In 15:49 I have a different perspective. In Chinese culture, because we tend to be more reserved and indirect when expressing our feelings, we have developed a wider range of words to convey emotions. It depends on the individual’s choice of words and whether they are precise enough, but in Chinese or Japanese culture, we often consider not being too direct as a way to communicate thoughtfully, even if it sometimes means sacrificing a bit of accuracy.
I agree with you!! We do have huge amount of words to express our feelings and emotions!!! When I heard what she said,I felt offended and disrespected…
I disagree with the guest who mentioned that Chinese language is lack of vocabulary in term of express themselves. If you were an advanced learner, it would change your perception of the language.
I totally agree with you! She find it easier to express herself in English simply because she has learned more English vocabulary and much less Mandarin vocabulary. It is not because Mandarin language has less vocabulary in emotional expression or Chinese culture is passive and unexpressive. Her understanding is simply too shallow. She is entitle to her opinion, but her statements can mislead other people to misunderstand the Mandarin language and Chinese culture. In terms of Taiwanese (Chinese culture) tends to be reserved, passive, and "too polite" in communication; it is just a stereotype from her own personal experience in Taiwan. It is just like of like saying Americans are loud and rude. Or saying Germans are rigid and cold, which is untrue. Stereotype is a generalization which lacks accuracy and truth. Someone who has been traveling and living in so many different countries and cultures, shouldn't have this kind of narrow perspective. While she is brilliant in learning different languages, it is very disappointing to hear her express the way she did. Knowing how to operate the mechanics of languages, does not mean she has the depth in effective communication.
She worked in the market from the very beginning which is totally different from the academic ways. I don't know her other languages. But her spoken Mandarin is really okay. But the 6 months should be just okay to sell the specific items as she works for a vender. You might be able to find the RUclips video how she speaks Mandarin at that time. It's a TV interview. She has working holiday visa at that time.
As someone who speaks both English and Mandarin (among 2 other languages), I disagree on her comment about the lack of Chinese vocabulary to describe one's emotions. The beauty of the Chinese language lies in the fact that there's actually many ways to express one's feelings, unless you are lacking fluency in it. You can even use poetry to express it. Chinese also succinctly describes something in a visual way, eg. 鸟语花香， try creating the visual image in the same way with an english expression. An analogy to this is how the same type of every meat in Chinese cuisine can be prepared in multiple ways, eg, grilled, steamed, bbq, stir fried, etc.
I feel like what she said is a bit weird and misleading. First, how could she claim she'd learned Mandarin in six months when she actually didn't know any characters at that time? And I guess neither did she master the tones. Second, it's so embarrassing that she said there's no such words as hurt, uncomfortable and ashamed in Chinese to express feelings after learning Chinese for more than 10 years. I mean, there's a lot and all you need is a dictionany. Can't believe what I heard. Just because people don't express their feelings quite often or you are not aware of the phrases, doesn't mean there're no such words. Be humble and modest please. Also you can never say you master oral Mandarin unless you get the tones right, at least 90% of them. For those who are learning Chinese or any other languages, don't be misled by this. You've got a long way to go and be well prepared.
Totally agree! As a Vietnamese- Chinese i would say she doesn't not master the tones at all haha it's easy to recognize when she said some simple phrases like hello, goodbye in my mother tongue. It sounds funny like all the white guys, who struggle to master the tones. Even as a native speaker, i don't dare to claim that i can master it. Her tone when she said "ni hao" reminds me all the times i got racism in Germany :)) all random stupid racists have the same tone :)). Sorry, but to be a polyglot you have a long journey to chase, don't mislead :)) Learn how to be humble is also import :))
I think she's adopted the technique hyperbole in that regard. Using the word "master" is really an overstatement because I've learned English over the past 30 years and I don't even claim to have mastered this foreign language even though I'm already quite fluent in it as a non-native speaker. I live and breathe it day in day out..
I guess she only learns from daily conversation. It might be true that people don't express feeling of hurt, uncomfortable and ashamed in Chinese (though I think it's not like NEVER), but it's just wrong to say that and even the host agrees to her???
I totally agree with you! She find it easier to express herself in English simply because she has learned more English vocabulary and much less Mandarin vocabulary. It is not because Mandarin language has less vocabulary in emotional expression or Chinese culture is passive and unexpressive. Her understanding is simply too shallow. She is entitle to her opinion, but her statements can mislead other people to misunderstand the Mandarin language and Chinese culture. In terms of Taiwanese (Chinese culture) tends to be reserved, passive, and "too polite" in communication; it is just a stereotype from her own personal experience in Taiwan. It is just like of like saying Americans are loud and rude. Or saying Germans are rigid and cold, which is untrue. Stereotype is a generalization which lacks accuracy and truth. Someone who has been traveling and living in so many different countries and cultures, shouldn't have this kind of narrow perspective. While she is brilliant in learning different languages, it is very disappointing to hear her express the way she did. Knowing how to operate the mechanics of languages, does not mean she has the depth in effective communication.
It’s actually Taiwanese culture but not Chinese culture, if you have beeen living in Taiwan for more then 10 years, to notice the difference and the correct words it should be helpful and respectful. ：）
我以前英文老師說過，至少先找你同等程度的內容才學。成功感會更高之餘會令你提高學習興趣。我不能說六個月應令人可變為流利，但至少基本溝通已可以做到，其他的如可能表達一些東西或情景時真係要好長時間才可達成目標。不過講者有點是對的，就算普遍亞洲人包括我以前也很怕錯所以不太敢溝。但令我轉變的是因我現在在英國生活後，雖然未必完完全全達到流利。但不停錯誤不停當試（try and error) 的確會令你進步很多。
Michelle, you find it easier to express yourself in English simply because you have learned more English vocabulary and much less Mandarin vocabulary. It is not because Mandarin language has less vocabulary in emotional expression or Taiwanese (or Chinese) culture is passive and unexpressive. Your understanding is simply too shallow. You are entitle to your opinion, but your statements can mislead other people to misunderstand the Mandarin language and Taiwanese culture. In terms of Taiwanese (or Chinese) culture tends to be reserved, passive, and "too polite" in communication; it is just a stereotype from your own personal experience in Taiwan. It is just like of like saying Americans are loud and rude, or saying Germans are rigid and cold, which are untrue. Stereotype is a generalization which lacks accuracy and truth. Someone who has been traveling and living in so many different countries and cultures, shouldn't have this kind of narrow perspective. While you are brilliant in learning different languages, it is very disappointing to hear you express the way you did. Knowing how to operate the mechanics of languages, does not mean you have the depth in effective communication. You are far from "mastered" the Mandarin (Chinese) language. This you must know.
Michelle的想法與行動真的另我很感動，我覺得他真的是很親切的女生，而且多年前新聞報導他在板橋賣紅豆餅時我當時有去買，她知道我們是特別過去買紅豆餅，還跟我們合照，非常的親切
原來她就是那位賣紅豆餅的女孩（驚艷）❤
選項缺少翻譯
我會用英文溝通，但不是特別好的那種（真的不是亂講）程度大概是可以順利的啦累但更難的或更專業的那種句子我就不會（可以理解為正式認真的談話我不行）。
然後我之前在補習當行政，然後有個英文老師問我的英文名字，我講了之後他說我怎麼連我自己的名字都會念錯，然後我就想說⋯^_^
一個名字的唸法不止一種誒老師🫠
尤其是台灣人最愛最愛糾正的就是口音問題，哈囉我在其他國家大聊特聊都沒有被糾正過 溝通沒問題欸😍
我相信大家就是這樣才學不起來英文，你講就有人糾正，還會說我是為了你好，外國人怎麼能聽得懂你講什麼🫠
但我只能說謝謝寶貝他們聽得懂，妳先出國看看好麻✨
She worked in the market from the very beginning which is totally different from the academic ways.
我是從小在國外比台灣更久的的台灣出生的人 我只會五種流利語言 ！ 我的朋友大多都是多過我的語言能力 ！
雪兒變瘦了。雪兒的語言太厲害了，光是英文就快把我搞昏了。
真的，日文的學法真的就是先一直說😂
想了解Michelle 學習西班牙文的方法🥹
Amaaaaaazing! 8:40 It’s true😂
That is really impressive.
In 15:49 I have a different perspective. In Chinese culture, because we tend to be more reserved and indirect when expressing our feelings, we have developed a wider range of words to convey emotions. It depends on the individual’s choice of words and whether they are precise enough, but in Chinese or Japanese culture, we often consider not being too direct as a way to communicate thoughtfully, even if it sometimes means sacrificing a bit of accuracy.
I agree with you!!
We do have huge amount of words to express our feelings and emotions!!!
When I heard what she said,I felt offended and disrespected…
Talking to her dog was so fun.
I disagree with the guest who mentioned that Chinese language is lack of vocabulary in term of express themselves. If you were an advanced learner, it would change your perception of the language.
I totally agree with you! She find it easier to express herself in English simply because she has learned more English vocabulary and much less Mandarin vocabulary. It is not because Mandarin language has less vocabulary in emotional expression or Chinese culture is passive and unexpressive. Her understanding is simply too shallow. She is entitle to her opinion, but her statements can mislead other people to misunderstand the Mandarin language and Chinese culture. In terms of Taiwanese (Chinese culture) tends to be reserved, passive, and "too polite" in communication; it is just a stereotype from her own personal experience in Taiwan. It is just like of like saying Americans are loud and rude. Or saying Germans are rigid and cold, which is untrue. Stereotype is a generalization which lacks accuracy and truth. Someone who has been traveling and living in so many different countries and cultures, shouldn't have this kind of narrow perspective. While she is brilliant in learning different languages, it is very disappointing to hear her express the way she did. Knowing how to operate the mechanics of languages, does not mean she has the depth in effective communication.
中文學過文言文就會知道一個字就代表一個意境 這才是中文最難的地方
@@春美毛孩雜貨 中文博大精深 ((((
What a smart gril she is.
喜歡~~~
果然每個人對於學會一門語言的認知落差很大，我覺得學會至少要基本的對談沒有問題。
这期节目太赞了
19:20 字幕哥放棄了....😆😆
Thanks a million ❤❤❤❤❤❤
好强呀，可以说中文呀🎉❤
How fluent is she? Whole video no other language than English, I don't know how good she is😂
She worked in the market from the very beginning which is totally different from the academic ways.
I don't know her other languages.
But her spoken Mandarin is really okay.
But the 6 months should be just okay to sell the specific items as she works for a vender.
You might be able to find the RUclips video how she speaks Mandarin at that time. It's a TV interview.
She has working holiday visa at that time.
As someone who speaks both English and Mandarin (among 2 other languages), I disagree on her comment about the lack of Chinese vocabulary to describe one's emotions. The beauty of the Chinese language lies in the fact that there's actually many ways to express one's feelings, unless you are lacking fluency in it. You can even use poetry to express it. Chinese also succinctly describes something in a visual way, eg. 鸟语花香， try creating the visual image in the same way with an english expression. An analogy to this is how the same type of every meat in Chinese cuisine can be prepared in multiple ways, eg, grilled, steamed, bbq, stir fried, etc.
Best way is the different ways.
I feel like what she said is a bit weird and misleading. First, how could she claim she'd learned Mandarin in six months when she actually didn't know any characters at that time? And I guess neither did she master the tones. Second, it's so embarrassing that she said there's no such words as hurt, uncomfortable and ashamed in Chinese to express feelings after learning Chinese for more than 10 years. I mean, there's a lot and all you need is a dictionany. Can't believe what I heard. Just because people don't express their feelings quite often or you are not aware of the phrases, doesn't mean there're no such words. Be humble and modest please.
Also you can never say you master oral Mandarin unless you get the tones right, at least 90% of them.
For those who are learning Chinese or any other languages, don't be misled by this. You've got a long way to go and be well prepared.
Totally agree! As a Vietnamese- Chinese i would say she doesn't not master the tones at all haha it's easy to recognize when she said some simple phrases like hello, goodbye in my mother tongue. It sounds funny like all the white guys, who struggle to master the tones. Even as a native speaker, i don't dare to claim that i can master it. Her tone when she said "ni hao" reminds me all the times i got racism in Germany :)) all random stupid racists have the same tone :)). Sorry, but to be a polyglot you have a long journey to chase, don't mislead :)) Learn how to be humble is also import :))
I think she's adopted the technique hyperbole in that regard. Using the word "master" is really an overstatement because I've learned English over the past 30 years and I don't even claim to have mastered this foreign language even though I'm already quite fluent in it as a non-native speaker. I live and breathe it day in day out..
I guess she only learns from daily conversation. It might be true that people don't express feeling of hurt, uncomfortable and ashamed in Chinese (though I think it's not like NEVER), but it's just wrong to say that and even the host agrees to her???
她的態度就好像很覺得自己很棒棒，我相信她的確花很多心思自學，但感覺上，掌握多國語言對她而言，是作為炫耀自己的籌碼大於享受語言的樂趣，當然這也可能是我的誤解，我的想法一點都不重要～
I totally agree with you! She find it easier to express herself in English simply because she has learned more English vocabulary and much less Mandarin vocabulary. It is not because Mandarin language has less vocabulary in emotional expression or Chinese culture is passive and unexpressive. Her understanding is simply too shallow. She is entitle to her opinion, but her statements can mislead other people to misunderstand the Mandarin language and Chinese culture. In terms of Taiwanese (Chinese culture) tends to be reserved, passive, and "too polite" in communication; it is just a stereotype from her own personal experience in Taiwan. It is just like of like saying Americans are loud and rude. Or saying Germans are rigid and cold, which is untrue. Stereotype is a generalization which lacks accuracy and truth. Someone who has been traveling and living in so many different countries and cultures, shouldn't have this kind of narrow perspective. While she is brilliant in learning different languages, it is very disappointing to hear her express the way she did. Knowing how to operate the mechanics of languages, does not mean she has the depth in effective communication.
圍棋與象棋
其實現實層面大家學習的方式終究還是不一樣的
在現有的基礎建構下去搭配自己合適的方法
例如背單字是通識課的概念
可是怎麼背、怎麼使用怎麼聽都是屬於個人
如果都不知道也是從零開始的人，那麼就是一樣一樣去測試
最後會找出自己的方法
by英日韓粵學習人
she even shaked her head when she speaks Hindi😂
19:17 *subtitle guy gave up* lol
雪兒的本事是來自努力?或是天才?現在夢裡會使用哪一種語言?
厉害了，我学一门外语都觉得很困难。
beeindruckend!
Amazing
It’s actually Taiwanese culture but not Chinese culture, if you have beeen living in Taiwan for more then 10 years, to notice the difference and the correct words it should be helpful and respectful. ：）
How to learn French and German well?
🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼 中文
記得他，他是不是之前賣紅豆餅？
對
For mandarin, It's more believable to achieve to A2 level in 6 months.
6 months ?
👍👍👍👍👍
老師
The “bye bye” at the end was very sweet haha 拜拜👋
要说solid那应该完全不到吧😂 有自信确实是文化差异 按照她的标准我们很多人都已经“掌握”了至少一个中文以外的外语了 作为非母语者我们也不必妄自菲薄 更多不是练习语言而是练习她的心态吧
❤❤❤
說什麼六個月學一個語言真的不要太唬爛，為了收視率亂寫。六個月頂多只到可以旅遊的程度，假設不是在當地國家有沈浸式學習，聽跟說只會更慘。六個月只有學習外語而沒有其他事情，我相信可以到初階的程度，但要到business level就太唬爛了。
我個人花半年在下班時間學習，通過德語A2，在學生時期（非日文系）花一年通過日檢N1，我只能說我還是不熟這兩個語言，必須要在聽說讀寫持續學習
在我的認知裡，只要一個人覺得自己會說一種語言，那他就是會那種語言，毫無疑問。無關初階、中階、高階。語言最基本的目的就是拿來溝通的，能溝通就行了。你指的“不熟”，我會理解為“不專精”，對一個語言到專精的程度，也有其目的，譬如日語，很多人說，即使你考到N1也不一定能在日本生活，重點是你考到N1要做什麼？興趣、留學、求職、移民？喜歡一個語言，單純去喜歡他就好，享受與人溝通的瞬間。
我跟中文認識那麼久，也不覺得我跟中文很熟啊！但我誠實說，我會中文啊！所以我專精中文要做什麼？好跟更多人說話嗎？你去看YT上教中文的影片，很多句子根本就不是我們的日常對話。這部分我倒覺得雪兒說得很好。無所畏懼的去聽、去說，無所畏懼的讓自己去練習聽跟說，這是我學語言到現在最大的感受。
但你說中了一件這部影片我也不欣賞的事：標題-語言學習秘訣大公開。標題下得很驚人，說穿了答案只有一句「每個人的學習方式不同，沒有一種學習方式適用每個人。」即使我看了那麼多這類型的影片，還是忍不住會點來看，看完也頗生氣的。好好學一個自己喜歡的語言吧！按照自己的節奏！至少我學英文和日文是因為一個實用、一個聽起來很幸福💕。
漢語，這麼博大精深，浩浩蕩蕩，歷史悠久的語言，不可能六個月就掌握好。我個人覺得，好多polygot在吹牛。 當然，學習外語，打開了一扇國際的門，可以與來自不同文化的說不同語言的人交流，這是非常好的一件事。 說六個月，應該是路上日常生活溝通可以很不錯，但是叫他們聽懂新聞，或對話中進行一些比較複雜的話題，不太行。不過她還說她在台灣住了10年，事實說6個月只學漢語到現在已經不太準確了。 她也沒有傷害別人，她只是很熱情，但同時我不喜歡吹牛的視頻標題跟自以為是的態度。
我也討厭這類型的標題⋯
但要賺取流量嘛😅
還有說台灣人最大通病⋯
全世界人都在初步學習時期不敢對外開口說的，
香港人也會在初學時難開口說啊😹
除非住在那個環境 比如德國?日本? 不然我們日常生活也很難一直在用 只能說沉浸式學習6個月比較有可能(大部分人)另一方面就是語言天才了
別提她了，我比較想知道樓主大神分享如何用一年時間通過日檢N1？？剛開始自學日文小白留😂
👍👍👍💯💯💯🤩🤩🤩
Rock solid in Chinese and then not enough words to describe oneself?😂
女人说用中文时她找不到足够多的词表达自己的感受，但英文可以。 这怎么又说自己精通的语言里有中文呢？？？ 中文汉字少，能表达的感受可不亚于英语
因為她沒學成語
這就像是一個還沒有真正開始接觸中文的博大精深的華人小學生說他已經精通中文一樣的意思。想當初剛升上中學才真正理解到為啥小學的國語課會改叫國文課。聽、說只是基本，受過讀、寫的荼毒跟古文的藝術，才有資格來談談掌沒掌握中文這件事吧😂
😅😅😅😊😊
如何6个月学英语啊？
我以前英文老師說過，至少先找你同等程度的內容才學。成功感會更高之餘會令你提高學習興趣。我不能說六個月應令人可變為流利，但至少基本溝通已可以做到，其他的如可能表達一些東西或情景時真係要好長時間才可達成目標。不過講者有點是對的，就算普遍亞洲人包括我以前也很怕錯所以不太敢溝。但令我轉變的是因我現在在英國生活後，雖然未必完完全全達到流利。但不停錯誤不停當試（try and error) 的確會令你進步很多。
Chinese flag was wrong.2:19
🇹🇼也是用中文（？
你該不會不知道吧～～(◐‿◑)
是不是只看過中文簡體字(◐ᯅ◑)
The Chinese national flag should be the flag of China!!!
😂
说中文没有太多词表达感受～这个不太认同😂
但是事實上 只要會很少的字，中文就能溝通了
Michelle, you find it easier to express yourself in English simply because you have learned more English vocabulary and much less Mandarin vocabulary. It is not because Mandarin language has less vocabulary in emotional expression or Taiwanese (or Chinese) culture is passive and unexpressive. Your understanding is simply too shallow. You are entitle to your opinion, but your statements can mislead other people to misunderstand the Mandarin language and Taiwanese culture. In terms of Taiwanese (or Chinese) culture tends to be reserved, passive, and "too polite" in communication; it is just a stereotype from your own personal experience in Taiwan. It is just like of like saying Americans are loud and rude, or saying Germans are rigid and cold, which are untrue. Stereotype is a generalization which lacks accuracy and truth. Someone who has been traveling and living in so many different countries and cultures, shouldn't have this kind of narrow perspective. While you are brilliant in learning different languages, it is very disappointing to hear you express the way you did. Knowing how to operate the mechanics of languages, does not mean you have the depth in effective communication. You are far from "mastered" the Mandarin (Chinese) language. This you must know.
阿~真的 語言主要是拿來講的 結果台灣教育都變成寫跟讀
Speaking Chinese =/= Mandarin
You are right
So she did not learn it in 6 months…
THE interviewer (MAN) talked too much
哇
德語
呃...學霸
那位女性听起来太傲慢了，老实说，确实她如果是出现在台湾节目中的女性可以说普通话，但六个月，她自己都不相信。😂😂😂
当然，除非你每天待12个小时因为你不工作，这样我才相信。
事實上，她是有點吹大了，跟有點混淆視聽！
因為她一直都有上台灣電視節目，確實華語/國語說得挺好的，而且大部分聲調都正確，但我會認為，這是因為這幾年她都有上節目所累積下來的成果，如果翻開早些年，她剛上台灣節目的影片，就可以清楚發現，當時她的發音跟表達能力不似現在好，而她所謂的六個月是基本日常溝通，是因為她在其他節目有說過，她當時就是在紅豆餅攤打工，一邊工作，一邊跟客人對話學習而累積的，而現今聽說能力堪稱良好的她，絕對是倚仗這幾年上各種外國人在台節目，因需要討論各種在台生活議題，所積攢下來的成果！
只会说你好我好不算会中文😅
為啥主持人跟他爸講中文?
看起來不像有台灣人血統
6个月学会简单的罢了，如果说日常毫无障碍我是不信的