"Landing Gear's NOT going Down!? For Real!" Beech 18 - Multi Engine Flight Training VLOG
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- This was definitely my most stressful flight of 2017!
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I am a "weekend warrior" private pilot, I fly for fun with no intentions of going commercial. I have had my PPL for over 15 years, but still consider each flight a learning experience - I generally take detailed notes after each flight to remind myself what went well or what I could do to improve.... Having the GoPro cameras to record flights like this is invaluable. I find these self analysis videos very helpful in my constant quest to improve, and am happy to share. Feedback is invited; however, please keep it positive.
"I'm perfectly comfortable in any emergency aircraft situation," she says with a parachute strapped to her back ;)
What better preparation with an aircraft emergency than a crew member fully capable and prepared to execute a low-altitude skydive or BASE jump?
Yeah, not only geared up, but even hanging out the door when she's checking.
"Nope, it's not down. Bye."
If I report back, all is well. If you look back and I am gone...
hhahaha
Try to open the door from inside on the ground
Y'all left out a very important step in the emergency gear extension and you got lucky. I am currently repairing a D18S that had a gear collapse after landing where the pilot followed the same incomplete procedure as y'all and did not get lucky. The flight manual clearly states that you need to finish cranking after the gear free-falls. It falls down vertical but you must crank it "over-center". You seem surprised by that. But the real one you missed is AFTER you get the green you have to rock the crank handle back and forth until the clutch pedal come all the way back up. That means that the dog clutch has reengaged and will prevent a gear collapse. That is also in the flight manual. Miss that step and you are relying on luck.
"I am confident in any emergency aircraft situation" . Says the person with the parachute.
this is a shitty comment, theres a minimum altitude at which your parachute will be effective. aka if you're not at that altitude you're still dead 'cause you didn't have enough altitude to properly slowdown.
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 must be your first day on the internet lol
Alex Hendel mate, it’s a joke. Calm the hell down.
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 r/woooosh
Bad things will happen, don’t panic, remember your training, and execute. Great video!
"A good pilot is always learning."
This is one of my most favorite FlightChops videos so far, such an amazing channel. Love your work too, Stevo! Merry Christmas to both of you, looking forward to more kick ass content in 2018!
Truer words have rarely been spoken.
This Applies to everything, I’m gonna remember this comment for the rest of my life.
Wife leans over my shoulder and says.. " since when do you watch flying videos?".... I say.. " since I found Flight Chops!"
"your training mission is officially over"Oh sh!t!
Kudos to Dan. He knows that plane inside and out. Dude was completely calm under pressure. He would be one helluva flight instructor.
Thinking the exact same thing. Would probably be a tough instructor, but that's what you want really.
Honestly I thought this guy was kinda cocky and brash, but after watching this, if you're skilled enough to do that, you deserve it. This man has knowledge and skill enough to have the confidence he shows, I respect that
Dan is awesome at flight instruction....he has always had a passion to teach others and knows his aircraft inside and out. And....he can pick a banjo at the end of the day
Yeah, I'm a glad Dan makes recurring Flight Chops appearances. I think he has a great attitude and philosophy.
I love all of the mechanics in these old planes. The fact that you can engage the gear by hand (and foot) is awesome to think about. The people who had to imagine and design the various components, linkages, and controls to enable you to manually control the plane while also implementing new electronic technologies if the day. It amazes me.
Those gremlins will get ya!
Matt Guthmiller reminds me of the aspen...
Very old Gremlins.
What a unique situation. To be doing a training mission, have something like that go wrong, abandon the training mission, fix the problem, and then have a fully certified, comfortable, and suited-up sky diver who can double check that everything really does look green. Then get on the ground and be able to share it with everyone. Really great stuff.
Agreed. I went through several emotions during this flight, but in the end it occurred to me that although we didn't get the mission I was hoping for, we had captured something pretty unique.
I have countless skydives from Beech 18s, so I never really had to worry about the gear coming down. An absolutely awesome video and learning experience. Thanks for bringing back some great memories.
The one & only time I got a ride along in a 1946 Beech 18 (N187R) was in my student pilot days back in the 90's. We were on our way back to Honolulu when the right engine seized up just as we were leveling off at 3,500'. Luckily we were empty & after feathering it, the pilot looks at me & asks "what do you think?" It was about 50 miles back to Honolulu and there was a small airport just a few miles on our right. I remembered his emergency briefing when we left HNL, consisting of "the hatchet is located behind the seat" when I responded with "I didn't bring any swim gear". "Good enough for me" he said & we landed at the closer airport in Molokai. It definitely was a very memorable experience sitting between those two Pratt & Whitneys and then, to top it off, seeing the propeller blade on my side come to a dead stop for real.
Here's a picture of it (N187R) on Flickr www.flickr.com/photos/ian_a_gratton/7184689603
Great video and congratulations on getting your multi-engine certificate. Thumbs up on the emergency and have a very merry Christmas. Jim
Thanks Capt!
this channel is one of best on youtube
I like this guy. No nonsense, streamlines everything, and expects you to fly it right. I'd fly with him.
That’s what you call a real pro. I am sure he must have been shitting bricks if he didn’t pull it off majestically in front of the cameras ‘cause his whole skydiving school and tourist attraction would have crumbled to pieces. This vid just made him more reliable, safer, and more respectable. Congrats.
Cool as a cucumber.... good instructor. All involved were on point. Looked pretty textbook, and... what an awesome plane!
Man ! My 2 favorite hobbies in the world in one video ! Flying and skydiving ! What I learned doing both is that when you get a failure, well you execute your emergency procedures just like you were taught. It is awesome to see some super experienced pilot handle the situation not just with the emergency procedure, but also with experience on how to actually check that all is good. One of your coolest videos !
You know what, I've wanted to fly with you ever since I started following you, but blowing a Cub off the runway, having a main gear fail, losing an engine in a Seneca (okay, it WAS training), I just don't know any more, Steve! Ya kind of scare me! LOL
I do have to admit though it's always a blast to ride along with you, SOMETHING is going to happen!
I can't wait for the rest of this stuff, it's gonna be great!
Don't forget the autopilot he broke, too. :P
That wasn't the only time autopilot broke with Matt. Ice clogged up the pitot tube on the 210 he was right seat in during an Atlantic crossing and took out the autopilot.
tickwoghgorilla No, that was Matt that was on that flight, not Chops!
I was trying to say that but I'm too dumb to proofread my comments on the internet.
HAHA!
The Beech 18 is my absolute _favorite_ aircraft. Such a joy to fly. Very smooth, yet responsive, and it gives the pilot 100% analog control over every single thing the aircraft is doing.
Thanks for the entertaining and educational video. I've never flown a Twin Beech and the details were complete and clear. I'm glad that it worked out for you.
One of my teammates was telling me about his experience flying a Baron for his employer. He had the president of the company on board. As they were coming in to land at RDU (home base), he got a gear warning immediately upon selecting "Down" with a popped breaker. Resetting breaker and trying again just popped the breaker again. So he tells the boss, "OK, we'll crank the gear down by hand", so he engaged the hand crank that would not move even a fraction of an inch. Try everything again, no difference. Call the tower, breaks off the approach and flies off to a maneuvering area and runs through all the drills. Nothing makes any difference (I don't know if the Baron has a "free-fall" emerg release). His explanation (I'm not an A&P so I don't know - his explanation) is that a Baron has an electrical motor, that operates a set of gears and linkages to an actuating nut on a long drive screw; the manual emerg gear is a handle with linkages to the nut and screw. That long drive screw both moves the gear as it turns and also holds the gear in the "Up" position. There's only ONE system interaction that's common to both the retration and extension systems -- the nut -- and the nut on that airplane was cracked and jammed on the screw in the "Up" positiion.
There was only one thing to do. Fly around, call the tower, burn off fuel for an hour or so, officially declare an emergency with the tower, line up on the longest runway, flare and pull the mixtures, land as easily as possible, and slide down the runway for what seemed like many minutes, all the while listening to the various bangs and pops and horrible scraping noises.
It's good your Twin Beech adventure didn't work out like that.
(PS I once was instructing at a field that had a glider operation and a skydive operation. The Beaver that the jump school was flying once got to about 2500 feet and all the skydivers came out of it. The Beaver landed and I asked the pilot what happened. He said "I was switching tanks and the engine sputtered a bit. Sky divers hate airplanes. At the second sputter, they were all out." ANother time, I was on downwind leg with a student in a glider as I watched the jump school's 206 take off. The pilot mishandled it and put the nose gear into soft ground at the end of the runway. I got to see about 7 sky divers legging it along the bottom of the wing about 2 tenths of a second after the tail settled into the dirt as the 206 flipped. They were getting away from that airplane, too.)
I flew a local group of skydivers for a spell....during one trip to the drop zone, during an 'iffy' cloud cover I made the decision to return to base because we were experiencing a solidifying cloud base at 2000 feet and to continue on would have put me in a possible trap between layers.....
One of the divers informed me he had never landed in a plane and didn't plan to start now....he made a move to jump and I informed him if he left my aircraft with out my permission he would never jump again, even if he survived the descent through the cloud layer, for my first action would be to call the FAA and give them his location......it just happened to be and area of heavy swamps in N. Fla. known as "Tate's Hell" due to the heavy concentration of alligators, moccasins, and hummingbird sized mosquitoes.
He didn't jump and I refused to fly them ever again.
I loved this! The calm, professional handling of the real emergency was perfect. Unfortunately, I shared it with my wife, who isn't sold on going up with me yet... I may have shot myself in the foot.
Jason Thomas Actually, you can capitalize on this and let her know that all the training that you've went through was designed for instance is just like this. She should honestly feel comfortable flying with someone who's had that much training.
Haha - sorry about that - can you maybe remind her that even this vintage old plane with worn out circuit breakers still brought us home safe? I can't imagine you'll want to take her flying in a 60 year old plane?
Just emphasize to her that most in-flight EMERGENCIES really aren't emergencies (unless something is on fire, or the cooling fan on the front stops running, but you can leave that part out 😉). In all my flying, civilian and military, I've never really been afraid of anything that happened with the airplane. Good training is the key.
@@garyreed2206 Yep. Just easier to say an emergency than a problem which requires immediate attention and mitigation.
Failed to check the trapezoidal drive dog engaged 😮
Always brings a smile to my face to see a content creator actually reading the comments. Great video, keep it up!
Thanks! I built this channel by applying viewer feedback and collaborating with the flying community - so heck yeah I read the comments (I can't always reply to them all though :)
It only had to be a matter of time before the right circumstances came together, and it was caught on film. An actual aircraft emergency, and a fully prepared crew. This is the stuff of legend.
Amazing airplane, and great experience as it turned out!
I remember my first time in an RG plane, The gear didn't go down fully as well and we spent the next 20 minutes trying to get to it to lock down.
The pilot and owner was only worried that he would damage his prop on belly landing, as the wheels still stick out a bit when the gear is up so if you get the pitch exactly right you can still land it with no damage.
In WW1 the powers to be didn't want the pilots to have parachutes, because they would be too quick to jump instead of getting the aircraft on the ground in one piece or close to it. My boss at work had to be reminded that at least no one was hurt when one of his helicopters had a hard landing...aka incident. He didn't want to talk about the sixteen killed.
the best part of your vids is that you find these guys that are absolute wizards with tons of experience flying all sorts of equipment. that is your usp. props to niko and stevo but youve got a great angle.
Thanks for the feedback Jose! That is definitely my mission here - My personal journey as a pilot is definitely a big part of the channel; however, it is very rewarding to share the stories of other awesome aviators as often as I can.
You have to be one of the luckiest people on Earth to fly these awesome, amazing, classic, beautiful, majestic aircraft. I would literally give my house away just to fly in the Beech 18 and DC-3. I hope you realize how lucky you're. I will probably never fly in any of these aircraft since I am battling lung cancer and from what my doctor said is I got a max of 3 to 5 months left on this Earth.
Sorry to hear about that man. I am very aware of how lucky I am.
At least get flight training in a single engine plane if you're still alive
You still alive Chief?
@@tylerrose4416 ya he is he has recent comments
Every one of your videos, Steve, it's a refresher or a learning experience or just plain wowaeroplane for me. Thanks again!
I was at Oshkosh watching the air show under the gold seal dc3 engine. It made my week to look behind me and see flight chops just kinda checkin out the airplane. Also the one of the gold seal guys gave me a shirt so that was neatlol.
anchorage has lots of dc3's and dc4's all around!
First of all congrats for your rating! In my humble opinion, the way this emergency was handled and with the detailed footage you guys got, this is by far the best promo clip ever!
The sound of that radial on takeoff
Glad you enjoyed that. I spent some time trying to get the sound mix just right so it sounded like it did when I was actually there
it's what I need in my cub, lol
A close family member of mine used to fly these things on a regular basis working for the military. He said every time they took one up they had to make an emergency landing. After hearing about the beech 18, I thought it was funny that the guy starts off the conversation by saying "you're flying a Beech 18, are you gonna lose an engine today? Yeah. You are." and then have a landing gear failure.
I just finished my multi training yesterday! I like the takeoff recovery he talked through better, it simplifies everything.
Love your videos man. I'm 18 and I'm a flight maintenance student transitioning to flight, and I've learned a ton from watching your videos. I love the transparency of your videos and want to do something similar when I start flight training. Keep up the good work!!!
A quick pucker moment and then back to the business of handling the problem. Enjoyed the video and the training. I've always loved Beech 18s and this gives me more respect for those who fly them.
Fun to see the Beech 18 - my dad was a maintenance chief for a fleet of these at Naval Air Station Anacostia in Washington DC. They were used for desk-bound Naval aviators to keep up their flying status.
Man that was so cool! I've been fascinated with the Beech 18 since I was a kid. Learned some interesting things about the 18 in this video. Yes Mr. Murphy has a way of popping his head up when least expected.
Great video! You managed to capture a not so common occurrence (an emergency) and even well documented it. Great handling by both of you. I've heard of gear switches just going bad in flight before but never got to experience one because most of my experience is with fixed gear trikes.
I just wanted to say your tail dragger and STOL videos made me realize what I was missing and what my passion in flying is about (I never found what just clicked in me until I watched your videos). Me and one of my best friends are now working on getting our licenses so we can go STOL flying, your videos making me realize just how doable it is. I was always afraid of the pressure but you helped make me realize that with practice, I can do it (short field landings were a bit nerve wracking for me in my early learning). Thanks!
There is a Beech 18 on display in a Northern Ontario town at their tourist info centre. I always thought it was a sad end for such a cool old plane. Nice to see there are a few still working for a living.
Awesome educational video.
Thank goodness for veteran in depth knowledge of the aircraft flight systems and controls.
Heres hoping every beginning/novice pilot gets this message..."know your plane" inside and out. I might just save your life, the lives of your passengers and possibly innocent folks on the ground.
correction..."IT MIGHT" oops
Good video! Hopefully everyone watching realizes that things will go wrong, in all facets of life. It's how you recover that makes you who you are. Keep flying!!
That would be terrifying! Way to go Steve! It's been a while and it's really refreshing to see some more good content. Thanks for everything you do, Steve!
Excellent Video!!! Thanks again! Stuck gear, Engine out, Electrical failure, Brakes stuck on one main gear. (That will wake ya right up!) I see them as opportunities to reflect on my training and learn how to deal with things that happen in the normal course of doing what we love to do! As Steveo said Remember the training and execute! However this to shall train you! And it seems to really be effective when you have the fear of god inside you! Hours of boredom punctuated by moments of terror! Best teacher there is!
I'm nothing more than a sim pilot at best, but looking at your videos makes me daydream towards the skies. I love the approach of charing all its glory, including lessons learned! Looking forward to seeing more of your flying! Thank you for sharing the adventures! Happy holidays from Norway :)
that´s an office with amazing view, Terry. I envy you!! See at 7:20
Good show!
The "bad" lessons always seem to end up as the best lessons.
Got my multi in a 63 twin comanche ...that thing was full of gremlins.
Slow-flight training...had the left flap stuck down...*pucker*. Landing gear was a fairly regular issue. Had a main blow out on landing roll. On my commercial/multi cross country, had an engine failure when I switched to the tip tanks...*pucker*...switched back...*unpucker*...gear issue at 1st destination. Unpredicted IMC just after 2nd destination (got IFR). Most of the time, cycling the gear again would resolve the issue. On my check ride, gear issue again...this time I had to lower it by hand.
What a handful of airframe that Beech is . Awesome .
clap,clap,clap. Thanks for being bold enough to put this up.
I love the King Air, they are the Swiss Army knife of turbo props. I’ve got about 700 hours between the King Air C90A & a B100. I’m not even single-engine current/proficient now that I’m flying a Citation Mustang and CJ1. I can’t even remember the last time I’ve set “firewall power” now that I’ve been in the turbine world for awhile. I’m glad you’re enjoying the multi-engine training. You get spoiled with that extra safety net but it can get you into even more trouble if you don’t pay attention at low speeds and low altitudes.
Have been hoping you would fly an 18... my favorite plane. Two round motors, tail dragger, twin stabilizers... old school charm and the sound is fabulous. Hope to see more of this aircraft.
I was going to initially comment how you were at least told you were going to lose an engine this time. And then you were given an entirely different lesson altogether that neither yourself and Dan expected to go through. Great learning points all across!
:)
Super video, fantastic airplane and display of airmanship by the captain
Wow, Steve. I mean, I know that your videos are super awesome, but this one - kudos, man. This was really exciting and I am really glad I could experience it with you - well, sort of.
Happy to share
@1:45 This is what I love about Flight Chops, he just does whatever takes.
Like that Coast Guard video with Steveo where Flight Chops just jumps right in that frigid water, no complaints.... and humble... I think my favorite line this year was in the carbon cub? for short take off and landings (edit or was it the tail dragger?) anyway, when he said "I've flown so many aircraft this year I no longer have a normal" haha that was great !
Glad you're enjoying the adventures! And yeah - that was the STOL flying in the Carbon Cub where I said I didn't have a "comfort zone" :P
Dan Gryder you are an amazing instructor and an awesome pilot. I am glad to know you and so proud for you that you provide so much to the aviation community! I just found this video tonight!!
I had a friend with a Beach 18 back in the 70s. Put new tires on the gear and over inflated them. All was good until once at altitude, the new tires swelled and would not deploy for gear down test. However, once near the ground they became free.
I believe that the actual genealogy of the King Air is as follows: Twin Beech begat the Queen Air begat the King Air. In 1958 Beech manufactured three airplanes: The Bonanza, The Twin Beech (which featured a 3 passenger across bench seat in front, and the venerable 18, which was called The Super 18.
Outstanding. Some day you will be the one giving all those instructions with the same amount of confidence.
Love your videos, never a dull moment! Awesome to see the operations of those old birds, the mechanical workings of those planes are amazing. Keep up the good work.
Super cool to see someone so professional and experienced.
Insanely jealous of all your adventures. A Beech 18 is very high on my bucket list of airplanes that I'd kill to fly.
Excellent video! Experience goes along way, and no matter what fly the airplane.
This video is wonderful for so many ways. I love how I keep learning a lot from your videos, alongside my own progression in aviation, for years. Thank you.
Know your aircraft. A valuable lesson. Glad it all worked out O.K. for you. Thanks.
Great video, super interesting to see the "secrets" of this old plane.
oh man, radials just sounds so awesome! I particularly love the cacophony of a radial start up :D
Awesome! Can’t wait to see the rest of the videos from this trip
Wow! That’s a pilot who knows what he is doing! Clever!
"I'm perfectly comfortable in any emergency aircraft situation" said the lady in a helmet and parachute
Moreover she is a nurse and can administer a CPR to anybody who needs it :D
Dan is a phenomenal instructor - what a switched on guy.
I have 7000 hours in piston and turbine BE18s ..and LOVE the plane - and love this video ;)
What a badass Air force this man has.
I really liked the four camera angles on takeoff. It's fun to see everything going on.
This is an amazing channel for a 13 yr old aspiring pilot like me... amazing videos, and thanks for giving me something to watch after school!
Dan and I have same views on multi engine training; and ability to transfer the info in a simple way.and besides,I love round engines.has natural ability and I'm sure all his students pass on first attempt...part of the "juice" for me...
Bye the bye all my tail wheel time is in a zE 18 with spar mod.freight Dawgs night freight start in B 18 I think....
I was a Beech 18 freight doggie on contract to Emery Air Freight. When you have a schedule, you keep it. Had gear problems. Would shoot approaches knowing I had ineffective gear. No down. Flew anyway. All you have to do is gear lever down, hit clutch with heel, gear drops about 75%. You crank the rest until you get 3 green. No biggie. For up, lever up, crank it up as far as it will go. Over & Back. Wild Bill Callahan. Amazon. You'll learn a lot.
DC-3 mosquito control for the Florida keys. My dad told me it all went well except for a few tv antennas that stuck up to high. Quite the experience flying them old birds
I'D PROBABLY PANIC!!!!!! AND WHEN I'M DONE PANICKING I'D SAY WE'RE DEFINITELY FUCKED!!
As much as I can understand the attraction, and thrill, of flying these kinds of vintage aircraft, this incident is a good example of why there has to come a time when pilots say, "this plane is just too old to keep flying regularly, no matter how well it's been maintained." When we are talking about aircraft that are 50, 60, 70, 80+ years old, that is simply beyond the expected designed lifespan of the aircraft, and it should be retired to a museum, (or scrapyard).
Nothing lasts forever, and everything has it's time...
I used to fly a Beech 18 all the time. I love these airplanes
Many decades ago, my Dad had to belly land his Twin Beach when the landing gear motor smoked and locked up during gear up. Fortunately, the gear was just about completely retracted so damage was relatively minimal. Hand crank would not work because the motor had physically locked up
To me. Mr. Chops, one of the great things you get to do is fly soooo many different planes.
Not a pilot but your video's and experiences make me wish I was. I've watched your vids for a while and this one made me a subscriber. Please keep the content coming!!
Love the Beech 18. I've priced them for a number of years. Hope to own one before 45 as my personal whip. 2000fpm...that's nice right there.
Lol the lady in the back had a huge smile and total confidence in dan. The dude in the back was streaking his pants. And only dan would have known how to drop that gear on that plane. Turn on the breaker, off the motor? Crank the wha?
I remember Mickey Rooney and Buddy Hackett "flying" one of these things.🤜🤛
Incredible instructor
Don't know the guy's name but the trainer is so matter-of-fact. I love it. No BS.
Thanks for another great video Steve. Sorry to hear that Scotty Weißmüller didn't like your channel. I don't think he is a pilot and understands the ramification of flying different airplanes, especially when it's an airplane that you haven't flown before.
Nothing like a real problem to make a flight interesting!
You didn't miss any training you just didn't get the training you expected!
"Work the problem, don't let the problem work you". Bravo Zulu!!
I was amazed how intimidating flying the plane was my first lesson. No amount of sim time prepared me for the noise, sensation and vibration. Everything I thought I knew from flight sims went out the window the moment the engine started. XD
Wow! Love the sound of those Beech 18 engines!
Thanks for the ride ❤️🙏
Dan's the Man! Thanks for a great video...
I enjoy the sound those engines create!
Your training is officially over. Umm, no, that's ALL training and probably cooler information at that! Great video dude!
Love me some Beech 18! Some of the best training comes from situations like this. Great video!