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long shot but do you know if the 1.6L TDI MK7 (2016) needs a DSG service? A few shops I've called said VW doesn't recommend it as it's a "lifetime fluid"
it's also worth mentioning that once you reinstall the battery and turn the car on every single light in the dash will be on. turning the steering wheel full lock left and full lock right is a warning light reset for when the battery in disconnected and reconnected.
you could use a "car memory saver" which is an OBD connector that you can plug it in beneath the steering wheel which has a small battery that has enough voltage and current to keep your car's computer memory alive while you take out the car battery.
Heck yeah I love when I run into random super helpful info in a comment section. It’s like overhearing something really cool in a public place. Thanks yo
only once I had a problem with the esp warning light after battery was disconnected it cleared itself after I reversed out of the garage, my car is an audi c6
I used this today to do the DSG. It wasn't hard at all. This guide was spot on for my 2017 A3. The only surprise was 20 minutes to get the trans temp up high enough. Other than that and a monster thick and huge aluminum belly pan that had 10 13mm bolts, 7 T25 and 5 T30 screws, it made a huge difference in trans performance. I waited to 45K miles, but should have done it 15K miles ago. Thanks!
Hey, can you please escalate these situations to the higher ups? If you can? Because these things are really out of hand. They are asking gigantic prices for simple repairs and often don't know what they are doing. It gives VW's a bad name as "being unreliable", when really it is the maintenance at these dealerships and their bad service! Thanks for owning up to it man, appreciate it.
Well.. what does it mean? Most non-German manufacturers use simple terms like “All Wheel Drive” or “Rear Wheel Drive” or “Automatic Transmission” rather than ambiguous and dumb terms like “Quattro”, “Tiptronic”, and “4Motion”.
@@Bartonovich52 First of all, many non-European manufacturers trademark their proprietary AWD systems and designs, not all of which have "AWD" in their names: Honda / Acura (SH-AWD), Subaru (Symmetrical AWD), Mitsubishi (S-AWC), Ford (Intelligent AWD), Toyota / Lexus (Dynamic Torque Control / All-Trac), Chevrolet (Sport Control), Hyundai (HTRAC). You sound very dumb thinking there is no value in building a reputation with trademarking. You also sound really stupid thinking it's just German manufacturers that do this. As pointed out above, other non-German manufacturers do it too, some with ambiguous nomenclature as well. Same applies to "Tiptronic," which merely represents a torque converter automatic transmission that allows you to manually choose gears. It's no different than Chevy's TAPshift, Hyundai's H-Matic, Subaru's SportShift, Kia's Sportmatic, Nissan's Xtronic, etc etc. Secondly, the Alltrack only comes equipped with 4Motion. There is no option for FWD models. The service advisor should know without a doubt that an Alltrack is an AWD vehicle and shouldn't ask a stupid question. The Golf Sportwagen, Alltrack's sister model, does have a standard FWD system but it is paired with an AISIN 8-speed torque converter and wouldn't need a DSG service. The GSWs with the AWD option are equipped with DSGs. So you should just quit now and stop talking. You're going to make a bigger fool of yourself.
When I was a vw tech we were taught to have it operating temp, then lift then pull plug and insert let it drain. Then fill til it backfed into the filler tube then start the vehicle and put more in incase it needs it. Then we pull the tool and let it drain a little because that insert is for the full level. Anything over that while running is overfill
You guys (along with our friend, the Humble Mechanic) have the best VAG DIY videos and info ever. They have been invaluable to me and my '01 GTI VR6 and '06 A3 2.0T FSI. Many thanks!
Thank-you so much! Just bought a 2013 TT for my daughter and have a lot to learn on the maintenance (first Audi). Now we can do this service ourselves with confidence.
I did this with a jack, stands and my obdeleven scan tool to check temps, very easy to do on the road. Just ordered 6 bottles and a pipe to gravity fill from the bottom, replaced gearbox filter by taking out the battery and tray, total job time 1hour? Waiting for the car to warm up was the longest part 😩 Thanks for the video, was the reason I did it.
A note on filling via the filter housing. I found if you attach a rubber hose the same diameter as the filter hole and put the funnel into that so it's sealed, it filled very quickly. And much cheaper than the specialist fill tools. It seems this is very expensive in the US. When I first got a DSG car I got some quotes in the UK. And the standard price at a VW or Skoda garage was around £170-180 (approx $230). I still did it myself and saved money.
long shot but do you know if the 1.6L TDI MK7 (2016) needs a DSG service? A few shops I've called said VW doesn't recommend it as it's a "lifetime fluid"
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@@iamdmc they call it lifetime, but its better to change it every 60k km
@ I still have warranty on it, and am probably selling the car in 6 months with 40K miles on it. Have an email from the dealer saying it's a lifetime fluid with no change so if ever I need to make a warranty claim it seems clear cut that they have to conduct any and all repairs (with 0 excess/deductible to me)
I literally just did the DSG service on my 13 Passat TDI today. It took me longer to prep my garage (clean and clear level floor space) and put the car on jack-stands than to do the procedure. The cost to purchase a complete service kit came to a little over 500 bucks. Mind you, that was fuel, oil and trans filter, cabin and air filter along with the motor oil and trans fluid. The transmission fluid pump also! Thanks to Deutsche Auto Parts, ID Parts and Ross-Tech for all the valuable supplies and DIY videos that make a shade-tree DIY successful!
Something crucial missed in this procedure: there is an initial fill, you must run the transmission "through the gears" by placing it in reverse, neutral, and drive for approximately 10 seconds each, and then check the level. I recommend overfilling slightly on the initial fiill. Then, once it reaches 35ish degrees, continue with an aditional fill or cap off if you managed to get enough in there initially. Otherwise, the guy is right. If you want to do the work yourself it's technically feasible but you'll need a scan tool to measure temperature, the necessary tools to remove your battery, airbox, filter housing, drain plug(s), and a to pump the fluid in, and you'll have to deal with quite the mess if you don't have a hoist. Also, be careful. These transmissions are sensitive and finicky. Make sure that level is correct and you're using the appropriate gear oil.
Serious question: is the crucial missed procedure per your opinion or per Volkswagen? What you refer to I know is relevant to the older planetary auto gear boxes, just don’t think it applies to the DSG. I could be wrong.
Not really sure it applies to DSGs either, DSGs don't work on the same principles as torque converter ones like Tiptronics, as far as I remember DSGs use hydraulics to engage the clutches/lubrication, and a mechatronic system to select the diferent gears, so no driving through gears may be required, nothing wrong on doing it though.. tiptronics are different as they use the typical valve body that diverts hydraulic pressure to select through gears and requires drive through gears so oil can flow and fill every line.. maybe I can be wrong but it could be the case why it's not "crucial" on this kind of transmissions
@@KasamS man.. but that's not even how DSGs work.. oil flows on the wet clutches even if no gear is selected... dry clutches don't even have oil on them, and to top that, clutches are not engaged when you select D or R on DSGs, they only engage when vehicle starts to move, so in order to make them engage, vehicle would require to be driven and not "put on gear"... could you please share the VW service manual requiring that?
Would be a good idea. I used to have an apprentice who used to do it that way on Mercedes actros lorrys until I scalded him. There's actually over 6 litres of oil in the filter housing of those engines that's more than most car engines take. I'd actually like to know how much oil is held in a dsg filter housing some 1 please tell me.
@@Tobberobbe97 So I bought 2011 vw jetta tdi with 117,000 miles and car rocked when putting it into park sometimes and slow to go into reverse and back to drive sometimes but not bad. It’s at 195,000 miles and haven’t changed the transmission fluid once. Should I do it or will it be screwed since it hasn’t been done in forever? Thanks for any input!
I don't recommend filling from top by adding what came out. If the fluid level was low, or if the fluid is at a different temperature, the level will very. Filling from the top isn't an issue if overfilled and checked at temp. Just my $0.02
@@MysteryScienceGamingApparently, quite a lot of professional shops do not do the proper level-setting method that VW calls for. They just put in fluid and ship it.
In case this helps anyone I just had an easy time top filling with the shopdap kit. You can just stick the other end of the clear tubing in the kit into the hole where the fluid filter sits, and then open the valve on the other end of the tubing that screws onto the fluid bottles. After the first inch or so drains out the bottle while you're holding it up, poke a hole (I used a drill) in the top corner of the bottle to let air replace the fluid going out of the bottle and the entire bottle will flow into the transmission in like 1 minute each. It is very slow if you don't poke that hole, just like trying to pour out a can of chicken broth or juice you only poked one hole in and not two. I'm assuming this would make gravity filling via bottom fill method much faster as well if you go that route. I also put the fluid bottles in the sun for a bit to get the fluid nice and hot so it flowed faster when I filled. It was about 43 degree C when I checked with obdeleven, perfect.
You can use a $5 pump that screws onto the fluid bottles instead of the expensive pump in the video. It was my understanding that you should manually shift the car through the gears (with foot on the brake) while setting the level.
The top fill is not dreadfully slow. I have seen a video somewhere where he shows you how long it takes. It is about a minute or 2 per liter. If you like doing it from below or you don't want to wait (maybe you had plans or other things you wanted to do). I would still recommend checking the fluid the proper way regardless of which one you do. It is messy but that is going to be better than a ruined transmission! I don't know anyone who likes transmission problems except for people who get paid to replace them. I don't own a DSG but I do like Liqui Moly oils. You can't go wrong with them as long as you choose the right one for your need. I don't get any money from them what so ever to say nice things, they just make good stuff! The only bad thing about it is if you like to buy your oil from Walmart (of all places) you won't find it on their shelves! I know I never did!
Just got mine done yesterday for $495 in Cincinnati OH. In Kentucky, my local dealer asked for a whopping $700 for DSG! My local dealership will never get a dollar from me again! 😄
Thanks for the video, took me 15 min to service the DSG in my 2006 VW TDI. I bought the pump from you a year or so ago and just now got around to doing it now. The pump helps tremendously and i'd suggest to anyone to get or borrow a pump.
KS Tools offers a vw dsg filter tool, its like a box end crows foot. Enables you to change filter by just removing the air intake hose. A tool worth buying if you are planing to do more then 1DSG service. And for a price comperison DSG service costs 470 USD in Sweden.
I found the top fill method easier and less messy, with a little prep work. The hole for the filter drain is 12 mm in diameter. You can make an oil pump from a cheap garden sprayer, and I filed down the plastic nozzle to exactly push into the filter hole. Replaced the tubing including the internal tube with 6mm ID clear vinyl tubing for maximum flow and least retention of oil. Seal the tube where it passes through the container with a coupe of o-rings. Fill the container with oil, pump it up and walk away. I got all 6L in for the overfill stage! Used about 4.7L after level set procedure.
The price has gone up since 5 years ago (just like everything else) I had an independent shop quote $655 and a dealer that quoted $550 but no filter change...Looks like I'll be doing this myself. Great Video.
My local mechanic VW/AUDI certified does it for $60 plus another $60 for Febi Dsg Fluid/filter, ROWE (Made in Germany) is good too and around same price, gets the job done for $120. Have done it myself in the past doing the top fill. Might try doing it again after watching this video.
How do they do it for $60 labour? There's a lot of time spent removing the intake manifold, battery and tray just to get to the filter. And then to reverse all those steps out. Surely that's more than $60 in labour costs for such a job?
Liquimoly fluid works fine but stinks to high heaven. I made the mistake of spilling a little bit and the smell took forever to go away. Great video 👍👍
When I was wrenching for a dealer in 2013-2014, me and the guys on my team used our vacuum powered fluid extractors to apply vacuum to the case breather vent and filled through filter on top. We had the DSG services down to 10 minutes, maybe 15 minutes on a slow day. The fluid extractors would only make a very slight vacuum within the transmission but it was enough to suck the fluid down the open filter cavity super quick. We gave 'em a good drain while hot and since fluid capacity was just about exactly the 5 bottles we got from parts, we never had issues with overfilling just dumping 5 bottles in. Worst case scenario, the DSG's maybe ended up with literally only a couple ounces of extra fluid. Having just ever so slight vacuum in the tranny was nice cause we could pour each bottle in at a nice steady rate. The trickiest and slowest part was carefully popping the cap off the breather vent to not break 'em...LOL. We also NEVER pulled drain plugs to do oil changes on TDI's and chain drive 2.0T's. The guys on the two other teams mostly did things the hard way. Management never questioned us cause our way never caused any problems. We whipped out the "K" Services quick as sh!t and our team dealt with most all of the really bullsh!t warranty crap not to mention our team had little to no comeback issues either.
Not sure what you mean by breather 'cap'. Isn't the black tube with the filter box on the end of it the transmission vent, as he described? (Visible at ruclips.net/video/UjxAQsePR7Q/видео.html) Or is there another vent somewhere?
i was finally able to do it myself, took me making a trip to my dad's house for the drive on lift (jack and stands wasn't cutting it). pulled the plugs after driving getting to house while nice and warm. used your pump bought from ya, and it was very easy. measured what came out and put back in same. while was under it for the 1st time, found where leaking little oil, looks like part of the turbo area. what is a common factor? didn't have any problems of leaks or use until the EPC light came on and dealer ended up telling me had to replace motor which they did far as i am aware of.
I’ve seen other DIY’s where the tech starts the car and then shifts the vehicle from P to R to N to D into Sport mode and all the “manual gears” while the fluid is getting up to temp. Is that not necessary?
Any "memory loss" from removing the battery? I used to go through that in the '90's a lot when I was doing more work on my own vehicles. Nobody ever mentions it any more, so it may not be an issue now. There used to be tools which would, for lack of a more exacting term, "feed" 12v backwards through the 12v interior outlet, in an attempt to hold the ecu's memory.
I'm a DIY guy to the extent that the cost to get the job done by someone else isn't worth it. TBH, this one seems like it's worth the extra scratch to have someone else do it. But kudos on a fantastic video!
When changing oil i always remove the filter first as it could trap some fluid in the system. Do you think it's worthwhile to do the same on the DGS service? Remove the transmission filter first?
I was thinking the same - if you replace the drain plug before removing the filter, the old oil from the filter housing has nowhere to drain.. Could there be a specific reason he did it in the order that he did?
My daughter was like, " Dad, it's super easy, just pull this plug, then that plug and let it drain. Put back together and fill from the little hole where the filter goes." She obviously watched the wrong RUclips video. LOL. Took around 1.5hr to complete. She took the car for a test drive and came back grinning. Sport mode now shifts properly.
One of the VW dealers here in San Antonio, TX where I bought my car wants about $400 + for the DSG service on my 2017 Alltrack. Too bad you guys aren't local. I'll take $229 all day long. I'll keep shopping around for an independent VW shop here in SA. Thanks for the video. Very informative.😁
I just had a DSG service on my Audi TT at the Audi dealer, here (The Netherlands, Europe) the prices are averywhere the same for standard maintenance stuff. I payed € 247,- ex VAT. Thats 275,- USD...😃
One word of advise. When draining trans or dif etc. Always open the fill plug first. Reason being if you can't get it open you're not in a panick because you didn't drain the fluid with no method of getting it back in until you find a way to solve the fill plug issue first. Just a hard learned lesson. lol
I did my dsg service along with my 5k mile engine oil and filter change yesterday....at 46k miles i filled the transmission from the top.... it didnt take that long at all... maybe 35 mins.... and its more tidier than filling from below.... i measured exactly what came out and put the same amount back in....no wasted dsg oil. When i initially drained the box.... i probably had about 1/4 litre of overflow...before removing the black tube... and i ended up putting in 4.8L in the end.... so i know its not under filled...or overly over filled. 👍
@@grahamwills8580 I actually put another 0.25L on top in the end.. since the car drained about 0.25L when I initially removed the first screw... I have about 0.5 more oil than the first interval... therefore I know it would drain again as I didn't restart the car warm.it up and drain off..... that was last year... the car has been fine...no problems at all...
@@grahamwills8580 to answer your question...the total amount of oil removed was about 0.25L + 4.55L (4.8L) ...i ended putting in 5.1L of fresh oil in the end....but did not redrain.
@@grahamwills8580 start draining the GB oil first.... then (if you have the dsg)... once it's done.. make sure you press down the purge on the filter housing to allow air into the top...this will drain more GB oil at the bottom...if you open it without doing this you may well get a fair bit of spillage when you remove the filter housing and old filter...which is hard to clean up and get your hand down there... you have to remove the battery and battery cradle before doing this oil change btw...but you probably know that already.... get yourself a funnel and plastic clear piping for filling the new oil (I got these bits from machine& mart)... I used the genuine vw approved oil btw.
When you take out the oil, rebember to take out the oil filter first so the air that is pressed in the filter house will take out the last oil that was in that part because else you dont get all the dirty old oil out if you dont do that first.
@@mitcho2460 Actually yes, because that ensures that the transmission fluid/oil gets everywhere it is supposed to be. If you dont do that, there are some areas of the transmission that get no fluid, and after you check the oil level by draining the exes oil out, and go drive it after that, the oil goes to where its supposed to be, and the oil level dips a bit. Also this ensures that there is nothing running dry while you are checking the oil level. This is the same with every transmission i know of. This probably is not the end of the world, but there is no down side of doing it, and that is how you are supposed to do it.
Warm up the oil a bit if using the gravity fill method. I leave it in the sauna for a bit and the filling takes like 10 minutes. First time didn't warm it up and took close to an hour.
I have yet to do mine but here are the steps Ive put together: *Required tools* Oil drain pan Rags or paper towels Torque wrench 14mm hex socket for drain plug 8 mm allen key for overflow tube 24 mm socket for filter housing *Steps* Warm up car so oil will drain freely Put car on jack stands (NB car must be LEVEL) Remove skid plate or sound shield from under car Ensure transmission fluid < 50C to avoid scalding Place plastic or cardboard on floor to catch splashes Place drain pan under drain plug Remove drain plug and drain Remove overflow tube and leave to drain Remove battery, battery holder, air intake Clean around filter housing Place rags around housing to catch oil spills Loosen filter housing 7 turns and wait 30 seconds to drain Remove filter housing slowly, let drip Pop off filter & let drain 30 seconds before removing Check O-ring is on the filter not still in filter housing Suck out oil from filter housing Clean drain plug & replace crush washer with new Replace overflow tube, fingertight only (3 Nm) Replace drain plug, fingertight only Shake oil containers before pouring Overfill gearbox with ~ 5.5 litres of oil from top with funnel in filter pipe Change O-ring on filter housing & coat with oil Check O-ring is in position in new filter & coat with oil Put in new filter Screw in filter housing & torque to 20 Nm Replace air intake, battery housing and battery Start car and monitor transmission oil temp (DSG Channel 19) If temp over 40, stop and let cool further When temp reaches 38C, remove drain plug Let drain until a steady drip Replace drain plug, torque to 45 Nm
@@Cosak11 Some people monitor the temperature of the gearbox from outside I think, with a radiation pyrometer. Oil Temperature is the only reason to use a scan tool I think.
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I'm due a dsg oil change on my 2014 Skoda Octavia Vrs .I don't have a scan tool but think about measuring the gear box casing temp when it gets to 40 degrees then check the levels .
Your channel and website are awesome. I've learned a lot from you guys and appreciate you taking the time to give details about service, tool and part options, and common sense advice. Thanks DAP.
These videos are great. Very informative and helpful for someone who has the tools and the time. Im from Ontario Canada and I go to Mr. Transmission who does this service for under $300.00 Can. The parts alone are approx. $150.00
I am working for VW .. according to vw you start the engine while the filling system is still pluged in (after you filled it for sure) then you remove the fillingsystem and the plug let it flow out untill its starts to drip then you put back the screw after that u go in to your car and go through all gears once after that your are done..
thats correct. I have done my 2008 passat2.0 td 6 clucth. But I wonder should I make the basic settings with VDCS group 63,62,67.(not sure which number comes first ) etc... after change dsg oil. My car took 5.4 liters. I filled 5.7 liters and after dripp 0.3 liters came out.
We most of the time use ODIS not VDCS anymore .. tho for a dsg oilchange we don't use it at all might be wrong but accouroding to VW we don't have to at all .. don't ask me why .. if we know its around 5l we fill 6l let it drip and you are good to go .. xD
For Mk7.5s - You DO NOT need to remove the Battery/Tray or the Air Box or Anything else. You simply go through the Exhaust tunnel and the Filter is right there. So, anyone curious about that - now you know.
I have seen some videos about the DSG also and some of them said when you reach above 35C you need to shift the transmission between R,N and D for 10 seconds for each. Is this necessary?
Just did a DSG flush & filter today. Following this video. I dont beleive its mentioned clearly. Once you remove the second drain plug, and no other fluid is drainning out as seen at 9:22 . Put the the second drain plug in BEFORE you put your new fluid in the transmission. Hope this helps someone at least. Otherwise im greatfull to these guys for making this video. Thank you!
The new filter.. did it just kind of sit on there or did it kinda "snap" on? I recently did my change and the new filter just kinda sat there whereas the oem filter I took off would "snap" on for lack of a better term. According to the documentation that came with the filter it was fine and compatible and I haven't had a problem since, I was just curious.
Aftermarket fluids are "recommended" by the manufacturer but usually aren't actually approved for whatever specifications they're claiming to meet. There's a difference between approved and recommended.
Thats nothing mate, i got an inline v6 4 cylinder with a front mount manifold delete, meth injected seat harnesses with a top flap enlargement case sensor upgrade, rear wheel drive modded to Quattro intake system
I recently went from a MK7 GTI to an Audi A3 Quattro. Both 2017s. I had the dealer do a couple of oil changes on the GTI with tire rotation and it was always under $100. Same thing at the local Audi dealer was $245. Same exact parts and labor. The VW dealer has express service and you could walk in and be out in 30 minutes or so. Audi dealer needed a 2 week advance appointment and got finished at 6pm just as the service department was closing. They did wash and vacuum the car so I guess there’s that.
Glad I have a 6sp manual A3. Over here it's $1850 for S tronic transmission oil replacement. Yeah nah I'll keep my manual gearbox. Besides, it's more fun.
How do you know if you have a DSG or non-DSG transmission? My daughters 2018 Beetle 2.0 S-trim owners manual has a whole section on DSG but also mentions not all cars have them. The maintenance schedule also mentions 6-speed DSG transmission fluid should be changed every 40K miles but has a section for non-DSG which states the trans fluid should be changed every 80k miles. Thanks for any advise and great video.
The dripping at the end is scary. Newer cars & all their electronics need so much more. I think my DIY-ness will fork up the extra money to have this service done to our All track.
I put my car on 4 jack stands in my slanted ass driveway and engine swapped it but if I had a lift and a garage it would've been so much easier anything is possible if you believe in yourself hard enough haha
i've been looking everywhere for a tutorial on the mk7.5 golf R 7sp dq381 trans. The filter looks different when comparing to the 6sp. Also, the book says to change it at 80k miles
I also noted on mine that the filter housing was on its side with the "nut" on the housing to loosen it facing aft - visible/accessible from under the car via a tunnel beside the exhaust and prop shaft - all seen when I had the car up in the air at a friends shop... It'd be nice to confirm that my hopes for an easy fluid change are true with a tutorial...
@@Summ0ns Hi Eric, Hi @dorkultra, Warning, for the DQ381 Golf R (which I own) that IS NOT THE SAME PROCEDURE. Filter is orientated differently, you are correct. And there is a temperature protection panel, around the filter. You can unscrew the filter, beware of the oil that will go everywhere, and put a lot of clothes to protect it, to avoid too uch cleaning. the rest of the procedure (temperature etc...) is exactly the same, except a very very critical point. The level must be done (!) with the overfill plug turned 2 turns of the maximum position. I mean, you thread the bold in, and remove it from 2 turns. After oil is not flowing anymore, you bolt in at 3Nm, and that it. Put the final plug. There is also a bolt for the mecatronic. Refer to that video, warning, the 2 turns are not done, that two turns on the overfill bolt is only made for the 7.5 Golf R DQ 381 (!) : ruclips.net/video/RaG_63C5ufY/видео.html Do not make it wrong, for 7$ you can log you in on Erwin for 1 hour with right to print, it is the official portal from VW for dealer, but it is opened to anyone. You can create an account. And you can print the right procedure. Let me know if I can help erwin.volkswagen.de/erwin/showHome.do Too too many videos that are not correct for the DSG... Good luck
@@polo16v191 thank you for the info and the link! I am at ~47500km, so still a few weeks before I plan to do the fluid change. QuickJacks are on the way, parts and fluids soon. Cheers!
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www.shopdap.com/nextgen-obdeleven-ios-android-vw-audi-scantool.html
I am in Houston and have a VW Polo 2014, is this pump required to do the DSG service DIY
long shot but do you know if the 1.6L TDI MK7 (2016) needs a DSG service? A few shops I've called said VW doesn't recommend it as it's a "lifetime fluid"
Get four jackstands and a jack. Problem solved...
it's also worth mentioning that once you reinstall the battery and turn the car on every single light in the dash will be on. turning the steering wheel full lock left and full lock right is a warning light reset for when the battery in disconnected and reconnected.
So after you put the battery in you just turn the steering wheel left and right then should be fine?
@@MohammedAli-nh5sl yeah, lock to lock. Allows the ECU to reset and clears all the warning lights
you could use a "car memory saver" which is an OBD connector that you can plug it in beneath the steering wheel which has a small battery that has enough voltage and current to keep your car's computer memory alive while you take out the car battery.
Heck yeah I love when I run into random super helpful info in a comment section. It’s like overhearing something really cool in a public place. Thanks yo
only once I had a problem with the esp warning light after battery was disconnected it cleared itself after I reversed out of the garage, my car is an audi c6
I used this today to do the DSG. It wasn't hard at all. This guide was spot on for my 2017 A3. The only surprise was 20 minutes to get the trans temp up high enough. Other than that and a monster thick and huge aluminum belly pan that had 10 13mm bolts, 7 T25 and 5 T30 screws, it made a huge difference in trans performance. I waited to 45K miles, but should have done it 15K miles ago. Thanks!
VW Sales Consultant here. I cringed so hard when that advisor asked if the Alltrack was 2WD or AWD.
Appointment Coordinator or BDC probably
I thougt 4motion was AWD.
Hey, can you please escalate these situations to the higher ups? If you can? Because these things are really out of hand. They are asking gigantic prices for simple repairs and often don't know what they are doing. It gives VW's a bad name as "being unreliable", when really it is the maintenance at these dealerships and their bad service!
Thanks for owning up to it man, appreciate it.
Well.. what does it mean?
Most non-German manufacturers use simple terms like “All Wheel Drive” or “Rear Wheel Drive” or “Automatic Transmission” rather than ambiguous and dumb terms like “Quattro”, “Tiptronic”, and “4Motion”.
@@Bartonovich52
First of all, many non-European manufacturers trademark their proprietary AWD systems and designs, not all of which have "AWD" in their names: Honda / Acura (SH-AWD), Subaru (Symmetrical AWD), Mitsubishi (S-AWC), Ford (Intelligent AWD), Toyota / Lexus (Dynamic Torque Control / All-Trac), Chevrolet (Sport Control), Hyundai (HTRAC). You sound very dumb thinking there is no value in building a reputation with trademarking. You also sound really stupid thinking it's just German manufacturers that do this. As pointed out above, other non-German manufacturers do it too, some with ambiguous nomenclature as well.
Same applies to "Tiptronic," which merely represents a torque converter automatic transmission that allows you to manually choose gears. It's no different than Chevy's TAPshift, Hyundai's H-Matic, Subaru's SportShift, Kia's Sportmatic, Nissan's Xtronic, etc etc.
Secondly, the Alltrack only comes equipped with 4Motion. There is no option for FWD models. The service advisor should know without a doubt that an Alltrack is an AWD vehicle and shouldn't ask a stupid question.
The Golf Sportwagen, Alltrack's sister model, does have a standard FWD system but it is paired with an AISIN 8-speed torque converter and wouldn't need a DSG service. The GSWs with the AWD option are equipped with DSGs.
So you should just quit now and stop talking. You're going to make a bigger fool of yourself.
When I was a vw tech we were taught to have it operating temp, then lift then pull plug and insert let it drain. Then fill til it backfed into the filler tube then start the vehicle and put more in incase it needs it. Then we pull the tool and let it drain a little because that insert is for the full level. Anything over that while running is overfill
Pssst...you are right...(They don't know what they are doing...)
I thought that actually looked relatively easy until I remembered I don't have a garage with a car lift in it.
It is a pain to put a car on stands but worth the savings and the satisfaction of having done it yourself.
and the software to accommodate the updates .....lol.
thanks you're too kind. I have a 2018 Golf 7.5 GTD .
@@TurboCarSlut QuickJack is $1500 Some indy pro garages make do with floor jacks and jack stands.
@@erictrinklein4408 Yeah it's definitely always a little 20-30 mins pain but hey I can afford cars I couldn't DIYing
You guys (along with our friend, the Humble Mechanic) have the best VAG DIY videos and info ever. They have been invaluable to me and my '01 GTI VR6 and '06 A3 2.0T FSI. Many thanks!
Yes thank you guys!
Filling from the filter is slowest but cheapest by far..we all love that..
Not if the level wasn't correct in the first place...not at all.
love the "I don't know why this is so dirty" bits and "its dead cause nathan f'in left the head lights on"
Pure frustration! Love it! 🤣
I don’t even have a DSG this was still fun to watch.
Ed Mathews Be happy if u don't have
I wish I didn't have it...
@@miloslogic didn't or do? Or did you buy a dsg vehicle?
@@velysean7031 I do have it, but I wish I didn't.
@@miloslogic why's that?
Thank-you so much! Just bought a 2013 TT for my daughter and have a lot to learn on the maintenance (first Audi). Now we can do this service ourselves with confidence.
If only daddy would spoil me and buy me things so I have no clue how to fare in the real world!
@@BrockettRocket01irl the next guys are gonna do it for her, isnt that the real world.
I did this with a jack, stands and my obdeleven scan tool to check temps, very easy to do on the road. Just ordered 6 bottles and a pipe to gravity fill from the bottom, replaced gearbox filter by taking out the battery and tray, total job time 1hour? Waiting for the car to warm up was the longest part 😩
Thanks for the video, was the reason I did it.
What kit and pipe did you order?
@@justinmagness7497 Original Zf Transmission Filter + 6L DSG 6-Gang for VAG DQ250 Incl. Hose
Looks like it's gone up by a few quid
How long took car to warm up?
A note on filling via the filter housing. I found if you attach a rubber hose the same diameter as the filter hole and put the funnel into that so it's sealed, it filled very quickly. And much cheaper than the specialist fill tools. It seems this is very expensive in the US. When I first got a DSG car I got some quotes in the UK. And the standard price at a VW or Skoda garage was around £170-180 (approx $230). I still did it myself and saved money.
long shot but do you know if the 1.6L TDI MK7 (2016) needs a DSG service? A few shops I've called said VW doesn't recommend it as it's a "lifetime fluid"
@@iamdmc they call it lifetime, but its better to change it every 60k km
@ I still have warranty on it, and am probably selling the car in 6 months with 40K miles on it. Have an email from the dealer saying it's a lifetime fluid with no change so if ever I need to make a warranty claim it seems clear cut that they have to conduct any and all repairs (with 0 excess/deductible to me)
I literally just did the DSG service on my 13 Passat TDI today. It took me longer to prep my garage (clean and clear level floor space) and put the car on jack-stands than to do the procedure. The cost to purchase a complete service kit came to a little over 500 bucks. Mind you, that was fuel, oil and trans filter, cabin and air filter along with the motor oil and trans fluid. The transmission fluid pump also! Thanks to Deutsche Auto Parts, ID Parts and Ross-Tech for all the valuable supplies and DIY videos that make a shade-tree DIY successful!
You made my day about all the dirt... after watching this stranded today with a broken DSG 7 😢
Something crucial missed in this procedure: there is an initial fill, you must run the transmission "through the gears" by placing it in reverse, neutral, and drive for approximately 10 seconds each, and then check the level. I recommend overfilling slightly on the initial fiill. Then, once it reaches 35ish degrees, continue with an aditional fill or cap off if you managed to get enough in there initially.
Otherwise, the guy is right. If you want to do the work yourself it's technically feasible but you'll need a scan tool to measure temperature, the necessary tools to remove your battery, airbox, filter housing, drain plug(s), and a to pump the fluid in, and you'll have to deal with quite the mess if you don't have a hoist. Also, be careful. These transmissions are sensitive and finicky. Make sure that level is correct and you're using the appropriate gear oil.
Serious question: is the crucial missed procedure per your opinion or per Volkswagen? What you refer to I know is relevant to the older planetary auto gear boxes, just don’t think it applies to the DSG. I could be wrong.
@steve macqueen its on the instructions on odis
Not really sure it applies to DSGs either, DSGs don't work on the same principles as torque converter ones like Tiptronics, as far as I remember DSGs use hydraulics to engage the clutches/lubrication, and a mechatronic system to select the diferent gears, so no driving through gears may be required, nothing wrong on doing it though.. tiptronics are different as they use the typical valve body that diverts hydraulic pressure to select through gears and requires drive through gears so oil can flow and fill every line.. maybe I can be wrong but it could be the case why it's not "crucial" on this kind of transmissions
@El Michi Gameplays im sure it still tell u to do it, probably so it engages the clutches etc so the oil is flowing to get a proper oil level reading
@@KasamS man.. but that's not even how DSGs work.. oil flows on the wet clutches even if no gear is selected... dry clutches don't even have oil on them, and to top that, clutches are not engaged when you select D or R on DSGs, they only engage when vehicle starts to move, so in order to make them engage, vehicle would require to be driven and not "put on gear"... could you please share the VW service manual requiring that?
You didn’t cycle the gears before opening the drain plug after refill?
Is this mandatory? And how and when should be done. Can you just run the gears up in the lift?
I take the filter out first let the dirty oil run down , And then drain the DSG.
We do the same method as you described in the dealer shop.
For sure, Because he did it after, He's got a filter full of dirty DSG oil still in there
Would be a good idea. I used to have an apprentice who used to do it that way on Mercedes actros lorrys until I scalded him. There's actually over 6 litres of oil in the filter housing of those engines that's more than most car engines take. I'd actually like to know how much oil is held in a dsg filter housing some 1 please tell me.
@@Tobberobbe97 So I bought 2011 vw jetta tdi with 117,000 miles and car rocked when putting it into park sometimes and slow to go into reverse and back to drive sometimes but not bad. It’s at 195,000 miles and haven’t changed the transmission fluid once. Should I do it or will it be screwed since it hasn’t been done in forever? Thanks for any input!
@@hardcore4476 probably wouldn't hurt to change it, it won't make it worse than it is.
DSG oil change interval is 60,000km.
I don't recommend filling from top by adding what came out. If the fluid level was low, or if the fluid is at a different temperature, the level will very. Filling from the top isn't an issue if overfilled and checked at temp. Just my $0.02
I can only fill from the top because i don’t have the tool to pump. If the amount is 5 liters, shouldn’t that be fine to put from the top?
I drained mine after a professional dsg service 5.2 litres drained out, 5 litres from the top easiest and no mess way
@@moonyob that seems odd right? How did you get 5.2 if it only calls for 5 then some being drained while car is on?
@@MysteryScienceGamingApparently, quite a lot of professional shops do not do the proper level-setting method that VW calls for. They just put in fluid and ship it.
This is a really great straight up clip covering all the aspects of a self service..great you covered the shop prices..
In case this helps anyone I just had an easy time top filling with the shopdap kit. You can just stick the other end of the clear tubing in the kit into the hole where the fluid filter sits, and then open the valve on the other end of the tubing that screws onto the fluid bottles. After the first inch or so drains out the bottle while you're holding it up, poke a hole (I used a drill) in the top corner of the bottle to let air replace the fluid going out of the bottle and the entire bottle will flow into the transmission in like 1 minute each. It is very slow if you don't poke that hole, just like trying to pour out a can of chicken broth or juice you only poked one hole in and not two. I'm assuming this would make gravity filling via bottom fill method much faster as well if you go that route.
I also put the fluid bottles in the sun for a bit to get the fluid nice and hot so it flowed faster when I filled. It was about 43 degree C when I checked with obdeleven, perfect.
You can use a $5 pump that screws onto the fluid bottles instead of the expensive pump in the video. It was my understanding that you should manually shift the car through the gears (with foot on the brake) while setting the level.
That only applies to tiptronic gearbox.
What 5$ pump is it?
@@Serxne_ Its the same with all automatics (even trough dsg is technically not an automatic, but you are supposed to go trough all the gears.)
do you have a link for the pump?
The top fill is not dreadfully slow. I have seen a video somewhere where he shows you how long it takes. It is about a minute or 2 per liter. If you like doing it from below or you don't want to wait (maybe you had plans or other things you wanted to do). I would still recommend checking the fluid the proper way regardless of which one you do. It is messy but that is going to be better than a ruined transmission! I don't know anyone who likes transmission problems except for people who get paid to replace them. I don't own a DSG but I do like Liqui Moly oils. You can't go wrong with them as long as you choose the right one for your need. I don't get any money from them what so ever to say nice things, they just make good stuff! The only bad thing about it is if you like to buy your oil from Walmart (of all places) you won't find it on their shelves! I know I never did!
Just got mine done yesterday for $495 in Cincinnati OH. In Kentucky, my local dealer asked for a whopping $700 for DSG! My local dealership will never get a dollar from me again! 😄
currently looking around here in Cincinnati too 😂
was that kerry vw? I take mine to Dubwerx in Cincinnati. one of only places i trust to take my VW.
@@admsoccer just had this done at Dubwerx like 2 weeks ago. Definitely going back to them.
Thanks for the video, took me 15 min to service the DSG in my 2006 VW TDI. I bought the pump from you a year or so ago and just now got around to doing it now. The pump helps tremendously and i'd suggest to anyone to get or borrow a pump.
KS Tools offers a vw dsg filter tool, its like a box end crows foot. Enables you to change filter by just removing the air intake hose. A tool worth buying if you are planing to do more then 1DSG service. And for a price comperison DSG service costs 470 USD in Sweden.
you taking the time to call each shop for prices made me extremely motivated to just do the labor my damn self ! thank you very much sir.
I found the top fill method easier and less messy, with a little prep work. The hole for the filter drain is 12 mm in diameter. You can make an oil pump from a cheap garden sprayer, and I filed down the plastic nozzle to exactly push into the filter hole. Replaced the tubing including the internal tube with 6mm ID clear vinyl tubing for maximum flow and least retention of oil. Seal the tube where it passes through the container with a coupe of o-rings. Fill the container with oil, pump it up and walk away. I got all 6L in for the overfill stage! Used about 4.7L after level set procedure.
I paid $275 for my DSG service on my VW Golf wagon DSG.... Crazy prices you guys got quoted...
Absolutely the best how to on this procedure!! Plus pretty good editing to make it more enjoyable to watch.
The price has gone up since 5 years ago (just like everything else) I had an independent shop quote $655 and a dealer that quoted $550 but no filter change...Looks like I'll be doing this myself. Great Video.
My local mechanic VW/AUDI certified does it for $60 plus another $60 for Febi Dsg Fluid/filter, ROWE (Made in Germany) is good too and around same price, gets the job done for $120. Have done it myself in the past doing the top fill. Might try doing it again after watching this video.
How do they do it for $60 labour? There's a lot of time spent removing the intake manifold, battery and tray just to get to the filter. And then to reverse all those steps out. Surely that's more than $60 in labour costs for such a job?
@@tempestv8 no need to remove intake manifold.
I just replace the DSG fluid of my Audi S3 8V today, by following this video, thanks for the video and please keep it up!
Liquimoly fluid works fine but stinks to high heaven. I made the mistake of spilling a little bit and the smell took forever to go away. Great video 👍👍
DIY...first buy a £5000 hydraulic ramp...
You killed me 😂
Get one on tick lol
How to kill a good idea... 😄
lmao im dead
Lolol
When I was wrenching for a dealer in 2013-2014, me and the guys on my team used our vacuum powered fluid extractors to apply vacuum to the case breather vent and filled through filter on top. We had the DSG services down to 10 minutes, maybe 15 minutes on a slow day. The fluid extractors would only make a very slight vacuum within the transmission but it was enough to suck the fluid down the open filter cavity super quick. We gave 'em a good drain while hot and since fluid capacity was just about exactly the 5 bottles we got from parts, we never had issues with overfilling just dumping 5 bottles in. Worst case scenario, the DSG's maybe ended up with literally only a couple ounces of extra fluid. Having just ever so slight vacuum in the tranny was nice cause we could pour each bottle in at a nice steady rate. The trickiest and slowest part was carefully popping the cap off the breather vent to not break 'em...LOL. We also NEVER pulled drain plugs to do oil changes on TDI's and chain drive 2.0T's.
The guys on the two other teams mostly did things the hard way. Management never questioned us cause our way never caused any problems. We whipped out the "K" Services quick as sh!t and our team dealt with most all of the really bullsh!t warranty crap not to mention our team had little to no comeback issues either.
*VW cuts labor times*
oil service
vs.
system troubleshooting :
2 separate tracks but both high profits
👍
Not sure what you mean by breather 'cap'. Isn't the black tube with the filter box on the end of it the transmission vent, as he described? (Visible at ruclips.net/video/UjxAQsePR7Q/видео.html) Or is there another vent somewhere?
i was finally able to do it myself, took me making a trip to my dad's house for the drive on lift (jack and stands wasn't cutting it). pulled the plugs after driving getting to house while nice and warm. used your pump bought from ya, and it was very easy. measured what came out and put back in same. while was under it for the 1st time, found where leaking little oil, looks like part of the turbo area. what is a common factor? didn't have any problems of leaks or use until the EPC light came on and dealer ended up telling me had to replace motor which they did far as i am aware of.
I’ve seen other DIY’s where the tech starts the car and then shifts the vehicle from P to R to N to D into Sport mode and all the “manual gears” while the fluid is getting up to temp. Is that not necessary?
Not as per VW
Great - thank you. And thank you for all the great videos!
yes it is necessery!
How often does one have to do the DSG service?
@@jamas747 60k km
I bought a kit from you because of this video. I appreciate your help!!!
You guys should do a Intake carbon cleaning DIY!
On a mk5 plz
Few people would want to take that job on at home.
that's very involved, and it requires like 10 different socket sets and extensions, because VW.
Shouldn’t you run it through the gears before you drain the excess out?
Yup..they should...🤔
I always cycle the prnd 2 times.
Yes warm up transmission to operating temperature, I could be wrong.
Its not an automatic transmission 🤦♂️
@@mitcho2460 It's not but that is still how you are supposed to do it. 🤦♂️
You are awesome, thank you so much for helping the VW Audi community brother.
Any "memory loss" from removing the battery? I used to go through that in the '90's a lot when I was doing more work on my own vehicles. Nobody ever mentions it any more, so it may not be an issue now. There used to be tools which would, for lack of a more exacting term, "feed" 12v backwards through the 12v interior outlet, in an attempt to hold the ecu's memory.
I'm a DIY guy to the extent that the cost to get the job done by someone else isn't worth it. TBH, this one seems like it's worth the extra scratch to have someone else do it. But kudos on a fantastic video!
This procedure is a pain...lol
Even the dealers were only.charging $100+ parts. If you don't have a lift, that ain't bad at all.
Unless your local dealer wants 700. Stupid rich people area. (The old AMC Renault dealer next to the vw is now a Lamborghini dealership)
As always, your videos are informative and well created. Your camera is amazing, every shot is crisp and clear.
I love when dealers ask dumb questions. Had someone ask me what type of "gas" my TDI took.
LOL "Yeah, it runs on propane."
corn syrup
@@mkamal99 maple if u in canada
Lol maybe they try and dumb it down for the average walk-in client but they know darn well I would hope.
I can honestly say that's not a dumb question. I've seen customers do and say some dumb shit
When changing oil i always remove the filter first as it could trap some fluid in the system. Do you think it's worthwhile to do the same on the DGS service? Remove the transmission filter first?
I was thinking the same - if you replace the drain plug before removing the filter, the old oil from the filter housing has nowhere to drain.. Could there be a specific reason he did it in the order that he did?
Thank you for the detailed video! Only paid $50 doing the dsg service myself!
My daughter was like, " Dad, it's super easy, just pull this plug, then that plug and let it drain. Put back together and fill from the little hole where the filter goes." She obviously watched the wrong RUclips video. LOL. Took around 1.5hr to complete. She took the car for a test drive and came back grinning. Sport mode now shifts properly.
Thank you so much for this video. I will be doing two DSG services next week and this makes it seem so much easier.
Haha. This was very entertaining. As a Euro specialist here in Australia I have done the same, and can totally relate.
Great DIY, I bought your kit and it all went smooth. The hardest part was removing the battery tray lol.
Thanks for the support. We appreciate it very much!
One of the VW dealers here in San Antonio, TX where I bought my car wants about $400 + for the DSG service on my 2017 Alltrack. Too bad you guys aren't local. I'll take $229 all day long. I'll keep shopping around for an independent VW shop here in SA. Thanks for the video. Very informative.😁
I just had a DSG service on my Audi TT at the Audi dealer, here (The Netherlands, Europe) the prices are averywhere the same for standard maintenance stuff. I payed € 247,- ex VAT. Thats 275,- USD...😃
What about when you have to change the clutch in your DSG? Because to change the clutch in a manual diesel VW SEAT still is expensive.
One word of advise. When draining trans or dif etc. Always open the fill plug first. Reason being if you can't get it open you're not in a panick because you didn't drain the fluid with no method of getting it back in until you find a way to solve the fill plug issue first. Just a hard learned lesson. lol
That is great advice. In this instance the fill hole is the drain hole.
@@grad0n oh great. I love multi-purpose holes. 😉
I did my dsg service along with my 5k mile engine oil and filter change yesterday....at 46k miles i filled the transmission from the top.... it didnt take that long at all... maybe 35 mins.... and its more tidier than filling from below.... i measured exactly what came out and put the same amount back in....no wasted dsg oil. When i initially drained the box.... i probably had about 1/4 litre of overflow...before removing the black tube... and i ended up putting in 4.8L in the end.... so i know its not under filled...or overly over filled. 👍
I take it that 4.8 lts was the measured amount of oil on removal of the inner tube.
@@grahamwills8580 I actually put another 0.25L on top in the end.. since the car drained about 0.25L when I initially removed the first screw... I have about 0.5 more oil than the first interval... therefore I know it would drain again as I didn't restart the car warm.it up and drain off..... that was last year... the car has been fine...no problems at all...
@@grahamwills8580 to answer your question...the total amount of oil removed was about 0.25L + 4.55L (4.8L) ...i ended putting in 5.1L of fresh oil in the end....but did not redrain.
Thanks for that info and the fact of filling from the top makes life easier. @@rlakhay
@@grahamwills8580 start draining the GB oil first.... then (if you have the dsg)... once it's done.. make sure you press down the purge on the filter housing to allow air into the top...this will drain more GB oil at the bottom...if you open it without doing this you may well get a fair bit of spillage when you remove the filter housing and old filter...which is hard to clean up and get your hand down there... you have to remove the battery and battery cradle before doing this oil change btw...but you probably know that already.... get yourself a funnel and plastic clear piping for filling the new oil (I got these bits from machine& mart)... I used the genuine vw approved oil btw.
When you take out the oil, rebember to take out the oil filter first so the air that is pressed in the filter house will take out the last oil that was in that part because else you dont get all the dirty old oil out if you dont do that first.
shouldnt you have shifted through all the gears while coming up to temp?
No
@@mitcho2460 Actually yes, because that ensures that the transmission fluid/oil gets everywhere it is supposed to be.
If you dont do that, there are some areas of the transmission that get no fluid, and after you check the oil level by draining the exes oil out, and go drive it after that, the oil goes to where its supposed to be, and the oil level dips a bit.
Also this ensures that there is nothing running dry while you are checking the oil level.
This is the same with every transmission i know of.
This probably is not the end of the world, but there is no down side of doing it, and that is how you are supposed to do it.
@@mirovalimaki this guy 🤣🤣🤣
@@mitcho2460 So which official VW dealer you work for?
@@mirovalimaki yep, that is part of the job, i used to work for vw and can confirm this.
Way forward just top fill it through the filter housing. It takes a while but no special filling tools required.
Pumping 5 liters into a sealed unit builds pressure. Shouldn’t you remove the filter canister prior to pumping the fluids?
Its not sealed. It has a breather mounted on the top on the gearbox.
Warm up the oil a bit if using the gravity fill method. I leave it in the sauna for a bit and the filling takes like 10 minutes. First time didn't warm it up and took close to an hour.
At what millage is it recommended to do the DSG service? Every 40,000 miles is what I've heard.
The service interval here in Australia is 60,000 km which is just over 37,000 miles, so I'm sure 40k is fine.
Answer at VW in Norway is the same, 60.000 km. Originally it was 90.000 km
60K for the Switzerland :) so 37K miles approximately
I have yet to do mine but here are the steps Ive put together:
*Required tools*
Oil drain pan
Rags or paper towels
Torque wrench
14mm hex socket for drain plug
8 mm allen key for overflow tube
24 mm socket for filter housing
*Steps*
Warm up car so oil will drain freely
Put car on jack stands (NB car must be LEVEL)
Remove skid plate or sound shield from under car
Ensure transmission fluid < 50C to avoid scalding
Place plastic or cardboard on floor to catch splashes
Place drain pan under drain plug
Remove drain plug and drain
Remove overflow tube and leave to drain
Remove battery, battery holder, air intake
Clean around filter housing
Place rags around housing to catch oil spills
Loosen filter housing 7 turns and wait 30 seconds to drain
Remove filter housing slowly, let drip
Pop off filter & let drain 30 seconds before removing
Check O-ring is on the filter not still in filter housing
Suck out oil from filter housing
Clean drain plug & replace crush washer with new
Replace overflow tube, fingertight only (3 Nm)
Replace drain plug, fingertight only
Shake oil containers before pouring
Overfill gearbox with ~ 5.5 litres of oil from top with funnel in filter pipe
Change O-ring on filter housing & coat with oil
Check O-ring is in position in new filter & coat with oil
Put in new filter
Screw in filter housing & torque to 20 Nm
Replace air intake, battery housing and battery
Start car and monitor transmission oil temp (DSG Channel 19)
If temp over 40, stop and let cool further
When temp reaches 38C, remove drain plug
Let drain until a steady drip
Replace drain plug, torque to 45 Nm
Can you do it without scan tool?
@@Cosak11 Some people monitor the temperature of the gearbox from outside I think, with a radiation pyrometer. Oil Temperature is the only reason to use a scan tool I think.
Can you guys do a dsg relearn adaptation on obd eleven video?
Obd 11?
Try again
mitch b obd eleven is a tool that plugs into the obd2 port
OEM kit was $198 in NYC today; factory DSG service was quoted at $890 in Queens
Тебе нужно приехать в Россию и немного пожить у нас. Многому удивишься... Все эти работы у наших официалов стоят 28-30 тыс. рублей ( это около 280- 300 долларов) . И это с учётом всех ваших санкций и изоляции ......
You should take off the filter first to allow the housing to drain down. Now you got some old dirty oil mixed with the new.
You do regardless. The clutches and mechatronic still have old dirty oil in them when you change the fluid.
I'm due a dsg oil change on my 2014 Skoda Octavia Vrs .I don't have a scan tool but think about measuring the gear box casing temp when it gets to 40 degrees then check the levels .
Would love to see a DIY guide on how to do this on the tiptronic transmission for the Mk7!
Wow, which G mk7 came with tiptronic (guess you mean AISIN)? What engine it has? Was pretty sure g7 were only manual or DSG (dq200/dq250)
@@DenBozhok The Aisin box was mated to all FWD 1.8T's (both wagon and hatch) on the Mk7.
I did a top fill with Pentosin fluid. It took about 25-30 minutes.
Your channel and website are awesome. I've learned a lot from you guys and appreciate you taking the time to give details about service, tool and part options, and common sense advice. Thanks DAP.
Buying a mk7 tomorrow! I love your videos
DIY always sounds like a good idea until you realize you don't have a lift.
These videos are great. Very informative and helpful for someone who has the tools and the time. Im from Ontario Canada and I go to Mr. Transmission who does this service for under $300.00 Can. The parts alone are approx. $150.00
I really enjoy your movie from SOUTH KOREA. I am a big fan!!
I am working for VW .. according to vw you start the engine while the filling system is still pluged in (after you filled it for sure) then you remove the fillingsystem and the plug let it flow out untill its starts to drip then you put back the screw after that u go in to your car and go through all gears once after that your are done..
thats correct. I have done my 2008 passat2.0 td 6 clucth. But I wonder should I make the basic settings with VDCS group 63,62,67.(not sure which number comes first ) etc... after change dsg oil. My car took 5.4 liters. I filled 5.7 liters and after dripp 0.3 liters came out.
We most of the time use ODIS not VDCS anymore .. tho for a dsg oilchange we don't use it at all might be wrong but accouroding to VW we don't have to at all .. don't ask me why .. if we know its around 5l we fill 6l let it drip and you are good to go .. xD
For Mk7.5s - You DO NOT need to remove the Battery/Tray or the Air Box or Anything else.
You simply go through the Exhaust tunnel and the Filter is right there. So, anyone curious about that - now you know.
Do you need to remove anything?
Silly question, but couldnt you just replace the filter, and top fill with dsg fluid from the filter orifice?
I have seen some videos about the DSG also and some of them said when you reach above 35C you need to shift the transmission between R,N and D for 10 seconds for each. Is this necessary?
Yes!
Just did a DSG flush & filter today. Following this video. I dont beleive its mentioned clearly. Once you remove the second drain plug, and no other fluid is drainning out as seen at 9:22 . Put the the second drain plug in BEFORE you put your new fluid in the transmission. Hope this helps someone at least. Otherwise im greatfull to these guys for making this video. Thank you!
Well, he replaced the second drain plug before he put new fluid in.
The new filter.. did it just kind of sit on there or did it kinda "snap" on? I recently did my change and the new filter just kinda sat there whereas the oem filter I took off would "snap" on for lack of a better term. According to the documentation that came with the filter it was fine and compatible and I haven't had a problem since, I was just curious.
i did asked the audi dealer to do a dsg service for B8 S4 and they told me between 800-900$ in chicago 😁 and i did it myself
What about Audi A3 8P FSI 05-12 or 13? same process? Wasnt on your list.
3:55 - LMFAOO THIS MAN JUST HUNG UPPP
I'm going to do from now on..so I don't have to listen to the idiot service leach try to drain my wallet , blood, and trainy fluid.
Aftermarket fluids are "recommended" by the manufacturer but usually aren't actually approved for whatever specifications they're claiming to meet. There's a difference between approved and recommended.
just like how BMW oil caps say that BMW RECCOMENDS CASTROL
@@snoofayy6150 same with Audi/VW too
I want the dsc service on my two wheel drive alltrack..nice
Haha, freaking so called "service advisor"
The price he gave was just for the 2 wheels. Expect to pay double that but not be told until AFTER the work was completed
Thats nothing mate, i got an inline v6 4 cylinder with a front mount manifold delete, meth injected seat harnesses with a top flap enlargement case sensor upgrade, rear wheel drive modded to Quattro intake system
Always use OEM transmission fluid and filter! Going through the top is much easier. Especially on a Mk6, just disconnect the flex air intake.
Should have called Audi in Seattle. They quoted me $800 on an A3
Authorized Mike well that sounds like the markup from vw to audi
Now I see, each ring represents how many digits your repair bills will always be
I recently went from a MK7 GTI to an Audi A3 Quattro. Both 2017s. I had the dealer do a couple of oil changes on the GTI with tire rotation and it was always under $100. Same thing at the local Audi dealer was $245. Same exact parts and labor. The VW dealer has express service and you could walk in and be out in 30 minutes or so. Audi dealer needed a 2 week advance appointment and got finished at 6pm just as the service department was closing. They did wash and vacuum the car so I guess there’s that.
Glad I have a 6sp manual A3. Over here it's $1850 for S tronic transmission oil replacement. Yeah nah I'll keep my manual gearbox. Besides, it's more fun.
Volkswagon in San Diego quoted me at $850
How do you know if you have a DSG or non-DSG transmission? My daughters 2018 Beetle 2.0 S-trim owners manual has a whole section on DSG but also mentions not all cars have them. The maintenance schedule also mentions 6-speed DSG transmission fluid should be changed every 40K miles but has a section for non-DSG which states the trans fluid should be changed every 80k miles. Thanks for any advise and great video.
Google it
Holy sh!t !!! 495!! My local dealer charges 300
How often should the Bevel Box fluid be changed? Is it the same interval as the DSG?
Where them measure values for trans temp 35 to 45
Is there a special procedure for disconnecting and reconnecting the battery? thought the systems would be confused.
Wow, all I need is a professional workshop / garage with all the tools, then I can save some money on this :D
Start small... There's nothing worse than having expensive tools but you can't use them.
Easy to do on Jack stands and use a laser thermometer for the oil temp
makes sense that motul makes dsg fluid.. they are obviously known for motorcycle oil . most motorcycles use wet multi-plate clutch packs!
thanks captain. A oil company makes oil. Yes, the floor is made of floor.
Love to watch Transmission fluid service video for '17 tiguan automatic.
The dripping at the end is scary. Newer cars & all their electronics need so much more. I think my DIY-ness will fork up the extra money to have this service done to our All track.
If we all could lift our cars up at home we would all be diy car mechanics now :(
you can do pretty much everything a lift can on jack and stands
I put my car on 4 jack stands in my slanted ass driveway and engine swapped it
but if I had a lift and a garage it would've been so much easier
anything is possible if you believe in yourself hard enough haha
i've been looking everywhere for a tutorial on the mk7.5 golf R 7sp dq381 trans. The filter looks different when comparing to the 6sp. Also, the book says to change it at 80k miles
I also noted on mine that the filter housing was on its side with the "nut" on the housing to loosen it facing aft - visible/accessible from under the car via a tunnel beside the exhaust and prop shaft - all seen when I had the car up in the air at a friends shop... It'd be nice to confirm that my hopes for an easy fluid change are true with a tutorial...
@@Summ0ns Hi Eric, Hi @dorkultra,
Warning, for the DQ381 Golf R (which I own) that IS NOT THE SAME PROCEDURE.
Filter is orientated differently, you are correct. And there is a temperature protection panel, around the filter.
You can unscrew the filter, beware of the oil that will go everywhere, and put a lot of clothes to protect it, to avoid too uch cleaning.
the rest of the procedure (temperature etc...) is exactly the same, except a very very critical point. The level must be done (!) with the overfill plug turned 2 turns of the maximum position. I mean, you thread the bold in, and remove it from 2 turns. After oil is not flowing anymore, you bolt in at 3Nm, and that it. Put the final plug.
There is also a bolt for the mecatronic.
Refer to that video, warning, the 2 turns are not done, that two turns on the overfill bolt is only made for the 7.5 Golf R DQ 381 (!) : ruclips.net/video/RaG_63C5ufY/видео.html
Do not make it wrong, for 7$ you can log you in on Erwin for 1 hour with right to print, it is the official portal from VW for dealer, but it is opened to anyone. You can create an account. And you can print the right procedure. Let me know if I can help
erwin.volkswagen.de/erwin/showHome.do
Too too many videos that are not correct for the DSG... Good luck
@@polo16v191 thank you for the info and the link! I am at ~47500km, so still a few weeks before I plan to do the fluid change. QuickJacks are on the way, parts and fluids soon.
Cheers!
Can you relocate to California? Asking for a friend. :)
Great tutorial ! how many oil liters for GTI mk8 DQ381 ?