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Brake Upgrades for VW or Audi Explained
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2017
- In this video, we talk about brake upgrades for VW and Audi models. Often times we get questions from customers who want to know what type of brake setup they can get for their VW or Audi model. In this video, we cover sport pads like the EBC Red Stuff and compare them to race pads like the EBC yellow stuff.
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Great video, love how u discussed the cons of a track/autocross pad’s cold performance and didn’t just mention noise and dust
5 year old video very informative and on point what i needed. Subbed 👍
lets get that audio checked out....volume knob on the player broke off.
I think it would be worthwhile to mention some of the standard brake setup in VAG cars that allow for simple upgrade of rotor size (to higher OE one). For example the 288mmx25mm front disc in the Octavia I use (mk2 FL) can have its rotors upgraded to 312mmx25mm keeping pretty much everything same (as pads, calipers, brake boosters, guiding pins etc are all the same). The case is similar for many mk5/mk6 golf platform cars that use the particular size. Effectively you get a bigger heat sink (and if needed a sportier version of it too) for a very small cost.
the golf mk5 r32 and audi s3 3.2L use 345mm rotors and these can be bolted on to other vehicles based on the mk5 platform.
i know people using porshe 370mm brake rotors on a mk5
They can't be bolted on straight onto every Mk5 vehicle, for eg to those which are running stock 288mm/312mm setups. It would then require different calipers, different pads and more. But upgrade with using OE components itself is possible. VAG parts bin and interchangeability is quite extensive.
P.S: I also own a Skoda Superb Mk2 3.6, which has the same brake setup (345mm vented front and 310mm vented rear, like the R36 passat), but they can't be swapped onto my other Skoda car which uses 288mm rotor setup.
Avinash Menon ii have a 2012 B7 what can brake up grade can i swap in place, maybe off an Audi ? Thanks.
YellowStuff pads are NOT track pads. They make no claim they are full track pad. YellowStuff are for Fast Road use, AND some light track use. (3-5 laps then cool the car down)
Bluestuff pads and OrangeStuff pads are for track use.
I've got a B5 Passat with drilled & slotted rotors and Duralast Gold S/M pads. It stops great, little dust. Sometimes it's just having the right combo
Excellent video, thanks a lot.
If I were to use drilled rotors on a 05 mk4 for a daily driver, not a track or race ride would I still have to worry about the cracks you stated? Great vid!
Hey paul i watch the channel and appreciate your input and info about mk7s and currently ive been shoppong online through you guys, just had a question in regards to the song you always play at the end of all your vids if i may ask what is it called? Thanks and cheers
Great intro
Did you do a video for your matte black wrap?
Do you have a video on how to change rotors and pads for MK7?
Great Breakdown - Thanks. Are the yellow stuff pads really that noisy?
Brakes are normally slotted or drilled not for heat dissapation, but for off gassing between rotor and pad.
What brand of ceramic brakes’ pads and rotors Do you recommend for VW Tiguan 2016? Soon I will need to replace them I usually drive 100 miles daily on the city and highways. Thanks for your videos
A question does the vwr air filters for vw do they void your warranty and how often do you clean those
I'm doing an audi S3 8V caliper upgrade on my MK7 GTi and i'm wondering do i need to replace the banjo bolts ?
Can I use Stoptech’s crossdrilled rotors with stock pads?
I use EBC Red Stuff pads with crossed drilled/ slotted rotors on my 2016 (B6 ) Passat and they are amazing. Ton of dust, but I am very hard on them.
Great info as usual.
I personally find the EBC yellow to be street-track pad and not a true track pad.
I've had issues with them, but there's limited options...
MrConflictedd, I agree with you. I have them on my MK5 with 350bhp, they're OK for the street, but brake 7-8 times hard and they'll start to fade...
Thats because thats exactly what it is. A few laps on a track, but not for Racing or all day track use.
You're a legend
I have a 03 Audi a4 b6 what up can I do in the front calipers an rotors up grade thanks
If i get bigger rotors for my mk6, will my caliper bracket and caliper still fit?
I was surprised on my new 2017 gti the brakes produce a lot of dust. Like when I get home after a quick drive my rims are covered in dust
Same. I have a 2019 GTI. My rims look bronze :P
I have the same problem
buy the ebc redstuff 👀
Just go with big brake kit. I bought three BBKs in the past several years, never regret. Swapping pads on a stock single piston brake is just pain in the ass comparing with a four/six piston system anyway.
Jinge Liu which brand
Great videos. Quick question. If buying a new car, with 0 miles on it, should you bed in the brakes, or has VW done that at the factory? on a side note how can one find out all (or some) of the car prep done by VW out of the factory? CHEERS
With a new car they say to go easy on the brakes initially.
Slightly off topic but, why is so little attention paid to rear brakes? With the advent of ABS are the small calipers and rotors still good enough? Wouldn't braking distance be much improved by investing (by auto makers) in better rear brakes. My assumption is cost. Or maybe weight transfer causes the tiny brakes to still be the max that a vehicle needs.
Weight transfer is pretty much the reason. Even those cars with smaller difference between front and rear rotor dia (Eg: B8 Audi S4 with 345 front vs 330mm rear or a F10 BMW 535d/535i), you will notice that rear rotors are considerably thinner (even if both are ventilated, front thicker by 33% roughly). This means a considerably smaller heat sink is required at the rear, which corresponds to lesser momentum to stop and thereby lesser braking force. So for the same cost of development/upgrade, the improvement in braking is better achieved by focusing on the front itself.
That being said depending on the ratio of the weight transfer, braking pressures that are possible through a given booster/pad/caliper etc, the rear rotors/pads may need upgrade too, in order to fully utilize the benefit of an upgraded front brake without the rear starting to lock.
It'd be great if you could do one of these for tires. The factory tires are barely acceptable, and with a tune I spend more time spinning tires than going (even with all the electronic assists). i'm thinking good tires mean better braking.. Thanks for all your great work!
Do steel brake lines necessary when upgrade pads only?
those pads are for use with the stock calipers, right?
That rotor and those pads are huge! Certainly not for a VW?
Just had a look on EBC site and there's stated the opposite for the pads: Yellowstuff are metallic the most agressive for street and the redstuff are ceramic, designated for track use. Did they changed the "color code"?
Sebastian Liciu so much poor information in this video. For the record, slotting the rotors absolutely does not help with heat dissipation either! It’s to remove brake dust and water.
Sorry but ebc yellow fails under hard use. Few youtubers showed what happens to yellow stuff after track use.
Our host clearly stated that the red EBC pads were suitable for the track. Listen again?
@@robertbarrett778 yellows for the track for track driving, red for the street for sport driving. Commenter is stating that yellow ebc track pads aren't that great for actual track use, so the red sport pads would be even worse. Not just that, he clearly stated that the red pads are not suitable for track use, totally opposite of what you implied.
Ya I’ve had yellow stuff on my car and in canyon driving I experienced fade on these pads. Most definitely not track pads, need to go with some G Loc or extremely aggressive Hawk pads
the differans in top heat range stock mk7 gti pad vs red and yelow stuff. and are you gona do a vid on your new dsg replacment paddels?
Hi I'm wanting to upgrade my mk7 golf rotors from 288mm to 312mm would I have to change the carriers to do this thanks Dan.
Yes
Make sure it’s stamped 57 on the caliper
55 wont work
You're done already, 310mm is standard on a stock GTI, 340mm on Performance models
I have a question so what about if I did one track day per year would the red pad still wouldn't be good? Also maybe I can message you and we can work together in the future
The problem is not about one track day per year. It's about whether your pads will be good for even one session. If your brake pads aren't up for it, you will have a set of fading (and maybe even smoking) pads after just one session. Getting eaten up isn't the issue here for these pads (just make sure you check the thickness often), the issue is whether they will be able to take the heat.
my mk7 pp brakes worked perfectly on track. I suggest a hawk DTC70 or 60. which is what I run on my Camaro
nick if only Hawk made DTC pads for the mk7 :(
what about redstuff pads with stock rotors for an Audi S3. I think rotors are 380mm and 340mm.
Where do I get upgrades for my jetta 2017?
You say race car that gets good fuel economy and goes off road you must pick one? Why not have all three with an Audi quattro rally car?
Question, hopefully sombody with so. E experience can help.
I've tried aftermarket breaks before. My biggest concern with aftermarket breaks, is the quality & longevity.
The issue I've always had was the rotors warp, I get too much vibration and the pads Squeal at low speeds.
For that reason, I'd lean towards Oem breaks.
Does you guys find EBC pads and rotor do this?
i had zimmerman en ebc warped disc. went to brembo disc en pads, stops like a champ. mk5 gti with r20 brakes
i’m going to sell my PP brakes, and purchase Macan calipers soon as i figure out the carriers and backing plates. just don’t want to sell anything i should keep
Ebc class the Yellowstuff pads as fast road or track with a wide useful temperature range having good bite from cold . .... Not quite what you’re telling us.
What "VW dubium" means? Sometimes it's 49, sometimes 165. The only explanation I found is that "...dumium is the most important material in Volkswagen...". What does it mean? I don't get it, pls explain someone
In theory couldn’t you also have a different pad and rotor set up not just different pads
Look for a rear break upgrade for mk6 autobahn
yellowstuff sucks on track, it will fade. and Red for DD use have a lot dust
I track my car and daily drive it. From my experience, EBC yellowstuff is everything but a TRACK pad. Honestly it doesn't make significant noise during daily driving. But it's horrible on tracks. PLEASE AVOID IT AT ALL COST ON TRACKS, cause they will smoke like they are on fire, they will fade, and they will be extremely inconsistent (all happened to me). I personally would even pick the stock S3/R pads over them. Just go with some quality pads like iSweep IS3000 I'd say. Avoid this cheap piece of garbage at all cost.
I'd say yellowstuff was fine on my TTS for 2-3 laps until they faded and needed cooling. Lasted 3 track days. Now on bluestuff and much better, no fade no noise. And still road legal. Will see how long they will last though.
EBC Yellow stuff is not a track pad. Please read the website it says STREET, DRIFT, and SHORTER TRACK use. It also says the yellow stuff doesn't need to be warmed up. "it has high friction from cold,
not requiring warm up for street use yet when loaded up and really hot the brakes just get better". Stop spreading misinformation based on guesswork.
yellowstuff crumble under real track conditions...
EBC YellowStuff are NOT track pads. they're glorified street pads
If you're driving a VW or Audi, brakes are the least of your worries...
dude I like your videos but you don't sound confident in a lot of this
i wrinting you by email no answer