What Ex-Mormons Wish They Could Say to Mormon Family
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Dare to be an exmormon.
Dare to stand alone.
Dare to see the truth they hide.
Dare to make it known.
It's often a solitary journey.
I love your flip of this quote 😍
The hypocrisy of not being able to share my new beliefs (or lack thereof) while having to listen to “our calling this, our calling that, blah blah blah” really got me. There’s a complete lack of respect if you don’t agree 100% with them.
Can't share my life with my family because I'm not constantly giving the religion credit for my happiness.
That sucks! 😟
The "you think I wanted this" quote hit hard. Even if my believing family continues to believe, I just wish that they would listen to my reasons before dismissing my conclusion of factual information about the church. Rather than have a discussion, they don't want to hear anything contrary to their beliefs. I get it.... I understand where they're coming from because I was once like them. I just wish that they would give me the benefit of the doubt and recognize the courage it takes to be different and stand alone.
"I wish you understood that they're lying to you and controlling you"
I left the church not because I wanted to sin..
I just can't believe in talking snakes, donkeys or talking shrubbery...gold plates, ancient submarines...
Don’t forget different levels of heaven, magic underwear
You don't believe in the bible then, talking donkeys are in the bible, talking snakes are in the bible. Baptisms for the dead is spoken by Paul in the Bible. Garments are spoken about in the bible. Read the bible and you might have a ah moment.
Actually I did want to sin. It's just that their version of sinning is just regular behavior
@@roycemcmahon6940 'Shrug' so do you believe in the Bible? Why?
@@roycemcmahon6940 you missed his point. He was obviously saying he doesn’t believe in fairytale nonsense from the Bible.
Deconstructed member here: spot on video!
"I didn't research to prove the church false, I was trying to prove it true!"
I wish I could tell my parents that they did not fail me, they taught me to be a good person with integrity and I left the church BECAUSE I'm a good person. It kills me that they are suffering for nothing and that they feel like they failed as parents.
One hundred percent how my in-laws feel too. It's so sad that they can't see what amazing, Christ-like people their exmo children are. It's like no matter what we do in life, no matter how good or successful we are, our lives are meaningless because we left the church.
Great video, thank you. Members don’t ask about your new beliefs or include you in those conversations for one simple reason; they are right and you are just lost. They could not give two poops what you believe now. To them you are just a lover of sin, because there is no other reason to ever reject “the true gospel.” My mother is one of the kindest and most loving people I have ever known, but this describes her perfectly. I left the church when my children were very young. When she discovered I was not going to force 8-year-old children to be baptized in a church I no longer believed in, she essentially demanded that I “do the right thing.” I did do the right thing, and my kids made their own choices when they were adults. As a result, my mother had no real relationship with my kids or me after that, except for superficial friendly phone calls. Very sad she could not see past her religious fervor and make time to have a relationship with her grandkids. Each time in her life when she has been faced with a choice between church or family, church won every time. Silly me, I thought family was what church was all about.
Scientology does the same thing too.. wonder why? If they can wall the believers off in a bubble then they keep the money and everyone outside that bubble is a hater lol..
Amen!
That good person thing. Ive been pegged as a terrible person or im part of the adversaries plan to bring people to the dark side.
I wake up everyday thinking how can i make someones day better so i guess im horrible lol
The things that made me “feel the spirit” aren’t unique to Mormonism. I’ve found those feelings even stronger in places I was told to avoid (certain groups, types of music etc.)
connection to people and feeling a part of is so powerful and the church wants to monetize that human emotion, warning that you will not feel it if you leave the religion.
I didn’t leave the church so I could stop paying tithing but yes, it is nice to have a little extra money each month. There should be no shame in being glad that I can finally make ends meet.
Ex mo here. I said the things that I always wanted to say. It didn’t go well. The responses were more cruel than I expected and it made me realize how they have really been feeling about me for decades. I’m much less open and communicate much less with them now.
I wish I could tell them that there is still light once you leave, I’m not totally miserable and the world isn’t as bad as you think
Hi.. ex Mormon here. I wish I could tell my dear Mother that she was misled and that she believes with all of her heart and soul in a lie… it breaks my heart…I have done the research and read the books and listened to the pod casts… although i am still very much a Christian, she still won’t listen.
That's where l am.😢💔
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It's so true and surprising that they all just assume they know why I left and NONE of them want to talk about it, much less face what I've come to know about the church, the founder, and the Profits
This is at the heart of it; many family members step back in our relationship because "we left" but are not listening nor interested in our new-found knowledge, beliefs, or convictions.
Not entirely shunned, but they certainly put additional distance between us. My folks are in their last years now, and being there for them also allows them to see who I've become, so win-win. They've mellowed a bit...
P.S. While visiting last weekend, I mentioned about Nelson speaking from his wheelchair with the red chair-back superimposed behind him. I left the room and heard my Dad comment to Mom "sounds like he caught quite a bit of conference." I stifled my laughter. Keep them guessing, I suppose?😂
What so many Mormons don't get is many if not *MOST* of us actually tried to STAY before we had to leave. In the end the intolerance of the leadership and some members that pushed most of us out.
My journey has taught me so much, including personal weaknesses and challenges that I am actively overcoming becoming a healthier and more holistic person all the time. I am sure this aspect of life would have merely been tamped down, like it had been most my life had I stayed in the church.
My journey went from Protestant Christian to Pantheistic Shamanism and at the present I returned to Christianity, loving and devouring the BEAUTIFUL mysticism of the Orthodox Christian Church☦.
One thing having been all over the spectrum I can say that most the Post-Mormons in any of these spaces seem to display a very deep soulful spirituality wherever they may land and though it sounds funny even most of those that choose atheism seem to have a deeper loving connection to humanity. Why and how and why was our natural loving nature being stifled and blocked in the church? There is something wrong.
Most the ExMo Christians I know display a near tangible longing and connection to Christ. It is tiring and saddening to be around my active Mormon family that constantly blather on about situations and meetings instead of any new understanding or anything spiritual or related to Jesus Christ. Constant chatter about callings, being late or missing meetings or going to or not going to the temple. At this point for me and probably others it really feels more like an MLM or an AmWay meeting. I can tell you for me personally, after experiencing a Divine Liturgy in the Orthodox Church the Mormon church feels completely bland and sterile, devoid of any real spiritual connection, along the same lines as the Jehovah Witnesses. Even a shamanistic drum-circle is more spiritually gripping than the average meeting in the ward house... Were there churches in Orwell's dystopian 1984? If so they were probably modern day Mormon churches... it's dead...
When Mormon's find the need to look me in the eye and testify the same old tired wording about "Knowing the church is true" or that "Joseph Smith indeed restored the God's church", I find it hard not to roll my eyes thinking, "Here we go again... The same old song and dance..." knowing that they are the ones that have never really looked, learned, pondered or prayed with a true open head and clean open slate.
And on that tangent what do they suppose Jesus meant when he said, "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."...? - I guess I now find it a bit arrogant to insinuate that Christ lied and the church had to be restored by Joseph when the ORIGINAL church is still here for those that want it. -Just my (current) opinion.
Tried to stay before leaving is very true, there are tons of silently suffering people in churches who are trying to stay and about to leave. Often they seem very zealous. Or they get overlooked and shamed for being too quiet. I pissed off a practicing Mormon in the comment section of a Alyssa Grenfell video when I said that folks still in churches should remember that ex-members used to be hurting members, realize they came from your world, were formed by your world. Even now their are hurting silent people in our congregations.
Never Mormon, BUT did leave a high control religion as well... it was so hard at first when the weight literally lifts from your shoulders and you realize your free from the invisible shackles! I still remember the *exact* moment I realized 90% of the reproof I had endured wasn't really about me.... it was the organization and what it does to people. The spiritual abuse is still something I deal with when I notice my urge to "humble" myself as "just" a woman is supposed to, etc....
Your first instinct is to rescue everyone just like you were... but then remembering everyone has to work it out on their own just like you did. You have to remember those time you flipped your cognitive dissonance switch in your own life and accept all you can do is be positive, not take crap mind you, but just calm and ready to offer advice, knowledge or a shoulder if a loved one does have a shelf break too. Deconversion is a double edged sword for sure... your joy in the freedom you feel and the sorrow that now your experiences don't matter to people still in the organization because if they did... they might start to question things as well. The smug supremecy usually sweet people demonstrated around me was the worst! Ugh!
Final note - the worst church members for me, once I saw thru the indoctrination, were the older folks that I realized already KNEW what I now knew, but because they wanted to keep thier " big fish little pond" status, they were fine with knowingly living a lie and encouraging others to as well.
I am in the process of leaving a different cult, but I have told my family members what I need to say to them, namely that they made me hate myself and I don’t want to talk to people who shame me. I told them what it feels like to be raised in extreme purity culture and how that warped and twisted my sexuality until I couldn’t even enjoy sex with my husband. I told them that I am cutting of all contact with them because they gaslighted me and gave me a mental illness and then shamed me for having it. I told them they are deluded and dangerous and that I am leaving because I don’t want to die. I told them if they would rather see me dead than treat me with respect I don’t need them to be my family. This might sound extreme, but my life is really on the line, and I defended myself.
Since i moved out i wish i could say why i left, why im not going back, and why those two are different reasons. But if i do say anything, i know there will be emotional reprecussions redirected to my brother and nephew who still live at home.
Ex Catholic, but that puzzles me about all religion is the emphasis on death and the everywhere, me, am here now, now is what matters to me ❤
Enjoy your time now because you won’t enjoy it in the after life.
This actually isn't an all religions thing. I know, for instance, that Judaism doesn't have a huge emphasis on death. I think the Christian emphasis on heaven and hell is responsible for this, but not every faith has that - it was truly wild for me to learn not everyone got told at least once a week that they were going to die soon and maybe perish.
For those of you looking to have your name remove from the Mormon church, (Quit Mormon). He is a lawyer and an ex Mormon. He is a great resource and will help free of charge.
All I did was submit a letter to the church requesting my name be removed from their records and within a couple of weeks or so, I received a letter from them telling me it had been done.
@@SharonTaylor-g5l I doubt they really did it though. In their eyes, once a Mormon, ALWAYS a Mormon!
They add people bow weather they believe or not if they get😢baptized; really audacipus of them. One would think believing the book of Mormon would be a requirement for them.
I also wrote a letter, but mine was rebuking them & I Excommunicated them out of my life & how I got "rebaptized as a Christian" & I let them know that as well, at the very end!! I'm name apparently was also taken off. It's really a big no-no when you're still a mormon & get rebaptized in another church! Now, I'm both exmormon & exchristian!
So many of these are spot on! "I just went through the hardest thing I have ever gone through in my whole life. I really could have used your support and wish you could have been there for me."
I wish I could tell them about the book of Abraham, BoM anachronisms, and all of the “proof” that the church isn’t real. Of course I never will, though.
@@Coastal1931 The road to atheism is littered with bibles read cover to cover.
@@Coastal1931seriously????
Most helpful thing I said: "Stay open to all sources of information. You're smart and will sort through church truth claims and helpful insights." This helped my kids eventually leave.
What I say most often to arrogant Mormons: "I'm no longer open to disrespect. You do you, but I won't be marginalized by you for any reason." I grew up and shed co-dependence.
What I don't say that speaks volumes: My temperament, attitude, and how I do life. Nothing speaks like happiness, getting results, and becoming more loving.
“I grew up and shed co-dependence.” Sounds like an arrogant ex-mo.
Quinn Price, Great Comment!!❤ screen shot so l could remember those excellent thoughts.
@@Lovethisguy-kf1kuNo disrespect. But only to someone who doesn’t understand.
I’m way beyond understanding. I’m post exmo. I hear the commentary from the influencers and read the comments of the Exmo community and see they’re no less judgmental, hypocritical, arrogant, and self-centered as the church they can’t seem to leave behind.
@@Lovethisguy-kf1ku post exmo. As in you don’t worry about how the church affected you being in a cult? Good for you? Now who sounds judgmental. You sound like you still have e work to do? Or grow up? Wow. Also codependency is good? I still don’t understand your comment and you clearly lack understanding. Whatever man, you do you. Unbelievable.
All I’ve told my family is that the information I found about the church has led me to not believe in its validity anymore, in an attempt to keep relationships cordial. What I didn’t tell them was the real breaking point for me was I prayed *during the sacrament* for a feeling from God to prove he’s there and felt nothing (this was the third and final time of asking btw). I haven’t said anything cause I don’t need them telling me how I missed it or whatever excuse they’re using now
I just want to tell my family to stop paying tithing, of all the problems in the church tithing bothers me the most for what is involved with membership
@@Coastal1931 Stealing from the poor to make the rich more rich is so very Christlike.
I am an anthropologist who studies institutional control of populations, among other things, and my Mormon mother constantly goes on about how good I am at my work, and she waxes poetic about the lack of general critical thinking in society, but when it comes to her religious beliefs, she is so brainwashed that she doesn't recognize my expertise on the topic nor does she accept that she is not thinking critically about her belief system. I'm fine if you want to believe in fairies in the sky, but I have a HUGE problem with people who say they "know" it's true. They don't know. Knowledge is not what they have, faith is what they have, because knowledge requires evidence, and there's no evidence to back any of their beliefs up.
Sally, Yes.💔
James,
Sincerely Respectfully,
Alma, which comes from the Book of Mormon is not a *Scriptural Source of evidence.
The *Book of Mormon is not a reality based source of evidence, nor is it *History.
*Feelings are deceptive! Not evidence. Familial connection and cultural traditions? These are not evidence. Community preferences? No.
What real research have you done beyond your comfort zone? Do you love the true historical evidencial Biblical Jesus Christ of John1.1 who was born of a virgin, who created ALL things , who died on the cross and rose again, who was lucifers creator and not his brother,
The Jesus who's Father was also Biblical , Who had No body of flesh and bones , did not evolve but was, as Jesus was, always THE uncreated ONE ETERNAL GOD of Isaiah 43.10,
Isaiah 45.5, Isaiah 46 .6
Isaiah9.6
John 4.24
Etc...
Joseph was a false prophet.
Please stay open minded and above all read the Bible.❤
P.S. l once defended the lds faith. I was never a lazy learner or lax disciple. My ancestors were pioneers.
I studied in order to better defend the faith.
I studied with a heavy heart my way right out of mormonism.
Jesus is the truth , light and way.
Ex-mo here!
I wish I could explain to my Grandma that just because I don't believe in Mormon Heavenly Father or in the Bible or Christianity doesn't mean I don't believe in God.
I'm agnostic. I'm never going back to organized religion. I have my own ideas of God and spirituality.
But mostly, I wish I could tell my Grandma that my beliefs are just as valid as her beliefs.
Same! Good for you! I'm proud of you!
I'm a lone Wolf, as well & doing my own thing after i left Mormonism & my walls are definitely up now against all believers & religions. I did try Christianity. Nope, I'm not going there again! I have my specific reasons why, but let you know, this is not a path that you're on for the weak! Religions have blocked most people from it.
Walk it & walk it alone & don't be afraid of what lies ahead, as you are very well aware!! & what it's all about! ❤❤❤ don't ever give up & keep your head held high! Keep going! You may have chosen this path, but i kinda didn't, but all I can tell you is that when I went from Mormonism to Christianity, I was literally basically forced here.
I will let you be on your way and enjoy your journey! THAT is what it's all about. Soul growth 🥰 not the destination! I wish you well & you will learn & grow as well & figure it out & understand in your own way! Though I wish to tell you more, but I must not! I can't! But bless be & be blessed!❤
This was my epiphany: Article of Faith: 11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may. The epiphany was that this applies to each person individually, not to everyone that doesn’t belong to the church. So how is it that we are prescribed every step on the “covenant path”?
That article is just code for “leave us Mormons alone” or in other words “let me keep fleecing these people”.
...yet we are slandered by Russell Nelson as lazy learners and lax disciples. The unending gaslighting really gets to mr. What decievers. 💔😨
My bishop asked me why I wanted to leave and all I could say was "you wouldn't believe me, but all I will say is when your biggest fear of leaving is losing your community, then you lose your community without even leaving, and in a time you needed them the most, it makes leaving so much easier because no one cares anyways". No one called or texted. No one reached out when I stopped reaching out first. I stopped getting invited to stuff. I was open and talked about health conditions I was facing and everyone acted like they were so worried but then never cared after that. No one asked where I'd been, how I'd been, everyone stopped caring about me when I stopped being the one to put in all of the effort first. I now have two friends left within the church when a year ago, I'd say I was friends with the entire branch of 50+ people. This is all without even announcing to anyone that I've decided to leave and before my records getting removed. The only people who know I'm officially leaving and not just going inactive are the two friends who support me regardless
I want to tell my mother that a lot of the things she detests about Donald Trump are similar if not exactly the same things Joseph Smith did.
OMG THIS
@@eiluvart0416 The sad thing is that many Mormon-cultists are also Trump-cultists. They just can't cult enough!
Ya, I was going to fix a family members faith crisis and find the answers that they struggled with. But the more you dig the harder it is to answer those questions and then you have even more than you started with. Great content.
Im honestly much, much happier outside the church. The church was the source of so much anxiety
I am a 75 y/o Christian who has never been Mormon. My 73 y/o sister married into Mormonism in her mid 20's. I cannot talk to their 'family unit' any more than you can. What I want to do is to show them the depth and value of the Jesus Christ who did not die for himself. - As you may not know, that is offensive.
Religuons that vere away from the Bible do minimize or eliminate Emanuel God with us in flesh and as a reedemer from sin. Most do not know that even the Koran acknowledges Jesus virgin birth and that He is to be followed...Surah Ali 'Imran 3:42-54
@@marycruise9348 However, the Jesus of the Koran will conduct a bloodbath upon his return. So, I won't go near him and you shouldn't either. God bless you young lady.
I hadn't wondered where the music went. Didn't think about it until I read your explanation in the description. I don't come here to hear music. I only stop by to listen to you and to read the comments. Keep up the good work !!!
My exmo husband and I are Christian. His family didn’t have a problem with him being a Jack Mormon but had a huge problem when he said he was now Christian.
They also talk about “the church” and everything that goes with it, but don’t want to hear anything about our faith. 🤷🏼♀️
That my husband (boyfriend at the time) didn’t corrupt me or lead me away from the church. It removes my agency, and as the Mormon church likes to do, places it in a man’s hands. They don’t understand that I had my own thoughts and opinions, and that it was a heartbreaking choice for me to make. When I first realized it was all a lie I didn’t sleep for three days straight and I’m a narcoleptic (body always on sleep mode). I was heartbroken and they were all too focused on their own feelings and accusations to notice my emotions and how distraught I was. I’ll never forgive them for that.
Is it mandatory for women, when they leave the Mormon church, that they get a left nose piercing?
Just kidding, but both you and Alyssa have the same jewelry.
Awesome that both of you were strong enough to escape the cult.👏👏👏
I wish I could tell my entire (literally everyone in my family believes, extended and all) family everything that led me to leave and that i’ve left… my parents and siblings to some extent have guessed and my mom knows I am queer so she thinks that’s the whole reason for it but it’s only the very very tip of the iceberg 😭😭
I have so many smart people in my family, I just wish they could see the church for what it really is, but i get that after generations and generations of conditioning that’s not likely and I also want to give them the respect I’d hope they would give to me 💔💔
I wrote mine the most gracious kind intelligent lrtter l could. I got others to proof read it, even a counselor checked it out for respect.
No one ever replied. It's been years. They did not want to know. 💔😣
I only told my parents about it all last week and they seem to think that "oh she knows deep down that it's true" and I want to tell them that I so badly wanted it to be true but I don't think god would make me a trans man in the church and unable to even socially transition. They don't know I'm trans though so they don't know the biggest part of my faith crisis was my sexuality and gender questioning which happened at the same time. Anyway I'm stuck living at home but at least I have my super supportive boyfriend to help me
Mormons do not ask why people leave The Church is because they think they already know. Why ask about something when they are not curious?
Iknow. It is really hurtful. 😒
My mother... (The one person who refused to cut me out of their life.) Eventually started talking to me about God and such and the one day she said. "you know Jill. For having left your faith, you are such a spiritual person and your spiritual growth is amazing." She died in 17. The rest of my family still hate me.
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So sorry for the loss of your mother, friend 🧡 Peace be with you in your heart.
Ex JW here (cult cousins!) All of this is extremely relatable and I'm sending this to my ex jw chosen fam
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Question about your intro music: Since the song is now under copyright, do you have to worry about it still playing in old videos?
Yes 😢 I’ve had a couple of them get flagged.
It would be amazing if belief could be seen as personal and value neutral. But we know, from our years in The Church, that that's not possible. You are an apostate who was weak, deceived, and not valiant. Your choice is tragic. There will never be a candid conversation, which means we can't connect on any level other than the most careful and superficial.
@@Coastal1931 Thanks for your comment, James. When explaining to a believer that you can't summon the willingness to believe the Joseph Smith story, you are doing so with the full understanding that your committed friend does believe it, and fervently believes all of the down-story. I have many beloved and amazing LDS friends and relatives (including kids) with this kind of conviction. The only result, from that sort of exchange, is that the faithful member can't relate to my position and I can't relate to his. In my case, we're careful to be respectful when we discuss The Church but it's very different from speaking my heart candidly.
@jamesSwenson-kr2gz some of those challeng3s exist among the members as well.
That me taking charge of my own bodily autonomy and wearing what I want and getting piercings makes me feel pretty.
I used to hate how I looked, but I found the more I embraced the kinds of clothes I’m naturally drawn to, the better I felt about my body. Now I’m out and I look myself in the mirror and think, “dang!! I look great!! 😊 “ Rather frequently, because I’m able to express myself.
Well occurring to the latest GC they are cracking down on garments and reinstated the garment wearing in the temple worthiness interview
It’s hard when I’m out but spouse is in. Causing friction!
I'm in the same situation. I resigned 8 years ago, but my wife will never even question the church.
It's everything to her.
@@green97probe❤️🩹 So sorry.
I could stay in the church happily if I only did not have to profess belief in history and concepts that are demonstratively incorrect.
Another excellent video🎉 I also love the color and image of your shirt. Take care dear lady!
Nuanced believer here. I was just in a teacher training this past Sunday, where I pointed out that the scriptures are replete with competing priorities, and a healthy tension between opposing ideas can be constructive, just like how tensions are used in engineering to add structural strength.
So when seemingly conflicting views come from a place of goodness and sincerity, it’s an opportunity to broaden one’s understanding and avoid driving into pharisaical extremes, as opposed to digging in one’s heels and bearing testimony from a limited viewpoint.
Sadly, the conversation shifted right back to teaching “the” truth, and allowing children their agency.
It’s so hard not to commandeer these kinds of discussions.
I know I still have a difference in belief from most commenters here, but I do see and experience the conversational difficulties, and would want you to feel validated.
I remember when I was nuanced. From 2015 to 2020. It was like bashing my head into a brick wall.
I would speak up in places I could and bite my tongue and ruminate when I couldn't speak up.
I felt so alone in the dwindling pews and among devout family.
I clung to other nuanced and progressive member accounts online hunger for validation and hope.
But I stayed and I fought because I wanted it to be true and I needed it to change to be healthier and safer for my hurting loved ones.
Even though i didnt recognize it then and wouldn't have admitted it to myself, that's a hard place to be for any amount of time.
Take care of you.
@@piperarcher9706 wise words!
I’ve come to find that I think about truth claims very differently from most believers and nonbelievers, which is ok. I can coexist authentically with both sides, but it’s also lonely to an equal extent.
Luckily I don’t really have any family pressures to stay in or show a certain image. It’s just me and my conscience. So at this point I’m focused primarily on carving out space for my kids to make their own choices on engagement.
But yeah, trying to get people to change feels like banging your head against a wall, so I don’t aim for that result. I just want people to know that I’m a good person, and that my controversial positions are actually entirely defensible within a faith that often speaks out of both sides of its mouth.
Curious here as Why you think they actually do permit children agency?
@@marycruise9348 I think even most TBMs understand that you can’t teach gospel claims and values by outright force. At the same time, human nature is such that most people will default to projecting their own experience onto others, unless they’ve been actively taught to see and appreciate differentiation, so for many of these TBMs, honoring agency is the extent of that ability. It’s an entirely different mental skill set to be able to see the validity in a different paradigm, which is a real shame, as it’s an explicit faith requirement (mote and beam in the Bible, false traditions of their fathers in the BOM).
I've done a poo!
Someone else did it!
great video, as usual Lex
Can someone explain the garment = yeast infection thing to me?
Not😮brwathable material creates a huge problem of yeast and bladder infection and antibiotics are growing immune so the problems are likely to create some deaths in the future.
@@marycruise9348 Well that is... disturbing. Increasingly it is being recognised that symptoms which present as dementia or mental illness are actually caused by urinary tract infections...
@@Coastal1931 nice great helpful comment
@@Coastal1931 wow that is very applicable to my question!
Exmo Lex should read a biography of Joeseph Smith that is NOT church authorized. I'd like to hear her report/ review.
Thanks sis. Appreciate the help. ❤
I wish they knew that when the scriptures say that God answers prayers, it doesn't say that he only does it if you haven't sinned. Sincerity is the only requirement.
Well put. I think you explained this clearly and respectfully.
Dear Exmo Lex, I am a Father and Grandfather of whom you speak. I have adult children that after serving missions and temple marriages have left the church because of LDS truth claims. Yes they are good people and continue to live good lives but without the church. It was very heartbreaking at first but we have learned to respectfully navigate thru it. My biggest mistake was to not validate the original questions they had for me as important. I regret my lazy answer,”the Book of Mormon is true that’s all that matters”. It has been about ten years now and last year I retired and I decided to really search these claims out. These are the most basic things I’ve found, basic but important:
1) The Urim and Thummim were the only instruments used in the translation of the Book of Mormon. The stone in the hat story is a false claim.
2) Joseph Smith never practiced polygamy. In fact Joseph, Emma and Hyrum all fought against it. The Angel with a fiery sword is a false claim. Polygamy commanded by God is a false claim.(see Joseph Smith Papers)
3)The Divinely restored Gospel and essential priesthood keys survived the evils of polygamy and other early Utah false doctrines because of a handful of faithful families maintaining truth in the church. See familysearch.org and study the life of David O McKay, the prophet of my childhood. David O’s parents, David and Jeannette Mckay were immigrants from Scotland and Wales. David served as the Huntsville ward Bishop for years. They rejected polygamy and were faithful to each other and raised a righteous family, preparing young David to serve as a General Authority for 64 years, 19 of which he served as the President of the Church.
I honestly believe I have been led by the Spirit to remain faithful to the church and the restoration regardless of its messy history. I have been given answer after answer as I humbly ask. As a parent and Grandparent, I just ask you to give it a chance. Grandpa Dale
I really connected with your faith transition and watched you when you first started and enjoyed watching you from the mini van! Appreciate what you’re doing. ❤
Wait what!? Wearing garments is not a big deal anymore? It was like THE big deal when we were in the church (along with the hundred other things we were supposed to be doing)
The garment thing and open marriage totally baffles me. Then why are you still lds if you do that? 😆 🤦♀️
I wish I could talk about if I’m having a rough time or struggling with something in life. I love the life that I have now, but my partner and I are disabled and low income, so there are struggles that come with that. I feel like if I tell my Mormon family that some things are hard, they’ll think all the challenges I have in life are because I left the church :(
I’m also in a queer relationship that brings me a lot of joy and that I feel a lot of love in, but I also feel like I can’t talk about that
Do you mind making a video about the use of the word “natural human” in the mormon church?
“Den naturliga människan” is how it was said in swedish mormon church
I am glad that you see god as bigger than the mormon religion. I find it sad that cults ruin their idea of a loving father and throw god away for good. That's totally sad and I think you can tell your family that god is bigger than the mormon church. I think you have a good attitude and I will pray that you find god outside the church.
From what I hear they doubled down on garments at the last conference.
I felt like saying something like this.
Love you!❤
Lexi I enjoy your channel so much! I'm an Episcopalian. However as an Episcopalian we are generally encouraged to think about things including Scripture and being open to other cultures and other belief systems. You always give thoughtful perspectives. Quite frankly most other ex-Mormon channels can be saturated with cringe. You are not thank goodness! I've studied Mormonism. I don't understand whatsoever how anyone can convert to the religion or even non-Mormons who defend Mormonism. IT IS INSANE!!! This is coming from someone who respects other faith traditions.
I really like your honesty!
That first point really rings true with me, no one has ever asked me or my wife why we left or what we believe now, it was total radio silence on the subject. It was really weird to us, and even when we eventually asked some family members why they hadn't asked, and they said they just hadn't thought about it and didn't really want to know. It's still weird.
As a Latter Day Saint I loved this video and love that people are finding what works for them, one of the Articles of Faith says that we respect all religions and beliefs
I need to see that article because it has not been my experiemce. 😳
I just found it in the back of my quad, but you can find it on the church website, its the 11th article
l appreciate your bringing that up. That has not been my experience either.
@@CelestialComradesPerhaps they could teach it at Sacrament mtg.
Probably should, the assumption is the we already know it from primary, but we are taught many other things again and again for our benefit, and their are many adult converts, so I don’t know why it isn’t taught as often or why you guys haven’t heard about them
@@CelestialComrades I appreciate your reaching out in comradery. There has been so much dismissal, alienation and hurt. Here's reaching back in gratitude. 🌷
Do another video titled “What Mormons Wish They Could Say To Ex-Mormon Family “. That would be epic.
The first comment you read out is how I feel. Only my dad has ever really asked and that is frustrating! I know I'm a topic in their talks and lessons and family lessons, yet none of them have given me the chance to explain my self even a little bit. It sucks! If I bring it up, I'll likely be painted as the angry ex mormon and stuff so I have to just sit in silence for the sake of the relationships until one of them hopefully someday asks me why
Bald?