A lot of people forgot that Martin St. Louis won the Hart Trophy as league MVP in the 2003-04 season, the same year that they won their first Stanley Cup.
It was a recent trade, but I'll be curious what the Ryan McDonagh trade tree from the Rangers to the Lightning will look like in the future. These two teams sure do like to trade.
@@avimo2565 yes I know that but the trade that he highlighted between Florida and Tampa with condon was actually a senators and Tampa trade. That’s what I was saying
Yeah I was scratching my head on that one. I’m a Panthers fan and I’m like, I’m pretty sure we never had Mike Condon and definitely didn’t trade for Callahan, haha
And it was a horrible trade for Ottawa Senators, made no sense, why get a guy close to retirement and on injured list when they could've gotten picks, eventually retired help Ottawa senators cap space
this isn't even the longest trade tree that was vital to those back to back Lightning cups. Trading Dan Boyle to San Jose ultimately led to the pick that they used for Andrei Vasilevskiy.
@@WaddickLawnCare Lightning trade Dan Boyle and Brad Lukowich to San Jose for Matt Carle, Ty Wishart, a 2009 1st, and a 2010 4th. Matt Carle is packaged with a 2009 3rd and traded to Philadelphia for Steve Downie, Steve Eminger, and a 2009 4th. Steve Downie is traded to Colorado for Kyle Quincey. Kyle Quincey is flipped to Detroit for Sebastian Piche and a 2012 1st, which they use on Vasilevskiy.
@@WaddickLawnCare Oh, and just to make it more interesting? Dan Boyle was then traded by the Sharks for a 2015 5th, where they selected Rudolf Balcers, who was later part of the package deal to get Erik Karlsson. Obviously one side worked out a bit better, but stars on both sides!
As a rangers fan, I got choked up every single time I see the Mother’s Day goal. It brings me right back. The emotion… him banging his stick around and screaming the way he did, I believe he also picked that puck up and kept it.
With the 2023 5th round pick the Jets acquired from the Rangers, they used that pick to select Thomas Milic, a goaltender from the Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL). And the Rangers used that 2023 6th round pick they acquired from Winnipeg to select Dylan Roobroeck, a center from the Oshawa Generals (OHL).
Scoring in the playoffs, on Mother’s Day, shortly after his mother died….. His mother, in spirit, probably helped him score that goal. I would believe it if that was the case. ❤
Reading this Players Tribune article on that night was a real tear jerker. Him talking about how the puck just casually landed on his feet shortly after scoring is definitely something willed into existence.
What a great video Steve. Marty is still beloved here in Tampa and Cally is a great Tampa resident with his foundation. We would have won the triple but we really missed Yanni
Yzerman should’ve gotten fleeced. He had 1 team to deal too. He’s a literal wizard and it’s had me scared for the Red Wings future for awhile now. He’s slowly building them up to be elite.
Well I guess we should get ready for a constant war between Tampa and Detroit for Eastern Conference supremacy cause I'm fairly certain JBB isn't gonna let his predecessor bring back the Red Wing dynasty
Jason Arnott and Bryan Muir to New Jersey for Bill Guerin and Valeri Zelepukin. Huge trade tree that is still active. Hope you will cover it eventually
I always rooted for Martin St. Louis, because he attended my alma mater, the University of Vermont, where he and teammates Eric Perrin and Tim Thomas rewrote the school record book. All struggled to make the NHL, and only Thomas was drafted (217th in 1994). Perrin had only 3 seasons in the NHL, but played professionally until 2019, mostly in Finland. I saw Martin St. Louis play for the Flames early in his career; I hoped he would make it but never imagined the HHOF.
True, and the playoffs went *checks notes*...oh...oh god... That was the year Bishop was hurt like rrriiiiight before the playoffs and the goalie depth was...well... about as good as you would expect with a sweep.
The Pronger one also has a certain circle of life note because the Whalers eventually became the Hurricanes and acquired many pieces of their 2006 Stanley Cup run via this trade tree and defeated Pronger and the Oilers in the Finals
"whatever do you mean?" - I say knowing that that was the trade that gave Tampa the 19th overall pick in the 2012 draft that they used to select a certain Russian brick wall.
I remember shortly after this trade happened I got into an argument with an older dude in my ball League about St. Louis. He felt that St. Louis, by being bitter about his GM snubbing him, was somehow being unpatriotic, which for this guy was one of the worst things you could be. I thought this was a pretty dumb take, and I told him so. St. Louis got initially left of that team cuz of his age and size. The only two things he could overcome. Every metric within in his control he demolished. Also, how are you unpatriotic by wanting to represent your country? I think playing with a chip on his shoulder was one of the things that made St. Louis great, so why would he swallow his pride when his GM didn't believe in him?
I have a little gripe with one thing Steve, because Daniel Walcott deserved better in the video. He's a consummate pro and leader in the AHL, and that one game you referenced at the end of 2020-21 was also the first time in NHL history that a team iced a line with three black players, as he lined up next to Gemel Smith and Mathieu Joseph.
I'm a huge Tampa fan and always loved Marty. When he was traded collective Tampa social media was a DUMPSTER fire... but, honestly, I always liked Cally. Then when you remember that this trade gave us Tony...daaaaaaaayum.
Update on Edmonds: as of March 5th, 2023, in 35 games he has 11 goals, 8 assists for 19 points in the AHL. He's got some work to do, but he's a solid depth piece for a Crunch team with several players who played in the NHL this season with Alex Barré-Boulet (who is 2nd in the AHL in points, one point behind T.J. Tynan of Ontario), Darren Raddysh (16th in AHL points this year), and Cole Koepke.
Just a quick note Tampa was never in danger of missing the playoffs in 2014. They finished 2nd in the Atlantic but got swept by the Habs. A huge reason for that was Ben Bishop's injury.
Rejean Houle famously said to Marty after he came to his office to ask to be added to the MTL team: we'll call you back if we ever want to have you play for us. and he never called back. St-Louis, a diehard habs fan, got a chip on his shoulder from day one. the rest is history.
This will be the greatest tampabay lightning video. Talk about 1 of our legends. And a story to go with it. Toped with 2x championship. Hopefully more.
0:34 - I'm not like most Flames fans. Most Flames fans still can't get over how the 2004 Finals played out; while I have, on the other hand I still haven't gotten over my Flames dismantling what could have been the team of the '00s at the start of that decade; trading Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Marc Savard and Derek Morris - the latter two after separate squabbles with management - and _cutting_ Martin St. Louis outright. How on Earth is the franchise that took a gamble on 5-foot-6 Theo Fleury and won the same one that gave up on St. Louis a decade later? Ridiculous. (Similarly to Hasek though, shout outs to the Columbus Blue Jackets & Minnesota Wild as well, both of whom had a chance to claim Marty at the 2000 Expansion Draft before the Flames cut him, but they both passed on him as well.) Really I consider it a miracle that the Flames even _made_ the finals 3 years after that kind of damage was done; if anything it shows how good Darryl Sutter was - and still is, shockingly - at making the best of spare parts. To me Craig Button is Canada's Mike Milbury; how on Earth he has an analyst job with TSN after how much he set my Flames back, I'll never know.
@@johnnyedelhoff5866 - Honestly... Maybe? Not to knock Kiprusoff at all, he was great, one of my favourite players; just what the Flames needed in 2003-04, but his teams only got out of the first round once. Giguere basically carried the Ducks on his back to within a game of the Stanley Cup in 2003, then helped them run it back 4 years later and actually win the thing. (To say nothing of how Giguere's Ducks knocked Kiprusoff's Flames out of the first round in 2006.) So I kinda hate to say it, but between the two I probably would go with Giguere.
You forgot the part where the Rangers paid Kevin Shattenkirk to win a cup with Tampa just like they paid Brad Richards to win a cup with Chicago. Title should be "How the Rangers help other teams win cups"
Steve Producer Drew thank you making these video they make my day and I’m always thinking as this goes along to see if I remember was transpired with these trades
I wish there was a trade tree to talk about the 2008, 2009, and 2010 playoffs. Specifically Marian Hossa's journey with Pittsburg, Detroit, and finally getting a Cup in Chicago.
There are so many storylines of the sudden Marty St Louis trade from Tampa to the New York Rangers that have been left unexplored. The biggest of these is why did the trade happen. It was totally out of the blue despite the perceived Olympic snubbing. It is widely alleged and believed (but never proven) that THE prime driver of the trade was that Marty had girlfriend issues. That is he had a girlfriend and his wife found out about it and she, Mrs St Louis, demanded the trade out of Tampa to keep Marty from trolling south Tampa. It also must be remembered that Marty was the team captain of the Tampa Bay Lightning at the time and that Tampa was on the cusp of qualifying for the playoffs. Ultimately the Lightning did not qualify for the playoffs that year after the team captain abandoned ship, oh wait that’s a Buccaneer reference. In his trade demand Marty insisted on only being traded to the NY Rangers. I believe that Marty had a house at the time in Greenwich, Connecticut near the City. It’s a miracle that Yzerman was able to get what he did in the trade. To this day there are a lot of people in Tampa who have mixed feelings about Marty despite him being critical to winning their first Stanley Cup in 2004. Who could forget Marty’s overtime goal in game 6 in Calgary to bring the series back to Tampa for the penultimate game 7 won by the Lightning? And for the record Marty’s Tampa teammates all loved him and still do, especially Steven Stamkos. My guess is they knew a lot more of why Marty needed to request the trade than did the public or media. As Paul Harvey used to say….”Now you know the rest of the story.”
No one in tampa has any sort of mixed feelings about St. Louis. He’s universally beloved here. Not sure where you got this made up story but not a word of it is true except the part about him having a house in connecticut. The rest is completely fabricated. When I lived in connecticut, I used to ref his kid plying for the jr rangers. Then I moved to tampa, and just so happened to be working for the lightning the night he had his Jersey retirement. I wouldn’t say we’re “friends” by any means but we’ve crossed paths enough that he knows my face but probably not my name. I find it incredibly hard to believe he’s cheat on his wife. Dude doesn’t leave her side. I’ve never seen him wo her. And I’ve only seen her wo him in the off occasion he’s trying to lay low. Which wasn’t often bc he was very personable.
I'll have to disagree it was a pretty bad trade for the Rangers. You are leaving out the fact that they were down 3-1 to Pittsburgh and being outplayed in every aspect. The real MVP is MSL mom. If she didn't die they wouldn't have had anything to rally around. Then Price was injured and they still just squeaked by Montreal. MSL also had trade protection and picked the Rangers but Sather still gave up a good player and two firsts. It should have been I'll give you a first and that's it, cause Rangers had all the leverage. So they gave up too much still didn't win the cup and 3 years later were rebuilding
Hey, you guys messed up your timeline. Lightning made the playoffs in 2014, got swept by Montreal in Round 1. It's park of what made this trade so crazy as it was two playoff teams trading captains
Just some tidbits from a Rangers fan. Rangers lost to the NHL refs while playing the LA Kings. Then lost to a Tampa Bay team while we tried to play our captain, best player, and heart of the defense with a broken leg. That was one Ryan McDonagh who would eventually get traded to the Bolts as well and then see his partner in crime, Dan Girardi, eventually sign with the Lightning too.
Since this vid brings up a Rangers and Coyotes trade, I think a good one to look at is when Antti Raanta and Derek Stepan got sent from the Rangers to the Yotes.
As A life long NYR fan I'm glad we got St. Louis to play for the blueshirts. I wish the series against LA Kings played out differently but hey Ranger fans are used to it. Fast forward we now have Quick as backup goalie who beat us a starting goalie for that LA Kings team.
@@stentorofsparta3576 you can legitimately say the exact same thing about NYR but they still have too many young guns that aren't grizzled enough. Tampa's time of contention will keep trending downwards while the Rangers have the next 3 years of a prime championship window. That's the flow of the league guy
@@stentorofsparta3576 and when that core grows older (they aren't even that old) and contracts are up, the young players will more than likely still be here to replace them. If you're going to sit here and say that Tampa is in the prime of their cup window after what they just went through and lost and that they will remain on top longer than a younger up and coming team like the Rangers you're delusional.
@@DeadPixel27 who are these young guys waiting to take over for the old guys who carry the rangers? I see nothing that indicates lafreniere or kaako are anything special. And beyond that, panarin, Kreider, zibanejad, trouba, etc. are in the same age group as the lightning’s top players. Kucherov & vasilevskiy aren’t even 30. Point & sergachev are going to be around for quite a while yet. Plus over the next 3 years they still have the best shot at winning. The rangers aren’t built to be a cup contender, & are aging even quicker than the lightning.
As a Flames fan, I will forever have a conflicted view of Martin St. Louis. On one hand, I have the upmost respect for St. Louis as a player and person. On the other hand, we had him, let him go and he proceeded to break our heart in 2004.
At least you didn't trade your captain to Tampa, twice, only to have each captain beat your team in the ECF while on Tampa. Boy the Lightning really do love feasting on other teams' misery don't they?
Cally torched the Rangers in those 2015 playoffs - that 5 on 3 SHG haunts me. He's still the last NYR jersey I'll ever own unless they win the cup though, so probably the last NYR jersey I'll ever own I guess. Anyways, great video Steve. I've been putting off watching it b/c 2012-2015 were such gut-wrenching years for the Rangers and us fans. To be so close only to lose to NJ, LA and Tampa like that. I can only dream of how NYR might've done if Rick Nash could've scored more than 1 goal per series in those years. Oh well.
Here in Tampa, we're all pretty excited about what Edmonds could be. I'm predicting that the first winger to be injured this year brings him up to make his debut
i feel like something is wrong here Dennis Cholowski was a Red Wings pick, was part of the Datsyuk trade to the Coyotes as well as a 2nd (Filip Hronek)
The rangers used that 2023 6th round pick in the copp deal to draft Dylan Roobroeck who is a 6’7 center. Will be interesting to see if he turns into anything for them
As much as it hurt to see Marty demand a trade during a playoff run, his decision made sense for Tampa fans. Family over all. That's why his jersey is retired and you see 26 all around the stadium every game.
So Tampa Bay got the second round pick that the Islanders originally received with a first round pick in exchange for Griffin Reinhart. Still one of the worst trades in Oilers history. And despite not keeping that second rounder, Tampa Bay did end up with a potential candidate to replace Stamkos when #91 retires. Also, I don't think Condon played another NHL game after he allowed an embarrassing goal - a short-handed goal to boot - to Derek Stepan and the Arizona Coyotes.
Hey Steve! I was just watching a bunch of your past Trade Trees like the Matt Duchene one, and was wondering if you would ever do an update on some of the ones that have changed. It would be interesting to see how some of the prospects and young players in those videos have developed, but it may be too soon. Regardless, would be fun!
Walcott isn't a defenseman. Sure, he's technically one. But he's played more winger than defenseman. I'd know, I've seen him play plenty of times in Syracuse. Loveable dude.
A lot of people forgot that Martin St. Louis won the Hart Trophy as league MVP in the 2003-04 season, the same year that they won their first Stanley Cup.
pretty sure he showed the photo with the hart and art ross in this video... so unless youre blind everyone saw this... ffs
It was a recent trade, but I'll be curious what the Ryan McDonagh trade tree from the Rangers to the Lightning will look like in the future. These two teams sure do like to trade.
Worst trade of the rebuild
Awful deal for the rangers
You can start at the montreal point of this trade. It is one of the worst trade in history
@@JMD42Style idk, Kris Draper for $1 is pretty awful.
@@IHateMyAccountName also
Callahan was traded to Ottawa not Florida. But always love the trade trees there a lot of fun!
Callahan is retired
@@avimo2565 yes I know that but the trade that he highlighted between Florida and Tampa with condon was actually a senators and Tampa trade. That’s what I was saying
You have are right, Ryan!
Yeah I was scratching my head on that one. I’m a Panthers fan and I’m like, I’m pretty sure we never had Mike Condon and definitely didn’t trade for Callahan, haha
And it was a horrible trade for Ottawa Senators, made no sense, why get a guy close to retirement and on injured list when they could've gotten picks, eventually retired help Ottawa senators cap space
Tampa with Dvorak, Aho and Demko as a backup sounds like my worst nightmare as a Panthers fan.
I think that goes for the entire NHL.
I'd say Panthers fans already have been living their worst nightmare with the Lightning... that would just send it to another level
As a Hurricanes fan, if Carolina didn't get Aho, I don't think they would have the renaissance they've had.
this isn't even the longest trade tree that was vital to those back to back Lightning cups. Trading Dan Boyle to San Jose ultimately led to the pick that they used for Andrei Vasilevskiy.
Explain how it led to vasilevskiy
The Dan Boyle trade tree would be epic af
@@WaddickLawnCare Lightning trade Dan Boyle and Brad Lukowich to San Jose for Matt Carle, Ty Wishart, a 2009 1st, and a 2010 4th.
Matt Carle is packaged with a 2009 3rd and traded to Philadelphia for Steve Downie, Steve Eminger, and a 2009 4th.
Steve Downie is traded to Colorado for Kyle Quincey.
Kyle Quincey is flipped to Detroit for Sebastian Piche and a 2012 1st, which they use on Vasilevskiy.
@@Geoffistopheles thank you!
@@WaddickLawnCare Oh, and just to make it more interesting? Dan Boyle was then traded by the Sharks for a 2015 5th, where they selected Rudolf Balcers, who was later part of the package deal to get Erik Karlsson. Obviously one side worked out a bit better, but stars on both sides!
As a rangers fan, I got choked up every single time I see the Mother’s Day goal. It brings me right back. The emotion… him banging his stick around and screaming the way he did, I believe he also picked that puck up and kept it.
With the 2023 5th round pick the Jets acquired from the Rangers, they used that pick to select Thomas Milic, a goaltender from the Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL). And the Rangers used that 2023 6th round pick they acquired from Winnipeg to select Dylan Roobroeck, a center from the Oshawa Generals (OHL).
Scoring in the playoffs, on Mother’s Day, shortly after his mother died…..
His mother, in spirit, probably helped him score that goal. I would believe it if that was the case. ❤
Reading this Players Tribune article on that night was a real tear jerker. Him talking about how the puck just casually landed on his feet shortly after scoring is definitely something willed into existence.
What a great video Steve. Marty is still beloved here in Tampa and Cally is a great Tampa resident with his foundation. We would have won the triple but we really missed Yanni
Yzerman should’ve gotten fleeced. He had 1 team to deal too. He’s a literal wizard and it’s had me scared for the Red Wings future for awhile now. He’s slowly building them up to be elite.
Well I guess we should get ready for a constant war between Tampa and Detroit for Eastern Conference supremacy cause I'm fairly certain JBB isn't gonna let his predecessor bring back the Red Wing dynasty
Hopefully with Kaspar as a piece of their build up 😍
Wings are a bottom 6 team this year. Their top line is a bad 2nd line on a playoff team
@@michaelkeller5927 Notice how I said Red Wings future. Not the red wings will win the 2023 Stanley cup
Yup. Yzerman knows his stuff best signing the lightning ever did
One last killer here: Cirelli was taken with an Islanders draft pick, and he scored the goal to eliminate them from the playoffs in 2020.
Jason Arnott and Bryan Muir to New Jersey for Bill Guerin and Valeri Zelepukin. Huge trade tree that is still active. Hope you will cover it eventually
I always rooted for Martin St. Louis, because he attended my alma mater, the University of Vermont, where he and teammates Eric Perrin and Tim Thomas rewrote the school record book. All struggled to make the NHL, and only Thomas was drafted (217th in 1994). Perrin had only 3 seasons in the NHL, but played professionally until 2019, mostly in Finland. I saw Martin St. Louis play for the Flames early in his career; I hoped he would make it but never imagined the HHOF.
TBL did not miss the playoffs in 2014. They had 101 points and were 2nd in the Atlantic.
And got swept in the first round...
True, and the playoffs went *checks notes*...oh...oh god...
That was the year Bishop was hurt like rrriiiiight before the playoffs and the goalie depth was...well... about as good as you would expect with a sweep.
- Phil Esposito to Boston from Chicago
- Chris Pronger (pick) to Hartford from San Jose
- Rod Langway to Washington from Montreal
The Pronger one also has a certain circle of life note because the Whalers eventually became the Hurricanes and acquired many pieces of their 2006 Stanley Cup run via this trade tree and defeated Pronger and the Oilers in the Finals
@@johnnyedelhoff5866I'm still bitter about Pronger..oilers fan😢
Marty St. Louis, the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks flames.
One correction here. Tampa traded Callahan to Ottawa, not Florida
As a Red Wings fan, I personally feel that trading a first for Kyle Quincey helped the Bolts win back to back ships
underratedly one of the worst trades ever
"whatever do you mean?" - I say knowing that that was the trade that gave Tampa the 19th overall pick in the 2012 draft that they used to select a certain Russian brick wall.
@@matthewgannon9631 "or best?" - Lightning fans
I remember shortly after this trade happened I got into an argument with an older dude in my ball League about St. Louis. He felt that St. Louis, by being bitter about his GM snubbing him, was somehow being unpatriotic, which for this guy was one of the worst things you could be. I thought this was a pretty dumb take, and I told him so. St. Louis got initially left of that team cuz of his age and size. The only two things he could overcome. Every metric within in his control he demolished. Also, how are you unpatriotic by wanting to represent your country? I think playing with a chip on his shoulder was one of the things that made St. Louis great, so why would he swallow his pride when his GM didn't believe in him?
I have a little gripe with one thing Steve, because Daniel Walcott deserved better in the video. He's a consummate pro and leader in the AHL, and that one game you referenced at the end of 2020-21 was also the first time in NHL history that a team iced a line with three black players, as he lined up next to Gemel Smith and Mathieu Joseph.
No he didn’t. He played one game. Whether or not it was significant to you is irrelevant. It was wholly irrelevant.
MSL's OT goal at the garden is still one of my favorite clips to watch.
Forgot to mention that Andrew Copp is now playing for Stevie Y
It’s not apart of the trade tree…
Don’t worry Steve, Jesper WALLstedt is coming to Minnesota!
I'm a huge Tampa fan and always loved Marty. When he was traded collective Tampa social media was a DUMPSTER fire... but, honestly, I always liked Cally. Then when you remember that this trade gave us Tony...daaaaaaaayum.
Producer Drew: Video editing is my passion. (Must be hungover from Cup celly.)
Update on Edmonds: as of March 5th, 2023, in 35 games he has 11 goals, 8 assists for 19 points in the AHL. He's got some work to do, but he's a solid depth piece for a Crunch team with several players who played in the NHL this season with Alex Barré-Boulet (who is 2nd in the AHL in points, one point behind T.J. Tynan of Ontario), Darren Raddysh (16th in AHL points this year), and Cole Koepke.
Just a quick note Tampa was never in danger of missing the playoffs in 2014. They finished 2nd in the Atlantic but got swept by the Habs. A huge reason for that was Ben Bishop's injury.
As a UMass Lowell fan during Tyler Wall’s reign between the pipes, we love our wall.
Rejean Houle famously said to Marty after he came to his office to ask to be added to the MTL team: we'll call you back if we ever want to have you play for us. and he never called back. St-Louis, a diehard habs fan, got a chip on his shoulder from day one. the rest is history.
That was good for both....
FYI Mike richards trade from Phi to la.... still alive today
13:15 may I interest you in Wild first rounder Jesper Wallstedt
Cirelli most underrated forward in the league
This will be the greatest tampabay lightning video. Talk about 1 of our legends. And a story to go with it. Toped with 2x championship. Hopefully more.
0:34 - I'm not like most Flames fans. Most Flames fans still can't get over how the 2004 Finals played out; while I have, on the other hand I still haven't gotten over my Flames dismantling what could have been the team of the '00s at the start of that decade; trading Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Marc Savard and Derek Morris - the latter two after separate squabbles with management - and _cutting_ Martin St. Louis outright. How on Earth is the franchise that took a gamble on 5-foot-6 Theo Fleury and won the same one that gave up on St. Louis a decade later? Ridiculous. (Similarly to Hasek though, shout outs to the Columbus Blue Jackets & Minnesota Wild as well, both of whom had a chance to claim Marty at the 2000 Expansion Draft before the Flames cut him, but they both passed on him as well.)
Really I consider it a miracle that the Flames even _made_ the finals 3 years after that kind of damage was done; if anything it shows how good Darryl Sutter was - and still is, shockingly - at making the best of spare parts. To me Craig Button is Canada's Mike Milbury; how on Earth he has an analyst job with TSN after how much he set my Flames back, I'll never know.
Would you take Giguere over Kiprusoff?
@@johnnyedelhoff5866 - Honestly... Maybe? Not to knock Kiprusoff at all, he was great, one of my favourite players; just what the Flames needed in 2003-04, but his teams only got out of the first round once. Giguere basically carried the Ducks on his back to within a game of the Stanley Cup in 2003, then helped them run it back 4 years later and actually win the thing. (To say nothing of how Giguere's Ducks knocked Kiprusoff's Flames out of the first round in 2006.) So I kinda hate to say it, but between the two I probably would go with Giguere.
Btw, Mitchell Stephens is now also in the Habs system...
You forgot the part where the Rangers paid Kevin Shattenkirk to win a cup with Tampa just like they paid Brad Richards to win a cup with Chicago. Title should be "How the Rangers help other teams win cups"
Steve Producer Drew thank you making these video they make my day and I’m always thinking as this goes along to see if I remember was transpired with these trades
Okay fair play to you. The back and forth for the 7th rounder made me legit lol.
I wish there was a trade tree to talk about the 2008, 2009, and 2010 playoffs. Specifically Marian Hossa's journey with Pittsburg, Detroit, and finally getting a Cup in Chicago.
He only was traded to Pittsburgh and signed with Detroit and Chicago
There are so many storylines of the sudden Marty St Louis trade from Tampa to the New York Rangers that have been left unexplored. The biggest of these is why did the trade happen. It was totally out of the blue despite the perceived Olympic snubbing. It is widely alleged and believed (but never proven) that THE prime driver of the trade was that Marty had girlfriend issues. That is he had a girlfriend and his wife found out about it and she, Mrs St Louis, demanded the trade out of Tampa to keep Marty from trolling south Tampa. It also must be remembered that Marty was the team captain of the Tampa Bay Lightning at the time and that Tampa was on the cusp of qualifying for the playoffs. Ultimately the Lightning did not qualify for the playoffs that year after the team captain abandoned ship, oh wait that’s a Buccaneer reference. In his trade demand Marty insisted on only being traded to the NY Rangers. I believe that Marty had a house at the time in Greenwich, Connecticut near the City. It’s a miracle that Yzerman was able to get what he did in the trade. To this day there are a lot of people in Tampa who have mixed feelings about Marty despite him being critical to winning their first Stanley Cup in 2004. Who could forget Marty’s overtime goal in game 6 in Calgary to bring the series back to Tampa for the penultimate game 7 won by the Lightning? And for the record Marty’s Tampa teammates all loved him and still do, especially Steven Stamkos. My guess is they knew a lot more of why Marty needed to request the trade than did the public or media. As Paul Harvey used to say….”Now you know the rest of the story.”
No one in tampa has any sort of mixed feelings about St. Louis. He’s universally beloved here. Not sure where you got this made up story but not a word of it is true except the part about him having a house in connecticut. The rest is completely fabricated.
When I lived in connecticut, I used to ref his kid plying for the jr rangers. Then I moved to tampa, and just so happened to be working for the lightning the night he had his Jersey retirement. I wouldn’t say we’re “friends” by any means but we’ve crossed paths enough that he knows my face but probably not my name. I find it incredibly hard to believe he’s cheat on his wife. Dude doesn’t leave her side. I’ve never seen him wo her. And I’ve only seen her wo him in the off occasion he’s trying to lay low. Which wasn’t often bc he was very personable.
Loved how Lucas Edmonds was in this video I have season tickets to the fronts, and he had more pints then Shane Wright
I'll have to disagree it was a pretty bad trade for the Rangers. You are leaving out the fact that they were down 3-1 to Pittsburgh and being outplayed in every aspect. The real MVP is MSL mom. If she didn't die they wouldn't have had anything to rally around. Then Price was injured and they still just squeaked by Montreal. MSL also had trade protection and picked the Rangers but Sather still gave up a good player and two firsts. It should have been I'll give you a first and that's it, cause Rangers had all the leverage. So they gave up too much still didn't win the cup and 3 years later were rebuilding
Hey, you guys messed up your timeline. Lightning made the playoffs in 2014, got swept by Montreal in Round 1. It's park of what made this trade so crazy as it was two playoff teams trading captains
Just some tidbits from a Rangers fan.
Rangers lost to the NHL refs while playing the LA Kings. Then lost to a Tampa Bay team while we tried to play our captain, best player, and heart of the defense with a broken leg. That was one Ryan McDonagh who would eventually get traded to the Bolts as well and then see his partner in crime, Dan Girardi, eventually sign with the Lightning too.
One of my favorite players of all time who played for my favorite team the Buffalo Sabers
You can take this back further. Callahan was a 4th rounder NYR got for the signing rights of Mark Messier
Since this vid brings up a Rangers and Coyotes trade, I think a good one to look at is when Antti Raanta and Derek Stepan got sent from the Rangers to the Yotes.
As A life long NYR fan I'm glad we got St. Louis to play for the blueshirts. I wish the series against LA Kings played out differently but hey Ranger fans are used to it. Fast forward we now have Quick as backup goalie who beat us a starting goalie for that LA Kings team.
It's been years since the trade. I think it's about time for an Erik Karlsson trade tree video!
I agree, but he said on his podcast that it's still too new
On his podcast Steve said it’s too soon wants to do it in 2-3 years to see how bad it actually becomes
There WAS a goalie named Wall and he played for the Ducks. Traded to Colorado in the Brad May deal in 2007.
John Moore connects this trade tree with the Rick Nash trade tree
I live in Kingston and the Lucus Edmonds hype is insane I love him so much
If the Lightning and Rangers meet again in the playoffs, I believe the Rangers would finally win
No chance. The rangers rely almost solely on shesterkin. The bolts have vasilevskiy to go along with an amazing team.
@@stentorofsparta3576 you can legitimately say the exact same thing about NYR but they still have too many young guns that aren't grizzled enough. Tampa's time of contention will keep trending downwards while the Rangers have the next 3 years of a prime championship window. That's the flow of the league guy
@@DeadPixel27 the rangers top guys are the same age or older than the bolts top players, what are you talking about?
@@stentorofsparta3576 and when that core grows older (they aren't even that old) and contracts are up, the young players will more than likely still be here to replace them. If you're going to sit here and say that Tampa is in the prime of their cup window after what they just went through and lost and that they will remain on top longer than a younger up and coming team like the Rangers you're delusional.
@@DeadPixel27 who are these young guys waiting to take over for the old guys who carry the rangers? I see nothing that indicates lafreniere or kaako are anything special. And beyond that, panarin, Kreider, zibanejad, trouba, etc. are in the same age group as the lightning’s top players. Kucherov & vasilevskiy aren’t even 30. Point & sergachev are going to be around for quite a while yet. Plus over the next 3 years they still have the best shot at winning. The rangers aren’t built to be a cup contender, & are aging even quicker than the lightning.
Watching this on the day Yandle retires, how fitting. Also you’re exactly right, the goal and that celly on Mother’s Day gives chills every time
As a Flames fan, I will forever have a conflicted view of Martin St. Louis. On one hand, I have the upmost respect for St. Louis as a player and person. On the other hand, we had him, let him go and he proceeded to break our heart in 2004.
At least you didn't trade your captain to Tampa, twice, only to have each captain beat your team in the ECF while on Tampa.
Boy the Lightning really do love feasting on other teams' misery don't they?
St Louis was also the captain of Tampa at the time, so it was a captain for captain trade
Cally torched the Rangers in those 2015 playoffs - that 5 on 3 SHG haunts me. He's still the last NYR jersey I'll ever own unless they win the cup though, so probably the last NYR jersey I'll ever own I guess.
Anyways, great video Steve. I've been putting off watching it b/c 2012-2015 were such gut-wrenching years for the Rangers and us fans. To be so close only to lose to NJ, LA and Tampa like that. I can only dream of how NYR might've done if Rick Nash could've scored more than 1 goal per series in those years. Oh well.
steve,there has been a wall tending goal in the nhl, michael wall played 4 games for the ducks 15 years ago
"I want a goalie named 'Wall'"
I mean the Leafs did well with a goalie one letter off, who was a wall!
can we get the Leclair + Desjardins for Recchi trade tree that went on for many years... ending with Zednik & Linden trade??
Michael Wall played for the 2006-2007 Anaheim Ducks for 4 games.
Here in Tampa, we're all pretty excited about what Edmonds could be. I'm predicting that the first winger to be injured this year brings him up to make his debut
I played against Nick Capone back in high school. Hell of a player, I hope he makes it some day
Steeeveeee yessssss, been waiting for this one :)
As an Islanders fan, I'd love to have Cirelli, but at least we got Beauvillier out of this... he's pretty solid
15:05 2023 6th *could* be used for Tyler Motte if the Rangers make it to the 2nd round
i feel like something is wrong here Dennis Cholowski was a Red Wings pick, was part of the Datsyuk trade to the Coyotes as well as a 2nd (Filip Hronek)
I liked wacthing Wall at UML pre Covid.
Shout out to Bob Cole for that Mothers Day call. Miss him calling games
Have a shot everytime Steve blinks and be welcome by the Lord 5 seconds later.
The rangers used that 2023 6th round pick in the copp deal to draft Dylan Roobroeck who is a 6’7 center. Will be interesting to see if he turns into anything for them
As much as it hurt to see Marty demand a trade during a playoff run, his decision made sense for Tampa fans.
Family over all.
That's why his jersey is retired and you see 26 all around the stadium every game.
I had suggested this one but I didn't think I would see it so soon. Hurts as a Rangers fan but St. Louis was great for NYR.
Whoa Steve.. flashing the ink on the right bicep
As a Habs fan I'm hoping Marty gets to lift the Cup once again.
You can also factor in that Callahan was key convincing Stralman and Boyle in Tampa.
So Tampa Bay got the second round pick that the Islanders originally received with a first round pick in exchange for Griffin Reinhart. Still one of the worst trades in Oilers history. And despite not keeping that second rounder, Tampa Bay did end up with a potential candidate to replace Stamkos when #91 retires.
Also, I don't think Condon played another NHL game after he allowed an embarrassing goal - a short-handed goal to boot - to Derek Stepan and the Arizona Coyotes.
Hey Steve! I was just watching a bunch of your past Trade Trees like the Matt Duchene one, and was wondering if you would ever do an update on some of the ones that have changed. It would be interesting to see how some of the prospects and young players in those videos have developed, but it may be too soon. Regardless, would be fun!
I remember sitting in math class when he was traded to the Rangers, the entire class erupted at the same time; teacher included
Do the trade that sent Dan Boyle from the Tampa Bay Lightning to the San Jose Sharks
Do you think GM'S have their own trade tree? Its a good way to see how youre past moves are doing, and make correction in future says
TL;DR: Lion King is a good film
only problem with the 2014 playoffs... krider took out price.... and he hasnt been the same since..
So was the trade good for the rangers?
It was, but the Lighting getting Cirelli puts them over the top as the clear cut winners of the trade.
There was a goalie named Wall in the NHL. In the 05-06 season, Mike Wall had a cup of coffee.
Dylan Roobroeck was the selection. 6’7” center.
JoJo’s reference in my trade trees? Don’t mind if I do!
Steve you have the Callahan trade out of Tampa wrong it was to Ottawa not Florida
Mitchell Stephens i believe was invited to a camp by Montreal this year so another circle of life
That small Callahan trade for condon was to Ottawa not Florida by the way
Wasn't Callaghan traded to the Sens for Mike condon??? It says Florida but I think thats wrong?
why haven't done the Kylington line ?
13:00 Wallstedt isn't good enough? He'll almost certainly be the guy in Minny once MAF is gone.
Can't believe Steve didn't mention Jesper Wallstedt with MN supposedly gonna be our starter after MAF
Good stuff!!
Rangers 2023 pick was Dylan Roobroeck
Callahan was traded to Ottawa not Florida if I recall correctly.
When Steve says "is this going to be more work in the future" he sounds full Swedish
Dude, Mike Wall was a goalie and played for the Ducks in 06-07.
Walcott isn't a defenseman. Sure, he's technically one. But he's played more winger than defenseman. I'd know, I've seen him play plenty of times in Syracuse. Loveable dude.