Thank you for a very concise lecture Brother I can now go ahead with extending through my wall and into my kitchen and actually know what I'm doing for a change, Peace and greetings from across the pond in The Grand Duchy of Cornwall UK👍
Thanks for this video possibly solved an issue I had. Question for you though, I have a TV in the kitchen that I ran a 75ft HDMI cable to from the living room (Xfinity) and a 50ft cable from the office (Direct TV) . Worked fine for 3 years, then didn't use it for about a month, went to use it, the kitchen TV (LG) no longer could "see" the input. Got a new TV, and only the office TV signal came thru (after replacing the DTV box which somehow also didn't work anymore). The living room TV signal works using a 6 ft cord, but the 75 ft cord no longer seems to carry the signal. What would cause this? Lack of use, a lightning strike?
Great presentation. We have used a similar arrangement at our church for laptop to projector presentations (with a run of 80'-90') for years and it works great. One consideration is that because we are located in FL , we get a lot of lightning so about every year or two we have had to replace the baluns, probably due to nearby lightning strikes. We used cheap ones which may explain something. Next ones are going to have some resistance to surges, etc. Oh, where is description?
I really wanted to try this but the Cable I have running is only CAt5e and I'd like to pull off 4k 60hz of which i also don't know if Cat5e would be enough. I'm trying to run my bedroom computer up to my living room TV, which is about 36ft away. I'm thinking a simple HDMI cable will probably give me less problems if I can find a good quality one, and decreases the amount of hardware in the setup at the same time.
I believe that will require certified HDMI 2.1 optical cables. Ruipro is one of the few brands I can find to be reliable, based on online reviews, but other brands might exist now.
Question I have been using AMX HDMI extenders with CAT5e pinned out to the standard LAN configuration, In leinths under 100 feet I tried using CAT6 and I can get 1 of 2 data/LAN indication BUT it wont pass the HDMI signal (The cable tester shows all pins terminated properly) When dealing with CAT6 is the Pin out different? Most of these HDMI extenders the manufacturer doesn't show the proper pin out I have noticed over the years that CAT cables two or more pairs have more twists than others
So I understand some of the basics but what is the benefit of a Ethernet cable over a HDMI? What I don't get are these points * Is Ethernet faster than HDMI (based on the top end specs for eg 2.1 Ethernet / Cat 8 Ethernet) * Is the HDMI cable more "fragile" over long distance or more susceptible to issues? Has more resistance so drops the single? * Won't the extra convertors cause an increase in input lag? For gaming, I get the best thing to do is have a short as possible HDMI. But for extending are you just losing image display speed (input lag) using these convertors?
HDMI cables have a rather short limit on how far you connect with before the signal degrades. So think of the situation presented in the video, laptop that feeds the video screen at the church are beyond the distance that HDMI cable can reach. Ethernet cable has much greater distances it can go versus HDMI before signal/data degrades. Hence, the solution is ethernet with HDMI to ethernet bridge.
I have a PC and a smart tv, and I want to game on the TV in 4K@120Hz , and want to run an in-wall solution, the inwall distance would be around 20ft , what should I do? HDMI fiber optic cable or HDMI over cat6a cable?
youtube doesnt like links but its huaham hdmi its 30$ for 25ft. Didn't run thru wall just taped along it. And I get perfect 4k 120hz HDR. Its awesome but not sure how long itll last.@@kaustavchatterjee366
We ran 150 feet of cat 6 cable to some video cameras using cat 6 extenders, and although we get a good signal we got some interference if our phones are close by. This does not happen with a shorter run (30 feet). Do you think that the extenders you recommend would solve that, or do we need to run shielded cable instead? Thanks!
@@Foundery it’s connected to a mirorless camera. I’ve tried 3 different extenders and all of them give me similar interference with that length of 150 feet. I haven’t tried the one you recommended. And cat 6 is direct and does not go through a switch only 2 couplers. The only thing that works is an extender that is IP based but it has latency. Thanks!
@@josiahroman1457 These hdmi to rj45 adapters are to much sensible to interference of any kind. Electrical interference or radiofrequency interference (like your phones). And it is nearly imposible to avoid, because 99% of the market are the same chinese electronics with diferent branding. In our setup, we had a similar run and the interference was due to the house lights. Powering on or off the house lights had the signal go black a few seconds and then return has normal. No one other light was giving a problem, just house lights. We tried diferent cables, CAT5, CAT5E, CAT6... UTP, FTP, SFTP... Grounding, not grounding... Separate electrical circuits... diferent power supplies for the adapters... None of that work. The only solution was to change the house lights lo LED (and remove the transformers with them) but at the end, we just switch to IP based extenders. They have a few frames of latency, but not interference at all (and can be run into switches and other IP devices).
These boxes make no sense to me. All distance between 30-300 feet, we use fiber optics HDMI cables. No external power supply, no aditionnal boxes or devices and the cables are so much thinner and lighter, sturdier and even chesaper than your proposed solution. But it’s always good to know what different solutions do exist and if they work, so thanks for the information.
If you can get it cheaper.. but I can't find fiber optic HDMI cheaper than an extender. Also running an ethernet cable is easier and in some cases it already exists.
We're using this for information screens around a manufacturing plant. This tech allows existing network cabling to be used and suck change of display locations without running new cable.
Thank you for a very concise lecture Brother I can now go ahead with extending through my wall and into my kitchen and actually know what I'm doing for a change, Peace and greetings from across the pond in The Grand Duchy of Cornwall UK👍
Thank you, brother. I’m running monitors in my church thank you for the better idea we worship in the Bronx thanks again
Thanks for this video possibly solved an issue I had. Question for you though, I have a TV in the kitchen that I ran a 75ft HDMI cable to from the living room (Xfinity) and a 50ft cable from the office (Direct TV) . Worked fine for 3 years, then didn't use it for about a month, went to use it, the kitchen TV (LG) no longer could "see" the input. Got a new TV, and only the office TV signal came thru (after replacing the DTV box which somehow also didn't work anymore). The living room TV signal works using a 6 ft cord, but the 75 ft cord no longer seems to carry the signal. What would cause this? Lack of use, a lightning strike?
Can the live video feed of this extender from the PTZ Camera be converted to a video signal for OBS via a HDMI Capture Card?
Great presentation. We have used a similar arrangement at our church for laptop to projector presentations (with a run of 80'-90') for years and it works great. One consideration is that because we are located in FL , we get a lot of lightning so about every year or two we have had to replace the baluns, probably due to nearby lightning strikes. We used cheap ones which may explain something. Next ones are going to have some resistance to surges, etc. Oh, where is description?
Thanks so much...trying to send a hundred foot signal out to an out building on our property and this helped immensely
I really wanted to try this but the Cable I have running is only CAt5e and I'd like to pull off 4k 60hz of which i also don't know if Cat5e would be enough. I'm trying to run my bedroom computer up to my living room TV, which is about 36ft away. I'm thinking a simple HDMI cable will probably give me less problems if I can find a good quality one, and decreases the amount of hardware in the setup at the same time.
Is it capable of 4K 120 hz, as optical Fibre hdmi?
I believe that will require certified HDMI 2.1 optical cables. Ruipro is one of the few brands I can find to be reliable, based on online reviews, but other brands might exist now.
Thanks very much, i have been trying to find a solution for our church in Australia
Could I use this with Apple TV ? And have full control of it with I r
How much of a delay are we talking about if I just used a really long HDMI cable versus the bridge setup? is it really noticeable?
If fiber cable used to extend hdmi ?
Will this work for what I’m aiming for? I have a PC and Monitor capable of 1440p 240hz
does it works on a capture card?
Question
I have been using AMX HDMI extenders with CAT5e pinned out to the standard LAN configuration, In leinths under 100 feet
I tried using CAT6 and I can get 1 of 2 data/LAN indication BUT it wont pass the HDMI signal
(The cable tester shows all pins terminated properly)
When dealing with CAT6 is the Pin out different? Most of these HDMI extenders the manufacturer doesn't show the proper pin out
I have noticed over the years that CAT cables two or more pairs have more twists than others
Yep! It's called HDBaseT
So I understand some of the basics but what is the benefit of a Ethernet cable over a HDMI?
What I don't get are these points
* Is Ethernet faster than HDMI (based on the top end specs for eg 2.1 Ethernet / Cat 8 Ethernet)
* Is the HDMI cable more "fragile" over long distance or more susceptible to issues? Has more resistance so drops the single?
* Won't the extra convertors cause an increase in input lag?
For gaming, I get the best thing to do is have a short as possible HDMI. But for extending are you just losing image display speed (input lag) using these convertors?
HDMI cables have a rather short limit on how far you connect with before the signal degrades. So think of the situation presented in the video, laptop that feeds the video screen at the church are beyond the distance that HDMI cable can reach. Ethernet cable has much greater distances it can go versus HDMI before signal/data degrades. Hence, the solution is ethernet with HDMI to ethernet bridge.
I have a PC and a smart tv, and I want to game on the TV in 4K@120Hz , and want to run an in-wall solution, the inwall distance would be around 20ft , what should I do? HDMI fiber optic cable or HDMI over cat6a cable?
what did you go with? I got a cheap fibre optic 25ft cable and so far works wonderfully.
@@liquidsunshine697 did you run the cable in wall? are you getting 4k@120 ? please give the link what cable you are using
youtube doesnt like links but its huaham hdmi its 30$ for 25ft. Didn't run thru wall just taped along it. And I get perfect 4k 120hz HDR. Its awesome but not sure how long itll last.@@kaustavchatterjee366
We use ruipro
I been trying to install at a restaurant works in office but wont work on job site its a orei
We ran 150 feet of cat 6 cable to some video cameras using cat 6 extenders, and although we get a good signal we got some interference if our phones are close by. This does not happen with a shorter run (30 feet). Do you think that the extenders you recommend would solve that, or do we need to run shielded cable instead? Thanks!
Is the cat 6 for network, NDI, or are you using a different HDMI extender?
@@Foundery it’s connected to a mirorless camera. I’ve tried 3 different extenders and all of them give me similar interference with that length of 150 feet. I haven’t tried the one you recommended. And cat 6 is direct and does not go through a switch only 2 couplers. The only thing that works is an extender that is IP based but it has latency. Thanks!
@@josiahroman1457 These hdmi to rj45 adapters are to much sensible to interference of any kind. Electrical interference or radiofrequency interference (like your phones). And it is nearly imposible to avoid, because 99% of the market are the same chinese electronics with diferent branding. In our setup, we had a similar run and the interference was due to the house lights. Powering on or off the house lights had the signal go black a few seconds and then return has normal. No one other light was giving a problem, just house lights. We tried diferent cables, CAT5, CAT5E, CAT6... UTP, FTP, SFTP... Grounding, not grounding... Separate electrical circuits... diferent power supplies for the adapters... None of that work. The only solution was to change the house lights lo LED (and remove the transformers with them) but at the end, we just switch to IP based extenders. They have a few frames of latency, but not interference at all (and can be run into switches and other IP devices).
It works but with slight latency
Thank you so much, appreciate your effort. more subscribers on your channel.
What cable do you use or does it matter as long as it’s cat6 or 7?
This is Witchcraft!!!
These boxes make no sense to me. All distance between 30-300 feet, we use fiber optics HDMI cables. No external power supply, no aditionnal boxes or devices and the cables are so much thinner and lighter, sturdier and even chesaper than your proposed solution. But it’s always good to know what different solutions do exist and if they work, so thanks for the information.
If you can get it cheaper.. but I can't find fiber optic HDMI cheaper than an extender.
Also running an ethernet cable is easier and in some cases it already exists.
I have heard of MM and SM Fiber BUT never HDMI Fiber
Do you have a manufacturer info on that?
which brand of fiber hdmi do you use?
We're using this for information screens around a manufacturing plant. This tech allows existing network cabling to be used and suck change of display locations without running new cable.
The 20 M/sec delay (latency) between each of the four ports kinda sucks