great gentleman who explains everything in detail. this topic is very interesting to me, because you explained everything that needed to be explained. Stay safe and have a good trip! Greetings from Serbia!
Sir your information in this series is extremely thorough and helpful. It was instrumental in me shopping for and purchasing a 2016 pikes peak. Thank you very much for the time and effort required to put all of this together. Wishing you more miles and smiles on your multi!
Hello Snipes, and thankyou for your comment. The 2016 dvt pikes peak is a beautiful bike, congratulations on your purchase. This is the multistrada I would choose. Best wishes Carl
Hello AI M, and welcome to the channel. Thankyou for your feedback 👍 and I hope you have a great time with your multistrada they are great bikes. Best wishes Carl
Thanks for the videos, I also find being of similar age that the Multistrada is a superb motorcycle and I have done over 30,000 miles trouble free on them over the last 5 years, the bike fits me perfectly and I love the grunt, cheers
Great video, really like your no-nonsense presenting style :) I've had my 2013 Multi 1200s for around the same length of time you've had yours, so it's going to be really interesting to watch the series. Came in at the front sprocket replacement episode, a mod I've been wanting to do for a while. Thanks for all the work you've put into this, really appreciate it!!
Nice review. Good advices. I bought an Multi 1000 SDS two Years ago. I was keen on trying something different after 22 Years on my Softail. ( still got It). I am 197 cm tall, so the Multi was a perfect fit. The Ducati Is from 2006, 50 000 km on the meter, so fun to drive. And I was prepared for the fact that this Is an complicated MC. l have corrected some issues done by previous owners. I am a bit of a Gearhead, and I even enjoy the Hours In my Garage. Best wishes from Terje In Norway.
Hello Terje, welcome to the channel, thank you for sharing and it sounds like you have found a nice original Multistrada and have started going through it and sorting things out. I have not riden the original version... perhaps I should 😏 Best wishes Carl
Hi Tony, and welcome how long have you owned the 1200S. If it's new to you a couple of oil changes to clean things out can help improve things. But you might have already done this... smile. Carl
Yes, I did all the necessary services including desmo service. I'm kidding, it has a typical ducati sound, everything is ok, I've owned a motorcycle for two years, it was bought with a complete service history and documentation. I have no problems so far, although I have only covered 7000 km, I am planning a little more this year. Thanks for your reply
Hi Carl (Karl?), I love your channel and your attitude. I am currently looking for a used Multistrada and am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you so much for your efforts.
I am looking for a 2013-2014 (twin spark) 1200 with low mileage. (Not shit, Captain Obvious ☺️) Unfortunatelly there are no basic versions in the market in my area. Only Skyhooks in Austria …😒
Hi, yes it’s not easy finding a base version and finding one that is in good condition is also not easy…. But well worth the time and effort Good luck hunting Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis found a 2012 1200S today in mint condition with only 15k on the clock but with the Skyhook-system. Will look at it on the weekend. Fingers crossed.
Good video. I have the 2010 1200s multistrada, which I have owned a couple of years now. I have owned a few different bikes over the years. As age is catching up with me, the multistrada seemed the best option as itis powerful and pretty comfortable. Looking forward to your videos.
A well ridden Multistrada will keep up with just about everything else, and as your finding out... they are comfortable too. Thankyou for your positive comments.
Great video, my only comment would be the electronic ohlins on the 2011 1200s was very good and if you got the ohlins SCU you essentially got the best of both worlds, semi active suspension with the ohlins.
@@justthewayitis I Just sold my 11 multi for a 17 year multi enduro, love the multi but I wanted a true ADV bike and the enduro is fantastic, like you say, they are expensive to keep running but they are a joy to ride. Keep the rubber side down! :)
Hi Joshua, then I wish you lots of fun on your Adventure model. You must have long legs because when I tried on I couldn’t reach the floor with my feet, and I’m 6 ft / 1.83m tall. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis I'm also a 6ft-er, I find it to be adequate, I can just about flat foot when tipped over slightly at the lights, there are various seat options for riders much shorter than us to make the bike manageable! It's a true ADV bike, I absolutely love it, I'd say If you ever get the chance to adjust the seat, give it another go! All the best out there.
The 1260 is a very well sorted Multistrada, i think you will have lots of fun when your new bike arrives. I have ridden the new V4S twice now, both times i went away feeling that the 1200 DVT and 1260 have much more useable mid-range pull. Carl
Great video series. Going to test drive a 2019 1290S on Saturday. Also comparing to a new KTM Adventure S for the same money. Would rather have the Ducati. Always wanted one but i hate reliability gremlins...
Hi JR, well these days they are all very good bikes, you cant really make a bad choice. We have one 1290 adventure in our bike club, and the owners loves it. Yes the Ducati's are nice... but like you say....be careful. Best wishes Carl
Great information, well done for this profound research! I have only one question regarding the difference of the suspension between the 2013 base and S models. You mentioned that the feel on the S model wasn't exactly what you expected and with the base (non electronic) version the "issue" didn't exist. Can you please please explain a little bit further the difference between the two in terms of actual parts that consists the suspension? Why the technician suggested to find a base version? Is there a more practical explanation considering, as far as I am concerned, that the only difference is the presence of the electronics? Thank you
Hello G, I tested both versions and did not like the lack of feel and feedback from the front on the S model ( I tried two different S models) and I much preferred the feeling from the base version. Plus it’s fully manual so I was further able to set the bike up how I like it. The S was very popular and for most owners it’s brilliant and very capable. It is just personal preference Carl
Hello Carl what is your thought on comparing a 2022 BMW R1250 GS I purchased new last December and trading it in for a 2023 Ducati Multi Strada Rally version with all the bells and whistles. I have the rally version of the GS like you and like it but was considering the blind spot technology and the advanced cruise control on the Ducati. I know BMW just came out with the 1300 GS but will not be discounting anytime soon. I have just over 10,000 miles on the GS and can get a good deal on either the Ducati Pikes Peak or Rally at the end of season here in the Chicago area. I value your opinion and have added numerous accessories to the GS. I don’t do any off riding, I’m 65 and am afraid of breaking something and ending my riding career which I very much enjoy. So this would be for road touring and everyday riding occasionally having my wife on the back. I appreciate any feedback you might have. Thank you for any consideration Duane
Hello Duane Both are lovely bikes, but it depends on your riding style and requirements, i would probably go Pikes Peak if I was to choose but I tend to ride a little quicker than most. And I do love the kit and looks of the PP. Can you test ride both ? That would be the best way forward for you. Also I’m not sure if the ride height on the Rally version is higher than the PP, that might be a consideration for you too. Let me know which you decide on …. Lucky you to have two great bikes to choose between Carl
I swear Carl this bike is driving me mad. Changed the fork seals and oil 5000 miles ago to find them blown again today. And it's losing petrol from the pipe under the tank on the top of the horizontal cylinder connecting to some sort of 3 way metal splitter. I've had it since January and though the bike is amazing to ride, I'm thinking of selling it.
Hi Mike, good morning, sad to hear of your problems. It’s frustrating when problems keep happening when all we want to do is ride and enjoy so I understand your thoughts. When the Multistrada is running without issues….. it’s hard to beat for a rewarding ride, but like you say…. Regular issues dilute the ownership experience. Best wishes on Sunday Carl
Great video, looking forward to more, im in the market for a bike soon, thought long and hard about the multi, was put off though by horrendous reliability issues, screens failing etc, be intrested to hear your thoughts on this, and how you have found them. So far im looking at a super tenere 1200 which have supurb long term reliabilty, and maybe africa twin.
Hi Max, thank you for your comments, and I agree, deciding to become a Ducati owner is not a simple decision mainly because of, as you have highlighted… reliability issues. If you can perform your own repairs and maintenance and you move into Ducati ownership knowing about the potential problems that will occur… it can be an ok / nice experience. But it is still not like owning a well-built reliable Japanese Motorbike. I am currently working on the next two episodes…all about reliability issues. I hope you enjoy them. Carl
Hi ! Your Multistrada is standard version 2013-2014. Front Suspension on your bike is gold coulor…I’m looking to buy exactly same bike but all standard version that I see from that year got silver forks. Is there some diffrenece betwen them ? Thank you !!
Hi, mine is the Manual suspension version not the skyhook, normally for 2013/14 the skyhook version is silver and almost all the bikes for sale have skyhook. You can easily tell by looking for the preload adjustment at the top of the forks. The skyhook version doesn’t have it. The Gold manual one does. Hope that helps you 👍 Regards Carl
Great info. I was in the market for a 700 /800 cc bike (think tenere 700, BMW f750/850gs), but I drove a 1200 2018 multistrada and got hooked. I'm from Portugal and I've seen some 2010 multistradas for sale (40-60k kms) as well as some from 2014 (same mileage, around 2000/3000 euros more expensive). What are some features I should look for when buying? Desmo service is one of the points to be aware of, right?
The easiest ones to work on are the 2010 - 2014 versions, try to find one with a service history ideally Ducati service history. Remember.... at that age, condition is far more important than mileage. So, a dealer serviced 2012 model with 50K would be a better buy than say a 2014 version with only 30K and poor or no service history. The Desmo service is the big one, she will need belts and valve adjustment... this needs to be completed by someone who knows what they are doing. So, finding a Multi that has this service done is a good start. One last tip... try joining your local Ducati forum and ask for a recommend local independent mechanic. you can save a lot of money if you can find one in your area, and they might know someone who is selling their bike. Check the oil, make sure its clean and has no signs of water in it, take each bike for good road test… 30 mins minimum to make sure you get the bike HOT and there are no issues. Make sure all the electronics work, horn, heated grips and fuel gauge are common failures. I will be covering these in later videos… Have Fun
Great video I just got mine 2012 Multistrada 1200 touring. Friends are saying it's a headache bike will be more in the shop then on the road but I am in love. Is it a reliable bike????
Hi Vladimir, have a read through all the comments below, and you will find that some owners have experience virtually no issues or problems, while others have. Yes it is a great bike and your going to have a lot of fun. Enjoy your Multi and don't worry about what might never happen. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis I got a white "S" model , 21,000 miles and a number of extras ! I'm 69 and have ridden my whole life, never gave cruise control a second thought, but it is nice!!! 😁😁😁🏍🏍🍺🍺 repairing the beak area , wacked a deer a month ago!! 😦😦😦
Hi Kevin, I’m not home at the moment but if you watch the latest video on my channel BMW 2 year review I’ve put the part numbers for the tank bag in that video, crash bars are OEM Ducati Regards Carl
Hello what are the main problems of the multistrada 2010, and what about getting a multistrada 2010 or a yamaha tracer 900gt 2020 with the same prices?
Hello Hitman and welcome to the channel. This is a great question...👍 The 2010 MT is a great bike and most problems will by now be sorted by previous owners, if you can find a good well looked after one they offer a great deal of performance. But reliability is still a concern. I think if I was completely honest, as of now 2022, I would choose the Yamaha GT because your getting warranty and great value and a super capable bike. Let us all know which bike you decide to buy. Best wishes Carl
Hello, you haven't mentioned condition or service history or wether its private or a dealer. If it's a dealer make sure you have some warranty. Most things are covered in the multistrada series on the channel, but by now most issues will have been resolved. Make sure EVERYTHING electrical works as it should and go for a least a 25 min ride to make sure the engine and gearbox work correctly when hot. Also the next valve check and adjustment is due at 30k, so calculate that service into your calculations. It's not cheap... They are great bikes, I wish you lots of fun. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you so much for your reply and for making your Multistrada videos. Been watching the religiously in my lunch breaks. Best wishes and ride on.
So is there a problem with electronic suspension system? Is there a problem or you wont feel and confident on them? What was the problem with what they felt?
On the early 2013-2014 bikes the manual suspension was much better (IMO) than Skyhook, because you can feel what is happening between the tyre and the road. Once the manual suspension is setup correctly its very very good.
Its a nice bike, just check the front fork seals are not leaking.... take it for a test ride of 30 mins first, then check the forks to see if they leak any oil.
After owning many many Yamaha’s Suzuki’s and Kawasaki’s, I just got myself a 2016 multistrada 1200 enduro with 30.000km and I am mostly wondering how owning a Ducati is such a different experience from owning a Honda… (although I never owned a Honda)
Hello Tim, i am currently editing Part 4 which is going to cover gearbox issues, and i would like to use your great question in the next video, is this ok for you ?
Hi Carl I’ve recently purchased a 2014 multi and stumbled across your channel. Brilliant! But I must say makes me slightly concerned regarding issues. I have subscribed because you are very good at explaining things so will deffo be taking your advice should I encounter issues. You can see my bike over on my channel its the 2014 with the skyhook suspension. Thankyou 👍
Hello, although you are subscribed I cant see your channel and look at your Multi. it might be that you have ticked the ' remain anonymous' option which is why I can't see you or your channel. But... dont worry... you are going to have a lot of fun on your 2014 multi. I smile every time I leave the house...yes you might have an issue or two but overall it's a great bike. I have a couple of episodes coming up over the next few weeks that you and your 2014 might like. Gearing change and exhaust value remove... which make a HUGE difference. Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks buddy thats strange about the channel. Its “CRAZYLEGS ON A BIKE” i will deffo keep watching your videos as they are very informative 👍👍
Ah... now i see it, Silver 1200 S GT... very nice indeed, and quite rare, and with the full luggage set. ...Great looking bike with all the extras as standard.
You made a mistake in your testing of the Sky hook suspension system. The mistake you made is that the system learns how you ride and adjusts over a period of time. You most likely didnt ride far enough to allow it to “learn” your riding to settle in on its settings. They do feel a little off when you first ride one until it adjusts to your methods of riding.
I do understand your comment, but for me at least it's more about the feeling of connection between the tyre and road which I found lacking with the skyhook system, other owners also feel the same. I do think that the newer versions are much better and this is something that is constantly improving. Carl
@@justthewayitis I have realized the electronic complications way more than necessary and not really as comfortable as claimed. A well tuned and setup standard suspension is just as comfortable. Not that fond of the ride modes either, Enduro is just stiff and the bike doesn't handle well for me on gravel roads, I've tried, and urban is just mushy. Preload is the most useful of the shock settings in the DSS. And I don't mess with them very much once they are set. It's the luddite part of me that wants less complication. I didn't come to that conclusion until after riding it for a couple years.
@@justthewayitis Danke. Gruss aus den schönen Cotswolds. Übrigens: Ich musste gerade an meiner 2011er, standart MTS (15.000 mls on it) mit Marzocchi Gabel, die Simmeringe austauschen. Die rechte Seite war undicht. Kommt also auch vor. Ich habe einen Kit von All Ball Racing(56-145) für 22 quid gekauft, der super funktioniert.
I would think that with new fork seals and fresh oil the front forks feel much better. I am glad your enjoying the bike. I was in Great Malvern before I left the uk. Not far from you. Lovely area and great roads. Carl
Ducati is really heading down a terrible path. Ducati IS L-twin and when they part with that engine it is just enough for me. I know that Iwill never buy a new Ducati again. Thankfully I still have a low milage Multistrada 1200s.
Hello and welcome, I think your not the only owner to think this. As much as I enjoyed my test of the V4S I was disappointed with a couple of things and the engine was the main one. It does not sound anything like the lovely L twin and for me was missing that low down grunt I have come to love. I actually did think... what would it have been like with the original L twin engine?. But many new owners seem very happy with the new version. Best wishes Carl
Not my best work as it was my first ever video that I made to help other owners. I do get much better as the series progresses. We all have to start somewhere. Kind regards Carl
Hi Nite Owl, the complete series is the review of the 2013 multistrada. Part 1, which you commented on, was my very first episode. Im not a professional and I make these episodes to help and support other multistrada owners, and let's not forget the whole series is free....I do the best I can. Carl
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great gentleman who explains everything in detail. this topic is very interesting to me, because you explained everything that needed to be explained. Stay safe and have a good trip! Greetings from Serbia!
Hi Niko, thank you for your message 🙏, much appreciated.
Kind regards Carl
Sir your information in this series is extremely thorough and helpful. It was instrumental in me shopping for and purchasing a 2016 pikes peak. Thank you very much for the time and effort required to put all of this together. Wishing you more miles and smiles on your multi!
Hello Snipes, and thankyou for your comment. The 2016 dvt pikes peak is a beautiful bike, congratulations on your purchase. This is the multistrada I would choose. Best wishes Carl
Just bought a 2014 S-Granturismo...wanted one since they came out. Good series!!
Hello AI M, and welcome to the channel. Thankyou for your feedback 👍 and I hope you have a great time with your multistrada they are great bikes.
Best wishes Carl
Thanks for the videos, I also find being of similar age that the Multistrada is a superb motorcycle and I have done over 30,000 miles trouble free on them over the last 5 years, the bike fits me perfectly and I love the grunt, cheers
Hello Nozzer thankyou, and yes they are great bikes 👍
You are just the guy I was looking on RUclips
Hi Gogos and welcome to the channel. Carl
Interesting perspective of the Multistrada. Looking forward to more in-depth opinions. Cheers
Hi Chad, more to follow but it takes a lot of time to put these episodes together. Carl
Thank you for this honest review. I also am looking for either a KTM Duke GT, BMW S1000XR or the Ducati Multistrada.
Your input is very useful to me!
Hi Martin you’re very welcome 👍
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment and good luck with your next bike, all 3 are very good.
Carl
Great video, really like your no-nonsense presenting style :) I've had my 2013 Multi 1200s for around the same length of time you've had yours, so it's going to be really interesting to watch the series. Came in at the front sprocket replacement episode, a mod I've been wanting to do for a while. Thanks for all the work you've put into this, really appreciate it!!
Hello SS and welcome to the channel, thank you for the compliment. I know my episodes need improvement and slowly I am getting better... I hope. Carl
Nice review. Good advices. I bought an Multi 1000 SDS two Years ago.
I was keen on trying something different after 22 Years on my Softail.
( still got It). I am 197 cm tall, so the Multi was a perfect fit.
The Ducati Is from 2006, 50 000 km on the meter, so fun to drive.
And I was prepared for the fact that this Is an complicated MC.
l have corrected some issues done by previous owners.
I am a bit of a Gearhead, and I even enjoy the Hours In my Garage.
Best wishes from Terje In Norway.
Hello Terje, welcome to the channel, thank you for sharing and it sounds like you have found a nice original Multistrada and have started going through it and sorting things out. I have not riden the original version... perhaps I should 😏
Best wishes Carl
great video! I own a 2010 multistrada 1200s and i'm thrilled even though it sounds like a tractor. I had no problems. greetings from bosnia
Hi Tony, and welcome how long have you owned the 1200S. If it's new to you a couple of oil changes to clean things out can help improve things. But you might have already done this... smile. Carl
Yes, I did all the necessary services including desmo service. I'm kidding, it has a typical ducati sound, everything is ok, I've owned a motorcycle for two years, it was bought with a complete service history and documentation. I have no problems so far, although I have only covered 7000 km, I am planning a little more this year. Thanks for your reply
Hi Tony, LOL....ok, now I understand...smile. It sounds like you have your self a very nice Multistrada . Carl
Hi Carl (Karl?), I love your channel and your attitude. I am currently looking for a used Multistrada and am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you so much for your efforts.
I need to answer on my own comment 😀
I can feel you so much and I started my biking "career" with a Honda MT-5. OMG
Hi PC, thank you, and good luck with your purchase, which year and model are you looking for ?
Carl
I am looking for a 2013-2014 (twin spark) 1200 with low mileage. (Not shit, Captain Obvious ☺️)
Unfortunatelly there are no basic versions in the market in my area. Only Skyhooks in Austria …😒
Hi, yes it’s not easy finding a base version and finding one that is in good condition is also not easy…. But well worth the time and effort
Good luck hunting
Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis found a 2012 1200S today in mint condition with only 15k on the clock but with the Skyhook-system.
Will look at it on the weekend. Fingers crossed.
Gsxr 1100 and diadora boots , you’d have been my hero when I was 16/17 in 1990😂
Lol, I thought I was Kevin Schwantz in 1990 but clearly I couldn't ride like my hero. I should have kept the GSXR11, 👍, best wishes Carl
Props for starting the channel! Appreciate the review!
Thank you..
Good video. I have the 2010 1200s multistrada, which I have owned a couple of years now. I have owned a few different bikes over the years. As age is catching up with me, the multistrada seemed the best option as itis powerful and pretty comfortable. Looking forward to your videos.
A well ridden Multistrada will keep up with just about everything else, and as your finding out... they are comfortable too. Thankyou for your positive comments.
Great video, my only comment would be the electronic ohlins on the 2011 1200s was very good and if you got the ohlins SCU you essentially got the best of both worlds, semi active suspension with the ohlins.
Hi , yes I had that was a good solution and that those owners that have done this notice a nice improvement 👍.
Thank you 🙏
@@justthewayitis I Just sold my 11 multi for a 17 year multi enduro, love the multi but I wanted a true ADV bike and the enduro is fantastic, like you say, they are expensive to keep running but they are a joy to ride. Keep the rubber side down! :)
Hi Joshua, then I wish you lots of fun on your Adventure model. You must have long legs because when I tried on I couldn’t reach the floor with my feet, and I’m 6 ft / 1.83m tall.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis I'm also a 6ft-er, I find it to be adequate, I can just about flat foot when tipped over slightly at the lights, there are various seat options for riders much shorter than us to make the bike manageable! It's a true ADV bike, I absolutely love it, I'd say If you ever get the chance to adjust the seat, give it another go! All the best out there.
Thank you 🙏
Loving the video,I have just put a deposit on a used 2018 1260 multistrada from a Honda dealership. So very interested in your upcoming vids
The 1260 is a very well sorted Multistrada, i think you will have lots of fun when your new bike arrives. I have ridden the new V4S twice now, both times i went away feeling that the 1200 DVT and 1260 have much more useable mid-range pull. Carl
Excellent video!! I´m looking for a good 1260S to purchase and will enjoy the whole serie of episodes, very informative!. Good job ;-)
Hello Javier, and welcome to the channel. The 1260S is a super bike and you will have a lot of fun. Best wishes Carl
In depth and clear info. 🤟👌🙏
Thank you 👍
Great video series. Going to test drive a 2019 1290S on Saturday. Also comparing to a new KTM Adventure S for the same money. Would rather have the Ducati. Always wanted one but i hate reliability gremlins...
Hi JR, well these days they are all very good bikes, you cant really make a bad choice. We have one 1290 adventure in our bike club, and the owners loves it. Yes the Ducati's are nice... but like you say....be careful.
Best wishes Carl
Would really like to see a video on setting up your suspension on this!
Hi Mich, glad you are enjoying the mini series for the Multistrada. Setting up the suspension on the Multi takes time but it’s worth the effort.
Carl
Great information, well done for this profound research! I have only one question regarding the difference of the suspension between the 2013 base and S models. You mentioned that the feel on the S model wasn't exactly what you expected and with the base (non electronic) version the "issue" didn't exist.
Can you please please explain a little bit further the difference between the two in terms of actual parts that consists the suspension? Why the technician suggested to find a base version? Is there a more practical explanation considering, as far as I am concerned, that the only difference is the presence of the electronics?
Thank you
Hello G, I tested both versions and did not like the lack of feel and feedback from the front on the S model ( I tried two different S models) and I much preferred the feeling from the base version. Plus it’s fully manual so I was further able to set the bike up how I like it.
The S was very popular and for most owners it’s brilliant and very capable.
It is just personal preference
Carl
Great series good advice and tips
Hi Steve, thank you. 👍
Hello Carl what is your thought on comparing a 2022 BMW R1250 GS I purchased new last December and trading it in for a 2023 Ducati Multi Strada Rally version with all the bells and whistles. I have the rally version of the GS like you and like it but was considering the blind spot technology and the advanced cruise control on the Ducati. I know BMW just came out with the 1300 GS but will not be discounting anytime soon. I have just over 10,000 miles on the GS and can get a good deal on either the Ducati Pikes Peak or Rally at the end of season here in the Chicago area. I value your opinion and have added numerous accessories to the GS. I don’t do any off riding, I’m 65 and am afraid of breaking something and ending my riding career which I very much enjoy. So this would be for road touring and everyday riding occasionally having my wife on the back. I appreciate any feedback you might have.
Thank you for any consideration Duane
Hello Duane
Both are lovely bikes, but it depends on your riding style and requirements, i would probably go Pikes Peak if I was to choose but I tend to ride a little quicker than most.
And I do love the kit and looks of the PP.
Can you test ride both ?
That would be the best way forward for you.
Also I’m not sure if the ride height on the Rally version is higher than the PP, that might be a consideration for you too.
Let me know which you decide on ….
Lucky you to have two great bikes to choose between
Carl
I swear Carl this bike is driving me mad. Changed the fork seals and oil 5000 miles ago to find them blown again today. And it's losing petrol from the pipe under the tank on the top of the horizontal cylinder connecting to some sort of 3 way metal splitter. I've had it since January and though the bike is amazing to ride, I'm thinking of selling it.
Hi Mike, good morning, sad to hear of your problems. It’s frustrating when problems keep happening when all we want to do is ride and enjoy so I understand your thoughts.
When the Multistrada is running without issues….. it’s hard to beat for a rewarding ride, but like you say…. Regular issues dilute the ownership experience.
Best wishes on Sunday
Carl
Great video, looking forward to more, im in the market for a bike soon, thought long and hard about the multi, was put off though by horrendous reliability issues, screens failing etc, be intrested to hear your thoughts on this, and how you have found them. So far im looking at a super tenere 1200 which have supurb long term reliabilty, and maybe africa twin.
Hi Max, thank you for your comments, and I agree, deciding to become a Ducati owner is not a simple decision mainly because of, as you have highlighted… reliability issues. If you can perform your own repairs and maintenance and you move into Ducati ownership knowing about the potential problems that will occur… it can be an ok / nice experience. But it is still not like owning a well-built reliable Japanese Motorbike. I am currently working on the next two episodes…all about reliability issues. I hope you enjoy them. Carl
Nice double light, that's the name we gave it where im from 😁
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Hi ! Your Multistrada is standard version 2013-2014. Front Suspension on your bike is gold coulor…I’m looking to buy exactly same bike but all standard version that I see from that year got silver forks. Is there some diffrenece betwen them ?
Thank you !!
Hi, mine is the Manual suspension version not the skyhook, normally for 2013/14 the skyhook version is silver and almost all the bikes for sale have skyhook.
You can easily tell by looking for the preload adjustment at the top of the forks.
The skyhook version doesn’t have it.
The Gold manual one does.
Hope that helps you 👍
Regards Carl
Great info. I was in the market for a 700 /800 cc bike (think tenere 700, BMW f750/850gs), but I drove a 1200 2018 multistrada and got hooked. I'm from Portugal and I've seen some 2010 multistradas for sale (40-60k kms) as well as some from 2014 (same mileage, around 2000/3000 euros more expensive). What are some features I should look for when buying? Desmo service is one of the points to be aware of, right?
The easiest ones to work on are the 2010 - 2014 versions, try to find one with a service history ideally Ducati service history. Remember.... at that age, condition is far more important than mileage. So, a dealer serviced 2012 model with 50K would be a better buy than say a 2014 version with only 30K and poor or no service history.
The Desmo service is the big one, she will need belts and valve adjustment... this needs to be completed by someone who knows what they are doing. So, finding a Multi that has this service done is a good start. One last tip... try joining your local Ducati forum and ask for a recommend local independent mechanic. you can save a lot of money if you can find one in your area, and they might know someone who is selling their bike.
Check the oil, make sure its clean and has no signs of water in it, take each bike for good road test… 30 mins minimum to make sure you get the bike HOT and there are no issues. Make sure all the electronics work, horn, heated grips and fuel gauge are common failures. I will be covering these in later videos… Have Fun
Great video I just got mine 2012 Multistrada 1200 touring. Friends are saying it's a headache bike will be more in the shop then on the road but I am in love. Is it a reliable bike????
Hi Vladimir, have a read through all the comments below, and you will find that some owners have experience virtually no issues or problems, while others have. Yes it is a great bike and your going to have a lot of fun. Enjoy your Multi and don't worry about what might never happen. Best wishes Carl
Moved on to a 2015 multistrada but my 2011 had 96,000 miles on it! 😆😆😆🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺
Hi Art, the DVT is a lovely bike did you get the base or the S version...
Carl
@@justthewayitis I got a white "S" model , 21,000 miles and a number of extras ! I'm 69 and have ridden my whole life, never gave cruise control a second thought, but it is nice!!! 😁😁😁🏍🏍🍺🍺 repairing the beak area , wacked a deer a month ago!! 😦😦😦
Good luck with your repairs, and the white S does look beautiful once it is clean and polished...👍
Very good 😊
Thank you 🙏
What crashbars are you using and what tankbag is this?
Hi Kevin, I’m not home at the moment but if you watch the latest video on my channel BMW 2 year review I’ve put the part numbers for the tank bag in that video, crash bars are OEM Ducati
Regards Carl
Great video
Thankyou Live4drive..👍
Hello what are the main problems of the multistrada 2010, and what about getting a multistrada 2010 or a yamaha tracer 900gt 2020 with the same prices?
Hello Hitman and welcome to the channel. This is a great question...👍
The 2010 MT is a great bike and most problems will by now be sorted by previous owners, if you can find a good well looked after one they offer a great deal of performance. But reliability is still a concern. I think if I was completely honest, as of now 2022, I would choose the Yamaha GT because your getting warranty and great value and a super capable bike.
Let us all know which bike you decide to buy.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks a lot for the answer Im still thinking about what is the best choice. I will let you know what I decided at the end!!
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Nice video~ Thanks for your sharing
Your very welcome and thankyou for the compliment. Carl
Looking into a 2011 Multistrada with 26 thousand miles. Base model. Anything to look out for?
Hello, you haven't mentioned condition or service history or wether its private or a dealer. If it's a dealer make sure you have some warranty.
Most things are covered in the multistrada series on the channel, but by now most issues will have been resolved. Make sure EVERYTHING electrical works as it should and go for a least a 25 min ride to make sure the engine and gearbox work correctly when hot. Also the next valve check and adjustment is due at 30k, so calculate that service into your calculations. It's not cheap...
They are great bikes, I wish you lots of fun. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you so much for your reply and for making your Multistrada videos. Been watching the religiously in my lunch breaks. Best wishes and ride on.
Well do let me know if you buy her, and how you get on, they are great bikes and a whole lot of fun. Carl
So is there a problem with electronic suspension system? Is there a problem or you wont feel and confident on them? What was the problem with what they felt?
On the early 2013-2014 bikes the manual suspension was much better (IMO) than Skyhook, because you can feel what is happening between the tyre and the road. Once the manual suspension is setup correctly its very very good.
@@justthewayitis i'm assuming if you set up the electronic suspension to sport mood you would do as well, or it was not the case with you?
For me Manual was much better
I might buy a 2014 model with skyhook, should be worried?
Its a nice bike, just check the front fork seals are not leaking.... take it for a test ride of 30 mins first, then check the forks to see if they leak any oil.
After owning many many Yamaha’s Suzuki’s and Kawasaki’s, I just got myself a 2016 multistrada 1200 enduro with 30.000km and I am mostly wondering how owning a Ducati is such a different experience from owning a Honda… (although I never owned a Honda)
The 1200 Enduro is actually a great bike, it should serve you very nicely if you keep it well maintained.
Hello Tim, i am currently editing Part 4 which is going to cover gearbox issues, and i would like to use your great question in the next video, is this ok for you ?
Of course! I am curious for the content!
Thank-you
Hi Carl I’ve recently purchased a 2014 multi and stumbled across your channel. Brilliant! But I must say makes me slightly concerned regarding issues. I have subscribed because you are very good at explaining things so will deffo be taking your advice should I encounter issues. You can see my bike over on my channel its the 2014 with the skyhook suspension. Thankyou 👍
Hello, although you are subscribed I cant see your channel and look at your Multi. it might be that you have ticked the ' remain anonymous' option which is why I can't see you or your channel. But... dont worry... you are going to have a lot of fun on your 2014 multi. I smile every time I leave the house...yes you might have an issue or two but overall it's a great bike. I have a couple of episodes coming up over the next few weeks that you and your 2014 might like. Gearing change and exhaust value remove... which make a HUGE difference. Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks buddy thats strange about the channel. Its “CRAZYLEGS ON A BIKE” i will deffo keep watching your videos as they are very informative 👍👍
Ah... now i see it, Silver 1200 S GT... very nice indeed, and quite rare, and with the full luggage set. ...Great looking bike with all the extras as standard.
Honda makes a lot of awesome toasters. Appliance machines. Super reliable, no soul.
In an ideal world, beauty, soul and reliability would be lovely 😊
👌👌👌☺️☺️
Thank you John 👍
You made a mistake in your testing of the Sky hook suspension system. The mistake you made is that the system learns how you ride and adjusts over a period of time. You most likely didnt ride far enough to allow it to “learn” your riding to settle in on its settings. They do feel a little off when you first ride one until it adjusts to your methods of riding.
I do understand your comment, but for me at least it's more about the feeling of connection between the tyre and road which I found lacking with the skyhook system, other owners also feel the same. I do think that the newer versions are much better and this is something that is constantly improving. Carl
I wish I had gotten the base model instead of the S...
Hi Phil, why would you prefer the base version?
@@justthewayitis I have realized the electronic complications way more than necessary and not really as comfortable as claimed. A well tuned and setup standard suspension is just as comfortable. Not that fond of the ride modes either, Enduro is just stiff and the bike doesn't handle well for me on gravel roads, I've tried, and urban is just mushy. Preload is the most useful of the shock settings in the DSS. And I don't mess with them very much once they are set. It's the luddite part of me that wants less complication. I didn't come to that conclusion until after riding it for a couple years.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts for me and the other subscribers 👍
Funny. I am German, living in the UK and riding a MTS 1200:-)
Lol... Die Welt ist klein. Viele Grüße aus deiner Heimat an meine :-) Carl
@@justthewayitis Danke. Gruss aus den schönen Cotswolds. Übrigens: Ich musste gerade an meiner 2011er, standart MTS (15.000 mls on it) mit Marzocchi Gabel, die Simmeringe austauschen. Die rechte Seite war undicht. Kommt also auch vor. Ich habe einen Kit von All Ball Racing(56-145) für 22 quid gekauft, der super funktioniert.
I would think that with new fork seals and fresh oil the front forks feel much better. I am glad your enjoying the bike. I was in Great Malvern before I left the uk. Not far from you. Lovely area and great roads. Carl
@@justthewayitis I am in Stroud. Not far indeed. Today I've been in Tewkesbury with the Duc. Still a bit cold:-)
Ducati is really heading down a terrible path. Ducati IS L-twin and when they part with that engine it is just enough for me. I know that Iwill never buy a new Ducati again. Thankfully I still have a low milage Multistrada 1200s.
Hello and welcome, I think your not the only owner to think this. As much as I enjoyed my test of the V4S I was disappointed with a couple of things and the engine was the main one. It does not sound anything like the lovely L twin and for me was missing that low down grunt I have come to love. I actually did think... what would it have been like with the original L twin engine?.
But many new owners seem very happy with the new version. Best wishes Carl
Is this a motorcycle review or a you review zzzzz
Not my best work as it was my first ever video that I made to help other owners. I do get much better as the series progresses. We all have to start somewhere. Kind regards Carl
I thought you were reviewing the bike. Not giving a history lesson on the bikes of your last... 🤨
Hi Nite Owl, the complete series is the review of the 2013 multistrada. Part 1, which you commented on, was my very first episode. Im not a professional and I make these episodes to help and support other multistrada owners, and let's not forget the whole series is free....I do the best I can. Carl
Very good 😊
Thanks 😊