The Reasons & Details on How Much Soap to Use in Garden Oil Sprays: IT VARIES! - TRG 2016
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Soap is used to disperse the oil through the water so that when you spray, you get a nice even coat of oil on the leaves. Too much soap or too little soap can lead to damage. The amount of soap you use varies based on what kind you use. I show you how to figure out how much soap you need in 1 gallon of water.
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I continue to be very impressed with your videos. I was JUST trying to fix an indoor aphid problem, using soap/water mixture and not knowing how much mix it after destroying some leaves. Then your video popped up. Great stuff, very thorough. Happy subscriber from So California here! Looking forward to more. Thanks Gary.
Thanks for the explanation on the different soaps. I had used 1 tbsp to a gallon of water on my spinach and noticed some damage and was scratching my head as to why. Now I understand why thanks to you explaining the different soaps.
This video is very helpful, which explains very well and is easy to follow even for gardening beginners. Thanks a lot.
Glad to help.
Thanks Gary! This is WAY more helpful than the "use pure soap" suggestions you see around the web. Castile soap can be difficult to find in many localities.
That is the key in that we all have different soaps. Glad it helped.
as a new gardener I appreciate the info youre putting out. Thanks !
What does spraying plants with oil do? What's this thing he's working on for haha
+Osiris 12 .....read up on the history of neem oil. It started in India when the locusts would come and eat everything but the neem tree. So it was found that bugs don't like it (also good for scabies and fleas...few drops in a bath). So neem keeps pests away, and soap helps disperse for spraying
Thanks! This answers my questions fully.
I’m glad I stumbled upon this video- this is a terrific demonstration on how to test how much soap to use! By repeating the experiment and using the Castile soap made by “Dr B” that is usually highly recommended on some channels it shows that the neem oil clumps to the soap and forms a thick sludge that floats to the top. Other soaps actually disperse the oil- this is probably why my neem sprays have not had too much success. The DR B soap contains a lot of oils in it too so that might be the problem so it is ineffective in being a dispersant for the neem oil - this is a great channel I’ve learned so much here! Thanks
Pure cold-pressed neem is a component of my sprays. I tend to mix 1 tbs neem to 3/4 tbs Dawn. 1 tsp isn't quite enough to emulsify the neem in my testing. I mix in plastic cup first then add to sprayer. But the premise is exactly right. Just the bare amount to emulsify the oil so it can be sprayed uniformly. Great job Gary informing us.
Brent
Hi How much water do you use? 1 gallon?
Great Info, quick fast and to the point. Thank you Sir.
That is my goal thanks.
Thank you for explaining about the dispersion of oil . This makes the process more memorable. I could not remember when other folks just said how much of assorted measured ingredients lthey used. Your video. assured me that I can be successful thanks to your video. A teacher you are for real ! DON'T STOP THE MUSIC ! HOLLER
Glad to help. Appreciated
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great update !! great information !! thanks for sharing !! all the best and happy gardening !!
+50 shades of green Thanks
Good information Gary. I need to do more test spraying. So far I have been lucky. I have heard the Dawn was a really good one to use. Best wishes Bob.
Great! You answered all my questions. Thank you!
glad to help.
Great video on the soap it actually sounds like the best approach thus far really wish you cleared up the neem oil too
A Neem oil prep vid that is to the point...thank u
Glad to make one
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Tks well explained as I was searching for the reasons to add soap
Apprecieated. Just enough to disperse the oil.
Gary you are a genius well explained I am so heartbroken all my newly grown tender leaves have been eaten and are lifeless . Hope this helps .
Well thanks! Good luck.
Good video. Well explained. Thanks
Glad to share
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Thanks for sharing
Excellent upload, thanks a lot
+Mohan Udiavar Sure
in Morocco we use the Baldy soap which is kinda of paste that they made from olive oil residues, works perfectly well on aphids
Thanks
In Morocco you know well how to grow weed and very well how to make hash ; )
Thanks! Excellent advices.
Thanks
Thank you so much
Excellent video! Bought some of your Neem and Peppermint oil. :-)
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Awesome!
Thanks for the advice
Yep.
Excellent video thank you!
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+Gary Pilarchick, thanks for explaining.
+Sabine RiverAuthority Youre welcome
I'm thinking that fruit tree leaves are a little tougher than most garden plant leaves, so do you think the spray for fruit trees could be a bit stronger, or would you keep the same formula? Thank you.
I am using what you have, Castile soap and the neem oil. I sprayed some tonight but we had a heavy rain. Ok, how often do you need to spray it on your plants and is it completely safe?
Thanks
Thank you so much for this excellent explanation a well as for your other, very informative, straight to the point videos.
I have finally been able to get my hands on cold press 100% organic neem oil (Canada, eh? not! ) and bough 100% organic castile soap (that one is available no problem), but wasn't sure how much to add "either to another" :-)
You have explained it all beautifully.
Thank you for sharing and wishing you happy gardening and lots of bug-free greens :-)
Glad to help and test spray anything new.
100% organic castile soap is a direct replacement for the Dawn? I guess any all natural surfactant will do?
thank you.
+Daina Moran (dinkydo316) of course
I learned the hard way. Used Dawn soap with my neem oil and burned all the leaves on 20 pepper plants. I now use Murphy's Oil Soap!
That is why it is hard to give exact amounts. Just enough of Murphys might be a tablespoon. A tablespoon of ultra dawn might be disastrous. I hope they recovered.
Fortunately I only lost two bell pepper. Interestingly, the habanero plants responded by setting a whole bunch of new leaves--just like they do if you were to top them. Gotta be careful with the Arkansas sun!
Thanks for this video Gary! I found that -- as you indicated -- 2 Tbsp neem oil to 1 tsp Dawn dish detergent mixed well with good dispersement in 1 gal of cool water. I sprayed at first light (before the sun comes over the sunset) on my #southernAlabamaHomestead and I saw these "shield"-shaped bugs (beige and light green) falling off my corn, okra, passionfruit, lemons, beans, tomatoes, and peppers by the dozens! I will monitor for the next week my produce quality and quantity to determine how effective my this spraying composition and process was for me. I may have to tweak it some, but thank you for getting me started on the right path! #alabamaHepperleHomestead #hepperleHomestead
Good luck. Always test a spray as its good practice. You can start lower too and work up as needed. I keep a journal for testing out stuff.
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Does neem oil expire or deteriorate when storing
Hi Gary, just found your channel thanks for putting this information out. Can you use canola or some other kind of common house hold oil or will it only work with neem?
Any oil works for smothering oil sprays. Just test spray as you use new oils on a few leaves and wait 48 hours. You check for damage. However, Neem Oil that is could pressed and has azadarichtin in it.. is the only one that kills chewing insects. They eat it and die in a few days. All oils smoother soft body insects but smoother doesn't work for beetles and worms/caterpillars.
I think you'll find that the soap not only breaks up the oil but does stick it to the leaves and also dissolves the waxy protective coating that aphids have on them making it easier to coat them with the neem oil.
Thanks
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Very useful! Thank you for explaining this so clearly.
+Donald Paulson Glad to help.
Will this be safe on and effective on succulents? I have spider mites. Thanks 😊
It should be but I recommend always testing new sprays before covering everything.
I only have a couple of tomato trees. Can i keep the gallon of the mixture for two weeks to reuse or is it for one application and throw away the remaining mixture?
You cant keep neem oil like that. Can you cut recipe in half.
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Thanks Gary! The neem oil I bought from you just came in the mail over the weekend so this is a timely video. Regarding doing a test spray on a few leaves...do you still mix up a whole gallon for the test or a smaller amount? If you do a whole gallon will it keep the whole 48 hours until you've confirmed that the test spray was safe?
Yep it will keep for 2 days. I try an use mine within 1 week.
Gary, just wondering why you dont use any baking soda in receipe.
We get tomato worms and squash bugs every summer so bad, what is the best cure for this little pest?
Neem oil for chewing insects. Insect dust for squash bugs.
Should we put insect dust on squash plants that don't have any insect infestation yet, as a preventative? Which would you recommend?
Gary, once the neem oil and soap spray has been applied to the plant, how long should it be left on before rinsing off with water? Thank you.🌱😘
You leave it. It goes away with rain.
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I wonder if the degreaser soaps could affect or break down the oil. I use a natural soap and I think my Sals works well but is expensive. Have you ever paid attention if some soaps work better than others?
Nothing works better but you are right, more risk with degreasers. I have a 5 gallon container of all natural castile soap. It is as good as any. You need to use more but it is effective and pure.
can you use olive oil instead of neam oil?
Only neem has the azadiracthin in it that is effective for chewing insects. Any oil can be used for a smothering oil assume it is plant friendly.
What type/brand of castile soap do you recommend?
Mine is simple castille made from olive oil.
WALE
tank mix order:
W= wetable powders A= adjuvants
L= liquids
E= emulsified concentrates
that's the order for tank mixing multiple product applications.
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+Gardener Earth Guy thanks
Interesting. As a former Konditor I have learned that you can mix water with oil in baking by adding lecithin. For this reason you add eggs, that is the egg yolk. The same goes for the tempera painters of old, who have mixed their painting powders with a little water and linseed oil but also needed a binding agent, so they too used egg yolk. Now my question is: can one use egg yolk to the mix to keep it even more natural rather than soap? (using my hubby's Google account here..) Rita
Hey really interesting I am going to look into that to learn.
This is very helpful! I follow these recipes but the soap never looks fully dispersed, based on this demo. I’m also using the Castile soap. Now it makes sense. Question, how long does a batch last? I have read repeatedly that neem oil is good only eight hours after mixing? This is not even enough time to do a test run. Also seems like such a waste, especially for me who would really only need about 16 ounces at a time, and that’s probably too much. I appreciate your input!
So I use it withing in a weekend. But I never really tested it. I havent had issues. Try and make enough that it doesnt sit is my preference.
can i use olive oil instead of neem oil?
I use an Ortho dial n spray. Do I also need an emulsifier since it mixes as it goes?
You know I don't know. I am not sure at how well the oil gets agitated through
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN thank you for responding. I used it without dish soap tonight anyway. I figured the Neem Oil is the only thing in the container and it mixes as it goes, so...will find out soon enough.
Hey Gary... how are you doing? I just wanna know if I can use a different oil? Or it is necessary to use neem oil? Thank you
It is for any kind of oil you find or want to use. I just happen to use Neem regularly.
Gary Pilarchik alright.. great.. thank you!
A neem oil recipe I've often seen and currently use is 2 tbsp Dr. Bronner's Sal Suds to 2 tbsp neem oil per gallon of water. It seems to work, and I don't think I've ever damaged plants using it. That said, I never realized the soap was there to suspend the oil in the water! I always assumed its purpose was to help the oil to stick to plant leaves. Thanks for the info! One question, though. I use a baking soda mix as well to combat blight and other fungal diseases. I've read that combining neem oil and baking soda might render the neem oil inert. Any truth to this? I ask because If not, it would be more convenient to just add baking soda to the neem oil mix for a single application.
+Kevin Miller Dr. B usually has Castile soaps. I dont how the baking soda affects the neem oil. The insect component in Neem is the azadirachtin. I dont see how that would be effected.
how do I buy the neem oil from you
I just bought some Neem Oil from you the other day and this answered my questions about using soap! Do you use soaps or other types of surfactants when using liquid seaweed or other water soluble fertilizers?
If it's water soluble fertilizer, you don't need to use soap. You're using soap as an emulsifier to mix oil and water so that you can spray the neem oil evenly to the plant, also to prevent sprayer to get clogged up. If you get the fertilizer that says water soluble, it's already formulated to so that you can just add water, so you don't need to add soap or emulsifier. You also don't need to add soap if your neem oil already is emulsified. You need to follow the direction of whatever you're using.
+Ellen W Thanks Ellen!
Did you ever hear or think about putting a drop or 2 of oil of oregano to your spray? I've always wondered if it would help in any way, as it has a lot of anti bacterial/fungal/viral properties so I always wondered if it could help. I've taken 1-2 pills whenever I feel like I'm getting sick, and even add 2 drops to the water for my chickens and they never have been sick since I started. They say for "preppers" all you need is 1 drop in a gallon of water, let it sit a bit and that anti microbial Properties will be infused into the water. I realize this spray is for pests, but if you can add a drop to the water and get even a minor benefit, I think it would be worth it. Just a thought
+Lloyd Dobbler I havent added other oils but that could work too. I didnt know that about oregano oil.
+Gary Pilarchik (The Rusted Garden)....do a little reading up on and see what you think. Like I said, 1 drop in my chickens water worked wonders. They say it's anti parasitic too
What about adding a little peppermint oil?
Funny that, just studied the effects of Oregano Oil and bought it yesterday for my own health, but the thought is interesting and makes a lot of sense to me. (Rita)
How long can u keep neem oil mix and baking soda mix in ur sprayer
Neem only couple days. I try not to keep it. Baking soda about a week.
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Is it safe to spray the neem oil-cstaille soap on leafy vegetables? Won't we end up eating the soap?
You might. But rain and washing works. I tend to harvest and then spray.
What is this for?
Is it better to use the castile soap?
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I have seen some other folks recommending to add a 3-4 tbls of baking soda to your 1 gal mixture here for insecticidal purposes. What your feelings?
Too much. 1 to 2 tablespoon per gallon. At 3 or 4, depending on the plant variety, there is a good change the pH change from the BS damages the leaves.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Thanks for taking the time to explain that, I do test spray on a leaf and inspect for 48hrs first as you preach.
Thanks for the examples. Can you give an estimate on how often we would need to do this?
+Frank Anderson How often to spray?
Yes
Hi i can't find neem oil . Can i use canola oil instead?
Neem has azadirachtin. I sell it on my shop. Other oils dont have that.
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Any suggestions for another cheaper oil with same results as "Neem Oil", not very affordable for our fixed- income"! We live in zone 9a!
None. Only neem has the Azadirachtin in it.
Hi Gary!
I'm loving your videos and all this great info. I do have powdery mildew on my yellow crookneck. I've been spraying with Neem oil that I bought at the ACE Garden Center. It says it's for fungus and insects/bugs.This is what I"m using:
store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/bonide-neem-oil-spray?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtJzLBRC7ARIsAGMkOAnJIowoLb1XJlTEkZKAfMKZwY0MW9jlP2vPGiUIF82XlXfSkVVf3ggaAsrQEALw_wcB
Do I still need to do the soap? It seems to be keeping insects at bay. Noen so far as I can see. I'm spraying weekly. The leaves that had the mildew still look like they have it, but it hasn't seemed to spread to other places. And all of my 9 tomato plants are holding steady, no blight or anything else that I can see, knock on wood!
Should I also do bi weekly sprays of the aspirin as well as the baking soda formula for prevention on all my veggies/ (right now it's tomatoes, eggplant and the summer squash, but I plan on starting my greens this week).?
Will I still need to do other prevention, such as the Seven, Serenade, etc?
I'm in the Bay Area, 9a Zone
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I can´t get castile oil here, can I use glycerin baby soap?
You can. I have not used it before though
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For how long can I keep the mix?
Neem like 2 days.
Instructions on neem oil bottle: Use warm water to dissolve and shake occasionally throughout the spraying session
+3v388 Which brand. Some are hydrophobic extracts and they remove the azadirachtin. A dispersing agent might already be in it.
Can or will damage your plants I used this method and mine nearly dying they withering every few hours while they in flower this a crucial time and now it's put me back ages now if they die
Can. The batch was to strong. I do recommend test spraying.
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How often can you use the oil spray for insect on chili pepper plants?
Depends on the insects. But sprays in general is every 10-14 days to maintain. More often to treat until they are under control.
how long can you keep a bottle of neem oil before it goes bad?
Just to oil, in a cool place, 1-2 years is consensus. 2 growing seasons. Once mixed, I don't know.
I have 16 oz of neem oil how much dawn dishsoap do I add to it?
Soap varies in strength. Start with 1 teaspoon.
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does baking soda and veg oil work with water and dish soap?
They would mix but what are you using the oil for?
keep the bugs off
why do you need to spray with oil?
+LI LY It is a way to manage fungus, mites or larges insects. Depends on the oil.
I ve not been too impressed with neem oil plus it is way too expensive. Bought 2 small bottles of it at Home Depot and saw very little effect on aphids. Gonna try corn oil as I think it is just a matter of coating the bugs with any oil that helps control them. Madison Avenue is hard at work to get your money.
If your just wanting it for a smothering oil, any oil is fine. For neem it is really about making sure it is 100% cold pressed and has the azadirachtin in it. This stops chewing insects. If the neem oil you bought says Hydrophobic Extract.... it isn't any better than corn oil. That means they removed the key components.
Why is my oil always stays on top of the water no matter how much I put in my liquid soap？There are just bunch of bubbles forming. Is there anything to do with oil？I am short of oil so I just get some olive oil and dump it into my water for testing purpose.
I dont know. It could be on the oil but if you are putting in a lot of soap and shake the oil short disperse for a good couple of minutes. You might have to shake often. All oil wont stay dispersed it floats back to top.
@@THERUSTEDGARDEN I'll give it a try, thanks.
How often do you need to spray?
Every 7-14 days depending on how you are using it.
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I used 1 tsp of Castill soap and 1 tsb of 100% neem oil in a gallon of water. Do you know how long this solution can stay once mixed? I would hate to discard what is not used.
I keep mine about 1 week. I actually dont know the full shelf life once mixed.
Thanks
Steve Persaud Did it help?
You kept jumping between tablespoon and teaspoon as if they were interchangeable. Would you please clarify.
Tablespoon is the oil.Teaspoon is the soap.
Can I put neem oil if it just rained?
Yep
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can u use sunflower oil
Not for chewing insects only neem oil has azadiracthin. For a smoothing oil I suppose you could but any oil does that.
is it safe to use degeaser soaps on fruit and veg plants? fairy can't be healthy to consume surely?
Wash them again as water will clear the outsides.
Gary Pilarchik will the plant absorb any of the chemicals?
FV, you should go to leave under the ground where everything believed to be organic.
how often can I attack the aphids with the spray
if the soap is on the low end, daily.
Just use organic soap like Dr.Bonner organic soap.
Omg will those little flies go away if I spray my basil plants with this?
+Osiris 12 OIl sprays can be used for fungus, small mites or insects. Depends on the oil. The soap is always a dispersing agent.
How often should I spray with this to my citrus plants?
Check out his other vids, he's got a huge collection of stuff to see but I think once every two weeks does the trick. If you overdo it you can hurt the plant
Thanks for the pointer. :)
Hello
Hi Gary, in this video you speaks of one teaspoon to a gallon and in your recipe you stated one tablespoon to a gallon. Can you help to clarify. Thanks,
Yeah brain cramp. 1 tablespoon of Neem per gallon. Enough soap to break up the oil so it disperses
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Fudge i heared neem oil is good for the plants when theres infestation so i sprayed my whole vegetable garden!!! No testing ☺😅😢
Yeah, I learned the hard way with not testing years ago. Hopefully things will be ok
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Do you reapply the oil after it rains?
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anyone else uses syringe for measurment purposes
I haven't tried it.
who has time for test spray???
Well it takes 48 hour but who has time to replant if the sprays damage the plants?
Not dish soap
hot melt gun 110V
Thank you so much
You are welcome.