keep it up! I'll tune in for your next one. BTW, I just added a 2013 PP to my garage. Full Termi and map and it's one angry lady :) Def something special about this twin. @@idratherberiding3456
Thank for your comment. In essence the 2014 gran touring and my 2013 Pikes Peak are the same motorcycle. Great motorcycles, especially if there is a dealer nearby. 🙂
@@maikoui I'm biased toward the Pikes Peak versions. But I think the best bike should be the one that best suits the kind of riding you are planning for it.
Owning the 2011 S version myself, I fully underwrite the conclusions in the video. It’s a fun bike to go anywhere. After all these years, it can still compete with newer kids on the block. Loads of character, brutal engine and 3 motorcycles in 1; what’s not to like? Well yeah, the electronic gremlins and expensive maintenance services. For me it’s all worth it though!
Great vid, enjoyed listening to you experience. I have a MTS 1260 S, love it now has 40k on the clock and has had 2 Desmo services. Other maintenance parts I’ve had a fuel sensor and a Lamba sensor fail. Still rides like new and looks great. But is getting old will probably change next year to a MTS v4s
Thanks, well, I’m a total newb in making videos, despite a five+ year channel. The story line needs to be improved, but they will always need to be improved. LOL. I appreciate the comment.
Brilliant video and very interesting. I have the exact same bike but got it in 2014. I decided to get the full bore service at 23,000 km rather than change the bike just because I still love the raw beauty of it. Hope you do the same !! The new version is truly amazing but I may wait some time before trying it. I would not want to regret trading in the 2014 pikes peak, love the exhaust, the tyre size etc etc. Best of luck for the future !
Great video. I bought my 2013 multistrada 5 years ago, it is my favourite bike of all time. I bought a 1260 multistrada a year ago, very nice bike, but my 1200 is different, it's my bike. I prefer the 1200 pretty much because of the engine. The 1260 engine is fantastic, but the overall character of the 1200 works for me. Much more torque, and the way the engine responds is just the way I want it to. By the way I bought the 1260 thinking that my 1200 was getting old, perhaps I should just have a newer bike as an option. Neat idea, but in the end I'm staying with the 1200. A couple of things. My bike has been great, very few problems. I am also due for the desmo service, I will just bite the bullet - I can't change to another bike. I'll just accept the cost. (60,000 km now) About low rpm engine performance. I bought a tuneboy ECU programmer 4 years ago, and spend all 4 years developing my own engine map. The bike is now simply amazing. It has improved steadily over especially the last 18 months as I really got to understand the engine map, but the last 6 months I have made a real breakthrough. It is now better than anything I could have imagined 4 years ago. Every time I ride the bike it is such an amazing thrill, I often wonder if Ducati know what a miracle the engine is - their default engine map certainly doesn't exhibit any of what the engine is capable of. A comment. You say your multistrada rides like when it was new. I had to smile. Mine was nice when I bought it, I liked it, but if I were to give that bike perhaps 6/10, I would give it 7.5/10 now with the current engine map. I absolutely love my 1200. It's great to see someone else with a similar viewpoint on the bike. A very last thought. This is probably more than you would want to attempt, but just in case - if you want to try my engine map I would be happy to provide it to you, no charge.
Thank you so much for your comment. It greatly improves the video, when people seriously interested in this bike check the comments for extra information (I do that), your comment will be a great source of information. I agree with you, the character of the motor is what counts. And this motorcycle has plenty. It sounds great. It is smooth. But it also feels raw! Like in it is aggressive, this motorcycle pushes me to ride faster. It is engaging! About the low RPM thing, actually my bike does it very well, from the start, it was always perfect. Maybe I got lucky? But thank you so much for your offer. My only criticism is for the motorcycle reviewers, the ones who want to evaluate a motorcycle by how well it rides at 25-30mph in 6th gear. I just don't get it why is that so important... LOL. On mine, I drop it down to third gear when getting into traffic or going through villages, and it is smooth on those speeds! And then I can enjoy accelerating back to higher speeds, going through the gears. The fun factor is THERE. LOL. Thanks again!!!
I had a 2013 1200S that I love, put 10k miles on it the 1st year I owned it, sold it to a buddy and regretted it. Just now I found a 2016 1200S DVT I'm gonna play with.
I have a 2014 GT model and it does everything my RT did, except for cruise control. It even carries the full camping load better than the RT did since the side cases are further forward and the trunk is further forward. Much more fun in the twisty mountains than the 1200RT.
I have a 22' V4S that I absolutely love, with 11K miles, and I've been wondering how long and how far it will go. I hope I have a similar experience. And agreed, I wouldn't have bought a Ducati if I didn't have a dealership close by. Cheers!
Great video, precise ranting too. I owned a 2013 Multistrada base model, she has clocked 125k km and still going strong. By the way, nice handlebar bag you have, mind sharing where you bought it? Thinking of getting Desert X, the looks grows in me....
Thank you so much! About the handlebar bag, it is a Case Logic bag for camcorders. I'm not sure they are still sold. Last time I searched the internet I could not find them. They are perfect for a small camera or cell phone or other small items.
Great video, I concider to sell my Hypermotard 1100s and go for a Multistrada 1200 Pikes peak as I can ride longer distances at more comfort. Good informative video! Thanks
Good video. I have 2010 1200s multistrada. Just 1200 pounds to have the desmo service. As you say its difficult to justify the expenditure. But i still enjoy the bike. I have test rode the ktm 1290 sas which i think will be my next bike. Although i am keeping the Ducati for the future. Let us know what decide. The v4 pikes peak is a special bike.
The lack of access to manuals, codes and resetting the service light are big deterrents for me. Well, that and having owned an old Ducati in the past! I'm willing to take another chance, and I'm handy, but Ducati really doesn't want owners to touch those bikes and it's hard for me to accept. It better not break down ever, but how likely is that. BTW, Desmo valve service isn't that much more difficult than on conventional motors or Japanese bikes.
Someone posted here that we can buy a code reader for the Ducati, it's in the $300 level. So, not too bad. Yes, I keep hearing the desmo valve service is not too bad. I'll think about it.
The forest with the large trees, Sequoya trees, is in northern California, close to the coast. Most of the other locations are in Oregon, including the coast shots. Yes, I'm lucky. But I also chose to live in Oregon. :-)
I was looking for a 1260 pikes peak model but even on the 2nd hand market they ask around 18 to 20.000,- euro's for one with not too much milage. For that money I bought a 2023 model KTM Adventure S, might not be as pretty but has more tech and better (light) offroad capabilities. Maybe I will upgrade to the V4 model when the prices come down a little.
It's incredible how much they are asking for a used 1260 Pikes Peak. I think you made the right choice going with the KTM, especially if you want to ride off road.
I need your help! I have a rsv4 rf track bike. And im looking for a multistrada. I came down to 4 options. 1) 1200s 2012 model with 33.000km for 10k€, 2) 1200s pikes peak 2016 for 17k€ with 20.000km, 3) 1260s 2020 for 14k€ with 20.000km and 4) v4 rally version 2000km for 20k€
That's a hard decision. If you like HP, I would recommend the V4 rally. Otherwise, I would go with the 2020 1260. But if I wanted to get the original, raw feel, the 2012 would do it. But ultimately, all four are great options. But prices seem to be too high for all. There must be some room for negotiation there.
But then you are being too rational. Just kidding. The main question is, if I'm going to sell the bike in the next couple of years, is it worth to do the service? Will I recover the cost of the service on the selling price?
Not true regarding access to the fault codes and service resets. Many companies including Obdstar can get access to the system. I ride an XDiavel 2016 which has I have access to the bikes ecu and the Multistrada is even easier
Thank for letting me know. I will search about Obdstar. Do you have the name of the other many companies that provide this service? It will be helpful to all Ducati owners to know. Thanks again!
I don't comment often, but that was a great video. Concise, interesting, and informative. Good editing too!
Thank you! I'm learning, so any positive comment go a long way.
keep it up! I'll tune in for your next one. BTW, I just added a 2013 PP to my garage. Full Termi and map and it's one angry lady :) Def something special about this twin. @@idratherberiding3456
A great, comprehensive review of a 2013 Multistrada and general ownership experience!
Thank you!
Awesome video, especially for someone in the market. Thanks!!
Great video 🙏🏾. I enjoyed that story and journey fully!
Thank you, your comment is much appreciated!
Great review! Your rants are spot-on.
Thank you so much for your comment!!!
I love my 2011!!! It can do absolutely everything I need and want it to!
The first three years, 2010, 11 and 12 are, to me, the real ones, the original ones.
Thank you for the shift gears commentary!
My pleasure.
Great video. I have a 15 MS Enduro and love it. Such a great grand touring bike with such great character.
Nice bike! And thank you!!!
Great video and very informative. I found this because I’m researching the Ducati multi Strada 2014 grand touring. looks like a killer bike
Thank for your comment. In essence the 2014 gran touring and my 2013 Pikes Peak are the same motorcycle. Great motorcycles, especially if there is a dealer nearby. 🙂
Well done for the video, I have a multi v2s, looking at getting 1260 pikes peak too, the best bike ever!
I agree, it's the best bike ever! And thank you!!!
@idratherberiding3456 better than the 1260s gt? I am between the two
@@maikoui I'm biased toward the Pikes Peak versions. But I think the best bike should be the one that best suits the kind of riding you are planning for it.
Fabulous video, well presented and great content. I love my 2016 DVT model, but sort of thinking of changing as well.
Thank you!
Owning the 2011 S version myself, I fully underwrite the conclusions in the video. It’s a fun bike to go anywhere. After all these years, it can still compete with newer kids on the block. Loads of character, brutal engine and 3 motorcycles in 1; what’s not to like? Well yeah, the electronic gremlins and expensive maintenance services. For me it’s all worth it though!
Considering the price of a new one, which may not perform much better, the first series are well worth the maintenance cost.
Great vid, enjoyed listening to you experience. I have a MTS 1260 S, love it now has 40k on the clock and has had 2 Desmo services. Other maintenance parts I’ve had a fuel sensor and a Lamba sensor fail. Still rides like new and looks great. But is getting old will probably change next year to a MTS v4s
Thank you for commenting, I appreciate it. I hope you get the V4S, I'd love to one day have the V4 Pikes Peak.
Very nice bike and a nice review on it!
Thank you!
Great video !
Thank you!
Great video mate! Do the desmo service and keep it for joy rides 👌🏻
That's what I have in mind for now. :-)
Great video, thank you.
Thanks!
What an interesting and entertaining video. You should have more subscribers 👍
Thanks, well, I’m a total newb in making videos, despite a five+ year channel. The story line needs to be improved, but they will always need to be improved. LOL. I appreciate the comment.
Brilliant video and very interesting. I have the exact same bike but got it in 2014. I decided to get the full bore service at 23,000 km rather than change the bike just because I still love the raw beauty of it. Hope you do the same !! The new version is truly amazing but I may wait some time before trying it. I would not want to regret trading in the 2014 pikes peak, love the exhaust, the tyre size etc etc. Best of luck for the future !
Thank you so much for your comment. As of today, I'm very inclined to do the same with my bike.
Great video.
I bought my 2013 multistrada 5 years ago, it is my favourite bike of all time.
I bought a 1260 multistrada a year ago, very nice bike, but my 1200 is different, it's my bike. I prefer the 1200 pretty much because of the engine. The 1260 engine is fantastic, but the overall character of the 1200 works for me. Much more torque, and the way the engine responds is just the way I want it to. By the way I bought the 1260 thinking that my 1200 was getting old, perhaps I should just have a newer bike as an option. Neat idea, but in the end I'm staying with the 1200.
A couple of things.
My bike has been great, very few problems.
I am also due for the desmo service, I will just bite the bullet - I can't change to another bike. I'll just accept the cost. (60,000 km now)
About low rpm engine performance.
I bought a tuneboy ECU programmer 4 years ago, and spend all 4 years developing my own engine map. The bike is now simply amazing. It has improved steadily over especially the last 18 months as I really got to understand the engine map, but the last 6 months I have made a real breakthrough. It is now better than anything I could have imagined 4 years ago. Every time I ride the bike it is such an amazing thrill, I often wonder if Ducati know what a miracle the engine is - their default engine map certainly doesn't exhibit any of what the engine is capable of.
A comment. You say your multistrada rides like when it was new. I had to smile. Mine was nice when I bought it, I liked it, but if I were to give that bike perhaps 6/10, I would give it 7.5/10 now with the current engine map.
I absolutely love my 1200. It's great to see someone else with a similar viewpoint on the bike.
A very last thought. This is probably more than you would want to attempt, but just in case - if you want to try my engine map I would be happy to provide it to you, no charge.
Thank you so much for your comment. It greatly improves the video, when people seriously interested in this bike check the comments for extra information (I do that), your comment will be a great source of information.
I agree with you, the character of the motor is what counts. And this motorcycle has plenty. It sounds great. It is smooth. But it also feels raw! Like in it is aggressive, this motorcycle pushes me to ride faster. It is engaging!
About the low RPM thing, actually my bike does it very well, from the start, it was always perfect. Maybe I got lucky? But thank you so much for your offer.
My only criticism is for the motorcycle reviewers, the ones who want to evaluate a motorcycle by how well it rides at 25-30mph in 6th gear. I just don't get it why is that so important... LOL. On mine, I drop it down to third gear when getting into traffic or going through villages, and it is smooth on those speeds! And then I can enjoy accelerating back to higher speeds, going through the gears. The fun factor is THERE. LOL.
Thanks again!!!
Enjoyed the vid, mate
30 on 6th !!😅😅
Service it.and keep it.😁
She's been faithful for the last 10years.. besides, the RS..no trellis frame
That's the plan, keep it. And yeah, what about these guys complaining about slow speeds in 6th gear... thank you! :-)
I had a 2013 1200S that I love, put 10k miles on it the 1st year I owned it, sold it to a buddy and regretted it. Just now I found a 2016 1200S DVT I'm gonna play with.
I liked the DVT motors, love how it accelerates and sounds after 5K RPM!
I have a 2014 GT model and it does everything my RT did, except for cruise control. It even carries the full camping load better than the RT did since the side cases are further forward and the trunk is further forward. Much more fun in the twisty mountains than the 1200RT.
This is a super fun machine. Thank you for your comment!
I have a 22' V4S that I absolutely love, with 11K miles, and I've been wondering how long and how far it will go. I hope I have a similar experience. And agreed, I wouldn't have bought a Ducati if I didn't have a dealership close by. Cheers!
I fear ever taking a V4S for a test ride... LOL. I appreciate the comment.
Great video, precise ranting too. I owned a 2013 Multistrada base model, she has clocked 125k km and still going strong. By the way, nice handlebar bag you have, mind sharing where you bought it?
Thinking of getting Desert X, the looks grows in me....
Thank you so much! About the handlebar bag, it is a Case Logic bag for camcorders. I'm not sure they are still sold. Last time I searched the internet I could not find them. They are perfect for a small camera or cell phone or other small items.
Great video, I concider to sell my Hypermotard 1100s and go for a Multistrada 1200 Pikes peak as I can ride longer distances at more comfort. Good informative video! Thanks
Thanks!
Good video.
I have 2010 1200s multistrada.
Just 1200 pounds to have the desmo service. As you say its difficult to justify the expenditure. But i still enjoy the bike.
I have test rode the ktm 1290 sas which i think will be my next bike. Although i am keeping the Ducati for the future. Let us know what decide. The v4 pikes peak is a special bike.
You have the real OG! The 2010 was the one that really started the Multistrada line as we know today.
I have the 2010 1200s 60k on it only put a pipe on it and a heavier rear spring not one problem yet.
Great to know your 2010 is trouble free with 60K on it, I love the 2010's, the first year.
The lack of access to manuals, codes and resetting the service light are big deterrents for me. Well, that and having owned an old Ducati in the past! I'm willing to take another chance, and I'm handy, but Ducati really doesn't want owners to touch those bikes and it's hard for me to accept. It better not break down ever, but how likely is that. BTW, Desmo valve service isn't that much more difficult than on conventional motors or Japanese bikes.
Someone posted here that we can buy a code reader for the Ducati, it's in the $300 level. So, not too bad. Yes, I keep hearing the desmo valve service is not too bad. I'll think about it.
Still riding my 2011 1200s just hit 50,000 km 😁
That is inspiring and encouraging!
Where are you traveling? Its amazing. Please reply. That forest is a dream
The forest with the large trees, Sequoya trees, is in northern California, close to the coast. Most of the other locations are in Oregon, including the coast shots. Yes, I'm lucky. But I also chose to live in Oregon. :-)
I was looking for a 1260 pikes peak model but even on the 2nd hand market they ask around 18 to 20.000,- euro's for one with not too much milage. For that money I bought a 2023 model KTM Adventure S, might not be as pretty but has more tech and better (light) offroad capabilities. Maybe I will upgrade to the V4 model when the prices come down a little.
It's incredible how much they are asking for a used 1260 Pikes Peak. I think you made the right choice going with the KTM, especially if you want to ride off road.
Excuse me but i'm new to your channel, in which country are you riding your bike?
I'm in the United States, the Pacific Northwest of the United States.
PSA: No laws were fractured in the making of this video, blurring was a brief issue with the camera 😁
Of course. If I remember correctly, a bug got onto the lens at that right moment.
I need your help! I have a rsv4 rf track bike. And im looking for a multistrada. I came down to 4 options. 1) 1200s 2012 model with 33.000km for 10k€, 2) 1200s pikes peak 2016 for 17k€ with 20.000km, 3) 1260s 2020 for 14k€ with 20.000km and 4) v4 rally version 2000km for 20k€
What is the best option?
That's a hard decision. If you like HP, I would recommend the V4 rally. Otherwise, I would go with the 2020 1260. But if I wanted to get the original, raw feel, the 2012 would do it. But ultimately, all four are great options. But prices seem to be too high for all. There must be some room for negotiation there.
How much are the desmo costs? I can hardly imagine selling a bike for desmo service and buy a "new" bike again.
But then you are being too rational. Just kidding. The main question is, if I'm going to sell the bike in the next couple of years, is it worth to do the service? Will I recover the cost of the service on the selling price?
@@idratherberiding3456 you could go for the 1260 depending on your wallet. Than I would skip desmo
Not true regarding access to the fault codes and service resets. Many companies including Obdstar can get access to the system. I ride an XDiavel 2016 which has I have access to the bikes ecu and the Multistrada is even easier
Thank for letting me know. I will search about Obdstar. Do you have the name of the other many companies that provide this service? It will be helpful to all Ducati owners to know. Thanks again!
Do the valves. Its not that difficult. Just slow.
I'm thinking about it. :-)