New SUPER VILLAIN Team Revealed in SHE-HULK?
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She-Hulk Episode 6 introduced a site titled Intelligencia. In the comics the Intelligence is a team of supervillains including characters such as The Leader, MODOK, Dr. Doom and more. They’re mission is to take over all the world's governments. We think that this tease in She-Hulk is confirmation that The Leader is involved in the plot to steal her blood. And we think this could be leading us straight into Captain America 4.
In this one we’ve got A LOT to talk about. She-Hulk episode 6 may have introduced a new team of supervillains into the MCU. So we’ve gotta talk The Leader, MODOK, Ulysses Klaue, Doctor Doom, Justin Hammer, Aldrik Killian, the Kingpin, and… Todd. So episode 6 introduced a website called Intelligencia.
This website is full of disturbing posts calling for the death of She-Hulk.
Now in the comics, Intelligencia is a group of highly intelligent supervillains founded by The Leader. The Leader was teased way back in 2008 in the Incredible Hulk. And is confirmed to be returning in Captain America 4.
We’ve speculated before that The Leader is very likely involved in this mission to steal Jen’s blood. Afterall, the Incredible Hulk film is the only film Sameul Stern has appeared in and that film revolved heavily around Hulk blood.
Bruce is working with “Mr. Blue”, aka Samuel Sterns, aka The Leader, to create an antidote to rid him of the Hulk. It’s also in this film that we see a sample of Bruce Banner’s blood drip into an open wound on Samuel Stern’s head that turns him into The Leader. Just how Bruce’s blood drips into an open wound on Jen and turns her into She-Hulk.
The Incredible Hulk also featured Emil Blonsky’s The Abomination who of course has also appeared in She-Hulk.
In Incredible Hulk it was Blonsky who forced Sterns to turn him into what would become The Abomination.
So it just seems very likely that if there’s a plot to steal some hulk blood, in a show that has focused heavily on hulk blood.
Now while we haven’t seen any Mr. Blue usernames on Inteligencia, that doesn’t mean that he isn’t the mysterious HulkKing. Or that he isn’t at least behind the operations at the lab we saw in episode 6.
I think it’s likely that Smaeul Stern will get his classic comic name “The Leader” simply by being referred to as “The Leader” of this mission to get hulk blood and do god knows what with it. More on that in a bit.
In our most recent She-Hulk easter egg video I failed to give a rundown of the Inteligencia team from the comics. [clip, gasp]
Don’t worry, Doug already got on to me for it and threatened to fire me if I screw up again.
Doug: Yeah I got my eye on you new guy
So let’s talk about which villains could be involved in this big operation and what exactly it is they’re planning on doing with HulkBlood.
Let’s start with MODOK.
MODOK is another key member of the Intelligencia team. And just like The Leader will be appearing in Captain America 4. MODOK is confirmed to be appearing in Antman and the Wasp Quantumania. And rumor has it he’ll be played by Corey Stolls who of course played Darren Cross’s Yellow Jacket in the first Antman film.
After his supposed death in Antman, it would make perfect sense that he was actually mutilated and then lost deep in the Quantum realm. And it is there that he likely came across other civilizations that we know exist in the Quantum realm and it is there he created his new suit and became, MODOK. [clip]
And now here he is ready to exact revenge on Scott Lang. Sounds awesome. But, if we meet MODOK in Quantumania in the Quantum realm. I don’t know how he’d be involved with The leader in this mission to steal hulk blood. Perhaps it’s possible that he’s already made his way out of the Quantum realm and has teamed up with The Leader to create an army of super powered individuals they can use to take over the world.
While The Leader is focused on the Hulk powers, perhaps MODOK, aka Darren Cross, is plotting to yet again weaponize the Pym particle.
Imagine that, Hulks that can shrink and go giant mode.
In the comics MODOK works very closely with AIM. AIM, or Advanced Idea Mechanics, is a criminal organization of mad scientists whose mission is to take over all of the world's governments using their expertise in technology.
Now we’ve heard mention of AIM before in the MCU. Aldrik Killian, aka the fiery dude from Iron Man 3, aka the Mandarin, but not really. - Кино
What villains are you hoping to see before the end of She-Hulk?
The leader
Honestly, I'd like to see Titania and She-Hulk's rivalry developed a bit more 🤔
Doctor Doom
M.O.D.O.K
Jake Paul
“Stupid new guy” Doug is the best! 🤣🤣🤣
I replayed that 4 times, Doug you really are the best....
Doug *needs* his own channel and merch line
love Doug
@@momaw_C1-10P I would buy Doug Merch!! I support all good doggos of the internet, but he is the best because he also feeds my nerd brain!!
😂😂
Low-key super happy our boy is on vacation. This is one of my favorite channels and Ryan deserves a break for all the hard work he does. Plus he gave us videos while he’s gone? That is above and beyond. Also Doug is doing an awesome job holding down the fort 🤘🏻
Couldn’t have said it any better myself!
Definitly, when do you think Doug'll get his vacations and a stand-in? 😋
Doug for President!
I completely agree. Ryan and Screencrush is one of my all time favorite channels. No one beats Ryan at breakdowns, explanations, and Easter-Eggs. I hope he’s having a great vacation.
Couldn't agree more. Well said! Enjoy vacation, Ryan!
I think Marvel kept certain characters out of the D23 Thunderbolts reveal so they wouldn't spoil the end of She-Hulk. It's a very real possibility that Abomination and some version of the Red Hulk joins the Thunderbolts by the time the movie comes out 🤔
The actor for Thunderbolt Ross is dead
@@SaintoftheHonest we still have sam elliot from the 2003 hulk movie. might be weird to recast him with an actor who already played him before, but i think he could do a great job nonetheless :)
Definitely seems weird that the current thunderbolts line up is mostly cpt america types: bucky, task master, red guardian and us agent. If you ask me thats a lot of basically the same kind of guy. I'd be surprised if the lineup doesn't drastically change.
@@GpeterKostwinder Although I wouldn't mind seeing him in the role, Disney would never hire him. He made some 'controversial' comments recently that they wouldn't agree with, similar to what happened with Gina Carano
@@SaintoftheHonest Yeah RIP but they never revealed that thunderbolt ross would be the Red Hulk
The Extremis powers are very similar to some of Red Hulk's abilities, since his body temperature rises the angrier he gets, so I'm thinking it makes sense that mixing Extremis with Gamma-radiated (She-)Hulk blood is probably how they're gonna make the "perfect" (Red) Hulk.
That's brilliant, wow
Would be crazy to reveal the Leader was heavily planning and working in the background while everyone was busy with Thanos and stuff !
Honestly, this would be the most logical explanation. I think he's been keeping tabs on Bruce for a long time ever since the Avengers first assembled
Great comment, also wonder if he was blipped for five years which also helped with the reason for the leader not showing up
7:29 I'm guessing Kingpin got his super strength from the Power Broker 🤔
You're crushin' it, Colton. Sure, we'll be glad to have Ryan back, but you're pretty good at this also.
Thank you so much.
@@ColtonHere You're better imo
@Colten great job my guy, love that you guys work together to keep dropping videos. ✊🏾
Thanks so much, Carl!
Shoutout Colton for stepping in to give us some content while Ryan is on vacay 🙏🏾
11:56 It's been theorized that The Leader is obsessed with figuring out how to match his strength with his Intelligence 🤔
You tell em Doug!
I love Todd's actor. He can make you believe he is just some goofy, totally harmless, and weird dude. And yet he has this dangerous air about him.
Also, I wonder if The Leader is just looking for a cure for Hulks (himself and others) to depower himself and others who want to back to normal. Alternatively, probably making Hulk Army and the blood did make him a bit nuts. Maybes on maybes lol
The way Jennifers blood stabelized Bruces could be something the Leader needs to be done aswell... but how he knew Jennifers blood would be a key factor is the mystery...
The Leader's thing is that he's super smart, right? Maybe he's keeping tabs on all of Bruce's research, and his findings from Jen's blood gave him exactly what he needed?
Awesome video, Colton, you're doing a great job! And thanks for answering "my" question from the last video!
I think it’s fairly possible that every movie in phase 4 is actually not connected to each other and are actually branching universes
Thanks ScreenCrush
Great video and you make some phenomenal points appreciate all that is put into these, hope Ryan is having a wonderful vacation much deserved and the beloved Doug is the best 😊
"You know the Abomination?" The Leader:"Know him? I NAMED him. He's my CREATION."
Love Doug! Glad Ryan is able to take a break!! Thank you SC for everything!!!
GREAT job Colton, thanks for filling in so Ryan could have some much deserved Bacta Tank time :-). First time I’ve heard you, but I went a subbed to your channel
Colton as always... nailed it. I loved the video. Relaxing, easy to follow for someone who doesn't read comic books.
Thank you so much!
Me remembering the leader in that mcu comic where he was captured by black widow/shield so while it has been a while, the movie was not the last we saw of him
I feel like they could pay Chet in cheetos in exchange for family blood.
7:47-7:52 That shoe might actually represent Leapfrog.
10:11 It would be very surprising to see Titania help She-Hulk, considering their rivalry.
Okay, but hear me out. Maybe this is how we get Betty Ross Red-Hulk.
doug is such a good boy!
It's like megaman (2 and 3), where after the new 8 villains, you have to battle versions of old bosses of previous installments.
Imagine in WWH, having Jen, Bruce and Emil teaming up to take down a Hulk army created by the Inteligencia.
I believe Todd is AIM's Scientist Supreme
That makes sense actually 🤔
I am really hoping the Abomination has turned over that new leaf and helps Jen out. As this last episode of She-Hulk reminded me, Roth is an amazing actor, both serious and comedic. Keeping him as a Thunderbolt style protagonist (i.e. not-Avengers-good-guy-but-still-a-bit-superhero). His sidekick can be Princess Silk Feather.
When pecked by a radioactive chicken...
This is my theory, Todd will become the Red Hulk.
I think it would be cool if the Disney+ shows were building up to a big event like Netflix did with The Defenders......🤔
Oh Great Job Doug!!! What a good boy!!!💖💝😍🐶
..... good voice new guy.
My Boy Ryan needed some time off, much needed time off. You still did a good job buddy!
I think Todd & Mallory are behind the Intelligencia website and that's why they were meeting. That's why Mallory didn't want Nikki to tell Jen about the site.
I love u guys i clicked instantly
All very exciting theorycrafting. I can't wait.
Jon Bass was listed as Hulk-Todd in the credits of the show already
I enjoyed the MODOK series, and absolutely LOVED Hit Monkey!!! So underated!!!
Hope Kingpin gets iron man suit in Armor Wars like the comic run.
I think this could be an "origin story" of the red hulk. Thunderbolt Ross being The Hulking.
Or using Pym's particles creating Goliath and others that grow mixing procedures. Pym Particles/ion energy for Goliath but changing to fit Hulk blood. They have changed how others have gotten powers/created examples Ultron, Photon, and Ms. Marvel.
The modok clip made me laugh every time haha
Did it bring you to your knees? 😂
She hulk giving us a “Blood Brothers” ritual essentially. I’m still not convinced that Bruce couldn’t do the transfusion himself, and that’s why it was changed for the show.
C'mon Doug, you can do it boy!
You got to love the dog!!!!! lol
Really good video Colton like yo see you more
There’s still three more episodes and I’m wondering where the frog-man just as much as I’m waiting for Daredevil. 😅
Look, i may be the only one but im thinking thunderbolt ross is the hulk king or atleast involved. Kingpin could likely be the hulk king and the “perfect hulk” since he has hulk like strength and no signs of green or gamma. He could be the Leader’s perfect creation. The Leader could just be a lower level grunt thats promoted once they see what hes done with kingpin. But thunderbolt ross is involved and we will see him as red hulk or a similar mirrored version of the leaders tease. Also, im convinced Emil is reformed and would be heart broken if he wasnt. Maybe the inhibitor is used as a way to control him and pull out abomination while suppressing Emil. Im also still hoping that the netflix shows are canon.
Klaw may be revived same way as in the comics where he has a body made of "solidified sound" (could be vibranium in the MCU, or some copy of the Vision body)
The Leader looks so funny in the thumbnail 😂
“Blood mixing in with someone else’s blood” is kinda funny. It’s pretty hard to get someone else’s blood “in” yours considering all of it is under pressure, rushing out of your body when that pressure system is compromised. Viruses and germs are made to invade easily but blood itself doesn’t rush out of someone’s body to rush into some else’s body that is also rushing out their own blood too. It’s always weird that they treat hulks gamma radiated blood like some kind of pathogen when the only blood that requires that kind of consideration is blood with pathogens in it.
That, and if two different blood types mix, they turn into cottage cheese.
That thumbnail is absolutely killing me 😂 my damn ribs hurt.
Great video.. but that thumbnail looks more like the impossible man than the leader 😂
Kind of would explain who the mysterious Buyer in Antman and the Wasp was . . . (and I posted this before the mention of Aldrich Killian lol).
What if the guy who called jen a specimen is the leaders right hand guy gargoyle? Gargoyle was in the animated series The incredible Hulk and he was obsessed with Jen in the cartoon series.
I had the same thought as well. Between Jon Bass being credited as "Hulk Todd" in the credits during the premier, Todd having a creeper vibe like Gargoyle, and the rumor of Intelligencia having a misshapen hulk leader, there's a real possibility that we could see Gargoyle, or even an MCU version of Madman.
Maybe Todd is the Scientist Supreme?
Nobody has noticed how in the close up shot of the needle , it looks like the person has green skin - leader confirmed .
Doug has looked sad in Ryan’s absence. Poor fella.
Doug you got this! I have faith in you buddy!
Not to mention a.i.m has the hive theme with hexagons.haha
Am I the only one that forgets all the time Doug isn't really talking? The fact Ryan is on vacation and he's still talking, is kinda messing w my mind.
My theory about Blonski at least is that he is hired or blackmailed into being the one who might be able to actually use the needle on her, but, whether he is still a bad guy, he owes Jen one and this would be his repayment to her of helping her turn her attention to whoever is behind this effort. And that could be when she and Matt meet up because they happen to be arriving at the same time.
Which is why I suspect the Boss is Fisk too (also, Wrecking Crew kind of seems like a west coast Tracksuit Mafia) but this is just a step in a grander plan.
But it might not be Fisk we find here, it may just be Todd.
Guys, forget kingpin enhancing methods from Netflix to d+. It’s the same actor, different character. As it is to Daredevil. Confirmed at d23 by Kevin himself.
Clearly he always has been that strong at the MCU
Is this a re-upload?
Ryan didn't take Doug on vacation with him? You Monster!
I think after secret wars in all honesty villains like Doctor Doom the Leader maybe modok because he could have faked his death in Antman 3 mandarin and many other villains could return in phase 7 and beyond
With the Leader being confirmed to return I can't help but think his lackey Gargoyle will be making his MCU appearance. With that said, I think he already has in the form of "creepy" Todd. In the Hulk and She-Hulk cartoon gargoyle always made creepy unwanted advances to She-Hulk.
ALSO speaking of the old cartoon, Ched is going to be the MCU's Rick Jones. Calling it now lol
The whole YellowJacket thing, it’d make sense for him being Modok because we saw a giant YellowJacket Head in Loki ( unless that was just an Easter egg for what’s to come )
Which episode of loki?
And also, New Guy you did good!
That is NOT a Thunderbolts' lineup... That is a joke on Veep and Stranger things
Im saying it now, the " perfect hulk " stern wants to make is going to be turning general ross into the red hulk
Specimen boy!( Watch out)💯
Have a good vacation Ryan.
Ryan is on vacation. Meanwhile I can't access the video about House of the Dragon about...don't even know
Imagine if the dad from Modern Family, returns to the MCU as a powered Doc Sampson?
i wouldnt mind Klaue coming back. Hes one of my favorite villains
Daredevil is out in LA because he needs to pickup his new suit.
Just when they were going to fire poor Doug, he’s now starring as a lead in the videos!
He’s interviewing with Vox, it will be a super good fit.
Same actor who played stern was in fan4stic 😉
Does anyone else think Todd looks like what we expect Simon Williams to look like?
I love that marvel forgot about the cannon comic of black widow killing the leader after incredible hulk
Doug is my favorite.
Right on time 😁😎✌🏼
Nice breakdown tho ✌🏼😎👍🏻
Ryan definitely would have put a Somehow Palpatine Returned clip in there somewhere.
"What?!?!" - Princess Leia
That was Frogman, NOT Doom in the shoe display.
Figure it out man. Damn.
Hope everything is ok Ryan
they literally said at the beginning of this phase that they would be bringing back all the villains with doors left open... that was a year ago. way to catch that theme now new guy...
This video brought the comedic device of repetition to its knees.
Ohhhh what a boss move to bring back a bunch of the early villains that "others" have been joking for years about "disposable bald baddies", LoL take that trolls! Ok LoL
What about The Power Broker? Was Sharon Carter talking to The Leader on the phone at the end of "Falcon and the Winter Soldier"?
Todd shows up with a metal straw in a drink.. weird that it's a metal straw. Looks like the same size as the needle later.
One other possible villain funding everything is Sharon Carter..or Val..Sharon Carter is definitely going to be in New World Order and Armor Wars
I think the leader is in a laboratory and is unstable and needs jen’s blood to recover completely, this will give us the answer to where was he all this time, and then he’ll get the blood and will be the villain in captain America 4
Could we be including what happened in the story arc of hammer where aim scientists collect tissue samples from all the different Heroes and replicated it
Doug definitely could handle his own for a while video if he only had thumbs 😂
AIM will always be Roberto’s organization of ragtag scientists trying to better the world. The MODOK AIM has been out of commission for way too long. (I hope this is still the case, I’ve not seen much of Sunspot in any of the Krakoa X books I’ve been keeping up with)
It could be Todd is part of AIM if we're going down this road.
Doug you are doing great 👍
We get a World War Hulk movie. In introduces Skaar, then we get a Hulk team with him, The Hulk, She-Hulk, Abomination. Wouldn't that be nice.