Is no one going to address the awful click-bait title of this video? If, like me, you only clicked to see who 'him' is, it's not even revealed as far as I can find, but it's probably Magic Alex.
george martin was vital to the beatles success, i'd often wondered how they utilized musical theory in a lot of their work, they were young/green and none of them could even read music. they were obviously very talented, great performers, and quick learners, i think many of us attributed it to paul's "genius", paul often mentioned theory in how he structured chords and resolutions. it all makes sense now, that expertise in musical theory came from george martin. it would appear the beatles leaned heavily on george martin's expertise, and it seems george was very generous with that knowledge, he most definitely was the 5th beatle.
Agree. When Days of Future past came out, I ran to the store to buy the LP. I still consider it one of the greatest albums of all time. Put on the record, Just kick back and with no drugs, take a journey.
The producer's job is to shape whatever is front of him with an ear to selling records -- which is why record companies exist. But he was unique in being interested in experimentation, and knowing when to get out of the way.
He was wrong about “Within You and Without You.” In fact, “Pepper” may not have become the psychedelic heavyweight masterpiece without it. It’s also the deepest lyrics on the album.
If you look at in terms of the psychedelic times, Northern Song is very Syd Barrett early Pink Floyd. After all, the 2 bands were recording Pink's first album and Sgt. Pepper at Abbey Road at the same time, and listened in on each others' sessions, and no doubt got ideas from each other. One cannot deny the similar flavors in both albums.
In Yesterday, McCartney had no desire for a classical feel, he was just going to record with his guitar. I was Martin who suggested a string quartet. I just get disgusted how people make shit up as they go along rather than read several sources in detail about a subject like I did over decades.
Recording Beatles songs in German made sense as the Beatles had made their mark in Hamburg, the fan base from those clubs would remember them. George Martin didn’t particularly hate George Harrison though he may have prioritised John and Paul as they were coming up with the bulk of the songs. George trod a fine line between control and allowing experimentation and was the 5th Beatle.
George Martin's opinions may have been wrong in some respects, but being the fifth Beatle allowed him to do what he wished. Many greats who jammed with the Beatles have been dubbed the 5th Beatle and I think these other rockers deserved to be knighted with the title. I think I love many of them, but were they? George Martin spent hours recording, arranging, and sculpting the sounds we heard for the first time over our portable radios as the latest from "The Beatles". As a 14 year old boy I always pictured them playing as I had seen them for the first time on the Ed Sullivan show. George Martin to me will always be the fifth Beatle.
"Many greats who jammed with the Beatles have been dubbed the 5th Beatle" This is totally FALSE. Only TWO other people - other than Beatles' producer George Martin - were ever called "Fifth" Beatles. They were "Murray the K" and Billy Preston. Neither of them were ever close to being "Fifth" Beatles. "Murray the K" was only a "DJ" and Billy Preston played on about three tracks on Let It Be. He was just a session musician on the "Let It Be" album. Nothing more.
Yes it is a good song but they took it slightly too far out of tune. Yes that was part of the lyrics I know but you can't take a song that far out of tune. Still a bloody good song though.
I agree with George Martin in tracks like "within you, without you, revolution 9, very strange no doubt, but very curious but if in case didn't have other wonderful tracks like " Rocky raccoon, Black bird, back to ussr, the albun would lose its atraction if depended in revolution 9.
he was called that, but the lads never ever considered him that. Not at all. And Geoff Emerick was every bit as important as George Martin, who never engineered any Beatles music. \
George Martin educated and enhanced the Beatles. The instruments that came in on those short songs. He was the 5th Beatle. Why he didn't get along with George? I dont' know. George was dealing with being under the greatest songwriting duo and not getting their ears for help too many times. That's why George had a triple album after their break up. And Ringo had big hits soon after too.
What I think is he largely stayed out of their way. He was there to assist and facilitate their requests. But they also realized they could learn a lot from him and benefit from his expertise as a producer.
@@paulzollo9710 I seem to remember hearing McCartney say that he recoiled at the suggestion to have a classical element in the song, believing that he and his friends were rock 'n' rollers.
Revolution 9 is on the album but not a song. It was avant garde and therefore risky. How many people have listened the who way through the song? I’m not saying there is any reason to. However, it was an experimental age and if it is 100% guaranteed that an experimental song is a hit then it wouldn’t be experimental. They took chances. They were certainly big enough that everything they did did not have to be a success.
This is garbage. Rev9 was an experiment that Paul was involved with, it was him who provided loops as well as J&Y. Pepper was also hindered when SFF and PL which were both meant for the album were released as a single leaving them two tracks short. OaNS was something George had but it wasn't complete. They decided on two others which were quickly finished off I believe these were Good Morning and When I'm 64.
I was a pre-teen when 'revolution 9' came out on the white album. I thought it was super. I had been an avid fan since kindergarten and the ed sullivan thing. Revolution 9 has always been a favorite of mine. Thanks, John.
At first, that song just got on my nerves, but I was patient and kept listening to it and it grew on me. The sonic flow of it has a certain quality. It's an interesting piece of work. And contrary to what George Martin thought, it DID fit on the White Album. It just wouldn't have fit on any other Beatles album.
@@RadicalCaveman It fit on the white album very well, and it is meant to drain your mind of programmed concepts and be taken into sounds in general. There is in fact message in it, but mainly it is a piece to simply hear and let it move you wherever it does. It moves me very well and very deeply, and I don't have to be all cerebral about it, either.
I think I have already deciphered the chaotic song of Lennon titled Revolution 9 that George Martin and Paul McCartney dislike about, the content of the Revolution 9 is not about a song per se but a message about the influx of occurrences to occur in the future displayed by the song bizaare uncomprehensible sounds lyrics and overlapping noise, it's about the reality battles to occurr and about to attempt overlap at each other in the future followed by the souls of beings comprised per reality as if making their each presentations be heared, sensed and felt like being contained in some sort of timeframes. While George Harrison song of another dislike of George Martin, the Only A Northern song is about souls of spooky and gloomy environment like being in a choir of chanting and flowing of sounds in a trance, the victims of oppressions or the restless of souls of their abode. In the light category there's a verse about souls asking for justice to God in their assembly area in a particular place of not yet in the 3rd Heaven because there are events to happen prior to the last judgment of God.
George M. post Beatles put finger to the wind to enjoin 'the poor Paul' camp in parlaying a whistled foul call on John's lyrical choices in the 'How do you sleep' payback-to-Paul's weaponized 'Too many people.' One being ' the sound you make is Musak to my ears, you must of learned something in all those years.' You can find it some Mac biography. Yet Martin is one of a long list to learn JL will take the piss out of you as if rules on conduct are someone else's hang-up. So he might just say there is not ONE song he doesn't want to re-record or he might rant about how he can't stand to listen to Lucy in the Sky in its abysmal sounding state then praising Elton's much better recorded version. He might never again mention GM again in interviews. John wasn't the side of the bread GM buttered.
I must say that I agree with George Martin’s assessment of the songs mentioned was spot on ! ( & not of the standards that most of their other songs they produced)
This is really shoddy. Mostly UNTRUE and certainly uninformed, inaccurate and overstated. George Martin did not create the revolutionary recording ideas that defined the Beatles. He helped them to achieve them. But these ideas = such as backwards sounds created by playing the analog tape in reverse - was Lennon's idea. And it was their genius engineer Geoff Emerick who actually did the work which made it real. Martin often took credit for things Geoff Emerick pioneered, such as close-miking, or the cutting up and reassembling recordings for effect such as on "For the Benefit of Mr. Kite." Harrison's "Only A Northern Song" was NOT by any means the only song Martin didn't appreciate at first. He didn't like George Harrison's masterpiece "Within You Without You." Yet it was Martin's great ability to write out orchestral parts - such as Eleanor Rigby as you mentioned (Inspired by the stabbing strings in Hitchcock's "Psycho" as well as "Yesterday" and others. Martin's orchestral parts on "Within You Without You" - written to match the Indian instruments on the track - is genius. Let's give him credit for what he actually did. He was very good at doing that, and also helping the Beatles achieve their amazing vocal harmonies by being at the piano and playing the notes required to sing harmony correctly - even very complex harmony. The best example is "Because" on which John Paul and George sang nine harmony parts - but with limited tracks then, had to sing together, three parts at a time. Because of this, any mistake meant they had to do it over by singing. Without George, that and other aspects would not have been possible. No doubt. George Martin did not like Lennon's "I Am A Walrus" at first, and said, "WHAT are we going to do with that????" Also, using this title for this video is as bizarre and false as the phony voice which reads it and puts a pause in the name "Sgt. Pepper." Which sounds as stupid as the distortions presented bas truth. I think "artificial intelligence" is the wrong term for what it is. How about "Almost No Intelligence." To speak Engliush correctly? They cannot control that? It sounds IDIOTIC. Why not drop the salacious snarky angle, false name and distortions to do this way better? This is really not worthy of The Beatles. Or anyone creating great work. Their history is not so long ago or so obscure as to get it right. It would require some serious work.
A brilliant and well-informed series of comments. Comprehensive and well written. They sum up my feelings about George Martin. Sadly, many RUclipsrs try to find an angle where there is no angle. I am guessing this person has a background as a journalist.
It was a waste of space, to include revolution9 to the White Album. Revolution 9 is the bullshit that Ono planted into Lennon's head. I listened to the White Album a thousand times, to Revolution 9 i listened exactly two times. Revolution 9 is absolutely trash. Is it art? Never.
Revolution number 9 was originally inspired by George Harrison's Wonderwall music, and famous jazz orchestra's styles, that inspired the Beatles overall, not Lennon and Ono.
What I think without being really aware about the whole details, it is just a main impression, is that Yoko Ono probably thought she had a role to play to make the Beatles even better than they were. Or something like this. Humans see the world as if half of it were themselves. Good intentions sometimes end up with bad consequences. The fact that she was kind of omnipresent in the Beatles work hours surely interfered with the way they were working together, for sure. Then, perhaps John's way of seing things also was changing on its own, I don't know... I will not blame her, because I really think she was wanting to give peace a chance and make love win over human selfish survival genes. She tried, and no one knows what would have happened if she did not interfere. And for George Martin, I am a great admirer of the music he made for Yellow Submarine. I read his book... was very interesting. From what I feel, he helped bring originality in the details. And yes, I probably tried to listen to revolution 9 to try to see if there would be some seconds in it I would like, but found nothing or not much. I could give it another try but I am not inclined to, really. By the way, have you listened to Joan Baez's version of Eleanor Rigby?
I quite agree on most ideas but I do not st all share the idea about "Within you and without you " which is, to my opinion, a fantastic song that fits into the concept of Sergeant Pepper's very well. This album is a complete renewal of the Beatles sounds and styles, opening new doors and projections and Harrison's song is quite into the idea of the album... I love this song but I always hated " A Nothern song " which to my opinion should never have been released and is a shame to the talent of George Harrison compositions. It is the worse that the beatles have been produced with maybe " Number 9 ". I feel " one after 909" very interesting as the Beatles wanted to go back to normal and easy natural songs after all the studio and orchestration work that had been done. this song is genuine and fresh with a good dynamic and it is one of Lennon Mc Cartney first compositions which is even more interesting, It would have been an errorand a shame no to produce it.
@@stuartmorriss I am exactly the opposite. I love nearly everything from Rubber Soul on and i only like a few songs from their first 4 albums. Let It Be indeed sounds kind of lame but the 2004 "Naked" remix is much better.
Apparently Harrison was always moaning about money. Within You Without You is a bit of a dirge I think and I therefore agree with G. Martin that most of Harrison's songs weren't even good enough to be B sides. However, that said, his slightly acidic tone does offer an antidote to McCartney's relentlessly upbeat optimism. Must add that Harrison's 'If I Needed Someone' is superb! Thanks.
Absolutely nuts. Each album after Pepper is a masterpiece. And that is how it has and will go down in history. You would have to be in the smallest of minorities with that opinion.
Wasn't his job to write songs...Why didn't John or George work with him in their solo careers? Because he insisted on getting things right. Most of their solo vocals didn't measure up to that standard.
George Martin didn't write songs, but he wrote a great pile of filler, fiddly bits of orchestral and keyboard stuff that were in many of the Fabs songs, very recognizable and very important -- but for which Sir George didn't get or ask credit. "Overrated" is just off.
all orchestra bits in Beatles songs are by Martin, half of the Yellow Submarine LP are Martin compositions (and they are pretty good may i add). Most beatles didn’t work with Martin after the breakup just because they want to stay away from all Beatles related stuff, Martin was like another member of the band so the breakup meant also separating from him. He was a perfectionist also, so most of the members didn’t want to work with him for that reason, they feel they should be more “free”. If you listen to Tug of War you would notice how that album is literally perfect in production and mix compared to all McCartney solo albums, martin was truly a master of his craft
As an ardent Beatles' fan, I agreed with the George Martin's opinions mentioned here more than not. But, I liked "Only A Northern Song" and "Within You Without You".. I agree that the tone of "Within You Without You" didn't quite fit with the other songs on "Pepper". I totally agreed with Martin regarding the inappropriate nature of the Anthology songs. Further, Jeff Lynne wasn't an adequate replacement as producer for a "Beatles" album. No one is. That project should have been shelved once Martin wasn't on board with it. "The Anthology" project was an obvious attempt to sell records which wasn't the Beatles' "style". Furthermore, the Lennon penned songs were "LAME". Lennon WAS totally "LAME" during that LAME "Double Fantasy" period. That album SUCKED. I bought it as a Beatles fan, but I probably played it once or twice but never in totality. It was too painful to listen to straight through.
Is no one going to address the awful click-bait title of this video?
If, like me, you only clicked to see who 'him' is, it's not even revealed as far as I can find, but it's probably Magic Alex.
Thanks for that heads up. I very much dislike clickbait. I aIso Ioathe A.I. narratives.
There is nothing that can be done. Reports don't work. The only solution is to stop using YT. There are alternatives.
@@RawPower-69 The alternatives have the same probIems.
@@RawPower-69 But there's nothing you can do that can't be done. It's easy.
It was most likely Phill Spector, but yeah, terrible title.
george martin was vital to the beatles success, i'd often wondered how they utilized musical theory in a lot of their work, they were young/green and none of them could even read music. they were obviously very talented, great performers, and quick learners, i think many of us attributed it to paul's "genius", paul often mentioned theory in how he structured chords and resolutions.
it all makes sense now, that expertise in musical theory came from george martin. it would appear the beatles leaned heavily on george martin's expertise, and it seems george was very generous with that knowledge, he most definitely was the 5th beatle.
As innovative as The Beatles were, another great English group that is hardly ever mentioned is The. Moody Blues.
Agree. When Days of Future past came out, I ran to the store to buy the LP. I still consider it one of the greatest albums of all time.
Put on the record, Just kick back and with no drugs, take a journey.
The producer's job is to shape whatever is front of him with an ear to selling records -- which is why record companies exist.
But he was unique in being interested in experimentation, and knowing when to get out of the way.
He was wrong about “Within You and Without You.” In fact, “Pepper” may not have become the psychedelic heavyweight masterpiece without it. It’s also the deepest lyrics on the album.
Aaaaaand... George H. had already composed "Love you to" for the Revolver album...
Most musically *and* lyrically accomplished thing they ever did. Amazing that people don't like it.
Revolution number 9, was random tape loop sound effects. no music involved, it was just a sound collage.
Yep, and it was a great addition to the 'White Album'.
If you look at in terms of the psychedelic times, Northern Song is very Syd Barrett early Pink Floyd. After all, the 2 bands were recording Pink's first album and Sgt. Pepper at Abbey Road at the same time, and listened in on each others' sessions, and no doubt got ideas from each other. One cannot deny the similar flavors in both albums.
In Yesterday, McCartney had no desire for a classical feel, he was just going to record with his guitar. I was Martin who suggested a string quartet. I just get disgusted how people make shit up as they go along rather than read several sources in detail about a subject like I did over decades.
" Him " was NEVER revealed . I'm sick and fed up with these misleading titles .
Recording Beatles songs in German made sense as the Beatles had made their mark in Hamburg, the fan base from those clubs would remember them. George Martin didn’t particularly hate George Harrison though he may have prioritised John and Paul as they were coming up with the bulk of the songs. George trod a fine line between control and allowing experimentation and was the 5th Beatle.
George Martin's opinions may have been wrong in some respects, but being the fifth Beatle allowed him to do what he wished. Many greats who jammed with the Beatles have been dubbed the 5th Beatle and I think these other rockers deserved to be knighted with the title. I think I love many of them, but were they? George Martin spent hours recording, arranging, and sculpting the sounds we heard for the first time over our portable radios as the latest from "The Beatles". As a 14 year old boy I always pictured them playing as I had seen them for the first time on the Ed Sullivan show. George Martin to me will always be the fifth Beatle.
"Many greats who jammed with the Beatles have been dubbed the 5th Beatle" This is totally FALSE. Only TWO other people - other than Beatles' producer George Martin - were ever called "Fifth" Beatles. They were "Murray the K" and Billy Preston. Neither of them were ever close to being "Fifth" Beatles. "Murray the K" was only a "DJ" and Billy Preston played on about three tracks on Let It Be. He was just a session musician on the "Let It Be" album. Nothing more.
No matter what George Martin might have thought of it, I just love It's Only A Northern Song.
thank you. me too. this video sucks.
Yes it is a good song but they took it slightly too far out of tune. Yes that was part of the lyrics I know but you can't take a song that far out of tune. Still a bloody good song though.
@@DeadlyKiss000 On purpose and ingeniously out of tune.
@@theo9952 Yes but a touch too much if you ask me
@@DeadlyKiss000 he was making a point by the song and not trying to to make it a musical masterpiece.
Without competition, George Martin IS the 5th Beatle. The final piece to an amazing journey.
I agree with George Martin in tracks like "within you, without you, revolution 9, very strange no doubt, but very curious but if in case didn't have other wonderful tracks like " Rocky raccoon, Black bird, back to ussr, the albun would lose its atraction if depended in revolution 9.
Paul and Ringo are still alive.
It is too late to mull about tensions of decades back.
George Martin was the 5th Beatle and many Beatle fans (and of course musicians) know that - great commentary
HAHAHA
he was called that, but the lads never ever considered him that. Not at all. And Geoff Emerick was every bit as important as George Martin, who never engineered any Beatles music. \
George Martin educated and enhanced the Beatles. The instruments that came in on those short songs. He was the 5th Beatle. Why he didn't get along with George? I dont' know. George was dealing with being under the greatest songwriting duo and not getting their ears for help too many times. That's why George had a triple album after their break up. And Ringo had big hits soon after too.
Within You and Without You was a total masterpiece.
the east meets the west.
YES! Agreed.
I quite agree .. it is a master piece
The East eats the West.
YES
@@grantkoeller8911 the East eats the West...
Only a Northern Song would have fit the Sgt. Pepper concept, especially since it was supposed to be a fictional band.
Rather the White Album along with It's All Too Much. These two would replace Revolution #9
What I think is he largely stayed out of their way. He was there to assist and facilitate their requests. But they also realized they could learn a lot from him and benefit from his expertise as a producer.
McCartney did not want a classical feel in 'Yesterday'. It was Martin who suggested it, and McCartney had to be talked into it.
not exactly...
@@paulzollo9710 I seem to remember hearing McCartney say that he recoiled at the suggestion to have a classical element in the song, believing that he and his friends were rock 'n' rollers.
Revolution 9 is on the album but not a song. It was avant garde and therefore risky. How many people have listened the who way through the song? I’m not saying there is any reason to. However, it was an experimental age and if it is 100% guaranteed that an experimental song is a hit then it wouldn’t be experimental. They took chances. They were certainly big enough that everything they did did not have to be a success.
This shoulda been called, “He Truly Hated These.”
I’ve always enjoyed One After 909! Maybe I’m in the minority here.
You have to understand something, an artist job is to make art. Once it is made other can take it form there. Thats the way it is folks
This is garbage. Rev9 was an experiment that Paul was involved with, it was him who provided loops as well as J&Y. Pepper was also hindered when SFF and PL which were both meant for the album were released as a single leaving them two tracks short. OaNS was something George had but it wasn't complete. They decided on two others which were quickly finished off I believe these were Good Morning and When I'm 64.
I was a pre-teen when 'revolution 9' came out on the white album. I thought it was super. I had been an avid fan since kindergarten and the ed sullivan thing. Revolution 9 has always been a favorite of mine. Thanks, John.
RUclips has many backwards versions of #9 that are haunting!
At first, that song just got on my nerves, but I was patient and kept listening to it and it grew on me. The sonic flow of it has a certain quality. It's an interesting piece of work. And contrary to what George Martin thought, it DID fit on the White Album. It just wouldn't have fit on any other Beatles album.
@@RadicalCaveman It fit on the white album very well, and it is meant to drain your mind of programmed concepts and be taken into sounds in general. There is in fact message in it, but mainly it is a piece to simply hear and let it move you wherever it does. It moves me very well and very deeply, and I don't have to be all cerebral about it, either.
8:58 Within You Without You is my favorite track on Pepper!! Emerick’s sound is incredible and Martin’s strings pull it all together.
I think I have already deciphered the chaotic song of Lennon titled Revolution 9 that George Martin and Paul McCartney dislike about, the content of the Revolution 9 is not about a song per se but a message about the influx of occurrences to occur in the future displayed by the song bizaare uncomprehensible sounds lyrics and overlapping noise, it's about the reality battles to occurr and about to attempt overlap at each other in the future followed by the souls of beings comprised per reality as if making their each presentations be heared, sensed and felt like being contained in some sort of timeframes. While George Harrison song of another dislike of George Martin, the Only A Northern song is about souls of spooky and gloomy environment like being in a choir of chanting and flowing of sounds in a trance, the victims of oppressions or the restless of souls of their abode. In the light category there's a verse about souls asking for justice to God in their assembly area in a particular place of not yet in the 3rd Heaven because there are events to happen prior to the last judgment of God.
Agreed, well mostly :)
Honey, the period is essential in sentences.
Every great team needs a coach.
George M. post Beatles put finger to the wind to enjoin 'the poor Paul' camp in parlaying a whistled foul call on John's lyrical choices in the 'How do you sleep' payback-to-Paul's weaponized 'Too many people.' One being ' the sound you make is Musak to my ears, you must of learned something in all those years.' You can find it some Mac biography. Yet Martin is one of a long list to learn JL will take the piss out of you as if rules on conduct are someone else's hang-up. So he might just say there is not ONE song he doesn't want to re-record or he might rant about how he can't stand to listen to Lucy in the Sky in its abysmal sounding state then praising Elton's much better recorded version. He might never again mention GM again in interviews. John wasn't the side of the bread GM buttered.
One after 9zero9 ?
Another revisionist history lesson.
Blah blah blah. George Martin hated nobody.
Who is that at 6:11 ?
Hey man, wake up, it's MAGIC ALEX ! 😎
I must say that I agree with George Martin’s assessment of the songs mentioned was spot on ! ( & not of the standards that most of their other songs they produced)
Number 9 blew my mind when I first heard it at age 15, same with Wild Honey Pie.
" take these brother may it serve you well "
This is really shoddy. Mostly UNTRUE and certainly uninformed, inaccurate and overstated. George Martin did not create the revolutionary recording ideas that defined the Beatles. He helped them to achieve them. But these ideas = such as backwards sounds created by playing the analog tape in reverse - was Lennon's idea. And it was their genius engineer Geoff Emerick who actually did the work which made it real. Martin often took credit for things Geoff Emerick pioneered, such as close-miking, or the cutting up and reassembling recordings for effect such as on "For the Benefit of Mr. Kite."
Harrison's "Only A Northern Song" was NOT by any means the only song Martin didn't appreciate at first. He didn't like George Harrison's masterpiece "Within You Without You." Yet it was Martin's great ability to write out orchestral parts - such as Eleanor Rigby as you mentioned (Inspired by the stabbing strings in Hitchcock's "Psycho" as well as "Yesterday" and others. Martin's orchestral parts on "Within You Without You" - written to match the Indian instruments on the track - is genius. Let's give him credit for what he actually did.
He was very good at doing that, and also helping the Beatles achieve their amazing vocal harmonies by being at the piano and playing the notes required to sing harmony correctly - even very complex harmony. The best example is "Because" on which John Paul and George sang nine harmony parts - but with limited tracks then, had to sing together, three parts at a time. Because of this, any mistake meant they had to do it over by singing.
Without George, that and other aspects would not have been possible. No doubt.
George Martin did not like Lennon's "I Am A Walrus" at first, and said, "WHAT are we going to do with that????"
Also, using this title for this video is as bizarre and false as the phony voice which reads it and puts a pause in the name "Sgt. Pepper." Which sounds as stupid as the distortions presented bas truth. I think "artificial intelligence" is the wrong term for what it is. How about "Almost No Intelligence." To speak Engliush correctly? They cannot control that? It sounds IDIOTIC.
Why not drop the salacious snarky angle, false name and distortions to do this way better? This is really not worthy of The Beatles. Or anyone creating great work. Their history is not so long ago or so obscure as to get it right. It would require some serious work.
A brilliant and well-informed series of comments. Comprehensive and well written. They sum up my feelings about George Martin. Sadly, many RUclipsrs try to find an angle where there is no angle. I am guessing this person has a background as a journalist.
I just listened to the Naked Version. George Martin was correct.
Naked is one of their best albums
George Martin was able to tak
"... the Beatles'es work ..."
It was a waste of space, to include revolution9 to the White Album. Revolution 9 is the bullshit that Ono planted into Lennon's head. I listened to the White Album a thousand times, to Revolution 9 i listened exactly two times. Revolution 9 is absolutely trash. Is it art? Never.
Revolution number 9 was originally inspired by George Harrison's Wonderwall music, and famous jazz orchestra's styles, that inspired the Beatles overall, not Lennon and Ono.
@@MarkSeibold hello from austria! thank you for your message. what i like the least about >revolution9
What I think without being really aware about the whole details, it is just a main impression, is that Yoko Ono probably thought she had a role to play to make the Beatles even better than they were. Or something like this. Humans see the world as if half of it were themselves. Good intentions sometimes end up with bad consequences. The fact that she was kind of omnipresent in the Beatles work hours surely interfered with the way they were working together, for sure. Then, perhaps John's way of seing things also was changing on its own, I don't know... I will not blame her, because I really think she was wanting to give peace a chance and make love win over human selfish survival genes. She tried, and no one knows what would have happened if she did not interfere. And for George Martin, I am a great admirer of the music he made for Yellow Submarine. I read his book... was very interesting. From what I feel, he helped bring originality in the details.
And yes, I probably tried to listen to revolution 9 to try to see if there would be some seconds in it I would like, but found nothing or not much. I could give it another try but I am not inclined to, really. By the way, have you listened to Joan Baez's version of Eleanor Rigby?
Yeah and Hey Bungalow Bill and O bla di O bla da are masterpieces ....
Revolution 9 is trash. Spoiled the revolution of White Album being in the end of great collection of Beatles masterpieces!
He probably hated Phil Spector
what a bunch of horse exhaust
I quite agree on most ideas but I do not st all share the idea about "Within you and without you " which is, to my opinion, a fantastic song that fits into the concept of Sergeant Pepper's very well. This album is a complete renewal of the Beatles sounds and styles, opening new doors and projections and Harrison's song is quite into the idea of the album... I love this song but I always hated " A Nothern song " which to my opinion should never have been released and is a shame to the talent of George Harrison compositions. It is the worse that the beatles have been produced with maybe " Number 9 ". I feel " one after 909" very interesting as the Beatles wanted to go back to normal and easy natural songs after all the studio and orchestration work that had been done. this song is genuine and fresh with a good dynamic and it is one of Lennon Mc Cartney first compositions which is even more interesting, It would have been an errorand a shame no to produce it.
nine zero nine? come on try harder!
As a Beatles fan, "Love Me Do" is embarrassing.
It's what we in the sixties called "bubble gum" music, for tweens. See, the Beatles were first with that, too.
I think their first 4 Albums were the best.was not a big fan of Revolver or Let It be apart for 3 or 4 tracks.
Hm.. it is funny but although I hardly bother with their before Rubber Soul work, I always liked Love Me Do.
@@stuartmorriss I am exactly the opposite. I love nearly everything from Rubber Soul on and i only like a few songs from their first 4 albums. Let It Be indeed sounds kind of lame but the 2004 "Naked" remix is much better.
Apparently Harrison was always moaning about money. Within You Without You is a bit of a dirge I think and I therefore agree with G. Martin that most of Harrison's songs weren't even good enough to be B sides. However, that said, his slightly acidic tone does offer an antidote to McCartney's relentlessly upbeat optimism. Must add that Harrison's 'If I Needed Someone' is superb! Thanks.
"Apparently Harrison was always moaning about money." Well I guess if you were paying 90% of your income to "The Taxman", you'd be moaning too...
I don't give a shit what Martin says about anything.
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He hated Phil Spectre. No surprise. Many did, for a variety of reasons.
Rev9 was through away garbage that converts an otherwise brilliant album.
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he hated freddy and the dreamers
They should have broken up the band after Pepper.
Abbey Road is more ground breaking in my opinion
Absolutely nuts. Each album after Pepper is a masterpiece. And that is how it has and will go down in history. You would have to be in the smallest of minorities with that opinion.
Why didn´t Mr. Martin write a thing...? Overrated. Why did neither Lennon or Harrison work with Mr. Martin after Beatles...?
Wasn't his job to write songs...Why didn't John or George work with him in their solo careers? Because he insisted on getting things right. Most of their solo vocals didn't measure up to that standard.
George Martin didn't write songs, but he wrote a great pile of filler, fiddly bits of orchestral and keyboard stuff that were in many of the Fabs songs, very recognizable and very important -- but for which Sir George didn't get or ask credit. "Overrated" is just off.
all orchestra bits in Beatles songs are by Martin, half of the Yellow Submarine LP are Martin compositions (and they are pretty good may i add).
Most beatles didn’t work with Martin after the breakup just because they want to stay away from all Beatles related stuff, Martin was like another member of the band so the breakup meant also separating from him.
He was a perfectionist also, so most of the members didn’t want to work with him for that reason, they feel they should be more “free”.
If you listen to Tug of War you would notice how that album is literally perfect in production and mix compared to all McCartney solo albums, martin was truly a master of his craft
@@FinalFantasyIV I too love the orchestal side of the Yellow Submarine LP. I wish G. Martin had composed more music.
He did write songs. One that sticks out I. My mind was The Game on Mary Hopkin’s Post Card album.
I also never liked the songs of Harrison ,I always skip them.
As an ardent Beatles' fan, I agreed with the George Martin's opinions mentioned here more than not. But, I liked "Only A Northern Song" and "Within You Without You".. I agree that the tone of "Within You Without You" didn't quite fit with the other songs on "Pepper". I totally agreed with Martin regarding the inappropriate nature of the Anthology songs. Further, Jeff Lynne wasn't an adequate replacement as producer for a "Beatles" album. No one is. That project should have been shelved once Martin wasn't on board with it. "The Anthology" project was an obvious attempt to sell records which wasn't the Beatles' "style". Furthermore, the Lennon penned songs were "LAME". Lennon WAS totally "LAME" during that LAME "Double Fantasy" period. That album SUCKED. I bought it as a Beatles fan, but I probably played it once or twice but never in totality. It was too painful to listen to straight through.