@@designercaolho The old Camco single chain pedal with hardly any fine adjustment settings was perfect for what your getting at.Once you got used to the feel it was trusty as anything.New pedals can be too tempting to fiddle with em instead of happily stomping them.
@@devonscope6222 I agree. Modern djent bands have nothing on Meshuggah. A fundamental misunderstanding of their sound. They're on a league of their own.
He didn't. You can hear a lot of Vinnie Paul, Reinert, Sandoval and Hoglan in modern drumming as well. A lot of Vinnie Paul and Reinert can be heard here as well.
I remember when I first realized that most of Meshuggah’s stuff was actually in 4/4 time. Listen to Thomas Haake’s hands. His feet are going crazy with the double kicks but his hands are playing a very simple 4/4 beat with high hat and snare. Blew my mind at first.
FBM has always stood out in Meshuggah's discography. They never made another song like this again. It's almost like a bizzaro world take on a song that would have been at home on "Master of Puppets".
Thomas changed the game in the metal scene during the 90,s for all us old school thrash drummers , we thought that , Lars , lambardo , Hoglan , Reinhardt , were the Pinnacle , until Thomas showed up , then the rest is history 🤔
Yes he did. But you must take into account Meshugga's cutting edge music. Their polymetric approach was not really done before in metal. Thomas was the one to do it, brilliantly I might add.
It's amazing how much of the rest of the song comes naturally to the mind with just this drum track. I like to imagine the drums are what carry the 'melody' of a Meshuggah song, like how you can recognize the identity of a song just by someone humming out the main melody in solemn. Basically, you could recognize any Meshuggah song through just the drum track alone. Everyone truly is a percussionist in Meshuggah.
Wish you could hear all the crazy ghost notes on the actual album. When I first heard the individual tracks I was blown away by what I had no idea he was even doing.
What blows my mind is how simple the production is, yet altogether it just explodes. DEI will forever be the mix approach I try to ‘attain’ with my own work.
I think this is actually a different drum mix. I just got my hands on the nail the mix stems, and the raw tracks literally sound like this. it's spectacular.
@@Slamthulhu Agreed. But still, when you hear them in isolation you can’t fathom it’ll all combine to be the mammoth it is. Bergstrand was far ahead of his time, and the perfect companion to a like group of artists.
One of my favorite tunes from them. Destroy. Erase. Improve. Is a killer album. Soul Burn felt like the heaviest thing on earth when I heard it as a kid.
This feel is what Meshuggah is BADLY missing and has never even thought about bringing back for one song since Destroy Erase Improve. This up-tempo, extreme technical, bugged-out, panic feeling thrash beat that’s NOT just straight blast beats stuff on DEI is the pinnacle of their entire career for me. FBM, Transfixion and Vanished. I hope they someday make one more song like these.
It’s really interesting how big of a difference two kicks makes…and you don’t fully realize it til you hear them in solo like this. They’re *probably* panned dead center per usual practice…but the overheads still pick up this killer stereo image. Minor tuning variations make it cool, yes…but that little stereo wiggle is just 🤤
And yet he used programmed drums eventually anyway because unlike edgelords like you he understands that music is a boundless landscape of creativity and the technology presented to him allowed him to try new things, to where he then had to re-invent the wheel when it came time to perform it.
@@pyroprince90 his most forgettable music has been programmed. He literally invented programmed drums but time has shown that you can’t cheat reality. Humans can hear it.
This drum track is taken from the stems that Nail The Mix released of this song, the rest of the album haven't been released publically so it wont be possible
Прямо сейчас сижу в супе и думаю, что тарелки при частом ударе звучат не так, а они и в жизни могут звучать так, слово у них одинаковая атака. Добавил гитару и все стало на свои места
@@thecolouroutofspacee я и не думал иначе, Томас - пулемет, но когда ударку программируешь, тарелки могут вызвать паранойю при частой и сильной атаке, а на деле все как надо, и это видео тому подтверждение. Однако, живого барабанщика ничто не заменит
I made a shitty cover of this song and every other drum track on RUclips was incorrect in some way, both having tempo and actual composition issues. I’ll have to remake a better cover now that this is uploaded. Thank you!
I mean, if you don't know how to set triggers up and have a shitty sounding module, then, yeah. But if you actually have a brain and know what you're doing, then you can get just as much of a groove out of a drum set with triggers as without. Sadly, in 2022, there's still people out there that aren't aware of this.
@@meandfriendstv Believe it or not, yes. Every trigger ever created is extremely dynamic. They are literally contact microphones. They send the drum hit timing and "volume" of the hit to the drum module. They've been doing that for a long, long, long long time. In actual fact, triggers are actually more dynamic than some microphones. And here's the killer part, the part acoustic drummers seem to want to ignore. When a person sets up a drum module for the "fixed velocity" where all the drum hits are the same volume, they're actually mimicking a technique that was pioneered in the 60s with acoustic drums, and perfected throughout the 70s, and in wide use by the mid 70s to the early 80s. Which is gating, compression, and limiting of the acoustic drum sound to make the volume of the individual hits more or less the same. Especially on kick drums. So when acoustic drummers call triggers 'cheating' I don't think they're aware that acoustic drums were the first "cheater" drums, and I don't think they're aware of what triggers are, how they work, or, that you can set up a drum module to have dynamic expression. As a matter of fact, I would not be surprised if the drum performance we are hearing now had sound sample support, or was a hybrid of microphones and drum module sounds on the snare and kick. Especially since by the early 90s, that practice was EXTREMELY common in metal performances.
Could be Mårten making a stupid face through the glass while Tomas was recording, cracking him up or something like that haha, wouldn't surprise me at all. Look at any of their old album diaries, they would all clown around constantly back then
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FACT: from 0:16 to 0:52 he used only single pedal kick!!
Looking at the stems, realizing how little the second kick is used is intimidating
That makes me sweat
@@designercaolho The old Camco single chain pedal with hardly any
fine adjustment settings was perfect for what your getting at.Once you got used to the feel it was trusty as anything.New pedals can be too tempting to fiddle with em instead of happily stomping them.
@@designercaolho Its called "dbeat" but you're right.. they even used to blast with one foot back in the days
@@designercaolho Having one good leg is for sure much better than having two ok ones.
This is from 1995. Hard to believe.
Right? Dude was 20 years ahead of his time
@@ChaosPootato no just timeless. No modern bands really compare tbh
@@devonscope6222 I agree. Modern djent bands have nothing on Meshuggah. A fundamental misunderstanding of their sound. They're on a league of their own.
@@eternalreturnal facts meshuggah is more then "one note" its groove. Its how percussive it is. How they play with thr beat. Its insane
That's the reason I'd put this as their best album to date. Simply because the way it was sooo ahead of anything you could hear at that time.
Tomas made all other metal drummers obsolete on this record. Holy shit, this was ground breaking.
That's modern drumming at his Best.
He didn't. You can hear a lot of Vinnie Paul, Reinert, Sandoval and Hoglan in modern drumming as well. A lot of Vinnie Paul and Reinert can be heard here as well.
I remember when I first realized that most of Meshuggah’s stuff was actually in 4/4 time. Listen to Thomas Haake’s hands. His feet are going crazy with the double kicks but his hands are playing a very simple 4/4 beat with high hat and snare. Blew my mind at first.
I was 16 when I first heard this album... I'm 42 now
Nice
Same 🤘
I'm close. I was 17 and I'm 39. So I wanna say 1999/2000 ish.
Me too!
Same!
FBM has always stood out in Meshuggah's discography. They never made another song like this again. It's almost like a bizzaro world take on a song that would have been at home on "Master of Puppets".
its the master of puppets' evolution... IN REVERSE!!!!
Well said.
His placement of everything and attack is insane! The man 💪
Thomas changed the game in the metal scene during the 90,s for all us old school thrash drummers , we thought that , Lars , lambardo , Hoglan , Reinhardt , were the Pinnacle , until Thomas showed up , then the rest is history 🤔
Yes he did. But you must take into account Meshugga's cutting edge music. Their polymetric approach was not really done before in metal. Thomas was the one to do it, brilliantly I might add.
I like how so far apart the bass drums are tuned. Meshuggah for life!
Danny Carey does the same apparently, and has listed Haake as one of his influences for a long time.
What do you mean?
@@ignaciojauregui7423the pitch is tuned different for each kick. Helps separation
This is so sick, what a legend of an album too
It's amazing how much of the rest of the song comes naturally to the mind with just this drum track. I like to imagine the drums are what carry the 'melody' of a Meshuggah song, like how you can recognize the identity of a song just by someone humming out the main melody in solemn. Basically, you could recognize any Meshuggah song through just the drum track alone. Everyone truly is a percussionist in Meshuggah.
I was screaming the lyrics whilst reading these comments - I agree 🤘
Not just that but tomas has a fantastic ear for when to accent notes. Fantastic drummer
Absolutely superb. You can totally hear that it's absolutely a real performance, but it's still almost unbelievably good.
3:00 Best part of the song period.
Also, the only part of the song I can play.
3:12 tho
such a musical drummer
Favorite band of all time since 1995.
An extraordinary drummer.
Amazing. Always loved Meshuggah and this song. Tomas Haake is phenomenal drummer
Wish you could hear all the crazy ghost notes on the actual album. When I first heard the individual tracks I was blown away by what I had no idea he was even doing.
What blows my mind is how simple the production is, yet altogether it just explodes. DEI will forever be the mix approach I try to ‘attain’ with my own work.
I think this is actually a different drum mix. I just got my hands on the nail the mix stems, and the raw tracks literally sound like this. it's spectacular.
DEI is the perfect example of how getting good source tones from the start means you won't have to do much work mixing it later in the process.
@@Slamthulhu Agreed. But still, when you hear them in isolation you can’t fathom it’ll all combine to be the mammoth it is. Bergstrand was far ahead of his time, and the perfect companion to a like group of artists.
@@snail415Bergstrand was also 20 years old at the time.
One of my favorite tunes from them. Destroy. Erase. Improve. Is a killer album. Soul Burn felt like the heaviest thing on earth when I heard it as a kid.
Legendary. Now if we can get the isolated track for bleed
ruclips.net/video/D2p6YaomUi8/видео.htmlsi=19Tiscu-ew9QyI1N
There's drummers, then there's Tomas Haake, an actual ET alien
its actually incredible this track... so many years later and i havent really listened to something quite like it since
This is great, and has saved me having to program the drums to play a cover of it! :D
Moister than an oyster
This feel is what Meshuggah is BADLY missing and has never even thought about bringing back for one song since Destroy Erase Improve. This up-tempo, extreme technical, bugged-out, panic feeling thrash beat that’s NOT just straight blast beats stuff on DEI is the pinnacle of their entire career for me. FBM, Transfixion and Vanished. I hope they someday make one more song like these.
Holy balls dude, dat ghost notes
Top 5 metal album of all time
Yep and the other 4 are also Meshuggah albums. 😁
Ahhm I think you mean it feels like 5 albums but actually they are 4 👉👉
Crazy how such a chaotic beat can be so stimulating!
Y'know, I'm not the biggest fan of Meshuggah, but damn it this is hands down my favorite from them.
The feel is insane. Jazz meets metal. Or is it metal meets jazz? This is from the URM Academy stuff right? Love it \m/
What an absolute beast Tomas is.
Oh yesss! Legendary! Thank u a lot!
WE WANT MORE!!!! WE WANT MORE!!!! …..
I've never felt so amazed!
This is a real treat.
his control doesn't seem humanly possible lmao
You can really hear him using those rides as crashes
It’s really interesting how big of a difference two kicks makes…and you don’t fully realize it til you hear them in solo like this. They’re *probably* panned dead center per usual practice…but the overheads still pick up this killer stereo image. Minor tuning variations make it cool, yes…but that little stereo wiggle is just 🤤
And this was before pro-tools.
This shit was actually PLAYED.
Pro Tools is over 30 years old, but yeah Haake is a god obviously.
And yet he used programmed drums eventually anyway because unlike edgelords like you he understands that music is a boundless landscape of creativity and the technology presented to him allowed him to try new things, to where he then had to re-invent the wheel when it came time to perform it.
@@pyroprince90 I was one of the first to download DFH, thanks.
@@pyroprince90 jeez relax dawg
@@pyroprince90 his most forgettable music has been programmed. He literally invented programmed drums but time has shown that you can’t cheat reality. Humans can hear it.
Sounds soooo good...
I could listen to him for hours.
Legendary
Massive.
my favourite drum track of all time
Sensationell.
Legendary!!
This is so fucking good, would it be possible for you to do the same for the guitars on this album? I'd love to hear Beneath with isolated guitars
This drum track is taken from the stems that Nail The Mix released of this song, the rest of the album haven't been released publically so it wont be possible
Amazing
Sounds almost superiordrummer-perfect
Прямо сейчас сижу в супе и думаю, что тарелки при частом ударе звучат не так, а они и в жизни могут звучать так, слово у них одинаковая атака. Добавил гитару и все стало на свои места
@@romanparfenov9441 это ты к тому, что данный трек действительно с записи, а не подделка в супериоре?
@@thecolouroutofspacee я и не думал иначе, Томас - пулемет, но когда ударку программируешь, тарелки могут вызвать паранойю при частой и сильной атаке, а на деле все как надо, и это видео тому подтверждение. Однако, живого барабанщика ничто не заменит
Original track 100%
I have a vocals track too
@@iamtheyee Could you perhaps upload the vocals isolated? Not like im gonna use them or nuthin but would be cool to hear!
2:12 13/8 it's the shit!!!
I made a shitty cover of this song and every other drum track on RUclips was incorrect in some way, both having tempo and actual composition issues. I’ll have to remake a better cover now that this is uploaded. Thank you!
Sick
Dude I need to hurl so bad right now...
Tomas Haake - a gawd.
Fucking badass man
One word "Heel Toe"
This guy's mad, really mad
incredible
สุด
Monster
I was 26….now I’m 52
Cool !
Thats why avoiding triggered drums can get you incredible groove
I mean, if you don't know how to set triggers up and have a shitty sounding module, then, yeah. But if you actually have a brain and know what you're doing, then you can get just as much of a groove out of a drum set with triggers as without. Sadly, in 2022, there's still people out there that aren't aware of this.
@@bryanharrison3889 does that mean, there are triggers that can work dynamically?
I'm lost on how you feel think trigger's have anything to do with how you make a groove lol. Do you know what a groove is? Or what triggers do?
@@crowing3886 He's equating groove to dynamics I think, which is stupid.
@@meandfriendstv Believe it or not, yes. Every trigger ever created is extremely dynamic. They are literally contact microphones. They send the drum hit timing and "volume" of the hit to the drum module. They've been doing that for a long, long, long long time. In actual fact, triggers are actually more dynamic than some microphones. And here's the killer part, the part acoustic drummers seem to want to ignore. When a person sets up a drum module for the "fixed velocity" where all the drum hits are the same volume, they're actually mimicking a technique that was pioneered in the 60s with acoustic drums, and perfected throughout the 70s, and in wide use by the mid 70s to the early 80s. Which is gating, compression, and limiting of the acoustic drum sound to make the volume of the individual hits more or less the same. Especially on kick drums. So when acoustic drummers call triggers 'cheating' I don't think they're aware that acoustic drums were the first "cheater" drums, and I don't think they're aware of what triggers are, how they work, or, that you can set up a drum module to have dynamic expression. As a matter of fact, I would not be surprised if the drum performance we are hearing now had sound sample support, or was a hybrid of microphones and drum module sounds on the snare and kick. Especially since by the early 90s, that practice was EXTREMELY common in metal performances.
I love this
i need an mp3 of this stat!!!
Use one of those youtube to mp3 websites
Lmao I was so confused for a minute cuz I saw meshuggah and just expected to hear Bleed so I was like wtf is this drum track this doesn't sound right
Is it just me or does it sound like someone's laughing in the background at 1:23?
Sounds like toms ringing to me. You can hear it every time he spams the China, you can hear it clearly from 3:40 on
I hear the laugh too.
Could be Mårten making a stupid face through the glass while Tomas was recording, cracking him up or something like that haha, wouldn't surprise me at all. Look at any of their old album diaries, they would all clown around constantly back then
i love stuff like this :D i probably would have never heard w/o this isolated track
@@ChaosPootato such an amazing China too, wonder if its stacked :O (probably not)
sweden be like
I spackled my pant with doodoo and it stimnks
Dirty boy.
Listening to this record you can see how much Jon Theodore’s parts on deloused by the mars Volta was influenced by Tomas
Original Raw Tracks
Whoo hann says its true
Did you get that from URM Academy?
No
❤️
Fkin badassery
Fuck yes
where did u get this from
remixpacks website
@@iamtheyee damn
Illegally astounding stuff.
@@iamtheyee is there more drum tracks from meshuggah?
@@zephyr30 lethargica and bleed
Dude be honest, you are a cyborg right??
😲
248
Poor china
sounds amazing though
Jesus christ
so nasty
Husker en byggeplass som låt ganske likt.
I love Thomas's style. But everyone here saying that he made others obsolete or lesser is nonsense. Jack ass really.
4:00 not a fan of this part but the rest is beast
This is one of the best parts of the song???
Clearly you do not know the song/drum creativity for what it truly means.
That's my favorite part 😂
What a stupid fucking comment.
Not a fan of you
OH you are just posting creative content of others for profit
wtf, if he didnt post this we wouldnt have this track to listen to. So thank him for uploading this instead.
@@storfarbrorn489 the joke gets lost on some people