@@FreezyAbitKT7A It's very easy for people to critic when they basically are creating nothing and producing nothing to get critic from us. I mean take you for example, look at your content on your channel. You are really not in a position to say anything about Phil Collins music or lyrics. The things you are uploading are so boring, so out of interest, but people don't take a shot on you because they don't even know your existence and you don't even care about music to begin with. What a weird obsession to film some radio in bad quality and talking about tone for more then 10 years, wtf dude? I doubt you can keep anyone self don't be ridiculous!
Phil Collins has to be one of the most underdurated drummers of the 20th century. He is so complex, his fills are so dynamic - His style is so nuanced, it's just amazing that he doesn't get more credit for what he's done.
Agreed. He’s not only very skilled but he also had a very distinct sound (which isn’t easy). I think if he had only been a drummer and not a super popular singer who did ballads and fun Pop music, he would’ve gotten more respect from the critics and music snobs. He might’ve gotten bonus points from them if he had done hardcore drugs and trashed some hotel rooms too.
Amazing how many people here want to point out how Collins’ 8 favourite drummers are somehow wrong because someone they appreciate isn’t on his list. They’re exactly correct because they’re his favourite drummers, for heavens’ sake - some combination of what influenced him in his formative period and what he personally found compelling musically. What strikes me about his list is how broad they are stylistically and technically. My top 8 would be a bit different but that’s irrelevant - I’m not Phil Collins
There’s a video around of Collins and Bruford talking. Collins was quite humble about his admiration for Bruford and was surprised when Bruford felt the same way about him.
Absolutely. My favourite food is a cheese and onion sandwich. People can tell me I'm wrong - but I'm right - it's true that I would rather eat this sarny than anything else. But you are welcome to prefer pasta! Or... whatever!
@@amnril He was a great drummer for sure...saw him 3 times with Genesis in 1980-1981-1982...and the dual drumming with Chester Thompson was something to see!
Anyone who realizes Ringos contribution to music is OK by me! Phil “gets it” as far as the musicality of a drummer and that’s been a big part of his success.
@@1964rocks That IS enough, but then also...if he sucked, why on earth would John and George hire him when they went solo?! And then John had Ringo impersonators!! Also, if you want to hear another great Ringo impersonation: Radiohead - Exit Music (For A Film)
His drumming on Selling England By The Pound is Fking MASTERFUL-so inventive, tasteful, and perfect through many, many difficult passages and time changes. RESPECT Phil!!!
Totally agree. Selling England imo is their best album and one of THE best ever. Drumming on Cinema Show is fabulous, as I recall it was slightly off beat in the keyboard solo...?
Great drummer! Unfortunately, his back failed him. I’ve never had back problems (other than the occasional pain from a hard day's work) I’ve known people who have, and they were never the same in their careers.
Jeff Porcaro was up there with any of them. You read the countless stories about how he nailed hundreds of drum sessions in literally one or two takes. The guy was a genius. RIP
he's talking about the drummers that had influenced his style of drumming.It's not a chart of the best drummers ever.Porcaro was a great drummer,but when Collins began to play,he was14 years old
Saw Phil the first time when I was 14 in 1973. He was amazing. Saw Alan White, Paul Thompson, Simon Phillips, John Bonham, Buddy Rich, Ian Paice, Bob Siebenburg, Simon Kirke, Phil Rudd, and Steve White. Collins and Thompson were the most impressive! Jim Gordon was one of the true greats!
Collins is an outstanding musician. His legacy will last the test of time. Love his work, both musical and cinematic. I get a sense of everyman in his efforts. I'm surprised that this discourse didn't mention Gene Krupa.
I saw Brand X at (IIRC) the Roxy on Sunset Blvd. I sat 15 feet away from Phil, whose drum set was center stage, right in front of me. He was utterly brilliant.
Thank you for mentioning Brand X !!!!! I'm pretty sure most people have no idea who there are, never mind that he played with them, unless you are my age and was introduced to great music at an early age. I recently broke out "Product" and was reminded again how brilliant and innovative they were. Percy Jones??? Only in small circles is he mentioned as one of the greatest bass players and he most certainly is, oh well, at least we know.
I was there as well. I Didn't realize at the time Phill was a left hsnded drummer. But seeing him play on a left hand kit was MIND GOGLING!!!! I also saw Billy Cobham there at the Roxy around that time as well. BRAND X was on fire!
Dude made gold of everything he touched. Everything. Well...not personal relationships, but none of us are perfect. He made gold of everything he touched with respect to music and entertainment.
I have been playing the drums for over 50 years and Phil Colin’s in one of the most talented drummers ,musicians,songwriters,singers to ever been on a stage
I am shocked that Neil Peart was never mentioned. Now, there's a master! My favorite percussionist! He always stated that he wasn't a drummer. Rest in peace, Neil.
Phil came before Neil. In fact Neil has mentioned Collins as an influence multiple times. If you’re unfamiliar with anything but his more commercial material go back to the old Genesis or Brand X for a taste of how much facility Phil possesses.
Carl Palmer is never mentioned in these lists because of the snobbery about prog rock. However, Palmer is a fully rounded percussionist, even playing with Buddy Rich's big band. I feel that you can see Rich's influence on Palmer's style. Two of the greatest, if not the greatest drummers ever. By the way, Zac Starkey is way better than his dad and people forget he has been The Who's drummer for decades and a way better fit than Kenny Jones was.
I had the pleasure of seeing Carl perform when he did a tour in which he paid tribute to Keith Emerson. I can honestly say I have never seen such a large drum kit. His performance was amazing
Zac Starkey is not a "way better" drummer than his dad, he is different, in a different context and yes, certainly way more technical. Each musician is unique and like Ingwie Malmsteem once said : "it's not a sport". That being said, Zac Starkey is indeed a fantastic drummer.
I have always been a huge Genesis fan. I also played the drums for 34 yrs and some of his greatest drumming is on the early albums. Phil Collins is one of the best and should be considered as one
Another amazing drummer worth considering is Simon Phillips. He is an ambidextrous drummer, and can lead with either hand! This list is Phil's favorite drummers. I think we all have our own list - mostly from the music we love and listen to.
Phillips was chosen as the replacement for the brilliant Jeff Porcaro in Toto following his death in 1992. Huge shoes to fill but he pretty much pulled it off.
Listen to Russ Ballard's "Voices" with headphones. Simon's phrasing on that song is brilliant. He never plays the same phrases twice. Listen closely. His entire drum track is a song unto itself. That one song is a masterclass in modern drumming.
And plenty of drummers that never got any fame, local pub drummers, anyone that drums and enjoys drumming is getting mention by me, all drummers all around the world are all worth a mention no matter what level or style I would never get bord watching or listening to any drummer.
I think there are good drummers and then there are great drummers. I think Phil was right about Buddy Rich being one of the greatest of all-time, regardless of whatever genre you're in to.
Aynsley Dunbar. And it's funny that both Keith Moon and Ringo had parts in Zappa's, 200 Motels. And to surprise everyone, most underrated drummer is, Karen Carpenter.
Completely agree. If Aynsley had won the coin toss he would be far more recognized as one of the greats. And I've also thought about 200 motels having three of England's greatest drummers. Karen's style was heavily influenced by Buddy. She was a fabulous drummer.
Karen has my vote also. Was hoping he would mention her. Anyone who disagrees should try playing the drums and singing at the same time. Mr Collins should appreciate that. He seemed to have a bit of a bloody British bias there mate!
They talk about Gadd's work on Aja while he's playing Simon's 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover. I'll never forget watchin' Gadd do 50 Ways live with his Evans oil filled heads. The thud of that floor tom....just amazing.
No one-not even Chester-has EVER been capable of reproducing Phil’s nuanced/dynamic 6-stroke-roll fills on songs like “Through These Walls” & “Inside Out.” INIMITABLE!! 🤟🙏
@@Mo_Ketchups Well, I was always impressed by that fill, but when I played my drum teacher the Through These Walls version, he laughed, declared it trivial and played it flawlessly, at least to my ear. He also made light work of deconstructing the 9/8 section in Supper’s Ready. But, no doubt, it was amazingly creative of Phil to consistently come up with these in a musical and incredibly popular context. He’s a household name and my drum teacher, who has incredible chops, isn’t☹️
I became a Pro Drummer because of Phil! 42 years ago. i have worked on-line w/ some of the Greatest Musicians ever from members of THE WHO, TOTO, Taylor Swift, Mariah Carey and many others Thanks to Phil Collins and my Main Producer Warren Huart!!
Yeah, Gadd is a monster. I found it humorous the narration mentioned Steely Dan while showing a clip of Gadd playing his brilliant contribution to Paul Simon's "50 Ways..." track.
Bernard Purdie is already quoted : he played on the Beatles records, credited as Ringo StarrGenesis hired Bill Bruford for a time, Phil must still be jealous... Or furious Bill left for another project... or humiliated him showing Genesis' public what a real master is?
The song Nuclear Burn by Brand X is the pinnacle of Phil Collins drumming- in my opinion. Foxtrot, Nursery Crime, Selling England, and Trick of the Tail all had some brilliant moments, but Nuclear Burn is just insane.
According to Phil, his greatest drumming playing with Genesis was around The Lamb period. I tend to agree. But, yes, his playing in Brand X (in the studio and live) is insane. If you think about it, Unorthodox Behavior (which includes Nuclear Burn) was recorded just a year after The Lamb, and just a couple of months before Trick of a Tail (another album where Phil shines).
What a blessed life to be son of a brilliant drummer father. FREAKING ENVIOUS!!!!😂❤ This apple didn't fall too far away from the MIGHTY TREE!!! His wise old man Phil certainly did a great job nurturing this guy.❤😂THE PC FLAME HAD PASSED & WILL LIVE ON... I can imagine how proud PC is!!
Moonie, Palmer, Peart. Would rather watch Moonie perform and entertain than all others drummers. There are thousands of great drummers out there. Love them all.
I saw The Who at the Garden and was really close to the drum set. I saw almost every great band from the 60's to 2000's and Moon was the greatest. He was like an intelligent tornado when playing. The Who never recovered after his death.
Same. Moonie was not only a drummer, he was a performance. I've seen him play four times with the Who. It's not easy to upstage Townshend and Daltrey. But my eyes were always on Mr Moon.
Phil is one of the greatest all-around musicians of all time. As a drummer myself of 50 years, I really appreciate his drumming musicality. It adds so much to the songs. He's my favorite prog rock drummers -even more than Bruford.
Yeah, people don't get that musicains have favorites and biggest influences while also being able to be objective about who is the best. I'm a punk and metal musician and wouldn't put Van Halen or Rush in my top 100 favorite bands or any of their members as 100 biggest influences to my style but I'd certainly put Eddie and Neil in a top 10 best at their instrument in the rock genre.
I've been playing drums since the 6th grade back in 1985. Phil Collins is an Absolute Beast of a drummer. I know he is mainly known in the rock genre but he is an Ultra Top Tier Jazz Fusion drummer. I dare you to go listen to the entire album, "Unorthodox Behavior" by Brand X!!! You can find it on RUclips. It is such a good album and one of my favorites!
I saw him live from the 7th row on The Lamb tour and he was transfixing. At that point in his career, and the few years earlier and after, Phil Collins was not a good drummer. He was great.
Two son musicians and two daughter actresses. Check out Simon Collins' band Sound of Contact, only one album but it's very good and his voice resembles Phil's
Moon was simply the first to “smash.” And yes, it was liberating, but yes, Ringo had broken the ground even for moon. Ringo had (A) been perfect for the early Beatles on stage, behind the Lennon/McCartney innovative rock ‘n’ roll songwriting for live audience, vinyl LP’s, and AM radio, and (B) responded perfectly to the studio/recorded-release ONLY songwriting of John Lennon and Paul McCartney - and George - with perfect complementary drum parts for everything they came up with after they stopped being the mop tops and stopped touring on stage. No one else could’ve done it. Ever. John Bonham, in a completely different way, was in a class by himself also.
Phil was part of the golden age of drummers...Barriemore Barlow, Ian Paice, Phil Ehart, Ginger Baker, not to mention Neil Peart plus the ones Phil himself has mentioned. We will never see musicians like this again.
Danny Carrey, Dale Crover, Dave Grohl, Tim Alexander, Dave Lombardo, Lars Urich, Eloy Casagrande, Mario Duplantier, Jason Roeder, Igor Cavalera, Danny Fraizer, Chris Hakius, Ashley Williamson, Gene Hoglan, Coady Willis, Dez Kensel, Brann Dailor, Jody Jordison, and John Dolmayan are all amazing and groundbreaking drummers who have taken what others did before them and expanded on it. And yes, Lars Ulrich certainly belongs on a list of groundbreaking drummers because he was the gateway for many into thrash metal and made millions of us go buy a kit.
@@bananacakes8939And the recordings of some of those shows are in the best JGB and Legion Of Mary performances in my opinion. He played on several JGB albums as well. He locked in so perfectly with John Kahn on bass.
A very young actor, drummer, singer, song writer etc all at the highest level yet he remains so down to Earth. How he stepped into Gabriel's shoes and performed songs like 'I Know What I Like' was no mean feat. A great legacy.
I so agree. His phrasing, like Phil's and Neal's, is genius. I saw Mick play at a restaurant on PCH decades ago. He is a brilliant drummer and musician.
What I love about Fleetwoods playing, is that he very rarely hits the cymbals. And thus, his sound always lends a real primal feel to the sings of Fleetwood Mac.
Yes! I love how he’ll put a fill or push the tempo in places most other drummers would avoid, and it’s always so tasty. He doesn’t seem to get his due in the drum community. His autobiography is also a great read.
Great video and info on Phil Collins and his favorite drummers! 3 of my personal favs are Cozy Powell, Mitch Mitchell and.... the amazing Ian Paice of Deep Purple who is the last original member of the band. He has played on every studio recording and every live show since 1968! Check out 'The Mule' from Deep Purple Made In Japan. Epic drumming.
Great choices all, especially Buddy Rich. Rich looked like he was doing nothing but breathing it was so effortless for him. I would have added Bill Bruford to that list as well.
I completely agree with the sentiment but as it's only a top 8, it would have been tough to drop anyone from it to squeeze Bill Bruford in. Don't forget that he toured with Genesis, taking over from Phil as he became frontman and singer and appears on Seconds Out. (You probably know this but some might not).
I don’t know if Collins was as into Bruford’s contributions as those of the others. I don’t see the subtlety of Bruford’s work with King Crimson in particular as showing up in Collins’ style. Bruford has a fantastic voice, but, like a jazz drummer, it’s mainly in his hands. He’s not as foundational as the others on the list. When you think of Bruford, you don’t think Anchor.
I always admired Bun E Carlos. He was just as good as his contemporaries but he always made it look effortless. While other drummers are all flailing hair and sweat, Bun looks like he’s just chilling in an easy chair. He’s the perfect combination of talent and style behind the kit.
I’ve always been a huge fan of Jeff Porcaro. I like Bozzio, Moon, Copeland, of course Ringo. Phil Collins is in that group as well. Collins is amazing in the era he wrote and played. Later 80’s I followed John Panozzo of STYX fame. One of the better double bass drum drummers of that time.
Incredibly thoughtful piece here. Your writing is brilliant on this and your other videos. You are both very insightful on your understanding of the nuances of musicianship and your writing is exceptionally good. Bravo!
Big fan of Phil. Throughout his career, which is impressive. Watched him in concert twice, listened and viewed a lot of his material. If not everything. My cousin lent me 'Second' s out' on tape in the early eighties. Hooked ever since.
Let's get perspective here: Billy Cobham is technically levels above all of these , as are dozens of jazz and fusion drummers . But that's the delight of personal opinions.
It always depends from which perspective you shine the light on these drummers. Precision, innovation, artistry, melodic feeling, etc., these here are a selection of his favourites, but I am sure he has more than. I believe for Phil Collins melodic feel was very important, and he was one of the most melodic drummers, wasn't he? I love his drumming.
Phil played drums for one of Robert Plant's solo albums. He also went on tour with Robert. I was at Joe Lewis arena when I saw them. At one point, Robert introduced the members of the band. The last person he introduced was Phil. It was the loudest, longest ovation I've ever heard.
Hi, Was it before or after the Live Aid 1985 ? Phil played with R Plant an J Page, I don't remember the bassguitarist. Seen Phil with Genesis in 1981, Abacab Tour, he wore grey jogging pants and was verry funny when he went at the front of the stage, as Chester Thompson did his job on drums. So cool ! I don't really have a favorite drummer, getting old I appreciate drummers who play quiet simple, but Dennis Chambers always amazes me. And yes, Starkey was very good. Nobody mentionned Karen Carpenter ?
@@taze317 I read once, during an interview with Buddy Rich by a journalist who asked him who he thought the best drummer was, Buddy answered Karen Carpenter. No idea if it's true, if Buddy answered to provoke, if he really thought what he said, maybe he had a crush on pretty Karen, or was he really sincere. Me I really like Karen's drumming. Thx for your feedback about Robert Plant and Phil Collins.
@Diomede-Lefort Sure thing. I don't know if you've seen this video of Karen playing different sets of drums and all sorts of percussive instruments, but she was on a big set running from drums to drums. It's on RUclips. She was one of a kind. Beautiful, great singer/songwriter, phenomenal drummer. Take care 🙂.
It has always surprised me the playing style of Charlie Watts. What he does with his right hand when he stops to hit the snare with his left drumstick is kind of strange and it looks like the result of not learning drumming with any teacher, like a mistake that once you start making, you can't get rid of it later because it is ingrained in your brain. However, his sound has become so characteristic of the Stones, so clear, so marked and so perfect for their music that I could hardly imagine the Stones without him. Oh, and he was modest, very modest, saying he was not a good drummer, that he was just an average one. Very humble guy. I always respected him.
Charlie didn’t play like that his whole career, he started doing the resting with his right hand whenever he hit the snare with his left in 1978 during the Some Girls era. This is a technique he openly acknowledged he took from Zigaboo Modeliste, drummer from The Meters.
PC doesn't get the recognition he deserves as a drummer. One of the best in rock. Powerful and technically skilled. I saw him live with Eric Clapton at the Albert Hall in the '80s and was hugely impressed.
@@HEADLINEZOO Do you know how you recognize it's a drummer knocking on your door? He's the only one who accelerates while knocking... Hopefully John hadn't! If I want great timing, I can use a drumbox...
@ Bonham was very unhappy with his own drumming. Sure, sometimes you increase speed in an even linear fashion and it works. Sometimes it’s just poor timing and doesn’t work despite it being flashy. LZ were often sloppy in concert. Bonham wasn’t happy and had a seriously destructive drinking problem that hurt his musicianship and killed him.
IMHO Barrie Barlow is the best but all drummers mentioned on here deserve recognition……personally if I had to pick a drummer to play with it would be Levon Helm RIP.
Seen Phil live with Robert Plant when he first came out on his own after the Zep break. Pictures At Eleven tour Kit was so massive, even with binos all I could see was the top of his head.
Two son musicians and two daughter actresses. Check out Simon Collins' band Sound of Contact, only one album but it's very good and his voice resembles Phil's
@@andrewfraser4376 Just curious, (as an _old_ English - non-drummer -lady who loves both The Beatles still, and Queen, amongst other bands) ...And, yes I _know this_ is about _Phil's_ personal favourites, but... How do _you_ relate to the drumming of Roger Taylor...and Zac Starkey too, please? (Thank-you).
Barrymore Barlow unique,diverse and created on a level all its own. It was John Bonham who called Barlow the best drummer England ever brought forth. He was not joking.
I dislike his pop hits. I don't want to hear any of it, and when it's on the radio I sigh until it's over. But what I do really think is, compared to other pop music, his is still crafted exquisitely well.
Good clip!!! Especially because it focusses on Phil's drumming. I got to know Genesis in 1972, love their albums till this day, saw them live on many occasions, both with and without Gabriel, but Phil was and is first of all a magnificent drummer, underestimated by many, probably because he's known more for his sound in the 80s. Yet, play the early Genesis-stuff, Brand X, the many records he played on for other artists, it's so good!!!! I have to admit that after 1982 I both stopped buying Genesis and Phil's solo-albums, but to this day he's my drumhero. And, as far as I can tell, he seems a nice guy!!! And for those proposing other drummers that they like: it's not important, it's about Phil and these are Phil's favorite drummers. 😊
Great voice, musician, writer, producer. Brilliant drummer, great keyboard player. On top of that he’s a great personality as well, a very likeable guy. 😁
Collins was also hugely influenced by jazz/fusion drummers like Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, and Lenny White, as well as the Motown drummers. These are a big part of his sound as well.
This is about PHIL's favorites, not yours or mine. My list is almost entirely different (though Phil himself is on it, as it turns out). Someone should do a video of lots of famous drummers naming (in 30 seconds) their top 5, one opinion after the other, and then most of these comments might have a better home than on this video about Phil's influences.
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Never understood the hate for Phil Collins. He's a great drummer, singer, songwriter and down to earth guy.
cuz his pop career was shite
@@deansusec8745 The only true way to measure a career is stats, sales and charts.....I checked......your comment is shite!
@@deansusec8745 Yeah, I guess he didn't sell enough albums to be considered a success.
if you did not talk about this, it would disappear
this was in the 90's not now when Grohl Hawkins, metal drummers, Peart and many more adore him
Plus he was Band Aid drummer.
HUGE respect for Phil. People take a shot at him because he got super famous but he was damn good at what he did.
Just say the word oh... sue sue sudio.... that's why people take a shot at him. The lyrics are as bad as Cohen's Hallelujah
@@FreezyAbitKT7A It's very easy for people to critic when they basically are creating nothing and producing nothing to get critic from us. I mean take you for example, look at your content on your channel. You are really not in a position to say anything about Phil Collins music or lyrics. The things you are uploading are so boring, so out of interest, but people don't take a shot on you because they don't even know your existence and you don't even care about music to begin with. What a weird obsession to film some radio in bad quality and talking about tone for more then 10 years, wtf dude? I doubt you can keep anyone self don't be ridiculous!
He totally had the Midas touch for awhile.
@@Puffsdad Some might say he had the invisible touch.
@@FreezyAbitKT7A that's like saying a shit sandwich is as bad as a gourmet baguette from the Ritz
Phil Collins has to be one of the most underdurated drummers of the 20th century. He is so complex, his fills are so dynamic - His style is so nuanced, it's just amazing that he doesn't get more credit for what he's done.
His phrasing is _brilliant._
Agreed. He’s not only very skilled but he also had a very distinct sound (which isn’t easy). I think if he had only been a drummer and not a super popular singer who did ballads and fun Pop music, he would’ve gotten more respect from the critics and music snobs. He might’ve gotten bonus points from them if he had done hardcore drugs and trashed some hotel rooms too.
Apparently you don't have access to the "ratings". He's always been widely regarded as a technically brilliant drummer.
@BeforeAndAfterScience Was the snark necessary?
Amazing how many people here want to point out how Collins’ 8 favourite drummers are somehow wrong because someone they appreciate isn’t on his list. They’re exactly correct because they’re his favourite drummers, for heavens’ sake - some combination of what influenced him in his formative period and what he personally found compelling musically. What strikes me about his list is how broad they are stylistically and technically. My top 8 would be a bit different but that’s irrelevant - I’m not Phil Collins
There’s a video around of Collins and Bruford talking. Collins was quite humble about his admiration for Bruford and was surprised when Bruford felt the same way about him.
Well Said 👏👏👏👏👏
Listening to Phil’s drumming , he represents each one of the eight favorites. I can hear those drummers whom he was influenced by. Awesomeness
Absolutely.
My favourite food is a cheese and onion sandwich. People can tell me I'm wrong - but I'm right - it's true that I would rather eat this sarny than anything else.
But you are welcome to prefer pasta! Or... whatever!
@@alan2007-x8x you're
wrong - a cheese sandwich is a terrible drummer
Phil Collins is an amazing drummer!!
His job with Genesis and Brand X were truly extraordinary.
Brand X!
@@michaelgawel5823 Sure and all the other drummers in Brand X were better than him!
@@danieldesjardins6615 everyone has an opinion. Mine is that’s he’s a great drummer.
@@amnril He was a great drummer for sure...saw him 3 times with Genesis in 1980-1981-1982...and the dual drumming with Chester Thompson was something to see!
Not at all. They sounded generic.
Anyone who realizes Ringos contribution to music is OK by me!
Phil “gets it” as far as the musicality of a drummer and that’s been a big part of his success.
*Collins was in a great band (until their singer left), and owes he's success to them, not his fairly average drumming skills*
I would ask any naive person who thinks Ringo sucks to tell you what Beatles songs he played poorly on. Case closed
@@1964rocks That IS enough, but then also...if he sucked, why on earth would John and George hire him when they went solo?! And then John had Ringo impersonators!!
Also, if you want to hear another great Ringo impersonation: Radiohead - Exit Music (For A Film)
Ringo was average and was told by Paul what to play.
@@guruofendtimes819
*Totally in keeping with mein Fuhrer's methodology*
His drumming on Selling England By The Pound is Fking MASTERFUL-so inventive, tasteful, and perfect through many, many difficult passages and time changes. RESPECT Phil!!!
And on Seconds Out. Whoa!!!
Totally agree. Selling England imo is their best album and one of THE best ever. Drumming on Cinema Show is fabulous, as I recall it was slightly off beat in the keyboard solo...?
Absolutely. His playing during Steve Hackett's solo on Firth of Fifth is some of the best I've ever heard
Great drummer! Unfortunately, his back failed him. I’ve never had back problems (other than the occasional pain from a hard day's work) I’ve known people who have, and they were never the same in their careers.
All those early albums
Jeff Porcaro was up there with any of them. You read the countless stories about how he nailed hundreds of drum sessions in literally one or two takes. The guy was a genius. RIP
I agree. Jeff was a great drummer and a beautiful person. We miss him!
Perfectly in the pocket and he could "hold the line"
he's talking about the drummers that had influenced his style of drumming.It's not a chart of the best drummers ever.Porcaro was a great drummer,but when Collins began to play,he was14 years old
@@riccardochifari9289 yes, but he also talk about his son...
Jeff….❤
Saw Phil the first time when I was 14 in 1973. He was amazing. Saw Alan White, Paul Thompson, Simon Phillips, John Bonham, Buddy Rich, Ian Paice, Bob Siebenburg, Simon Kirke, Phil Rudd, and Steve White. Collins and Thompson were the most impressive!
Jim Gordon was one of the true greats!
Collins is an outstanding musician. His legacy will last the test of time. Love his work, both musical and cinematic. I get a sense of everyman in his efforts. I'm surprised that this discourse didn't mention Gene Krupa.
I saw Brand X at (IIRC) the Roxy on Sunset Blvd. I sat 15 feet away from Phil, whose drum set was center stage, right in front of me. He was utterly brilliant.
I was probably sitting a few seats away from you. I was also there.....
GREAT concert! Phil was phenomenal.
I wasn't there.... but I've a vinyl copy of the live recording. Extraordinary.
So jealous!
Thank you for mentioning Brand X !!!!! I'm pretty sure most people have no idea who there are, never mind that he played with them, unless you are my age and was introduced to great music at an early age. I recently broke out "Product" and was reminded again how brilliant and innovative they were. Percy Jones??? Only in small circles is he mentioned as one of the greatest bass players and he most certainly is, oh well, at least we know.
I was there as well. I Didn't realize at the time Phill was a left hsnded drummer. But seeing him play on a left hand kit was MIND GOGLING!!!! I also saw Billy Cobham there at the Roxy around that time as well. BRAND X was on fire!
Dude made gold of everything he touched. Everything. Well...not personal relationships, but none of us are perfect. He made gold of everything he touched with respect to music and entertainment.
I have been playing the drums for over 50 years and Phil Colin’s in one of the most talented drummers ,musicians,songwriters,singers to ever been on a stage
Against All Odds is my all-time favorite song.
No one is the same room with Phil & Karen Carpenter when it comes to singing Drummers
"Phil Colin's" ... jesus fucking christ, dude.
Umm... not for the drumming I hope
Totally agree …a true musician….
I am shocked that Neil Peart was never mentioned. Now, there's a master! My favorite percussionist! He always stated that he wasn't a drummer. Rest in peace, Neil.
Phil came before Neil. In fact Neil has mentioned Collins as an influence multiple times. If you’re unfamiliar with anything but his more commercial material go back to the old Genesis or Brand X for a taste of how much facility Phil possesses.
Well, the press roll he did on Dave Letterman's "Drummers" was to be desired. Neil Peart was great for Rush.
Rush are crap.
I love Neil but he gets too much of the drummer props. Phil is an underappreciated drummer.
dohche @@baronmeduse
Carl Palmer is never mentioned in these lists because of the snobbery about prog rock.
However, Palmer is a fully rounded percussionist, even playing with Buddy Rich's big band. I feel that you can see Rich's influence on Palmer's style. Two of the greatest, if not the greatest drummers ever.
By the way, Zac Starkey is way better than his dad and people forget he has been The Who's drummer for decades and a way better fit than Kenny Jones was.
I had the pleasure of seeing Carl perform when he did a tour in which he paid tribute to Keith Emerson. I can honestly say I have never seen such a large drum kit. His performance was amazing
Plus one can certainly hear Palmer's influence on Peart.
I’ve seen Carl in person more than anyone else from ELP in the 70’s to his solo performances. So appreciate his talent and skill.
Carl is still fit and plays rings around most of his contemporaries. Saw him play at a small local show and his band slayed the material.
Zac Starkey is not a "way better" drummer than his dad, he is different, in a different context and yes, certainly way more technical. Each musician is unique and like Ingwie Malmsteem once said : "it's not a sport". That being said, Zac Starkey is indeed a fantastic drummer.
Original Chicago drummer, Danny Seraphine, underrated and under appreciated. Especially for his contributions to Chicago’s early b sound.
Always overlooked. Unique, irreplaceable.
I agree.
Met him at a music store appearance a few years ago. He was still able to dominate the percussion kit.
Karen Carpenter is also always forgotten about.
@@GregDunn123 - Agree!! saw him a few years ago with his band, California Transit Authority, and he was on fire.
I have always been a huge Genesis fan. I also played the drums for 34 yrs and some of his greatest drumming is on the early albums. Phil Collins is one of the best and should be considered as one
Another amazing drummer worth considering is Simon Phillips. He is an ambidextrous drummer, and can lead with either hand! This list is Phil's favorite drummers. I think we all have our own list - mostly from the music we love and listen to.
I know only of his work with Jeff Beck. That enough is a great endorsment for Simon Phillips.
Phillips was chosen as the replacement for the brilliant Jeff Porcaro in Toto following his death in 1992. Huge shoes to fill but he pretty much pulled it off.
Listen to Russ Ballard's "Voices" with headphones. Simon's phrasing on that song is brilliant. He never plays the same phrases twice. Listen closely. His entire drum track is a song unto itself. That one song is a masterclass in modern drumming.
Absolutely 💯
Superb Drummer. My eight would include Jack de Johnette, Vinnie Colaiuta and Gary Husband.
"Buddy Rich said that Ringo couldn't play"
Django Reinhardt could count on one hand the number of drummers that Buddy Rich complimented.
Never heard of Buddy Rich.
Left or right?
Thank You! my sentiments exactly! however, ringo had Barbara Bach, so he likely did not worry about lists that much
@@elizabetharmada4038then it's safe to conclude you have no idea about drumming
One off best jazz drummers or big band
Neil Peart was not mentioned. My favorite drummer.
Who cares?
@@davesheville2023 I do. GFY!
@@michaelrandall9034 Naww, you got your cranky pants on 🤣🤣🤣
@@davesheville2023 I do, ass.
Ok, then I'm out
Let’s be honest there are lots of great drummers who all deserve a mention.
Thousands of great drummers. Love them all.
And to that I would throw out there, Steve Ferrone and Alan White!
And plenty of drummers that never got any fame, local pub drummers, anyone that drums and enjoys drumming is getting mention by me, all drummers all around the world are all worth a mention no matter what level or style I would never get bord watching or listening to any drummer.
I think there are good drummers and then there are great drummers. I think Phil was right about Buddy Rich being one of the greatest of all-time, regardless of whatever genre you're in to.
@@philipmartin2919 Bill Bruford (Yes) or Billy Cobham (Mahavishnu Orchestra).
Aynsley Dunbar. And it's funny that both Keith Moon and Ringo had parts in Zappa's, 200 Motels. And to surprise everyone, most underrated drummer is, Karen Carpenter.
You're right. She could play the drums like a...real drummer! There's a YT video somewhere of her playing very impressively.
@@larbueno It's the instrument, it was the instrumental music during those parts of the show, it was terrible.
Completely agree. If Aynsley had won the coin toss he would be far more recognized as one of the greats. And I've also thought about 200 motels having three of England's greatest drummers. Karen's style was heavily influenced by Buddy. She was a fabulous drummer.
Karen has my vote also. Was hoping he would mention her. Anyone who disagrees should try playing the drums and singing at the same time. Mr Collins should appreciate that.
He seemed to have a bit of a bloody British bias there mate!
Zappa said that Aynsley "the English of the Group" plays like two bass drums with a single one. (sorry my deplorable english)
Neil Peart and Stuart Copeland are my 2 favorite drummers of all time and are on just about anyone's top 10 list. I surprised neither made Phil's.
thats because Phil is a dick!
Don't forget Bill Buford and Nick D'Virgilio either.
They’re all the same age. Phil wouldn’t have been influenced by them bc they’re his contemporaries.
Gadd not Copeland.
Neil and Gadd.
Don’t Box Me In 😀
They talk about Gadd's work on Aja while he's playing Simon's 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover. I'll never forget watchin' Gadd do 50 Ways live with his Evans oil filled heads. The thud of that floor tom....just amazing.
No one-not even Chester-has EVER been capable of reproducing Phil’s nuanced/dynamic 6-stroke-roll fills on songs like “Through These Walls” & “Inside Out.” INIMITABLE!! 🤟🙏
@@Mo_Ketchups Well, I was always impressed by that fill, but when I played my drum teacher the Through These Walls version, he laughed, declared it trivial and played it flawlessly, at least to my ear. He also made light work of deconstructing the 9/8 section in Supper’s Ready. But, no doubt, it was amazingly creative of Phil to consistently come up with these in a musical and incredibly popular context. He’s a household name and my drum teacher, who has incredible chops, isn’t☹️
I have never had more admiration nor love for a man than I do for Phil Collins. Thanks Phil.
He divorced his wife by fax. He's a putz.
@@JoeandAngie Maybe she deserved that. What do we know?
Seeing Chester and Phil play that drum song was epic.
My 2cts Bill Bruford can play both Phil and Chester stuff at once...
Thats the truth. Ive been blessed to see it live several times.
Yep. Best duets ever invented
@@EP65 Bill Bruford can do the duet alone
I became a Pro Drummer because of Phil! 42 years ago. i have worked on-line w/ some of the Greatest Musicians ever from members of THE WHO, TOTO, Taylor Swift, Mariah Carey and many others Thanks to Phil Collins and my Main Producer Warren Huart!!
Are u virgil donati😮
@@redsed1565 No, he's Jonathan Richard 😊
@@davidf6326 never heard of him
@@redsed1565 Thanks for the Kind Words. GOD Bless You! 🥁😊
@@davidf6326 Hi David! Thank You for the Friendly Recognition.! GOD Bless You Sir!🥁🙋
My best drummer list includes Brian Downey of Thin Lizzy. Always on time on point and driving the music
Brian is an absolute monster and has the best shuffle beat I've ever heard in rock music.
Awesome!!
...loved his hi-hat work!
Very underrated drummer was brian downey as was john coghlan of status quo too
Prayers for Phil...A great talent.
Enjoyed the late mention of Steve Gadd. Everyone mentioned is very accomplished. I would add Jeff Porcaro, Bernard Purdie and Peter Erskine.
Yeah, Gadd is a monster. I found it humorous the narration mentioned Steely Dan while showing a clip of Gadd playing his brilliant contribution to Paul Simon's "50 Ways..." track.
@@AudioFileZ We all wouldn't know about the 50 Ways, if it wasn't for Steve's drumming.
Steve can play anything, a true master.
Portnoy of Dream Theater
Bernard Purdie is already quoted : he played on the Beatles records, credited as Ringo StarrGenesis hired Bill Bruford for a time, Phil must still be jealous... Or furious Bill left for another project... or humiliated him showing Genesis' public what a real master is?
Ian Paice is my favourite.
Solid pick
Same here
Paice is a fantastic drummer yet so often overlooked.
His playing on Made in Japan, is unmatched for a live rock performance.
True master
I saw Genesis a few years ago with Nick Collins on drums.
It was bloody superb.
Who did you see??
Nick Collins, former safety for the Green Bay Packers? A man of many talents 🏈🎼🎵🥁
Barrimore Barlow of Jethro Tull . Remember what Bonham said about him .
Tell us I'm intrigued.
@@kevinobrien1259 Bonham said back in the 1970s that Barriemore Barlow is "the greatest Rock drummer England ever produced".
I never heard that before but it's a fair comment really, Barlow was pretty outstanding back then.
I saw Barrie on the Songs From The Wood tour. Genius.
beat me to the comment
Phil Collins is one of my favorite drummers!
Phil Collins is a seminal drummer in his own right and his taste in drummers is golden!
The song Nuclear Burn by Brand X is the pinnacle of Phil Collins drumming- in my opinion. Foxtrot, Nursery Crime, Selling England, and Trick of the Tail all had some brilliant moments, but Nuclear Burn is just insane.
Agreed on Nuclear Burn. I got in to that almost right when it came out. Amazing song.
Love brand x but got to go back and check it out.
Came here to say the same thing🤘🏻
According to Phil, his greatest drumming playing with Genesis was around The Lamb period. I tend to agree. But, yes, his playing in Brand X (in the studio and live) is insane. If you think about it, Unorthodox Behavior (which includes Nuclear Burn) was recorded just a year after The Lamb, and just a couple of months before Trick of a Tail (another album where Phil shines).
Behaviour
Ian Paice é genial, mas Barriemore Barlow, Danny Seraphine, Ginger Baker, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer e tantos outros, também são extraordinários.
What a blessed life to be son of a brilliant drummer father. FREAKING ENVIOUS!!!!😂❤ This apple didn't fall too far away from the MIGHTY TREE!!! His wise old man Phil certainly did a great job nurturing this guy.❤😂THE PC FLAME HAD PASSED & WILL LIVE ON... I can imagine how proud PC is!!
Phil is always a rocker and a big influence to all who listen. on ya mate.
Moonie, Palmer, Peart. Would rather watch Moonie perform and entertain than all others drummers. There are thousands of great drummers out there. Love them all.
I saw The Who at the Garden and was really close to the drum set.
I saw almost every great band from the 60's to 2000's and Moon was the greatest. He was like an intelligent tornado when playing.
The Who never recovered after his death.
Same. Moonie was not only a drummer, he was a performance. I've seen him play four times with the Who. It's not easy to upstage Townshend and Daltrey. But my eyes were always on Mr Moon.
@bodegabonsai7069 The Mighty Who was not just a concert, it was an event.
Good to see him again.
Fabulous drummer. The early Genesis stuff is mindblowing 😊
Phil is one of the greatest all-around musicians of all time. As a drummer myself of 50 years, I really appreciate his drumming musicality. It adds so much to the songs. He's my favorite prog rock drummers -even more than Bruford.
Funny how people don't read the title. This is a review of Phil's favorite, and why. Not a list of the best.
Yeah, people don't get that musicains have favorites and biggest influences while also being able to be objective about who is the best. I'm a punk and metal musician and wouldn't put Van Halen or Rush in my top 100 favorite bands or any of their members as 100 biggest influences to my style but I'd certainly put Eddie and Neil in a top 10 best at their instrument in the rock genre.
I've been playing drums since the 6th grade back in 1985. Phil Collins is an Absolute Beast of a drummer. I know he is mainly known in the rock genre but he is an Ultra Top Tier Jazz Fusion drummer. I dare you to go listen to the entire album, "Unorthodox Behavior" by Brand X!!! You can find it on RUclips. It is such a good album and one of my favorites!
Ian Paice is a wonderful drummer....plays the song and technically gifted........drumming on Smoke on the Water is fabulous.......
Agree
Thumbs-up on Paice. His drumming on Burn was the most exhilarating thing I'd ever heard when I was 13, in early 1974.
Paice is the master
God I hate these AI voiceovers
Phil was a bloody good drummer.
I saw him live from the 7th row on The Lamb tour and he was transfixing.
At that point in his career, and the few years earlier and after, Phil Collins was not a good drummer. He was great.
If only he didn't sing. Hurts my ears
I didn't know Phil had a son that played, then to see how good he is started my day on a good note!
Two son musicians and two daughter actresses. Check out Simon Collins' band Sound of Contact, only one album but it's very good and his voice resembles Phil's
Moon was simply the first to “smash.” And yes, it was liberating, but yes, Ringo had broken the ground even for moon. Ringo had (A) been perfect for the early Beatles on stage, behind the Lennon/McCartney innovative rock ‘n’ roll songwriting for live audience, vinyl LP’s, and AM radio, and (B) responded perfectly to the studio/recorded-release ONLY songwriting of John Lennon and Paul McCartney - and George - with perfect complementary drum parts for everything they came up with after they stopped being the mop tops and stopped touring on stage. No one else could’ve done it. Ever. John Bonham, in a completely different way, was in a class by himself also.
Phil was part of the golden age of drummers...Barriemore Barlow, Ian Paice, Phil Ehart, Ginger Baker, not to mention Neil Peart plus the ones Phil himself has mentioned. We will never see musicians like this again.
There are some good kids carrying on , it’s the music that changed, some of these kids are great.
I was hoping someone out here might mention Phil Ehart. Yes, terrific, indeed.
Your golden age maybe.. not drums.
Danny Carrey, Dale Crover, Dave Grohl, Tim Alexander, Dave Lombardo, Lars Urich, Eloy Casagrande, Mario Duplantier, Jason Roeder, Igor Cavalera, Danny Fraizer, Chris Hakius, Ashley Williamson, Gene Hoglan, Coady Willis, Dez Kensel, Brann Dailor, Jody Jordison, and John Dolmayan are all amazing and groundbreaking drummers who have taken what others did before them and expanded on it.
And yes, Lars Ulrich certainly belongs on a list of groundbreaking drummers because he was the gateway for many into thrash metal and made millions of us go buy a kit.
It's a list of his favourite drummers, not his list of the greatest drummers. Get over it.
Ya, alright. I know know why my feelings are so hurt. LOL
Agree wholeheartedly....'favorite' not 'greatest'.
I'm sure his favourites change from time to time. Plus he has to mention his old mates 😉
Yep. It's coming from a professional, well known drummer as well, so you have to respect that.
The late great Ronnie Tutt was adaptable to all genres of drumming
The heart of Elvis.
Tutt played drums for the Jerry Garcia Band for four years 1974 to 1978.
@@bananacakes8939And the recordings of some of those shows are in the best JGB and Legion Of Mary performances in my opinion. He played on several JGB albums as well. He locked in so perfectly with John Kahn on bass.
Bill Ward of Black Sabbath is a great drummer.
Collins and Chester doing a duet on the drums was something to be seen
Seeing Chester and Ralph Humphrey doing a duet on the drums was even better than Collins and Chester.
Some interviewer went to Bonzo’s house and he was playing along to Genesis records. So it goes both ways.
A very young actor, drummer, singer, song writer etc all at the highest level yet he remains so down to Earth. How he stepped into Gabriel's shoes and performed songs like 'I Know What I Like' was no mean feat.
A great legacy.
Nobody stepped into Peter Gabriel's shoes, as well as in Steve Hackett's... Genesis just turned into a pop band
Not saying he's one of the top, all time drummers...but I really appreciate Mick Fleetwood's drumming.
He's one of my favorites. He has a lot in common with Ringo, always playing only what the song needs.
I so agree. His phrasing, like Phil's and Neal's, is genius. I saw Mick play at a restaurant on PCH decades ago. He is a brilliant drummer and musician.
What I love about Fleetwoods playing, is that he very rarely hits the cymbals. And thus, his sound always lends a real primal feel to the sings of Fleetwood Mac.
Yes! I love how he’ll put a fill or push the tempo in places most other drummers would avoid, and it’s always so tasty. He doesn’t seem to get his due in the drum community. His autobiography is also a great read.
After reading many of these comments it is clear people missed the point here. These are the drummers that Phil was influenced by not who you like.
Soul, technique, and artistry is a perfect description of Phil Collins.
Great video and info on Phil Collins and his favorite drummers!
3 of my personal favs are Cozy Powell, Mitch Mitchell and....
the amazing Ian Paice of Deep Purple who is the last original member of the band.
He has played on every studio recording and every live show since 1968!
Check out 'The Mule' from Deep Purple Made In Japan. Epic drumming.
What about Animal from the muppets
Seriously underrated and overlooked drummer. Without Animal, Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem would be nothing!
Animal owned Dave Grohl didn't he? 😃
Apparently he is the only muppet based on a real person, Keith Moon.
Omg!!
EAT DRUMS!!!
Great choices all, especially Buddy Rich. Rich looked like he was doing nothing but breathing it was so effortless for him. I would have added Bill Bruford to that list as well.
Beat me to it!! Phil did some drum roadie work for Yes early on and he's always spoken highly of Bill Bruford as a drummer influence.
I completely agree with the sentiment but as it's only a top 8, it would have been tough to drop anyone from it to squeeze Bill Bruford in. Don't forget that he toured with Genesis, taking over from Phil as he became frontman and singer and appears on Seconds Out. (You probably know this but some might not).
Also Bill Ward
I don’t know if Collins was as into Bruford’s contributions as those of the others. I don’t see the subtlety of Bruford’s work with King Crimson in particular as showing up in Collins’ style. Bruford has a fantastic voice, but, like a jazz drummer, it’s mainly in his hands. He’s not as foundational as the others on the list. When you think of Bruford, you don’t think Anchor.
Phil Collins is a badass. Amazing drummer
Great analysis; celebratory, academic and lyrical all at the same time, giving credit to Phill’s own statements about the greats that came before him.
I always admired Bun E Carlos. He was just as good as his contemporaries but he always made it look effortless. While other drummers are all flailing hair and sweat, Bun looks like he’s just chilling in an easy chair. He’s the perfect combination of talent and style behind the kit.
There are SO MANY great drummers out there - with SO MANY different styles/approaches - Phil being one of the very best.
I’ve always been a huge fan of Jeff Porcaro. I like Bozzio, Moon, Copeland, of course Ringo. Phil Collins is in that group as well. Collins is amazing in the era he wrote and played. Later 80’s I followed John Panozzo of STYX fame. One of the better double bass drum drummers of that time.
Incredibly thoughtful piece here. Your writing is brilliant on this and your other videos. You are both very insightful on your understanding of the nuances of musicianship and your writing is exceptionally good. Bravo!
Big fan of Phil. Throughout his career, which is impressive. Watched him in concert twice, listened and viewed a lot of his material. If not everything. My cousin lent me 'Second' s out' on tape in the early eighties. Hooked ever since.
Let's get perspective here: Billy Cobham is technically levels above all of these , as are dozens of jazz and fusion drummers . But that's the delight of personal opinions.
It always depends from which perspective you shine the light on these drummers. Precision, innovation, artistry, melodic feeling, etc., these here are a selection of his favourites, but I am sure he has more than.
I believe for Phil Collins melodic feel was very important, and he was one of the most melodic drummers, wasn't he? I love his drumming.
He was good but not levels above.
Ndugu Chancler underrated Can play extremely well in any genre.
Who say's these are his top 8? It's just a bunch of old clips where he compliments some of his favourite drummers 🤷♂️
Videos like this a misleading
Phil played drums for one of Robert Plant's solo albums. He also went on tour with Robert. I was at Joe Lewis arena when I saw them.
At one point, Robert introduced the members of the band. The last person he introduced was Phil. It was the loudest, longest ovation I've ever heard.
Hi,
Was it before or after the Live Aid 1985 ? Phil played with R Plant an J Page, I don't remember the bassguitarist.
Seen Phil with Genesis in 1981, Abacab Tour, he wore grey jogging pants and was verry funny when he went at the front of the stage, as Chester Thompson did his job on drums. So cool !
I don't really have a favorite drummer, getting old I appreciate drummers who play quiet simple, but Dennis Chambers always amazes me.
And yes, Starkey was very good.
Nobody mentionned Karen Carpenter ?
@Diomede-Lefort Karen could play. The album that Phil played drums on for Robert had the song "I'm In The Mood" on it.
@@taze317 I read once, during an interview with Buddy Rich by a journalist who asked him who he thought the best drummer was, Buddy answered Karen Carpenter.
No idea if it's true, if Buddy answered to provoke, if he really thought what he said, maybe he had a crush on pretty Karen, or was he really sincere.
Me I really like Karen's drumming.
Thx for your feedback about Robert Plant and Phil Collins.
@Diomede-Lefort Sure thing. I don't know if you've seen this video of Karen playing different sets of drums and all sorts of percussive instruments, but she was on a big set running from drums to drums. It's on RUclips. She was one of a kind. Beautiful, great singer/songwriter, phenomenal drummer.
Take care 🙂.
@@taze317 Totally agree with you. I saw this video once, I have very vague memories of it and I will watch again.
Take care of you too.
It has always surprised me the playing style of Charlie Watts. What he does with his right hand when he stops to hit the snare with his left drumstick is kind of strange and it looks like the result of not learning drumming with any teacher, like a mistake that once you start making, you can't get rid of it later because it is ingrained in your brain. However, his sound has become so characteristic of the Stones, so clear, so marked and so perfect for their music that I could hardly imagine the Stones without him. Oh, and he was modest, very modest, saying he was not a good drummer, that he was just an average one. Very humble guy. I always respected him.
Charlie didn’t play like that his whole career, he started doing the resting with his right hand whenever he hit the snare with his left in 1978 during the Some Girls era. This is a technique he openly acknowledged he took from Zigaboo Modeliste, drummer from The Meters.
@@vKarl7 Oh, I did not know that. Thank you for the information. That explains it well.
All so brilliant, my head explodes.... Mahalo to their talent & sharing the gift!
PC doesn't get the recognition he deserves as a drummer. One of the best in rock. Powerful and technically skilled. I saw him live with Eric Clapton at the Albert Hall in the '80s and was hugely impressed.
Brilliant drummer brilliant singer. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Rush's Neil Peart. Praised around the world of rock.
and what's that got to do with the topic?
But was blown away at the Buddy memorial when he stepped into the jazz arena! The Vinnie, Steve and Dave show!
Bonham was so great and unique just like Led Zeppelin!
He didn’t have great timing
@@HEADLINEZOO Do you know how you recognize it's a drummer knocking on your door?
He's the only one who accelerates while knocking...
Hopefully John hadn't! If I want great timing, I can use a drumbox...
Add Bruford, Christian Vander, Terry Bozzio, Cobham, Cozy Powell
@ Bonham was very unhappy with his own drumming. Sure, sometimes you increase speed in an even linear fashion and it works. Sometimes it’s just poor timing and doesn’t work despite it being flashy. LZ were often sloppy in concert. Bonham wasn’t happy and had a seriously destructive drinking problem that hurt his musicianship and killed him.
@@HEADLINEZOO Rock'n'roll doesn't needs to be tight, it ain't funk... Don't listen to Elvin Jones, he'll drive you nuts...
He's excellent, has a swing on drums few have, not to mention being multi-talaented. Full respect.
#1 Rich.
#2 Peart.
#3 Bonham.
#4 Portnoy.
#5 Lombardo.
#6 Carey.
#7 Copeland.
#8 Baker.
#9 Jordison.
#10 Appice.
Is there a point to this post?
Steve Gadd was always noted for being more accurate than a metronome 😮
"Steve Gadd doesn't play a groove, he digs a trench"
Gadd is accomplished in every genre. His versatility is unmatched.
01:40 if you want to get to it
IMHO Barrie Barlow is the best but all drummers mentioned on here deserve recognition……personally if I had to pick a drummer to play with it would be Levon Helm RIP.
Seen Phil live with Robert Plant when he first came out on his own after the Zep break. Pictures At Eleven tour Kit was so massive, even with binos all I could see was the top of his head.
Oh wow, his son plays the kit now....didn't know that. Wholesome to hear that....imagine playing with your own son. Great story.
Two son musicians and two daughter actresses. Check out Simon Collins' band Sound of Contact, only one album but it's very good and his voice resembles Phil's
It's almost exclusively non-drummers who say Ringo was unimpressive -- Buddy Rich notwithstanding.
Yeah: they they should stick to the price of fish....
Ringo is a drummers drummer.
Correct
@@andrewfraser4376
Just curious, (as an _old_ English - non-drummer -lady who loves both
The Beatles still, and Queen, amongst other bands) ...And, yes I _know this_ is about _Phil's_ personal favourites, but...
How do _you_ relate to the drumming of Roger Taylor...and Zac Starkey too, please? (Thank-you).
He was the choice of The Beatles.
'Nuff Said.
Phil Collins may be the most known drummer, with some people not knowing he's a drummer but only as a singer song writter
You mean he is a singer and songwriter too ?
Ian Paice
8 GOAT rock drummers: Baker, Bonham, Collins, Copeland, Moon, Palmer, Peart, Powell. In my opinion.
very nice list; collins and copeland should be in any top 10 list for drummers
Barrymore Barlow unique,diverse and created on a level all its own. It was John Bonham who called Barlow the best drummer England ever brought forth. He was not joking.
Paul Simon said that most top drummers give you what they’ve got but Steve Gadd asks you what you want.
I learned Steve Gadd's name when I had to know who was doing that high hat work on Slip Sliding Away.
Jaki Liebezeit is one of my faves.
Collins get more songs out of one musical idea than anyone in history. He's like an accountant. "How much money can I get from this one note?"
WHAT ?? clean that ten pounds of wax out of your ears !!
@@casedismissed8581 Clean the gallons of sludge out of your earholes too, Amerimutt.
I dislike his pop hits. I don't want to hear any of it, and when it's on the radio I sigh until it's over. But what I do really think is, compared to other pop music, his is still crafted exquisitely well.
Good clip!!! Especially because it focusses on Phil's drumming. I got to know Genesis in 1972, love their albums till this day, saw them live on many occasions, both with and without Gabriel, but Phil was and is first of all a magnificent drummer, underestimated by many, probably because he's known more for his sound in the 80s. Yet, play the early Genesis-stuff, Brand X, the many records he played on for other artists, it's so good!!!! I have to admit that after 1982 I both stopped buying Genesis and Phil's solo-albums, but to this day he's my drumhero.
And, as far as I can tell, he seems a nice guy!!!
And for those proposing other drummers that they like: it's not important, it's about Phil and these are Phil's favorite drummers. 😊
Great voice, musician, writer, producer. Brilliant drummer, great keyboard player. On top of that he’s a great personality as well, a very likeable guy. 😁
Collins was also hugely influenced by jazz/fusion drummers like Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, and Lenny White, as well as the Motown drummers. These are a big part of his sound as well.
The is much more to the musical world than jazz... you must be an American, "Me me me.!
Why so upset? He’s stating the obvious. And, billy wasn’t American, his chops came much further south
Let’s hear it for Bill Bruford!! Masterful!
This is about PHIL's favorites, not yours or mine. My list is almost entirely different (though Phil himself is on it, as it turns out). Someone should do a video of lots of famous drummers naming (in 30 seconds) their top 5, one opinion after the other, and then most of these comments might have a better home than on this video about Phil's influences.
1:42 Ringo Starr
4:10 Keith Moon
5:30 John Bonham
7:20 Buddy Rich
08:52 Charlie Watts
09:39 Nick Collins
10:37 Chester Thompson
11:20 Steve Gadd
Great post! Seeing Chester Thompson on the opening of Inside Out…..wow!