regarding federal recognition. I agree with the Cherokees and other tribes. Lumbee Indians don’t have a treaty/contract with federal government. A fact! Heather Locklear’s father worked at UCLA as a school administrator. He isn’t from Pembroke. I met the family members when I worked at the University of California Berkeley in 1990. All people in the world are mixed. A mathematical fact.
@@benchavis1624 I detect a note of hostility in your responses. Are you suggesting I'm intentionally lying about what I understood? Are you implying I somehow have animus toward Lumbee Indians because if you do you are inaccurate considering I had many friends among Lumbee Indians while growing up and worked in the fields beside them. I may be wrong about Heather Locklear's father being from Pembroke, and as I noted that he was if memory serves me, which might have failed since I'm in my seventh decade of life. And I never asserted my thoughts surrounding federal recognition are definitely factual. That was simply something over the years I came to think was accurate. But of course you don't provide any factual information or evidence that would convince me that what you are asserting yourself is totally accurate either. You are a native Indian and may be correct, but being someone who requires definitive evidence I remain cynical of your claim and especially because of what I define has a hostile tone. A person can make any claim they want but without providing verifiable evidence from a reliable source that I can research and may convince me otherwise I will remain cynical. You know I used to live in Wilmington where there is a major movie studio and the place where many movies are made. You know who I met since they made many movies downtown where I worked at the main post office well non other than Vanessa Redgrave, Danny Aiello, Bill Nunn, Issac Hayes, Bernie Casey, etc. So therefore I'm not the least impressed that you may know the Locklear's.
I’m black and went to school down there and they hated everyone. One time some boys chased me with knives but luckily I could run back then. I wish they would accepted me for more than me just playing ball for the school down there .
My family is from Mexico, but we’re >65% indigenous. We went to Cherokee on vacation and got the nastiest looks from the indigenous in the area. Never knew why.
My Maternal Great Grandmother was born and raised in Robeson, NC in the early 1900’s. She was the first person to tell me as a child that we were Indigenous. But she never went in depth about which tribe we were from. My Great Grandfather (her husband) would go to his tribal meetings every week when I would visit them for the summer. I wish I would’ve inquired more about it while they were alive. 😔 I have so many questions now about our true lineage and heritage.
@@mamadoudiabira1023just because you have dark skin don’t mean you African blood 🎯 I love my African sister & brothers but we have to stop thinking that because the aboriginal people of America looked like the today so called African Americans I learned this by doing my own research
My grandfather is full blooded Lumbee who grew up in Pembrooke and moved to Michigan to work at GM. He later moved back to NC but his family stayed up here. Learning about my heritage is always so damn interesting
@@justme2121, the ancestry of the Lumbee is primarily African and Northern European not NA. It's a fascinating history of which we should all be proud, but it is way past time to end the big lie.
I think a lot of the other southern states were like that back in the day. Now you ain’t got to worry about it so many people done moved to North Carolina from elsewhere and have just about erased the North Carolina accent
Hollywood, Northern Folks and lots of others have mocked southern dialects as the speech of stupid, uneducated people. That bled over to lots of people in the South believing it to be so and trying to change it. Take Senator John Neely Kennedy from Louisiana who is a very well educated (Oxford) and smart individual but because of his southern accent and the stereotype associated with it, some would see him as uneducated.
@@dannywearsthecrown567 correct. If you’re in Raleigh Durham or Cary then you can cancel hearing the southern accent lol. But if you travel throughout rural Piedmont or midsive cities it’s alive especially the 336 area
As proper (for want of another word) as people speak English, they don’t speak they way they did 50 years ago, and they didn’t speak the way they did 50 years before that and so on ... that’s the beauty of language
I'm not a Lum or Native American at all, but I definitely want the Lumbee tribe to maintain their dialect (and to be recognized officially as a tribe), just as I want all groups of people to retain the ability to speak their native language if they so choose. It is necessary to speak a common, standardized language in any society to facilitate efficient and effective communication, yet the individual languages and dialects of people groups carry rich history, a sense of belonging, and cultural continuity. I see beauty in maintaining these links to the past even as we all use standardized languages to communicate in the broader world.
@@BronzeSista no disrespect but these are $5 Indians I mean some of us had ancestors in the elders that extremely conscious and remembered exactly who they were and what lies were told to them and all of the other atrocities that were committed but this is interesting that I see Asiatic Polynesian people claiming their indigenous to Turtle Island
Proud Lum! Yes! I remember being awake the first time with my dad's side and they would always tell me too "Speak proper" Just as school did and i never understood it then i met my now husband he asked, Where are you from Just 3 counties over lol ❤ But he loves our dialect 30yrs now And My grandma and and families went to school of Croatan in Robeson County what is now Pembroke university im 46yrs now i grew up west hoke My family moms side from maxton But our families are all around Robeson, hoke and Moore Im from The Locklear, Pierce. Cummings, Bullard, Jones, families. Some of the best memories as a child runnin through fields Picking peas, shuckin corn, making fry bread, jumping in nearby creek or pond, Playing on haystacks, Sneakin grandmas red man lol 😆 😂 Playing outside making club houses Swimming in lumbee river we were taught to swim or drown they thow us in and buddy we learnt quick! 😂 We Survived!😂 Our grape ice cream 🍦 Collard sandwiches, I learnt to sew at 5 from my grt grandma she was the best strongest 💪🏼 lady i ever met But all my people are I miss the 80s and my childhood All us papa's and moosie cats lol My people are The Greatest He's right, We know who we are And we can be a million miles away from home and we will know our people! My people are survivor's!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
i'm from the rural area of the Philippines and we moves to Pembroke. The first time I saw a collard i said to my Lumbee neighbor "that's one big cabbage!". he started laughing and he told me when you cook it "it ain't right if it don't shine in the light" (he meant fried). lol
@@BronzeSista thats the hard part. I just got lucky. Not sure but there might be some little hole in the wall place that makes them. Now you have me thinking so I'm gonna have to ask around.
As a Lumbee I can say through out my childhood teachers and peers constantly taunted me for the way that I spoke and because of that I started to talk different at school and try to carry myself like the other students. It became so natural that even still today some people are surprised when I tell them I'm Lumbee. As an adult I still try to use what I call a "proper voice" whenever I'm at work,school,shopping etc. However when I'm around family or people I'm comfortable with I'm able to be myself and not be so tensed or so focused on how I speak. It's a sad world were we have to put on a front so people don't think we're not educated or have no common sense all because of our dialect and where we're from.
As a fellow Lumbee I grew up in Florida I can concur with you and say that I've had the same type of experiences growing up here with the way that I've talked because I always come home 4th of July Thanksgiving Christmas I grew up with my family in North Carolina even though I live here in Florida so the way that I talk has always been a point of interest for many of my friendships and relationships with people. But that "proper voice"is very true something that many of us have and when we come home it just feels good to talk like the way you know
I was just about to leave a super long comment about growing up in lumberton with most of my class being lumbee kids and watching the absolute torture they went through. On the first day of kindergarten we were separated.. lumbee on one side and yt on the other side of the room. This is such a horrible mess that those “others” have created. Fighting for identity.. nobody should have to do that. I’m not from pembroke but I’m from lumberton so I was never in the heart of it but I feel like all of my friends growing up made a huge impact in my life. It showed me the right and wrongs of everything. How to be a good person. And to support everyone and love everyone no matter what. I will celebrate the day that the lumbee tribe becomes federally recognized because I believe in my heart that it’ll happen. It won’t undo the years of abuse and trauma you and others have endured but hopefully it will close that chapter and show others the power of fighting for yourself and your family, and your identity as a whole. Sorry I went off on a whole rant there. I’m 32 now with children who have never lived in NC since we have moved but they know exactly who the Lumbee people are and will never show prejudice against another person for how they talk or how they look. I’m very sorry that happened to you. I hope for the sake of us all that people can learn kindness and be more open to things that are different from what they know. We will never make it without loving each other.
Yesss mama's family is all Lumbee grew up in Fairmont (maiden name is Hunt) and she moved us to WILLIAMSBURG VA 🥴 Within a year I completely learned to mask my accent and any cultural ties. Now at 30 I'm having to learn to speak the way I was brought up to, cook foods I grew up with and not feel ashamed
What I love about the Carolinas in each section has it's own dialect and each area cooks differently. My family came from Ireland. Lived in the North Carolina Mtns. and along the Appalachian trail. Later went down to the foots hills. Then over towards Laurenburg. My mama called mommucking something up, when you were messing something up pretty bad. For over there we say either o var or o vair. Or yonder. I can correct myself around others if I need to, until I get excited about something.
Relate to what you say. Am sick and tired of people mocking any southern accent. I am proud of mine. Though I am not of lumber descent but western Carolina English descent. I will no longer change my speech to suit someone else. Respect everyone's differences🕊
Shiiiiit... come on down to the coast and meet some people from Down East or the Outer Banks. The only way I know how to describe their accent is Olde English + southern. (Heeeyyy... I'm typing this while the guy starting talking about it.) EDIT; THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY SOUND!!! Lived here almost 25 years and still have trouble understanding sometimes.
Scotland County, North Carolina here. Neighbor and allie to the Lumbee people, and damn proud of how far this amazing tribe has come! God Bless the Lumbee Nation!!! YeeYee
@@jadenroddey3792 imo likely sharing how different dialects/language correlate... My Mother was from England & i use to get taunted by children for saying skipping rope vs jumping rope at age 6😂 Personally, i like different cultures/foods/languages & dialects... 🙌🙏
My Native Ancestors are from that region too!! Going back to Jane Bnu Gibson who were Cheraw lived in North Carolina and Virginia. My tribe the Monacan Indian Nation traces back to Tutelo and Saponi!!
My mother is the senior of the Moore family (11kids) from Prospect. She is old school Lumbee. She moved up north to Indiana over 70 years ago but I’ve been blessed with many stories of her upbringing. Proud of our Lumbee heritage!
They sound very similar to Outer Banks folks, with a more southern twist... They must be linked with the Banks. I've never heard that accent anywhere other than there.
Right Coast it’s near the coast... close enough to supply/calabash for it to sound eastern. Also, I think anyone east of Raleigh has a diff speech... at least I do
@@SassyUnicorn86 I'm from Wilmington, but have lived all over NC so I know what you mean. My accent is totally different than the Piedmont/mountains. I spent 5 years in Harkers Island, and I've never, ever heard any other community use the words mommuck, drime, or pronounce tide/time/way etc other than Lumbees. They must have some ancestry from the settlers on the OBX, and some of the dialect stuck around since they've been pretty isolated to Robeson county. There are just some things that are way too distinct to be a coincidence.
@@serenissimarespublicavenet3945 That makes sense. There's just no way it's a coincidence. The settlers were Irish, and a lot of the Lumbees still have Irish last names. Plus the words they use. I think that kind of got swept under the rug when they were trying to be recognized as a Native tribe.
I’m from Robco and grew up with Lumbees. My good friends and very good, hard working people. My people came from Ireland in the 1800s to the McDonald area and have always been friends with the Lumbee. When I was a kid, an older Lumbee told me they were of the Tuscarora and swore to me they integrated with the lost colony and saved the original settlers. CROTAN...They migrated from the Outer Banks, to the Cape Fear, to the Lumber River. That always felt right in my heart and explained, red head, blue eyed Native Americans.
Im glad to see these nice folks doin good i coulda swore i met the gentleman in the black t shirt and beaded necklace one time when i was alot younger me and my family went up to Andrews for great aunt Arizonas bday...idk maybe just the chill vibrations i got..im proud of my Irish and Scottish background thats why i learnin to speak Gaelic..my people didn't come over on the mayflower they came on cattle barges n potato boats haha
I agree with that. I live in Bladen but I went to college at UNCP and graduated in 95. I also worked for years in Robeson. I told my husband that I can pretty much tell what area people are from when they open their mouth and start talking!!!😊 I love the history
my favorite neighbor was Mary Katherine Hunt she helped raise my kids and I loved her so much. my kids called her mama Hunt we lived in the Chapel Hill apartments in Baltimore . I took her to the Indian center on Broadway and she went to the East baltimore church I took her to North Carolina many times to visit. In my neighborhood there were Hunts, Locklears and Oxendines and Chavis
My mom was probably part Lumbee, she was from Lumber City, Ga. and I recall that in the 1850s a number of Lumbee moved to the Okefenokkee swamp area oF Ga and Lumber city was part of it.
I'm a somewhat light complexion Lumbee. In the mid 70's I could not get a job at any of the factories in lumberton. So I went back to a factory that was hiring and used my mother's last name (she had married a white man) and it got me past the office door and into the personnel office. But when the personnel manager took a good look at me he stood up and said that they had no openings. Farm work was about all that I could find.
I'm born and raised Texas @age 43 but far as I know my granny is from Louisiana and east Texas but this is exactly how she talk and I talk a lil similar at times like that I understand totally what they're saying,but she say her dad was full Choctaw and her mom was Cherokee and black.
I'm lumbee and puerto Rican, raised in new York i was born in Pembroke though. I am proud of both my cultures. I use my lumbee English with my mom, and I use Spanish with my father. this caused alot of confusion when I had to learn standard English in the NY school system. 😢so I had a lot of adjustment to do
Being born and raised in Robeson county, I always assumed that the dialect was Robeson county specific because my grandparents, parents, siblings and most everyone I knew, spoke this way. Never attributed it to a specific race, just a regional dialect.
I moved to NC from up north to complete high school, and I had a few Lumbee associates. When I first met them I thought they were Hispanic or biracial. One was a Dial, Oxendine, and Hunt.
Hi I have met two Lumbees in my life time Olivia Oxendine 1979 in Illinois Everett Locklear in 2003 in Iowa. Very good people. Scrolling FB somehow I was led here afte I clicked on a post on the new 2022 Miss Native NC. Then followed the trail to another video on a beautiful video of a 1909 Maggie Locklear's 1909 pinecone quilt an amazing work. Now this video. Awesome. I'm Nisoc Hochunk Pinagigi
@@strnglhld I have a Lumbee friend who took an AncestryDNA test and he actually did have 1 percent Native American North.But I heard like half of them have 0 percent and then some others have a little bit.
Their history is so interesting, but they remind me of Dominicans and other Afro Latinos with their refusal to accept that they have significant African bloodlines.
Because "AFRICAN" is not a singular culture, nationality, or language... they have nothing to do with the continent Africa...that whole story of folks coming from there was a white lie
@@AyeeeItsCam what white man taught you that? I know the school system teaches that bs... but i follow my family lineage and the history that my elders were taught, along with the record...just like your family, my family has oral history... we understand what the U.S. has done to this country. Better yet, science backs this claim. There is a reason our culture is global. I know where my family was and when they were forced to relocate. Why do you think they call it the "GREAT MIGRATION"... NOT IMMIGRATION... 🤣🤣🤣 his-story tells us that the Indian separations and wars... Ain't no Mongoliod built these pyramid mounds... I have a history of Indians that were Masons in my family... the favor whole is deep, and I got sources of you need to help you understand
My wife is half Lum and I love them to death. I always joke around saying I hope the dialect in heaven is Lum. I’ve been around them all my life and speak all those sayings they use pa daddy. When you have an old lumbee lady call you “honey” it’s just a different relaxing feeling.
I am glad the Lumbee Nation is not abandoning their language, roots and customs. We need to preserve all the original nations of our country; they represent the deep richness of our origins.
I met a Lumbee Indian and to me, he's one of the golden men that looks like he was kissed by the sun, he's kind, loving, and a sweet person. Never met anyone that could be better than him. Love the speech and the history.
H i , does any 1 know a well known singer actress & many other things as well "" Jana Mashonee "" on you tube too - very many videos too .....she is a Lumbee .
Huge mistake. Lumbee are not indigenous at all, that’s why all the other tribes came out against it. They didn’t have to have any studies done tracing their ancestry like the other actual tribes.
This is so interesting, proving that the US has many pockets of different cultures, accents and traditions sewn into our fabric. I also was watching something about Mulungeons, which are also the same tri-racial mix that were predominately in the Appalachians. They were doing some sort of DNA testing project and they essentially have the same mix of mediterranian european, middle east, African and Indigenous. My husband is from Mexico and has all of that mix too! Who knew he had a common "brotherhood" from the Appalachians.
I have never heard of the Lumbee Tribe of Indians. Our history books didn't tell us a lot of important facts when I was growing up. Thanks for the video 😀
I was shocked when I heard the term "mommuck". I don't know how it got there but it was a term used by my mom in Maryland and understood by the family tot mean to mess something up. For instance - "quit mommucking your food" or "he/she mommucked that up". Also, a token was an omen. I just thought it was country talk, but I love it. Did Lumbees ever live in Maryland?
@@Stanlayy-em4fk That's interesting. There had to be some contact between someone in my family to pick up a few Lumbee words. It makes me smile when I think about it. Thanks.
This is nothing more than another english dialect that is from the colonies, similar to the southern drawl and roanoke english dialect. It's obvious they can't claim one Native tribal language because they would be challenged for it. They never existed before pre-colonization.
10:50, This is true. I was in Wal-Mart in Onslow county and heard a lady speaking on her phone. I immediately had to go over and say, "You're from Robeson County!". We chatted for a while and even exchanged phone numbers. Yes, I'm a Lum.
Some of my family moved there in the 60's... my father lived there awhile w his sister. I have family there I've never met... feel like I got robbed off that too.. so I understand. But I also understand why they wanted to leave❤
I love this for them! I wish the same recognition was given to other racially mixed indigenous tribes/people. My ancestors were told they "looked" too negro even though they resembled the people in this video!! 😔
Have you noticed that they’ve all gotten lighter and lighterWhy do they all look the same? The history books documented how the tribes looked and it wasn’t ONLY this. Why do they continue to be this way? Why do they hate and hide dark brown people? I don’t understand it.
My paternal grandmother was Lumbee. But it’s also understood some natives didn’t go with the changes and ended up being categorized as black and not indigenous.
there is no Lumbee river in any history, and Lumbee is a new made up name from 1953, in 1945 a pembroke locklear woman stated pembroke are the town indians and the swamp indians , also the artist speaking here once stated he was Yamisee, there was no lumbee in 1800s, The name lumbee came along 1950s, now the speak pattens presented are true, note no mention of Lumbee with in any of the known language native / Indigenous groups, the lost colony was just that to natives, lost to animals, lost to starvation, there is no connection to the so called lost colony,
Jeremiah 17:4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.
Hi edagdwg thanks for sharing this history of respect for yourself and others God bless us all to. Know the truth about yourself no matter what people say or think about us linda j peace knowing god for yourself is a real gift from God pay attention to what you feel on the inside of yourself I'm sooooooo blessed to have a loving soul from God peace is all I want linda j peace ❤️🦋🦋🦋🦋💯💯💯💯☮️☮️🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🐦🌈
I've always had a problem with the American use of English. I have been teaching English as a part time job in China and Hong Kong for many years so tend to be more mainstream than most. After watching some of these programmes on You-Tube I feel totally different and have much more respect for the whole issue. Specially with Native Americans who have had this forced on them and done a great job of assimilating. Keep your traditions, they are so precious and use standard (American English) as you want or need to.
The girl's story @10:55 doesn't surprise me at all. I grew up next door in Scotland County. I relocated to Las Vegas, Nevada. I was at work and one day a new employee started work. As soon as he finished talking for the first time I said, "Are you from Robeson County?" For a moment he looked at me with a puzzled look. Then he said he was and it must I could tell from his accent.
Lumbee are stealing culture from real tribes. Ex. The Cherokee regalia, the medicine wheel on their banner is a northern plain tribes tradition, some of their are taking Navajo names like Nakai. They do not play the DNA card, because it discredit easily. This language program, come on, the whole south already speak like this.
I'm a lumbee and proud to be .Brewington .Brown, cox. Bell Jacob Evan's I could go on copper tone what else would I be I love my roots and knowing I'm lumbee wake my s Day full of pride.
I loved this! One of my good friends is Lumbee! I love listening to her talk. Our children grew up together and we gave honorably adopted each others children lol😆 I am trying to delve deeper I to my own genealogy to see if my mothers side have choctaw roots. It's a fun journey and I learn new things making the way even if my search comes to a dead end.
Hi edagdwg thanks for sharing this history of for sharing what they want to do with yourself as a child of God only God can give us true hearts of love one another I'm soooooo blessed to know God for myself and careing about other people Linda j peace ❤️💯🦋🦋🦋🦋🐻🦋
Being yourself is a real gift being yourself all you have to do peace inside yourself is a gift from God soooooo blessed to feel real peace only God can you real peace sooooooo blessed to know God for myself j. ☮️ Linda jpeace 🦋🦋☮️🌈🐦🌈🙏🙏🙏🦋🦋🦋🦋
Watching with interest in east Yorkshire... Old guys here have a twang which is almost similar to Danish as we were invaded in ancient times... Would love to visit these areas
Wow! I learning more about Indians online. We didn’t know much about Indians from our history books. Growing up watching tv in the 60’s I saw movies about Indians. The movies would make the Indians were wild and crazy! I know they are beautiful people. My great grandmother was half Indian.
My family is Nordic but we attend Powwow every year when all different tribes on the East coast meet on Rancocus where our community tribe lived originally. It a nature center most of the year. But at powwow you can meet all different Native American s see their garb, speak with the it's alot of fun ! We go on Columbus day.
@@strnglhld Yes ,poor people they can’t be considered a tribe because their language wasn’t preserved. They are so mixed they spoke English. There is another tribe in the hills of NJ .They are a mixture or runaway slaves ,the natives who took them in and as the story goes became a hide out for anyone hiding from the law. They can’t get tribal status either.
I might also relate to those who don't know but the actress Heather Locklear is the daughter of a man who grew up in NC and became I believe an educator when he went to California and after marriage had his daughter Heather whose blonde hair and fair skin might persuade some to not know she has Indian blood.
She doesn’t have Indian blood. Lumbee aren’t Indian. I have hundreds of Lumbee DNA matches on Ancestry and they’re % African % European and literally 0% Native American.
I'm white and grew up on a tobacco farm in Robeson County where most Lumbee people exist and well know that much of their ancestry is black and white but they insist they are Indians. And if you would bother to check you would discover that some years back the state of NC has recognized the Lumbee Tribe as Indians albeit not the federal government has not done the same. And that is the goal of most such groups such as them in order to secure the federal assistance which are afforded to such groups. Yet the federal govt. demands a tribe have at least a 200 year historical record to be deemed a tribe and allotted the status of a tribe to benefit from federal grants, etc. I worked among these people on the farm and at a local textile mill in my youth before moving away and if any white person such as myself or even a black person should deign to suggest they are anything other than members of an indigenous group you would be met with violence among many of them. So it was best to be discrete about such matters. Many of their features makes it clear a great deal of black DNA is in their makeup, but since the state deems to label them Indians I will do so myself since it is not a detriment to me nor financially debilitating to the govt. as per the tax dollars and who knows if at some point some of them didn't intermingle with the Cherokees in this state of which their are many in the western part. And many of them do look Indian in certain towns like Laurinburg where many white boys such as myself courted them because they were receptive to the attention. My late sister-in-law was one and she looked more white than anything having blonde hair and blue eyes while the rest of her family looked very Indian especially her father who was a very big man and a WWII hero with the 82nd Airborne. Heather Locklear's father was an academic from that region and went to California to teach where he met her mother and they sired her. Who am I to dispute their wish to be deemed Indian and obviously this state (NC) decided it was appropriate. I myself am have taken the 23andme test and have 7% black ancestry. But most of my family DNA is that of people who hailed from the UK, Scotland, and Ireland. I consider myself white however though at one time in the south even 1% of black blood would have had the state deeming me black. Do you consider it an insult to you these people and even the state of NC deeming them as Indians? I think not so as far as I'm concerned let them call themselves whatever they want if there's no cost to you that they do.
Its not a lie if you have been inculcated from the beginning of your life to believe you are one thing, in this case a member of an indigenous group i. e. Indians and have the very state in which you live, in this case my home state of North Carolina to legally recognize you as such, and you can look that up to have it verified for you. Now the federal govt. doesn't recognize Lumbees as a legitimate tribe as I've recently posted but as I understand it not because they are willing to suggest these people aren't authentic people, but rather because they don't have a long enough tribal history, which I am certain means 200 yrs. of anthropological evidence of their tribes existence. Let these people think they are Indians if the want, its no skin off my teeth and costs me nothing, and I expect the same pertains to you as well. Do you have any idea of how many white people claim they somehow have Indian blood in them? I've known many of them who have done so and I can clearly see this is nothing more than a fantasy or people like the idea of having the blood of the Nobel Savage running through their veins. I have had 23andme inform me that 7 percent of West African blood in my DNA which in the old south could have me declared as black because of the one percent rule? Am I going to suddenly claim I am black, well no I'm not because my own ancestors owned slaves and fought for the Confederacy, which is nothing I'm proud of. My sister-in-law was an Lumbee and looked even more white than me. It's neither here nor there to me and I'm sure Heather Locklear has always been told she was Indian was what I initially posted on this matter. So my point is to let people claim they are whatever they want as long as it is innocent and really does no harm. Elizabeth Warren was told her whole life she was an Indian and I tend to think it wasn't anything nefarious as is these people claiming to be isn't nefarious either. In the end the only real race is the human race anyway.
"Lumbee" is definitely not a language, there's a lot of different forms of English all over the world but it's still English. I do wonder though now what language family the Lumbee ancestors would have spoken. I'm Mohawk sewehiarak tsi onkwehonwe nisewaia'toten, ionkwahsa'stenhserowana! (Remember we're all the original people, we have great power!)
@@capefearcapt4679 except they aren't and there have been many papers done on this subject. There is african blood because black slaves often mixed with indigenous tribes, all indigenous tribes. There are records going back to the 1800s where ancestors of Lumbees were known as Indians. A Lumbee man was able to keep his weapon in a court case during a time black people weren't allowed to have guns. They also owned land, something black people weren't allowed to do.
As a lifelong student of multiple languages, it seems to me that they are speaking a sort of pidgin English, or one could say an exaggerated southern slang set. Not a unique real language to be sure. I'm glad they have fun with it, but I personally find it annoying to listen to this mish-mash rambling.
My mother’s Puerto Rican and my fathers Lumbee. My daddies name was Bobo Locklear,I grew up between Bmore and NC.My family lives all over Lumberton but come from Back Swamp.I just recently moved back to Bmore.Love my Lums,they are the best and wildest people in the world.I know the language and I know the traditions,Lord have mercy,it was so different,but normal for us kids there from Bmore.I always say I’m one of the Bmore Lums.I know all about Pembroke and my family and friends but do the Lums there know of their families struggles and history in Baltimore?They don’t,they know some kin lived there but don’t know the real story of them owning one side of the city,controlling it by fear and business.You don’t mess with the Bmore Indians,they’ll cut you real quick😂LoudLove 🔊🔊🔊💜💜💜
Not sure if this is of interest .But,they claim I1a1b mtdna hg is in your tribe .That is mine .It Is Croat ,but the highest concentration comes from Africa.I read about an escape of slaves from Cherokee Owners.And some are said to have vanished.Some call us Melungeons .Me.So another possibility of this haplogroup presence is that the slaves from East Africa were present among those slaves that disappeared.I wish I knew .Yall dont sound much different from me in accent .My gg grandfather named James Roberson ,father;s side....was from Robeson ..his name was James Roberson.Maternal side is Ely,Adams and Allens.I cant get past my gg grandmother.TY..good luck .
I met 2 of these brothers when I was in the navy. I’m Puerto Rican and when they told me how mixed they were it really resonated with me. To have native blood with European and African can sometimes cause an identity crisis.
I agree, it does! So many of us are poor but get this, we live in the biggest county in NC. Robeson County has the biggest population of Lums, but is also the poorest county!
@Magic Dreaa cool love to understand more about your culture
@Magic Dreaa no I don’t. I have Facebook only
Is one of those brothers you're talking about is the guy in the white t shirt and black Yankees hat?
What are their names?
WOW! I'm from Lumberton and been away for 18 years and I can definitely tell anyone from RobCo by the dialect
I'm a Lumbee but never lived in Robeson. But my family from their speak like this. It always makes me feel loved and welcomed. My grandmother was the most loving, Christian person I ever known. She talked like this. So did my papa, and daddy.
God bless you 🙏🏼
I love the guy who said, "He thought the preacher was speaking in tongues but he was really speaking in Lum...."
I had four school mates from the Lumbee Tribe that I got to know. I am from Arizona and attended a summer health program in northern Michigan in the late 80’s. I often wondered about their tribe. Their names were Oxendine and Locklear. Thank you for the insight to the Lumbee culture and language.
I’m from Rob co. I’m a white man, I’ve done 20 years in the military 26:04 . But I must say I love hearing the southern / Rob co language y’all are my people this is where I belong. This is home. God bless y’all. God bless my lumbee brethren. I love y’all. When I think of good people. A person that is your friend for life. I think of my lumbee family. Y’all are the best.
What does having done 20 years in the military have to do with anything you posted in your comment??
PS Maybe something like being away for so long it's nice to hear that familiar accent or something like that?
I'm a descendant of those Scots-Irish migrants that settled in Robeson County having grew up on a tobacco and cotton farm five miles outside of Red Springs, NC a town in the county. When I was a boy I had my own juvember and that's what we always called a sling shot.
And you made it yourself. Those things made us creative.
The Lumbee Indians were federal recognized by the federal government in the 1950s; however, without federal benefits because there isn’t a treaty/contract between Lumbees and federal government.
Federal government benefits to Lumbee’s has nothing to language. The Lumbee English is very similar to Scottish dialect.
@@benchavis1624 First time I've ever heard that. It was always my understanding that the state recognized them as a tribe, but that the federal government won't recognize them because a tribe has to have a documented 200 year history prior to the time they request it. They will recognize the individual as an authentic Indian and give them the individual rights that come with it, i.e. such as come with affirmative action programs, etc. I was of the idea that the state of NC recognizes them as a tribe and grants any considerations that come with that.
I have also understood that other long recognized tribes such as the Cherokee here in the NC have long opposed the federal recognition because they perhaps think such a thing might would diminish their federal grants and other such considerations that come with the recognition. And you have to know that many Indians have both white and black genes because of the intermingling the Lumbees have long engaged in. My sister-in-law god rest her soul was a Lumbee from Laurinburg and despite most of her family looked even whiter than me with very blonde hair and blue eyes.
Some Indians looked almost black because of the black genes in their DNA. I'm not saying you are incorrect about federal recognition. It may have changed from what I understood and I never came across that information. I'm not suggesting the Lumbees aren't genuine Indians but have long believed that many of them are an admixture of many races such as my deceased sister-in-law's family though. Some appear almost totally Indian, some almost totally black, and many, very many you'd think were white unless you inquire and discover they are Indians.
Heather Locklear for instance is half Lumbee Indian but looks almost totally white, but I know her father was an academic who if memory serves me hailed from Pembroke, NC which was very near where I grew up and who married a white woman after he went to work in California as an academic. I grew up around many Lumbee's in my youth on a farm. They were mostly nice hardworking people who would brook no insult from anyone and I must say produced very attractive females as was my sister-in-law.
@@roymerritt6992
Federal recognition does not require 200 years of historical documentation. The main requirement is a treaty with a tribe.
Unfortunately most of your information is inaccurate regarding federal recognition.
I agree with the Cherokees and other tribes. Lumbee Indians don’t have a treaty/contract with federal government. A fact!
Heather Locklear’s father worked at UCLA as a school administrator. He isn’t from Pembroke. I met the family members when I worked at the University of California Berkeley in 1990.
All people in the world are mixed. A mathematical fact.
@@benchavis1624 I detect a note of hostility in your responses. Are you suggesting I'm intentionally lying about what I understood? Are you implying I somehow have animus toward Lumbee Indians because if you do you are inaccurate considering I had many friends among Lumbee Indians while growing up and worked in the fields beside them. I may be wrong about Heather Locklear's father being from Pembroke, and as I noted that he was if memory serves me, which might have failed since I'm in my seventh decade of life. And I never asserted my thoughts surrounding federal recognition are definitely factual.
That was simply something over the years I came to think was accurate. But of course you don't provide any factual information or evidence that would convince me that what you are asserting yourself is totally accurate either. You are a native Indian and may be correct, but being someone who requires definitive evidence I remain cynical of your claim and especially because of what I define has a hostile tone. A person can make any claim they want but without providing verifiable evidence from a reliable source that I can research and may convince me otherwise I will remain cynical.
You know I used to live in Wilmington where there is a major movie studio and the place where many movies are made. You know who I met since they made many movies downtown where I worked at the main post office well non other than Vanessa Redgrave, Danny Aiello, Bill Nunn, Issac Hayes, Bernie Casey, etc. So therefore I'm not the least impressed that you may know the Locklear's.
I’m black and went to school down there and they hated everyone. One time some boys chased me with knives but luckily I could run back then. I wish they would accepted me for more than me just playing ball for the school down there .
It's crazy. All the ones I knew married white people. I dated one and had to sneak to date him.
@@butterflylovenj7300 what ethnicity are you ? Just asking cuz u said u had to sneak
My family is from Mexico, but we’re >65% indigenous. We went to Cherokee on vacation and got the nastiest looks from the indigenous in the area. Never knew why.
@angiemejiarodriguez7824 Omg are you Otomi? I have Otomi ancestry from Mexico.
@@angiemejiarodriguez7824because they’re very xenophobic against Mex
My Maternal Great Grandmother was born and raised in Robeson, NC in the early 1900’s. She was the first person to tell me as a child that we were Indigenous. But she never went in depth about which tribe we were from. My Great Grandfather (her husband) would go to his tribal meetings every week when I would visit them for the summer. I wish I would’ve inquired more about it while they were alive. 😔
I have so many questions now about our true lineage and heritage.
@ prettynikki73 • You Have African Blood In Your Veins Don't Deny Your African Side 🙏
I'm from Maryland but, my family is from Robenson County as well. I also have some Lumbee blood/ancestry
Probably Tuscarora. They’re the only tribe that does meetings around Robeson county. Maxton really.
Yea but black americams are mix heritage
@mamadoudiabira1023
@@mamadoudiabira1023just because you have dark skin don’t mean you African blood 🎯 I love my African sister & brothers but we have to stop thinking that because the aboriginal people of America looked like the today so called African Americans I learned this by doing my own research
My grandfather is full blooded Lumbee who grew up in Pembrooke and moved to Michigan to work at GM. He later moved back to NC but his family stayed up here. Learning about my heritage is always so damn interesting
there's no such thing as a "full blooded Lumbee."
@@capefearcapt4679 I think he meant full blooded as in both parents of his grandfathers were Lumbee. No need to disregard someone else’s ancestry
@@justme2121, the ancestry of the Lumbee is primarily African and Northern European not NA. It's a fascinating history of which we should all be proud, but it is way past time to end the big lie.
@@capefearcapt4679 the big lie? That lumbees are not native Americans? Well if they were here before whites came, they would be native.
My grandfather also grew up there and moved there to work at the GM plant!!! Locklear!?
North Carolina is notorious for trying to get rid of "accents" like as soon as you start school, all you hear is "speak this way" or "don't say that"
I think a lot of the other southern states were like that back in the day. Now you ain’t got to worry about it so many people done moved to North Carolina from elsewhere and have just about erased the North Carolina accent
Hollywood, Northern Folks and lots of others have mocked southern dialects as the speech of stupid, uneducated people. That bled over to lots of people in the South believing it to be so and trying to change it. Take Senator John Neely Kennedy from Louisiana who is a very well educated (Oxford) and smart individual but because of his southern accent and the stereotype associated with it, some would see him as uneducated.
@@dannywearsthecrown567 I feel like the cities have lost it but it’s well and alive in rural to midsize NC. Especially eastern NC
@@redboy09100 I definitely agree, as much of a rarity as it is I meet Raleigh native who definitely have the Piedmont southern accent still in tact.
@@dannywearsthecrown567 correct. If you’re in Raleigh Durham or Cary then you can cancel hearing the southern accent lol. But if you travel throughout rural Piedmont or midsive cities it’s alive especially the 336 area
I love my NC home. So many different people that carry their torch with pride.
As proper (for want of another word) as people speak English, they don’t speak they way they did 50 years ago, and they didn’t speak the way they did 50 years before that and so on ... that’s the beauty of language
I'm not a Lum or Native American at all, but I definitely want the Lumbee tribe to maintain their dialect (and to be recognized officially as a tribe), just as I want all groups of people to retain the ability to speak their native language if they so choose. It is necessary to speak a common, standardized language in any society to facilitate efficient and effective communication, yet the individual languages and dialects of people groups carry rich history, a sense of belonging, and cultural continuity. I see beauty in maintaining these links to the past even as we all use standardized languages to communicate in the broader world.
They don't have a native language.
@@BronzeSista no disrespect but these are $5 Indians I mean some of us had ancestors in the elders that extremely conscious and remembered exactly who they were and what lies were told to them and all of the other atrocities that were committed but this is interesting that I see Asiatic Polynesian people claiming their indigenous to Turtle Island
@@BronzeSista you are exactly right! They aren't a "tribe", they are an amalgamation of different groups.
@@BronzeSista Yes we do...
@@romantikwater4285 "Asiatic" people ARE the Natives of Turtle Island 🙄
Proud Lum!
Yes! I remember being awake the first time with my dad's side and they would always tell me too "Speak proper"
Just as school did and i never understood it then i met my now husband he asked, Where are you from
Just 3 counties over lol ❤
But he loves our dialect 30yrs now
And My grandma and and families
went to school of Croatan in Robeson County what is now Pembroke university im 46yrs now i grew up west hoke
My family moms side from maxton
But our families are all around Robeson, hoke and Moore
Im from The Locklear, Pierce. Cummings, Bullard, Jones, families.
Some of the best memories as a child runnin through fields
Picking peas, shuckin corn, making fry bread, jumping in nearby creek or pond,
Playing on haystacks,
Sneakin grandmas red man lol 😆 😂
Playing outside making club houses
Swimming in lumbee river we were taught to swim or drown they thow us in and buddy we learnt quick! 😂 We Survived!😂
Our grape ice cream 🍦
Collard sandwiches,
I learnt to sew at 5 from my grt grandma she was the best strongest 💪🏼 lady i ever met
But all my people are
I miss the 80s and my childhood
All us papa's and moosie cats lol
My people are The Greatest
He's right, We know who we are
And we can be a million miles away from home and we will know our people!
My people are survivor's!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Y’all are the best people. No doubt a lumbee friend is a friend do life. God bless y’all
My first collard sandwish changed my life.
Lol
i'm from the rural area of the Philippines and we moves to Pembroke. The first time I saw a collard i said to my Lumbee neighbor "that's one big cabbage!". he started laughing and he told me when you cook it "it ain't right if it don't shine in the light" (he meant fried). lol
I want to try it, might have to drive to Lumberton. But I need to find out who makes these sandwiches.
@@rafaeloviedo9473 hahahaha
@@BronzeSista thats the hard part. I just got lucky. Not sure but there might be some little hole in the wall place that makes them. Now you have me thinking so I'm gonna have to ask around.
I descend from Lumbee through braveboy and Locklear
Same
I'm a Blalock between lumberton and Dallas
Im also a descendant through Locklear
Cmon
@@iyanabellamy3170 what up cousin
As a Lumbee I can say through out my childhood teachers and peers constantly taunted me for the way that I spoke and because of that I started to talk different at school and try to carry myself like the other students. It became so natural that even still today some people are surprised when I tell them I'm Lumbee. As an adult I still try to use what I call a "proper voice" whenever I'm at work,school,shopping etc. However when I'm around family or people I'm comfortable with I'm able to be myself and not be so tensed or so focused on how I speak. It's a sad world were we have to put on a front so people don't think we're not educated or have no common sense all because of our dialect and where we're from.
As a fellow Lumbee I grew up in Florida I can concur with you and say that I've had the same type of experiences growing up here with the way that I've talked because I always come home 4th of July Thanksgiving Christmas I grew up with my family in North Carolina even though I live here in Florida so the way that I talk has always been a point of interest for many of my friendships and relationships with people. But that "proper voice"is very true something that many of us have and when we come home it just feels good to talk like the way you know
I was just about to leave a super long comment about growing up in lumberton with most of my class being lumbee kids and watching the absolute torture they went through. On the first day of kindergarten we were separated.. lumbee on one side and yt on the other side of the room. This is such a horrible mess that those “others” have created. Fighting for identity.. nobody should have to do that. I’m not from pembroke but I’m from lumberton so I was never in the heart of it but I feel like all of my friends growing up made a huge impact in my life. It showed me the right and wrongs of everything. How to be a good person. And to support everyone and love everyone no matter what. I will celebrate the day that the lumbee tribe becomes federally recognized because I believe in my heart that it’ll happen. It won’t undo the years of abuse and trauma you and others have endured but hopefully it will close that chapter and show others the power of fighting for yourself and your family, and your identity as a whole. Sorry I went off on a whole rant there. I’m 32 now with children who have never lived in NC since we have moved but they know exactly who the Lumbee people are and will never show prejudice against another person for how they talk or how they look. I’m very sorry that happened to you. I hope for the sake of us all that people can learn kindness and be more open to things that are different from what they know. We will never make it without loving each other.
@@cask1😊
Yesss mama's family is all Lumbee grew up in Fairmont (maiden name is Hunt) and she moved us to WILLIAMSBURG VA 🥴 Within a year I completely learned to mask my accent and any cultural ties. Now at 30 I'm having to learn to speak the way I was brought up to, cook foods I grew up with and not feel ashamed
What I love about the Carolinas in each section has it's own dialect and each area cooks differently. My family came from Ireland. Lived in the North Carolina Mtns. and along the Appalachian trail. Later went down to the foots hills. Then over towards Laurenburg. My mama called mommucking something up, when you were messing something up pretty bad. For over there we say either o var or o vair. Or yonder. I can correct myself around others if I need to, until I get excited about something.
Relate to what you say. Am sick and tired of people mocking any southern accent. I am proud of mine. Though I am not of lumber descent but western Carolina English descent. I will no longer change my speech to suit someone else. Respect everyone's differences🕊
Shiiiiit... come on down to the coast and meet some people from Down East or the Outer Banks. The only way I know how to describe their accent is Olde English + southern. (Heeeyyy... I'm typing this while the guy starting talking about it.) EDIT; THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY SOUND!!!
Lived here almost 25 years and still have trouble understanding sometimes.
Yea but are you lumbee tf Irish gotta do wit the video
Scotland County, North Carolina here. Neighbor and allie to the Lumbee people, and damn proud of how far this amazing tribe has come! God Bless the Lumbee Nation!!! YeeYee
@@jadenroddey3792 imo likely sharing how different dialects/language correlate... My Mother was from England & i use to get taunted by children for saying skipping rope vs jumping rope at age 6😂 Personally, i like different cultures/foods/languages & dialects... 🙌🙏
My Native Ancestors are from that region too!! Going back to Jane Bnu Gibson who were Cheraw lived in North Carolina and Virginia. My tribe the Monacan Indian Nation traces back to Tutelo and Saponi!!
My mother is the senior of the Moore family (11kids) from Prospect. She is old school Lumbee. She moved up north to Indiana over 70 years ago but I’ve been blessed with many stories of her upbringing. Proud of our Lumbee heritage!
What's up Cousin! 😊 fellow moore, Pate here
They sound very similar to Outer Banks folks, with a more southern twist... They must be linked with the Banks. I've never heard that accent anywhere other than there.
Right Coast it’s near the coast... close enough to supply/calabash for it to sound eastern. Also, I think anyone east of Raleigh has a diff speech... at least I do
@@SassyUnicorn86 I'm from Wilmington, but have lived all over NC so I know what you mean. My accent is totally different than the Piedmont/mountains. I spent 5 years in Harkers Island, and I've never, ever heard any other community use the words mommuck, drime, or pronounce tide/time/way etc other than Lumbees. They must have some ancestry from the settlers on the OBX, and some of the dialect stuck around since they've been pretty isolated to Robeson county. There are just some things that are way too distinct to be a coincidence.
@@rightcoast7049 I have read a theory that said they were descendants of the Roanoke colonists, who mixed with Indians and disappeared inland.
@@serenissimarespublicavenet3945 That makes sense. There's just no way it's a coincidence. The settlers were Irish, and a lot of the Lumbees still have Irish last names. Plus the words they use. I think that kind of got swept under the rug when they were trying to be recognized as a Native tribe.
Ima vouch for that lived down east nc and sounds almost exact as cedar island
My late husband was Lumbee. He loved the fact that my name was Rhoda.
I’m Lumbee descent by way of my great grandmother from the Walker family
Wow.. I am also Lumbee descent by way of my grandfather from the Walker family! So amazing to find long lost family. ❤️
Taylor Renfroe nice to meet you cousin
I’m from Robco and grew up with Lumbees. My good friends and very good, hard working people. My people came from Ireland in the 1800s to the McDonald area and have always been friends with the Lumbee. When I was a kid, an older Lumbee told me they were of the Tuscarora and swore to me they integrated with the lost colony and saved the original settlers. CROTAN...They migrated from the Outer Banks, to the Cape Fear, to the Lumber River. That always felt right in my heart and explained, red head, blue eyed Native Americans.
@Babyhowdy233 my great grandmother is listed as Indian on the census.
@@TheTurner1000 yep!
Im glad to see these nice folks doin good i coulda swore i met the gentleman in the black t shirt and beaded necklace one time when i was alot younger me and my family went up to Andrews for great aunt Arizonas bday...idk maybe just the chill vibrations i got..im proud of my Irish and Scottish background thats why i learnin to speak Gaelic..my people didn't come over on the mayflower they came on cattle barges n potato boats haha
I'm full blooded lumbee I'm a Chavis my mother is a Oxendine and grandmother is connie hunt. R.i.p she taught at Fairmont middle
@UCR3tFSl6jeZhIJ7S_kmubyQ Juanita Sampson?? That was my grandma's mother.... wow please contact me on Facebook @Michael Anthony McKellip
@UCR3tFSl6jeZhIJ7S_kmubyQ you know my aunt sandra then I'm guessing
My father was an Oxendine. What’s up cuz.
@@deetleskeet what's crackin dawg long time never seen. Would happily have you over to my house to smoke drink whatever suits ya. Hmu on Facebook
I'm an oxendine😊
Accents tell the stories of NC.
The carolina accent is most definitely a unique one. I’m so proud to be from the Carolinas.
I agree with that. I live in Bladen but I went to college at UNCP and graduated in 95. I also worked for years in Robeson. I told my husband that I can pretty much tell what area people are from when they open their mouth and start talking!!!😊 I love the history
my favorite neighbor was Mary Katherine Hunt she helped raise my kids and I loved her so much. my kids called her mama Hunt we lived in the Chapel Hill apartments in Baltimore . I took her to the Indian center on Broadway and she went to the East baltimore church I took her to North Carolina many times to visit. In my neighborhood there were Hunts, Locklears and Oxendines and Chavis
My mom was probably part Lumbee, she was from Lumber City, Ga. and I recall that in the 1850s a number of Lumbee moved to the Okefenokkee swamp area oF Ga and Lumber city was part of it.
We were named by the government because our tribes lived hid out on the "lumber river" that goes Robeson county"
I'm a somewhat light complexion Lumbee. In the mid 70's I could not get a job at any of the factories in lumberton. So I went back to a factory that was hiring and used my mother's last name (she had married a white man) and it got me past the office door and into the personnel office. But when the personnel manager took a good look at me he stood up and said that they had no openings. Farm work was about all that I could find.
😢
I'm sorry
When they speak they sound Geetchy
@@KFC8922 Sorry I misspelled. The lady I knew was from Charleston and she would proudly let you know she was Geechie
The Gullah and the Lumbee are related
I'm born and raised Texas @age 43 but far as I know my granny is from Louisiana and east Texas but this is exactly how she talk and I talk a lil similar at times like that I understand totally what they're saying,but she say her dad was
full Choctaw and her mom was Cherokee and black.
I'm lumbee and puerto Rican, raised in new York i was born in Pembroke though. I am proud of both my cultures. I use my lumbee English with my mom, and I use Spanish with my father. this caused alot of confusion when I had to learn standard English in the NY school system. 😢so I had a lot of adjustment to do
Being born and raised in Robeson county, I always assumed that the dialect was Robeson county specific because my grandparents, parents, siblings and most everyone I knew, spoke this way. Never attributed it to a specific race, just a regional dialect.
don't you notice a difference between the ways the white, black, and lumbee residents of Robeson county speak?
They speak the same. It not language.
I can listen to my ancestors ppl talk for hours 😍
I moved to NC from up north to complete high school, and I had a few Lumbee associates. When I first met them I thought they were Hispanic or biracial. One was a Dial, Oxendine, and Hunt.
I enjoyed this.
It sounds very Tidewater, not so much mainstream Southern. You hear it ever so slightly in Virginia. Am I close?
Yes! I'm from the 757 (Ptown-Norfolk), but my parents families are from Bladen and Roberson Co and Bertie. Very similar and regional.
Hi I have met two Lumbees in my life time Olivia Oxendine 1979 in Illinois Everett Locklear in 2003 in Iowa. Very good people. Scrolling FB somehow I was led here afte I clicked on a post on the new 2022 Miss Native NC. Then followed the trail to another video on a beautiful video of a 1909 Maggie Locklear's 1909 pinecone quilt an amazing work. Now this video. Awesome. I'm Nisoc Hochunk Pinagigi
OMG - Why would they let Lumbee in any Native contest considering they are 0% Native?
@@strnglhld I have a Lumbee friend who took an AncestryDNA test and he actually did have 1 percent Native American North.But I heard like half of them have 0 percent and then some others have a little bit.
Their history is so interesting, but they remind me of Dominicans and other Afro Latinos with their refusal to accept that they have significant African bloodlines.
Because "AFRICAN" is not a singular culture, nationality, or language... they have nothing to do with the continent Africa...that whole story of folks coming from there was a white lie
Your ignorant
The bloodline ain't African... black Americans are indigenous to America... white people help steal the land, and gave them land reservations
@@AyeeeItsCam what white man taught you that? I know the school system teaches that bs... but i follow my family lineage and the history that my elders were taught, along with the record...just like your family, my family has oral history... we understand what the U.S. has done to this country. Better yet, science backs this claim. There is a reason our culture is global. I know where my family was and when they were forced to relocate. Why do you think they call it the "GREAT MIGRATION"... NOT IMMIGRATION... 🤣🤣🤣 his-story tells us that the Indian separations and wars... Ain't no Mongoliod built these pyramid mounds... I have a history of Indians that were Masons in my family... the favor whole is deep, and I got sources of you need to help you understand
I NO BLACK 😂😂😂😂 I'm Dominican lol!!!!!
My wife is half Lum and I love them to death. I always joke around saying I hope the dialect in heaven is Lum. I’ve been around them all my life and speak all those sayings they use pa daddy. When you have an old lumbee lady call you “honey” it’s just a different relaxing feeling.
I am glad the Lumbee Nation is not abandoning their language, roots and customs. We need to preserve all the original nations of our country; they represent the deep richness of our origins.
The "Lumbee" have no "Lumbee" language. They speak a regional dialect of English. A "Lumbee" Indian language never existed.
Such a southern accent.. 100 percent
Yeah, I'm Southern and my accent is about the same.
My accent could give a Northerner an aneurysm.
Is Wayne Newton a LUMBEE INDIAN his from VA he. Looks Native American
@@davidortega357 native american doesn't have a look
I met a Lumbee Indian and to me, he's one of the golden men that looks like he was kissed by the sun, he's kind, loving, and a sweet person. Never met anyone that could be better than him. Love the speech and the history.
We have copper colored skin
Never heard of these people until today. Cool
Same but in Aug 2024
H i , does any 1 know a well known singer actress & many other things as well "" Jana Mashonee "" on you tube too - very many videos too .....she is a Lumbee .
Well, the Lumbee Act was literally just approved today. Congratulations to all the Lumbee people!
Thank you fingers crossed 🤞🏽
Sh'Anea Latrice hasn’t been fully passed
Hang in there I Pray it passes soon you ALL DESERVE IT....ITS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING....
Huge mistake. Lumbee are not indigenous at all, that’s why all the other tribes came out against it. They didn’t have to have any studies done tracing their ancestry like the other actual tribes.
Long time.feels good
This is so interesting, proving that the US has many pockets of different cultures, accents and traditions sewn into our fabric. I also was watching something about Mulungeons, which are also the same tri-racial mix that were predominately in the Appalachians. They were doing some sort of DNA testing project and they essentially have the same mix of mediterranian european, middle east, African and Indigenous. My husband is from Mexico and has all of that mix too! Who knew he had a common "brotherhood" from the Appalachians.
I have never heard of the Lumbee Tribe of Indians. Our history books didn't tell us a lot of important facts when I was growing up. Thanks for the video 😀
Because their not real indigenous American and they know that dna tests prove it
Because they are a fake tribe with a fake linage.
My great grandmother was Frances Locklair from the Lumbee nation.
My baby's mother is lumbee 💜 and she's the SHIET!!!
I love the Lumbee people. They should be federally reconized !
I love being lumbee ❤💛🖤 4rm Hoke County
They are a very beautiful looking people along with their cultural pride 👍👍👍👍👍
How would someone learn more about the lumbee & thier way of life & traditions? Do lumbee in NC have powwows or ceremonies?
Hoke Co. Here as well. #Bullard
What is a Lumbee
@SHOOTING WIND A Lumbee is a mostly Biracial person parading as an Indian. Some of them are White. Some of them are Black but they are NOT Indians.
Lumbee pride 💯
I was shocked when I heard the term "mommuck". I don't know how it got there but it was a term used by my mom in Maryland and understood by the family tot mean to mess something up. For instance - "quit mommucking your food" or "he/she mommucked that up". Also, a token was an omen. I just thought it was country talk, but I love it. Did Lumbees ever live in Maryland?
I heard of a old, small community in the city of Baltimore.
@@Stanlayy-em4fk That's interesting. There had to be some contact between someone in my family to pick up a few Lumbee words. It makes me smile when I think about it. Thanks.
I grew up with the word mommuck. We were in Bladen County which is one county over. We'd go to the movies in Lumberton.
I had a friend who used a shortened version of this word. He would say " I just cleaned this so done come over here and muck it up
@@bordeauxhouse Is that your maiden name?
The accents and dialects,..."rice and chicken, chicken and rice...." 😂 Much respect, no disrespect. This is very informative. 😲😀
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Probably remnants of Tuscarora and other tribes.
That is true. Southern Tuscarora. Most of the Northern Tuscarora moved to NY
Jingle dress dancers are my favorite 👏🏼💃❤️
They just sound like white Southerners only more Southern, like gone with the wind.
They sound more black with southern accent. The ones with the heavy accent. Then some sounds white just depends what they been around
@@shawnahall7246 King. Agree, but I have been around more who tried to sound like Southern whites.
My family is from Portsmouth Island and later Atlantic N.C. . Just learned mamucked is Lumbee. Blownaway. What about Drime?
This is nothing more than another english dialect that is from the colonies, similar to the southern drawl and roanoke english dialect. It's obvious they can't claim one Native tribal language because they would be challenged for it. They never existed before pre-colonization.
Standard English is the dialect that I grew up speaking. I have lived down south most of my life and I ain't studen gon back to New York no time soon.
The African strain is very evident in many of the interviewed.
10:50, This is true. I was in Wal-Mart in Onslow county and heard a lady speaking on her phone. I immediately had to go over and say, "You're from Robeson County!". We chatted for a while and even exchanged phone numbers. Yes, I'm a Lum.
It kills me that my family lost this by moving to Baltimore. I feel robbed.
We might be related.
Don't feel robed it can't be on you it has to be in you it's rooted in your soul I'm from nc black and native so I feel you
Some of my family moved there in the 60's... my father lived there awhile w his sister. I have family there I've never met... feel like I got robbed off that too.. so I understand. But I also understand why they wanted to leave❤
Fascinating!
What did the native Americans called themselves before Comebusus and the Europeans called them Indians?
I love this for them! I wish the same recognition was given to other racially mixed indigenous tribes/people. My ancestors were told they "looked" too negro even though they resembled the people in this video!! 😔
Have you noticed that they’ve all gotten lighter and lighterWhy do they all look the same? The history books documented how the tribes looked and it wasn’t ONLY this. Why do they continue to be this way? Why do they hate and hide dark brown people? I don’t understand it.
Lumbee Lovers😍
My Grandma was lumbee her name was Neva Cox from North Carolina
I’m not lumbee but I’m waccamaw
My paternal grandmother was Lumbee. But it’s also understood some natives didn’t go with the changes and ended up being categorized as black and not indigenous.
That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever heard! How can you confuse a native man, with a black man? They have nothing in common.
there is no Lumbee river in any history, and Lumbee is a new made up name from 1953, in 1945 a pembroke locklear woman stated pembroke are the town indians and the swamp indians , also the artist speaking here once stated he was Yamisee, there was no lumbee in 1800s, The name lumbee came along 1950s, now the speak pattens presented are true, note no mention of Lumbee with in any of the known language native / Indigenous groups, the lost colony was just that to natives, lost to animals, lost to starvation, there is no connection to the so called lost colony,
Jeremiah 17:4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.
No Indigenous People need YT Immigrant validation to prove who they are in Their Own Country anywhere on the Planet☝🏾💯
Hi edagdwg thanks for sharing this history of respect for yourself and others God bless us all to. Know the truth about yourself no matter what people say or think about us linda j peace knowing god for yourself is a real gift from God pay attention to what you feel on the inside of yourself I'm sooooooo blessed to have a loving soul from God peace is all I want linda j peace ❤️🦋🦋🦋🦋💯💯💯💯☮️☮️🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🐦🌈
I've always had a problem with the American use of English. I have been teaching English as a part time job in China and Hong Kong for many years so tend to be more mainstream than most. After watching some of these programmes on You-Tube I feel totally different and have much more respect for the whole issue. Specially with Native Americans who have had this forced on them and done a great job of assimilating. Keep your traditions, they are so precious and use standard (American English) as you want or need to.
They are a fake tribe.
The girl's story @10:55 doesn't surprise me at all. I grew up next door in Scotland County. I relocated to Las Vegas, Nevada. I was at work and one day a new employee started work. As soon as he finished talking for the first time I said, "Are you from Robeson County?" For a moment he looked at me with a puzzled look. Then he said he was and it must I could tell from his accent.
Keeping being who you are! All tribes should support one another! Loss of language and culture is still happening today!
The other tribes DO NOT support Lumbee, mostly… Lumbee aren’t indigenous Native Americans, they’re black and European.
Lumbee are stealing culture from real tribes.
Ex. The Cherokee regalia, the medicine wheel on their banner is a northern plain tribes tradition, some of their are taking Navajo names like Nakai. They do not play the DNA card, because it discredit easily. This language program, come on, the whole south already speak like this.
Real tribes will NOT support a fake tribe like this one.
I'm a lumbee and proud to be .Brewington .Brown, cox. Bell Jacob Evan's I could go on copper tone what else would I be I love my roots and knowing I'm lumbee wake my s
Day full of pride.
I loved this! One of my good friends is Lumbee! I love listening to her talk. Our children grew up together and we gave honorably adopted each others children lol😆 I am trying to delve deeper I to my own genealogy to see if my mothers side have choctaw roots. It's a fun journey and I learn new things making the way even if my search comes to a dead end.
I am Lumbee my Family bloodline is Oxendine , Locklear , Graham , Hunt
Carter is also a bloodline of Lumbee/croatan.
I'm Carter,Chavis, oxendine
I am Lumbee from my mothers side.
Hi edagdwg thanks for sharing this history of for sharing what they want to do with yourself as a child of God only God can give us true hearts of love one another I'm soooooo blessed to know God for myself and careing about other people Linda j peace ❤️💯🦋🦋🦋🦋🐻🦋
Being yourself is a real gift being yourself all you have to do peace inside yourself is a gift from God soooooo blessed to feel real peace only God can you real peace sooooooo blessed to know God for myself j. ☮️ Linda jpeace 🦋🦋☮️🌈🐦🌈🙏🙏🙏🦋🦋🦋🦋
Watching with interest in east Yorkshire... Old guys here have a twang which is almost similar to Danish as we were invaded in ancient times... Would love to visit these areas
Lumbee look like skme Brazillian people look. A mix of everything
Wow! I learning more about Indians online. We didn’t know much about Indians from our history books. Growing up watching tv in the 60’s I saw movies about Indians. The movies would make the Indians were wild and crazy! I know they are beautiful people. My great grandmother was half Indian.
We can be little wild and crazy though 🤣😂🤣
These people aren't native.
My family is Nordic but we attend Powwow every year when all different tribes on the East coast meet on Rancocus where our community tribe lived originally. It a nature center most of the year. But at powwow you can meet all different Native American s see their garb, speak with the it's alot of fun ! We go on Columbus day.
@@blazefairchild465 Just don’t go to a Lumbee “pow wow”…. they’re not Native American
@@strnglhld Yes ,poor people they can’t be considered a tribe because their language wasn’t preserved. They are so mixed they spoke English. There is another tribe in the hills of NJ .They are a mixture or runaway slaves ,the natives who took them in and as the story goes became a hide out for anyone hiding from the law. They can’t get tribal status either.
Im locklear from saddletree(magnolia/chapel) and my daddy was a Spaniard..hey I love my ppl
Funny how they talk like southern Black Folks
Who is the man that was giving the history of pembroke and the different groups in the beginning of the video?
I might also relate to those who don't know but the actress Heather Locklear is the daughter of a man who grew up in NC and became I believe an educator when he went to California and after marriage had his daughter Heather whose blonde hair and fair skin might persuade some to not know she has Indian blood.
She doesn’t have Indian blood. Lumbee aren’t Indian. I have hundreds of Lumbee DNA matches on Ancestry and they’re % African % European and literally 0% Native American.
I'm white and grew up on a tobacco farm in Robeson County where most Lumbee people exist and well know that much of their ancestry is black and white but they insist they are Indians. And if you would bother to check you would discover that some years back the state of NC has recognized the Lumbee Tribe as Indians albeit not the federal government has not done the same.
And that is the goal of most such groups such as them in order to secure the federal assistance which are afforded to such groups. Yet the federal govt. demands a tribe have at least a 200 year historical record to be deemed a tribe and allotted the status of a tribe to benefit from federal grants, etc. I worked among these people on the farm and at a local textile mill in my youth before moving away and if any white person such as myself or even a black person should deign to suggest they are anything other than members of an indigenous group you would be met with violence among many of them.
So it was best to be discrete about such matters. Many of their features makes it clear a great deal of black DNA is in their makeup, but since the state deems to label them Indians I will do so myself since it is not a detriment to me nor financially debilitating to the govt. as per the tax dollars and who knows if at some point some of them didn't intermingle with the Cherokees in this state of which their are many in the western part. And many of them do look Indian in certain towns like Laurinburg where many white boys such as myself courted them because they were receptive to the attention.
My late sister-in-law was one and she looked more white than anything having blonde hair and blue eyes while the rest of her family looked very Indian especially her father who was a very big man and a WWII hero with the 82nd Airborne. Heather Locklear's father was an academic from that region and went to California to teach where he met her mother and they sired her. Who am I to dispute their wish to be deemed Indian and obviously this state (NC) decided it was appropriate.
I myself am have taken the 23andme test and have 7% black ancestry. But most of my family DNA is that of people who hailed from the UK, Scotland, and Ireland. I consider myself white however though at one time in the south even 1% of black blood would have had the state deeming me black. Do you consider it an insult to you these people and even the state of NC deeming them as Indians? I think not so as far as I'm concerned let them call themselves whatever they want if there's no cost to you that they do.
@@roymerritt6992 People lie, DNA doesn’t.
Its not a lie if you have been inculcated from the beginning of your life to believe you are one thing, in this case a member of an indigenous group i. e. Indians and have
the very state in which you live, in this case my home state of North Carolina to legally recognize you as such, and you can look that up to have it verified for you. Now the federal govt. doesn't recognize Lumbees as a legitimate tribe as I've recently posted but as I understand it not because they are willing to suggest these people aren't authentic people, but rather because they don't have a long enough tribal history, which I am certain means 200 yrs. of anthropological evidence of their tribes existence.
Let these people think they are Indians if the want, its no skin off my teeth and costs me nothing, and I expect the same pertains to you as well. Do you have any idea of how many white people claim they somehow have Indian blood in them? I've known many of them who have done so and I can clearly see this is nothing more than a fantasy or people like the idea of having the blood of the Nobel Savage running through their veins. I have had 23andme inform me that 7 percent of West African blood in my DNA which in the old south could have me declared as black because of the one percent rule? Am I going to suddenly claim I am black, well no I'm not because my own ancestors owned slaves and fought for the Confederacy, which is nothing I'm proud of.
My sister-in-law was an Lumbee and looked even more white than me. It's neither here nor there to me and I'm sure Heather Locklear has always been told she was Indian was what I initially posted on this matter. So my point is to let people claim they are whatever they want as long as it is innocent and really does no harm. Elizabeth Warren was told her whole life she was an Indian and I tend to think it wasn't anything nefarious as is these people claiming to be isn't nefarious either. In the end the only real race is the human race anyway.
@@roymerritt6992 I appreciate your intelligent response! Have a good night!
My grandfather is a Wilkins who relocated to New England after WWII
"Lumbee" is definitely not a language, there's a lot of different forms of English all over the world but it's still English. I do wonder though now what language family the Lumbee ancestors would have spoken. I'm Mohawk sewehiarak tsi onkwehonwe nisewaia'toten, ionkwahsa'stenhserowana! (Remember we're all the original people, we have great power!)
I've heard it was Sioux based
@@UnseenOct it's English.
@@capefearcapt4679 they asked what language lumbee ancestors would have spoken, and I responded that I heard it was Sioux based.
@@UnseenOct Lumbee ancestors were primarily Northern European and African, so either English or African.
@@capefearcapt4679 except they aren't and there have been many papers done on this subject. There is african blood because black slaves often mixed with indigenous tribes, all indigenous tribes. There are records going back to the 1800s where ancestors of Lumbees were known as Indians. A Lumbee man was able to keep his weapon in a court case during a time black people weren't allowed to have guns. They also owned land, something black people weren't allowed to do.
Very interesting and and educational. Enjoyed!
As a lifelong student of multiple languages, it seems to me that they are speaking a sort of pidgin English, or one could say an exaggerated southern slang set. Not a unique real language to be sure. I'm glad they have fun with it, but I personally find it annoying to listen to this mish-mash rambling.
My mother’s Puerto Rican and my fathers Lumbee. My daddies name was Bobo Locklear,I grew up between Bmore and NC.My family lives all over Lumberton but come from Back Swamp.I just recently moved back to Bmore.Love my Lums,they are the best and wildest people in the world.I know the language and I know the traditions,Lord have mercy,it was so different,but normal for us kids there from Bmore.I always say I’m one of the Bmore Lums.I know all about Pembroke and my family and friends but do the Lums there know of their families struggles and history in Baltimore?They don’t,they know some kin lived there but don’t know the real story of them owning one side of the city,controlling it by fear and business.You don’t mess with the Bmore Indians,they’ll cut you real quick😂LoudLove 🔊🔊🔊💜💜💜
On another video about these people they were saying that a disproportionate number of lum were drunks. Are you an alcoholic?
combination of Southern accent and Cajun accent, it is so special.
@Nunya Business word. Definitely no kindof Cajun there!
My grandmother was born in Chinquapin- grew up in that area. Anyone have any pointers to find out where her “blood” is from?
She was born at the turn of the century-ish… 1900 or so… Family name is Carter…
Not sure if this is of interest .But,they claim I1a1b mtdna hg is in your tribe .That is mine .It Is Croat ,but the highest concentration comes from Africa.I read about an escape of slaves from Cherokee Owners.And some are said to have vanished.Some call us Melungeons .Me.So another possibility of this haplogroup presence is that the slaves from East Africa were present among those slaves that disappeared.I wish I knew .Yall dont sound much different from me in accent .My gg grandfather named James Roberson ,father;s side....was from Robeson ..his name was James Roberson.Maternal side is Ely,Adams and Allens.I cant get past my gg grandmother.TY..good luck .