The Wolfgang PROFI Ceramic Coating appears to be a high-quality coating that will protect vehicles for several years. Your new durability test is a nice upgrade to your testing regimen. Looking forward to future testing videos.
Hi Dmitry, Please do more coating tests especially with the newest companies like *DIY 8yr ceramic*, AND the *8+3 stack*. And PAN the organizers 8yr ceramic coating sold by the house of rags. I and many others would want to see an unbiased review of these coatings, without any limits to testing.
Appreciate all the testing you've put into this series. Perhaps you could display a chart with how the current coating ranks compared to the previous ones you've tested. In particular, I think people would be interested in seeing how many washes until failure. Keep up the good work.
Hey, thanks for watching. Theres a link to my site in the description with prior results. There is also an older link on the site to the 1.0 tests using the previous techniques.
wow!!! this channel have come a looong way, no other channel uses such high tech and science for durability tests. Love it, can wait for future videos! blessings and props to you for using a different and scientific approach
As ScottHD retired his channel I'm glad someone else is doing standardized testing. I'm a coating chemist and using standardized lab tests is a welcome change to the subjective testing. One MAJOR test I think you need to more accurately determine hydrophbicity is a contact angle measuring device. You can do this with a macro lense aimed at the surface and a micro pipettor with lab grade DI water, or at least DI water with less than 10PPM TDS. Then you can use the image and calculate contact angle change during the repeated was cycles.
Thanks! It is too bad about Scott ending his videos. I got your email as well and was going to reply there, but Ive been slammed lately. I have a usb microscope that I think would work well for this. Though I think tests during the wash may be too labor intensive. When you say 10ppm i think there is a question of how to measure, but generally my distilled water comes out a few µS/cm so depending on the ppm scale we use its not much.
@@DmitrysGarage Get a tilt stand for the microscope you can lay it almost flat also get a 50 μL glass syringe with needle tip. back light droplet it makes and you are good. Any further questions let me know!
Thanks! That one is for sure on the list, not sure on when yet but it's up there request wise. I have 5 other products filmed already and several more to film ahead of it, but it's coming :)
New sub! I’ve been watching a few videos and appreciate the tests you do. I have two suggestions for future videos: 1) It would help to also know if the coating can only be applied to clear coat, or if it can also be applied to other surfaces such as glass, plastic trim, and wheels. 2) A scratch resistance test would be cool to see, to determine how much scratch resistance (if any) the coating can actually provide.
I do try to mention the supported substrates, but sometimes i do forget. I will try to remember to mention it. I have thought about adding pencil hardness testing which would be a form of scratch testing. It would confirm those 9H, 10H type ratings.
It was a good thorough detailed review. I will check your others to see if you already answered this question. I’ve used armor shield IV for almost a decade on several vehicles. 1 How does this compare? 2 what coatings do you recommend as the best 3-5? 3 should I go with graphene or ceramic? I’m at about 3 years on my armor shield IV now and want to strip it and apply a new coating, weather wise May and June seem to be the best time to apply,so I’d like to purchase something now and wait for weather to cooperate. The coating is still performing at about 70%so I don’t want to wait another y. What do you recommend? Thanks
As a pro detailer for the last 8 years, we're constantly looking for better longevity due to our frustration with how poorly our Professional grade coatings are, and I am talking about nationally known high-quality companies that needed certification. The bottom line is, Coatings just don't last as long as advertised, especially for daily drivers left outdoors, where durability is drastically reduced on cars that we don't do the maintenance. I noticed you have Adam's 8 yr on your vehicle (wet look and slickness are crazy important factors), rated 800+ washes, and now Wolfgang at 1,000+. Are these DIY products really comparable to the Proline coatings? Because if that's true, I have to ask myself, why aren't we using Adam's or Mckees37's 10-year or DIY's new 8-year coatings? Thank you for your incredible commitment to the level of testing you can do for us, you are opening our eyes. For real-world durability, which coatings do you know will actually last 5-plus years with clients who don't get their cars maintained with toppers as often as they should?
Appreciate your candid and thoughtful comment, always great to hear from pro detailers :-). I think when we first saw coatings come out the marketing was a bit of a mystery and claims as well as explanations for how these products worked were all over the place. You had pro installers basically making up their own marketing. As DIY products and overall understanding of coatings started to gain traction the marketing shifted to dealer/pro installed being better. I think many pros, like yourself, have noted that claims do not always meet reality. For your question of whether or not pro products are better, I have my doubts because the big companies doing DIY coatings have access to all he same technologies and chemicals. There's no reason why a company like Wolfgang/Autogeek or Adam's wouldn't directly compete. As you might guess the companies making pro products haven't exactly beaten down my door to test against over the counter products. I am going to be testing a few pro products soon, but in these cases viewers have reached out and offered to share the product with me since they have access to it and I do not. I suspect we'll have more opportunities for this in the future.
Seems like a pretty big claim. Not sure how they’d extrapolate such an extreme claim. Maybe they’re basing it on durability. For example if you figure 40 washes a year you could say this Wolfgang does 25 years too (1000+ washes). Realistically though other factors than wash abrasion will speed up deterioration and shorten longevity. Also 25 years just seems like a silly feature even if true, because nearly everyone changes cars out and after a few years you’ll want to fully decon and paint correct anyway as you’ll have scratches and contamination beyond superficial swirls. I really don’t get the years of performance race. If it could really last 5 years thats the most virtually anyone would practically need.
Awesome test suite. I notice that some of the most extreme hydrophobic coatings and sealants are actually tacky, not slick. Do we know if slickness correlates at all with how the surface stays clean or with oleophobicity? The reason I ask is that I have tried both Sonax BSD and Fireball Pirouette, and both have insane hydrophobics but seem to collect or show more dirt than something like Gyeon Wet Coat does. Now, I didn't compare them side-by-side on the same panel so maybe I'm completely wrong here. I used the Fireball last and noticed I can leave fingerprints easily on it FWIW. I wonder if an oil droplet test might be worth considering.
I honestly don’t know that it necessarily does. Hydrophobic surfaces can be tacky or slick. I think wed have to start measuring contact angle to see how much correlation there is. Not sure if thats something i can get into yet
I am working towards that. Not sure if i can consistently do it since my water content isnt something i can easily control. Maybe make my own from distilled i dont know.
Hello Dmitry, I've previously asked about you testing Mckees37 graphene ceramic coating. I'm also wondering if you'll be doing a review of Apex Surface Protection's BC1 coating? Regards
Hey, thanks for watching and I can tell you these are definitely coming. There's quite a backlog and I'm trying to get through it all but Mckees is on the list. I'll add the Apex product as well as I don't think it's on there. The way I order viewer requested products is based on request volume.
Great video. What coating would you say has had the best combination of high gloss and durability?? I guess what ceramic coating would you use on your vehicle?? Thanks!
If we're talking gloss in terms of pop and overall visual appeal rather than just gloss meter readings; I'm really partial to the Adam's Graphene Advanced at the moment. It's not as durable in my testing as this PROFI Ceramic, though should still last until you need to polish again. It is a bit harder to work with, but the depth and pop is outstanding and slickness is higher too. This PROFI maxes out on durability, it retains much more reflected light, but it just doesn't look as stunning on paint (though still quite good) and could be a bit slicker in terms of coefficient of friction.
I think both are great products. Either would be very good on your c7. I have the adams advanced graphene on my c8 personally. If you want the easier to use product with maximum durability and are polishing your paint to a very high shine id go with the wolfgang. If you would rather prioritize deep wet looks and slickness id go with the adams. Really you can’t go wrong with either.
whats real intersting is that so far every test that you have done , none of these coatings stood up to UV radiation. I am wondering if costings that are not Ceramic or Graphjne and there componests are actjly based like a clear coat would .fair better than any Ceramic or Graphine coating?
so you're saying that c this will last longer than Wolfgangs claimed 3 yr durability? if so they will have a hard time improving upon it 😆 can't wait to try this on a clients car
I have not been able to reproduce any peak daylight UV exposure protection in the form of UV absorption or reflection. Coatings still can keep other agents of oxidation off paint by being a sacrificial layer, for instance water touching bare paint and being exposed to UV is worse than just UV. They also help prevent abrasion to your UV protective clear coat. So in that sense these products help, but I can’t say that I believe any of these products directly block daylight peak UV itself.
dude you are getting on a different level with all these new machines for the tests. Great job. Congrats and keep it up.
Thank you!
The Wolfgang PROFI Ceramic Coating appears to be a high-quality coating that will protect vehicles for several years. Your new durability test is a nice upgrade to your testing regimen. Looking forward to future testing videos.
Thanks! Yea i think Wolfgang did well here :)
Hi Dmitry,
Please do more coating tests especially with the newest companies like *DIY 8yr ceramic*, AND the *8+3 stack*.
And PAN the organizers 8yr ceramic coating sold by the house of rags.
I and many others would want to see an unbiased review of these coatings, without any limits to testing.
Ill have a bunch of DIY products testing soon, including their c6 diamond coating! :) stay tuned!
@DmitrysGarage thank you sir !
Looking forward to it
Appreciate all the testing you've put into this series. Perhaps you could display a chart with how the current coating ranks compared to the previous ones you've tested. In particular, I think people would be interested in seeing how many washes until failure. Keep up the good work.
Hey, thanks for watching. Theres a link to my site in the description with prior results. There is also an older link on the site to the 1.0 tests using the previous techniques.
wow!!!
this channel have come a looong way, no other channel uses such high tech and science for durability tests. Love it, can wait for future videos! blessings and props to you for using a different and scientific approach
Thanks! That means a lot to me, glad the new testing methods are working :).
As ScottHD retired his channel I'm glad someone else is doing standardized testing. I'm a coating chemist and using standardized lab tests is a welcome change to the subjective testing. One MAJOR test I think you need to more accurately determine hydrophbicity is a contact angle measuring device. You can do this with a macro lense aimed at the surface and a micro pipettor with lab grade DI water, or at least DI water with less than 10PPM TDS. Then you can use the image and calculate contact angle change during the repeated was cycles.
Thanks! It is too bad about Scott ending his videos. I got your email as well and was going to reply there, but Ive been slammed lately. I have a usb microscope that I think would work well for this. Though I think tests during the wash may be too labor intensive. When you say 10ppm i think there is a question of how to measure, but generally my distilled water comes out a few µS/cm so depending on the ppm scale we use its not much.
@@DmitrysGarage Get a tilt stand for the microscope you can lay it almost flat also get a 50 μL glass syringe with needle tip. back light droplet it makes and you are good. Any further questions let me know!
I used the Wolfgang ceramic coating 4 years ago and it just past due. Longevity of this product is amazing and so are the comments on my truck
Awesome field report!
Nice one Dmitry. Keep checking in for the mckees37 grahene ceramic review. :)
Thanks! That one is for sure on the list, not sure on when yet but it's up there request wise. I have 5 other products filmed already and several more to film ahead of it, but it's coming :)
New sub! I’ve been watching a few videos and appreciate the tests you do. I have two suggestions for future videos:
1) It would help to also know if the coating can only be applied to clear coat, or if it can also be applied to other surfaces such as glass, plastic trim, and wheels.
2) A scratch resistance test would be cool to see, to determine how much scratch resistance (if any) the coating can actually provide.
I do try to mention the supported substrates, but sometimes i do forget. I will try to remember to mention it.
I have thought about adding pencil hardness testing which would be a form of scratch testing. It would confirm those 9H, 10H type ratings.
@@DmitrysGarage yes I think it would be a good idea!
Another awesome video and product review D.
Thanks Richard, always wonderful hearing from you!
@@DmitrysGarage thanks brothet
It was a good thorough detailed review. I will check your others to see if you already answered this question. I’ve used armor shield IV for almost a decade on several vehicles. 1 How does this compare? 2 what coatings do you recommend as the best 3-5? 3 should I go with graphene or ceramic? I’m at about 3 years on my armor shield IV now and want to strip it and apply a new coating, weather wise May and June seem to be the best time to apply,so I’d like to purchase something now and wait for weather to cooperate. The coating is still performing at about 70%so I don’t want to wait another y. What do you recommend? Thanks
As a pro detailer for the last 8 years, we're constantly looking for better longevity due to our frustration with how poorly our Professional grade coatings are, and I am talking about nationally known high-quality companies that needed certification. The bottom line is, Coatings just don't last as long as advertised, especially for daily drivers left outdoors, where durability is drastically reduced on cars that we don't do the maintenance. I noticed you have Adam's 8 yr on your vehicle (wet look and slickness are crazy important factors), rated 800+ washes, and now Wolfgang at 1,000+. Are these DIY products really comparable to the Proline coatings? Because if that's true, I have to ask myself, why aren't we using Adam's or Mckees37's 10-year or DIY's new 8-year coatings? Thank you for your incredible commitment to the level of testing you can do for us, you are opening our eyes. For real-world durability, which coatings do you know will actually last 5-plus years with clients who don't get their cars maintained with toppers as often as they should?
Appreciate your candid and thoughtful comment, always great to hear from pro detailers :-). I think when we first saw coatings come out the marketing was a bit of a mystery and claims as well as explanations for how these products worked were all over the place. You had pro installers basically making up their own marketing. As DIY products and overall understanding of coatings started to gain traction the marketing shifted to dealer/pro installed being better. I think many pros, like yourself, have noted that claims do not always meet reality.
For your question of whether or not pro products are better, I have my doubts because the big companies doing DIY coatings have access to all he same technologies and chemicals. There's no reason why a company like Wolfgang/Autogeek or Adam's wouldn't directly compete. As you might guess the companies making pro products haven't exactly beaten down my door to test against over the counter products. I am going to be testing a few pro products soon, but in these cases viewers have reached out and offered to share the product with me since they have access to it and I do not. I suspect we'll have more opportunities for this in the future.
Dr. Beasley claiming 25 years on their self healing coating. Big pill to swallow.
Seems like a pretty big claim. Not sure how they’d extrapolate such an extreme claim. Maybe they’re basing it on durability. For example if you figure 40 washes a year you could say this Wolfgang does 25 years too (1000+ washes). Realistically though other factors than wash abrasion will speed up deterioration and shorten longevity. Also 25 years just seems like a silly feature even if true, because nearly everyone changes cars out and after a few years you’ll want to fully decon and paint correct anyway as you’ll have scratches and contamination beyond superficial swirls. I really don’t get the years of performance race. If it could really last 5 years thats the most virtually anyone would practically need.
Awesome test suite. I notice that some of the most extreme hydrophobic coatings and sealants are actually tacky, not slick. Do we know if slickness correlates at all with how the surface stays clean or with oleophobicity? The reason I ask is that I have tried both Sonax BSD and Fireball Pirouette, and both have insane hydrophobics but seem to collect or show more dirt than something like Gyeon Wet Coat does. Now, I didn't compare them side-by-side on the same panel so maybe I'm completely wrong here. I used the Fireball last and noticed I can leave fingerprints easily on it FWIW. I wonder if an oil droplet test might be worth considering.
I honestly don’t know that it necessarily does. Hydrophobic surfaces can be tacky or slick. I think wed have to start measuring contact angle to see how much correlation there is. Not sure if thats something i can get into yet
Love the content... But you need to find a way to test water spot resistance and water spot removal (acid) resistance
I am working towards that. Not sure if i can consistently do it since my water content isnt something i can easily control. Maybe make my own from distilled i dont know.
Would adding the Wolfgang ceramic on top of a fresh Soft99 Fusso have any benefit?
Hello Dmitry, I've previously asked about you testing Mckees37 graphene ceramic coating. I'm also wondering if you'll be doing a review of Apex Surface Protection's BC1 coating?
Regards
Hey, thanks for watching and I can tell you these are definitely coming. There's quite a backlog and I'm trying to get through it all but Mckees is on the list. I'll add the Apex product as well as I don't think it's on there. The way I order viewer requested products is based on request volume.
@@DmitrysGarageunderstood. Thx mate
Great video.
What coating would you say has had the best combination of high gloss and durability?? I guess what ceramic coating would you use on your vehicle?? Thanks!
If we're talking gloss in terms of pop and overall visual appeal rather than just gloss meter readings; I'm really partial to the Adam's Graphene Advanced at the moment. It's not as durable in my testing as this PROFI Ceramic, though should still last until you need to polish again. It is a bit harder to work with, but the depth and pop is outstanding and slickness is higher too. This PROFI maxes out on durability, it retains much more reflected light, but it just doesn't look as stunning on paint (though still quite good) and could be a bit slicker in terms of coefficient of friction.
thanks for the reply!!@@DmitrysGarage
Will you be testing cquartz uk 3.0? It seems to have a highly satisfactory review for areas which deal with salty roads during the winter
Definitely high on the list. Will be in the next large test batch I think so sooner than later :)
Very disappointed in the lack of gloss enhancement with the Wolfgang ceramic spray coating.
So Dimitri, I see you have a C8 Corvette in the background. Will this Wolfgang ceramic sealant work well on my 2017 C7?
This product or the graphene you previously tested/recommended
I think both are great products. Either would be very good on your c7. I have the adams advanced graphene on my c8 personally. If you want the easier to use product with maximum durability and are polishing your paint to a very high shine id go with the wolfgang. If you would rather prioritize deep wet looks and slickness id go with the adams. Really you can’t go wrong with either.
Dimitri, do you know anything about Cerakote ceramic sealant? I have heard good things about it.
Haven't tried it yet but it's on my short list.
whats real intersting is that so far every test that you have done , none of these coatings stood up to UV radiation. I am wondering if costings that are not Ceramic or Graphjne and there componests are actjly based like a clear coat would .fair better than any Ceramic or Graphine coating?
You are awesome!
Thanks!!
Don't you miss the old days where you would wash the panel yourself 1000 times?
Haha my shoulders sure dont ;)
so you're saying that c this will last longer than Wolfgangs claimed 3 yr durability? if so they will have a hard time improving upon it 😆 can't wait to try this on a clients car
Looks 2b a solid product
So basically ceramic coatings provide no UV protection.
I have not been able to reproduce any peak daylight UV exposure protection in the form of UV absorption or reflection. Coatings still can keep other agents of oxidation off paint by being a sacrificial layer, for instance water touching bare paint and being exposed to UV is worse than just UV. They also help prevent abrasion to your UV protective clear coat. So in that sense these products help, but I can’t say that I believe any of these products directly block daylight peak UV itself.