Elite ship scale video 2021 edition
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Well it took a while to produce but here it is. About as definitive as I can get! If I've missed something, its too late now!
So here's the latest ship scale video. its got as much as I can cram into an 18000+ frame render that took 5 days to complete across 7 PCs. You eagle eye'd viewers will spot some mistake I've missed but here it is. Please enjoy!
Finally.... the size comparison returns and this time with stations, fleet carriers and all the other things! Nice work on the video
and a banana
@@OzoneLead as well as supreme leader david
I love these videos so much, have been seeing them evolve over the years. I quite like the Panther Clipper design concept, except I feel the cockpit should be at the top - a little like the Anaconda in style. The original Panther Clipper had that royal balcony view...
Someday I’d love to see a size comparison between Elite ships and stations alongside X4 ships and stations.
Thanks for making it!
The T7 looks like its entire top section should just open wide so you can load and unload entire multimodal cargo containers.
T7 in yellow IS the magic schoolbus!
This shyt is Bananas!
❤
1:45 that is larger than I thought
You forgot the Ocellus Station bruh
Seeing a Nav Beacon’s scale in context feels like those pictures you see of people posing next to traffic lights.
Space walk for nav beacon selfie1
It's nice to see that a sense of scale for these ships was important to someone other than me. The only reason I picked up Odyssey was so that I could get it and walk around my ships, kick the landing gear as it were. And thank you tons for including the panther clipper! Here's hoping for 2022 it drops in the game. It was after all mentioned on galnet as a possible for this year.
It won't. #minimumeffort #noshipinteriors
#banningpeopleforcritizm
@@TheSpaceCowVA frontier have just lost there way 110%
Frontier already said ship interiors are not planned or being worked on. If that's the only reason you got Odyssey, ask for a refund.
@@neonspark707 You don't need ship interiors to be able to walk around your ship...
@@Timberwolf69 No, but it's enough of a want that players are making them in other games, like Space Engineers.
"Fine, I'll do it myself."
It would be really neat if at the end there was an average red dwarf star just to show how truly tiny all these are compared to the vastness of the cosmos
or sol!
a literal dot
@@Codename_Horizon probably less than a pixel, not even visible
Indeed
Seeing as the largest ships are say, 15x ish the size of an aircraft carrier, and you can’t really see that very good from space on earth anyways, seeing it compared to the sun would mean it wouldn’t even exist lol
It's so frustrating that a game about spaceships has gone three years without them adding a new ship.
Panther clipper when
There are already a lot of ships in the game. I'd rather dev time is spent on other things than more ships. EVA / spacewalks would be my preference for next feature.
I'd be happy with some variants based on the existing ship hulls. For example a type 9 varient with better handling but less cargo etc.
Exactly, give us more ships to grind for!!!! Seriously the best time I had playing was moving up through the ships until I got the corvette, then I went through engineering my favorites while mining making billion... Just sorta don't have any motivation to do anything else.
@@MrRocksW agreed. New ships are cool and all but they really don't add much value to the game imo. I would also like to see them do some balancing with the existing ships cuz there are some that are currently quite useless.
After a year of playing, I have only experienced a quarter of the ships. I would say that we have enough for now. Let them develop other aspects of the game. The new on-foot stuff is an essential new direction and was always a bit of a gap in the Elite galaxy. Thankfully, now being addressed.
Absolutely wild that an Asp is as big as a 747.
I fly a conda mostly and im always blown away when I see it next to smaller ships lol its enormous
It doesn't feel like that. And the main reason is because cockpits are comically large
One thing I've grown to dislike about Elite's ship design since watching one of the older ship scale comparison videos, is how huge some of the cockpits are.
Especially on something like the Lakon ships. It makes the ships look way smaller than they actually are, because you expect the cockpits to be roughly human sized.
Makes even less sense when you remember that A-Grav isnt a thing in Elite, while a wide open cockpit isnt a death sentence in zero g, still really inconvenient if you get stuck away from the walls or handhold. No reason for the cockpits to be so tall, the exploration ships makes sense for the canopy to be HUGE, but no so tall you could stand 3 people ontop of each other and still not touch the ceiling.
@@MJRSoap Type-9 bridge be like a 2 story apartment XD
@@MJRSoap Also space is a consideration for irl boats and you would expect sci-fi ships to be compact as well.
Not just that. It's completely at odds with how tiny your cockpit is when you are actually in it.
Think of it more as a small bridge/command deck instead of a cockpit.
I love seeing how big my Python is by comparison to everything else. My ships not too small either :p
#noshipinteriors
Come to star citizen we are better
@@TheSpaceCowVA na
@@TheSpaceCowVA I'm not going to a game where I have to spend thousands of my own money for a basic ship.
@@TheSpaceCowVA nobody cares
and the Cobra Mk3. For a small ship it sure is wide! All the better to strap a bunch of beam lasers to and cause enemies to die via overheating, though.
Orbis Station: "I am the largest!"
Thargoid Titan: "Are you sure about that?"
I know it's too late for now, but you are missing the larger variant to the Ocellus/Orbis station. Two HAB rings, cargo area, and its LONG. So long that if you drop into the instance behind it, you have a real chance of either hitting it or being INSIDE the rear section. Gotta be upwards of 7km in length.
Sometimes I would approach stations from the front but still fly right through the station thanks to lag.
He could also put the gardian beacon there….
Also the Coriolis variant with the Noob Hammers. (i.e. those long boom arms coming out both sides.)
Also the Flight operations carrier, and some of the non dockable structures and megaships. Would also be neat to get a scale of an average sized planetary outpost
A masterful piece of work. The only item which I could perhaps recommend including in next year's version is a mug.
Specifically a Hutton Orbital mug...
The final scale should the the distance from Alpha Centauri drop to Hutton Orbital.
The 1 ton mug hell yeah! Though I think it's supposed to be cases of them but either way lol
@@ssjsjb headcanon: Hutton Orbital mugs are made of ultra-dense stellar remnants
@@bethtargett4304LOL No that would be Mjolnir, Thors Hammer. But in actual lore they are forged from the parts of failed FSDs. Sorry to geek out there. LOL
It is clear that the task to add interiors is beyond their capabilities. Some of these larger ships are on par with an 890 jump in Star citizen and that is literally a flying hotel interior. There is just no way in hell the old Cobra engine can do that let alone get it to consoles...even next gen.
I think its possible
@@lacrak27 anything is possible. It doesn't mean it is something fdev are going to do and they are on record stating they are NOT working or plan to work on ship interiors. If you want ship interiors, play a game that has them DAY ONE.
I know they are not gonna do it, I'm just saying that it is posible (although difficult) to do
"Current Gen" I believe is possible. The previous PS4 and Xbox1 gen. No
@@AJZulu true, I was talking about pc
Lovely to look at and a joy to listen to. The Blue Danube is timeless and suits this perfectly. The legacy of 2001: A Space Odyssey lives on! Thank you for your time spent in making this.
Love these!!
Thanks for creating a new one :) o7
Я единственный, кто удивился, увидев panther clipper? Very Huge
если присмотреться то "я его слепила из того что было" борта передней части от vulture , крыша части от т9. тем временем на вики давно валяется картинка пантер-клиппера здорового человека.
Мне понравился, особенно будет круто если боковые двигатели будут поворачиваться при манёврах, смущает только, что стиль корабля больше похож на верфи Лакон, а не Зоргон Петерсон
@@Cactus-y5l на вики тоже боковые движки аля keelbeck
The Farragut battle cruiser is by far the nicest and most badass looking ships in the whole game.
That would be its baby the federal Corvette
Battleships are also mentioned in the game - they are larger than battlecruisers and are capable of striking planets, but they are not represented in the game, not even a concept.
damn the cockpits are huge wtf
I have never played this game but im installing it right now
I was thinking about this series a few days ago. Specifically wanted to see how fleet carriers compare, and damn, the Drake is larger than I thought! Expected the capital ships to be bigger. Great stuff.
Oh no... You missed a little thing: there is another bigger security drone that can be found in high security outpost, it even has shields...
Oh well. too late now!
I guess you can't possibly have everything and you will always miss something no matter how hard you try, but still this is pretty much it. Very good
On the subject of missing things, there's also no Ocellus-type station.
@@preferredimage gotta do it all over again, sorry
@@DragoCubX The Ocellus is pretty much an orbis with a short arse.
I like this compares. A Targoit individual is showen too. For a long time I asked myself, how they look like. I love the Elte Ships so much.
Now I can't unsee my asp Explorer being a 747 doing rolls and space drifts shooting the lasors at rocks.
Imagine how taxing it would be for planet Earth to have an anaconda enter its asmophere
Absolutely love how detailed these models are. Well done!
#modelsherearebetterthanfrontier change my mind lol
Pretty sure the models are extracted from the game files.
out of curiosity, where do you get the models used in this video? Do you rip them directly from the game files, or is there some place that I could download the .fbx of them from?
I suspect extraction of game assets, or conversion really as game assets seem unpackaged. Might be some guidance out there on the old googlewebs..
@@DobbsyLondon see I've been looking for something like that, all I can find are the low-poly sculpts people made for 3D printing. None of them have the detail like the models in this video do.
I think the guy does 3D modeling and VFX, if were ripped assets from the game, the video's be taken down real quick.
Thank you so much, I love this stuff. I wish there was a view of the ships only maybe put in 2 lines
Pilot's model under the Guardian Fighters:
ayy lmao
I like the Panther Clipper model! Too bad it's still unavailable in the game.
I don't think there an official model, so it will probably look different when it is in the game
@@Rossilaz58 I do believe you are right. That said it would still be cool to get said ship in game at some point. Though apparently it has been in the game files for years and still has yet to be implemented so I doubt we will ever see it.
Makes sense to the in-game lore to add it - all these loaded sole traders whizzing around in tarted up Type 9's and Cutters, surely they'd be clamouring for a company to develop a Large pad max hull
@@jamesmiller113 If I'm remembering correctly, the Panther Clipper existed in previous Elite games.
@@Light-hawk aye it was, but you can lore it up with some kind of galaxy-wide ban or, (topically) a parts shortage...
Can you update to include Thargoid motherships?
You need to ad a Dockable Mega ships and star distoyers and I do like a fleet Carrier And I do like a Farragut class ships but a drake class ship I like even more sold get me a free fleet Carrier for my research in elite dangerous commander Colin satan dog
I just have to ask, but the small humanoid images that appear under the Ram-Tah experimental fighters are Guardians? if so did you created them? or took inspiration form somewhere? The thargs are clearly from the leaked arts some time ago, but i have never seen concepts on Guardians...
I believe there's official artwork of Guardians. It's not in game but we know what they looked like based on Ram Tah's research. Pretty sure the Thargoid is speculation. It's based on a leaked model but by the time we see them they could be different.
@@om3g4888 I am aware of the description in Ram Tah investigation, was part of the first discovery of the data fragments at the time. But i have never seen oficial artwork made from that descriptions, in the models on the video y see some resemblance but lack dinstinctive details like the forearm spikes... So i am very corious of the origin of the design
Incredible work! I've loved the previous size comparisons, and even though there really haven't been any new ships to compare, I loved seeing size comparisons between larger constructions like fleet carriers and outposts!
Lmao. Imagine paying tens of thousands of real world dollars for digital ships in a game that will never be finished.
WowL ԅ( ͒ ͒ )ᕤ
True can you imagine the types of losers who do that
Holy crap nav beacons are that huge???
this 2021 verision is not even outdated yet
It’d be cool to see a size comparison that includes the wire-frame ships from the earlier games for ships that never returned in Elite Dangerous… I immediately thought that when the panther clipper showed up!
Awesome video as always!
Great idea but I don't think they ever documented the ships sizes IRL did they?
@@preferredimage The Krait Lightspeeder and Asp Mk II's dimensions are in the Elite 1984 handbook
I know this is the definitive version, but if you ever do an update I'd love to see some of those weird floaty space things in here - the alien mollusc space-whale thing, especially, but also the big crystal spike thingies. You could also add those Thargoid cities/bases/whatever they are. Awesome video as-is, though.
Beautiful work. Would love to know more about how the models were created. Thanks for the time you invested and for sharing this.
Clipper should be a medium size ship....
YOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! HE UPLOADED!! :D
man, great job. Could you tell me more how you do it? How do you collect the models? What software do you use? I'm very curious to know what technique you use.
Thanks for making it obvious that my T9 should in fact be able to fit through the mailslot. You owe me a new excuse! ;)
What? There’s a cobra mark IV?
ok am reinstall this game...
Things missing, (not much): Thargoid Medusa, Basilisk and Hydra. That one interceptor shownb looks very much like a cyclops, if i remember correct the dusa and the hydra are larger. Im not sure if the basilisk has only different colors or has also a different model.
u could also include the Orthus Variant which acciedentally appeared once at Palins Base in Maia as well as the different shaped medusa variant which appeaared in one betas in the past.
And then theres also the Occelus Stgarport missing.
*ahem* you forgot the Ocellus Starport..
They really failed to express the scale of the ships with their designs. The Windows just keep getting bigger.
This was extremely satisfying to watch. The music, the visuals, & scale comparisons. It was both informative & relaxing. Awesome production!
Every time you release one of these videos, my heart absolutely sings. Never ever stop! ;-)
5:05 Holy Shit that thing is MASSIVE, its so big it could have its own Hangar Bay but for small ships instead of Fighters...getting that through the mailslot will be 99% impossible...
its a chonker alright! but just fits the slot and more importantly, just fits the landing pad and lift.
@@preferredimage The Panther looks highly detailed, and consistent with the landing pad and mail slot size, so it is the biggest possible build that can enter and land. It looks very realistic. Is it a fanart, or do you have "source"? :)
@@Neo-vz8nh Oh its a kitbash by me. made from mostly T9, T10 and T6 parts. There's a hint of vulture in there if you look closely! Its about as big a volume as you can get into the ship dock which is kinda what the panther was. A massive shipping container with an engine.
@@preferredimage Yes, it is the size of the L landing pad, maximising its area, the exact size which i imagined. Very nice work. It would be kinda cool if the real Panther would be like similar. I just hoped there is some source or leak, that would show that it is coming. :)
@@Neo-vz8nh I tried to go with a design that looked like the original Panther! preview.redd.it/izqxa3c4fcv01.jpg?auto=webp&s=2da9c2f2b656b9b6ca1d4ff66013523a79bb8d81
Woooo! Dam I remember the first time I saw the OG scale video, great stuff man
BEAUTIFUL! THANK YOU!
Panther Clipper??? ← ↑ Comment for algorithm + 👍 'd
#OldManPaxus Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆
THIS IS SO COOL
did u miss the ocellus station?
This video by itself explains why fdev doesn't want to do ship interiors. It would take forever, and look even worse than star citizen
This is a beautiful video, I loved the music, it's a very well-made comparison with beautiful models and presentation. I did notice something about the ships themselves that confuses me, and it's due to the game's creators, not Mat. Most of these ships have glassed-in 'cockpits' the size of large rooms, and it really throws off the sense of scale... especially considering they are all fairly small 'single pilot' cockpits in-game. The Scarab through the Condor have 'reasonably' sized cockpits, based on the amount of 'glass' visible, but starting with the Taipan the 'glass' shown is increasingly oversized compared to any useful amount of cockpit space... and all much larger than the 'actual' cockpits you pilot from in the game.
The Viper is an excellent example of this, showing the Space Shuttle above it, which has a five-person flight deck in a smaller space than the Viper's glassed-in cockpit... which in-game holds a single pilot comfortably, with little room to spare. Among the larger ships, the Panther Clipper is the only one to have an exterior glassed-in volume appropriately scaled to the in-game cockpit volumes. The Lakon Type 7 Transporter is especially egregious in this respect, having a very distinctive exterior glassed-in area that is at least five meters tall, three wide, and three deep, with the volume of at least forty-five cubic meters... the size of a large living room... which in-game is represented as a tall-ish single-pilot cockpit of perhaps three by two by two meters (12 cubic meters, about 1/4 the size it appears in the external view)... the size of a large closet.
In VR, the Viper's cockpit appears larger than on screen (same with other ships), but at some point during the production, ship scale must've been adjusted retroactively for some obscure reason.
5:44 - *FORTUNE Carrier*
There she is, my favourite carrier; looked bulky and assimetric.....just like me 😊
That it is absolutely amazing. I cannot comprehend how much time and effort went into the making of that video, but, I do appreciate you doing it. Cheers.
They get these models directly from game and place them on scale map. That is all.
@@leonisM. Unless the camera work is automated, this should've taken quite a while to make.
F dev 1: Sooo... Where do we put the landing gears?
F dev 2: .... But in the same place as the engines of course!
F dev 1: ... What?
If there is a 'next' if these, maybe throw a generation ship in or two. Might be interesting
Gotta find more bigger stuff out there first. Maybe a Guardian Ark, if those are still around. And maybe get the Asteroid ships as well!
Sometimes I truly miss playing ED. Getting stoned and rolling out in my suped’ up Orca; picking up dignitaries and stupidly rich tourists and jetting them across the bubble into dangerous; often times nefarious situations. Bringing them home alive “and unscanned” and getting me filthy fucking rich. But alas; console has been abandoned. O7 commanders; it was a pleasure out there with you…
not to be nitpicky but no ocellus or megaships?
EDIT: I think you also got carriers mixed up, nautilus is definitely the longest
Elite ships tend to have oversize cockpits, spoils it a bit.
Yeah, I just noticed it - All of the ship designs seem "off" until I realized they ALL have the cockpit in the same size relative to the rest of the ship, which makes them look indentical in scope until you have a different ship next to it for comparison.
Yup. It's a lazy technique to avoid details
7:15 Space Loach! :D
THANK YOU SOSOSOSOS MUCH NOW I KNOW TO BRING A TAPE MEASURE TO TESCO AND GET AN AMAZING DEAL (every little counts ;) )
really though amazing vid
Would love to see the next one include the thargoid titans and hunters
Oi Oi Saveloy. How are you doing man? It's Austin (previously of Redditch). Didn't know you were into ED. o7
So Panther Clipper.... missing from the days of Elite 3...... and very overdue
I'm gonna call that beautiful gorgeous sexy hunk of a ship after the Beluga Liner the Lakon "Type 12 Star Freighter" and pray to God ED takes your advice and implements both it and the Panther. Or if they can't put the Panther in, substitute it with your model and call it a day
The banana size is debatable, and we have not seen the measurements in banana numbers! 🤣
Only thing I would change on the video is the spotlight time on each ship from 2 seconds to 4, that aside, still gets my thumbs up. 👍
That Panther Clipper looks more like LAKON design than Zogon Peterson to me.
Agreed. My Panther was design to use as much physical volume as possible with the landing pad, garage and mailslot. Frontier's making it a zorgon design where half the space was wasted didn't gel with me considering the design in frontier: elite 2.
@@preferredimage My theory is Zogon Peterson want to get in big ship industry.
But they some what lack of large ship design experience, hence lack of large Zogon Pterson large ship in game.
So them buy the design form LAKON whom has many large ship design experience, and build it themselves.
Should replace the banana with an X-Box One and PS4, since they don't exist in the game anymore either... :-(
Have you tried doing a size comparsions between the character and Ships inside Odyssey ? Some people were saying that some of elite ships are close to the size of Star Citizens biggest ship 890 but to me some of them look bigger in Odyssey than any of the SC ships except for the SC capital ships of course. The federal Gun ship in Oydssey looks about the same size as 890 in SC while the defender looks bigger than any SC ship I've seen . Maybe the scaling is off but that would make a fun video.
Docking permission requested...
Docking permission accepted.
Wonderful! :)
Though when I saw that spoiler on the Panther clipper!
I did chuckle...
Should have kept zooming in until it was a note bearing the words “your chance of actually finding raxxla”
I love these comparison videos! I hope you will find the time to do another one at the end of the year with the four new ships, the Scythe and Glaive and of course the Titan included 🙂
Not sure what ED does with the scale but the type 9 even though it has length of 117m feels smaller than the C2 hercules from SC
Same thing with the SC reclaimer 155m of length but feels extremily larger than the corvette at 167m
If there’s one thing I learnt from this video, it’s how big limpet drones are.
Fleet carriers are 825m in height and the Burj Khalifa is 828. Think about that the next time you land one.
@Map Recardo, hi again, can I talk about some models? About structural data and for recreation (as fan made versions)
Ппц, а Брабен дизанера не пробовал нанять? Это же убожества вбольшинстве своём ((
I'm not a "gamer" so I guess it is not surprising that I do not recognize a single one of these ships 🤔??
If you had the right contacts in the movie or game industry, you could create your own ships and be paid to do so. You are definitely over qualified for such an endeavor 🤑.
Holy shhit that is panthrr clipper? I through panther is that concpet which is very similar to a cutter (sistership). And this concept looks like it will give a head start to the cutter and type 9-10 in the category of flying space brick.
These cg models look so good! 😮 Never realised quite how big some of the "smaller" ships were.
The banana was a great help!
Nice vid but you could also put the gardian beacon next time…
Up to a certain point and some shipbdesigns are okay and some are really aweful to read a proper scale from. Its weird, that some ships look like singleseater ships but are 100+ m long, etc.
Really need to work on those scales.
Did you make these models yourself or were they extracted from the game files? I want to make a 3d Printed model (or two) of my favourite ships, but need a source for the meshes.
My favorite ship - Banana made by TESCO
I love it, would like a comparison to battleship, aircraft carrier, etc.
how did you get those models? I'd love to 3D print some :o
I see they added more ships from when I played the game in the 80's, I am going to have to buy the new version.