I recently flew on both the 787 and A330 between Miami and LHR. Quite honestly, I really couldn’t tell much difference. I think passengers are more interested in on board service and seat comfort. I have earplugs covered with noise canceling headphones when I travel, so I don’t notice engine noise as much. A former airline employee in the UK/US.
The A330 is a nice aircraft to travel on as long the airline don’t try to shoehorn another seat across the plane 8 abreast with a 32 inch pitch seat. It rides turbulence well. I have done a number of Mel to Asia on the A330 & they have always been good trips .
The seating in the A330 is 2-4-2 which is also what the 787 was initially designed for. However, the airlines stuffed in an extra seat and went to 3-3-3, which is the same as the much wider 777 for most airlines. Thus the comfort of the 787 is no match for the A330.
Agree completely with your analysis. Just returned on a 12 hour flight on the A330neo and found the passenger experience phenomenal. Spacious, modern, quiet, and very comfortable with 2 seater sides and 13" monitors on the airline I flew. Looking forward to my next flight on this awesome aircraft.
Light years ahead of the 787? A little much don’t you think. It may be better suited for some markets but not all. These aircraft channels are becoming a dime a dozen. I support neither Boeing nor Airbus over each other.
i was also thinking about it, too many repetitions 😭. but still good news for airbus fans, aren’t they? but now i’m concerned whether the information is trustworthy likely having been written or to say the least partially edited by AI
Thanks for the view and feedback. What make you think Chat gpt does that? Don't worry, I just want to know clearly my mistake and fix it to make the next result better.
The only two advantages of the 787 in terms of pessanger comfort ist the lower cabin altitude and more sturdy flying characteristics of the 787. The A330 reacts to turbulences due to its inferior wingdesign quite sensible. The A330 Neo indeed, even the a330 ceo with rr engines is particulary quiter, even in the back and on top of that it offers wider economy seats due the the relation between cabin width and number of seats abreast. As a passenger i always prefere an airbus over a boeing. the dreamliner is not really quiet in the back. The dreamliners engines are relatively quiet indeed, but the windnoises are are quite loud due to the weightsaving design of the fuselage. In the back it feels like rushing through the sky.
As a Virgin Atlantic customer. I have had the pleasure of flying with Virgin on the 330(not Neo) and Dreamliner. The 330 slightly had more room(not major room) but felt the Dreamliners more modern interior/entertainment was better. I’m still waiting to do the 330 Neo or 350 as they phase out the old 330s so hopefully that will give me a better view on which I prefer. However I did go with virgins partner delta on a 767 to Boston and have to admit the staff on delta were amazing and slightly better service than Virgin I have to admit. Great video also. ✈️
I've been on both types 300 and 900 NEO. Flew back my 1st NEO today from Tampa was fantastic aircraft. Despite being scheduled to go on A330 900 NEO few weeks earlier but was changed to A330 300. But least got opportunity to go on NEO once. In last 3 years with Virgin went on B787-9 to LA and returned from Las Vegas in 2022. Year later A350-1000 to JFK returned from Orlando. And now A330 900 NEO. Couldn't have asked for anything else.
From a passenger’s perspective nothing can beat the 2-4-2 seat configuration. With lower fuel consumption due to the new engines and cockpit commonality with other Airbus models, A330N will shine in the following years. The ratio of B787/A330 orders (32 to 64) of 2024 speaks by itself.
I remember back , late on 70 th, when USA laughed at us " CEE wants a plane ". Europe ? Which number !? " Kinssinger..." When Europe looked for strong AirIndrustry...
Twice flew on brand new Sunclass A339. Amazing aircraft. When in a front cabin you can't hear any engine noise at all. And seat configuration 2+4+2 in my opinion is the best in industry.
The video script sounds like it was created with ChatGPT trained on Airbus press releases, read out by an AI voice, talking over stock footage. Pretty lazy.
Monopole did not seem to be a problem when US carriers only bought Boeing. Anyway, Airbus wouldn't be in a monopole situation in most of the industry today if Boeing did a better job.
Yes I've flown this type of plane 3 times one from MNL-NRT Tokyo last year and MNL-HK-MNL last May. It's true that cabin noise was great. There an available USB type A and USB Type C for charging mobile device. It's a low-cost airline Cebu pacific with 9 or 3-3-3 (459 passenger) configuration layout. I have no complain about it.
You cannot beat the seat layout and inch wider seats on the A330 and also the neo has maximised more space. Also a quieter cabin with no noisy and expensive air con system like the 787 has
This is likely an AI generated video. footage is stock. wording is weird and very essay-ish. ai is getting better and better. Channel comments are unsubstantial and theres no way a human would interact so much.
Been on an A330neo quite a number of times during the last 12 months. Very comfortable. Not noisy. Spacious. Also ... pretty! (Most flights: Condor Premium Eco)
I love the A330.I have flown both 300 and 200 and I love the downstairs WC on the 200 and the nice 7 a breast economy pluss.Sunwing used to have 9 a breast in the front on both, with 360 seats in the 200 and 400 in the 300 but redused it to 2-4-2 .It was not comfy, but 8 a breast is ok.A330 neo is now 800 and 900 in stead of 200 and 300.300 is 5.6 meters longer than the 200.It is essentially the "original" Airbus cause the hull has the same with as the A300.But of course Wally improved in many ways.I think he should have mentioned that there are two versions of it!
I agree completely because there’s a lot of different versions of the A330 and they are all different because the airlines opted for different seating arrangements and some with the maximum seating capacity so the detail is missing in quite a bit of this off video
Flawed report. The B787 has far outsold the A330NEO and does not really complete with the A350 which is larger. Outshining the A350? Really? Virgin Atlantic has operated more Airbus aircraft than Boeing aircraft.
I've had pleasure of going on all 3 new types planes since 2022 went to LA and return from Vegas on B787. 2023 A350-1000 to JFK and back from Orlando. And recently A330-900 NEO. Out of all 3 planes I like A330 NEO
330 is cheaper and that’s what’s attracting buyers. I believe the 787 uses less gas on ultra long haul and the 330 is better under 3000nm. But when you factor 20-40 million dollars cheaper that’s why airlines are starting to run to a 330. Any gas savings on the 787 is canceled out by the purchase price
probably the 777x will be a huge competitor to Airbus.... I love all this big boys... 767, 777, A330 Neo, A350 Neo have all amazing technology and made mode efficient fly long routes...
The success of the A330NEO also lies in the lack of competition, as only two manufacturers offer this type of aircraft. So customers don't have much choice and the B787 is still overbooked.
It seems to be referring to the a330-800. It has very modest orders for this version. The orders for the Neo version are more popular with the A330-900 which is a bigger variant.
dang, this one stumped me, but im 70% sure this is AI generated. These are getting good. 5:45 says "Anything else? next, the a330…is noteworthy" stock footage, weird description. I'm so used to watching videos on 2x or 1.5x speed that it took me a while to recognize that this is likely an AI video. Man, what is happening to the internet?
almost 100% sure now. read the comments the channel leaves. They are generic, copy-pastes. we are engaging with an AI channel. They are earning money from ads based on us watching. Please support real aviation geeks, not this.
Having flown on Airbus A319, 320, 321, 330ceo, 340, 350 and 380, but not 330neo, as well as Boeing 707, 717, 720, 727, 737 (including Max), 747, 757, 767, 777 and 787 over many decades, I would comment as follows. Generally Airbus cabins feel more spacious and airy, while hey usually seem smoother and quieter in flight. I do feel that Boeing has dropped the ball in many ways. The 737 Max 8 feels somehow more crowded and more fragile, but i guess that has more to do with airline fit-out than the plane itself. To me the 777 is noisier than new Airbus models, but the 777 "feels" very high quality, smooth and comfortable. I don't think the 787 is a "dream" in any way despite the hype and silly name. It's not noticeably quieter or more comfortable, the cabin feels tight and flight is less smooth. Given a choice, I'd fly a 777 in preference to the 787, and an Airbus (especially the supreme A380) in preference to all Boeings.
I wish Indonesian flag carrier/Indonesia's National airline Garuda Indonesia can obsessed the AIRBUS A330neo over it's BOEING 737, even AIRBUS A350 over it's BOEING 777 for the future during every airlines obsessed the AIRBUS A330neo over BOEING, even AIRBUS A350 for their future.
You're welcome@@FLIGAVIA! This is my pleasure to need your help about my favorite Airlines in Indonesia are Garuda Indonesia, Citilink and Pelita Air (that two airlines from Garuda Indonesia's subsidiary use AIRBUS both of the A320 than BOEING). So that's why I need your help about information for Indonesian airlines update video later. If Indonesian flag carrier/Indonesia's National Airline Garuda Indonesia have a huge plan for BOEING replacement.
You are absolutely wrong about average sale price A330 neo vs. Boeing 787. All three models of 787 (8, 9, and 10) are between 5% to 11% less expensive than A330-800 and 900 neo, even with strong US dollar than benefits airbus. At the end, airlines negotiate their purchase prices, Boeing 787 has a lower list price than A330 neo for sure.
It’s certainly not true than the A330 NEO is more economical fuel wise than the 787 series. A lot of factual errors in this video. You should do a proper Fact Check before posting.
It`s very close in efficiency but indeed B787 has the edge. Where A330Neo has a big advantage is it`s reliability, it`s had nothing like the problems the B787 has had since it`s EIS. Boeing have worked hard in addressing these issues but more crop up from time to time.
@@trevorhart545 An aircraft is any machine that can fly. Aeroplanes or Airplanes (means the same), hot air balloons, helicopters, or even flying platforms are considered aircraft! An airplane is a specific type of aircraft that has fixed wings and is heavier than air that is capable of sustained, powered, and controlled flight.
@@old.not.too.grumpy. Correct however that was not my point. What annoys me to no end is the pathological infatuation that most commentators have with the generic term aircraft. It should be known by now that aircraft is a generic term and aeroplane (..real good old British English) or airplane (USA) is a specific term that was created to distinguish the difference between zeppelins, helicopters etc. and...of course airplanes with permanently mounted wings. Think about that the next time you hear a commentator babbling on and on about "air-craaaaahft" like a drunk...instead of correctly AND specifically talking about aeroplane or airplane e.g. while describing jetliners like the A-350 or B-787.
No. Not in the slightest. It has been outsold 7:1 by the 787. It is too expensive and it overlaps and competes with the A350 for both range and pax capacity. Why would an airline get an a330 when the 350 costs the same, has the same size, and has greater range and pax capacity? It just makes no sense. The Neo has NOT sold well, and only sells when Airbus gives the airline a massive discount to make it competitively priced to the 787, if at all.
You are right and wrong. Remember, the 330 Neo is just a more modern and efficient A330, making its cost A LOT cheaper than the 787 program. Like the 747-8, it was developed more to just have some competition to the 787. Also, Boeing has a backlog of 787 like airbus with the 330 Neo but it’s way less than the 787, making it an excellent option.
The Boeing 787 is clearly the more superior airline, in terms of efficiency and passenger comfort. Fuel Consumption: - Airbus A330 Neo: 2.3-2.5 liters per 100 km per seat - Boeing 787: 2.1 liters per 100 km per seat (is lighter because of composite materials. Uses no-bleed architecture, which improves engine efficiency, and its engines are also fairly new) Passenger comfort: - due to the composite fuselage, air pressure inside the plane can be pressurised to a much higher value than the Airbus A330 - I don’t know about you, but I love the electronic dimmers The only reasons why airlines are picking the A330 neo over the 787 are: - Cost: the development cost for this aircraft are low, hence the price of the aircraft is also low. Airbus is offering massive discounts on this product - Availability: there is a much longer wait time with the Boeing 787. Therefore, airlines are choosing this. - Fleet commonality: with the smaller A320neos
The fuel consumption figures are a lot more complicated what you're describing. It depends on the flight distance and sitting configuration. The lowest emission at the moment is the A330neo from Cebu Pacific with a 459 single-class seats, with 1.4 kg/100km on medium haul flight. But it's not fair comparing it for example with a standard 2-class configuration. A 787-8 on a long-haul with 2 class configuration will consume more than 5L/100km. Your points appears to be going by the boeing's marketing. Passenger comfort is mostly due to sit configuration. If it is 9 or 10 or 11 abreast, how much knee room you have. The cabin pressure helps, but the difference is marginal. The dimming windows on the 787 are quite annoying. They are so slow to react that I thought mine was broken the first time I flown. It's just a gimmick. The A330neo is an excellent airplane, just as the 787, now that they stopped spontaneously combusting. Direct fuel consumption specially has to be with the same seat numbers and density (think 2 class vs 1 class) and sector size.
There have some recent improvements to the A330Neo that have made this aircraft more attractive to airlines looking to buy into the B787 class. They`ve made the plane lighter, the RR T-7000 engines have been upgraded & interiors have been improved. Because of this we have seen more orders for the type recently the last one being Cathay for 30 & a rumoured one coming from China for 100+. Because of it`s keen price, it`s proven reliability & improved efficiency AB can expect more & more orders for it & as you suggest it`s availability is a huge bonus. Your notion that AB `is offering massive discounts` is nonsense, the development costs were a fraction of those for the B787 so they don`t need to entertain it. Btw, the RR T-7000 is a later engine model than the T-1000 & GEnx on the Dreamliner. Although it`s a bleed-version of T-1000 RR have made a lot of improvements to it to be more efficient & reliable, but these upgrades will be given to T-1000 very soon I believe.
The 787 certainly is the more technologically advanced aircraft. But therefore also a much more expensive one. The A330neo is pretty much the original budget A350 concept that got rejected by the airlines when Airbus suggested it. Hence they had to invest in a real new design which became the actual A350. Which turned out to be a very lucky decision. However Airbus was smart enough not to bury the first concept and offer it as A330neo. The thing is there are many airlines where the 330neo is the commercially all over better deal.
@@terranzoid the complexity of fuel consumption that you very rightly elaborated upon, also applies to this video. The narrator does not explain which variant of the A330 is being compared with the 787, what was the distance for reference and what was the seating configuration. Therefore, it is not correct to give a generalised statement that the eight 330 is more efficient.
Yeah gosh that's why so many airlines like BA, QR, AI, Jal, QF, UA, AC have ordered the A330 neo over the 787. Oh no wait that's not true. Clickbait BS. Do some research before you upload such nonsense
The A330-NEO is a good plane but two things are not one is the seating capacity which is nothing like as good as the A330-302 or the A330-343 that Swiss airlines and virgin Atlantic and euro wings discover airlines all fly they have a maximum seating capacity of 340 passengers so the A330-900 NEO needs to improve on that one and the other thing is that virgin Atlantic hasn’t got the rest of their A330-900S the most recent one was at the farnbrough airport so they have 6/7 off those planes so they don’t actually have 19 off those planes in their fleet and the next new A330-900 that they are getting is arriving next year and then the rest of them are arriving in 2028 by which point they will have sold their A330-343S apart from 5 off which they are keeping because they were between 2018 and 2020 but the ones that were meant to arrive in 2020 didn’t get delivered until earlier this year. And virgin Atlantic has the Trent 700 engines on 4 off their A330-900S but there newest one has the Trent 7000 engine as for condor they don’t use rolls Royce engines for their A330-900S they use Pratt @ Whitney engines the same with delta airlines
The maximum seating capacity for the A330-900 is less than 300 passengers the older A330-302 has a seating capacity of 330 and is still a good option for airlines to use and many airlines are continuing to use them instead of the A330-NEO
Hindi Naman talaga pilipinas nga Airbus lagi binibili natitirang Boeing ay Yung 777 er. 1. Philippine airlines ordered 9 Airbus A350 1000 2. Cebu pacific ordered 102 Airbus A321 neo
Have flown with it in a one class configuration. Its really nothing special about this aircraft at all. Not very advanced, not very silent, not possible to pay with credit card on your screen. But it did seat more than 400 passangers in 53 rows. Furtheremore i assume its a lot cheaper than A350 also price/seat. So in this new era with higher interest rates its mabe more economical than a more advaansed, composide based plane like 787 or 350's. Nothing more.
If Trump were in charge he would have had the best engineers running it as he is not an engineer. Thanks for telling everybody you're voting for Harris. BTW I'm not and American.
@@beyondonethousand I'm British so I can't vote for either of them. As for having the best engineers, they would all be in prison along with the rest of the "Best" people he hired. Trump has never ever made a success of anything he has done, every scheme he ever tried failed, and that's why he had to go bankrupt six times, and 11 of his "best people" ended up in jail.
Hey we're here for aviation stuff, it's a very sad and desperate move to make an irrelevant and pointless political statement and no one cares about your political views.
A 9-across 777 is good but becoming rarer (I fly those with Korean Air and Japan Airlines). And if you happen to find a 767 still buzzing around, their 2-3-2 configuration is nice. Otherwise, I’m with you … Gimme the Airbus.
Only people who know nothing about planes say stuff like that, Boeing are objectively better overall, airbus aircraft are better in some ways for passenger comfort and that’s it, it’s only the new Boeing aircraft that have issues
The A330 is an awesome aircraft but this is definitely not true. The 787 is more popular by a long shot! Not to mention Virgin has and loves their 787's.
this is a channel dedicated to only Airbus. So at this point just stop talking about bowling and just call yourself airbus fanatic love Airbus person self airbus fanboy
Order numbers up to 2022 on Wikipedia isn’t very accurate in 2024 now is it? Yes, it’s has far less orders than the 787 but the order total is just over 350. About 140 have been built.
@Tavarish21 FWIW you said A330neos have had 350 orders, I didn't even mention the B787 orders which stands at around 1,900. Obviously, airlines can and probably will cancel some orders but they've still outsold the Neos by a huge margin.
@Tavarish21 So? It's still outselling it and by a wide margin. Airbus did with the A330s what they did with the A320s ie just reengined an old model. Boeing took the bait with the A320s and rushed and cut corners which led them to the debacle with the Maxes. The B787 is a completely different/new animal. It has It's kinks but overall it's a fresh aircraft.
Also much cheaper to acquire then the 787 which is also a big factor and can take delivery much sooner. If the 787 was the same cost as the 330 then it wouldn’t be very competitive.
@@ayzio6315 No Worries He Must Be The *_Boeing_* _boing boing_ FanBoy. 👍 There's Always Another FanBoy Who's Being A SpoilSport For *_Airbus_* _bus buzz_ The Favored Choices. 👍
Usually The Dumbest Choices Are The Best Choices. They Know Much Much Better Than You Are Because They Know Where The Profitable Flowing Money Goes. They Are Much Much Experience Than Your Common Peasant Choices. The Fierce Competition Between Airplane Brands Has A Very Healthy Decision Not To Mention The Other New Underdog Underneath These Two Giant Airplane Builders That Will Overtake The Incumbent Brands That Is Already Been Available For Years Since That They Have Existed. 😃😃
That one whose wing broke off on load test on their wings before the required 150% load? And then blown open during compression test? And then was grounded because one of the links holding the engine broke off, with damage being found on other airplanes? I don't think the word "obsessed" means what you think it means.
2-4-2 seat arrangement is the optimist that’s why I like A330 and A340
Yes, comfort always comes first.
The Air Greenland A330 800 was simply superb! I just love that 2-4-2 economy seating arrangement above all others..
Yep.
Flew on the A330 neo with Garuda last week. The 2-4-2 economy seating config is perfect for couples. Loved it.
Very nice!
I recently flew on both the 787 and A330 between Miami and LHR. Quite honestly, I really couldn’t tell much difference. I think passengers are more interested in on board service and seat comfort. I have earplugs covered with noise canceling headphones when I travel, so I don’t notice engine noise as much. A former airline employee in the UK/US.
The A330 is a nice aircraft to travel on as long the airline don’t try to shoehorn another seat across the plane 8 abreast with a 32 inch pitch seat. It rides turbulence well. I have done a number of Mel to Asia on the A330 & they have always been good trips .
That's good. Thanks for sharing!
The seating in the A330 is 2-4-2 which is also what the 787 was initially designed for. However, the airlines stuffed in an extra seat and went to 3-3-3, which is the same as the much wider 777 for most airlines. Thus the comfort of the 787 is no match for the A330.
Agree completely with your analysis. Just returned on a 12 hour flight on the A330neo and found the passenger experience phenomenal. Spacious, modern, quiet, and very comfortable with 2 seater sides and 13" monitors on the airline I flew. Looking forward to my next flight on this awesome aircraft.
Thanks for your feedback
@@FLIGAVIA 👍
Thanks to boeing MacDonald Douglas mgmt Airbus shines & will shine in next decades
thanks for your comment
@@unicorns778 McDonnell-Douglas😅
A330' land a lot smoother vs 787s and yes they are quieter. Even the A330 classic is a nice ride.
it reduces noise very well.
Landing is always on the pilot, not the aircraft
@@stevebeckerman4214ever hear of auto land?
@@justing42 Yes I have. And how many times does it actually land the aircraft?
Love the NEO, especially the comfort and seating layout in economy ❤
Yes, comfort always comes first.
The A330 NEO is an awesome Aircraft. The seating arrangement and the quiet cabin is light years ahead of ANY Boeing aircraft.
Yep that’s good one ❤
Light years ahead of the 787? A little much don’t you think. It may be better suited for some markets but not all.
These aircraft channels are becoming a dime a dozen. I support neither Boeing nor Airbus over each other.
I’ll take a 777 any day!
In your dreams
the engines are junk…Trent 7000 is a POS.
Airbus are getting a lot of things right at the moment
they choose the right way at this time
You used chatgpt for the script, didn't you?
i was also thinking about it, too many repetitions 😭.
but still good news for airbus fans, aren’t they?
but now i’m concerned whether the information is trustworthy likely having been written or to say the least partially edited by AI
Thanks for the view and feedback. What make you think Chat gpt does that? Don't worry, I just want to know clearly my mistake and fix it to make the next result better.
The only two advantages of the 787 in terms of pessanger comfort ist the lower cabin altitude and more sturdy flying characteristics of the 787. The A330 reacts to turbulences due to its inferior wingdesign quite sensible. The A330 Neo indeed, even the a330 ceo with rr engines is particulary quiter, even in the back and on top of that it offers wider economy seats due the the relation between cabin width and number of seats abreast. As a passenger i always prefere an airbus over a boeing. the dreamliner is not really quiet in the back. The dreamliners engines are relatively quiet indeed, but the windnoises are are quite loud due to the weightsaving design of the fuselage. In the back it feels like rushing through the sky.
Thanks for the view and feedback :)
you do realize the cabin altitude is controlled by the crew right? Ever hear of an outflow valve?
Today flew back from Tampa to Heathrow on A330 900 NEO. Superb aircraft
You had a great experience!
It would be great if they did a redesign making the fuselage from composite materials.
yes, it's called A350
As a Virgin Atlantic customer. I have had the pleasure of flying with Virgin on the 330(not Neo) and Dreamliner. The 330 slightly had more room(not major room) but felt the Dreamliners more modern interior/entertainment was better. I’m still waiting to do the 330 Neo or 350 as they phase out the old 330s so hopefully that will give me a better view on which I prefer.
However I did go with virgins partner delta on a 767 to Boston and have to admit the staff on delta were amazing and slightly better service than Virgin I have to admit.
Great video also. ✈️
I've been on both types 300 and 900 NEO. Flew back my 1st NEO today from Tampa was fantastic aircraft. Despite being scheduled to go on A330 900 NEO few weeks earlier but was changed to A330 300. But least got opportunity to go on NEO once. In last 3 years with Virgin went on B787-9 to LA and returned from Las Vegas in 2022. Year later A350-1000 to JFK returned from Orlando. And now A330 900 NEO. Couldn't have asked for anything else.
Thanks a lot.
From a passenger’s perspective nothing can beat the 2-4-2 seat configuration. With lower fuel consumption due to the new engines and cockpit commonality with other Airbus models, A330N will shine in the following years. The ratio of B787/A330 orders (32 to 64) of 2024 speaks by itself.
Hope so!
I remember back , late on 70 th, when USA laughed at us " CEE wants a plane ". Europe ? Which number !? " Kinssinger..." When Europe looked for strong AirIndrustry...
Twice flew on brand new Sunclass A339. Amazing aircraft. When in a front cabin you can't hear any engine noise at all. And seat configuration 2+4+2 in my opinion is the best in industry.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
The video script sounds like it was created with ChatGPT trained on Airbus press releases, read out by an AI voice, talking over stock footage. Pretty lazy.
Given that your comment has even been "hearted" by the author of the video, I'd suspect the entire channel is managed by some kind of AI.
Because thats exactly what it is. An entirely AI created channel and content.
A is my choice.
same
The continuous contrast between a shareholder-based company vs a true engineer-based company.
The only competitor of Airbus is Airbus. No airline wants a monopole on the market. And Airbus has in some parts of the airline industry a monopole.
A330 has no competitor is correct 👍
Monopole did not seem to be a problem when US carriers only bought Boeing. Anyway, Airbus wouldn't be in a monopole situation in most of the industry today if Boeing did a better job.
Yes I've flown this type of plane 3 times one from MNL-NRT Tokyo last year and MNL-HK-MNL last May. It's true that cabin noise was great. There an available USB type A and USB Type C for charging mobile device. It's a low-cost airline Cebu pacific with 9 or 3-3-3 (459 passenger) configuration layout. I have no complain about it.
great!!!!! thanks for your sharing Uncle Sam
Excellent aircraft, way more comfortable than the cramped Dreamliner.
Crampliner …
The same info over and over and over again. This video could be reduced up to 3 minutes without any loss
I might haven't noticed, but does it burn less fuel? 😊
As I know, A350 burn less fuel than A330neo :)
You cannot beat the seat layout and inch wider seats on the A330 and also the neo has maximised more space. Also a quieter cabin with no noisy and expensive air con system like the 787 has
When Boeing shines the shoes of shareholders, Airbus shines the shoes of customers.
Nice comment.
Give me that 2/4/2 economy seating arrangement anytime.
Very convenient arrangement. Just need one person to move to access the aisle.
Doesn’t he repeat himself?
This is likely an AI generated video. footage is stock. wording is weird and very essay-ish. ai is getting better and better. Channel comments are unsubstantial and theres no way a human would interact so much.
Been on an A330neo quite a number of times during the last 12 months. Very comfortable. Not noisy. Spacious. Also ... pretty!
(Most flights: Condor Premium Eco)
Thanks for sharing!
AIRBUS IS THE FUTURE✈
How about the recent?
Yeah that's why A330neos are outsellling the B787....not.
Misguided airlines, I guess...
Thanks for your feedback
The 330 is the best airliner for economy passengers
Except when you sit in the middle section of the 2/4/2 configuration or you want to sleep and the windows are not dimmable.
@@fejgulnot to mention the economy seats are wider then 787. I almost always choose 330 over 787 for that reason.
One hint: DELTA did NOT order any A330neo in 2023, except ONE in May.
Thank you.
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL GORGEOUS AIRCRAFT. AIRBUS IS THE FUTURE
Good all the time!
When Virgin kicked off, there were lots of old 74's around which Rich Bran loved.
It baffles me why anyone would buy a Boeing.
I love the A330.I have flown both 300 and 200 and I love the downstairs WC on the 200 and the nice 7 a breast economy pluss.Sunwing used to have 9 a breast in the front on both, with 360 seats in the 200 and 400 in the 300 but redused it to 2-4-2 .It was not comfy, but 8 a breast is ok.A330 neo is now 800 and 900 in stead of 200 and 300.300 is 5.6 meters longer than the 200.It is essentially the "original" Airbus cause the hull has the same with as the A300.But of course Wally improved in many ways.I think he should have mentioned that there are two versions of it!
I agree completely because there’s a lot of different versions of the A330 and they are all different because the airlines opted for different seating arrangements and some with the maximum seating capacity so the detail is missing in quite a bit of this off video
A330neo seems wider than 787 when I went on one
The cabin of the 787 is 0,23m wider than that of the a330neo. The problem seems to be the 3-3-3 configuration many airlines use on the Dreamliner.
Flawed report. The B787 has far outsold the A330NEO and does not really complete with the A350 which is larger. Outshining the A350? Really? Virgin Atlantic has operated more Airbus aircraft than Boeing aircraft.
Of course its outsold it, the 787 was first delivered in 2011, The A330neo wasn't delivered till the very end of 2018 - 100% accurate report
@@julesschollum5641 The order book also shows the 787 as more in demand.
I've had pleasure of going on all 3 new types planes since 2022 went to LA and return from Vegas on B787. 2023 A350-1000 to JFK and back from Orlando. And recently A330-900 NEO. Out of all 3 planes I like A330 NEO
330 is cheaper and that’s what’s attracting buyers. I believe the 787 uses less gas on ultra long haul and the 330 is better under 3000nm. But when you factor 20-40 million dollars cheaper that’s why airlines are starting to run to a 330. Any gas savings on the 787 is canceled out by the purchase price
A380 is King A350 Queen and now 321 is Prince of sky Sydney Australia ✈
Queen is 747. Maybe A350 is Princess? 👸
Boeing should focus on 757 max
Great idea!
That's not going to happen. The B757 has been out of production for nearly 20 years and is not coming back.
@@The_Red_Squirrel TRUE BUT IT WAS A G00D AIRCRAFT EVEN TH0UGH I AM EUR0PEAN.
Meanwhile the 777x after introduced:*uno reverse card*
probably the 777x will be a huge competitor to Airbus.... I love all this big boys... 767, 777, A330 Neo, A350 Neo have all amazing technology and made mode efficient fly long routes...
this is doubtful, not all the airlines are in high demand for the 777x and it's getting delayed 800 times
@@Andrew-sw1cv yes that’s a big problem for Boeing
@@hugozeledon there is no a350neo just a350
The success of the A330NEO also lies in the lack of competition, as only two manufacturers offer this type of aircraft.
So customers don't have much choice and the B787 is still overbooked.
That's right.
My favorite plane ❤
How many has emirates and Qatar ordered?
Smaller airplanes are better to fill and cost less on the apron too just love Airbus!!
1 a330 neo
Haha I remember when they released it and nobody wanted to buy it and a lot of people said it was gonna be a flop and now it starts to shine
the problem is that the CEO's are money maker, and still going on strong, why replace them
It seems to be referring to the a330-800. It has very modest orders for this version. The orders for the Neo version are more popular with the A330-900 which is a bigger variant.
dang, this one stumped me, but im 70% sure this is AI generated. These are getting good. 5:45 says "Anything else? next, the a330…is noteworthy" stock footage, weird description. I'm so used to watching videos on 2x or 1.5x speed that it took me a while to recognize that this is likely an AI video. Man, what is happening to the internet?
almost 100% sure now. read the comments the channel leaves. They are generic, copy-pastes. we are engaging with an AI channel. They are earning money from ads based on us watching. Please support real aviation geeks, not this.
Thanks for this comment. It's crazy to see this being the case for so many videos online and usually we do tend to foget about it!
Having flown on Airbus A319, 320, 321, 330ceo, 340, 350 and 380, but not 330neo, as well as Boeing 707, 717, 720, 727, 737 (including Max), 747, 757, 767, 777 and 787 over many decades, I would comment as follows. Generally Airbus cabins feel more spacious and airy, while hey usually seem smoother and quieter in flight. I do feel that Boeing has dropped the ball in many ways. The 737 Max 8 feels somehow more crowded and more fragile, but i guess that has more to do with airline fit-out than the plane itself. To me the 777 is noisier than new Airbus models, but the 777 "feels" very high quality, smooth and comfortable. I don't think the 787 is a "dream" in any way despite the hype and silly name. It's not noticeably quieter or more comfortable, the cabin feels tight and flight is less smooth. Given a choice, I'd fly a 777 in preference to the 787, and an Airbus (especially the supreme A380) in preference to all Boeings.
DEI hires killed Boeing.
When was it buit ?
1 always Airbus A330neo
Great choice.
I wish Indonesian flag carrier/Indonesia's National airline Garuda Indonesia can obsessed the AIRBUS A330neo over it's BOEING 737, even AIRBUS A350 over it's BOEING 777 for the future during every airlines obsessed the AIRBUS A330neo over BOEING, even AIRBUS A350 for their future.
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You're welcome@@FLIGAVIA! This is my pleasure to need your help about my favorite Airlines in Indonesia are Garuda Indonesia, Citilink and Pelita Air (that two airlines from Garuda Indonesia's subsidiary use AIRBUS both of the A320 than BOEING). So that's why I need your help about information for Indonesian airlines update video later. If Indonesian flag carrier/Indonesia's National Airline Garuda Indonesia have a huge plan for BOEING replacement.
I love A339 it's my favorite airctaft
Yep.
You are absolutely wrong about average sale price A330 neo vs. Boeing 787. All three models of 787 (8, 9, and 10) are between 5% to 11% less expensive than A330-800 and 900 neo, even with strong US dollar than benefits airbus.
At the end, airlines negotiate their purchase prices, Boeing 787 has a lower list price than A330 neo for sure.
It’s certainly not true than the A330 NEO is more economical fuel wise than the 787 series. A lot of factual errors in this video. You should do a proper Fact Check before posting.
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It`s very close in efficiency but indeed B787 has the edge. Where A330Neo has a big advantage is it`s reliability, it`s had nothing like the problems the B787 has had since it`s EIS. Boeing have worked hard in addressing these issues but more crop up from time to time.
Be specific! It is about AEROPLANES or AIRPLANES!
DEFINE THE DIFFERENCE
@trevorhart545 Aeroplane is the spelling used in most of the English speaking world
Airplane is predominantly used in north America
@@trevorhart545 An aircraft is any machine that can fly. Aeroplanes or Airplanes (means the same), hot air balloons, helicopters, or even flying platforms are considered aircraft! An airplane is a specific type of aircraft that has fixed wings and is heavier than air that is capable of sustained, powered, and controlled flight.
@@old.not.too.grumpy. Correct however that was not my point.
What annoys me to no end is the pathological infatuation that most commentators have with the generic term aircraft.
It should be known by now that aircraft is a generic term and aeroplane (..real good old British English) or airplane (USA) is a specific term that was created to distinguish the difference between zeppelins, helicopters etc. and...of course airplanes with permanently mounted wings.
Think about that the next time you hear a commentator babbling on and on about "air-craaaaahft" like a drunk...instead of correctly AND specifically talking about aeroplane or airplane e.g. while describing jetliners like the A-350 or B-787.
@@bernhardecklin7005 now you are being pedantic
Air algeria also order 5 aircraft
@@mnawer3138 Air Algérie
Another false and misleading title. #stopclickbait
1 airbus is better then boeing and can you make a video about the 350 1000 would be nice
Noted!
@@FLIGAVIA thank you
Its much cheaper.
That's right!
Money making machine for the airlines
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1) much more comfortabel. But its success is mainly because of the problems of the 787.
No. Not in the slightest. It has been outsold 7:1 by the 787. It is too expensive and it overlaps and competes with the A350 for both range and pax capacity. Why would an airline get an a330 when the 350 costs the same, has the same size, and has greater range and pax capacity? It just makes no sense. The Neo has NOT sold well, and only sells when Airbus gives the airline a massive discount to make it competitively priced to the 787, if at all.
You are right and wrong. Remember, the 330 Neo is just a more modern and efficient A330, making its cost A LOT cheaper than the 787 program. Like the 747-8, it was developed more to just have some competition to the 787. Also, Boeing has a backlog of 787 like airbus with the 330 Neo but it’s way less than the 787, making it an excellent option.
it's officially 25% less than a A350 and rumours say there are additional reductions available as the neo-conversion was cheap.
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I like boeing
Alive???? Then fly Airbus
@@DBEdwards no, I like Boeing
I like Boeing 787 dreamliner
Crash
787 is my preference as a passenger.
I try to avoid Boeing these days
I try to avoid Airbus (except A380)
Thanks for sharing your choice!
The Boeing 787 is clearly the more superior airline, in terms of efficiency and passenger comfort.
Fuel Consumption:
- Airbus A330 Neo: 2.3-2.5 liters per 100 km per seat
- Boeing 787: 2.1 liters per 100 km per seat (is lighter because of composite materials. Uses no-bleed architecture, which improves engine efficiency, and its engines are also fairly new)
Passenger comfort:
- due to the composite fuselage, air pressure inside the plane can be pressurised to a much higher value than the Airbus A330
- I don’t know about you, but I love the electronic dimmers
The only reasons why airlines are picking the A330 neo over the 787 are:
- Cost: the development cost for this aircraft are low, hence the price of the aircraft is also low. Airbus is offering massive discounts on this product
- Availability: there is a much longer wait time with the Boeing 787. Therefore, airlines are choosing this.
- Fleet commonality: with the smaller A320neos
The fuel consumption figures are a lot more complicated what you're describing. It depends on the flight distance and sitting configuration. The lowest emission at the moment is the A330neo from Cebu Pacific with a 459 single-class seats, with 1.4 kg/100km on medium haul flight. But it's not fair comparing it for example with a standard 2-class configuration. A 787-8 on a long-haul with 2 class configuration will consume more than 5L/100km.
Your points appears to be going by the boeing's marketing. Passenger comfort is mostly due to sit configuration. If it is 9 or 10 or 11 abreast, how much knee room you have. The cabin pressure helps, but the difference is marginal. The dimming windows on the 787 are quite annoying. They are so slow to react that I thought mine was broken the first time I flown. It's just a gimmick.
The A330neo is an excellent airplane, just as the 787, now that they stopped spontaneously combusting. Direct fuel consumption specially has to be with the same seat numbers and density (think 2 class vs 1 class) and sector size.
There have some recent improvements to the A330Neo that have made this aircraft more attractive to airlines looking to buy into the B787 class. They`ve made the plane lighter, the RR T-7000 engines have been upgraded & interiors have been improved. Because of this we have seen more orders for the type recently the last one being Cathay for 30 & a rumoured one coming from China for 100+. Because of it`s keen price, it`s proven reliability & improved efficiency AB can expect more & more orders for it & as you suggest it`s availability is a huge bonus. Your notion that AB `is offering massive discounts` is nonsense, the development costs were a fraction of those for the B787 so they don`t need to entertain it. Btw, the RR T-7000 is a later engine model than the T-1000 & GEnx on the Dreamliner. Although it`s a bleed-version of T-1000 RR have made a lot of improvements to it to be more efficient & reliable, but these upgrades will be given to T-1000 very soon I believe.
The 787 certainly is the more technologically advanced aircraft. But therefore also a much more expensive one. The A330neo is pretty much the original budget A350 concept that got rejected by the airlines when Airbus suggested it. Hence they had to invest in a real new design which became the actual A350. Which turned out to be a very lucky decision. However Airbus was smart enough not to bury the first concept and offer it as A330neo. The thing is there are many airlines where the 330neo is the commercially all over better deal.
@@terranzoid the complexity of fuel consumption that you very rightly elaborated upon, also applies to this video. The narrator does not explain which variant of the A330 is being compared with the 787, what was the distance for reference and what was the seating configuration. Therefore, it is not correct to give a generalised statement that the eight 330 is more efficient.
@@karthicashokan1401 that's true.
Yeah gosh that's why so many airlines like BA, QR, AI, Jal, QF, UA, AC have ordered the A330 neo over the 787. Oh no wait that's not true. Clickbait BS. Do some research before you upload such nonsense
The A330-NEO is a good plane but two things are not one is the seating capacity which is nothing like as good as the A330-302 or the A330-343 that Swiss airlines and virgin Atlantic and euro wings discover airlines all fly they have a maximum seating capacity of 340 passengers so the A330-900 NEO needs to improve on that one and the other thing is that virgin Atlantic hasn’t got the rest of their A330-900S the most recent one was at the farnbrough airport so they have 6/7 off those planes so they don’t actually have 19 off those planes in their fleet and the next new A330-900 that they are getting is arriving next year and then the rest of them are arriving in 2028 by which point they will have sold their A330-343S apart from 5 off which they are keeping because they were between 2018 and 2020 but the ones that were meant to arrive in 2020 didn’t get delivered until earlier this year. And virgin Atlantic has the Trent 700 engines on 4 off their A330-900S but there newest one has the Trent 7000 engine as for condor they don’t use rolls Royce engines for their A330-900S they use Pratt @ Whitney engines the same with delta airlines
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What are you on about??? The A330neo has a higher maximum seating capacity than the old A330.
The maximum seating capacity for the A330-900 is less than 300 passengers the older A330-302 has a seating capacity of 330 and is still a good option for airlines to use and many airlines are continuing to use them instead of the A330-NEO
@@FraserWest-um4ue the maximum seating capacity for the A330-900 is 460, the old A330-300 can have 440 seats maximum.
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Hindi Naman talaga pilipinas nga Airbus lagi binibili natitirang Boeing ay Yung 777 er.
1. Philippine airlines ordered 9 Airbus A350 1000
2. Cebu pacific ordered 102 Airbus A321 neo
Have flown with it in a one class configuration. Its really nothing special about this aircraft at all. Not very advanced, not very silent, not possible to pay with credit card on your screen.
But it did seat more than 400 passangers in 53 rows. Furtheremore i assume its a lot cheaper than A350 also price/seat. So in this new era with higher interest rates its mabe more economical than a more advaansed, composide based plane like 787 or 350's.
Nothing more.
You said it yourself, "one class configuration". When is any single cabin layout supposed to offer a particularly 'special' experience?
The trouble Boeing are in one would think that Donald Trump was in charge.
If Trump were in charge he would have had the best engineers running it as he is not an engineer. Thanks for telling everybody you're voting for Harris.
BTW I'm not and American.
@@beyondonethousand I'm British so I can't vote for either of them. As for having the best engineers, they would all be in prison along with the rest of the "Best" people he hired. Trump has never ever made a success of anything he has done, every scheme he ever tried failed, and that's why he had to go bankrupt six times, and 11 of his "best people" ended up in jail.
Hey we're here for aviation stuff, it's a very sad and desperate move to make an irrelevant and pointless political statement and no one cares about your political views.
@@Tugger_1 My comment about Trump was meant as a joke.
@@Shytot-1 ok, my apologies
I have a feeling that the 777x could beat it
Let's see what happens in the future.
Possibly but i am not so sure
It’s a different class of aircraft.
The 777X is basically a jumbo with 2 engines
777x is not the same category as 330NEO. 777x is more of A350 category. 330NEO is competing with B787
I personally like the a330NEo more than the A350, but it will not displace the 787, nor 777X
Love both❤
I fly several times a year. nothing would get me into a Boeing.
A 9-across 777 is good but becoming rarer (I fly those with Korean Air and Japan Airlines). And if you happen to find a 767 still buzzing around, their 2-3-2 configuration is nice.
Otherwise, I’m with you … Gimme the Airbus.
Only people who know nothing about planes say stuff like that, Boeing are objectively better overall, airbus aircraft are better in some ways for passenger comfort and that’s it, it’s only the new Boeing aircraft that have issues
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The A330 is an awesome aircraft but this is definitely not true. The 787 is more popular by a long shot! Not to mention Virgin has and loves their 787's.
this is a channel dedicated to only Airbus. So at this point just stop talking about bowling and just call yourself airbus fanatic love Airbus person self airbus fanboy
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I wish every flag carrier take Cargo AirCraft also A330 NEO
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140 A330neos have been sold so far. 1100 B787s have been sold so far. Yeah, airlines are really obsessed with the A330neo over the B787....
Order numbers up to 2022 on Wikipedia isn’t very accurate in 2024 now is it? Yes, it’s has far less orders than the 787 but the order total is just over 350. About 140 have been built.
@@Tavarish21 You said all that to say that the B787 is still a far better seller than the A330neos. Thanks
@Tavarish21 FWIW you said A330neos have had 350 orders, I didn't even mention the B787 orders which stands at around 1,900. Obviously, airlines can and probably will cancel some orders but they've still outsold the Neos by a huge margin.
@@sliferxxxx The 787 has been manufactured almost 10yrs longer than the 330neo. You’re welcome.
@Tavarish21 So? It's still outselling it and by a wide margin. Airbus did with the A330s what they did with the A320s ie just reengined an old model. Boeing took the bait with the A320s and rushed and cut corners which led them to the debacle with the Maxes. The B787 is a completely different/new animal. It has It's kinks but overall it's a fresh aircraft.
That is dumbest decision ever , the a330 has had a very questionable crashes.
The a330 neo is a rewinged 25 year old plane
Also much cheaper to acquire then the 787 which is also a big factor and can take delivery much sooner. If the 787 was the same cost as the 330 then it wouldn’t be very competitive.
If this is dumb then what’s ur take on the 737 ? lmao
@@ayzio6315 No Worries He Must Be The *_Boeing_* _boing boing_ FanBoy. 👍 There's Always Another FanBoy Who's Being A SpoilSport For *_Airbus_* _bus buzz_ The Favored Choices. 👍
Usually The Dumbest Choices Are The Best Choices. They Know Much Much Better Than You Are Because They Know Where The Profitable Flowing Money Goes. They Are Much Much Experience Than Your Common Peasant Choices. The Fierce Competition Between Airplane Brands Has A Very Healthy Decision Not To Mention The Other New Underdog Underneath These Two Giant Airplane Builders That Will Overtake The Incumbent Brands That Is Already Been Available For Years Since That They Have Existed. 😃😃
New wing and new engines, just leaving an aluminium tube.
Nope
More airline will be obsessed with the 777x 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Yes in 2030 🥶🥶
In 2030 if they don't kill people like the 737 Max.
That one whose wing broke off on load test on their wings before the required 150% load? And then blown open during compression test? And then was grounded because one of the links holding the engine broke off, with damage being found on other airplanes? I don't think the word "obsessed" means what you think it means.
@@terranzoid How many death?
Does that compare to the 737 Max tragedy?
@@miguelmonteiro7942 none, this was all during homologation. I wonder how it's gonna be once it starts flying passengers
Even though Boeing has quality issues, I still like the dreamliner over a330 because it's a newer aircraft and the a330 is an ugly looking aircraft
Dreamliner is great, really. I love it!
The nightmareliner is the ugly one really
You say a330 is ugly but you like the b787?
B787 is the ugliest plane that boeing ever build. The nose of the b787 is 🤢
yeah but most people who fly or operate aircraft don't care if it is ugly or not. Although I agree.
I think the 787 is beautiful from the outside, but with the industry-standard 9-across coach seating, it well earns the name “Crampliner”.
I hate the a330 business class usually 2-2-2 layout instead of 1-2-1
THAT IS THE AIRLINE CH0ICE 0N LAY0UT
That is the old.layout before the neo
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@@FLIGAVIA As a plane spotter, he A330-900/-800 are are my fav planes. Great to see they are finally getting some well deserved market success...
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