CHEAP, JUNKYARD BOOST TEST-K SERIES HONDA VS LS (2.4L vs 4.8L)
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- HP VS TORQUE, DISPLACEMENT VS RPM, LS VS HONDA, WHICH ONE WINS? WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THE LOW-SPEED TORQUE OFFERED BY THE EXTRA DISPLACEMENT OF AN LS V8 OR THE EFFICIENCY AND RPM POTENTIAL OF THE K-SERIES HONDA? WHAT IF THEY MADE THE SAME POWER? HOW MUCH BOOST DOES EACH TAKE? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN RPM? WHAT ABOUT GEARING? IT'S ALL HERE AS WE COMPARE THE NA AND TURBO 4.8L LR4 TO THE NA AND TURBO 2.4L K24A2.
I love that you’re a gear head, not a brand x loyalist. The k series is a good little motor.
Can't wait for the K24 big bang video. I have a couple K series engines and currently building an all out aluminum rod short stroke 2.1L K24 capable of a reliable 10k rpm.
K swap the world!
Holy moly
I've been revving to 10,400 rpm since September 2019 when I finished my mr2 .. if you want a reliable kseries with the kinda rpm you said you wanna go k20 not k24 the extra torque in the k24 will hurt you sooner and they aren't known to last as long at anywhere above 9500 I went through 2 k24a2 in 1 month now on my 2nd year with k20 with the block and heads being the only difference .. same setup everywhere else, just something to think about if your gonna spend the money might as well learn from mine and other guys misfortunes
@@freedomfox8183 I am well aware, the 99mm stroke on a stock K24 is too much for high rpm. So I'm doing a K24 block with a K20 crank so it will be same stroke as a K20, just slightly larger bore and the rods are gonna be a little over 19mm longer than in a K20 as the K24 block is taller. I haven't ordered the custom rods or pistons yet because if I can find a reasonably priced F20 crank which is even shorter stroke, ill go that route.
@@joelg6740 Did you overbalance the crank? What % ?
@@lucysmith4242 Haven't got to that point yet. Need the pistons, pins and rods on hand but I still ain't 100% set on a K20 crank as even at 10k rpm the piston speed is higher than I'd like. If I can find a used F20 crank I want to go that route and then have it lightened and balanced. I could always have a custom crank made with like an 80mm stroke which with an 89mm bore will make it a 2L but the price is rediculous. Edit: Well I just requested quotes from a bunch of different manufactures for a super light billet 80mm stroke crank. Even at 11000rpm the piston speed is reasonable at 5774ft/m and rod to stroke ratio is 2.08 💪 Now if only the valve train will be able to keep up. Should be a pretty wicked little engine NA on methanol with 16:1 comp, will hopefully rev like a superbike with that crank paired to the lightweight aluminum rods and super light weight forged pistons.
Not enough information to answer the question. What's it going in? That makes all the difference in the world. A Miata? Honda all the way, keep 90% of the handling & triple the power. What's not to like about that. Just for fun I'd be curious to see the Honda in a stripped-out notchback Fox, sort of a poor-man's SVO. Anything over about 3K pounds or any max-effort straight line stuff, LS all the way. Can't beat torque.
Great comparison & shows how doubling boost & halving displacement results in almost equal output. Still waiting for a big-bang Triton V10.... 💥
I have a k24a2 civic an a 6.0 s10 my civic is all stock runs 11s all day.. let me say this u take a chevy chevette with 6.0 500hp weight is 2000pds... then u take a k24a2 civic 500hp weights the same 2000pds the civic will still bet it.. Richard is doing these videos to let ppl how the k24a2 is king an will bet v8 my 6.0 s10 runs 12s all stock... I swap civic are faster then any chevy,mustang,or dodge
Obviously the LS produces a much more usable power band and using junkyard heads, intake and getting it local instead of imported means it's a much cheaper combo. It's also easy to get a big China turbo and increase the power a lot only spending on the fuel system to support it.
The K motor is impressive but it does need much different gearing because the party is only starting around 4,500 rpm. It would not work well in a heavy vehicle. In a very light vehicle that already has appropriate gearing, it could be the better choice for packaging and preserving vehicle handling.
One problem. There isn’t an LS in a junkyard within 50 miles of me and I live in a city of 500,000.
@@BustedWalletGarage its still easier and cheaper to buy a junkyard 4.8 shipped a few hundred miles than a K24 shipped from Japan.
@@BustedWalletGarage You need to move
*** The 4.8 because if your purpose is to drive on street the LS would be mild and dependable idle in traffic etc... And at 7 lbs there is SO Much More still in her Lol and still have drivability compared to small 4 cyl with Big Cam and injectors but LOVE ALL MOTORS cause 2.4 with 580 hp certainly bad ass
Vtec exists to get the best of drivability and performance. When its on the small lobe, that thing will idle like a sewing machine and get great economy to boot. This was a pretty mild k series.
@@madmod Yes if your 4 cyl has vtec or if your cam swap didn't disable the vtec Yes i agree but being a previous and current owner of 500+ hp 4 cyl turbo motors with so called streetable cams like my Brian Crower 272 in a 4g63 and 1,450 cc injectors and then needing a clutch to handle all that power made for a not so friendly street driver but fast Yes extremely
@@miker1681 often aftermarket cams require limited phasing of the cams due to ptv clearance which can often hurt low speed torque/off idle drivability. The benefit to these dohc cars is the ability to set centerline angles up however you want from a choppy idle boosting the midrange, or smoothing it out and helping it carry over up top. 270° advertised duration cams are far from what id call small but im used to cams spec'd for twice the displacement. A 220 at .050 cam support turning 7k rpms on my v8 and thats only around 265 advertised.
I have a k24a2 swap civic hatchback an I have a 6.0 lq4 s10 civic runs low 11s all day my s10 runs 12s all day... only way to say this is u take a Chevy chevette with 500hp with 2000pds car then take a k swap civic 500hp 2000pds car the k swap civic will still win.... Richard is trying to show u v8 guys that k swap are not slow...
@@madmod Exactly this. With VTEC you can have a mild cam that will scream later on. Kind of having your cake and eating it too.
I would like to see you try compressed air supercharger system it seems really 😎
The impression I'm getting is: The LS needs K24 heads. 😛
lol exactly. There's actually an engineer who is making a V8 with the k20/k24 heads and v-tec, best of both worlds.
Basically a coyote 5.0 then...
I want to see an ls with one of them “freevalve” setups. The one with valve actuators. No cam, lifter, rockers etc...
@@tuloko16 Huge huge complaint of free-valve setups and why companies steered away from it/failed to deliver was because they couldn't keep the actuators cool, they build LOTS of heat. Good luck redesigning the oiling system for that reason, because without a cam/lifters/pushrods, NO oil gets up to the top end to cool the actuators, and no cam slug means no oil gets to the bottom end either because they aren't a priority-main design block.
@@rustysausage69 thread AN fittings into the lifter holes and press fit aluminum plugs onto the cam holes without bearings, aftermarket blocks can be had with mains priority oil first
That's it! I'm k swapping my Silverado!!
Lol!! Someone is K-swapping a 4th gen Camaro, check it out on engineswapdepot, madlad.
Gm done 4cyl swapped the Silverado for ya!!
@@HioSSilver1999 That 2.7 is quite the engine, actually
I'd love to see that
Try an Atlas 2800.
Goes to show that engine displacement is a preference. And it's all about how much volume of air/fuel you ignite at a given rpm! But gearing and vehicle weight play a major role.
My car never sees below 4000 RPMs after I launch. With that k-series making more torque at every point past about 7,000 rpms, with the right gearing, the k could likely average more power since it could hang up in the revs no problem
It might make more torque past 7000rpm but comparing both engines power band it makes WAY less torque by a long shot. If you are looking at average power the 4.8 is the best option here. look how flat that HP curve is. Give the 4.8 another .5lb of boost so that both engines are making 580hp and the 4.8 would carry that 580hp for like 700-800rpm while the 2.4 just peaks there
@@DBLDREW Hypothetically adding boost to the 4.8 to make it exceed the power of the 2.4 defeats the point of the test. In reality, all that torque is moot because that combo wont see below 4500 rpms after it launches just as the k wont see much anything below 6k. Now, averaging the power curves from the usable powerband it would actually see at wot, roughly from 5k-7krpms for the ls, and from 6-8k for the k, they are almost identical. This means that the torque advantage down low for the ls would add little advantage in a race as compared to a combo that maintains its torque production all the way to redline. Anytime you sustain torque production to a higher rpms, you will make more power. Also, i dont think you'd quite have the boost response off idle in a car as Richard is able to achieve in testing. The engine gets hung wide open at the start point and artificial load is added to spool the turbo. Just food for thought. Imho, both are fantastic choices for a performance engine. Both have tons of potential and advantages in their own rights.
@@madmod you dont need to add boost up on the 4.8, it already has way more average power the way it was tested. was just saying to make a more accurate comparison it would help to make them both 580hp. Peak power is great for bragging but average power is how you go fast. Your going to run each engine up to 6800rpm for the 4.8 and 8000rpm for the 2.4 and then shift gears. Now depending on gear ratios your going to drop 1500 rpm or so. the 4.8L at 5300 rpm is at 540hp 540ftlb the 2.4L at 6500rpm is only at 490hp, 400ftlb, thats a 50hp drop in hp and 140ftlb of torque drop. the 4.8 makes more power everywhere except for about a 300rpm range at the peak. The 4.8 would be a much much faster engine even though its down aprx 10hp at the peak. Add a small amount of boost and its a even more of a difference.
@@DBLDREW one would typically run that 4.8 on out to 7200-7500 for a shift point....which would probably want another intake of which it would make even more power.
Just a little something to make the honda guy cry some more....lol
@@HioSSilver1999 well if you wanna go that way you change the k series cam build it to rev to 10k and 450 to 500 na hp
I’ve had both, both best engines ever made
For the vs Honda intro part I was expecting the Richard Holdener patented "Waaaaaoooohhnn"
I like the idea of running the 4.8 at lower boost and lower rpm. It just seems like a more reliable and drivable combination. I’m not sure what the weight difference is between the two. Obviously the 2.4 would be the better choice if space is limited.
Agreed.
you can usually use a smaller car too. Ariel Atom can use a k24, the lightest small block car I can think of is a cobra.
@@kellyheath8547 Sunbeam Tigers are light, too. A K24 in an Ariel is a match made in heaven.
Considering an ecotec come in 1.6-2.4.
It's like taking a truck with 2.7 LT with turbo vs a 4.8 LS or 5.3 LS/LT. Once the turbo shells, it lacks power to move the truck.
4.8 was built for reliability in mind with tons of torque without needing complex vvt which fails.
It all comes down to packaging. If you have space for a V8, why go K24? I love Hondas, and the K is a strong engine, but sometimes, you have to be pragmatic about your choices. I am honestly envious of the potential of big displacement V8s, even NA, and with mild mods. In the end, grab what you need and do what you love, but respect the others.
Those k series love to breath. When they do it's a beast.
I just did rear wheel torque by adjusting gears both almost the same, but Honda is a lot lighter
and takes a lot less space.
instead of calculating rear wheel torque, you can just use hp. HP is torque and RPM, allows easy comparisons between different gas engines and alternative sources (turbines, electric motors). You can also talk kilowatts (kW) many power sources talk in kW and the hp to kW conversion is simple.
@@twistedarrow3574 that is either a heavy civic or a light s10.
I would use the k series’s because it can make the same power with turbo but it is a much lighter package and with gearing can deliver it just as well and you can place the k series behind the front wheels for better weight balance
I love Honda & Chevy both equally. I love the K-series, B-series, J-series, & LS motors. That being said I would take a hopped up all motor LS for a clean street machine.
I would love to see some old school modding of the old 3 and 4 bangers like the little suzuki 1.0L and the wildly popular 2.3L ford I think those would be some great turbo builds
100hp on the turbo with better mpg sounds familiar
This question needs to be answered with another question. What are you building the car for? Is it road race? Drag? Maybe a drift car? It's less about overall power and torque with certain types of racing. Overall weight and balance, as well as where the torque lands on the curve, will be major factors with road racing where it may be less important in drag racing where everything is kinda looking for peak performance in short duration.
i like lower displacement because it's literally the bane of everyone else.
You need to hit up erick from ericks racing engines in Baldwin park. He makes bolt on k24s hit 230+ to the hubs it'd be awesome for him to help you tune on the engine dyno
This guy wrote the book on it, dont think he needs help
@@DarkLinkAD b series tuning to k is completely different. Erick was of the first few to go 9s and 8s in late 90s early 00s
@@BOOSTJUNKY Sure it is..
Ill throw you a bone, this guy (Richard Holdener) litterly built the worlds fastest Civic.
He holds the record of 207.5mph
@@DarkLinkAD yes I know, and with a b16
The Del Sol gets the K24 and the camaro gets the 4.8! Both engines are awesome but it all comes down to what you want to put them in. Though a 4.8 turbo LS in a del slow would be fairly wild 😂
"Fairly wild".... come now brandon, that del sol would be like trying to pet the angry neighbor pit bull without getting maimed lol...😂
@@JaredHIll13 yeah pretty much! 😂
my 2 favorite engine combos in one video. YES
Depends on the vehicle and what I'm doing. I've started leaning towards smaller engines with boost for a daily.
Nice comparison. If the room is available, 4.8 turbo. If not, the turbo Honda is a great choice. Thanks for all the great videos. Regards.
I'd love to be listening to that Honda rev out to that 8500 redline and shifting just to ride it another 3000 revs.
I not really like Honda car design, but the engines Honda made were awesome. Can operate efficiently at high and low engine speed. Thanks to vtec
I wonder which one uses fuel faster at that peak power. that would be really interesting to know. I know little engines revving really fast can eat more than people realize.
He should be able to pull up the fuel flows from the dyno I think that would be really close.
You have to burn a similar amount of fuel to get similar power, the whole point of the smaller Honda is you can keep revs low when you don't need to go fast and burn WAY less then 4.8 at 3k rpm
@@chrislawson3418 bsfc
It would be interesting to know how much fuel each of them used in the final dyno runs, since they were making the same power.
With the K24 you have to be a little careful having the torque come on at a low rpm. High torque at low rpm hurts the rods and bearings since they’re designed to be a higher rpm engine.
Do a miata 1.8 motor and then boost it the cheap eBay turbo way. Then do it with the filing miata turbo way. Id love to see those numbers.
It depends on the application. Both have their time/place.
Fun comparison, thanks
Boost is a wonderful thing
Technically more then 2x as the k24 really is a k23.5 :) or perhaps the 4.8 is a 4.75..? The answer however is the Turbo K24 in a smaller, lighter chassis... like a 1st gen Miata or, perhaps, a MR2. Those would fly!
I’d like a smaller turbo on an I6 so it spools just off of idle. Low boost 8-10# should give a massive torque boost in the normal driving range. I rarely shift mine >3000-3500 rpm. Usually 2500.
Can you test more I6 and V6 engines?
I like the way you think.
Sounds like a 335i. Problem with that is traction in second and third. Power hits too fast. Need a little more spool time
It would be for towing my camper with my mid sized truck. Spool earlier and I wouldn’t have to keep it 3000+ for hours on end.
Try the BMW N54 it's L6 3.0L twin turbo, I really love it, But cam here to watch the K24
@@yotaismygame I have a 135I with 298kw(400HP) at the wheels I'm still setting up boost by gear and I have a Mfactory LSD So it's fast in first, faster in second, and loss of license in 3rd - 6th, lots of fun
If you have a heavy vehicle truck or suv the ls is the best choice. If you have a small light weight vehicle you want fast the honda motor is the better choice for weight savings. Once you start getting into larger power number the ls is a much better budget friendly option.
A fun video, but for me, a lower tech V8 with boost every day of the week.
😁👍🏼
As far as efficiency goes wouldn't the 2.4L Honda be more efficient than the 4.8L LS? Therefore I would imagine that the 2.4L Honda would be more fuel efficient/mpg. Even if the 2.4L Honda needed to run much higher rpms. Granted the 4.8L LS looks much more torquey especially at lower rpms. I just wish that I knew more about the 2.4L Honda (or any of the Honda K-Series) which unfortunately I don't. Any thoughts?
Good test Richard, I would take the Honda k series for some high revving fun
K series all the way! Also there cheap, reliable, super efficient, 9k Rpm all day no problem. Plus u can't beat the gas efficiency 👌
I want the 4.8 for my s123 merc wagon and the k for my e36.
Choice 3: Big block with RV cam and twin turbos for mega torque right off idle. Run it with a lazy rear end gear and cruise the highways.
I want to see how the placement of the injector near the cylinder head and the inlet of the stack injection affects the power produced in LS motor with aftermarket cylinder head.
injector placement adds power-look at the Honda video
Sweet video awesome comparison!!!
The torque is what gets you moving. Put both in same car at same power the 4.8 wins everytime. No replacement for displacement.
Relative to the boost levels, 4.8L +roughly 0.5 bar of boost = 6.0L. 2.4L + roughly 1.0 bar = 4.8L. It's pretty clear which one is the more efficient engine.
I don't know anymore. After this a k24 240z seems amazing but hotrods are in my blood so v8 is instinct
For me it’s about the fun factor. Sure I could do an LS and be like every one else and their mother. Every week I go to the track with my 4 pot rwds (4g6x/PG) there are crowds wondering what’s going on, and how I run single digits back to back to back, when LS swapped s10s are not even as fast. It’s a fun conversation piece. Mainly I love the rpms after being stuck to low rpm v8s so long.
If I had the room LS, tight in room K series. Win/Win ….
Thanks for the videos, great job
Isent it some complex physics that makes smaller cylinder engines more efficient? Something with the mixture with fuel and air in the chamber and weight compared to strength
I think both engines have there place but as far as efficiency the K motor hands down. Set aside the "cool kid" factor of the sounds it makes lol
Weight difference between the engines?
Imagine the boosted 4.8 in the Nova.
Then Imagine the boosted K24 in the Nova.
Then imagine it on pump gas and a full exhaust.
pump e85
@@richardholdener1727 3 E85 stations in the state of Washington...according to DOE alternative fuels site.
E85 is not an option.
@@TwoLotus2 He doesn't live in washington
@@lucysmith4242 I don't care. I do.
@@TwoLotus2 I'm sorry you have to live in washington
I'd still go with the V8 simply because it does make more tq and because it makes more power throughout the curve. These 2 engines in a car that weighs identical, the V8 will be faster.
The v8 is can’t have high horsepower
V8 all day every day. Personal preference. Example: My friend built a v-twin chopper 15 years ago that was way more fun than my 600 rocket. I also daily a diesel truck...
I like the flat torque where it matters of the Honda.
4.8 is the way to go here,, little more boost and its not even close.. although you should of put the actual weight of each engine as well, that little 2.4 would be a bit lighter..
LS V8s have a nice compact and light structure, the difference is substantial, but not too striking. From what I found on the interwebs, not much more than 100 pounds.
@@twistedarrow3574 it would not be faster because the average power would be more with the 6.0lL you need to look at the whole RPM range between shifts not just the peak power numbers, your only at peak power for a fraction of a second. Just like this example in the video, even with the 4.8L down 10HP at peak it makes WAY more average hp all through the RPM range between shifts. The saying there is no replacement for displacement is true..
@@twistedarrow3574 is that a typo? 245hp at 2400lbs is mid 12s not low 11s. either your way off on the weight or way off on your hp numbers. And if you have a 6.0L in a 2800lb s10 then there is something VERY wrong with that engine to only be running mid 12s. a 2800lb car to run mid 12s your looking at ballpark 280-300hp range.. thats a huge problem to only be making that small of a hp out of a 6.0L
@@twistedarrow3574 I didnt say you would be in power a short time I said you would be at PEAK power a short time. You need to look at the total power range between shifts. depending on your gear ratios you will have about 1500ish rpm sweep, you need to look at your rpm after a shift up to redline again. That average power is what matters. Just like in the example with the 4.8L in this video. after a shift the rpm would be 5300rpm for the 4.8 and 6500rpm for the 2.4 L
4.8L @5300rpm 540HP 540ftlb
2.4L @6500rpm 490hp 400ftlb
thats a 50hp and 140ftlb increase for the 4.8L right after both shifted, and the 4.8 makes more power the entire rpm range other then just a 300rpm range at peak power for both engines. The 4.8L down 10hp has more average power.
The ls is cheaper to build even with double the cylinders n rods but the k takes up less room and is lighter.
How long would the Honda engine last at that power level without extensive (expensive) mods?
4.8 is way better. Sorry to hurt feelings lol. I'd take the 4.8 any day over the honda motor. 8psi vs 14.5psi and still not more hp, only a 500rpm difference at the top. When you said high boost I was thinking you were gonna say like 30psi for the Honda.
Way better? Lol bud, look at the torque curves. That ls is falling on its face hard at 5200 rpm. By 6000 its ready to go home for the day. An engine half the size is holding peak torque to redline and making more hp. How? Volumetric efficiency. The k24 would be walking away from that ls before the 1/8th mile mark. The performance is incomparable, a dohc head with variable valve timing and cam phasing vs a pushrod single cam with fixed valve timing. If all you want to do is burnouts and donuts get the ls. If you want a fast time slip, get the k24. It's like comparing a billy club to a machine gun.
@@t.j2881 🤣🤣🤣
4g63 with all the boost
Right on
Torque rules. 500 plus.
So who would win a drag race? All other things been even. A lower revving higher torque motor, or a high revving low torque motor?
Depends gear ratio, high revving car can use tight gear ratio between other gear to keep engine at peak horsepower
If everythings the same id assume the 4.8 more toque to get you off the line and the same horsepower wouldnt be enough to catch back up, but theres so many other things that can change a race.
Destroke a 6.0 with 4.8 crank and boom. 9k rpm on an ls on boost
that video is up-its not the stroke that determines rpm
Seems like the LS is making more average horsepower. While the Honda is making peak horsepower. In an equal weight vehicle I thiink the LS would take the cake.
Wanna get real kinky? look at Mazda rotary with turbo. The exaust of the rotary has high energy so it might be very turbo friendly.
Do a saturn sl2 1.9 Dohc i4 from 90-95
I like small, fast spinning engines with manual trannies, but turbo lag drives me bonkers.
Cue the rave, it's power time 😎
In the real world we have to factor in driveline durability. How much power will a Honda drivetrain take?
Do u have any tests on a 2jzge?
Yes. I love the math of the power output. The 2.4 engineered to be a v8 version would whoop most na ls motors?? Or that’s not how it works??? . Lol. Thanks Richard!!!
That's not how it works at all. Tq is the power a engine makes.
A V8 "K48" Honda engine would definitely make more power then any 4.8 or 5.3 LS, and it should. We would be talking about a DOHC V8 with Vtec versus and old pushrod design. The only advantage for the pushrod is packaging. They are small physically. You can fit a 7.0 LS7 in the same space that you could fit a 5.0 coyote or this hypothetical "K48" Honda engine. I'd still love to see it though.
@@HioSSilver1999 It's about torque to the wheels. If engine "A" has 400ft/lbs with a 5,000 rpm redline, and and engine "B" has 200ft/lbs with a 10,000 rpm redline, then you can use 2 times shorter gearing in engine "B" to achieve a given speed. Gearing multiplies torque to the wheels, so both of these cars would accelerate at the same speed if all other variables are the same.
@@Jr_5646 yea....it don't quite work like that.
But while you're trying to even everything up.....even up those boost levels and watch what happens. But really that don't even need to be done.....na results are even boost
@@HioSSilver1999 Gearing multiplies engine torque. Thats exactly how it works! Thats why you accelerate faster in 2nd gear then you do in 3rd. The engine isn't producing more HP or torque at a given rpm. The gearing advantage is producing that. A stock Lamborghini huracan makes about 400 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels. Thats the same or a little less then my stock camaro, but a huracan will destroy my car because it can carry that torque way past the rpm that I can and can use shorter gearing. Thats how horsepower works. I own a pushrod powered car, but im not a fanboy of it. There's many different ways to go fast, and I like them all.
LS
Can you do a honda v6
So did the honda make same power with less boost? Or did it with more? he said it did same power with relatively less boost but earlier he said they were gonna run it on more than the ls just confused how much boost was the ls on? Great video
So, it took more boost for the Honda to get to that power level, but less than you'd expect, because it is so efficient at making power with that limited displacement.
Holdener is saying that it's "relatively less" because if the Honda was only as efficient as the LS, it would have needed even more.
If we remember that atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi, it makes sense. It took the LS 1.5x the amount of air (atmospheric plus half another (7.7 lbs of boost)) but it only took the Honda 2x the base amount of air (atmospheric plus 14.7), even though it's only half the size. Pretty impressive.
Thx guys
He keeps saying that it is a 62mm and its not. That is definitely a 6765.
Will you do a 3.6 out of a Camaro.
What sort of manual trans would bolt up to the Honda and work rwd?
There's all kinds of K24 adapters out there .. T5/T56, BMW ZF, Miata, RX8, Ford T9 (think European Merkur/Scorpio), and the list goes on. If you have the know-how or know someone with the know-how you could probabably make an adapter for most any trans.
"Little engine "lol, weighs about the same
They make similar peak power, but I think in the same chassis (but gearing changed to suit each motor) the 4.8 would be faster, because of power under the curve. That's the plan with the Nova?
I don't know how close I'm on this but it seems to me that the 4.8 LS could be run on 91 octane fuel just fine at this lower boost and be more streetable in a daily driver where the Honda 2.4 would need at least E85 or race gas to maintain this power level. I honestly don't know if I'm right or wrong. am I close or way off base. I'm still trying to figure out turbos
Very nice!
Richard do you have any charts on the early iron 6.0 LS truck heads?
Yup check out the 'they belong in the dumpster' video series .
Before you say that's all I have , you can pick up 243 heads for a $200 dollars .
Personally I blame squirrels
Chipmunks did it :-).
ALVINNNNN!!!
Torque wins races, horsepower sells cars
4.8 all day every day
Torque makes power. Horsepower is torque and rpm.
@@177SCmaro I know, it's an expression
@@CyberdriveAutomotive
Granted. But it's an inaccurate one.
@@177SCmaro EH
How heavy would that honda engine be roughly
I was able to carry it by myself out my trunk. I'm a small dude 5'6 I'd say maybe 160-180lbs
They are light, about 250lbs. I have lifted and carried multiple K24 and K20 engines fully dressed out of the back of my truck, to my house and down the stairs myself. I would weight one for you to get the exact weight but none are complete anymore.
STOCK INTERNALS??
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Yes
why do you think the k24 made more than double its na power when boosted to like 14.5 psi?
Because pressure isn't the number that matters, if he had an air flow meter it be be reading much more than twice the amount of air at 14.5psi manifold pressure than it would be in NA configuration. Could also figure out manifold density/air flow if he had a fuel flow sensor and the basics logged.
Because honda motors are some of the very few engines out there that have over 100% volumetric efficiency, or VE.
K24 head flows EXTREMELY WELL and is EXTREMELY WELL DESIGNED.
Maybe it pushed torque peak to a higher RPM
@@lucysmith4242 The K24 HAS to make both peaks at a much higher RPM to make up for the discrepancy in displacement.
@@rustysausage69 I'm aware. I was saying maybe it seemed to have that great efficiency on boost because it pushed torque peak to a higher RPM than it was NA. I gotta look at the graphs
I’m at 00:30 and want the Honda
It's even better some times to have a little less power, than to mess up weight balance of a car with that heavy engine.
Honda
In a perfect world, Honda would've married two K series to make a 4.8L V8.
What's the cost difference between the two?
I'll for sure stick with the 4.8!
Please @richard ninja 🥷 master, put some boost on the L83! Upvote this comment boys! Let’s get an LT MOTOR ON THE STAND!
Give me a V8 any day
Where's the coyote
4.8 with pump gas 2.4 race gas 4.8 all day also was this ran on waste gate spring not a boost controller and from a dead stop the v8 is gonna kill freeway pull the Honda May walk away