Brilliant. As a long-time Genesis fan who morphed into a Phil Collins fan, thank you. Your discussion of early Genesis and Phil's history with the accident that became 'In The Air Tonight' reveals the genius that I feel Mr. Collin truly is. Phil's unique approach and drum sound, coupled with a one-of-a-kind voice, are so well presented we really get a warm view of the man without it being too 'fan-boyish'. It is factually interesting, well-paced, and entertaining. What more can we ask? I now need to see more of your work. Oh, and the cover is pretty fire, too.
Thank you so much for your kind words!! As a drummer I didn’t realize just how badass Phil’s early Genesis work was. My reactions to those tunes were unplanned and genuine! And for months now, after filming, I keep going back and listening to these records as a new fan myself :) And by the way, as far as NoRadio’s music… there are some very special original tunes releasing next! Please make sure to say hi over on our channel and IG! ❤️
@@DimitriFantini Every time I go back and listen, I am again amazed. These guys were so well-balanced. All equal in creativity and ability. But Phil brought an energy that boosted the entire ensemble. He made everyone better. Subtle, bold, nuanced, bombastic.....whatever it took he seemed to find it. Huge respect. Plus, he can sing a bit.
Yeah, I was 14 years old when I bought the album "A Trick of the Tail" and fell in love. It was the first album where Phil had taken over singing from Peter Gabriel and it was the best album I had ever heard.
This is just ace. Phil Collins has been such an influence on my playing, he doesn’t get anywhere near the accolades he should. I went to a gig last year and it was hard to see him as he is now. Thankyou for doing this.
Great video, really entertaining. I'm a Phil fan and still think that Squonk is probably THE deepest drum groove I've ever heard. Phil's time and sound are legendary. He got some backlash through the years as people got a little tired but he wrote, produced, played and toured relentlessly. Totally deserves credit.
One part of Phil's history you completely missed is Brand X (and as a drummer you should know). Brand X were basically Phil's side fusion band that toured and recorded simultaneously from the mid 70s to early 80s as he was in Genesis. Some of Phil's best drumming were on those records.
You’re absolutely right about Brand X! Too much to cover in one video… in fact a close friend of mine tours with them and had asked me to sub for him… then Covid happened and everything changed! I would have definitely put that in this video if it had happened haha
Perhaps when the dust clears, you can find time to feature Collins in Brand X and highlight the fusion style he snuck into Genesis. Perhaps even showing the full arc of his drumming. Everyone knows Phil's voice, but too few fully appreciate the musicality (and nuance) of his drums.
@firstmusic0021 in 1981 I was banging my head to this new band called Metallica... didn't really care too much about Phil Collins at the time. So yeah, "Drum Phil" is new to me. Maybe now I can be as cool as you.
I saw Genesis live in Auckland in 1987, and there was a drum 'battle' between Chester Thompson and Phil Collins that went for almost 10 minutes, and it was EPIC!!
Identical pearl drum sets, one left hand small out front, one set right hand with a grand man, those two mirroring each other’s movements in perfect harmony filling the Civic Arena, WOW
@ericmccarty9656 just looked it up. That's just 2400 people capacity. Cool. I saw Offspring with only 4000 crowd, just after Smash. I saw Violent Femmes with 800 people crowd in the 80's (my sister gave me free tickets as venue was her client). Was a great great night, they were excellent, every note, same as album with live action. Naked crowd almost. 100% high and drunk in Byron. Drove back to Ballina and Lismore after it.
@@ericmccarty9656 Yeah the lefty vs righty kits had a really cool visual appeal on stage, it looked like there was a 1 kit mirrored but they were both playing.
I recorded a video tape off TV in the early 90's which I was sure was a Phil versus Chester on stage but with body drum pads, and I recollect it was "We wait and we wonder" with a real military feel, but not sure Chester ever performed in PC solo tours, so could be my hazy memory... I also cannot find any references on t'interwebs
Anyone who is a fan of Genesis and Phil Collins should absolutely read Collins' memoir, "Not Dead Yet'. In fact, I would recommend you get the audiobook to hear it in Phil's own voice. As a life-long Genesis and Collins fan who thought he knew every there was to know about the band, I highly recommend it.
It's not just the drumfill itself. It the tension build before it, the drumfill itself as a surprise (more like a shock) and the anger discharge that follows until the very last drum beat.
I love the build up of tension in the song and when the drum fill hits it’s truly perfect. The thing is, I’ve always felt the rest of the song didn’t live up to that incredible buildup. The drum fill IS the climax of the song. I always felt like it needed a heavier ending or something, or a tasteful lead melody that soars on guitar or keys. But it just kind of continues on to the end.
It's not just the drum fill. It's the total buildup to the drum fill. The song makes you want it, desire it, demand it through the beginning. You expect the drum fill. And when it comes, it is very impactful.
It's like the song Hey Jude where the audience is waiting waiting for the Na Na Na Na Na Na Na's! The Drum break doesn't hit until the end of the last verse - when I sing Hey Jude remeber the Na Na's don't start until you've heard the first verse twice!
It reminds me of John Bonham's drum fill in Stairway to Heaven. It's not anywhere near as cool, but the song is very mellow at the start and after 4 or 5 minutes you finally get John Bonham's drum fill and John Paul Jones comes in with bass to fill out the sound.
I worked for Virgin at that time and was there staying at the Townhouse studios when this actually happened. I came back at around midnight from a remote recording gig I had been on and my colleage Chris was running around reception with this cassette, saying I absolutely had to listen to it. It was a copy of this very session from that evening. I listened to it and was bowled over. I said to Chris that this changes everything. That newfangled SSL console in Studio 2 is now going to become famous and fly off the shelves as fast as they can make them, not least of all because it has noise gates on all channels. Those gates were intended to cut tape noise during silent parts of tracks. But Hugh had turned them into artistic tools :-) When I finally left Virgin I went to workd for SSL as a designer and Chris also ended up working for SSL too.. Those were heady years for music for sure :-)
Of course the Town House “Stone Room” was instrumental in this sound, and a super compressed room/ talkback mic. I was heard they thought to gate it and accidentally super compressed it and when bringing it up there was that sound. I built my own stone room for my place.
@@daviddonald9738 You are right that the untreated recording space was implemental in this sound. But actually there was no deliberate 'stone room' when this first happened. It was recorded in Townhouse Studio 2 which was being refurbished with an SSL console and there was no sound treatment in the unfinished room at that time. The studio refurbishment had been on hold for some time, due to lengthy squabbles about the choice of the 'newfangled and unconventional' SSL console, which had actually been deliberately damaged by one manager - who eventually holed up in a local hotel and refused to come out for weeks in protest! It was a sad farce against technical progress that rolled on for weeks. It was only after the recording of this track and it's obvious success that people got off their high horses and the refurbishment was restarted. I could write a book about my time at Virgin and the emotional wrangles which often went on in the industry at that time.
My introduction to Genesis was their Three Sides Live album. I was stationed on a ship in the Navy and must have listened to that album hundreds of times. Simply FANTASTIC!
We once were in an Irish pub in Frankfurt Germany and there was live music playing. and they did In The Air Tonight and they came to That Fill and everyone was just listening in awe or drinking beer. The lead stopped the band and explained that he had interrupted the song, as there was a law in Ireland that made it mandatory to bang anything you can find to play with The Fill. So they restarted a few notes before The Fill and the whole pub went BA`BA BA`BA BA`BA BA`BA BANG! Great! I've been doing it ever since, regardless of place or setting ^^
I worked for Modern Drummer magazine for over a decade, have worked to get thousands of drum sounds as a touring drum technician and rarely think a modernized cover of an iconic song sounds legit, but you guys actually nailed this as a cover. The drum idea is legit and the way you kept the airy space feeling totally works. Thanks for trying and actually succeeding at it.
"In the Air Tonight" is GenX. In the college dining hall, it would play on the juke box and everyone would stop talking and eating and mime the drum fill. Seeing hundreds of people do that at the same time was hilarious and unifying. Now that we're all older adults, we still still stop and do the drum fill. In public.
Even when driving! Take the wheel with the knees and air drum with both hands high for all to see! Every time, even speeding on a crowded turnpike. :-D
I got to see them live a time or two as well, and I've never had an interest in a band like them before, knowing the members' names. I can't recall whether I was a fan before or after I heard that track used on Miami Vice, which made it sinister and cool. It's still my favorite music decades later. I love the lyrics that tell a story, and use complicated lyrics to do so. I've never heard a band do it since to that degree. Thank you for covering this! Driving the last spike is another favorite of mine, with the lyrics bringing you in to the tragedy of work on the railroads and mines. "They'll never see the likes of us AGAAAAAAAAAAIN!"
Me as well. Saw them in the UK four or five times at least. Best one ever was 1982 Milton Keynes with Gabriel back for the one show as the lead singer, then the encore with Steve Hackett..
Old dude here. I absolutely loved Phil's work for the first few albums. in the Air Tonight still reminds me of Miami Vice today. I remember being in college and driving to school. The DJ introduced In the Air Tonight and started playing it. Right before the drum fill, he paused the song, broke in, and said, "okay, everyone, get your air drums ready!"
Phil was SO popular in the 80s. ALWAYS on the charts. He had 18 Top 40 hits in the 1980's alone, and would go on to have 27 such hits on the Billboard Hot 100. To the point where: when some humor group released a parody of USA Today newspaper, they listed hit tracks, and one of them was "You'll Never Get Rid of Me" by Phil Collins. ROFL.
Sophomore in high school (85), 100mph, 11pm, minimal freeway lights, windows wide open....In The Air Tonight on full blast. That what I remember most when I think of this song. That moment is burned into my souI. It is still one of the greatest ever.
Great work! I was born in 1963 and there was huge richness in the world with music in my childhood, too many bands to mention but several stuck with me to this day, Rolling Stones, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, Yes, Rush, and of course, Genesis. My favourite will vary with my mood, you’ll often find Pink Floyd playing too. Your work suggests you respect their work greatly, very flattering to be the source of covers and you do great work! Genesis music certainly evolved but I’ll listen to anything from Trespass to Calling All Stations (preferably live versions). Out of my 64 concerts, 6 were Genesis and 3 were Phil Collins/Phil Collins big band. What an entertainer! Thanks, keep up the great work!
I started my love affair with Genesis in 1970 with the release of Trespass, I was 10 years old, and went on a journey listening to Trespass. "Prog Rock" at it's best. I am 64 years old now, an ex-drummer and still escape to the world of Genesis. It has been the only constant in my otherwise life of constant changes. From 1969 - 1978 (And Then There Were Three) Were (For Me) the best years for Genesis, for the "Prog Rock" era. I did purchase "Duke" (1980) and "Abacab" (1981) though really good albums, for me, they didn't have the means to take you on a journey as the albums of old. For me, just my humble opinion, Phil is a world class Drummer, he's up there with the greats in my opinion. Their best album, for me, is and will ever remain "The Lamb Lies Down on Broardway" (1974) Just put your headphones on, turn the volume up and lose yourself in an emotional rollercoaster, in another world.
+1 for your 'life of constant changes'! (though very few eyes can see). Totally agree with 69-78 and a climax with TLLDOB. I'm 55, and at about 30 I turned to jazz and fusion. IMO, you cannot compare Phil with drummers like Gadd or Erskine, but who cares? I will listen to pre-80 Genesis until I am 100, and continue to be filled with the emotional rollercoaster, as you say.
What I love the most about Phil Collin’s is that he is the GOAT of rock but yet humble enough to pass right beside you as a random dude. Also please mention next time who record all instruments in the song. That makes In the air tonight even a bigger song.
Good comment and Phil did actually walk past me and a friend of mine once. We were waiting in the queue at the kebab shop in Turnham Green near where Phil's mum used to live and he walked past us and into the restaurant. I had a Genesis T-shirt on and he looked back and said "good band that, the Drummer has a solo album coming out soon." He smiled and we laughed and said we would go buy it.. I still have that copy of Face Value and play it most weeks.
I was raised in the 70's and 80's and never knew this about Phil's famous song. Now I understand why I've never been able to reproduce that sound on a regular synth or drum machine!
It was also the "stone room" at Townhouse studio 2 that was important in the drum sound. I worked with a band in the early 90's and spent a week there and the stone room had an amazing vibe and sound to it and was quite unique.
The algorithms have been dropping this on me for weeks. "Phil Collins" - nope, not going to click. Not for lack of respect, but more for years of oversaturation. Now here I am loving the unexpected journey and outcome of this video. Oh, and subscribing over there. All I can say is "damn that was courageous and lovely".
I only knew the hit songs from the Phil Collins era of Genesis. I never thought much of Phil Collins as a drummer until I dove into the Peter Gabriel era of Genesis about 15 years ago. My mind was blown. I love Phill Collin's sound and listening to him play. Very nice breakdown and cover of the song. I enjoyed this video.
I first heard and saw Genesis in 1978 at a concert in Saarbrucken, Germany. I've been hooked ever since. A very unique and wonderful sound indeed. Thanks for the memories.
What a great video! Glad this came across my feed! I'm 50 and my intro into Genesis was their 1983 self-titled album featuring "That's All" which I believe was one of their first really big radio hits. Later, in 1986, my friend made a cassette copy (yes Gen Zers, that's a real thing) of Invisible Touch. I was blown away by the sound volume of "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight," "Domino" and "The Brazilian." Always thought they were a pop band, but in 1989 I started working at a restaurant and the chef there turned me onto "classic" Genesis with Nursery Cryme, LLDOB, and their live album Seconds Out. It opened up an entirely new level of appreciation of not just Phil Collin's talent, but Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford. In 1992 I went to see Genesis live in Chicago for their "We Can't Dance" tour. Was an absolute phenomenal show. They opened up with "Mama." In 1995 (I now lived in D.C) I saw Phil on his "Both Sides" tour. The concert would culminate with Phil and Chester doing a drum solo/duet that would lead into "In the Air Tonight." In the arena, you could feel every drum hit in your chest. While Phil was a lovable pop star with ballads like "Groovy Kind of Love," you'd have to see him perform live to realize how hard he could rock out. So many good memories of his (and Genesis') music. I feel fortunate I was able to see Phil multiple times while he was healthy enough to perform. When giving an example of incredible drum playing of all time, I always point to Seconds Out's live version of "Dance on Volcano" leading into "Los Endos." It will melt your face off! For what it's worth, you now have a new sub for life!
As someone coming up on 60, it's so heartening to see people discover my all-time favorite band. I fell in love with Genesis back in 1978 or so... (along with Rush, whose drummer, Neal Peart, with all respect for Phil Collins, is just that much better!) That said, having been to numerous Genesis and Phil Collins concerts through the '80's, '90's, and 00"s, it's wonderful to go on journey's like this one. To relive all the music over and over is fantastic and to see new listeners experience it for the first time! For those of you listening for the first time there are a number of other Genesis, Peter Gabriel, and Phil Collins albums and hundreds of hours of fantastic music not covered in this video... Go and explore and enjoy!
Phil had mentioned that the fill itself was lifted from Frank Zappa. Chester was playing with Frank at the time. They recorded some live material for Roxy and Elsewhere. One song was Trouble Coming Every Day. Zappa had two drummers, Chester and Ralph Humphries. There was this blistering double drum fill with monster toms descending in pitch. Chester told Phil, Phil heard it, and "borrowed" it.
True story but Ralph didn't play with Zappa much Chester was his main drummer in those years as I remember it anyway (shruggs). He pulled in Bozzio and Wackerman right after Chester left! (as I remember it anyway) Best regards!
As you said : 1974 - Chester Thomson with the same drum intro. Like the world mega hit intro from Phil. On Zappa: Roxy & Elsewhere "More Trouble Every Day" 1977 - Chester plays with Phil Collins 1981 - Phil Collins : In the Air tonight. Any Questions ? "Where did Collins say that?" Look the Video "Phil Collins : On Chester Thomson - Drumming for Genesis !" from John Edginton Documentaries. At the beginning, about 40 seconds, Collins speaks about Zappa live and the drums. He mentioned the sound of the two drummers. Not the later common intro..My feeling is, Mister Collins thinks, he makes something new of the double-intro. He heard something, a foundation, and creats something really good. For himself ! And Chester, is the Gentleman. If nobody cries, its no problem. Dada-dada-dada-dada-da-da !
US Postal Service - "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds." UPS - "Nor a Phil Collins interview."
I've been playing the drums for over 25 years, and I finally bought an electric kit a few years ago just to be able to practice at night when I can't be loud. I bought a Alesis Strike Pro Se, and one of the preprogrammed kits on it is named "Tonight's Air", basically meant to mimic the sound of the drums from that song. They get pretty close, they sound pretty good.
Being in my earlier 20’s at this time, no matter what I was doing I always had to pretend to do that drum beat from In the Air Tonight, including driving. I remember coming home from work one day at a stop light and there it was on a local radio station, so I did my thing. Toward the end of the beat my head shifted right, there is another guy doing the same. 😅 I guess it’s called being old, but I will always miss the real band music of the ‘70s and ‘80s. Thanks Phil, love you man!
There are, thankfully, several up and coming bands, not like Genesis et al but at least showing promise. Chief among them right now imo, is a Mexican band called The Warning. They are all over youtube, go have a look, you may be surprised. Although my wife complains that their chord progressions are juvenile, lol.
The music is still there, it's just way harder to find them due to the massive overload of nonsense you hear all the time in radio/charts/whatsoever. The Warning (like Skraeling mentioned), The Hu from Mongolia, Alex Henry Foster from Canada, Amarok and Riverside from Poland, Tuber from Greece (Desert overcrowded is just awesome) ...
Waited for you to play Intruder, Peter's song and first song to use gated drums, and mention Steve Hackett, who still tours today and plays original Genesis live, but alas.
As an old sound engineer I've always loved the sound of Phil's drums - the gated verb is something I used for a long time. I've stepped away from engineering for many years and am getting back into it. I really like this video and would love to have you go through your recording setup.
I have a good Genesis story. I watched Mtv from day one but never really knew the history of any of the white acts. I was riding somewhere with a manager I worked for and I want to say we were listening to a Peter Gabriel song on the radio. I told my manager that Peter Gabriel would be great as a lead singer for Genesis and he started laughing. I asked him why are you laughing and that's when he told me Peter Gabriel used to be the lead singer for Genesis. That blew my mind but also made me realize I had a good ear for music.
Chester joining Phil in The Brazilian is probably the most incredible and enlivening song I have ever heard... especially the Liva at Wembley version where Chester and Phil have a drum off.. and neither came off the winner.. they BOTH WON!!!
A Trick of the Tail might be the best album of their entire discography; I think that's because they were at the peak of both creativity and technique, and thou Gabriel had just quit, the album is full of his influences.
As a drummer the engineering and drum SOUND of Phil Collins was UNMISTAKABLE when heard on air. It is a rare thing to hear drums on another artist's track and say, "THAT is Phil Collins." Well done for Phil and well done to his recording engineer.
My first Genesis memory is The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, sometime in the early 80s via my cousin who is much older than me. Didn’t know anything about the band but i liked what i heard, then i heard Follow you Follow me and i’ve been hooked ever since to both, the band and Phil alone. One of my favorite bands of all time.
Let me tell you two things: you’re a great communicator and musician. 2- your story telling is impeccable and almost addictive. Keep it up and thank you for your hard work and passion.
First four albums were very different from So. That's probably the main reason. So is mostly (deliberately) very poppy, unlike aforementioned four before it.
Just shows how specific Gabriel is. He's right about cymbals in general though... they are grossly over used and rarely add any thing. Copeland is the best drummer out there in my opinion. He sounds so different to anyone else.
@@johannwolf1 Man, Peter Gabriel must've really hated Alex Van Halen, especially around the 5150 era. That guy wanted a crash and a hi-hat on every beat.
@@IggyWhite Bigtime and sledghammer were huge dance hits at the time (at least in Paris) ... but the rest of the album is so well written and you can hear him establish the sound pallet he still uses to this day. I think So is a real milestone and sonic evolution that he's continued to build upon, US continues the theme. All the preceding albums were more hit and miss. I'm partial to what he did with Passion as well. I'll never forget hearing it the first time - I was photographing Rosanna Arquette (his GF at the time) and she brought a pre release (on cassette I think) of it to the studio. We listed to it at least 5 times all that day. I was floored.
I love seeing Don Moen in this video - two of my songs got released on the label he was on. I eventually got Chester to tell me how he almost got Abe Laboriel Sr. to play with Zappa when Tom Fowler broke his arm. Abe was home taking care of Paul McCartney's future drummer (Abe Jr.) and couldn't do the gig.
Thank you. RUclips's algorithm rewards 20 minute videos RUclips can cram in more advertisements), so this 7-minute explanation gets turned into an interminable dull overlong video.
In the early 2000s, I worked with a guy named Gino that was really into progressive rock like Yes, Camel, Gentle Giant ( I would tease him and intentionally misname them Giant Genital) BMS, PFM, King Crimson, early Genesis, etc. With a raised eyebrow, he would literally make that exact same face you're doing here 4:35, all while either air drumming or pointing at the speaker when a certain part would come on, as if instructing me in the way of prog-rockism. You prog rock guys are the good guys.
I was 14 years old when I bought the album "A Trick of the Tail" and fell in love. It was the first album where Phil had taken over singing from Peter Gabriel and it was the best album I had ever heard. I've followed his career ever since and it's been an amazing ride.
I had just turned 15 😂. In Cardiff, South Wales. It was my first Genesis album. My 17-year old boyfriend had been a Gabriel-Genesis fan and wasn’t convinced Phil Collins could handle the job. It took one listen to convince him.
@@DimitriFantini Nice cover but when the Taiko plays I would not be able to tell it's a Taiko. It sounds like it has a snare layered with it. Why is this?
This is very cool. But I’m a bit confused that - when talking about Peter Gabriel’s departure, you covered up Steve Hackett with a question mark in that photo rather than Peter.
😂 definitely an editing oversight! To be honest, even though I've been a Peter Gabriel fan my entire life, I'm used to seeing him without hair, 2000s and on ... so I'm glad you caught my mistake!
You both, singer and drummer (and the rest of the band and crew), have done justice to this song, to Genesis, to Phil Collins and made it your own without taking away from the original feel. Bravo.
You have such a great personality for making any videos. But with deeeeep research and this amazingly assembled content .... so impressive. World class.
I watched this purely out of curiosity, and I am so glad I did. Ty for sharing your insight into one of my most favorite teenage sanity saving musical go-to. I drove my grandparents nuts listening to Genisis and Phil Collins on repeat out in their 5 acre yard at the loudest volume with my Boombox, I know it was distorted by that but since I had always been able to listen with my stepdads headphones previously (he was a major audiophile) I was just transported to a better place in my head. As your singer stated I was given Space.. she actually brought tears to my eyes when she said that. Mistake or not Phil and the whole sound influenced by him and all the collaborative talents around this musical journey is undeniably important to so many of us and I'm so glad you brought that magic back to me by randomly seeing and watching your video.
Awesome. I feel very familiar with the history of this tune, but you explained it all in such a way that made it easier to understand. And your cover of it is outstanding. Great job. 🎉
I can totally sympathize with you on "having no career"... however, you're still young, and the urge to have a career may be a pressure coming from the enemy's corner. You _do_ have a career. Your NoRadio band is excellent and mature, with a full ripe sound, you made a cover that equaled the original in sophistication. Even without all those, this video shows that you are completely immersed in that artistic world. What more would you ask from life? It's enough for a lifelong fulfillment, and so many years are still in front of you, Dimitri. I enjoyed this video thoroughly, and of course got to see your In The Air Tonight cover right away. Superb! Phil should be proud of you.
I’ve been following Genesis since I was 12 years old. There progressive classic rock sound was unique. I saw them live 4 times with and without Peter Gabriel. Phil Collins brilliantly took over lead vocalist. Still listen to them daily.
THERE = a location over yonder THEY'RE = a contraction of the phrase "they are" THEIR - belonging to them *THEY'RE* playing *THEIR* instruments over *THERE* What is it that makes something so simple as this into such an intellectual challenge to grasp?
The song was a massive hit because Phil Collins is one of the best of all time, its more than just drum fills, the guy understands music and how it connects to the soul which is why its powerful. You guys did a nice job, I enjoyed listening, thanks.
I heard In the Air Tonight before I started listening to Genisis. So there was a lot of backtracking on my part to catch up. But then I watch your video - very fascinating, but the last 2 minutes really set me on fire - from the inspriation you got. I prefer hearing your version, now.
Love it, love it! I am 69 years young and owned (past tense, I was so stupid to get rid of my 3000+ vinyls!!) virtually every Genesis album. Fav was "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway". Loved learning the background behind this 'accident', then went and listened to your version and you not only did the song - and Phil - justice, but put your own signature on it. So important to a cover. Sent chills down my spine. Great job and I look forward to listening to more of your stuff.
I have followed Genesis since Trick of the tail. which is still my favorite genesis song. My 25 year old son hates rock but loves genesis. Phil is an absolute genius. Thanks for your input
Very well done! Lifelong PC/G fan so I did not expect to learn much new, but you shared a lot of clips I haven't seen before and i learned more than I anticipated! (Most of my fandom pre-dates the modern internet, so my learnings were from books and text interviews back in the 90s, along with official band releases). I love your rendition of ItAT. I'll be checking out your band along with the rest of your videos. Thank you!
Aw Mark thank you so much for the kind words!! Your message really means a lot. So glad to have you here!! (ps - we have an original single releasing in a week and a half that I think you’ll like!)
Dude, you have done a phenomenal tribute to my all-time favorite artist of all times in this genre. Thank you for sharing his life that touched everyone.
The accident doesn’t matter. Phil Collins showed vastly more talent in the YEARS before his solo album playing with Genesis and Brand X. His solo work would have been amazing anyway.
Fun fact…my first concert was Eric Clapton ….with Phil on drums that tour - SO AMAZING! Front row too! (and I’d been a HUGE HUGE Genesis fan since I was seven years old…yeah, I was a weird kid) 🤷🏻♀️ the, fast forward and I saw Phil with Chester on drums in concert a few years later…. THEN…YOU , Dimitri, were MY drum teacher for a short moment in time….remember that? (Thanks to Lauren Ruth Ward) I remember when we chatted before I decided to try virtual drum lessons with you…you told me about your connection to Chester thru YOUR drum teacher and I was like “TAKE MY MONEY” …..and in case you’re wondering…YES! I’m STILL playing the drums! 😊 Hope you’re well! Angi
I saw Phil on drums for Robert Plant's Principle of Moments Tour in Vancouver,1983. The encore was a take-off of the psychedelic part of Whole Lotta Love, with Plant yelling, "push it!, push it!", and Phil had black sunglasses and a wig. 😎
@@onomatopoeidia he opened with In the Mood. Everything fogged up, light from behind so Plant was silhouetted, arms stretched sideways, rorating his hands like some Egyptian dance. It was pretty wild. And Robbie Blunt on guitar was freaking amazing.
Remember that Phil took his music (And others too.) very seriously. He never took himself that seriously, or got his head too big for his boots. Great, talented guy.
@@sigma80 Well that’s not entirely true, he used to go around complaining that he wasn’t taken seriously as an actor and that Bob Hoskins was taking all his roles, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a serious musician. I’m betting that he had never become the “housewives’ favourite he became in the 80’s. I’m sure it was fun re-recording “Groovy Kind of Love”, “You Can’t Hurry Love” and the like, but no one was going to take him as seriously as they did Peter Gabriel while he was doing that shite.
I was introduced to Genesis by a friend of mine. I was at his house and Duke was one of the albums he played. He had just bought the album too. I loved their sound and I also loved how the drum track kept playing from one song to the next. Almost every song on that album was played on the radio at some point.
I remember going to a music festival in 1996 which was $10 for 11 bands. .38 Special, Cheap Trick, The Jason Bonham Band, Joe Bonamassa, The Nixons and Sun Volt are the bands I can remember.
Your deep delve into the In The Air Tonight/Phil Collins mistake was genius. And thanks to stumbling across that, I now get to experience inspired music by No Radio. Your wisdom and talent has inspired me to buy my first Super Thanks. So... Thanks! 🤩
I really wish you would have spent a little more time on the song “intruder”. It was the very first song that used gated reverb on that Peter Gabriel album. It would’ve been nice to hear a snippet of that just for context.
Algorithm brought me here, but I went straight to your NoRadio channel to listen to your cover and that is top notch! Well done! Just tried to leave a comment on the NoRadio video only to discover comments are turned off…wonder it that is part of why it unbelievably only has 751 views after a year….that cover needs to blow up…it’s VERY GOOD
My 2nd cousin Peter Ford taught Genesis music at Charter House public school. He said the original drummer was persuaded by his parents to become an accountant. How must this guy feel now?!?!
This was awesome. As a person who has been a Genesis fan for decades, I appreciate you digging DEEEEEP into Genesis lore, including the Gabriel years. And, yeah, you did "the drum fill" justice.
Phil Collins IS a musical genius. One of the greatest songwriters of all time, and the MOST successful musical artist of the 1980s. Phil dominated the 80s, like The Beatles dominated the 60s, he was THAT ubiquitous.
Yes, I would say the Beatles ruled the 60s, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd ruled the 70's, and Phil Collins/Genesis ruled the 80's. I saw him at Live Aid and his Invisible touch tour. There was a rolling Stone article that called him the Ubiquitous Phil Collins. I thought it was genius how he could be a solo artist without breaking up his band, and even have Rutherford have HIS own band, the mechanics. His music was in Miami Vice and beer commercials. Awesome times.
@user-cn8wu2ok5s Well, yes....of course. We all got that this microphone was tripped in the wrong time. The QUESTION is what did that DO????? Did it turn a double into a triple? Was it added reverb later that made the "mistake" pop? I get it. Didn't go open that rabbit hole at all....
@@federalreservewolflegend3523 it greatly enhanced the depth and sound of the snare but the gate cut it off so it gives a short but very rich sound. that was later redone by several artists...
Thought the same - mic was on? How was this a mistake? I am not a music tech, so yeah, I love the song - especially the original. I like cover versions but nowadays all somgs I hear are covers… but yeah I‘m old
Dimitri, my congrats to you on making this video. Superbly documented, very well edited, truly good. A breeze to watch as it’s so interesting. As a true Phil Collins fan, a gem. Phil’s genius and artistry spans way beyond his drum talent. As a singer and multi instrumentalist as well. A big, big fan of his work from a young age and really grew on to appreciate him that much more as I’m a fellow musician myself. And congrats too on your project NoRadio. Cheers.
This is an extraordinarily well made video! Of course, as a massive Genesis/Collins fan, there's nothing here I didn't already know. But this was highly entertaining, nonetheless. Here's an important piece of advice: If you want to properly dive into the Genesis back catalogue, it is IMPERATIVE to try to track down the 1994 Definitive Edition Remasters. What you are listening to in this video are the EXECRABLE 2007 remixes. These are the worst thing to ever happen to Genesis' glorious body of work. All you get from the 2007 abominations is a sterilized and defanged version of the music, especially as you move beyond the Gabriel-era records, and ESPECIALLY as regards the magnificent Rutherford/Collins rhythm section. If you want to experience the full power and majesty of Genesis--and I really, REALLY want you and all newcomers to classic Genesis to experience it--you've got to hear the '94 Remasters, or at the very least, ANYTHING other than the '07 garbage. End of rant.
As a 60 years-old Genesis fan I'm delighted to see that younger generation is aware of the subtleties and the magic of their music. I 'll never forget the drum duets with Chester when I first saw them in 1981
Charismatic voice (the youtube channel) did a video on in the air tonight. That's worth a look as well because she talked about his singing. Playing the drums AND singing is fantastic. Doing it exceptionally well is genius.
In all honesty I am a trained singer, guitarist and drummer and I never understood the problems people would talk about regarding singing and playing this song on Drums... I have no issue at all with that, some things you do some you dont. However it was not until 2020 when I was choosing a few covers to play on a limited run tour in my band The Vegetarian Vampires where I was mostly playing acoustic guitar and performing lead vocals. I find playing the accompanyment on guitar, as simple as the chord chart is is very difficult and relatively easy to lose it for a crotchet or more if you're not completely mindful of what you are playing as rhythm guitar parts down to an exaggerated tea. I never lost it on stage during that tour but I spent quite a while deciding exactly what I would play and where I would change parts and arrangements. Give it a shot, it's just dm C Bb C and then it shifts the rate of the chord changes. It is quite difficult to play because of that sneaky digital drum part and the way that plays completely against the rhythm of the vocal part. Look at a chart of the vocals, it is all over the place in phrasing. See if you find the same thing. Almost as hard to play and sing as The Afternooons Hat by The Arctic Monkeys where Alex strums 1a 2 3a4 and changes chords whilst singing a very strong but rhythmically different vocal part. He's essentially playing 3 against four. It's a tricky one and probably the best B side in history.
What makes that drum fill truly iconic is not that one bar of toms, but what Collins plays on the 1 and 2 of the following bar; that's what does it. If he'd only done the toms, it would have been fine, but the extension halfway into the next bar is what seals it, making it roll into what follows.
Brilliant. As a long-time Genesis fan who morphed into a Phil Collins fan, thank you. Your discussion of early Genesis and Phil's history with the accident that became 'In The Air Tonight' reveals the genius that I feel Mr. Collin truly is. Phil's unique approach and drum sound, coupled with a one-of-a-kind voice, are so well presented we really get a warm view of the man without it being too 'fan-boyish'. It is factually interesting, well-paced, and entertaining. What more can we ask? I now need to see more of your work. Oh, and the cover is pretty fire, too.
Thank you so much for your kind words!! As a drummer I didn’t realize just how badass Phil’s early Genesis work was. My reactions to those tunes were unplanned and genuine! And for months now, after filming, I keep going back and listening to these records as a new fan myself :)
And by the way, as far as NoRadio’s music… there are some very special original tunes releasing next! Please make sure to say hi over on our channel and IG! ❤️
Beautifully stated!!
@@DimitriFantini Every time I go back and listen, I am again amazed. These guys were so well-balanced. All equal in creativity and ability. But Phil brought an energy that boosted the entire ensemble. He made everyone better. Subtle, bold, nuanced, bombastic.....whatever it took he seemed to find it. Huge respect. Plus, he can sing a bit.
Agreed especially selling England by the pound
Yeah, I was 14 years old when I bought the album "A Trick of the Tail" and fell in love. It was the first album where Phil had taken over singing from Peter Gabriel and it was the best album I had ever heard.
This is just ace. Phil Collins has been such an influence on my playing, he doesn’t get anywhere near the accolades he should. I went to a gig last year and it was hard to see him as he is now. Thankyou for doing this.
I'm so glad you liked it Peter, thank you so much!
I could not bring myself to go. I prefer to see Phil as he was, not as he is. More power to him. He has given us SO much.
his son is a hell of a drummer actually. I saw Phil live in Munich a couple years ago and I was astonished.
In Germany Phil is The drummer hero (and much more)
Great video, really entertaining. I'm a Phil fan and still think that Squonk is probably THE deepest drum groove I've ever heard. Phil's time and sound are legendary. He got some backlash through the years as people got a little tired but he wrote, produced, played and toured relentlessly. Totally deserves credit.
I totally agree about Squonk!! That song really knocked me out. The groove, the pocket, the whole vibe of the song is badass
One part of Phil's history you completely missed is Brand X (and as a drummer you should know). Brand X were basically Phil's side fusion band that toured and recorded simultaneously from the mid 70s to early 80s as he was in Genesis. Some of Phil's best drumming were on those records.
You’re absolutely right about Brand X! Too much to cover in one video… in fact a close friend of mine tours with them and had asked me to sub for him… then Covid happened and everything changed! I would have definitely put that in this video if it had happened haha
Perhaps when the dust clears, you can find time to feature Collins in Brand X and highlight the fusion style he snuck into Genesis. Perhaps even showing the full arc of his drumming. Everyone knows Phil's voice, but too few fully appreciate the musicality (and nuance) of his drums.
That's 👍 right
BrandX wasn’t some of PCs best drumming, it was his best drumming. The style of course provided a better platform.
Nuclear Burn, a level-set for drums. He played great drums on a lot of other interesting albums.
Let's just start calling it a Drum Phil.
I see what you did there. I love it and endorse the message.
Haha. Clever😂
@firstmusic0021 in 1981 I was banging my head to this new band called Metallica... didn't really care too much about Phil Collins at the time. So yeah, "Drum Phil" is new to me. Maybe now I can be as cool as you.
@@firstmusic0021 😁 game on 💪
BA DUM TSSS
I saw Genesis live in Auckland in 1987, and there was a drum 'battle' between Chester Thompson and Phil Collins that went for almost 10 minutes, and it was EPIC!!
Identical pearl drum sets, one left hand small out front, one set right hand with a grand man, those two mirroring each other’s movements in perfect harmony filling the Civic Arena, WOW
@ericmccarty9656 just looked it up. That's just 2400 people capacity. Cool. I saw Offspring with only 4000 crowd, just after Smash. I saw Violent Femmes with 800 people crowd in the 80's (my sister gave me free tickets as venue was her client). Was a great great night, they were excellent, every note, same as album with live action. Naked crowd almost. 100% high and drunk in Byron. Drove back to Ballina and Lismore after it.
I saw them twice in the Eighties at The Capital Center. Those drum battles are seared in my mind.
@@ericmccarty9656 Yeah the lefty vs righty kits had a really cool visual appeal on stage, it looked like there was a 1 kit mirrored but they were both playing.
I recorded a video tape off TV in the early 90's which I was sure was a Phil versus Chester on stage but with body drum pads, and I recollect it was "We wait and we wonder" with a real military feel, but not sure Chester ever performed in PC solo tours, so could be my hazy memory... I also cannot find any references on t'interwebs
Phil was as great live as he was in the stu stu studio
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Ba dum tiss...
Cheers! That was. Brilliant!
Every time I hear su-su-sudio (or however it's spelled) I can't help but remember the David Letterman joke about "su-su-suit of suet".
Note: I am old.
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Anyone who is a fan of Genesis and Phil Collins should absolutely read Collins' memoir, "Not Dead Yet'. In fact, I would recommend you get the audiobook to hear it in Phil's own voice. As a life-long Genesis and Collins fan who thought he knew every there was to know about the band, I highly recommend it.
I totally forgot I had that book. Thanks for the reminder!
I've read it, very good, but sad parts about his bout with severe alcohol addiction, glad he's doing better.
It's not just the drumfill itself. It the tension build before it, the drumfill itself as a surprise (more like a shock) and the anger discharge that follows until the very last drum beat.
1000%
I love the build up of tension in the song and when the drum fill hits it’s truly perfect. The thing is, I’ve always felt the rest of the song didn’t live up to that incredible buildup. The drum fill IS the climax of the song. I always felt like it needed a heavier ending or something, or a tasteful lead melody that soars on guitar or keys. But it just kind of continues on to the end.
@@amostlyreasonableguyExactly!
Exactly... he's telling you about what happened, he's breaking down, then he loses his $h!t completely and starts raging.
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9:14 Peter Gabriel is sitting to the left. The person in front is actually 🎸 Steve Hackett, who stayed until 1977.
Ha, I came here to say exactly that!
Yes we messed up in editing! Sorry Steve!
Peter looks like Liza Minelli with that haircut and makeup.
@@specialbeat Same here. He's the front man in the picture, but not the actual front man. Gabriel is the left man in the picture. 😊
until banks forced him out too....
It's not just the drum fill. It's the total buildup to the drum fill. The song makes you want it, desire it, demand it through the beginning. You expect the drum fill. And when it comes, it is very impactful.
It's like the song Hey Jude where the audience is waiting waiting for the Na Na Na Na Na Na Na's! The Drum break doesn't hit until the end of the last verse - when I sing Hey Jude remeber the Na Na's don't start until you've heard the first verse twice!
now go make a shitty 25 minutes video to explain this
It reminds me of John Bonham's drum fill in Stairway to Heaven. It's not anywhere near as cool, but the song is very mellow at the start and after 4 or 5 minutes you finally get John Bonham's drum fill and John Paul Jones comes in with bass to fill out the sound.
I worked for Virgin at that time and was there staying at the Townhouse studios when this actually happened. I came back at around midnight from a remote recording gig I had been on and my colleage Chris was running around reception with this cassette, saying I absolutely had to listen to it. It was a copy of this very session from that evening. I listened to it and was bowled over. I said to Chris that this changes everything. That newfangled SSL console in Studio 2 is now going to become famous and fly off the shelves as fast as they can make them, not least of all because it has noise gates on all channels. Those gates were intended to cut tape noise during silent parts of tracks. But Hugh had turned them into artistic tools :-) When I finally left Virgin I went to workd for SSL as a designer and Chris also ended up working for SSL too.. Those were heady years for music for sure :-)
Thanks for sharing this fascinating piece of music history 💥
Wow! What a trip that you were THERE! So cool thanks for sharing!
Of course the Town House “Stone Room” was instrumental in this sound, and a super compressed room/ talkback mic.
I was heard they thought to gate it and accidentally super compressed it and when bringing it up there was that sound.
I built my own stone room for my place.
@@daviddonald9738 You are right that the untreated recording space was implemental in this sound. But actually there was no deliberate 'stone room' when this first happened. It was recorded in Townhouse Studio 2 which was being refurbished with an SSL console and there was no sound treatment in the unfinished room at that time.
The studio refurbishment had been on hold for some time, due to lengthy squabbles about the choice of the 'newfangled and unconventional' SSL console, which had actually been deliberately damaged by one manager - who eventually holed up in a local hotel and refused to come out for weeks in protest!
It was a sad farce against technical progress that rolled on for weeks. It was only after the recording of this track and it's obvious success that people got off their high horses and the refurbishment was restarted. I could write a book about my time at Virgin and the emotional wrangles which often went on in the industry at that time.
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Good back story.
I used a lot of Philip Newell concepts building my non-environmental studio.
My introduction to Genesis was their Three Sides Live album. I was stationed on a ship in the Navy and must have listened to that album hundreds of times. Simply FANTASTIC!
My first Genesis purchase too, it’s a brilliant album and an ideal greatest hits for its time..🙋🏼♂️
I played that vinyl album over and over very loud...brilliant stuff
We once were in an Irish pub in Frankfurt Germany and there was live music playing. and they did In The Air Tonight and they came to That Fill and everyone was just listening in awe or drinking beer. The lead stopped the band and explained that he had interrupted the song, as there was a law in Ireland that made it mandatory to bang anything you can find to play with The Fill. So they restarted a few notes before The Fill and the whole pub went BA`BA BA`BA BA`BA BA`BA BANG! Great!
I've been doing it ever since, regardless of place or setting ^^
If so, they were all wrong! It's BA`BA, BA`BA, BA`BA, BA`BA, BA`BA.
I worked for Modern Drummer magazine for over a decade, have worked to get thousands of drum sounds as a touring drum technician and rarely think a modernized cover of an iconic song sounds legit, but you guys actually nailed this as a cover. The drum idea is legit and the way you kept the airy space feeling totally works. Thanks for trying and actually succeeding at it.
thanks Chad really really appreciate that!!!
Ringo is a very basic drummer and compared to Phil a beginner.
"In the Air Tonight" is GenX. In the college dining hall, it would play on the juke box and everyone would stop talking and eating and mime the drum fill. Seeing hundreds of people do that at the same time was hilarious and unifying.
Now that we're all older adults, we still still stop and do the drum fill. In public.
@@bassaniobrokenhart5045 Generation X, born between Baby Boomers and Millennials. Grew up in the 70's and 80's.
Every damn time! Don’t care where I am at!
EVERY time!
Generation X... Billy Idol was the singer for Generation X
"... we still still stop and do the drum fill." we?
No "we" ruddy well don't.
Even when driving! Take the wheel with the knees and air drum with both hands high for all to see! Every time, even speeding on a crowded turnpike. :-D
Phil and Chester live was incredible. I got to see them quite a few times together with Phil solo and Genesis. Fond memories.
I got to see them live a time or two as well, and I've never had an interest in a band like them before, knowing the members' names. I can't recall whether I was a fan before or after I heard that track used on Miami Vice, which made it sinister and cool. It's still my favorite music decades later. I love the lyrics that tell a story, and use complicated lyrics to do so. I've never heard a band do it since to that degree. Thank you for covering this! Driving the last spike is another favorite of mine, with the lyrics bringing you in to the tragedy of work on the railroads and mines. "They'll never see the likes of us AGAAAAAAAAAAIN!"
Me as well. Saw them in the UK four or five times at least. Best one ever was 1982 Milton Keynes with Gabriel back for the one show as the lead singer, then the encore with Steve Hackett..
Old dude here. I absolutely loved Phil's work for the first few albums. in the Air Tonight still reminds me of Miami Vice today. I remember being in college and driving to school. The DJ introduced In the Air Tonight and started playing it. Right before the drum fill, he paused the song, broke in, and said, "okay, everyone, get your air drums ready!"
Dude, Miami Vice's proper goof song is Ian Hammers theme! Comeon. :) K idding. (sort of well theres a story to it.) Best Regards!
Phil was SO popular in the 80s. ALWAYS on the charts. He had 18 Top 40 hits in the 1980's alone, and would go on to have 27 such hits on the Billboard Hot 100. To the point where: when some humor group released a parody of USA Today newspaper, they listed hit tracks, and one of them was "You'll Never Get Rid of Me" by Phil Collins. ROFL.
Top 40 radio is the reason I HATE-HATE-HATE Su-su-sudio.
Thank you so much for sharing this story with us, and your own cover of In The Air Tonight with us! Your singer is just so beautiful in so many ways!🎉
ah thank you so much for the kind words!! I'm really glad you liked the video :) :)
Agree!
Sophomore in high school (85), 100mph, 11pm, minimal freeway lights, windows wide open....In The Air Tonight on full blast. That what I remember most when I think of this song. That moment is burned into my souI. It is still one of the greatest ever.
Great work! I was born in 1963 and there was huge richness in the world with music in my childhood, too many bands to mention but several stuck with me to this day, Rolling Stones, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, Yes, Rush, and of course, Genesis. My favourite will vary with my mood, you’ll often find Pink Floyd playing too. Your work suggests you respect their work greatly, very flattering to be the source of covers and you do great work! Genesis music certainly evolved but I’ll listen to anything from Trespass to Calling All Stations (preferably live versions). Out of my 64 concerts, 6 were Genesis and 3 were Phil Collins/Phil Collins big band. What an entertainer! Thanks, keep up the great work!
I started my love affair with Genesis in 1970 with the release of Trespass, I was 10 years old, and went on a journey listening to Trespass. "Prog Rock" at it's best. I am 64 years old now, an ex-drummer and still escape to the world of Genesis. It has been the only constant in my otherwise life of constant changes. From 1969 - 1978 (And Then There Were Three) Were (For Me) the best years for Genesis, for the "Prog Rock" era. I did purchase "Duke" (1980) and "Abacab" (1981) though really good albums, for me, they didn't have the means to take you on a journey as the albums of old. For me, just my humble opinion, Phil is a world class Drummer, he's up there with the greats in my opinion. Their best album, for me, is and will ever remain "The Lamb Lies Down on Broardway" (1974) Just put your headphones on, turn the volume up and lose yourself in an emotional rollercoaster, in another world.
+1 for your 'life of constant changes'! (though very few eyes can see). Totally agree with 69-78 and a climax with TLLDOB. I'm 55, and at about 30 I turned to jazz and fusion. IMO, you cannot compare Phil with drummers like Gadd or Erskine, but who cares? I will listen to pre-80 Genesis until I am 100, and continue to be filled with the emotional rollercoaster, as you say.
I saw Chester and Phil play together in 1987. As a young drummer, It was very impressive to see the two. Great memory. 💯
Me too! Jan 1987 Indianapolis
@@ReggieMcGuire I was in Houston. A week earlier!! Cool!!
What I love the most about Phil Collin’s is that he is the GOAT of rock but yet humble enough to pass right beside you as a random dude. Also please mention next time who record all instruments in the song. That makes In the air tonight even a bigger song.
Good comment and Phil did actually walk past me and a friend of mine once. We were waiting in the queue at the kebab shop in Turnham Green near where Phil's mum used to live and he walked past us and into the restaurant. I had a Genesis T-shirt on and he looked back and said "good band that, the Drummer has a solo album coming out soon." He smiled and we laughed and said we would go buy it.. I still have that copy of Face Value and play it most weeks.
I was raised in the 70's and 80's and never knew this about Phil's famous song. Now I understand why I've never been able to reproduce that sound on a regular synth or drum machine!
It was also the "stone room" at Townhouse studio 2 that was important in the drum sound.
I worked with a band in the early 90's and spent a week there and the stone room had an amazing vibe and sound to it and was quite unique.
The algorithms have been dropping this on me for weeks. "Phil Collins" - nope, not going to click. Not for lack of respect, but more for years of oversaturation. Now here I am loving the unexpected journey and outcome of this video. Oh, and subscribing over there. All I can say is "damn that was courageous and lovely".
glad you enjoyed it! some commenters are saying they already know all this stuff... glad it's entertaining for you!
I couldn't have said it better. Sometime around the early 90's, the classic rock station I listened to had a "No Phil Collins weekend"
I only knew the hit songs from the Phil Collins era of Genesis. I never thought much of Phil Collins as a drummer until I dove into the Peter Gabriel era of Genesis about 15 years ago. My mind was blown. I love Phill Collin's sound and listening to him play. Very nice breakdown and cover of the song. I enjoyed this video.
Exactly my experience! Thanks for the kind words I’m so glad you liked this!
“They composed experiences.” NAILED IT. ❤
Was a young teenager when all this was happening, thanks for the memories. It was an interesting look at Phil Collins.
I first heard and saw Genesis in 1978 at a concert in Saarbrucken, Germany. I've been hooked ever since. A very unique and wonderful sound indeed. Thanks for the memories.
What a great video! Glad this came across my feed! I'm 50 and my intro into Genesis was their 1983 self-titled album featuring "That's All" which I believe was one of their first really big radio hits. Later, in 1986, my friend made a cassette copy (yes Gen Zers, that's a real thing) of Invisible Touch. I was blown away by the sound volume of "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight," "Domino" and "The Brazilian." Always thought they were a pop band, but in 1989 I started working at a restaurant and the chef there turned me onto "classic" Genesis with Nursery Cryme, LLDOB, and their live album Seconds Out. It opened up an entirely new level of appreciation of not just Phil Collin's talent, but Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford. In 1992 I went to see Genesis live in Chicago for their "We Can't Dance" tour. Was an absolute phenomenal show. They opened up with "Mama." In 1995 (I now lived in D.C) I saw Phil on his "Both Sides" tour. The concert would culminate with Phil and Chester doing a drum solo/duet that would lead into "In the Air Tonight." In the arena, you could feel every drum hit in your chest. While Phil was a lovable pop star with ballads like "Groovy Kind of Love," you'd have to see him perform live to realize how hard he could rock out. So many good memories of his (and Genesis') music. I feel fortunate I was able to see Phil multiple times while he was healthy enough to perform. When giving an example of incredible drum playing of all time, I always point to Seconds Out's live version of "Dance on Volcano" leading into "Los Endos." It will melt your face off! For what it's worth, you now have a new sub for life!
As someone coming up on 60, it's so heartening to see people discover my all-time favorite band. I fell in love with Genesis back in 1978 or so... (along with Rush, whose drummer, Neal Peart, with all respect for Phil Collins, is just that much better!) That said, having been to numerous Genesis and Phil Collins concerts through the '80's, '90's, and 00"s, it's wonderful to go on journey's like this one. To relive all the music over and over is fantastic and to see new listeners experience it for the first time! For those of you listening for the first time there are a number of other Genesis, Peter Gabriel, and Phil Collins albums and hundreds of hours of fantastic music not covered in this video... Go and explore and enjoy!
9:20 This is so funny how he just laughs so modestly and shrugs it off when some guy walks right thru his live interview! 😆😆
Phil had mentioned that the fill itself was lifted from Frank Zappa. Chester was playing with Frank at the time. They recorded some live material for Roxy and Elsewhere. One song was Trouble Coming Every Day. Zappa had two drummers, Chester and Ralph Humphries. There was this blistering double drum fill with monster toms descending in pitch. Chester told Phil, Phil heard it, and "borrowed" it.
True story but Ralph didn't play with Zappa much Chester was his main drummer in those years as I remember it anyway (shruggs). He pulled in Bozzio and Wackerman right after Chester left! (as I remember it anyway) Best regards!
Wow, 14 seconds into "More Trouble Every Day"! Where did Phil Collins say that? The "In the Air Tonight" Wikipedia article doesn't mention it.
As you said :
1974 - Chester Thomson with the same drum intro. Like the world mega hit intro from Phil. On Zappa: Roxy & Elsewhere "More Trouble Every Day"
1977 - Chester plays with Phil Collins
1981 - Phil Collins : In the Air tonight. Any Questions ?
"Where did Collins say that?" Look the Video "Phil Collins : On Chester Thomson - Drumming for Genesis !" from John Edginton Documentaries. At the beginning, about 40 seconds, Collins speaks about Zappa live and the drums. He mentioned the sound of the two drummers. Not the later common intro..My feeling is, Mister Collins thinks, he makes something new of the double-intro. He heard something, a foundation, and creats something really good. For himself ! And Chester, is the Gentleman. If nobody cries, its no problem. Dada-dada-dada-dada-da-da !
That UPS dude nailed it! Respect.
US Postal Service - "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds."
UPS - "Nor a Phil Collins interview."
I've been playing the drums for over 25 years, and I finally bought an electric kit a few years ago just to be able to practice at night when I can't be loud. I bought a Alesis Strike Pro Se, and one of the preprogrammed kits on it is named "Tonight's Air", basically meant to mimic the sound of the drums from that song. They get pretty close, they sound pretty good.
Being in my earlier 20’s at this time, no matter what I was doing I always had to pretend to do that drum beat from In the Air Tonight, including driving.
I remember coming home from work one day at a stop light and there it was on a local radio station, so I did my thing. Toward the end of the beat my head shifted right, there is another guy doing the same. 😅
I guess it’s called being old, but I will always miss the real band music of the ‘70s and ‘80s.
Thanks Phil, love you man!
There are, thankfully, several up and coming bands, not like Genesis et al but at least showing promise. Chief among them right now imo, is a Mexican band called The Warning. They are all over youtube, go have a look, you may be surprised. Although my wife complains that their chord progressions are juvenile, lol.
The music is still there, it's just way harder to find them due to the massive overload of nonsense you hear all the time in radio/charts/whatsoever. The Warning (like Skraeling mentioned), The Hu from Mongolia, Alex Henry Foster from Canada, Amarok and Riverside from Poland, Tuber from Greece (Desert overcrowded is just awesome) ...
Waited for you to play Intruder, Peter's song and first song to use gated drums, and mention Steve Hackett, who still tours today and plays original Genesis live, but alas.
It's great to see people discovering the original Genesis and Phil Collins early career.
As an old sound engineer I've always loved the sound of Phil's drums - the gated verb is something I used for a long time. I've stepped away from engineering for many years and am getting back into it. I really like this video and would love to have you go through your recording setup.
You say you are an old sound engineer - I am one too, one too...
I have a good Genesis story. I watched Mtv from day one but never really knew the history of any of the white acts. I was riding somewhere with a manager I worked for and I want to say we were listening to a Peter Gabriel song on the radio. I told my manager that Peter Gabriel would be great as a lead singer for Genesis and he started laughing. I asked him why are you laughing and that's when he told me Peter Gabriel used to be the lead singer for Genesis. That blew my mind but also made me realize I had a good ear for music.
Haha, brilliant!!!
If only Freddy Mercury had the chance to sing for Queen, that would have been so brilliant.
Chester joining Phil in The Brazilian is probably the most incredible and enlivening song I have ever heard... especially the Liva at Wembley version where Chester and Phil have a drum off.. and neither came off the winner.. they BOTH WON!!!
And so did the crowd.
A Trick of the Tail might be the best album of their entire discography; I think that's because they were at the peak of both creativity and technique, and thou Gabriel had just quit, the album is full of his influences.
@@fasullamail wind and wuthering for me was their best.
Steve more prominent.
As a drummer the engineering and drum SOUND of Phil Collins was UNMISTAKABLE when heard on air. It is a rare thing to hear drums on another artist's track and say, "THAT is Phil Collins." Well done for Phil and well done to his recording engineer.
My first Genesis memory is The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, sometime in the early 80s via my cousin who is much older than me. Didn’t know anything about the band but i liked what i heard, then i heard Follow you Follow me and i’ve been hooked ever since to both, the band and Phil alone. One of my favorite bands of all time.
Let me tell you two things: you’re a great communicator and musician. 2- your story telling is impeccable and almost addictive. Keep it up and thank you for your hard work and passion.
Thank you Simon!
The irony of Gabriel not liking cymbals...and then getting Copeland specifically play the hi-hats on Red Rain is pure gold...
First four albums were very different from So. That's probably the main reason. So is mostly (deliberately) very poppy, unlike aforementioned four before it.
@@IggyWhite thanks scoop! Never would have figured that out on my own. 🙄
Just shows how specific Gabriel is. He's right about cymbals in general though... they are grossly over used and rarely add any thing. Copeland is the best drummer out there in my opinion. He sounds so different to anyone else.
@@johannwolf1 Man, Peter Gabriel must've really hated Alex Van Halen, especially around the 5150 era. That guy wanted a crash and a hi-hat on every beat.
@@IggyWhite Bigtime and sledghammer were huge dance hits at the time (at least in Paris) ... but the rest of the album is so well written and you can hear him establish the sound pallet he still uses to this day. I think So is a real milestone and sonic evolution that he's continued to build upon, US continues the theme. All the preceding albums were more hit and miss. I'm partial to what he did with Passion as well. I'll never forget hearing it the first time - I was photographing Rosanna Arquette (his GF at the time) and she brought a pre release (on cassette I think) of it to the studio. We listed to it at least 5 times all that day. I was floored.
I love seeing Don Moen in this video - two of my songs got released on the label he was on. I eventually got Chester to tell me how he almost got Abe Laboriel Sr. to play with Zappa when Tom Fowler broke his arm. Abe was home taking care of Paul McCartney's future drummer (Abe Jr.) and couldn't do the gig.
the mistake: 17:40
Thank you. RUclips's algorithm rewards 20 minute videos RUclips can cram in more advertisements), so this 7-minute explanation gets turned into an interminable dull overlong video.
i wish i had found that before i skipped through that useless video :D
Phil forever in my heart, what a monster on the kit.
In the early 2000s, I worked with a guy named Gino that was really into progressive rock like Yes, Camel, Gentle Giant ( I would tease him and intentionally misname them Giant Genital) BMS, PFM, King Crimson, early Genesis, etc. With a raised eyebrow, he would literally make that exact same face you're doing here 4:35, all while either air drumming or pointing at the speaker when a certain part would come on, as if instructing me in the way of prog-rockism.
You prog rock guys are the good guys.
Can’t help ourselves! Haha
I was 14 years old when I bought the album "A Trick of the Tail" and fell in love. It was the first album where Phil had taken over singing from Peter Gabriel and it was the best album I had ever heard. I've followed his career ever since and it's been an amazing ride.
I had just turned 15 😂. In Cardiff, South Wales. It was my first Genesis album. My 17-year old boyfriend had been a Gabriel-Genesis fan and wasn’t convinced Phil Collins could handle the job. It took one listen to convince him.
If you had bought ''Nursery crime'' or ''the Lamb'' or whatever previous album, you would say the same :-)
Man, I’m glad I watched to the end because that Taiko was brilliant!
Thank you so much!!
@@DimitriFantini Nice cover but when the Taiko plays I would not be able to tell it's a Taiko. It sounds like it has a snare layered with it. Why is this?
This is very cool. But I’m a bit confused that - when talking about Peter Gabriel’s departure, you covered up Steve Hackett with a question mark in that photo rather than Peter.
😂 definitely an editing oversight! To be honest, even though I've been a Peter Gabriel fan my entire life, I'm used to seeing him without hair, 2000s and on ... so I'm glad you caught my mistake!
Genesis fan forever. This is brilliant. Thank you
You both, singer and drummer (and the rest of the band and crew), have done justice to this song, to Genesis, to Phil Collins and made it your own without taking away from the original feel. Bravo.
@@sheilam4964 thank you!! The song was a two person project!
@@DimitriFantini - Only the two of you! That is more impressive.
You have such a great personality for making any videos. But with deeeeep research and this amazingly assembled content .... so impressive. World class.
Very kind of you to say, thank you so much! 🙏
I watched this purely out of curiosity, and I am so glad I did. Ty for sharing your insight into one of my most favorite teenage sanity saving musical go-to. I drove my grandparents nuts listening to Genisis and Phil Collins on repeat out in their 5 acre yard at the loudest volume with my Boombox, I know it was distorted by that but since I had always been able to listen with my stepdads headphones previously (he was a major audiophile) I was just transported to a better place in my head. As your singer stated I was given Space.. she actually brought tears to my eyes when she said that. Mistake or not Phil and the whole sound influenced by him and all the collaborative talents around this musical journey is undeniably important to so many of us and I'm so glad you brought that magic back to me by randomly seeing and watching your video.
Awesome. I feel very familiar with the history of this tune, but you explained it all in such a way that made it easier to understand. And your cover of it is outstanding. Great job. 🎉
thank you! That really means a lot to hear!
I can totally sympathize with you on "having no career"... however, you're still young, and the urge to have a career may be a pressure coming from the enemy's corner. You _do_ have a career. Your NoRadio band is excellent and mature, with a full ripe sound, you made a cover that equaled the original in sophistication. Even without all those, this video shows that you are completely immersed in that artistic world. What more would you ask from life? It's enough for a lifelong fulfillment, and so many years are still in front of you, Dimitri. I enjoyed this video thoroughly, and of course got to see your In The Air Tonight cover right away. Superb! Phil should be proud of you.
I’ve been following Genesis since I was 12 years old. There progressive classic rock sound was unique. I saw them live 4 times with and without Peter Gabriel. Phil Collins brilliantly took over lead vocalist. Still listen to them daily.
THERE = a location over yonder
THEY'RE = a contraction of the phrase "they are"
THEIR - belonging to them
*THEY'RE* playing *THEIR* instruments over *THERE*
What is it that makes something so simple as this into such an intellectual challenge to grasp?
WOW on Chester! Great resume', of course, great history, and I was immediately struck by the man's energy level! Great stuff!
The song was a massive hit because Phil Collins is one of the best of all time, its more than just drum fills, the guy understands music and how it connects to the soul which is why its powerful. You guys did a nice job, I enjoyed listening, thanks.
Yaaawn..... GOAT huh?
I heard In the Air Tonight before I started listening to Genisis. So there was a lot of backtracking on my part to catch up. But then I watch your video - very fascinating, but the last 2 minutes really set me on fire - from the inspriation you got. I prefer hearing your version, now.
thank you so much for the kind words!
Wow... amazing. I think that's the longest advert for a track I've ever heard.
Love it, love it! I am 69 years young and owned (past tense, I was so stupid to get rid of my 3000+ vinyls!!) virtually every Genesis album. Fav was "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway". Loved learning the background behind this 'accident', then went and listened to your version and you not only did the song - and Phil - justice, but put your own signature on it. So important to a cover. Sent chills down my spine. Great job and I look forward to listening to more of your stuff.
I play this for my kids occasionally and tell my kids to listen up as this is the best song that was ever recorded.
I have followed Genesis since Trick of the tail. which is still my favorite genesis song. My 25 year old son hates rock but loves genesis. Phil is an absolute genius. Thanks for your input
That's the longest commercial for a video I've ever watched. Good work.
No, it's terrible. This video could should, and needs to be 7 minutes long.
Very well done! Lifelong PC/G fan so I did not expect to learn much new, but you shared a lot of clips I haven't seen before and i learned more than I anticipated! (Most of my fandom pre-dates the modern internet, so my learnings were from books and text interviews back in the 90s, along with official band releases).
I love your rendition of ItAT. I'll be checking out your band along with the rest of your videos. Thank you!
Aw Mark thank you so much for the kind words!! Your message really means a lot. So glad to have you here!! (ps - we have an original single releasing in a week and a half that I think you’ll like!)
Very cool. I also had the privilege of studying with Chester. Completely transformed my playing.
Did your teacher happen to attend Belmont University?
I believe he did!
Dude, you have done a phenomenal tribute to my all-time favorite artist of all times in this genre. Thank you for sharing his life that touched everyone.
So glad you enjoyed it!!!
The accident doesn’t matter. Phil Collins showed vastly more talent in the YEARS before his solo album playing with Genesis and Brand X. His solo work would have been amazing anyway.
His drumming on Steve Hackett's Ace of Wands and the whole of Brand X - Product is really special!
Kodo introduced me to the magic and magnificence of the Taiko.. Glad you found it for this!
Fun fact…my first concert was Eric Clapton ….with Phil on drums that tour - SO AMAZING! Front row too!
(and I’d been a HUGE HUGE Genesis fan since I was seven years old…yeah, I was a weird kid) 🤷🏻♀️
the, fast forward and I saw Phil with Chester on drums in concert a few years later….
THEN…YOU , Dimitri, were MY drum teacher for a short moment in time….remember that? (Thanks to Lauren Ruth Ward)
I remember when we chatted before I decided to try virtual drum lessons with you…you told me about your connection to Chester thru YOUR drum teacher and I was like “TAKE MY MONEY” …..and in case you’re wondering…YES! I’m STILL playing the drums! 😊
Hope you’re well!
Angi
Hi Angi!!! I remember that! It’s so great to hear from you! Whoa it’s been… how many years?
I saw Phil on drums for Robert Plant's Principle of Moments Tour in Vancouver,1983. The encore was a take-off of the psychedelic part of Whole Lotta Love, with Plant yelling, "push it!, push it!", and Phil had black sunglasses and a wig. 😎
You also missed Flaming Youth.
Also stunning sound and playing from Phil on all Plant’s albums. Incredible. In The Mood is a masterpiece.
@@onomatopoeidia he opened with In the Mood. Everything fogged up, light from behind so Plant was silhouetted, arms stretched sideways, rorating his hands like some Egyptian dance. It was pretty wild. And Robbie Blunt on guitar was freaking amazing.
Remember that Phil took his music (And others too.) very seriously.
He never took himself that seriously, or got his head too big for his boots. Great, talented guy.
@@sigma80 Well that’s not entirely true, he used to go around complaining that he wasn’t taken seriously as an actor and that Bob Hoskins was taking all his roles, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a serious musician. I’m betting that he had never become the “housewives’ favourite he became in the 80’s. I’m sure it was fun re-recording “Groovy Kind of Love”, “You Can’t Hurry Love” and the like, but no one was going to take him as seriously as they did Peter Gabriel while he was doing that shite.
I was introduced to Genesis by a friend of mine. I was at his house and Duke was one of the albums he played. He had just bought the album too. I loved their sound and I also loved how the drum track kept playing from one song to the next. Almost every song on that album was played on the radio at some point.
I remember going to a music festival in 1996 which was $10 for 11 bands. .38 Special, Cheap Trick, The Jason Bonham Band, Joe Bonamassa, The Nixons and Sun Volt are the bands I can remember.
Your deep delve into the In The Air Tonight/Phil Collins mistake was genius. And thanks to stumbling across that, I now get to experience inspired music by No Radio. Your wisdom and talent has inspired me to buy my first Super Thanks. So... Thanks! 🤩
Wow thank you so much!!! That really means a lot!!
I really wish you would have spent a little more time on the song “intruder”. It was the very first song that used gated reverb on that Peter Gabriel album. It would’ve been nice to hear a snippet of that just for context.
Algorithm brought me here, but I went straight to your NoRadio channel to listen to your cover and that is top notch! Well done! Just tried to leave a comment on the NoRadio video only to discover comments are turned off…wonder it that is part of why it unbelievably only has 751 views after a year….that cover needs to blow up…it’s VERY GOOD
My 2nd cousin Peter Ford taught Genesis music at Charter House public school. He said the original drummer was persuaded by his parents to become an accountant. How must this guy feel now?!?!
Wrote one or two bestsellers....
This was awesome. As a person who has been a Genesis fan for decades, I appreciate you digging DEEEEEP into Genesis lore, including the Gabriel years. And, yeah, you did "the drum fill" justice.
Phil Collins IS a musical genius. One of the greatest songwriters of all time, and the MOST successful musical artist of the 1980s. Phil dominated the 80s, like The Beatles dominated the 60s, he was THAT ubiquitous.
Yes, I would say the Beatles ruled the 60s, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd ruled the 70's, and Phil Collins/Genesis ruled the 80's.
I saw him at Live Aid and his Invisible touch tour. There was a rolling Stone article that called him the Ubiquitous Phil Collins.
I thought it was genius how he could be a solo artist without breaking up his band, and even have Rutherford have HIS own band, the mechanics. His music was in Miami Vice and beer commercials. Awesome times.
Brilliant adaptation of this iconic song. The Taiko drums are huge, crisp, powerful. Well done!!
thank you so much!
Still don't know the mistake
Start listening at 18:20. Phil didn’t make a mistake. The studio engineer did.
The talk back mic was accidentally left on.
@user-cn8wu2ok5s Well, yes....of course.
We all got that this microphone was tripped in the wrong time.
The QUESTION is what did that DO?????
Did it turn a double into a triple?
Was it added reverb later that made the "mistake" pop?
I get it. Didn't go open that rabbit hole at all....
@@federalreservewolflegend3523 it greatly enhanced the depth and sound of the snare but the gate cut it off so it gives a short but very rich sound. that was later redone by several artists...
Thought the same - mic was on? How was this a mistake? I am not a music tech, so yeah, I love the song - especially the original. I like cover versions but nowadays all somgs I hear are covers… but yeah I‘m old
Dimitri, my congrats to you on making this video. Superbly documented, very well edited, truly good. A breeze to watch as it’s so interesting. As a true Phil Collins fan, a gem. Phil’s genius and artistry spans way beyond his drum talent. As a singer and multi instrumentalist as well. A big, big fan of his work from a young age and really grew on to appreciate him that much more as I’m a fellow musician myself. And congrats too on your project NoRadio. Cheers.
thank you SO much for the kind words! It really means a lot that you enjoyed this!
Why did you completely pass over Steve Hackett and even putting a question mark over his silhouette?
I think he meant to darken the silhouette of Peter Gabriel instead, first from the left.
Absolutely love the Genesis of Phil Collins time.
Fabulous sounds and unforgettable performances and so many great tracks.
This is an extraordinarily well made video! Of course, as a massive Genesis/Collins fan, there's nothing here I didn't already know. But this was highly entertaining, nonetheless. Here's an important piece of advice: If you want to properly dive into the Genesis back catalogue, it is IMPERATIVE to try to track down the 1994 Definitive Edition Remasters. What you are listening to in this video are the EXECRABLE 2007 remixes. These are the worst thing to ever happen to Genesis' glorious body of work. All you get from the 2007 abominations is a sterilized and defanged version of the music, especially as you move beyond the Gabriel-era records, and ESPECIALLY as regards the magnificent Rutherford/Collins rhythm section. If you want to experience the full power and majesty of Genesis--and I really, REALLY want you and all newcomers to classic Genesis to experience it--you've got to hear the '94 Remasters, or at the very least, ANYTHING other than the '07 garbage. End of rant.
This is very good advice!! Thanks for the kind words on the video and I’ll be checking out those ‘94 remasters 👊
And now, I just listened to NoRadio's cover...as a huge thunderstorm climaxed with huge thunder just as that drum part hit. Completely unreal sound!
I think maybe we were in the same thunderstorm!
@@DimitriFantini SW Arkansas?
@@paulis7319 nevermind! haha
@@DimitriFantini Alternate universe? lol
Dude, your videos are just amazing. Please, keep doing this. Very good quality.
Thank you so so much!!
As a 60 years-old Genesis fan I'm delighted to see that younger generation is aware of the subtleties and the magic of their music. I 'll never forget the drum duets with Chester when I first saw them in 1981
Great video, dude. I loved the way you explained gates. So easy to understand!!
man thank you so much, glad you enjoyed that part!
A Trick of the Tail is one of my favorite albums ever. It's somewhere between classical music and rock, unique.
Charismatic voice (the youtube channel) did a video on in the air tonight. That's worth a look as well because she talked about his singing. Playing the drums AND singing is fantastic. Doing it exceptionally well is genius.
In all honesty I am a trained singer, guitarist and drummer and I never understood the problems people would talk about regarding singing and playing this song on Drums... I have no issue at all with that, some things you do some you dont. However it was not until 2020 when I was choosing a few covers to play on a limited run tour in my band The Vegetarian Vampires where I was mostly playing acoustic guitar and performing lead vocals.
I find playing the accompanyment on guitar, as simple as the chord chart is is very difficult and relatively easy to lose it for a crotchet or more if you're not completely mindful of what you are playing as rhythm guitar parts down to an exaggerated tea. I never lost it on stage during that tour but I spent quite a while deciding exactly what I would play and where I would change parts and arrangements.
Give it a shot, it's just dm C Bb C and then it shifts the rate of the chord changes. It is quite difficult to play because of that sneaky digital drum part and the way that plays completely against the rhythm of the vocal part. Look at a chart of the vocals, it is all over the place in phrasing. See if you find the same thing. Almost as hard to play and sing as The Afternooons Hat by The Arctic Monkeys where Alex strums 1a 2 3a4 and changes chords whilst singing a very strong but rhythmically different vocal part. He's essentially playing 3 against four. It's a tricky one and probably the best B side in history.
What makes that drum fill truly iconic is not that one bar of toms, but what Collins plays on the 1 and 2 of the following bar; that's what does it. If he'd only done the toms, it would have been fine, but the extension halfway into the next bar is what seals it, making it roll into what follows.