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    It’s not difficult to see why people would K-swap Miatas, Corollas, Datsuns and even older Hondas. A K-24 simply outperforms all the engines originally used in those cars. But the motor Honda stuffed in the S2000 is a different story. The F20C is a 2L, four cylinder inline four, famous for its 9000rpm redline and a motorbike-like kick when the VTEC comes on at around 6000RPM. So why would anyone want to K-swap an S2000? Our resident tuning guru and a recent K-convert Scott decided to find out...
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Комментарии • 358

  • @haltech
    @haltech  4 года назад +37

    Welcome back!
    We've seen plenty of K-swapped cars around and it’s not difficult to see why people would K-swap Miatas, Corollas, Datsuns and even older Hondas. A K-24 simply outperforms all the engines originally used in those cars. But the motor Honda stuffed in the S2000 is a different story. The F20C is a 2L, four cylinder inline four, famous for its 9000rpm redline and a motorbike-like kick when the VTEC comes on at around 6000RPM. So why would anyone want to K-swap an S2000? Our resident tuning guru and a recent K-convert Scott decided to find out...

    • @jayezy8768
      @jayezy8768 4 года назад +1

      @haltech Great video as usual. In your opinion, what would be the best choice to go boosted? k20A2 or k24/k20 head? What's the main difference when boosting these 2 applications?

    • @dazaspc
      @dazaspc 4 года назад +2

      May I suggest you Play your video with the auto subtitle in English for a laugh.

    • @Kyrazlan
      @Kyrazlan 4 года назад

      @@dazaspc gay swaps 😂

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 4 года назад

      K motors are good but, they don't have shit on a LS V8

    • @mdallapria
      @mdallapria 4 года назад +1

      Vídeo suggestion: what’s difference between k20 x sr20 x 4g63
      4g it’s currently faster 4 ciylinder engine in the world what makes this engine so special?

  • @kerrthomson4857
    @kerrthomson4857 4 года назад +125

    “Because how often are ya pinning it at 9k rpm?”
    Me: “Legit, all the time”

    • @NovaRedHead
      @NovaRedHead 4 года назад +6

      Do I have a pulse? Yeah, send it 😂

    • @Hellsslave666
      @Hellsslave666 4 года назад +20

      You are doing it right!!!
      If someone plans to drive their S2000 at 2-3k rpm then dont drive an s2000....

    • @kerrthomson4857
      @kerrthomson4857 4 года назад +1

      Hellsslave666 to get the best from it you have to drive it like it’s stolen

    • @taylorc2542
      @taylorc2542 4 года назад +7

      Yeah, a K series makes the car boring. The revs are essential to the experience.

    • @kerrthomson4857
      @kerrthomson4857 4 года назад

      ILUV2SK8 504 yes, yes I do

  • @jif.6821
    @jif.6821 4 года назад +122

    Can you imagine if Honda made a inline 6 cylinder based on the stretched K-24? Give the 2JZ and RB26 a run for their money.

    • @pswmetalmonkey
      @pswmetalmonkey 4 года назад +25

      The irony is they already have been giving them a run for the money by car lengths, and it makes 2J and RB fanbois nervous

    • @99Lezard99
      @99Lezard99 4 года назад +1

      well they made a c32b but problem is its super expensive and rare since its the engine of the og nsx. honda also made the j35. but ive got no idea if its any good. but both are also aluminium block engines so theyll probably not that great on holding large amounts of boost.

    • @pinytenis420
      @pinytenis420 4 года назад +3

      @@99Lezard99 j35 is decent but its all about the j32 if you want a v6 from hinda on boost but even then its relatively un supported most things will have to be fabbed manual gearboxs are rare and expensive. But the make great torque and sound great

    • @emanh4keem_san420
      @emanh4keem_san420 4 года назад +9

      2KZ

    • @kingprettie01
      @kingprettie01 4 года назад +2

      Wow was thinking the same, "what if they added 2 more cyl for a straight 6". Another what if, " building a 4ag engine into a 5 cyl, therefore a 2l 25v revving up to 11k. Mental

  • @KirkwoodImaging
    @KirkwoodImaging 4 года назад +53

    A tip: that nasty sound the top is making? After locking the latches, hit the top down button for a second and let it preload the bars. No more rattles, it’s great.

    • @liny2sd
      @liny2sd 4 года назад

      Thanks for the tip!

    • @1nvd
      @1nvd 4 года назад +1

      Won’t that stretch the top material

    • @darth420vader
      @darth420vader 2 года назад +1

      @@1nvd it does the opposite

  • @xpictos777
    @xpictos777 4 года назад +18

    Great episode Tuning Fork, can't believe you fit in it :) - 2007 S2000 owner here with a F20C (yes Australia retained the F20C and even the AP1 plates in the engine bay even though everyone calls it an "AP2"). I can definitely appreciate the K24 and they're so reliable even when boosted. You've potentially highlighted a good value option for that ridiculously rare situation where someone might need to replace an F20C. For now I'd be looking to keep my original engine with the car and potentially supercharge it. An F22C vs K24 on the dyno would be interesting, but we don't really see those in Australia. Thanks again for the Honda love!

    • @plmsdevelopments
      @plmsdevelopments 4 года назад +2

      Keep your head held high that the F20C still beats the K24/20 in specific power output by about 11% using the peak power figures quoted in the video :)
      73.5 kW/L v's 66.25 kW/L. I guess that shows how well the F20C flows...

    • @Hosz688
      @Hosz688 4 года назад +2

      Hard to compare numbers across different dynos, but I would expect the f22c to have similar numbers or slightly more peak hp than the k24/k20 frankenstein. Honda rated f20 and f22 with the same hp, but when compared on a dyno, the f22 consistently makes about 10 more hp.

    • @Jaredscott89
      @Jaredscott89 4 года назад +1

      @@plmsdevelopments Well no, its also a function of turning faster. But that budget K24 in the video car has heaps more in it if they were to want an equivalently worked motor.

    • @Jaredscott89
      @Jaredscott89 4 года назад +2

      @@Hosz688 A stock F22 would be about halfway between those two dyno lines. Won't make the same or more peak power.

  • @DashnCars
    @DashnCars 4 года назад +28

    The K is the new answer to everyone's question. I wish I could find a salvage S2000 to do a K swap too, I just don't have the heart to swap out an F20 or F22.(Nor the money 😄)

    • @JohnSmith-yr6je
      @JohnSmith-yr6je 4 года назад +9

      I wouldn’t either. F20c is such a special Motoe and is unique... so much tech in it.

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 4 года назад

      Throw it in a S-chassi or somethin :)

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial 4 года назад

      @@JohnSmith-yr6je what tech?

    • @bige7186
      @bige7186 4 года назад +4

      F20C started it all with its 9,000 redline I’m good I’ll pass on a k series maybe for a daily yes but not as my baby lol

    • @omarmelendez7811
      @omarmelendez7811 4 года назад

      Yeah but there comparing a k24 block to the stock F20. How much torque did a stock Acura RSX Type S have with the stock k20 block

  • @kodessa
    @kodessa 4 года назад +6

    These K-series focused videos is making me appreciate my grandpa spec/driven CU2.

  • @allyance8846
    @allyance8846 2 года назад +1

    0:41 that Accord tho.. One of my favorite Honda cars.

  • @niikon
    @niikon 4 года назад +18

    I remember his reaction to Moog's S2k back in the days, so much disgust and hate... Oh how the tables have turned :D
    Had mine for almost 4yrs now and I wouldn‘t trade it for anything else.

    • @igvtec
      @igvtec 4 года назад +5

      But that's like a lot of people with their first impression with Honda's, until they really get to know how good of a engine they produce then they see the light. 👍

  • @philspaghet
    @philspaghet 4 года назад +10

    Also worth noting you can make a K24 rev to 9000rpm and you can get 300whp NA. I'm a S2000 owner and I regret not K swapping when I blew my F20c

    • @quest8795
      @quest8795 4 года назад +2

      You *could* but the longer stroke means your piston speed is higher, so the reciprocating forces are higher and you're more likely to have a terminal failure. It's not especially likely, they're still good engines. But it would shorten the Engine's lifespan for certain

    • @kellsled
      @kellsled 4 года назад +1

      Not standard they won't, set of forged internals it will all day tho

  • @steveallen1340
    @steveallen1340 4 года назад +8

    I was fully expecting the K24 to make more power through most of the rev range but was surprised to see the peak is also higher.

  • @dandel351
    @dandel351 4 года назад +18

    On this week's episode Tuning Fork fits himself into a tennis shoe... I just wish Honda had built a 4 litre V8 with those K-Series heads on it now .. imagine that noise a V-tec V8 at 6500rpm..

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 4 года назад +1

      Nah Inline 6 mate :D A 3l variant with the K20 stroke and factory 8500rpm redline and a 3.6l variant with the K24 stroke, YUM

    • @iwanttobeamole
      @iwanttobeamole 4 года назад +1

      They did. Check out the MF408S. It was a massive failure because it made TOO MUCH power.

  • @guyofStorm
    @guyofStorm 3 года назад +2

    Everytime I drive the S2000 I live in the 6200 to 9200 band. The earlier car was stiffer, larger sway bars..as joe schmoe, winding the S2000 put me in an almost Walter Mitty like fantasy state..it had become my F1 car..the notes released from the exhaust took a back seat to no car..not Maserati, not the LFA, not any player I can think of. I've never spent a day in an S2000 and not been reminded of the experience the following day from a sore face brought on by the epic ally large grin I'd worn the entirely previous day. And unlike a day in the 930..I don't believe I ever broke the 100mph barrier:)

  • @kseriesdan9722
    @kseriesdan9722 4 года назад +10

    Best thing I ever I did. Ditched the d16y4 in my ek and placed the kseries. Totally different car

    • @HarryTwatter
      @HarryTwatter 4 года назад +12

      Lol yeah that's quite the step up

  • @jeffhines3788
    @jeffhines3788 3 года назад +1

    keep up the great stuff you ROCK thank you bro

  • @TURBOTRISTO
    @TURBOTRISTO 4 года назад +16

    Kswap the world!

  • @RahzAlGhul
    @RahzAlGhul 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for making this vid I always had this burning question

  • @iCozzh
    @iCozzh 4 года назад +14

    Ishould be picking up my s2000 this sunday icant wait

    • @isabelaranda130
      @isabelaranda130 4 года назад

      Congrats!

    • @balancemode4112
      @balancemode4112 4 года назад

      Enjoy😍😍

    • @quest8795
      @quest8795 4 года назад

      Congratulations, look after it :)

    •  4 года назад

      Make sure you Kswap it... I have a K20/k24 frank in mine.. Makes 280whp and 220tq.. Thing is a monster.. I do have cams, valvetrain and piston upgrade though.. Ported 4-Piston head and 90mmTB.. When it comes to drivability between a K24 and a F20/22, its not even close in my opinion.. The torque and low-mid range power is just such a joy. And its power you actually use all the time. I came to hate having to rev up to 6K all the time to feel power. Dont get me wrong, the K20 and F20 are fun motors, but in my opinion they just arent the best daily motors to enjoy. Unless you boost them of course lol.. Ill be bolting up a MercRacing 1900 soon. Hoping to make about 450whp

  • @matthewmohri9990
    @matthewmohri9990 4 года назад +2

    Haltech, I will say at the beginning thanks for doing this vid. I've never owned a K Series engine but I've always been a fan and quickly learned to respect Honda Engineering in all it's well deserved glory. Yet we are not going to talk about The S2K's problem differential. As Dustin Williams in his Track S2K has exposed that weakness. Yet not every car is perfect RB26DETT's Oil Pump? Exactly. Thank you for doing this and yes The K series is a better engine and for the simple fact it was designed after The F series and the people at Honda don't make an inferior next gen engine they build on the shoulders of the last one.
    No hate for The K series b/c you can't deny perfection. It is the best I4 in the history of engines. When you're a V8 or I6 F/I person and you see a K20/24 engine making between 250 to 320whp you and using all of it(not being some dyno queen), you can't help but sit back and pay respect for power and the perfection of the Motor. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Euro, and other Imports have nothing bad to say about The K Series or at this point B, H, and F that lead up to The K b/c you can't deny power/liter. What is said though "No tq and a small power band" If you're a Domestic person you know that can best solved with gearing and shorter R&P FD. Oh when I went from a U.S. R&P FD to a Euro 3.94 R&P FD in my VR6 Jetta it felt like it took all of the mods I had done to it(cams, head, Schrick VGI, etc)and woke them up to a level I never knew existed. Yet to get back onto The K series it's not just its engineering, it's the amount of N/A power you can get from them, it was as if Honda built an engine that can both be used by your every day family for normal use and at the same time the same engine can be modded for amazing power. The stock K20A2 series in The series is 200 crank hp and 220 crank hp from a JDM K20A which is not bad. I think(correct me if I am wrong)the stock K24 was around 205 to 210. I may be wrong on those exact numbers. You don't even have to swap heads and bottom ends to make great power but when you do it's even easier to make more. So this is why The K Series is King. 1st Engineered to perfection. 2nd Makes great Power. 3rd Out of the box it makes good power but nothing too wild for your everyday family car but is a 4 cylinder which makes for great gas mileage b/c mom and dad aren't spending their life a quarter mile at a time. LOL Well most mom's and dads.

  • @darius2640
    @darius2640 4 года назад +4

    scotty: how often do you rev to 9000 rpm?
    honda bros: all day everyday
    duh, what kinda question is that

  • @zTheBigFishz
    @zTheBigFishz 4 года назад +1

    My k swapped (JDM ITR) Fiat X1/9 is almost done...probably about a month or month and a half. With fluids but without the seats it weights 1885lbs. AC works as well.

  • @kensmechanicalaffair
    @kensmechanicalaffair 2 года назад

    What i love about the k24 is the fact that the company marketed it as a eco friendly engine, but someone had to know it was capable of running down supercars. That's fantastic.

  • @TheChannel1978
    @TheChannel1978 4 года назад +3

    Still not something you'd do unless you blew your F20C. It wouldn't be the legend it become had Honda shipped it with a Sedan engine, instead of a bespoke engine that revs to 9k at specific highest output. It's not just baller points, it's heritage. Anyhow, each to their own.

  • @z3dz
    @z3dz 4 года назад +3

    Im an owner of s2000 (with F20c ofc). But i can see your point. Daily driving the car with the k24 in it, will make it more 'alive' in the low-mid rpms, more suitable for short-distance roads , maybe close and low speed corners. The F20 needs some road to keep all gears close 9k and get all the power out. but the sound it makes after 8.500 rpms, unreplacable.
    Also, upgrating/servicing the k24, is easier and way cheaper.

    • @brunomanco7529
      @brunomanco7529 2 года назад +1

      A 4.7 final drive and a aem ems (plus 70mm header back exhaust) compensates for the lack of midrange torque

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Год назад

      @@brunomanco7529 those same modifications will also work on a K-swapped S2000, so you're back to the same gap.
      It's not a gain of 16 HP from the K-swap. That 16 HP is at the peak near redline. The real-world HP gain is 40+ HP *EVERYWHERE* except the last little bit up top. WAY more area under the curve, which is more important than peak (which again, the K has more at peak also).

    • @brunomanco7529
      @brunomanco7529 Год назад

      @@jsquared1013 i had a european ep3 type-r, a k20a2 with dc5 cams, with the usual boltons and a 5.33 final drive (shouldve went with the 5.45). So the f20c s2000 i have is a letdown engine wise. I still havent tracked it with the new lsd and 4.77 final drive (powerwise i have spoon snorkel and filter, 70mm decat and catback, aem ems), so hope the shorter final drive "increases" the torque feeling. I had 255/40 both in the ep3 and now in the s2000.

  • @quest8795
    @quest8795 4 года назад +3

    Frankly, a K series is the only swap that makes sense in an S2000. Anything else would be either increasing weight too much, reducing efficiency, or just be outright wrong.
    Anyone who tries to say that an LS swapped S2000 is a good thing needs *serious* therapy

  • @liddz434
    @liddz434 4 года назад +1

    Love this! Would love to see a similar look at 4g64/4g69/4g63 hybrids as it dying to have one built and swapped.

  • @fendel_
    @fendel_ 4 года назад +1

    Great video Scotty! Your knowledge and presentation is amazing and I have to agree that the K engine is great. As a side note, I definetly need a Haltech elite for my GC8 to replace my old Apexi PowerFC.

  • @THEPAULFOOT
    @THEPAULFOOT 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video dude was brilliant 😁

  • @justinranes3351
    @justinranes3351 4 года назад +5

    K is the Way

  • @pinytenis420
    @pinytenis420 4 года назад +12

    With the amount of k series produced,the reliabilty, the n/a tuning potential,the boost tuning potential, the ability to have in fwd,awd and rwd, the relatively small form factor, the aftermarket support, cheapness. There's no competition to the k series. Sr is exspensive. Tsi is over complicated and not powerful enough. 4g63 is basically evo only. Ej is a joke power wise. 2j is too big too exspensive. Rb same thing. Its its own league

    • @alitoroganan2442
      @alitoroganan2442 4 года назад

      lol ej engines as a whole is a joke but we'll have to wait for the fa24 id its a show

    • @radalj4533
      @radalj4533 4 года назад

      What about 4g69? 2.4 mivec

  • @ArtVandelayOfficial
    @ArtVandelayOfficial 4 года назад +12

    Ok this s2k is perfect, subtle mods without stupid big wings and stance

  • @MartinObviously
    @MartinObviously 4 года назад +28

    Because Honda swaps are always oK 😄

    • @iNegroTv
      @iNegroTv 4 года назад

      @FukAzz RS I'd be curious to see someone swap a new RS with a K, and retain the AWD

    • @kellsled
      @kellsled 4 года назад

      @@iNegroTv loads of awd swaps out there now but dunno about that actual chassis

  • @rmdhndwi
    @rmdhndwi 4 года назад +3

    1:25 it's hillarious when he confuse how to see in front of the car 😂

  • @martinrodger9565
    @martinrodger9565 4 года назад +3

    Can tell from the power graphs that the k24 will drive a ton better. Ran a F20 s2000 and the noise and pomp at near 9k was immense but it was a turd anywhere below 6k and the lack of torque made it feel a super heavy car for what it was.
    Enjoyed driving a little vvt mx5 far more than the s2000 as it “felt” twice the torque and much lighter in most situations (mx5 has nothing up top though, not denying the engineering in the Honda is far superior, even including a much more rigid chassis).

  • @yobbo8677
    @yobbo8677 4 года назад +1

    I 'm an Auto Sparkie and i've alaway Hated working on old hondas (80s-90s), they always are difficult to dismantle the dash and everything is weird about them, like a Radio that's held in from the back fo example, but I do like there engineering of the Engines, they seem to make some really reliable Engines.. 5 stars

  • @philspaghet
    @philspaghet 4 года назад +4

    As a S2000 owner, I gotta say, if I ever decide to make my S2000 a dedicated high power track car, a K swap would def make sense. Engines are WAY cheaper, F series engines are very expensive

    • @rabidlenny7221
      @rabidlenny7221 2 года назад

      Besides all the labor & stuff, is it true that you could sell your F-series for more money than you could buy a K-series for?

    • @philspaghet
      @philspaghet 2 года назад +1

      @@rabidlenny7221 Yep, F-series S2000 engines are getting pretty rare. But the F20/22 is still a better motorsport grade motor out of the box than the K24, K24 is just much cheaper and can be modified/tuned to go past a F20/22 especially NA

    • @rabidlenny7221
      @rabidlenny7221 2 года назад

      @@philspaghet yeah, mostly cause of the iVtec on the K20/24 right? F series only having Vtec.
      Yeah I got an 05 S2000. I fucked up lol. I always wanted an AP1 😢

    • @philspaghet
      @philspaghet 2 года назад +1

      @@rabidlenny7221 Nah you're fine, I kinda wish I got an AP2 sometimes because F22 motors can handle more boost and it's easier to setup tuning, flashpro and done, plus your chassis is more settled so it's better for tracking

    • @rabidlenny7221
      @rabidlenny7221 2 года назад

      @@philspaghet true, well the 04 & 05 still have the cable throttle so I think the tuning is still a bit difficult. I really think they fucked that engine up by dropping the rev limit to 8000 while the Vtec remains at 6000. I’m pretty sure if they put iron sleeves in the block it could handle 9000 no problem. From what I’ve read, the fact that the cylinder walls are aluminum, that there are no sleeves, is why it can’t rev to 9. It’ll wear the cylinders into ovals.
      Kinda want to get that science of speed stage 1 supercharger kit, but honestly would prefer the low end torque of the SOS turbo kit.
      I just don’t know how people get around that EPA pollution controlled vehicle law. So fuckin aggravating. Idk if when to get your car inspected you just sorta disassemble what you need, reflash the ECU back to stock, get inspected, then re-install? I think that’s what I would do. But idk if there are better ways.

  • @michaelnavarro1877
    @michaelnavarro1877 4 года назад

    Boosted boyz and PFI would be proud of you scotty!! Awesome review. 😊👍 I’d love to say tuning fork just for MCM 🤟

  • @hmong337
    @hmong337 4 года назад +1

    Will definitely kswap my sw20 mr2 one day!

  • @alexsaam2696
    @alexsaam2696 3 года назад +2

    Brilliant swap. As nice of a NA engine the f20c is, it sucks for boost with suck high compression

  • @andersjjensen
    @andersjjensen 4 года назад +1

    The only bad thing there is to say about the K series is.... that Honda never made an i6 version at 3.2L. Those would have killed everything in sight and been absolutely unobtainium by now :P

  • @pauladams1156
    @pauladams1156 4 года назад +3

    I used to hate Honda’s... this is a very interesting setup.

    • @MrIrish1
      @MrIrish1 4 года назад

      How could you hate a v-tech Honda you would have to be very ignorant. They're a lot of fun. I used to own a k20 integra dc2 awesome car

    • @juansolo1617
      @juansolo1617 4 года назад +7

      Honda set the world record for 0-60 time in 1.1 seconds, and they did it with a 4 cyl.
      The F20C (the original S2000 engine) held the world record for the most horsepower per liter of any NA engine costing under 200K USD.
      The Civic Type R is practically matching the Dodge Charger Hellcat's times on the Nurburgring (the most popular and dangerous track in the world). It's within seconds, and the Hellcat engine is a 6.2L V8.
      Honda is THE BEST car company ever to exist (IMO)

    • @tmmtmm
      @tmmtmm 4 года назад

      @@juansolo1617 You mean someone built a highly modified drag civic to do 1.1sec 0-60. Honda themselves didn't do anything. I daily a Honda but quite frankly their existing lineup (in Australia at least) is boring at bat shit. Honda have been devoid of innovation for years excepting the Type R, NSX and the Honda 'e' electric car that is coming. The K series was designed over 20 years ago and Honda have not given us much else to get excited about since.

  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch 4 года назад +14

    "I love this car it's lost none of its luxury".
    *Car whines like it has the loudest diff ever made*

  • @RealLeskot
    @RealLeskot 4 года назад +1

    Wow, i didn´t expect that big of a difference on the dyno...

  • @niallrampersad9124
    @niallrampersad9124 3 года назад +1

    Arguably the best 4 cyl na ever built

  • @yanuardhana6457
    @yanuardhana6457 4 года назад

    Bottom end stock k24, stock head with custom cam with common gas station fuel can make more than 200hp at wheel. With turbo, bounce stock easy to get 400hp at wheel, just in case this machine have huge population in the world. Nowdays kswap Miata more reasonable than othet swap, even stock engine with turbo. Thx Haltech for 2 episode of Kseries engine.

  • @themorawaboy
    @themorawaboy 4 года назад +2

    Here in Europe, the Honda guys (especially Civic guys) have a lot of haters. Predominantly amongs the VW guys (especially Golf guys). As soon as they see you somewhere on the streets, the various provocations are starting instantly. Can be quite annoying sometimes.

  • @MH-pe8wj
    @MH-pe8wj 4 года назад +4

    Got a subaru commercial. Had to laugh at that one!

    • @tmmtmm
      @tmmtmm 4 года назад

      Haltech: Moar torques
      Subaru: what is torque

    • @alitoroganan2442
      @alitoroganan2442 4 года назад

      what commercial, i didn't catch what he said

  • @ayowser01
    @ayowser01 Год назад +1

    This swap will become infinitely more popular as the platform ages and engines require replacement. What's the total build cost for this exact setup (k24/k20 head, bell-housing, ecu/tune, labor)?

  • @drift1jz
    @drift1jz 4 года назад +1

    Driving a KSWAP 20/24 Toyota MR2 Spyder gives :) for days and great fun out on track.

    • @haltech
      @haltech  4 года назад

      A mid-engine, K-swapped MR2 does indeed sound like fun!

  • @yatapote
    @yatapote 4 года назад +1

    👑 KingSwapped

  • @postmortemspasm
    @postmortemspasm 4 года назад +20

    You're australian mate, say MX-5. You gonna start sayin alOOminUM next?

  • @MECUXD
    @MECUXD 4 года назад +1

    How often are you hitting redline in an S2000? ALL THE TIME!
    I love the idea of more torque, had a 919 Hornet and loved the torque it offered. Probably why I chose the AP2/F22C over the F20 - about 50 HP more before VTEC crossover at 6k so you're not wanting for power looks with the F20. Rather than swap for more grunt, maybe a SC though.
    If you want torque, swap a diesel in lol.

  • @jayezy8768
    @jayezy8768 4 года назад

    @haltech Great video as usual. In your opinion, what would be the best choice to go boosted? k20A2 or k24/k20 head? What's the main difference when boosting these 2 applications?

  • @TheGreyTest
    @TheGreyTest 4 года назад

    I'm a Nissan guy through and through and I ain't picking on anyone, I'm just in it for the love of the cars. ✌🏻

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 4 года назад +1

      Not a Nissan guy... But there is no denying that an angry RB sound eargasmic!

    • @TheGreyTest
      @TheGreyTest 4 года назад

      Anders Juel Jensen I wholeheartedly agree with that statement!! I have an RB in my car, I just wish I was well enough to finish the work on it that I had planned.

  • @jitterrypokery1526
    @jitterrypokery1526 4 года назад

    Mans looks huge in the s2k

  • @makethanks215
    @makethanks215 4 года назад +4

    How the hell did you fit in that car?

  • @dannyDC2
    @dannyDC2 4 года назад

    Yes Mr Fork!

  • @KarlSchumacher
    @KarlSchumacher 4 года назад

    I absolutely dont agree with him saying that you might make money by selling your F20c and replacing it with a K24 (at 3:52). Absolute bollocks. For starters, the most expensive item is the K swap kit by Ballade sports at usd 3k. Then add to that another USD5k for the K24 engine, K20 head, the obligatory gaskets, aftermarket ecu and labour costs + 2K for the ryewire. That leaves you with a bog standard engine doing less power than the F20c for the price of USD 10k - thats far more than the price of a decent second hand F20c. For me, the loss of power alone is a big no no. So what do you do? Would you spend 10k for an engine with inferior power output or do you dig even deeper into your pocket to get more power, once the engine is open? I myself am in the middle of such project and found myself spending another 4.5k to get more power...camshafts, piston, rods, bearings, valve springs, retainers, intake/exhaust valves, head studs, fluid damper, throttle body, baffle pan, pumps..bla bla...so no, this is one hell of an expensive project which I wouldnt have gone for. The only reason I am doing it is because the F20c is so difficult and expensive to repair, and being a track junkie, I am done with breaking bearings, rods and yes a crankshaft too :(

  • @youridv
    @youridv 4 года назад +1

    The peak power the F20 is making at 180 kmph is available between 130 and 170 kmph on the K swap car. That's insane! The K swap car is definitely superior in my humble opinion. It's sad to see a sports car loose some of it's rpm, but given it's not much and actually gains power throughout the entire rev range it's fine by me
    About the hate and competition part. The K24/20 doesn't have any competition in the 4 cylinder market. There aren't any other NA fourbangers to my knowledge that have the same power and torque as the K24

  • @g_wizard9866
    @g_wizard9866 4 года назад

    Great and informative as per usual, Thanks Scotty...but tell us...What has the Marketing Dept. done with Dave?

    • @haltech
      @haltech  4 года назад

      Shhh.... it's a secret...

  • @michaelbeattie6953
    @michaelbeattie6953 4 года назад +2

    I subscribe to this channel to watch big boi Scotty drive around in tiny cars.

  • @wing0291
    @wing0291 4 года назад +6

    I love my 2005 tsx bc it has the motor every one wants and is a sleeper lol bc is a supercharger automatic semi manual and people face are priceless wen I beat them I know I am not the fastest but I built my baby to have fun and looking good and enjoy the ride

    • @Rekt-M8-v4
      @Rekt-M8-v4 4 года назад

      I recently sold my Acura TSX, and i can say its the best car i have ever driven, everyone envies that k24a2 in it since it is the best k series motor ever made. Its also THE best looking sports sedan Acura/Honda has ever made, it is simply gorgeous. It handles amazingly well with double wishbone suspension used for many race cars. The engine itself is super powerful and the car is super fun to drive. The Acura TSX is the MOST UNDERATED Acura/Honda ever made, it destroys civic, accords, integras, with its amazingly rigid chassis and superior motor. People need to stop stealing the engines from them and actually build those cars themselves as it is an amazing car. Way better built car with Luxurious leather and build quality. The automatics really are not bad either the sportshift is surprisingly fun to drive and mechanical feeling. I kinda regret selling the car

    • @alexsanchez1620
      @alexsanchez1620 4 года назад +1

      Semi manual?

    • @NathanaelNaused
      @NathanaelNaused 4 года назад +1

      Semi manual. The term automatic people use to make themselves sound better

  • @charles1379
    @charles1379 4 года назад

    Is the installed towing ring at the front a standard feature, very handy, no doubt!

  • @christopherpauley8174
    @christopherpauley8174 4 года назад +3

    I'd like to see the f22c on that side by side graph. It's got to fall somewhere right in the middle. With s2ks appreciating in value the way they are right now I could never see swapping the engine just for fun or selling a good f series engine. A low miles car went for over 50 grand at auction this week. Also if you're out for a forced induction path there isn't much point in this swap either. But if you've blown your f series and want a better replacement (and your ready to toss all sell value) then yeah the k is a good option.

    • @RealLeskot
      @RealLeskot 4 года назад +1

      K24 can hold boost as good as f series. They can hold up to 400whp on stock bottom end, where even if F could hold more, it would be pushing it´s limits.
      I feel like the biggest thing going for K series is the NA game. They can push over 400hp NA which is ridiculous.

    • @christopherpauley8174
      @christopherpauley8174 4 года назад +1

      @@RealLeskot I've never seen a 400hp na k24 ? Most of the na builds I've seen land in the high 200s. Gears and gas just did one actually. Even if those numbers were possible I'd imagine you're talking so custom everything it's going to cost 4x what a simple SC or turbo setup would cost.

    • @brianjohnson5553
      @brianjohnson5553 4 года назад

      My f22c got 600whp on stock block going on 12k miles lol

    • @TheChannel1978
      @TheChannel1978 4 года назад

      k = i blew my f20c and didn't have cash to buy another. i'm sure the resale will go really well

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Год назад

      Most of the high auction cars are very low mileage and in showroom or nearly showroom condition. Cars with normal mileage in good condition are still somewhat reasonable, although they too are still going up.

  • @dboy5273
    @dboy5273 4 года назад +1

    just wondering what sump setup it has

  • @Br04d51d3
    @Br04d51d3 4 года назад +1

    RIP K24 prices in the AU =D
    If MCM do one then we're all toast...

    • @igvtec
      @igvtec 4 года назад +1

      Plenty of Accord Euros still in Australia, that is our most common k24 the k24a3.👍

  • @modality14
    @modality14 4 года назад

    Just an observation the k car has an intake header and exhaust. Was the comparison car bone stock with just an ecu or did it have anything else done to it?

  • @averageboy14
    @averageboy14 4 года назад

    Video on BOOSTED K-SERIES please!

  • @AustinPerdue
    @AustinPerdue 4 года назад

    You guys should drive one of the K swapped Insights next. Wrong wheel drive of course, but weighs 1000lbs less (or more) than an S2K.

  • @TheZooness
    @TheZooness 4 года назад +3

    Did I miss something? You compared a 2.0 vs 2.4 and completely over looked the f22c of an ap2. That's like 2jz gs
    Vs 1jz, rb26 vs rb25, or even the ej20 vs ej22. Seems like the outcome was already predetermined and bias. If you are going to put dynos against each other at least have them be stock vs stock, no mods no tune.

    • @Jenkzyx
      @Jenkzyx 4 года назад +1

      Stock v stock is fair but no tune isn’t. The k series is massively held back on the oem Honda map. Also it’s a price thing F20c sell and with that cash you’d gain more going k series it’s a no brained

    • @alexsanchez1620
      @alexsanchez1620 4 года назад +2

      to be fair the f22 is also the same block as the f20 just stroked differently

  • @sepg5084
    @sepg5084 4 года назад

    i wish honda sold k-series block, crank, and head package. that way people can add their own pistons, rods, cams, and valves.

  • @whatsreallygoingon253
    @whatsreallygoingon253 4 года назад

    I cant help but chuckle every time i hear a 4 cylinder refered to as a big block 😆

  • @dennis120688
    @dennis120688 4 года назад

    8:28 VTEC just kicked in yo!

  • @tomr3319
    @tomr3319 6 месяцев назад

    would like to see the US/CAD version F22c against the K24

  • @5thgearouttahere
    @5thgearouttahere 4 года назад +1

    Fair dinkum that mid-range torque, it really is "big block"

  • @frozenpete788
    @frozenpete788 4 года назад +2

    I wouldn't mind losing 1k rpm of "usable" rev range for that much power and torque lower. The stock f20c isn't gutless down low but if you are cruising on a higher gear chillin, and you want to pass or you get on a big grade, it really lacks grunt sometimes. It's funny to downshift 2 gears and Rev de sh*t out of that engine, but when cruising you don't always want to make it scream. Or when the engine is cold too

  • @bobfrankfurt9449
    @bobfrankfurt9449 4 года назад

    What could Haltech do to my 2015 civic Si (K24Z7) compared to my Hondata tuned by Vitviper?

  • @acura1815
    @acura1815 4 года назад

    hey scotty what haltech would you recommend for an Integra Type R dc2 ?

  • @tibi1687
    @tibi1687 4 года назад +1

    from an S2000 to a K2400 in just one swap:)))

  • @nileisthebestband
    @nileisthebestband 4 года назад +3

    @3:23 keeps making my siri pop up

  • @don94pgt
    @don94pgt 4 года назад

    K motors are great but i personally would keep the f series.....you cant beat the sound the s2k makes.

  • @ftovr2957
    @ftovr2957 4 года назад

    What Australian delivered cars have the desirable K20 head and not the economy version that's only rated for like 118kw?

  • @felipesilvausa
    @felipesilvausa 4 года назад +1

    Hello how did put the steering wheel on the passenger side?

    • @haltech
      @haltech  4 года назад

      We didn't. We just shot the entire video in a mirror image mode.

  • @snp4dx
    @snp4dx 4 года назад +2

    I own a K24a2 swapped Miata.
    Long story short, if it's within your means, do the swap. There isn't anything like it.

    • @quest8795
      @quest8795 4 года назад

      Good power, lightweight, high specific output... What's not to like?

  • @grecoconduris6716
    @grecoconduris6716 4 года назад +5

    I wonder what Al (Turbo Yoda) thinks of the K?
    But definitely want an MX-5 with a K swap.

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 4 года назад

      Why not LS swap?

    • @masonaldenhoven5520
      @masonaldenhoven5520 4 года назад +1

      @@Turshin You what mate?

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 4 года назад +3

      @@Turshin Because the LS is heavy AF. The entire point of an MX-5 is that it is light and nimble. Turning it into a miniature corvette seems to have very little appeal to people outside the US.

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 4 года назад +1

      @@andersjjensen LS 1 is all aluminum and actually lighter than a b18

    • @chasetryon3870
      @chasetryon3870 4 года назад +1

      @@andersjjensen I'm a Honda guy and even I can tell you you're just wrong. The aluminum LS1/LS2 engines are only maybe 50-100lbs heavier than a miata engine after accounting for engine, transmission and differential weight increase

  • @Keys.Bradley.Racing
    @Keys.Bradley.Racing 4 года назад

    Did the k24 still have the stock oil pump/balancer?

  • @velez910
    @velez910 4 года назад

    straight cut gears or solid mounts in the rear?

  • @ze_german2921
    @ze_german2921 3 года назад +1

    When i had my S2000, I stroked it with a K24 factory crank, my butt dyno estimated 300hp

    • @haltech
      @haltech  3 года назад +1

      Butt Dyno - the often overlooked yet one of the most accurate ways of horsepower estimation.

  • @asdfghjklkjhgfdsa69
    @asdfghjklkjhgfdsa69 4 года назад

    Are you sure 448nm is correct? That would make it 330lb/ft. What gear were the runs done in?

  • @matutolaYT
    @matutolaYT 4 года назад

    How did you fit in a s2000, you shouldn't be able to shift and all you should see is the top windshield. Did you shrink?

  • @RealLeskot
    @RealLeskot 4 года назад

    Is there a big problem with oil starvation?

  • @loganadler0
    @loganadler0 4 года назад +7

    Kswap the world!!!

  • @altimatic2183
    @altimatic2183 4 года назад

    I'd love a comparison between the f22c with the k24
    imo the f22 solved the torque that the F20 lacked

  • @Alodri
    @Alodri 4 года назад

    Is there a nickname for the K20/24 combo? Special-K or something like that?

  • @haztruong3244
    @haztruong3244 3 года назад

    How much did the swap cost all up? Including the sale of the F20 how much has it cost the owner?
    I've been considering doing the swap also but usually me and my old man fix everything on the car so I don't have a trusted mechanic in Melbourne to quote roughly how much the swap would be.

    • @haltech
      @haltech  3 года назад

      Unfortunately we don't have that information. Sorry.

  • @marcoabrahams2333
    @marcoabrahams2333 9 месяцев назад

    I'm based in Cape town South Africa and we have a few K24 with k20z4 head swaps (fn2 type R head) here but what surprises me is that out cars makes similar KW if not more but our NM is nowhere near you guys we are like In the 290 to 320 range.. so how is it possible that this car makes 400Nm and our setups are basically the same? What else is done to that engine?

  • @arthursmith5409
    @arthursmith5409 4 года назад

    I believe you read my mind, a rear drive transmission for a k swap! So... What company sells the adapter and would I need a special flywheel and clutch assembly as well.

    • @ichihusni5014
      @ichihusni5014 4 года назад +1

      There are actually lots of it. Kmiata guys have the adaptor for mating k series into the stoud bmw box

  • @alltheboost5363
    @alltheboost5363 4 года назад +1

    I'm not a huge fan of Honda...but im not against them. I thought about putting a K24 hybrid into my 71 Datsun but I don't want to lose that inline 6 originality of the Z. I wish they made a six-cylinder version of the K24 or a V8 based off of the K24 cylinder head with a girdled bottom end.... it'd be the perfect engine.

    • @briana3695
      @briana3695 4 года назад

      Pointless, the 4 cyl k motor is a perfectly balanced motor. Less moving parts (then 6/8cyl), reliable, and powerful. How are you not a fan?

  • @vtecbrown
    @vtecbrown 2 года назад

    which ECU was used in this? Any adapter harness available specific to this chassis?

    • @haltech
      @haltech  2 года назад

      This one runs on an Elite 1500. There are a couple of different adaptor options available: www.haltech.com/product-category/honda-acura/honda-s2000/

  • @hondatrix
    @hondatrix 4 года назад

    Scotty mate, keep talking about Honda K's and the MCM boys might hate you.... lol