Testing 4 CFIs - Facing the biggest cause of accidents in Aviation

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  • @Jeffrey-Flys
    @Jeffrey-Flys 5 лет назад +736

    seriously Chops. this may be the most impactful video you've ever made and worth every moment of your channel to get here. Thanks to Gold Seal and the team for this. #flySafer

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +25

      Glad you saw the value! We tried really hard to tell this story in an engaging yet tasteful way.

    • @Jeffrey-Flys
      @Jeffrey-Flys 5 лет назад +10

      FlightChops you nailed it

    • @ghhg-je8wv
      @ghhg-je8wv 5 лет назад +5

      Might sound silly, but this is the case with drone pilots as well, and I am gonna refer a few of my friends here to watch.

    • @Officer_Boat
      @Officer_Boat 5 лет назад +11

      I’m a new pilot, just started flying a couple weeks ago and have 5 hrs. This is an absolutely fantastic lesson. Control and focus is definitely something I will now keep in the forefront of my mind from now on. Thanks for this video.

    • @hedegaard8
      @hedegaard8 5 лет назад

      Jeffrey Jensen what? Why?

  • @jraybye
    @jraybye 5 лет назад +138

    As a 64 yr. old student pilot, I'm so grateful for videos like this. It's so easy to be distracted and overwhelmed - I'll remember this good advice!

    • @rsmith155
      @rsmith155 5 лет назад +4

      First - fly the plane

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 5 лет назад

      @@rsmith155 and last.

    • @johncavanagh1000
      @johncavanagh1000 5 лет назад +5

      I flew this morning on my 73rd birthday, you've got a lot to look forward to!

    • @mandarin1257
      @mandarin1257 4 года назад +2

      As a 15 year old who wants to get a pilot's license when I am older, same.

    • @ejanocrowsnatcher6785
      @ejanocrowsnatcher6785 2 года назад

      Aviate, then navigate, then communicate

  • @Taivenmartin15
    @Taivenmartin15 4 года назад +4

    That Instructor is saving lives! My hats off to him, really good man to take his time to teach these young pilots something that could save them one day!

  • @Recovering_Californian
    @Recovering_Californian 5 лет назад +574

    Let's have a brief moment of silence for all the bugs that have lost their lives to GoPro cameras.

    • @MrNeif
      @MrNeif 5 лет назад +26

      They got distracted and lost control

    • @rex8255
      @rex8255 5 лет назад +9

      @@MrNeif I think in case of the bugs, it's more like running into 747 Wake Turbulence in a Cessna 150, and no one explained that to you in Bug School!

    • @rudavalek
      @rudavalek 5 лет назад +2

      Recovering_Californian where the bug got its pilot licence?

    • @gogogeedus
      @gogogeedus 5 лет назад +7

      I wonder what was the last thing on that bugs mind as he hit the camera?anybody?

    • @jefflindeman
      @jefflindeman 5 лет назад +4

      gogogeedus ~well, we can only guess, but chances are pretty good we could break it down to two scenarios, 1) Distracted and he didn't see it coming, in which case, a) hunger and his next meal, or b) he just ate, so horny and his next mate, OR 2) Focused and situationally aware, in which case, "OH F*CK!" 🤔🤣 I think that pretty much covers it; I'll leave it to you to draw any parallel conclusions to the human equivalents. *wink wink nudge nudge say no more squire, say no more....

  • @197SqnATC
    @197SqnATC 5 лет назад +301

    Thanks to the CFIs for being humble and allowing flight chops to share the experience and lesson with us all!

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +26

      Yes - big thanks to those guys for being willing to put themselves out there!

    • @197SqnATC
      @197SqnATC 5 лет назад +15

      @@FlightChops And thank you of course! I don't start my PPL training till later this year but I've already taken away a lot of important fundamentals from your videos. Plus motivation and entertainment!

    • @Coroy2008
      @Coroy2008 5 лет назад +1

      Hell yes

    • @carlsonthomas
      @carlsonthomas 5 лет назад +2

      Always learning and doing your best to be safe! Thank you to all the CFIs for leading the way to safe flight ... all of you ROCK and are awesome pilots! 😎👍🏻

    • @davidf2244
      @davidf2244 4 года назад +4

      I think one of the advantages the kid had was that he wasn't confident. He knew he had no experience in such a big plane, so he did everything he could to level the playing field. That's such a great mindset! Mother Nature and Lady Luck are always against you when you're a pilot! Might as well do everything you can to level the playing field!

  • @1776vtgmb
    @1776vtgmb 4 года назад +3

    When you put the gear down, hold onto the gear control until all the lights are green.
    Then let go. You don't have to look at the lights, just make sure they're all lit before you release the handle.
    A senior retired airline Captain taught me that - and he wasn't an instructor. WillyB

  • @toddrader1698
    @toddrader1698 5 лет назад +418

    Not only are distractions while flying dangerous, but during preflight & maintenance as well.

    • @airgliderz
      @airgliderz 5 лет назад +36

      ... and driving to the airport m ore occupied about the upcoming flight on and on. Life is full of risk management and distraction management.

    • @ze2004
      @ze2004 5 лет назад +2

      @@airgliderz top

    • @harpoon_bakery162
      @harpoon_bakery162 5 лет назад +9

      Todd --- i think this also illustrates how seriously bad texting and driving and/or texting and flying can be. In this day and age, it's a real problem. But you bring up an excellent point in flying as far as preflight/maint. wow, you hit the nail on the head. I'd like the motto to be: "Prepare to fly safe, then absolutely fly safe"

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 5 лет назад +3

      Especially maintenance.

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 5 лет назад +4

      Harpoon_Bakery : There’s just no excuse for texting while controlling a vehicle today. All smartphones support hands free and voice recognition is pretty good these days.

  • @duanebarrett2229
    @duanebarrett2229 5 лет назад +15

    I have been scared to fly my whole life and watching FlightChops Videos are therapeutic and enjoyable! I have flown a few times since subscribing and its getting better! :)

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +6

      I really appreciate this feedback! It is rewarding to hear the videos have helped with your fear.

  • @DrHarryT
    @DrHarryT 5 лет назад +139

    "What’s the biggest killer in Aviation?"
    Gravity.

    • @michaelcawdron3378
      @michaelcawdron3378 5 лет назад +10

      The ground.

    • @eagle49624
      @eagle49624 5 лет назад +6

      What are the top 10 reasons why aviation accidents occur? Take your pick.
      1. Loss of control in flight... Distractions... Disorientation... Inability to fly in unstable air without a 2 axis autopilot...
      2. Controlled flight into terrain... Distractions... Disorientation... Inattentiveness.
      3. Engine failure or other physical flight component failure. Pushing the "mean time between failure" limits... ignoring recommended maintenance intervals...
      4. Operation too close to the ground... Your parents will forgive you, but the ground never will.
      5. Disorientation. Runway incursion. Misunderstanding ATC directions. Failure to communicate. Recency of experience.
      6. VFR into IMC. Failure to do a 180. Thinking VFR on top is a way to get around filing IFR.
      7. Fuel exhaustion or contamination. That clear little plastic cup with the ice pick is important. So is that dip stick you can check the fuel depth with to cross check your fuel gauges. Mistakes are made. To err is human.
      8. Instrument failure resulting in partial panel operation resulting in spatial disorientation and loss of control. Money spent on dual under the hood can save your life.
      9. Midair collisions. Hopefully, ADS-B will reduce this. You never see the one that kills you.
      10. Entry into thunderstorms. Microbursts when landing or taking off. This is either a poor planning issue or poor decision making or rabid get-home-itis.
      Great video!

    • @greenidguy9292
      @greenidguy9292 5 лет назад +6

      The sudden stop at the end....

    • @1919champ
      @1919champ 4 года назад +3

      DrHarryT flying straight and level into mountains does its share also. No gravity involved.

    • @Kimoto504
      @Kimoto504 4 года назад +1

      extremely rapid deceleration.

  • @mjphillips76
    @mjphillips76 5 лет назад

    @Flightchops, I watch the air crash investigations tv shows and they talk about these things in many episodes, I will state I'm not a pilot, but from what I've learned by watching many different tv shows and youtube channels is this:
    The SOP on landing gear failure is this:
    1. declare a mayday,
    2. call the tower for the missed approach
    2. notify for a landing gear indicator failure and ask them to check to see if it's locked,
    3. If they say it looks locked, ask for the trucks just in case, and circle and land,
    4. if it's not locked, ask to rejoin the circuit for a couple of loops to work the problem, aka manual release and locking if your plane has that ability, otherwise call for the trucks and belly flop it.
    Now I might be wrong on a few things in this but the SOP is fly the plane first, navigate the plane , and thirdly communicate, and never fear calling for a mayday.
    I know people are going to say why call a mayday? Because, landing gear failure is a standard SOP to call a mayday.
    After all, Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.

  • @tjf9948
    @tjf9948 5 лет назад +77

    I've got a good one for you Chops, my dad and I were flying our newly acquired 172 with me in the left seat and I had fuel start to run out on my shoulder. Some back story, I'm a 23 y/o student pilot, I have been in and around airplanes for as long as I can remember. This is because my dad has been a pilot since before I was born, he's a commercial multi-engine IFR rated pilot along with A&P and IA. So the story, nice and sunny day but quite windy. We fuel the plane and take off, about 7 miles from the airport he and I start to smell fuel. 8 miles out and I find out where its coming from, the blue stain on the lower part of the headliner above the pilots door is a dead give away. Its was very bumpy up in the air that day and all it took was one more good bump and here comes the fuel. I immediately do a 180 for the airport. This is about the time panic set in for me, I'm still flying but all I can think about is "This is really how you become a flaming lawn dart that everyone jokes about." A few moments later I come back to my senses and ask my dad what we should do, he had already killed the strobes on the wings as they were the only thing that had power. We were full power back to the airport, called the tower to let them know I am coming back and had a small problem but am not declaring emergency. These were the longest minutes I think I have ever experienced in my life, 120 mph has never felt slower, every bump causing me to get more fuel on my already soaked t-shirt. We finally get back to the airport, no flaps because we didn't want to use anything electrical in fear of sparking something off, probably my best landing to date even with no flaps. Once we got back to the hanger and shut down there was a huge since of relief, but me still not realizing the gravity of the situation we were just in. It wasn't until the debrief my dad and I had that I really took it in. But the fundamental lesson of flying had stuck with me; aviate, navigate, communicate. Turns out the rubber line that connects the hard lines for the tank vents between the wing and fuselage had become brittle and broke. I ended up wearing about a gallon and a half of fuel on this trip.
    I think this video is a great lesson to all pilots, young and old, 1 hour or 25,000 hours. Thanks for the reminder Steve!

    • @birdwing98
      @birdwing98 4 года назад +16

      Fuel leaking into the cockpit is not an emergency??? Small problem? WTF? Why taxi to the hangar? Had you acknowledged the actual emergency, you could have exited the plane much sooner. The firefighters would love to get some practice foaming the runway. If you are concerned about shutting down an airport, you could exit the main runway before exiting the plane. If the tower were alerted of the situation, firefighters could have been waiting at the side of runway to extinguish you if you torched off. Why is everyone in GA so afraid of declaring an emergency??? Will you get bad marks on your "permanent record" for declaring an emergency???

    • @MattH-wg7ou
      @MattH-wg7ou 4 года назад +1

      Yea good lesson, thanks for sharing. In 20/20 hindsight its easy to see that yes, that should have been a declared EP but you obviously handled it well! Theres ALWAYS something to learn/improve from EVERY mission/flight. Keep flying, keep learning.

    • @gwencrawford737
      @gwencrawford737 4 года назад +7

      Yeah...
      Another big lesson... DECLARE THE MAYDAY...
      These days, firefighters don't just foam runways... at least here in the US... because it's just wasting foam we might actually need to put the aircraft out, if it lights up after making it to the ground.
      THAT SAID... if everything goes to hell... you want those of us with the nice trucks and funny helmets, ALREADY prepared to enter the runway, and dump foam... you don't want us sitting at the firehouse, completely oblivious to your arrival with a confirmed internal fuel leak.
      Trust me... we don't mind leaving the firehouse to wait on your landing, only to find you had a safe landing and everything worked out okay. That just means we get to write our report and turn around and go back to the station, no muss, no fuss.
      What we DO mind... is when someone has a problem, and DOESN'T call us, until everything's gone to hell in a handbasket, and our training and dedication arrives to the party, too late to do any good. ;)
      Call the mayday EARLY... the earlier you, and WE, get a jump on the problem... the better the chance that everyone can do their bit to ensure the problem ends on a HAPPY note.

  • @terryrutherford2114
    @terryrutherford2114 5 лет назад +1

    This video was so fricking good. So important. CFII are humans too! We all need to continue to learn!

  • @karlsandin4515
    @karlsandin4515 5 лет назад +69

    “They are all human beings” - words of wisdom them self

  • @cdanielh128
    @cdanielh128 5 лет назад

    Taking pride and setting it aside so others can learn from those mistakes in real time or in videos after can be a tough thing to do. We all want to think we are in control when it counts but like the instructor said, we are all human. Thank you to everyone for letting us see your experience and hopefully it opened a few peoples eyes. I hate seeing news that a fully trained experienced pilot loses not only their life but the lives of their passengers and then we find out it was because they got overloaded and distracted. This is a great idea and thanks to Flight Chops for sharing this with the world. Also thanks to Gold Seal and all the others working to make this happen!

  • @deepvoicedaddy4246
    @deepvoicedaddy4246 5 лет назад +7

    So knowing one day I'll try to become a pilot, this information is amazing to know

    • @minecraftwtihclay
      @minecraftwtihclay 5 лет назад

      David Lavender Big thing you will hear is do not stop flying the airplane!

  • @wayneoliver2721
    @wayneoliver2721 4 года назад

    First of all, good topic, good video and thank you to the participants. Well done. To all of you who have commented with the mantra, Aviate Navigate Communicate, you might be missing the point. All the pilots reading this know ANC. All the pilots in this video know ANC. They've known it from maybe their first or second flight. I'll bet their dogs know it, yet most still failed to avoid the distraction. So it isn't as simple as, "Yeah, ANC I knew that." We ALL know it. It's recognizing you're in that perfect situation to be distracted and then not following the rabbit down the hole. It's more like patting your head while rubbing your stomach and not getting the two confused. We all know that takes practice. Just knowing a thing isn't enough. Same is true here; it takes discipline. The solution is not as simple as ANC, if it were we wouldn't be watching this video because there'd be no need for it.

  • @PlaneOldBen
    @PlaneOldBen 5 лет назад +85

    The Swiss cheese model is a great read in relation to this subject, it's never one item that creates a loss of control its a build up of events creating the end result. A really interesting video, Steve.

    • @airgliderz
      @airgliderz 5 лет назад +7

      Bottom line: Failure to fly the plane plane properly. Pilots #1 responsibility is to fly the plane regardless of what controllers want or emergency/distraction going on.

  • @JosephOlson-ld2td
    @JosephOlson-ld2td 4 года назад

    FlightChops & AOPA Air Safety Institute are the best > you learn more from failure, than from success

  • @safeflight9189
    @safeflight9189 5 лет назад +79

    What is impressive about this video is that this failure isn't happening in a 172, or an Arrow, or some other small GA plane. This is a DC-3, a plane that so many of us drool over the chance to command. I guarantee that these CFIs will instruct with a greater appreciation for instruction on Fly The Plane first. Great Topic Flight Chops!!! Thank you.

    • @TheMarioMen1
      @TheMarioMen1 5 лет назад +2

      Safe Flight why would anyone drool over wanting to fly that? It looks like a bus with wings lol I think most people would drool over flying an f-16 or something similar

    • @rubenjanssen1672
      @rubenjanssen1672 5 лет назад +2

      @@TheMarioMen1 in an f16 itr is eve more impooortand becaus everything goes quicker

    • @safeflight9189
      @safeflight9189 5 лет назад +8

      @TheMarioMen1, great comment--thank you. That is exactly what Donald Douglas set out to make when he designed the DC-3, the allure of the aircraft today is that it was designed for commercial travel, then DRAFTED into World War II where it arguably helped usher the end of the war (75th anniversary of D-Day is June 6, 2019), and then returned to commercial and civilian service after the war. On top of that several hundred planes are still in service around the world as the original airframes where made to last.
      If you're watching a FlightChops video, then perhaps you understand this simple truth: Aviation is a community, and while everyone has different flight fantasies (which is why I said "so many of us drool over the chance" rather than "everyone"), we all have a common interest. I can say I'd love to fly an F-16 too, but frankly I don't have the ego or balls big enough to think a few hours in an arcade aerial combat game would make the experience enjoyable.
      Thanks again for the mention.

    • @lizzsszzy7800
      @lizzsszzy7800 5 лет назад

      @@TheMarioMen1 Perhaps a Cirrus SR22T GTS

    • @albertjoseph754
      @albertjoseph754 4 года назад

      I just rewatched this video and read the comments. My dream is to fly a B-17. That or an A-10. My dad worked at Hill AFB with the F-16s. To much reliance on perfectly working computer assisted avionics for my preference.

  • @Lloyd.B
    @Lloyd.B 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, it is easy to get distracted. Recently experienced a decrease in airspeed while answering the landing checklist. That was a good learning moment, just like this video.

  • @JAYAREG
    @JAYAREG 5 лет назад +5

    Thank you Dan and Steve!! I've been a watcher of these videos for a long time and learnt many tricks and tips, but this was a great video with a real message that we can all take advantage of.

  • @Tiwow
    @Tiwow 5 лет назад +2

    Man, I'm jealous of these guys. Such an amazing opportunity!

  • @nameless-sn3tj
    @nameless-sn3tj 5 лет назад +83

    Did this to a student just yesterday. Student called three green with the gear in the wells. Really impressive how easy it is.

    • @Skyfighter64
      @Skyfighter64 5 лет назад +18

      As a mechanic at a flight school, one of the most annoying situations I've had to deal with is recovering an aircraft from a gear up landing... Well, it wasn't exactly a gear up landing, more the student wasn't used to flying a Piper Seneca, with a different cockpit layout from a 152. So when the instructor told him to raise the flaps, which is a handle between the seats on a Seneca, he grabbed the landing gear handle and raised the gear during the landing roll (The landing gear handle is pretty much where a Cessna pilot would reach to raise the flaps in a 152).
      The worst part about it, is that Seneca had just the day before, completed the "Post-buy" inspection... Good news is that the aircraft is still in service, and we haven't had a gear up landing since.

    • @nameless-sn3tj
      @nameless-sn3tj 5 лет назад +6

      @@Skyfighter64 Ouch. And that is the reason that no configuration changes should be made on the roll. I hope that policy resulted from the accident.
      You have to be really careful messing with the gear. Metal work, prop, and an engine overhaul is expensive!

    • @Skyfighter64
      @Skyfighter64 5 лет назад +5

      @@nameless-sn3tj We haven't had a landing gear incident of that nature in about a year. Most recent issue we had to recover an aircraft off the Runway for was a basic flat (172M, Right Main). That was on Thursday (4/25/19). Even that has been simplified in this past year for us, in we now have multiple spare wheels ready, so all we have to do is take off the brake caliper backing plate, take out the axle nut cotter pin, put a floorjack under the strut, pull the axle nut, put the spare tire on, screw on the axle nut, and tow the aircraft back to the hangar. It sounds like a bunch of work, but we can recover an aircraft like that in less than 10 minutes from the word "go."

    • @michaelcanart
      @michaelcanart 5 лет назад

      Some pilots will say yes to anything!

    • @feetgoaroundfullflapsC
      @feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 лет назад +1

      @@Skyfighter64 - That CFI is an idiot.. You dont put a dummy c152 student to raise the gear without verifying he is doing the right thing..

  • @thercproject9309
    @thercproject9309 5 лет назад +2

    this video was ridiculously well put together, GREAT work love what your doing

  • @albertbatfinder5240
    @albertbatfinder5240 5 лет назад +49

    There is always a mental drain of nervous energy in new situations. Flying a DC3 for the first time, with cameras and commentary and the whole sense of occasion, would have added cognitive distraction to the already planned distraction. Thank you to the CFIs for sharing the day with us.

  • @ProfessionalPilot
    @ProfessionalPilot 5 лет назад

    The "Manual" has been written in blood. We need to learn from those who have gone before. Thank you for this video. As an aspiring GA pilot (waiting on a spot to open up at my local field) this is something I will keep in the back of my mind when I have my first "event" in the cockpit.

  • @ericgirardet1848
    @ericgirardet1848 5 лет назад +49

    The old saying, Aviate, navigate, communicate look simple but when things goes wrong, it’s not easy to stay focus on your primary task, fly the plane. Great video!

    • @texstar77
      @texstar77 5 лет назад

      Knew somebody had to already have said it!!

  • @atlanticiacomjr9951
    @atlanticiacomjr9951 5 лет назад +1

    Brilliant way to draw attention to a really important point. Great content as usual.

  • @jamiecoburn1231
    @jamiecoburn1231 5 лет назад +21

    If watching experienced CFIs make fundamental errors doesn't make a pilot break into a cold sweat.....Wow!
    We are NEVER done learning!
    Amazing video Steve! A special thanks to the CFIs sharing their moments!

  • @brokespoke5424
    @brokespoke5424 4 года назад

    Wow thank you for this video and excellent massage. Hopefully everyone knows it's not just for flying.

  • @vorden25
    @vorden25 5 лет назад +70

    Trucking could learn from this a lot of truck drivers are killed by distractions.

    • @Benedocta
      @Benedocta 5 лет назад +7

      But I would say it's less because of some external events and more because of boredom.

    • @peterk2455
      @peterk2455 5 лет назад +7

      Far more car drivers: by radio, hp, the passenger/s, looking for an address or shop, a parking space, the scenery etc etc. Overall many look, but don't see, don't identify potential hazards. Truck drivers id hazards constantly, most are professionals.

    • @MrPepper312
      @MrPepper312 5 лет назад +3

      As a skydiver and trucker I been hurt a few times. Once I feel off my flatbed and shattered my elbow and another time a trailer door came off while closing it and broke my shoulder and countless close calls avoiding traffic. But 20 years of skydiving no problem.

    • @jimnew5813
      @jimnew5813 5 лет назад +5

      @Fuzzy Butkus You tell'um Fuzzy, if anything it's the four wheel drivers who get distracted especially since everyone is glued to their cellphones all the time. I was a crane operator 20 years and drove some truck cranes weighing 120000 pounds plus. Then I had two tractors and contracted to a Chemical tank company. Never got a ticket or had an accident except the time a front axle broke on a 25 ton truck crane and the left front wheel turned ninety degrees to the left and I was just along for the ride at fifty miles per hour into the concrete barrier along an expressway. One other close one was when I was rounding a curve with an empty eighteen wheel tanker and a car was stopped in my lane of a two lane country highway, then he started to make a U turn on the road . I didn't hit the brakes just steered left all the way across the highway into the grass with all 18 wheels then back on the road preventing killing all aboard the car, I hope it scared him as much as it did me. Most people don't know the skill it takes to operate these 80000 pound vehicles, they just cuss us for being in the way or cut in front of us and slam on their brakes to teach us a lesson.Sorry for the long post .

    • @jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301
      @jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301 4 года назад

      vorden25, The biggest distraction in cars is the passenger. Same in buses and coaches - the friend or colleague who insists on engaging the driver in conversation. But then again, not having a passenger can be dangerous too - the long-distance coach or truck driver who dozes off or falls ill. At least in the air there's the pilot monitoring to take over the controls . . .

  • @mattguthmiller
    @mattguthmiller 5 лет назад +41

    Dan's full of great advice! Couple of those shots look pretty familiar too ;)

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +7

      Haha - yeah - thanks for grabbing me those clips about Dan’s tough back story while you were rocking your SIC training!

    • @ForFunFlyer
      @ForFunFlyer 5 лет назад +2

      :)

  • @watchgoose
    @watchgoose 4 года назад +1

    I might have thought "complacency". learned something.

  • @hangfried9429
    @hangfried9429 5 лет назад +4

    Haha, love the last question. I was sitting here wondering how he got the yellow light.

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +3

      Thanks for watching to the end :)

  • @lostintheprobabilityfield1070
    @lostintheprobabilityfield1070 5 лет назад

    Another great way to stay in control is to keep your ego on the ground.. Be less worried about impressing anyone and more focused on what is actually happening. The most impressive pilot is the one who safely terminates the flight, no matter what else is going on. But like he said, we're all human.

  • @DonMeaker
    @DonMeaker 3 года назад +8

    The three most dangerous things at the airport are
    1. Lawyer flying the Beechcraft Bonanza
    2. Engine mechanic right out of high school
    3. The stewardess with the chipped tooth.

    • @crazyforce1102
      @crazyforce1102 3 года назад +1

      This is a funny comment, graduated HS this year and about to get my A&P license from Aviation High school.

    • @DonMeaker
      @DonMeaker 3 года назад

      @@crazyforce1102 Good A&P technicians are gold!

  • @amcconnell6730
    @amcconnell6730 4 года назад +14

    "Shove the stick forward" is underratd in aviation. Stalling? Shove the stick forward. Loss of thrust? Shove the stick forward. Rolling in wake turbulence? Shove the stick forward (unloading the wings increases roll rate). Flying is unnatural - shoving the stick forward stops you trying to do the unnatural. :D

    • @easygoing2479
      @easygoing2479 4 года назад +1

      That is a great observation... force yourself - with the stick - into the thinking (and flying) mode rather than a panic mode.

    • @jackfrost2146
      @jackfrost2146 4 года назад +2

      @@easygoing2479 My instructor's favorite saying was "Forward to fly--back to die."

  • @User-dd2xv
    @User-dd2xv 5 лет назад +23

    This social responsibility, your videos inspire a lot of people to get into flying but this is a video highlights the issue of getting distracted and how to overcome it. Thank you Flight Chops

  • @NETBotic
    @NETBotic 5 лет назад +1

    I love these video 'refreshers' on hot topics like this.

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +1

      Awesome - glad you enjoyed it!

  • @InopGauge
    @InopGauge 5 лет назад +20

    Great video. I learned this lesson early on as a student. We had just become airborne when my door became ajar in a c150. My first thought was to try to slam it shut again and my instructor instantly informed me that my job was to fly the aircraft above everything else. He let me know that we would worry about the door once we'd gained some altitude and leveled off. Can see where I could have quickly become distracted and stalled the aircraft at low altitude.

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +10

      Yes - one of my early instructors snuck his arm behind my seat on a take off and popped my window open in a 172 - scared the heck out of me, but I stayed focussed on flying and he gave me a high five.

    • @goneflying140
      @goneflying140 4 года назад

      My C150 instructor intentionally popped his door open after takeoff. He expected me to freak out. I never even looked away from the panel. I just said "is that your door?", he said yes, and you handled it perfectly. We flew the pattern, landed without issue, he closed the door and away we went.

  • @bennybenitez2461
    @bennybenitez2461 5 лет назад

    Hey Flight Chops we the Eastern Airlines Flight 401 Tribute Group are to establish a Memorial to EAL Flt 401 and CRM which came from the lost of EAL-401 would enjoy to hear from you.

  • @ParanormalTraptivity
    @ParanormalTraptivity 5 лет назад +156

    The first CFI to fly is my current CFI. Knew he’d kill it!

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +30

      Right on that's awesome!

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 5 лет назад +5

      Great choice of words. Haha

    • @feetgoaroundfullflapsC
      @feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 года назад +5

      How could a student judge a CFI? They know little. All students say their CFI is very good.

    • @oldtimehockey7324
      @oldtimehockey7324 4 года назад

      5feetgoaround fullflapsC150 i was.

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule 4 года назад +10

      @@feetgoaroundfullflapsC The same way I knew my high school physics teacher was an ace - he didn't just tell - he taught.

  • @jimnew5813
    @jimnew5813 5 лет назад

    Great video, distractions will certainly kill you. Good example is the Eastern L1011 that flew into the everglades while three pilots in the cockpit were fooling with an indicator light and knocked the autopilot off therefore nobody was flying the plane.

  • @neatstuff8200
    @neatstuff8200 5 лет назад +10

    First thing you learn in aviation is to avigate, navigate, communicate. Make sure you don't confuse those and you'll be okay.

  • @MikeKobb
    @MikeKobb 5 лет назад

    Great job Steve and Dan. Valuable lesson. Kudos to the CFIs for managing to keep things safe even in the face of deliberate distraction attempts. I've definitely experienced a few "helmet fires," and it's really easy to get saturated and/or focus on the wrong things.

  • @Wolficorntv
    @Wolficorntv 5 лет назад +9

    Great video Steve. Definitely will remind me that despite inevitable distractions that will occur...always fly the plane. Basic but easily forgotten.

  • @GreyGhost-r4z
    @GreyGhost-r4z 4 года назад +2

    The biggest killer in Aviation are CEO's that don't know how to run Airlines but still make 80 million dollars serving themselves instead of actually serving the needs of the organization.

  • @marclowe724
    @marclowe724 5 лет назад +35

    My CFI did this (unintentionally) once. Spot on.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 5 лет назад

      Reminds me of engine out training, where the instructor will just randomly pull the throttle on you without warning.
      But I guess that's a slightly bigger issue than the more subtle thing this video is about...

    • @marclowe724
      @marclowe724 5 лет назад

      @@KuraIthys That happened for me as well. I had "turned off" the avionics (and the instructor turned off the radio) and I couldn't figure out why I couldn't radio out, all the while I was losing altitude.

  • @brycenew
    @brycenew 3 года назад

    Absolute GOLD!!! Great training & video! Thank you :D

  • @kylejenkin6567
    @kylejenkin6567 5 лет назад +12

    Great video and great topic. I recently had an event where I had a complete electrical failure on t/o. This caused my electric fuel pressure gauge to fail ( obviously) and I was so distracted watching this electric gauge fail, along with a radio failure and hydraulic failure. I actually said out loud, "fly the plane". In hindsight, it was a really simple problem that got complicated very quickly. Well done!

  • @ccacrislan
    @ccacrislan 5 лет назад

    great video and learning opportunity about distractions...

  • @youngavaitor
    @youngavaitor 5 лет назад +11

    met u at sun-n-fun i volunteer out their every yr work out on the flight line marshalling aircraft around the field follow your chnnel since 3,000 subscrbers great to see how much youve growns as a pilot and a utuber

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for sticking around since the start!

  • @celestialdream49
    @celestialdream49 5 лет назад +2

    What a GREAT Video !! I do have one complaint, I grinned so much my cheeks hurt !! : )

  • @Aero360Aviation
    @Aero360Aviation 5 лет назад +29

    Steve this was one of the best videos you have put out in a long time (and all your videos are awesome) - I love the message and the methods here. Definitely something that needs to be talked about and addressed! I also love the idea of giving away something of value - not just a joyride - but a learning experience with life long value.

  • @compavion
    @compavion 5 лет назад

    This is eye widening. Thanks as always!

  • @bennettt4404
    @bennettt4404 5 лет назад +6

    Yeah the transferring of controls on short final or on the rollout can be tricky. During my tailwheel training, my instrtuctor mentioned an incident with a student of hers previous. They were literally going into the round out and she said something to the effect like "I'm going to add a touch of power", and the student interpreted that as her taking controls (his fault). After the touchdown she took rudders and said "Nice job not bad"... to which he responded "I let go of the controls when you added the power". Essentially the citabria landed itself... good times.

    • @bennettt4404
      @bennettt4404 5 лет назад

      @stromsky58 Yeah with the right pitch and trim it's absolutely doable. The 172 I fly can be landed with the electric trim with a well timed round out + power idle. Good times!

  • @kdawson020279
    @kdawson020279 3 года назад

    Having Dan as an instructor should make you feel safer. Out of all the content creators I follow for GA, [Except maybe Juan] Dan gives more and asks for less than anyone on the platform. He's one of the few people that doesn't monetize. There's nothing wrong with monetization, but nothing but respect for his AQP recommendations and willingness to butt heads with the NTSB. Dan asks for nothing in return but:
    --Don't die in an a preventable GA crash
    --Learn from the mistakes of others to accomplish not dying through discussing accidents and getting AQP
    --Listen to him playing his guitar or banjo.
    Great video, and excellent footage. Be safe, stay alive, and get old enough to be an airplane safety curmudgeon like Dan.
    Just kidding, Dan, you do great things!

  • @redmondworkshops5181
    @redmondworkshops5181 5 лет назад +5

    This was a great video. It is probably one of my favorites. I am not a pilot but someday hope to be. Even though I'm not a pilot I really enjoy your videos and watch all of them. Keep up the good work.

  • @donaldshaffer9275
    @donaldshaffer9275 5 лет назад

    It’s never one thing it’s a rolling snowball of 5 or more mistakes or indecisiveness. Stop the trouble before 5 and you prevent the accident

  • @eddyson2638
    @eddyson2638 5 лет назад +8

    Great video, thanks to all of you for highlighting the loss of control issue and the CFII's prepared to show that all of us are human and can therefore make mistakes! Very humbling.

  • @gregmaggielipscomb9246
    @gregmaggielipscomb9246 4 года назад

    T/Y for this learning video, good job!

  • @donaldparlettjr3295
    @donaldparlettjr3295 5 лет назад +8

    I have always said FLY THE ACFT FIRST. I lost partial power once on a climb out dodging treetops all the way. My instructor kept saying " FLY THE PLANE, FLY THE PLANE!!" I promise you I learned that lesson. A great video showing we all can get distracted.

    • @airgliderz
      @airgliderz 5 лет назад +1

      ... as your distracted watching this video slamming into a tree...

    • @bkailua1224
      @bkailua1224 5 лет назад +2

      I add a little more "Fly the airplane you are flying today!" not the airplane you were flying last week or yesterday.

    • @airgliderz
      @airgliderz 5 лет назад +1

      @@bkailua1224 kinda like drive your car to the airport nut thinking about flying that day, but concentrating on driving, or not the cute girl on the XH orner as you drive by....

  • @MikeyMcBryan
    @MikeyMcBryan 5 лет назад +2

    But why is it called a Hamburger door? ;)

    • @fly4fun610
      @fly4fun610 5 лет назад

      LOL You should ask that fellow over on the Plane Savers channel. His name is... Whoa Mikey! Is that you? :)

  • @jimhayes2786
    @jimhayes2786 5 лет назад +9

    Amazing video. Seriously, no one was laughing about the missed 3 green, I did that with an instructor once. We have an expectation bias and when overloaded it is VERY easy to see things the way we expect.

  • @BradMore
    @BradMore 5 лет назад

    +1 for situational awareness

  • @Beffudled
    @Beffudled 5 лет назад +6

    I had a loss of control situation in the sim the other day. Best place to have it. Was a definite learning moment. My instructor gave me a runaway trim, and I hit the AP DC, but while I was looking for the breaker to pull (I usually fly a non AP N model) and while I was distracted I nearly stalled out on departure. Regained control flew the plane and found the breaker after I was stabilized.

  • @30769s
    @30769s 5 лет назад +1

    always fly the plane first. Thats what my dad and my instructor always tells me. Fly the plane first then troubleshoot the issue

  • @shoop4040
    @shoop4040 5 лет назад +6

    What an AMAZING VIDEO-- this is scary and informative. It makes you even think about scenarios outside the aviation world and how it relates to many other facets of life. It also makes me ponder how many of GA and airline pilots how ready are they really ..Thank you Gold Seal amazing work ...

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +3

      Yes, definitely a high five to Gold Seal for giving us the freedom to pull this concept together!

  • @Mike-01234
    @Mike-01234 5 лет назад +1

    I was watching another video on light sport aircraft had higher rate of crashing because of light wing loading caused controls to be overly sensitive . I always thought lighter wing loading was better because stall speeds would be lower.

    • @ForFunFlyer
      @ForFunFlyer 5 лет назад

      Well, it all depends. I fly LSA's for over a decade and can safely say they're just as safe as bigger GA aircraft. But -yes-, they can be light on the controls, which I personally like a lot... ;) Check out my channel for some LSA and MLA flying vids, perhaps you'll enjoy it...

  • @TheCanadianBubba
    @TheCanadianBubba 5 лет назад +6

    When i think back to all my instructors (not flight) who had a certain "thing" they seemed overly sensitive about, but they never open up and said why... now those "things" make perfect sense.
    Sorry to hear about Brock, hope Dan gets to incorporate the lesson in each and every student. Like he said, if it keeps even one more of those incidents from happening it is well worth it.

  • @Videoctr
    @Videoctr 5 лет назад

    Much respect!

  • @OGjoe
    @OGjoe 5 лет назад +8

    its refreshing to watch good people doing good things and having good fun. I don't fly, I never will, but I enjoy watching your videos so much. Thanks for what you do!

  • @speedomars
    @speedomars 3 года назад

    The term 'loss of control' is like saying you crashed your car because something got in your way. The biggest killer in GA is failing to maintain coordinated and controlled flight. How can an aircraft fail to fly? Exceeding critical angle of attack, running out of fuel, experience a catastrophic mechanical problem, allowing terrain to intervene in your flight path, hit another aircraft/birds, or exceed the structure of the airframe causing damage to a control surface.

    • @speedomars
      @speedomars 3 года назад

      @Mike MCbain You mean CFIT, Controlled Flight Into Terrain. Seems like an oxymoron doesn't it? But that's how it happens. Pilots are in control of the flight and they fly the plane right into a mountain. You see these things all the time...sad.

  • @clearair
    @clearair 5 лет назад +6

    Awesome work Steve. Having survived (as a passenger) a potentially fatal loss of control accident just after takeoff, there is a need for more awareness of this subject. Good job 👍

  • @RoryOnAir
    @RoryOnAir 5 лет назад +3

    Bloody brilliant Steve. Your films are a class act, they really are. It highlights why my instructor used to drill in the phrase; ‘whatever happens, fly the aeroplane’.

  • @Parr4theCourse
    @Parr4theCourse 5 лет назад +7

    Great video and even better lesson for us all, even more so when very experienced pilots (CFI's) can be human too!!!!

  • @mikeseguin6443
    @mikeseguin6443 5 лет назад +51

    People who drive and text or talk on cell phones are somewhat in the same scenario.Distracted and loss of control.A very good eye opening video.

    • @brandoncaldwell95
      @brandoncaldwell95 5 лет назад +4

      I had a guy driving over 100 mph, almost rear ended a semi and the caller complaining. When we stopped him, he was watching a movie... No joke, litterally watching a movie... Ive had my fair share of cases almost being run off the road because of people on the phone. It bugs the crap out of me. Sadly, they will never learn till a life is taken or they wreck becuase of it.

    • @veritasestveritas8646
      @veritasestveritas8646 5 лет назад

      The various DMVs out there should have, as a mandatory test, a simulator that puts you through different distracted scenarios as you drive, including cell phone interaction.

    • @COIcultist
      @COIcultist 5 лет назад

      @@veritasestveritas8646 Just don't be an idiot, don't use your phone in the car. Even hands free with anything more complex than "Hello I'm driving I'll call back later" is dangerous. The more complex the call the greater the distraction. Why is it more distracting than an in car conversation? I have no idea but it is. Gwent Police made a great film about texting whilst driving but the full version is hard to find on RUclips. ruclips.net/video/00dMnkIgCmw/видео.html Really clever technique at the beginning to stop you waiting for the "bad" thing to happen because you're waiting for this, knowing the film was made by the police.

    • @rsmith155
      @rsmith155 5 лет назад

      Yeah just as dumb, but on the road you have no altitude to work with

    • @Indarow
      @Indarow 4 года назад

      Anytime I see an "only idiots get distracted" comment I cringe.
      All of us are capable of it, anybody who says they're NOT is the true idiot.
      I generally think of myself as an OK driver, but I know I've done it. I crashed while changing the radio. Everybody was moving at normal freeway speed, I looked over to change the station and when i looked back up everyone was full on their brakes. All it takes is a split second.
      I've done my best to learn from the experience and haven't done it since.

  • @BackyardBeeKeepingNuevo
    @BackyardBeeKeepingNuevo 5 лет назад +5

    I am going driving today. Loss of control and situational awareness due to distraction is one of the major causes of car accidents. Thanks for the reminder. Fly and drive safe.

  • @vwav8tr
    @vwav8tr 5 лет назад

    Great Video! Will incorporate this into my Bonanza Training. Keep up the good work.

  • @randallreed9048
    @randallreed9048 3 года назад +4

    And, BTW, that young kid--CFI, I mean--is special. I predict he will go far. Wonderful to see that talent so young.

    • @chad1755
      @chad1755 3 года назад

      Certainly having training fresh in your mind and not having had thousands of repetitive hours to lull you into complacency helps too. I think that was the problem with the guy who called "gear down" out of habit when it wasn't.

  • @padraicmcgraw
    @padraicmcgraw 5 лет назад +6

    Hey, remember that time you blew a cub off the runway?... I don't know why I keep thinking about this... Good times...

    • @stephenrich3029
      @stephenrich3029 5 лет назад +1

      Padraic McGraw they mention that around 2:07

    • @padraicmcgraw
      @padraicmcgraw 5 лет назад +1

      @@stephenrich3029 yes it is mentioned a lot..

  • @ZENMASTERME1
    @ZENMASTERME1 5 лет назад +8

    Obviously the biggest killer in aviation is the ground! 🙄

    • @andymadden8183
      @andymadden8183 5 лет назад +2

      It is probably also physically the biggest as well.

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 5 лет назад

      Heh water does the job just as well, pretty much attempting to sumo wrestle with a planet is a bad idea it's way out of your weight class.

  • @kianbustamante4773
    @kianbustamante4773 5 лет назад +2

    0:01 i thought you were giving away that plane

  • @koldaunas5374
    @koldaunas5374 5 лет назад +8

    Oh boy! A new FlightChops video!

  • @dickjohnson4268
    @dickjohnson4268 5 лет назад +1

    The Nall report has pilots as the biggest killer. Unfortunately. Too many pilots that I knew are no longer with us. Regardless of their experience level.

  • @Ramiiam
    @Ramiiam 5 лет назад +58

    The old dudes were failing, while the kid came through with flying colors.

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +13

      They actually all did fine. the one guy got to 80 and needed the reminder to get the nose down, the other guy that I didn't show go through the whole scenario got just under 90, but it was bumpy and I didn't get the shot of the ASI - so that is why I just left in his debrief as they were climbing out.

    • @FlightX101
      @FlightX101 5 лет назад +3

      @@FlightChopsIt makes sense honestly. As a young student or CFI these tasks are drilled into your head on nearly every flight. Overtime pilots can become overly comfortable with their aircraft especially if it has a spotless maintenance record

    • @Zerbey
      @Zerbey 5 лет назад +6

      He didn't fail, he very briefly let his speed drop then got it back in control. Easy to be an armchair investigator.

    • @Ramiiam
      @Ramiiam 5 лет назад +3

      @@Zerbey How low would his speed have dropped if the guy in the right seat had not spoken up? The parameter of the exercise was: No lower than 90. So yeah, 80 is a fail.

    • @klusonwan
      @klusonwan 5 лет назад +4

      Wouldn't failing be losing control and crashing the plane? Everyone passed I guess lol.

  • @JonHeckendorf
    @JonHeckendorf 5 лет назад +2

    NEVER stop flying the plane. All the way to the ground. Distractions happen all the time. Dwelling on the distraction(s) for too long could cause you to stop flying the plane, stall, then spin, and crash if close to the ground. Fly the plane while thinking about correcting the problem(s) in your mind prior to acting. The act of looking is the distraction so stop looking, dwelling. Your focus must be looking at what is important to flying the plane like looking outside while glancing at the primary flight instruments.

  • @VERANTESDEVOLAR
    @VERANTESDEVOLAR 5 лет назад +3

    Awesome video !! Incredible lesson on my next flight ! Keep em sharing more great videos! Saludos

  • @musoseven8218
    @musoseven8218 5 лет назад

    Really helpful, insightful, thanks!

  • @randallreed9048
    @randallreed9048 3 года назад +4

    Dan is clearly a very special human being. He cares. He has his ego safely tucked away. He is one empathetic instructor. Thank you for sharing!

  • @KingSchools
    @KingSchools 5 лет назад +2

    Wow what a great illustration! Loss Of Control is a big area of improvement for all areas of aviation, particularly GA.

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite 5 лет назад +3

    This is why I love your channel, Steve - I'm always learning here! Excellent topic and production!👍👍

  • @gregizzo8349
    @gregizzo8349 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for that video Steve. Even after 20 years of flying, this is always a refreshing reminder to stay focused on flying and procedures. Complacency or reliant on functionality can get you into a tight space or worse quickly! Great video!

  • @christianterry2197
    @christianterry2197 5 лет назад +4

    Ahh I didn’t see you at Sun N Fun; maybe this fall at Oshkosh. Love your videos, i watch them whenever i’m not flying!

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  5 лет назад +2

      Yes for sure! Watch for the Osh meet up schedule on Flightchops dot com and the various socials

  • @glock19gen3
    @glock19gen3 5 лет назад +2

    How can 13 people down vote this, seriously!?

    • @ericscaillet2232
      @ericscaillet2232 5 лет назад

      Human nature....there's always one,or more 😉

  • @lt4324
    @lt4324 5 лет назад +4

    All I can say is you have the life most envy and or dream of on YT! GREAT VIDEO! Keep'em coming! Tom in NV

  • @jeffhoser7717
    @jeffhoser7717 5 лет назад +2

    Great video ! Reality in the cockpit is aways a learning experience ! Also a great perspective on the current 737 Max issues ! Winnowing out the corporate/manufacturer issues reports I'm reading show a cockpit crew not " situationally aware " enough to hand fly the airplane out of danger . TBS they were ambushed by a vicious tiger their traiing said ws caged but didn't the them it could escape ! And it did, multiple times, resuting in the loss of two aircraft .

  • @theleeharveyoswaldexperien1883
    @theleeharveyoswaldexperien1883 5 лет назад +4

    As a soon to be student pilot, I am glad to have seen this video before starting training

  • @mandarin1257
    @mandarin1257 4 года назад +3

    10:13 "I wanted you to lose control"
    I love the shocked expression on the poor guy's face.

  • @juliogotay1
    @juliogotay1 5 лет назад +3

    Distractions like the instructor's supple lips. Who did the make up really