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  • Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
  • Want longer camera cables for your ATEM Mini Pro? Up to 150ft? In today's video I'm testing Cat6 (ethernet) HDMI Extenders to see if they work with the Blackmagic ATEM Mini and to see if the quality is as good as people say.
    Timecodes:
    00:00 Intro
    01:08 How they work
    01:51 Setup & Testing
    05:23 Does tally work?
    06:58 Recommendations
    07:52 Final thoughts
    Link to Kit:
    kit.co/alexpet...
    #Blackmagic #ATEMMINIPRO #Partner

Комментарии • 271

  • @AlexPettitt
    @AlexPettitt  4 года назад +2

    If you were one of the fast ones to claim the gift, let me know it was you in the comments so I can say hi!
    If you don't have a clue what I'm talking about, watch the video and all will become clear ;)

    • @noelw3966
      @noelw3966 4 года назад

      Hi Alex Pettitt! Thank you for hiding the gift card in the video! I’m going to use it to pick up one of these extenders. And I really enjoy your videos on the ATEM mini system.

    • @bradcrawford1135
      @bradcrawford1135 4 года назад

      Looks like I was fast enough!
      Alex, thanks for one of the gift cards and the clear, approachable nature of the videos on your channel.
      Your ATEM Mini Pro videos have inspired many people like me to find creative new ways to put our new devices to work.
      Really appreciate it, keep up the good work!

    • @IngoWoelke
      @IngoWoelke 4 года назад +1

      Well, I don't have a clue, but I don't watch your videos to win a gift, I watch them because they are awesome! So, thanks and keep up the good work.

  • @MoanStarProductions
    @MoanStarProductions 4 года назад +19

    I’ve been using a fiber optic 100m hdmi cable and it works with no issues on the pocket 4K and the atem mini pro combo. Even still has tally and camera control.

    • @serchenmorris1979
      @serchenmorris1979 4 года назад

      Hey which brand are you using for the 100 m fiber optic hdmi cable??

    • @MoanStarProductions
      @MoanStarProductions 4 года назад +3

      Serchen Morris ATOMZING Slim HDMI 2.0b Fiber Cable, 328ft/100m, Supports 4K@60Hz Fiber Optic Cable, 4:4:4/4:2:2/4:2:0, HDR, ARC, HDCP2.2, 3D, Dolby Vision, 18Gbps Fiber Optic HDMI Cord www.amazon.com/dp/B07V663YB6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7yJ-Eb49XS50T

    • @drpeks
      @drpeks 3 года назад

      Do you use it on all inputs for multicamera streaming? I just ordered two 50t and one 30ft fibre optic hdmi. will be connecting to our cameras via the micro/mini to hdmi adapter and i'm honestly scared if I made the wrong choice.

    • @MoanStarProductions
      @MoanStarProductions 3 года назад

      @@drpeks I haven’t tested it with any adapters, I only use it on my pocket 4k and 6k

    • @markanenberg
      @markanenberg 3 года назад

      The details on the Amazon unit that you provided says that it only supports one-way transmission. I'm wondering how the camera control could be working then. Are you able to change camera settings, color, zoom...?

  • @younken24films
    @younken24films 4 года назад +5

    Thank you again Alex. Especially because I did order some high quality HDMI cables as you said ranging from 30 to 50 feet and they all worked even in both directions! I'm installing them at a newly opening restaurant /bar and haven't been able to test them for a long length of time yet but initially they all worked!

  • @robertharker
    @robertharker 4 года назад +3

    Double plus for HDMI over fiber. I am using an Amazon Basics 100 ft cable and it works like a charm. No boxes which need their own HDMI cables or external power supplies.

  • @chrismiller6486
    @chrismiller6486 2 года назад +3

    I've bought the same cat 6 extenders as in Alex's video to get BMPCC6k into ATEM but having no luck at all. I'm using Cat 6 cable and quality HDMI cables. All cables I've tested independently and they're working well, and the extenders also work - i tested by connecting my laptop screen. My BMPCC6k is also definitely sending a picture along the HDMI alone but as soon as I plug in my BMPCC6k to the extended HDMI and Cat6 setup, exactly as the video, it doesn't carry the picture. Any suggestions would be very welcome from those who may have been through this!

    • @CollinShook
      @CollinShook 2 года назад

      I have the same issue. I use 7 canon m-series with these for my recording studio where we livestream concerts. Just got my first BM6kPro model, no matter what configuration of cat6 cable lengths or hdmi cable lengths, no signal at all over these extenders. They've all worked flawlessly with the canon cams, up to 150ft cat6. Even 6 inches with 6kpro, no signal

  • @bryansumile
    @bryansumile 2 года назад

    thanks for this insightful video! our church will be purchasing an HDMI extender + CAT6 cable for our one-camera live stream setup. thanks again!

  • @ivarmh
    @ivarmh 4 года назад +9

    Would be interesting to see if remote control/tally would work with extenders that support CEC

  • @burleigh604
    @burleigh604 Год назад

    I am a AV engineer. SDI is very good but cable expensive compared with Cat6a. I have been using HDMI extenders for years, new ones coming out are very good and can take 60FPS the earlier ones only 30fps max. Some can not do 4k due the their cheap chipset. Please check if they can. We use Crestron (very expensive) Blustream, CVP, Kramer and other dedicated AV extenders. Not used amazon placed products before so have no idea how they perform.
    Aura which you can get from Mayflex and really good price for the TX and RX units but not yet reviewed these yet with 4k 60fps signal.

  • @ChiefNonsense
    @ChiefNonsense 3 года назад +2

    Thank you, Alex! We are in the infancy of setting up a streaming system for the local high school sports programs. (Thanks, covid!) To get up and running fast, we used 50’ hdmi cables to the cameras but I really need to spread the cameras out more to make for more interesting transitions between angles. I was thinking about trying this and here you already did the testing for me! Thanks again.

    • @vertusmatjaz
      @vertusmatjaz 3 года назад

      And does it works. I have a similar problem

    • @FenixEventProductions
      @FenixEventProductions Год назад +1

      Go for SDI runs instead of cat6. Blackmagic has SDI-HDMI converters, both 3G and 12G.

    • @ChiefNonsense
      @ChiefNonsense Год назад

      @@FenixEventProductions agreed. We now use the generic SDI-HDMI converters available on eBay for about $30 each. I make my own SDI cables from a cheap spool of quad shield coax and some budget connectors I found on eBay. The other options just weren’t reliable enough.

    • @FenixEventProductions
      @FenixEventProductions Год назад

      @@ChiefNonsense Thats great. You are better off with generic converters as most bypass HDCP and will be less of a headache in the future. HDMI is consumer grade equipment, not pro grade. I dont run longer than 5' HDMI cables, its just not reliable and the connection head is its weak point, they tend to bend and break easily.

  • @mathesmiles
    @mathesmiles 4 года назад +2

    Hi, just was looking for such a video which answered lots of my questions. Thank you..

  • @techthisout3549
    @techthisout3549 3 года назад +1

    Love to see how prosumer approach to things that had been made like 10 y ago :) btw good video, but always suggest SDI for long distance cabling... SDI is the only way to have uncompressed signal after all nowadays! NDI is pretty amazing and it will be the future for sure!

    • @R32vdubb
      @R32vdubb 3 года назад

      SDI for the win!!! Can’t go wrong

  • @PierreLasry
    @PierreLasry 4 года назад +3

    Hi Alex ! Great video as usual! Could you please make a video testing the new fiber optic HDMI cables? I believe it should be a cheaper option than using the SDI cables with the 2 converters SDI to HDMI. THANK YOU!!

  • @benjaminruiz8900
    @benjaminruiz8900 4 года назад +1

    great info. i just my ATEM mini, thinking of getting cat6 hdmi extenders. it will come in great for the future productions coming up in my country. thanks for the info.

    • @vertusmatjaz
      @vertusmatjaz 3 года назад

      I have a Blackmagic Atem mini to and I am wondering if there is and lag issues with extender you have try it. This testing is sadly with cable 30 meters long and could not see if there is any lag because he was not in the screen. Too bad.

  • @petersamdruplepcha740
    @petersamdruplepcha740 4 года назад

    Thanks for the knowledge and its really god to see that you come out with new tech that is extremely helpful for us.

    • @AlexPettitt
      @AlexPettitt  4 года назад

      Thanks Peter, glad you like the videos so far :)

  • @shawndonnelly862
    @shawndonnelly862 4 года назад

    I was looking into HDMI/CAT6 extenders a few weeks ago because I have an event (high school graduation outdoors) very soon where I need some long (about 60 meters / 200 feet) cable runs for two cameras to my ATEM mini pro. That is not what I purchased the mini pro for, it just an event that came up that I need to do. After reading lots of posts here and there and watching numerous videos about extenders, I decided that, to use a UK term, it was just too "fidly" to take a chance on with the extra connections, power supplies, weather, kids, vehicles, etc. So I purchased a couple sets of the Hollyland Mars 400s HDMI transmitter/receivers. More money for sure but less problems to sort out when things go wrong in the heat of the battle and I am working with teenage students. However, I think I will get some extenders for those events where I can protect my cables better. Your video was excellent and really convinced me to get some extenders for the future. Thank you. Perhaps future video on the mini pro running hot.

  • @yasyas1303
    @yasyas1303 4 года назад +1

    Hi. Thanks for all your videos. I watch them all. In this case in found a solution to talk back signal to the camera with 50 meters long. Hope I can make video soon to explain that . Or another way to share it

    • @wasbeen
      @wasbeen 4 года назад

      I’d love to see that video too.

  • @daftdj123
    @daftdj123 4 года назад +5

    It also works with a 2$ passive converter.

    • @imothy
      @imothy 3 года назад +2

      Link?

  • @bobbyallan5404
    @bobbyallan5404 2 месяца назад

    Hey Alex, I bought all the same set up up way back when you first posted this video EXCEPT the BMPCC4K. I just recently bought one for another project and tired to use the set up again but with the nem camera. but the atem mini does not get a signal from the BMPCC4K at all! iI don't know what to do, any advice?

  • @IAMJOELBURRIS
    @IAMJOELBURRIS 3 года назад

    I got a jtech set of extenders, ran em 150ft and got full control of BMPCC4k AND talley lights. Just make sure all hdmi cables are BIdirectional

  • @SteveVickAK
    @SteveVickAK 4 года назад +4

    Great video as always. Did you test the audio as well? Sometimes a powered extender adds a buzz to the audio.

  • @digitalbirdfilm
    @digitalbirdfilm 10 месяцев назад

    I'm using a similar solution which also works well but the big annoyance with all of the extenders is having the power plugged in at the TX end! Great that you only need power at one end but for us it would be much more practical to have it at the Rx end where we have powerblocks to drive all our other gear. I typically don't have anywhere to plug in at the camera TX end so yet another battery required........ or extension cables running all over the shop so frustrating.

  • @JimmyDThing
    @JimmyDThing 4 года назад

    I got 2 100ft hdmi cables from monoprice on memorial day sale for 22 bucks a piece. They work fine.

  • @samebloke
    @samebloke 3 года назад

    I have ran HDMI 50m to the Atem and have also ran cat6 extender 300m to a outdoor big screen. I imagine it would also depend on all the variables on the devices we use. The long distances were achieved on the Canon 5D3 and Canon XC10 but I cannon recall the HDMI cable brand or the extenders and cat6 cables. I have not done this with any other cameras so I do not know how others would behave

  • @larrywhiteHSP
    @larrywhiteHSP 5 месяцев назад

    Recently purchased ethernet cable HDMI extender; noticed one thing--my Canon C100 mkii will not record internally. If camera record is on, I get a black screen from my Mini Extreem ISO HDMI outputs. Possibly a camera setting, but I haven't found it yet. One or two others on C100 forums have noticed the same.

  • @Peter-cs5ou
    @Peter-cs5ou 4 года назад

    Thanks again for another great video Alex

  • @visualrealityproductions1421
    @visualrealityproductions1421 4 года назад

    You can also use amplified hdmi cables up to 50m. I use a 15 and 20m cable. They are one directional signal so I am not sure if they return BM data to camera

  • @Itsjustbeau
    @Itsjustbeau 3 года назад

    We have done remotes with these during zoom webinars at 160 feet it was flawless.

  • @sdllc4296
    @sdllc4296 4 года назад

    I can testify to the good image quality of 50m Cat6 runs. They'd be great for a one time set-and-forget studio cable run, but I'd really suggest SDI converters for anyone who; 1) will be setting up in the field (well shielded Cat6 is a pain to run and tack down, and not hugely cheaper) and/or 2) has an inkling that they may need to use, rent or buy an SDI capable mixer (ever, or at least in the next few years). Units are not much more in cost, *but* that gets you a lot more flexible setup. Literally and figuratively :D

  • @taff2wales
    @taff2wales 4 года назад

    Got mine today, used 3mtr Cat5e cable, worked well. Going to buy a 30 mtr Cat6 cable now.

  • @MrGabbass
    @MrGabbass Год назад

    Thanks!! what I was looking for!

  • @davidarmstrong9744
    @davidarmstrong9744 3 года назад

    Thanks Alex. Great teacher. Appreciate all your videos.

  • @slacksmeridian
    @slacksmeridian 2 года назад

    I found your video as I specced a Atem Mini Pro ISO with Go Pro's for a venue and used CAT6 Extenders by Cable Matters (for 1080P)
    When I plug it into the ATEM, the atem simply displays a blank blue screen.
    Plug the HDMI cable into a monitor or TV instead of the ATEM and it displays without issue.
    So the signal passes down the CAT6 cable and is converted back to HDMI but it refuses to work.
    I dont know if I've missed a setting or something but I think these partiuclar converters don't work.
    I'm going to purchase a set you're using and try it out

  • @sreynolds777
    @sreynolds777 4 года назад +2

    I’m having success using single direction 75 ft hdmi cable to run Canon M50 into Mini Pro

  • @FreerunMediaService
    @FreerunMediaService 4 года назад +1

    I think i need to correct you a bit. SDI converters are pretty cheap when you use the little boxes. Those are like 35 euro so those aren't the costs. Now for the SDI cable, yes you can buy the 6G or 12G SDI cable but i did some projects with low budget and even though i wanted the true SDI cable, they bought 100 meters black coaxial cable. I cut it up to 50m and it still worked like a charm. No delay and no problems with video dropout. Also you have the audiochannels. So a cheaper cable should work up to 50 meters with no problems.

    • @randomgeocacher
      @randomgeocacher 4 года назад

      I’ve run 1080p/25 great on long cheap SDI cables, and short cables on tiny wires. 1080p data rates are very forgiving. That said, SDI coax isn’t a great cable in theory, it lacks common mode noise rejection since its a single data wire. A good Ethernet TP cable ought to be better at rejecting noise. So when you go towards 4K and 12G, maybe TP will outperform coax into longer distances.

    • @andydelle4509
      @andydelle4509 4 года назад

      @@randomgeocacher Yes, SDI is single ended electrically. But the noise immunity is so good you will have signal attenuation problems long before you ever see an external electrical noise problem. I have engineered several massive broadcast SDI installations since the 1990s. Never had an electrical noise issue. I suppose if you ran the cable through an electrical sub station you might have a problem but in most any practical setup you will be fine. The zits or snow you see with bad SDI or HDMI devices and cables is data errors on pixel by pixel basis. It is not electrical noise.

    • @randomgeocacher
      @randomgeocacher 4 года назад

      Andy Delle I’ve seen Ethernet bricked by installation placing IT-cables along the power feed to a printing press (the ones big as small building) so clearly TP isn’t immune to extreme electrical interference, common mode rejection isn’t magical :)
      My incorrect thinking was that in order to overcome attenuation at higher length you would need more wires as with 100gbit/s cat7 (four wires per transmission instead of traditional two). That seems quite impressive compared SDI (currently 12gbit/s, 24 in the works). Then I learned cat7 can only carry 100gbit/s over puny distances, and 10gbit/s will be negotiated over long cable runs, effectively killing the argument that cat7 would be better (faster) than SDI in practice :)
      So no electrical cable I’m aware of is trying to run large data rates over high cable lengths, it seems they all die of attenuation problems at high speeds.
      HDMIs 48gbit/s (3x16gbit/s?) is actually fairly impressive but based on my experience of slower HDMI specifications struggling hard at short cable lengths I really wonder if HDMI 2.1 will work on any meaningful cable lengths.
      I imagine we all will move to fiber for more and more cable runs in the future if we keep increasing data rates without solving copper bandwidth properties.

  • @DavidColemanFilms
    @DavidColemanFilms 4 года назад +11

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to power the receiver rather than the transmitter?

    • @charlieskinner6274
      @charlieskinner6274 4 года назад +1

      Yeah that's really frustrating as I'd have a really good use for this. Surely you're more likely to have power at the receiving end rather than the transmission end 99% of the time.

    • @onlyrooster
      @onlyrooster 4 года назад +2

      100% agree and was my first question. At least Alex showed a solution but still adds to equipment that is remote.

    • @aramb
      @aramb 4 года назад +2

      It might be more convenient, but technologically it is easier to design the product so that the power supply is closest to the biggest power requirement, ie the transmitting side.

    • @aramb
      @aramb 4 года назад

      Also, the device wasn't designed for camera use - its typical use case is for sending a signal to a display, like a projector, from a video system. Supplying power from the transmitter side makes a lot of sense there.

    • @CanesFan65
      @CanesFan65 4 года назад

      ​@@aramb Ok - So why not make it so that you can power it from EITHER END? Problem Solved. Shouldn't make the cost that much more. I guess that would just make too much sense to the people that actually USE these devices.

  • @Alphavideoireland
    @Alphavideoireland 3 года назад

    I personally use the BMD SDI to HDMI micro convertors but this is a great idea if you don't need BMD camera control.

  • @CountryAireDesign
    @CountryAireDesign 4 года назад

    I recommend Jtech cat6 HDMI extenders 300ft no problem... I use 6 of them all running 200 - 300 feet currently.

  • @ProfessorTedStephenson
    @ProfessorTedStephenson 4 года назад

    I have the BMPCC 4K and ATEM mini pro and Sony A6100. Going to set it up over the next 2 weeks. I wanted long range roving for the Sony cam and so I bought the Hollyland 400s. I will let you know if / how that works over 200 feet!

  • @SuperFredAZ
    @SuperFredAZ Год назад +1

    Small correction: there will always be a small delay using a long cable, approximately 1.5 nsecs/ft (5 nsecs/m.) at a minimum. there may be more depending on internal circuitry. This delay is small enough that you don't notice it. Also anyone trying to use these devices for "normal" consumer use will likely lose their "ARC" signal for return audio.

    • @redpurple1035
      @redpurple1035 Год назад

      can this work with 1 unit TX and 10 unit RX through a gigabit non managed switch via all cat6 cables to 10 smart tv?
      I have exact set up right now but it is lagging (low fps) .
      we are using it to as media display and also cctv

    • @SuperFredAZ
      @SuperFredAZ Год назад +1

      @@redpurple1035 no, these devices are not using Ethernet protocol, the simply use the high quality cable but it is not Ethernet. There are devices that put out HDMI over ip, but there inexpensive to devices are not capable. Don't confuse using the cable with it being Ethernet.

    • @SuperFredAZ
      @SuperFredAZ Год назад

      @@redpurple1035 No, this is not an Ethernet signal, it will not go through an Ethernet switch, It is an HDMI signal using the CAT 6 cable. If you try it, you will got nothing out.

    • @redpurple1035
      @redpurple1035 Год назад

      @@SuperFredAZ currently it is working but in low frame rates.

  • @CarlosGamboaGlez
    @CarlosGamboaGlez Год назад

    Thanks Alex, i have atem mini pro with 3 cameras using hdmi extenders and the atem is connected by network, but i use wirecast to stream my content and the atem isn´t showing the cameras. any ideas to solve the problem?

  • @thomaskistner
    @thomaskistner 4 года назад

    I have a suggestion for a further video: Shortcuts in the ATEM Mini. For instance, the preview by numbers 1, 2, 3 in combination with CR oder Space from the ATEM Software.

  • @PeteYagmin
    @PeteYagmin 3 года назад

    Hi Alex - I'm just curious if you can still control the BMPCC using the ATEM when connected using the CAT6 extender. You mentioned the tally light doesn't turn on, so I'm assuming there's no control of the cameras either?

  • @elsaleepiano
    @elsaleepiano 2 года назад

    Just bought this hoping to get the HDMI out from ATEM mini pro to a projector, apparently this doesn't work. It works for extending the distance of the camera from ATEM but doesn't work if you are trying to extend the distance between the output of ATEM to a projector. Anyone has a solution for this please?

  • @timclore7312
    @timclore7312 2 года назад

    I’m trying to use a similar setup, but using the Cat extender on the output side of the ATEM. In other words, HDMI out from ATEM, to extender, to remote display. The HDMI output from ATEM works to the remote display without the extender. The extender works when not going through ATEM, but putting the extender after the ATEM I get no signal to the remote display. I’m testing with a 6 foot cat 5 cable and also tested with a 75 foot cat 7 cable (and switched the receiver’s 30/50 meter switch accordingly). No signal on the display. Any ideas?

  • @OwatonnaSeventh-dayAdventist
    @OwatonnaSeventh-dayAdventist 14 дней назад

    I've been trying to extend the HDMI output of the ATEM using an extender. But the extender is not playing nicely. I wonder if your extender works to extend the output of your ATEM.

  • @brianchita7900
    @brianchita7900 10 месяцев назад

    I tried the exact extenders that you have and wanted to send signal from hdmi out of a atem mini to a 4k tv, and would not work. Maybe needs to be a camera for it to work correctly like your example

  • @crpageAi
    @crpageAi 4 года назад

    Thanks Alex, using these in our "post lockdown" church setup using 30m Cat 8 cables. Please can you do a video on the Fibre HDMI cables - maybe they will allow the ATEM's camera control?

    • @DirkPelgrims
      @DirkPelgrims 4 года назад

      Yes, Fiber HDMI allow BLackMagic camera's control

    • @AlexPettitt
      @AlexPettitt  4 года назад

      Thanks Chris, I’m definitely going to give the HDMI Fiber cables a go!

  • @StevieWilliamsMusic
    @StevieWilliamsMusic 4 года назад

    Hi Alex .. great test! Thank you.

  • @danaforeman4349
    @danaforeman4349 2 года назад

    Thanks Alex

  • @wthiebert
    @wthiebert Год назад

    I wonder if I could use only the transmitter to my projector, cuz the projector has a cat6 input already.

  • @utuberyan6812
    @utuberyan6812 Год назад

    Hey Man. I can’t get anything to display. I long press the edid and it works until the light stops blinking then nothing.

  • @rMr.big13
    @rMr.big13 9 месяцев назад

    Great video… what cable did you use your to power the converter when it was powered by the dtap outside? Have a link ?

  • @billt4318
    @billt4318 4 года назад

    Thank you for sharing this info.

  • @OuglandMedia
    @OuglandMedia Год назад

    Lets say you have multiple switches, connected with fiber-cable. Would it then be possible to place the transmitter in location A, and the received in Location C (all connected with switches and fiber-cables, so its the same network), but the total distance is like 20km ... Would these boxes work? :)

  • @peterduke947
    @peterduke947 3 года назад

    Running the exact same setup using the HDMi extenders used in the video over a 35m cable and I get nothing through to the Atem mini pro. I'm using BMPCC 6k.
    It works fine when I run a laptop through the HDMi extender and into the Atem but not when I hook it up to the camera. Is there a setting I'm missing?
    Am I missing something?

  • @crazy-cinema
    @crazy-cinema Год назад

    it doesn't work here... exact same setup. (it only works on other sources, like Computer, DVD or other (weaker) cameras, but maybe the pocket hdmi signal is too much data?! ) ... any advice?

  • @user-jb9fi7gp8h
    @user-jb9fi7gp8h 9 месяцев назад

    Салам ✋ можно можно использовать для Vmix вместо картазахвата с камеры прямо на кампютер заранее благодарю.

  • @juanm.aguayo-leal9795
    @juanm.aguayo-leal9795 3 года назад

    Excellent video!!! Thank you!!!

  • @stephentse1633
    @stephentse1633 3 года назад

    I found an issue if I use the PWAY on the HDMI output from ATEM, the picture frames being funny. I think it is a mismatch in the frame rate (I thought everything is 1920x1080 60Hz) when I use it with the HMDI output. Do you know where I can adjust the ATEM output frame rate? So I can fix this issue?

  • @Norbert40
    @Norbert40 2 месяца назад

    Thank you!

  • @petefrasersoft
    @petefrasersoft 3 года назад

    NDI is definitely the way forwards as it is ethernet based. Ironically, broadcasters are now going towards ethernet based solutions as the infrastructure is more common and re-usable/upgradable. SMPTE 2110 is what they use with fiber optic interfaces running at 10G/25G! However NDI is a poor-mans solution as it's slightly compressed and so uses lower bandwidth (and is bi-directional). I run a three camera system for my church broadcast, where one camera is HDMI and the other 2 are using NDI and it's great! I also use NDI for a confidence monitor and for song lyrics on a projector. It's much simpler than HDMI or SDI and I can switch the projector (via a web page) between program feed and song lyrics.

  • @ricknelsonduke
    @ricknelsonduke 2 года назад

    Question, could the power be supplied on the receiving end, thus leaving the camera end without the need for another power supply? You mention that the transmitting end can supply the power and the receiving end does not need it, just trying to see if the reverse is possible.

  • @dtnguyen75
    @dtnguyen75 3 года назад

    Have you ever used a HDMI Extractor to monitor the audio in your workflow? How does it work?

  • @grasworxTTGameplan
    @grasworxTTGameplan 4 года назад +1

    IMHO...the segment that's looking to the Mini and Mini Pro...spending an additional 200 bucks on a pair of HDIM/Cat6 converters makes less sense than upgrading to a more robust switcher with SDI connectivity....
    the Mini Pro is 600...+ the converters you're at 800 and you're limited to four connections.
    For 200 more you can get the ATEM Television Studio HD...still run your HDMI cables to 4 inputs and then get SDI for a couple prosumer level camcorders...to me that bundle makes much more sense in the long run
    I use 50' HDMI cables with my Canon Vixia camcorders and so far they've worked flawlessly.

  • @stopandthinknow
    @stopandthinknow 2 года назад

    What about an HDMI Fifer Optic cable for extended runs?

  • @babluroy8939
    @babluroy8939 3 года назад

    I have use Milstone Company HDMI to Cat6 extender input in Atem Mini Switcher but camera input can't display Which Company Cat6 extender use ?

  • @TheMozolo
    @TheMozolo 2 года назад

    Hi Alex what lense are you using on your Blackmagic Camera?

  • @enzopulido2579
    @enzopulido2579 Год назад

    can you plug the power to the receiver instead of the transmitter to power the tx?

  • @Avlimusic
    @Avlimusic 3 года назад +1

    Were you able to trigger the cameras to start recording using the ATEM while being connected with HDMI-CAT6 converter?

  • @Etmannon
    @Etmannon 4 года назад

    i just use j tech from amazon and haven't had any problems running over 120ft for my church. But unfortunately that does answer the question i was wondering about would i be able to use the extra features that using the pocket cinema cameras would ad.

  • @claudiosandalo
    @claudiosandalo 4 года назад

    What happens if you give power to the receiver and not to the transmitter? Does it work anyway?
    I need to power near the Atem (already provided for voltage) while the place where the transmitter is present may not have voltage, the camera is battery powered

  • @victormultanen1981
    @victormultanen1981 4 года назад

    awesome tip! thanks for sharing!

  • @Na5tyify
    @Na5tyify 3 года назад

    Can you get a cat 6 transmitter / receiver that does have the ability to send data both directions so you can use the tally and focus functions?

  • @armandopaz980
    @armandopaz980 3 года назад

    Hi Alex, I’m using the same extenders. When connecting one of my cameras to channel 1, I’m getting a live green monochrome feed. However, I have no issues and get a clear live feed with the same camera, same cable when using channels 2, 3, 4. Have you tried using the channel 1 with a long cat6 cable? I’m only using a 10-15 ft cable. Any feedback would greatly greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

  • @grantmeinecke
    @grantmeinecke 4 года назад

    Great info, I need to get a these!

  • @mathesmiles
    @mathesmiles 3 года назад

    What's the advantages and disadvantages of using cat6 and sdi cables to extend the hdmi signals to distance of 50meters

  • @MiasSteenberg
    @MiasSteenberg 3 года назад

    Have you tried to run the HDMI through a switch? ie: HDMI to transmitter to 30m cat6 into network switch, network switch to receiver and HDMI into Atem

  • @fmgracecom
    @fmgracecom 2 года назад

    We tried the tech digital. It appeared green and inverted on the switcher. Any ideas why it did that?

  • @rob2876
    @rob2876 4 года назад

    Hi Alex Have you done similar videos on other adapters/ converters for the ATEM mini ?? Our church has very recently installed this unit and although it works fine with HDMI we need to use a VGA input from a laptop occasionally. Have you tested any VGA to HDMI converters??

  • @alzyerpal-TV
    @alzyerpal-TV 3 года назад

    Any thoughts on how to work with say, two HDMI video senders (Hollywood 300) and two HDMI cabled cameras in terms of matching video latency ? Is there a way to induce latency into the hard plugged cameras to match the natural delay off the wireless pair ?

  • @cityharvest.church3501
    @cityharvest.church3501 3 года назад

    Does the SDI to HDMI conversion then offer upstream data for color control, tally, etc.? Or will that still only work with a singular HDMI cable? Thanks for being such a great resource for all of this?

  • @carmcrespo9062
    @carmcrespo9062 3 года назад

    Hey Alex, I tried to this method it works well if I don't use the first entry... Somehow I got a green\weird screen. if I plug any other camera directly works good (no extender) and then use entry 2 or 3 or 4 for the HDMI extender... Any idea? I have the mini pro... Cheers from Panamá

  • @scottmains6674
    @scottmains6674 3 года назад

    The dtap connection you have going on is that something that regulates it down to 5v in the hdmi extender unit? I’ve just picked up three of these and hacked a usb connection to plug into a hub to deliver power.

  • @athommen1
    @athommen1 4 года назад

    Thanks, a lot! As I'm planning to bring live ice hockey games, with 3 cameras, on the ATEM Mini PRO, my big question was : - Well I only see guys playing with that in like a "mini studio" but, how far can I go with my HDMI cables, before I loose my signal. Ha! With a CAT6 (I'll go for the CAT7) HDMI extender... You made my evening!

  • @JimRobinson-colors
    @JimRobinson-colors 4 года назад

    Maybe synced clocks to show the latency of the long cable would have been a good thing to show. You showed the latency of a short cable but not with long cable - so when you showed the pocket outside saying it was live - it could have been a full second out and on your video would have appeared "Live". Can this somehow be connected to a WiFi hub to perform a wireless send?

  • @MarkSunner
    @MarkSunner 4 года назад

    Great video 👍 - fab quality on the main cam - what Sony camera did you shoot this on??

  • @mikehyde7117
    @mikehyde7117 3 года назад

    Great video, just wondering if you have tried using pocket 4K control/tally from an Atem over SDI with the micro bidirectional converter?

  • @AchievedMedia
    @AchievedMedia 3 года назад

    Love your videos about this product, thanks for all the knowledge :) If we may ask you a question, on our last "live" gig, the color correction for the BMPCC6k did not work. Whatever adjustments we made nothing changed. Is there a fix for this? We have not found any specific information about how to use it, so we assume it's just plug and play,

  • @kenblack4802
    @kenblack4802 3 года назад

    Do you have a recommendation for HDMI extender as well as a usb control so the menus could be controlled from a remote camera controller that contains a HDD?

  • @tennisphotography
    @tennisphotography 2 года назад

    Great video :) Question, How did you power the extenders? Can you do this via a Power bank? what cables do you need?

  • @ozzieforbes
    @ozzieforbes 2 года назад

    Hi Alex. I bought 3. They work on 30 ft cat 6 shield cables but not on 100ft same cable. Any suggestion?

  • @mikeestacio4230
    @mikeestacio4230 4 года назад

    I am using 100ft 4K Fiber HDMI cable and no issue so far, maybe you can test this also and see if tally light work.

  • @DirkPelgrims
    @DirkPelgrims 4 года назад +8

    I would prefer a Optic HDMI cable, and the Tally lights will work.

    • @BigG_74
      @BigG_74 4 года назад +1

      I have a 20 meter and a 30 meter HDMI cable (with optics) and works perfectly

    • @XABI777
      @XABI777 4 года назад +1

      Too expensive

    • @poultrysoundsmusicstudio3105
      @poultrysoundsmusicstudio3105 4 года назад

      I have used ATEM mini with 4 Sony cameras, all connected with 50m long optical HDMI cables without any problems. Cannot confirm that tally or color adjustment works as I don’t have any Black Magic cameras.

    • @BigG_74
      @BigG_74 4 года назад

      cat6 extenders or sdi is way more expensive. (in NL)

  • @VOICEOFBETHEL
    @VOICEOFBETHEL 4 года назад

    i have canon xa 11 camera ... mini hdmi ... ihave 25 meter hdmi cable .. its not working .. any solution .. only hdmi working in one meter cable

  • @IAMJOELBURRIS
    @IAMJOELBURRIS 4 года назад

    Are you sure the Cat 6 extender you bought is a Bi Directional unit? Some on Amazon are not, I purposely purchased the bi-directional extenders for this purpose, but I don't have a BMDPCC to test....yet. Hopefully this weekend.

  • @FatihVideographer
    @FatihVideographer 3 года назад

    Is there no converter for the ethernet out of the amp ? A second pgm with very little delay over ethernet would be great, the streaming bridge adds too much delay :(

  • @CSFviolinist
    @CSFviolinist 3 года назад

    What about Fiber Optic HDMI Cables?

  • @DvT093
    @DvT093 3 года назад

    I’m getting quite some intermittent / flickering video with these exact extenders using a cat6 30m Ethernet cable. Any ideas to fix this? Already using the 50m switch on the extender...

  • @gerardobello1747
    @gerardobello1747 4 года назад

    This is a really good alternative. Thanks for sharing. It transfer video and audio or just video? I’m not sure if you mentioned this. Thanks!!

  • @younken24films
    @younken24films 4 года назад +1

    Alex, could you go into more depth about the BM Video Assist monitor you use? For example, what are it's advantages and is the similar cheaper model as good - do the HDMI and SDI outs mirror the screen or can it also send clean program out of both simultaneously? Thanks again!

    • @AlexPettitt
      @AlexPettitt  4 года назад

      Chris Younken Great idea! Will be sure to talk about it more in a future video :) Thanks 🙏

    • @TaystTheNotes
      @TaystTheNotes 4 года назад

      I second the request! In the review however, can you discuss video assist monitor options for those of us who also would take the pocket cinema outside on a mobile shoot with a pocket cinema attached to a rig? I’m hoping that with the monitor or monitors that you talk about, they won’t be just restricted to indoor use.