Asus has updated the warranty for their OLED gaming monitors to now include 2 years of panel burn-in coverage. This applies to the PG34WCDM, PG49WCD, PG27AQDM, PG48UQ, PG42UQ and upcoming models like the PG32UCDM. You'll see the change in the specification tab on Asus product page, so you can refer to that for warranty claims in the future
Does anyone know how to get the audio through from the OLED panel and the audio channel output from my computer? I never had an issue outputting from an old 4k tv and getting the built in speakers too, but if I try on this panel it's just a pass through and does not give me both outputs, which is a shame, cause the built in speakers are pretty good.
Tim, your monitor reviews are quickly becoming the English-speaking world's go-to for reliable information. That is no small feat. You should be proud of the immense respect you're cultivating in this space. I will not purchase a monitor without checking here first and that is a 100% guarantee. Well done! Bravo sir, bravo.
Actually this review was completely worthless because it tells you NOTHING about the actual problems with this display. It's just another advertisement. He doesn't mention the random black frames/flickering this monitor does FOR EVERYONE with two eyebrows who can actually SEE PHOTONS in reality. WORTHLESS. Imagine praising a junk review of a monitor that doesn't even mention that it RANDOMLY DISPLAYS BLACK FRAMES. geezus
@@youtubesuresuckscock My dude, you're one angry fellow. Tim & Steve's integrity aren't in question. They come to defence of consumers time and time again. I'm sure that if Tim was made aware of this issue, it would have surfaced. Hell, it could still surface. I seriously doubt he's a shill.
His video is very good I admit that but he is not a world's go-to for reliable information. That would be Linus Tech Tips or JayzTwoCents. His Views or subscribers are basicly not big enough to call him a information source for the whole world.
Pull back the praise by about half and, realistically, yes, HU does a great job. Did he mention the heat sink in this monitor that aims to reduce burn-in risk? Did he address RTINGS report of unacceptable input lag at 60fps? These monitor reviews sometimes run on an auto pilot of charts, graphs, and tech speak that we hear in every HU review. I’ve watched nearly every one and feel they could improve the context at times, especially if their review isn’t first to market. The RTINGS finding about input lag would be a deal breaker for many, especially as OLED doesn’t inherently have this issue. RTINGS believes it’s a processing issue it’s this monitor. Getting HU’s take on this claim is why I watched this video.
I never have enough of these videos, because let's face it, primary interface is the monitor. It's the one most important piece of the whole setup. Pick whatever GPU you want, if screen is bad it's wasted money. Pick a great screen, and on your next update you'll benefit more from it.
Couldn't agree more. Went from a Hanns-G 1440x900 office monitor to an Asus VG248H 1080p75Hz monitor to a TUF Gaming VQ27AQ 1440p144Hz monitor and the improvement each time was truly massive. A good monitor is essential. Hell, often a cheap TV can be better than some of the terrible budget monitors out there.
Had this bad boy since mid-September. It's great! Went from a 1440p IPS panel and the upgrade is amazing. I'm still in awe of all the lovely, rich details of games and movies. Deep blacks still surprise me. Definitely a worthy purchase for a first time 4K/OLED PC gamer. :)
Same! But I upgraded / maybe not an upgrade from the PG35VQ. 200 HZ, HDR10, GSYNC ULTIMATE, 3440X1440 ULTRA WIDE, but I am still loving this monitor! Higher resolution, but less HZ, but an OLED. I honestly can say the OLED has better brightness and blacks but NOT by much! This monitor is great with my RTX4090! I don't plan on getting rid of the PG35VQ though as both have a time and place! Both amazing monitors
Since this comment is a year old, I'm curious. Have you used this as a desktop monitor as well as gaming and have you had any issues with burn in at all?
First of all, massive props to Tim for pouring so much time in scripting these videos. Best monitor reviews on RUclips! The PG42UQ is €1750 in my country (The Netherlands), while the 42" C2 is €899, literally almost half the price.
@@alexusman it doesn't matter if display supports variable refresh rate. Some monitors can go below as 24 Hz but almost all of VRR supporting monitors supports at least 48 Hz. If video is 24 FPS it would set itself to 48 Hz, if it's 30 FPS then sets itself to 60 Hz.
I bought one of these day one. It is a beautiful monitor. I use it in my office. I also have a living room gaming PC that is hooked to my 65" LG C1 panel. Both are stunning. I really love the PG42UQ's array of inputs and also the heatsink on the back. I waited very impatiently for this monitor hoping it would live up to the hype. It delivers in spades. The only thing I don't like is the pixel-cleaning pop-up you get after 8 hours of use. I'm hoping someone figures out a way to disable that. Otherwise, this is easily the best monitor I've ever owned.
Something I haven't noticed in the comments section normally - thank you so much for highlighting the panel finish - whether it's glossy or matte! As someone who likes glossy finish a lot it's a shame to see that not being adopted by many monitor manufacturers, it's always good to know what our options are.
I remember many years ago i thought "it MUST have a matte finish, how will i even live with an gloss oled TV ?!?!?!?" And now i can say for sure the glossy screen is better. It reflects a flashlight about 3 Times weaker than an anti glare panel. Just tested it this morning 😓 and thats just one aspect.
matte finish is an instant dealbreaker for me, watch this comparison video with over a million views and you'll see why: ruclips.net/video/3mTV1TOblbA/видео.html
ho wow I hate glossy finish with a passion nothing worse than having to be in a pitch black room to not be able to shave myself in my monitor ugh .... e.g. the secondary image of me in my monitor moving around is annoying
@@whismerhillgaming true, i took my light controlled rooms for granted. You mentioned your reflection and Its also true! But i got used to the faint dark mirror image because it fades away whenever the screen is in use. 👍
Having owned this monitor for about a month now and using it 8 hours a day for my day job (software dev), I have to say it's been amazing, but Tim is right in that this is going to be very dependant on your preferences and what you value. Personally, the built in 4 port USB3 hub, uniform brightness mode, proper monitor sleep support, threaded camera mount and other features are things I value quite highly. However, again, Tim is spot on in that in many ways, this doesn't really fundamentally offer a vastly different experience to a C2, which can be had for a lot less money and is much easier to find. The firmware for this screen have also been pretty ropey so far, no single version has yet to nail everything at the same time but hopefully this will get ironed out pretty soon. I'm only using it at 60hz at the moment - waiting to upgrade my old 1080Ti, so I've only briefly tried HDR and 138hz, but I'm really looking forward to giving them a proper go...
Same I have had mine for 3/4 weeks and use it 8 hours a day doing Sysadm then gaming afterward. It's incredible and all the people that think the C2 is close don't use their C2 as a monitor. It's £1400 but I spend 5000 hours a year in front of it so its nothing in the long term Edit: I pay £53 a month for this monitor 0% interest free. It costs less than my Pixel 6 (Overclockers UK)
Is the text clarity an issue compared to IPS monitors? I'm thinking of getting an oled panel for media/games but would probably spend the majority of time on work(coding).
I've been waiting months for this screen, finally got one. I've been using a 40" Samsung 4K TV for years, I like the form factor. TV was only 60hz, so having 120hz now is great. For me, when I turned down brightness the text got significantly better for regular PC use. Basically anywhere over 60 in the brightness setting is very usable for me, over 90 is too bright. For working at home, I can fit everything I want on the screen at once, and for gaming it's excellent for strategy/4X games that I play. Shooters are good, buy I know some people like smaller screens. RPGs and MMOs are immersive at this size. And it you want widescreen this panel can force it, with unlit black bars since it's OLED.
People underestimate how reflective the C2 is. If you have any kind of light in front of the tv, you will see reflections, almost like a mirror. Even an RGB keyboard placed in front of the screen will cause reflections. Also the TV will shine light onto the top of the desk which will reflect back into the screen (depending on the color of your desk), so no matter what you will still get distracting reflections on the C2.. The C2 is really not good as a monitor because of that.
The most impressive thing on display here is Tim's ability to say monitor names in quick succession or at all... I'm pretty sure barcode scanners would be envious :-)
Here in Denmark the C2 is ~910 Euros and the PG42UQ is almost twice as expensive at ~1680 Euro (both with VAT). There really is no choice at that point. C2 is just much better value. Thanks for the great review!
There are always these 40+ inch behemots and curved 32" OLEDs or wharever that Samsung uses, but why isn't there what people really want: 30-32" 4K gaming monitor with straight panel, deep blacks and 144Hz or more. Why make everything else than what market wants?
@@MauroTamm Yes, but considering the terrible pricing of monitors compared to televisions, it really doesn't have to be extremely cost effective to be highly profitable.
Samsung uses VA panels with really bad viewing angles. The curve is absolutely necessary with those panels to preserve image quality on the edges of the screen. There are no 32" 4K OLED panels from LG because the W-OLED tech they use doesn't scale well to such a high DPI. Manufacturers know very well what the most popular monitor sizes are, and they would absolutely produce OLED panels at those sizes and resolutions if it was feasible and made financial sense to do so.
@@konga382 This. Curve is actually boon with VA panels as it almost eliminates the horizontal gamma shift. That and as you usually use monitors up close so the curve does not really cause picture geometry issues. Hell it may even reduce them in bigger screens when viewed up close. And we will get smaller OLEDs when LG manages to make them cost effective to produce. LG's WRGB OLED panel is the only sensible option to use as a monitor as it is more resistant to burn in compared to the normal pentile or RGB oleds which you see in smaller screens and phones.
I'm glad you're going to be using this channel again, I love your reviews and content on this channel and was getting worried that it was being forgotten!
An excellent review as always, Tim! ... I do plan on upgrading to a 4K OLED, but no monitor yet has the specifications I'm looking for. Hopefully there will be a no-compromises model by the time the next generation of graphics cards comes out in a couple years, to drive games at high fps on it.
Just a few days ago I've stumbled upon this monitor and was surprised to see that you guys didn't have a review done for it yet. Very cool to see that one is up now!
For me PG42UQ is 1800 Euro, while C2 OLED is 900 Euro, my choice was a nobrainer LG C2 wich im uber satisfied! Also semi glossy finish on C2 is amazing!
@@Shadowsmoke11 Maybe I'm wrong but previous C2 I had a QN90B from Samsung and i could not stand the reflection i got from it! My room is semi lit so i have no issues with C2
This monitor is £1400 in the UK (if you can find one). I got the C2 for £945 and much prefer the glossy screen. The Asus matte screen makes the blacks look grey and grainy when there's light present. I just got some blackout curtains for my gaming room and the C2 looks awesome.
@@imadecoy. I have seen the matte finish on both the Asus and the Alienware AW 3423DW which is a little less extreme. I didn't like it on either...and saved £450 by opting for the LG C2!
With these pixel responses you'd think they could make a 240hz one. I have to say, I'm still waiting for 32" 4k 240hz oled monitor, preferably with quantum dot conversion layer.
Why people continue to praise the LG C2 as a PC monitor is beyond me. I returned the LG C2 a week later, it is the WORST possible choice to use as a PC monitor. You got it totally backwards. The PC can't power manage the TV like it can a monitor, you have to manually turn it on off which alone is a deal breaker. You have to change all your settings, no fast boot, auto dimming is annoying as F and not seamless at all. Post processing due to it's TV features is not welcome in a monitor. Wonky ass menu is so daam cluttered and slow as F.
Good review, I've had my eye on this monitor for a while. I'm used to using 3 monitors, so switching to one big monitor makes me hesitate to buy it. I wish there was a 32" version so I could replace my main monitor and still have some place for my two other monitors. As I look at the comments, there are many who desire a 32" OLED 4K 120hz+ gaming monitor as well, but there are none.
Update: I'll be going with the LG Ultragear 48GQ900. However, for those interested since CES 2023 and Computex many companies have announced new OLED monitors in 27", 32" and 34" formats which is good for gaming, all very pricey though
for ABL on LG C2, I found quite a nifty way to deal with it, without disabling anything on the service menu. So, first up, just crank the pixel brightness to 100, then go to windows HD color setting, enable HDR. After that, scroll down on that HD color setting, and you'll see HDR/SDR brightness balance. I just turn it down to 0. This way, ABL don't really kick in when watching youtube or something because the TV thinks that you're displaying dim content while in reality you're limiting brightness through windows. You'll get much dimmer picture in SDR though, but things will kick in again once you display HDR content.
OLEDs are great,BUT, and its a big BUT, the O in OLED stands for Organic, meaning by design, it's designed to deteriorate over time and lose its performance. To many focus on the burn in issue and forget the organic part. LG rates it's OLED at 100,000 hours of use. We need Mini and Micro LEDs tech to make more advancements and lower costs to produce.
Agreed . Sadly OLED looks amazing and is cheap. Add to that the content creators all pushing these units. It’s crazy right now that any mini led is so much more. In Canada this monitors is 1899. Meanwhile a Samsung G8 MiniLed 4K 240 hz is 1499. If the MiniLed was the same size It would be 3500-4000.
@@illumin8tedphoenix343 heya so at visions here in Canada that TV specifically is 1598 right now. Comparatively they sell the 42 C2 (which blows it away) for 100 less lol. I wonder how similar the QN90B tv is to the Samsung G7/G8 32 monitors. Yes the monitor is literally the same price as the 43 inch tv but Dp1.4 etc has value. I’ve only got a 3080ti so 120hz is all I need lol. Maybe the G7
@@choocharoo I was just on Rtings, they rate both the Neo G8 (240hz) and Neo G7 (165hz) so it comes down to budget and use for you. Me personally I don't game on PC so I'm more focused on console, PS5, was considering them both for desktop PS5 gaming, both being 32" was appealing, but the QN90B much cheaper for me. Good luck on your choice
@@illumin8tedphoenix343 an okay that makes sense why your looking at the tv then. Ya I’ve seen reviews of the ps5 etc on the Qn90b and it rocks. I am lucky enuff to own ps5 and series x. They are setup in my bedroom on a lg cx. The image is soooooo good but I baby it. Can’t do that on a PC use case thus why OLED for PC is dangerous. Our main tv is a Q8FN (bright room) so was looking at the QN90B as a upgrade. Don’t get me started on TVs and why all their top tech goes into 8k in 2022 and beyond. Essentially 4K and TVs is basically OLED or settle for 2nd best. 8k tvs are the top and all severely overpriced. Happy hunting.
2.5 years later and still no burn in on my CX with ~8h of daily normal desktop use (browsing, gaming and light office use, no work). I can highly recommend it. I would even buy one if burn in was guaranteed after 2 years and I had to get a new one because it's just that good and worth every penny.
I love the fact that the Asus has a matte screen coating. I don't care if it makes it look slightly better, the reflections from a glossy screen drive me crazy and it's not worth it to fight with light sources or only watch at certain times of day just for a slightly improved picture. Shame it costs so much more than what is practically an identical screen, though.
have the 48" model, contemplating returning it. the sleep wake up bug is just too hard to ignore. It takes from 3 to 5 min to wake up from sleep. And the firmware is 1 version behind the 42" which also suffer the same problem.
I wish he would've at least mentioned the big heatsink Asus has added for the OLED panel, because it may truly help reducing risk of burn-in Other than that, great video!
Great review. I do although wish that there was a separate video talking about using the PG42 and C2 as desktop monitor, some of the practical issues. I.e., when PC go to sleep the TV won't turn off right away and other things similar that could potentially be frustrating or things to think about.
I was one of the first to get one of the PG42UQ monitors, but the speakers just exploded the first time I tried to test them and had to return it. I'm now trying to decide to keep the C2 42" or the QN90B to avoid the burn-in. I wish you had put this out before I jumped on the ~$1500 (after taxes) price. Luckily, the Samsung and LG were both $1080 (after tax) and are both fantastic, just gotta pick which one I'm keeping.
I bought a C2 when it was discounted.. I am never going back to plain monitors again.. Wow, the responsiveness, the colours. The experience... Once you go perfect black, you never get to go back.
I have had one since there were released. I really enjoy this monitor. I am looking forward to the next firmware update though to solve some issues. I chose this over the C2 for the matte finish - I use it as my daily driver/work monitor and I am in a well lit room so the shinier screen of the C2 would not be great for me personally. It still look fabulous. I also chose this for the Display Port input and the increased refresh rate. But Tim nails the differences pretty clearly here - and choose what fits you the best! Thanks Tim.
How many months have you had it and how are the pixels going? I also still want to do productivity on it but will need to implement the anti-burn in features. I agree, I love the matte finish because I don't want to look at myself all day in the reflection in any area that has light lol. As Tim said the matte finish doesn't affect the black levels at all.
@@damienmason3807 Had it since Sept. I daily drive it. I mitigate burn in as much as possible - I use the built in features plus transparent task bar that hides, etc. Fine so far. It will pop the pixel refresh reminder if I have played for an extended time. All good so far.
@@gregchapman5435 Cool thanks good to know. I've been looking for a new PC (4090 with 13th generation) and monitor for two months trying to get the right combo. The 138hz maximum is a bit low just don't want the 4090 to be wasted on that lower refresh rate. I looked at the new LG 45" curved 240Hz monitor but with a pixel density of only 83, it would be tragically sh#t for text clarity.
Thanks for the comparison,I am considering LG C3 and Asus PG42UQ as soon as I realised Asus has matt coating I wrote it off.I absolutely hate the washed out dull look of displays with matte coating. The reflection issue of glossy screens can easily be mitigated,but you can’t do anything about the inferior colours and contrast of matte displays. Now it’s time to sell my Alienware AW3423DWF! (I never liked ultrawide and it’s low resolution!)
Great review. To me, the point of contention here is price. In most European countries, this monitor is around or above 1500€, while finind the LG C2 around 1000€ is not impossible. So, the price difference is so high, that you can basically buy a new GPU to get hdmi 2.1 with the price difference, and you should have a pretty modern gpu anyway to drive a 4k 120(+) hz display. If the price was closer, like 100€ of difference, it would be pretty compelling, especially if you have annoying reflections to deal with: angle adjustment stand and matte finish will make wonders in that case. But with such a big difference, it's a no go for me.
I’d note that those who’ve owned both this and the C2 have opted to stick with the C2 and save a chunk of change (see Reddit). The value proposition just isn’t here at all on this display.
i Have since 2 days Lg OLED C2 and RTX 3090 TI MSI ... Its insane and Best for Desktop and Gaming its just insane ... LG C2 Rules.. No need Monitor anymore.. the Quality is insane... on OLED Gaming and Desktop use. And no worries its very bright... 10 / 10
I want an OLED released, that is a monitor and a TV in one. I also like the idea of a QLED, that again, is a monitor and TV in one. I want to be able to have the choice of weather I turn on the TV or OLED, with out requiring me to turn on the pc automatically.
Maybe we will have a 40" ultrawide OLED in 2023 with some real resolution and 160hz. That would be my dream. Oh yeah and needs to be able to sustain normal desktop brightness.
I've been looking forward to this video, thank you! Great video as always. In Germany the price difference is even higher. 1.7k€ for Asus against 1k€ for the C2...
They really messed up with the only having the anti glare. I only buy glossy panels. At least the choice would have been better. They should have defaulted to glossy and if they wanted matte; make it an option.
can they just make us a 27" oled monitor, 1440p and 4k versions. I dont get why anyone who sits at a computer desk would want anything bigger than 32" and even then that's too big imo. Unless youre gaming from across the room, whats the point of these 42"+ screens?
It seems that blue phosphorescent OLEDs are the key to increasing brightness and stability to negate the one primary disadvantage of current OLED technology. Also, if RGB OLEDs can eventually be scaled to larger sizes, then that subpixel layout structure would be ideal for maintaining text clarity.
ASUS has the ASUS ProArt PA32DC which has an RGB subpixel layout, however it costs $3500 and only does 60hz, but it is a great monitor for art based creators as it's 32'' size gives it a very good pixel density and being RGB, has the best color accuracy of any OLED on the market.
Yeah, picked up C2 on sale for $900 and in US, Asus is still MSRP. Can't really justify 50% higher price. Would have loved grabbing the monitor instead of C2 but hey, can't beat the price.
Having switched from an IPS to the C2, I have to say that text clarity definitely is an issue especially early on. You absolutely need to find the right scaling setting, as 100% @ 4K is also usually much to small. That being said, once you iron out the worst kinks, discord is a big offender here, you get used to it pretty quickly. Some scaling issues remain, especially in older windows applications like installers, but that seems to be a big problem with 4K in general. ABL on bright websites is very noticeable still, but you can either disable HDR for normal windows use, or use dark mode (dark reader addon for browsers
I'm in the market for an oled 4K gaming display,everyday I check reviews for different models & I always look for your review of that particular model. You're doing gods work lol. Hopefully you do the review for LG Ultra Gear 48gq900-B next. Cheers!
Ive had my LG C2 for a year and have a weird type of burn in. If I pull up paint and fill the whole screen with certain colors, I definitely see shapes of different brightness. The OLED panel care where it shuts off for 10 minutes does not fix it, nor does leaving it off overnight. I have had it on 24/7 for the past year though, and have the OLED picture movement option turned on.
Great review, and if it weren't for the fact that I spend a lot of time with static elements on my screen, thus making the risk of burn-in feel too great, I'd grab one in a heartbeat.
Hey Tim. Really hope you see this... Any chance you could reach out to Asus on this model pretty please? The washed out HDR experience is ongoing and support are being impossible to deal with. Rtings retested the latest firmware V033 and the issues with washed out HDR & not waking up in 138hz OC mode are still present. Would really appreciate your help please...
I bought the LG C2 and thought I would return it because I wouldn't like the dimming issue and the glass reflections. To my ultimate surprise I fell in love with it. I never even noticed the reflections because the picture quality was so overwhelming. I actually liked the auto dimming because I work with a white screen and I ALWAYS enable the "night light" feature on Windows, so the dimming was great for me. I really could not believe that I enjoyed the TV so much. The burn-in scares me a bit, but NOTHING is perfect.
Same experience as well with my 42 c2 that I got on sale for $999 vs the Asus that I had originally been targeting. I'm using the TV on an entertainment center in a small room vs desk use. Blows every panel I've had out of the water and has been a great purchase
The VESA mount would definitely see some use on this for me instead of the foot. And the matte surface of the screen would be a given for me, I hate reflections of any kind.
You really need to revise the power consumption testing, if you can add another power consumption test on top of the current one or just straight ul replace it that would be great.
I have the C2, i like it alot more. I always sit in a dark room and even when i open the curtains the reflections are not even that distracting. Amazing HDR experience
Thanks Tim for the hard work. It is appreciated. Glad to hear this channel is being resurrected. I'm currently in the market for a large Oled for PC gaming.
I can only agree with the other comments, your monitor tests are really great. I was about to buy the Asus PG42UQ after your review. Then the new Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 came on the market. Now I'm really curious if the Philips might be a little better. Hence my question, is a test of the Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 already planned? I would be very happy about that. Thank you and keep it up.
The Asus also has a heatsink on the back of the panel which is supposed to act as additional burn-in mitigation. It's also $2299 AUD, which is $500 more than the C2 here in Australia. :P
The heat sink needed more coverage in this review, I think. Another reviewer showed that it reduces temperatures of the screen significantly, so should be a good burn in prevention measure.
Had the monitor for a month, only complaint is waking up from sleep doesnt work on my 3090 if i have 138Hz OC enabled. Asus says theres a FW fix coming ~2 weeks. Using it as a 2nd monitor with a black background, gaming and watching vids on it with a "desktop" and "gaming" presets with different brightnesses and protection settings. All static stuff like taskbar+icons are usually on my 35" 21:9 wide monitor.
If only most monitors didn't have a big logo and overdesigned stand. And i can't use matte displays anymore. Glossy anti reflecltion coating on LG and Samsung have gotten way too good.
I thought I was going to hate the glossy of the 42" C2, never used glossy monitor before. Turns out this is the most refreshed/good feeling my eyes have been in a while. Guess matte was always giving me a bit of strain.
@@DRC92 I turned the problematic one off through service menu. But there is still a little bit ABL if your whole screen is white (very rare), but barely notice it. It's not that big of a deal for me. The alternative was spending $500 more for the Asus and the trade offs being not getting an easy/cheap store burn in warranty, tv features, or glossy coating.
Any issues in terms of productivity use? Mainly text clarity compared to IPS panels. I'm looking to get an oled as my next monitor but hear mixed opinions for work use. Is it something you can get used?
i got the LG C2 42" for 769€ (with discount + LG cashback) in Finland. Asus costs 1699€ .This LG is excellent in desktop use and i will never change back to anti glare displays again. Asus "OC" 138hz is the only advantage compared to LG. Im suprised that LG has better input lag. Also LG is smart tv after all so you can use it as "normal" TV.
Asus has updated the warranty for their OLED gaming monitors to now include 2 years of panel burn-in coverage. This applies to the PG34WCDM, PG49WCD, PG27AQDM, PG48UQ, PG42UQ and upcoming models like the PG32UCDM.
You'll see the change in the specification tab on Asus product page, so you can refer to that for warranty claims in the future
I'd like to see a review of ASUS ROG Swift PG38UQ. There is little information about it in the tests, thanks
Does anyone know how to get the audio through from the OLED panel and the audio channel output from my computer? I never had an issue outputting from an old 4k tv and getting the built in speakers too, but if I try on this panel it's just a pass through and does not give me both outputs, which is a shame, cause the built in speakers are pretty good.
Tim, your monitor reviews are quickly becoming the English-speaking world's go-to for reliable information. That is no small feat. You should be proud of the immense respect you're cultivating in this space. I will not purchase a monitor without checking here first and that is a 100% guarantee. Well done! Bravo sir, bravo.
Actually this review was completely worthless because it tells you NOTHING about the actual problems with this display. It's just another advertisement.
He doesn't mention the random black frames/flickering this monitor does FOR EVERYONE with two eyebrows who can actually SEE PHOTONS in reality.
WORTHLESS. Imagine praising a junk review of a monitor that doesn't even mention that it RANDOMLY DISPLAYS BLACK FRAMES.
geezus
@@youtubesuresuckscock My dude, you're one angry fellow. Tim & Steve's integrity aren't in question. They come to defence of consumers time and time again. I'm sure that if Tim was made aware of this issue, it would have surfaced. Hell, it could still surface. I seriously doubt he's a shill.
His video is very good I admit that but he is not a world's go-to for reliable information. That would be Linus Tech Tips or JayzTwoCents. His Views or subscribers are basicly not big enough to call him a information source for the whole world.
HUB and rtings are what I usually go to for monitors
Pull back the praise by about half and, realistically, yes, HU does a great job. Did he mention the heat sink in this monitor that aims to reduce burn-in risk? Did he address RTINGS report of unacceptable input lag at 60fps? These monitor reviews sometimes run on an auto pilot of charts, graphs, and tech speak that we hear in every HU review. I’ve watched nearly every one and feel they could improve the context at times, especially if their review isn’t first to market. The RTINGS finding about input lag would be a deal breaker for many, especially as OLED doesn’t inherently have this issue. RTINGS believes it’s a processing issue it’s this monitor. Getting HU’s take on this claim is why I watched this video.
I never have enough of these videos, because let's face it, primary interface is the monitor. It's the one most important piece of the whole setup. Pick whatever GPU you want, if screen is bad it's wasted money. Pick a great screen, and on your next update you'll benefit more from it.
Facts, the monitor is the most important part of the build
@@xph1lthyx698 Yep people just think about PC specs and forget that the monitor is literally the thing you look at.
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Couldn't agree more. Went from a Hanns-G 1440x900 office monitor to an Asus VG248H 1080p75Hz monitor to a TUF Gaming VQ27AQ 1440p144Hz monitor and the improvement each time was truly massive. A good monitor is essential. Hell, often a cheap TV can be better than some of the terrible budget monitors out there.
Same thoughts here
Had this bad boy since mid-September. It's great! Went from a 1440p IPS panel and the upgrade is amazing. I'm still in awe of all the lovely, rich details of games and movies. Deep blacks still surprise me. Definitely a worthy purchase for a first time 4K/OLED PC gamer. :)
Same! But I upgraded / maybe not an upgrade from the PG35VQ. 200 HZ, HDR10, GSYNC ULTIMATE, 3440X1440 ULTRA WIDE, but I am still loving this monitor! Higher resolution, but less HZ, but an OLED. I honestly can say the OLED has better brightness and blacks but NOT by much! This monitor is great with my RTX4090! I don't plan on getting rid of the PG35VQ though as both have a time and place! Both amazing monitors
12 months in and I love my PG42UQ. Firmware issues are sorted and I replaced my HDMI 2.1 cable that was making it flicker during hard gaming.
Since this comment is a year old, I'm curious. Have you used this as a desktop monitor as well as gaming and have you had any issues with burn in at all?
First of all, massive props to Tim for pouring so much time in scripting these videos. Best monitor reviews on RUclips!
The PG42UQ is €1750 in my country (The Netherlands), while the 42" C2 is €899, literally almost half the price.
That's a 120Hz instead of 138, but indeed not worth it volgens mij ;)
240Hz all the way!
Even when ASUS products are good, they consistently represent poor value.
@@Garrett1974 120hz is better than 138hz gimmick as 120 can be divided by 30/60 and 24 thus you don't have frame pacing problems when viewing videos.
@@alexusman it doesn't matter if display supports variable refresh rate. Some monitors can go below as 24 Hz but almost all of VRR supporting monitors supports at least 48 Hz. If video is 24 FPS it would set itself to 48 Hz, if it's 30 FPS then sets itself to 60 Hz.
@@iseeyou1312 Yes
I bought one of these day one. It is a beautiful monitor. I use it in my office. I also have a living room gaming PC that is hooked to my 65" LG C1 panel. Both are stunning. I really love the PG42UQ's array of inputs and also the heatsink on the back. I waited very impatiently for this monitor hoping it would live up to the hype. It delivers in spades. The only thing I don't like is the pixel-cleaning pop-up you get after 8 hours of use. I'm hoping someone figures out a way to disable that. Otherwise, this is easily the best monitor I've ever owned.
Something I haven't noticed in the comments section normally - thank you so much for highlighting the panel finish - whether it's glossy or matte! As someone who likes glossy finish a lot it's a shame to see that not being adopted by many monitor manufacturers, it's always good to know what our options are.
I remember many years ago i thought "it MUST have a matte finish, how will i even live with an gloss oled TV ?!?!?!?"
And now i can say for sure the glossy screen is better.
It reflects a flashlight about 3 Times weaker than an anti glare panel.
Just tested it this morning 😓 and thats just one aspect.
matte finish is an instant dealbreaker for me, watch this comparison video with over a million views and you'll see why: ruclips.net/video/3mTV1TOblbA/видео.html
ho wow I hate glossy finish with a passion
nothing worse than having to be in a pitch black room to not be able to shave myself in my monitor ugh ....
e.g. the secondary image of me in my monitor moving around is annoying
@@whismerhillgaming true, i took my light controlled rooms for granted.
You mentioned your reflection and Its also true! But i got used to the faint dark mirror image because it fades away whenever the screen is in use. 👍
Having owned this monitor for about a month now and using it 8 hours a day for my day job (software dev), I have to say it's been amazing, but Tim is right in that this is going to be very dependant on your preferences and what you value.
Personally, the built in 4 port USB3 hub, uniform brightness mode, proper monitor sleep support, threaded camera mount and other features are things I value quite highly.
However, again, Tim is spot on in that in many ways, this doesn't really fundamentally offer a vastly different experience to a C2, which can be had for a lot less money and is much easier to find.
The firmware for this screen have also been pretty ropey so far, no single version has yet to nail everything at the same time but hopefully this will get ironed out pretty soon.
I'm only using it at 60hz at the moment - waiting to upgrade my old 1080Ti, so I've only briefly tried HDR and 138hz, but I'm really looking forward to giving them a proper go...
Same I have had mine for 3/4 weeks and use it 8 hours a day doing Sysadm then gaming afterward. It's incredible and all the people that think the C2 is close don't use their C2 as a monitor.
It's £1400 but I spend 5000 hours a year in front of it so its nothing in the long term
Edit: I pay £53 a month for this monitor 0% interest free. It costs less than my Pixel 6 (Overclockers UK)
Is the text clarity an issue compared to IPS monitors? I'm thinking of getting an oled panel for media/games but would probably spend the majority of time on work(coding).
Is it only released in The US? Can’t find this monitor anywhere else
@@gelul12 Im from the UK and bought mine from overclockers uk
I couldn’t find it in stock, picked up c2 for 999 from Best Buy on sale. Absolutely love it, using the smart tv apps more than I thought I would.
I've been waiting months for this screen, finally got one.
I've been using a 40" Samsung 4K TV for years, I like the form factor. TV was only 60hz, so having 120hz now is great.
For me, when I turned down brightness the text got significantly better for regular PC use. Basically anywhere over 60 in the brightness setting is very usable for me, over 90 is too bright.
For working at home, I can fit everything I want on the screen at once, and for gaming it's excellent for strategy/4X games that I play. Shooters are good, buy I know some people like smaller screens. RPGs and MMOs are immersive at this size.
And it you want widescreen this panel can force it, with unlit black bars since it's OLED.
People underestimate how reflective the C2 is. If you have any kind of light in front of the tv, you will see reflections, almost like a mirror. Even an RGB keyboard placed in front of the screen will cause reflections.
Also the TV will shine light onto the top of the desk which will reflect back into the screen (depending on the color of your desk), so no matter what you will still get distracting reflections on the C2..
The C2 is really not good as a monitor because of that.
I'm grateful to LG with the C2. for the price quality ratio this TV is simply fabulous for any use even gaming on PC. Bravo LG
I returned the c2 for this Asus Rog blew it out the water
The most impressive thing on display here is Tim's ability to say monitor names in quick succession or at all... I'm pretty sure barcode scanners would be envious :-)
The HUB Essentials Checklist is incredible! It shows exactly how you can't trust marketing numbers. Wow... I had no clue they were _that_ wrong.
Here in Denmark the C2 is ~910 Euros and the PG42UQ is almost twice as expensive at ~1680 Euro (both with VAT). There really is no choice at that point. C2 is just much better value. Thanks for the great review!
There are always these 40+ inch behemots and curved 32" OLEDs or wharever that Samsung uses, but why isn't there what people really want: 30-32" 4K gaming monitor with straight panel, deep blacks and 144Hz or more. Why make everything else than what market wants?
Yup I don’t want anything over 32” on my desk and i don’t want curves…not much out there for us
Cutting motherglass into larger panels likely has better yields right now.
@@MauroTamm Yes, but considering the terrible pricing of monitors compared to televisions, it really doesn't have to be extremely cost effective to be highly profitable.
Samsung uses VA panels with really bad viewing angles. The curve is absolutely necessary with those panels to preserve image quality on the edges of the screen. There are no 32" 4K OLED panels from LG because the W-OLED tech they use doesn't scale well to such a high DPI.
Manufacturers know very well what the most popular monitor sizes are, and they would absolutely produce OLED panels at those sizes and resolutions if it was feasible and made financial sense to do so.
@@konga382 This. Curve is actually boon with VA panels as it almost eliminates the horizontal gamma shift. That and as you usually use monitors up close so the curve does not really cause picture geometry issues. Hell it may even reduce them in bigger screens when viewed up close.
And we will get smaller OLEDs when LG manages to make them cost effective to produce. LG's WRGB OLED panel is the only sensible option to use as a monitor as it is more resistant to burn in compared to the normal pentile or RGB oleds which you see in smaller screens and phones.
I’m using LG C2 42” for two months as my monitor. I just love it. It’s perfect.
I'm glad you're going to be using this channel again, I love your reviews and content on this channel and was getting worried that it was being forgotten!
I definitely prefer the glossy screen. I can work with controlling light sources for a noticeably better picture.
An excellent review as always, Tim! ... I do plan on upgrading to a 4K OLED, but no monitor yet has the specifications I'm looking for. Hopefully there will be a no-compromises model by the time the next generation of graphics cards comes out in a couple years, to drive games at high fps on it.
Just a few days ago I've stumbled upon this monitor and was surprised to see that you guys didn't have a review done for it yet. Very cool to see that one is up now!
For me PG42UQ is 1800 Euro, while C2 OLED is 900 Euro, my choice was a nobrainer LG C2 wich im uber satisfied! Also semi glossy finish on C2 is amazing!
"Semi gloss"? Isn't C2 regular gloss? I know the Alienware QD-OLED monitor is semi gloss though.
@@Shadowsmoke11 Maybe I'm wrong but previous C2 I had a QN90B from Samsung and i could not stand the reflection i got from it! My room is semi lit so i have no issues with C2
Make it 32" and I'm in.
Great review, Tim, as always.
LG is reportedly releasing 27" and 32" Gaming OLEDs next year btw
That's good
This monitor is £1400 in the UK (if you can find one). I got the C2 for £945 and much prefer the glossy screen. The Asus matte screen makes the blacks look grey and grainy when there's light present. I just got some blackout curtains for my gaming room and the C2 looks awesome.
Fortunately the position of my room barely gets direct sun-light (maybe 1 hour a day), so the C2 was an easy win for me.
I also hate matte filters, they make every monocolor region look grainy. They should provide the matte filter seperately as an optional snap on
@@organicmechanic2477 I also have little sunlight in my room and at night with all the lights turned off the C2 looks gorgeous
If you really think that you haven't seen the matte finish on the Asus
@@imadecoy. I have seen the matte finish on both the Asus and the Alienware AW 3423DW which is a little less extreme. I didn't like it on either...and saved £450 by opting for the LG C2!
With these pixel responses you'd think they could make a 240hz one. I have to say, I'm still waiting for 32" 4k 240hz oled monitor, preferably with quantum dot conversion layer.
it's a connection bandwidth issue ; not many physical cables and electronics can process pixels at that rate.
Why people continue to praise the LG C2 as a PC monitor is beyond me. I returned the LG C2 a week later, it is the WORST possible choice to use as a PC monitor. You got it totally backwards. The PC can't power manage the TV like it can a monitor, you have to manually turn it on off which alone is a deal breaker. You have to change all your settings, no fast boot, auto dimming is annoying as F and not seamless at all. Post processing due to it's TV features is not welcome in a monitor. Wonky ass menu is so daam cluttered and slow as F.
Good review, I've had my eye on this monitor for a while.
I'm used to using 3 monitors, so switching to one big monitor makes me hesitate to buy it. I wish there was a 32" version so I could replace my main monitor and still have some place for my two other monitors.
As I look at the comments, there are many who desire a 32" OLED 4K 120hz+ gaming monitor as well, but there are none.
Update:
I'll be going with the LG Ultragear 48GQ900.
However, for those interested since CES 2023 and Computex many companies have announced new OLED monitors in 27", 32" and 34" formats which is good for gaming, all very pricey though
i have xg32uq, 4K 32" fast IPS 160hz, I won't change soon, and it won't burn
for ABL on LG C2, I found quite a nifty way to deal with it, without disabling anything on the service menu. So, first up, just crank the pixel brightness to 100, then go to windows HD color setting, enable HDR. After that, scroll down on that HD color setting, and you'll see HDR/SDR brightness balance. I just turn it down to 0.
This way, ABL don't really kick in when watching youtube or something because the TV thinks that you're displaying dim content while in reality you're limiting brightness through windows. You'll get much dimmer picture in SDR though, but things will kick in again once you display HDR content.
Thanks for the advice.
OLEDs are great,BUT, and its a big BUT, the O in OLED stands for Organic, meaning by design, it's designed to deteriorate over time and lose its performance. To many focus on the burn in issue and forget the organic part. LG rates it's OLED at 100,000 hours of use. We need Mini and Micro LEDs tech to make more advancements and lower costs to produce.
Agreed . Sadly OLED looks amazing and is cheap. Add to that the content creators all pushing these units. It’s crazy right now that any mini led is so much more. In Canada this monitors is 1899. Meanwhile a Samsung G8 MiniLed 4K 240 hz is 1499. If the MiniLed was the same size It would be 3500-4000.
@@choocharoo Samsung QN90B 43" (mini led) here in the UK is now £799, I'm not waiting for black Friday, black Friday pricing is already here, lol
@@illumin8tedphoenix343 heya so at visions here in Canada that TV specifically is 1598 right now. Comparatively they sell the 42 C2 (which blows it away) for 100 less lol. I wonder how similar the QN90B tv is to the Samsung G7/G8 32 monitors. Yes the monitor is literally the same price as the 43 inch tv but Dp1.4 etc has value. I’ve only got a 3080ti so 120hz is all I need lol. Maybe the G7
@@choocharoo I was just on Rtings, they rate both the Neo G8 (240hz) and Neo G7 (165hz) so it comes down to budget and use for you. Me personally I don't game on PC so I'm more focused on console, PS5, was considering them both for desktop PS5 gaming, both being 32" was appealing, but the QN90B much cheaper for me. Good luck on your choice
@@illumin8tedphoenix343 an okay that makes sense why your looking at the tv then. Ya I’ve seen reviews of the ps5 etc on the Qn90b and it rocks. I am lucky enuff to own ps5 and series x. They are setup in my bedroom on a lg cx. The image is soooooo good but I baby it. Can’t do that on a PC use case thus why OLED for PC is dangerous. Our main tv is a Q8FN (bright room) so was looking at the QN90B as a upgrade. Don’t get me started on TVs and why all their top tech goes into 8k in 2022 and beyond. Essentially 4K and TVs is basically OLED or settle for 2nd best. 8k tvs are the top and all severely overpriced. Happy hunting.
2.5 years later and still no burn in on my CX with ~8h of daily normal desktop use (browsing, gaming and light office use, no work). I can highly recommend it. I would even buy one if burn in was guaranteed after 2 years and I had to get a new one because it's just that good and worth every penny.
Any burn in yet?
I love the fact that the Asus has a matte screen coating. I don't care if it makes it look slightly better, the reflections from a glossy screen drive me crazy and it's not worth it to fight with light sources or only watch at certain times of day just for a slightly improved picture. Shame it costs so much more than what is practically an identical screen, though.
have the 48" model, contemplating returning it. the sleep wake up bug is just too hard to ignore. It takes from 3 to 5 min to wake up from sleep.
And the firmware is 1 version behind the 42" which also suffer the same problem.
Can't wait for the Mini LED display review
Thank you Tim for the outstanding display reviews !
Wish there were more choices in the 30" monitor range. Either 27" or 42" and above. Such as a small choice at the 32" range.
please review the Sony 42 inch OLED 🙏
nice review as always
Looking towards upgrading my current main monitor and this video has motivated me to purchase. Thank you!
I'm using a 55 inch lg tv as a second monitor, and would love if it had matte finish instead of glossy. I prefer the softer image matte gives
I wish he would've at least mentioned the big heatsink Asus has added for the OLED panel, because it may truly help reducing risk of burn-in
Other than that, great video!
X for doubt
@@DrakonR heat ages things quickly so the science is sound but it has been proven that oled ages better with good cooling -edit autocorrect
@@dominicbeltz9057 give it a shot and see. The temperature difference between this and the C2 is negligible.
Not only that but asus offers 2 year warranty where as lg is 1.
@@sspringss2727 doesn't mean anything when extended warranties exist.
Thanks Tim 👍
Now, when will someone release the 32" 4k 120hz+ OLED technology panel I'm waiting for? 😬
The Samsung neo g8 is as close your gonna get, but it’s rumor their making a OLED probably next year seems duable
LG said they are starting to make one soon. So maybe in 6-12months? I recommend everyone wait, instead of buying these shitty tv's
Yes 32 inch would be the perfect size for 4k
Great review. I do although wish that there was a separate video talking about using the PG42 and C2 as desktop monitor, some of the practical issues. I.e., when PC go to sleep the TV won't turn off right away and other things similar that could potentially be frustrating or things to think about.
Can you review this one? -> ROG Swift 360Hz PG27AQN NVIDIA® G-SYNC® esports Gaming Monitor - 27‑inch QHD (2560 x 1440), NVIDIA® Reflex
No, sorry
And also a request for the new 280Hz 1440p Alienware aw2723df :)
Why did you copy a full product name listing, including the registered symbols?
Also an FYI, Reflex has nothing to do with monitors.
There’s a channel on RUclips “Bijan Jamshidi”, he tends to do gaming monitors and may already have done it
No!
A lack of so-called smart TV features is always a plus in my book.
I was one of the first to get one of the PG42UQ monitors, but the speakers just exploded the first time I tried to test them and had to return it. I'm now trying to decide to keep the C2 42" or the QN90B to avoid the burn-in. I wish you had put this out before I jumped on the ~$1500 (after taxes) price. Luckily, the Samsung and LG were both $1080 (after tax) and are both fantastic, just gotta pick which one I'm keeping.
Have the Alienware AW3423DW and absolutely love it. The best gaming PC monitor I've ever seen or used
Owning the LG and seeing the PG in person.
Gloss screen is just far superior in visaul pop of an oled.
You have a choice.
Pick your poison.
I bought a C2 when it was discounted.. I am never going back to plain monitors again.. Wow, the responsiveness, the colours. The experience... Once you go perfect black, you never get to go back.
@Doomguy lol miserable aren’t you!
@Doomguy 6k hours on my c1 and no burn in. Cope and seethe with your bottom of the barrel monitor.
@Doomguy Imagine being so broke that you keep the same monitor so long that you get burn ins.
I have had one since there were released. I really enjoy this monitor. I am looking forward to the next firmware update though to solve some issues. I chose this over the C2 for the matte finish - I use it as my daily driver/work monitor and I am in a well lit room so the shinier screen of the C2 would not be great for me personally. It still look fabulous. I also chose this for the Display Port input and the increased refresh rate. But Tim nails the differences pretty clearly here - and choose what fits you the best! Thanks Tim.
How many months have you had it and how are the pixels going? I also still want to do productivity on it but will need to implement the anti-burn in features. I agree, I love the matte finish because I don't want to look at myself all day in the reflection in any area that has light lol. As Tim said the matte finish doesn't affect the black levels at all.
@@damienmason3807 Had it since Sept. I daily drive it. I mitigate burn in as much as possible - I use the built in features plus transparent task bar that hides, etc. Fine so far. It will pop the pixel refresh reminder if I have played for an extended time. All good so far.
@@gregchapman5435 Cool thanks good to know. I've been looking for a new PC (4090 with 13th generation) and monitor for two months trying to get the right combo. The 138hz maximum is a bit low just don't want the 4090 to be wasted on that lower refresh rate. I looked at the new LG 45" curved 240Hz monitor but with a pixel density of only 83, it would be tragically sh#t for text clarity.
What I've been waiting for has finally arrived with great power
All I want for Christmas is a flat 32-34 inch 120hz 4k OLED
Thanks I've been waiting for a while for your review of this!
Still waiting for a 1440p 240hz QD OLED 27 inch flat panel at a reasonable price, that's the dream.
I've been waiting for reviews of this monitor thank you!
Would we be able to get a comparison of the currently available 32" 4k 120-165Hz monitors floating around the market?
Love your work.
LG is reportedly releasing 27" and 32" Gaming OLEDs next year :)
Thanks for the comparison,I am considering LG C3 and Asus PG42UQ as soon as I realised Asus has matt coating I wrote it off.I absolutely hate the washed out dull look of displays with matte coating.
The reflection issue of glossy screens can easily be mitigated,but you can’t do anything about the inferior colours and contrast of matte displays.
Now it’s time to sell my Alienware AW3423DWF! (I never liked ultrawide and it’s low resolution!)
Great review. To me, the point of contention here is price. In most European countries, this monitor is around or above 1500€, while finind the LG C2 around 1000€ is not impossible. So, the price difference is so high, that you can basically buy a new GPU to get hdmi 2.1 with the price difference, and you should have a pretty modern gpu anyway to drive a 4k 120(+) hz display. If the price was closer, like 100€ of difference, it would be pretty compelling, especially if you have annoying reflections to deal with: angle adjustment stand and matte finish will make wonders in that case. But with such a big difference, it's a no go for me.
I’d note that those who’ve owned both this and the C2 have opted to stick with the C2 and save a chunk of change (see Reddit). The value proposition just isn’t here at all on this display.
#1 channel to check when it is time buy new monitor. Cheers!
Tim is the gold standard for monitor reviews. Simply awesome stuff.
I don't find the matte diffused glow any less distracting than glossy sharp reflections.
i Have since 2 days Lg OLED C2 and RTX 3090 TI MSI ... Its insane and Best for Desktop and Gaming its just insane ... LG C2 Rules.. No need Monitor anymore.. the Quality is insane... on OLED Gaming and Desktop use. And no worries its very bright... 10 / 10
I want an OLED released, that is a monitor and a TV in one.
I also like the idea of a QLED, that again, is a monitor and TV in one. I want to be able to have the choice of weather I turn on the TV or OLED, with out requiring me to turn on the pc automatically.
Great review Tim! In my country it costs €1900 (the price of the 65" G2, whereas the 42" C2 costs €800) though, so not an option for me.
Thank you. I've been waiting for this review.
Maybe we will have a 40" ultrawide OLED in 2023 with some real resolution and 160hz. That would be my dream. Oh yeah and needs to be able to sustain normal desktop brightness.
I've been looking forward to this video, thank you! Great video as always. In Germany the price difference is even higher. 1.7k€ for Asus against 1k€ for the C2...
They really messed up with the only having the anti glare. I only buy glossy panels. At least the choice would have been better. They should have defaulted to glossy and if they wanted matte; make it an option.
i was really missing the content on here nice one
can they just make us a 27" oled monitor, 1440p and 4k versions. I dont get why anyone who sits at a computer desk would want anything bigger than 32" and even then that's too big imo. Unless youre gaming from across the room, whats the point of these 42"+ screens?
Can you review the 43" Samsung QN90B Neo Qled as a monitor? It's one of the best lcd tvs and the 43" is 4k 144hz.
Hey there, anyone here found a solution for the hdr problems with the pg42uq since 2-3 firmwares? :)
It seems that blue phosphorescent OLEDs are the key to increasing brightness and stability to negate the one primary disadvantage of current OLED technology. Also, if RGB OLEDs can eventually be scaled to larger sizes, then that subpixel layout structure would be ideal for maintaining text clarity.
ASUS has the ASUS ProArt PA32DC which has an RGB subpixel layout, however it costs $3500 and only does 60hz, but it is a great monitor for art based creators as it's 32'' size gives it a very good pixel density and being RGB, has the best color accuracy of any OLED on the market.
Even in Australia, the price of the C2 easily falls to 1700+AUD often, while the pg42uq is set solid at 2299 and always out of stock.
Just took delivery of mine and the screen was smashed 😢 gutted, new PC I've just built will now have to wait longer
Yeah, picked up C2 on sale for $900 and in US, Asus is still MSRP. Can't really justify 50% higher price. Would have loved grabbing the monitor instead of C2 but hey, can't beat the price.
Just tested 144hz in my LG C2. Works with no issues ;)
Having switched from an IPS to the C2, I have to say that text clarity definitely is an issue especially early on. You absolutely need to find the right scaling setting, as 100% @ 4K is also usually much to small. That being said, once you iron out the worst kinks, discord is a big offender here, you get used to it pretty quickly. Some scaling issues remain, especially in older windows applications like installers, but that seems to be a big problem with 4K in general. ABL on bright websites is very noticeable still, but you can either disable HDR for normal windows use, or use dark mode (dark reader addon for browsers
I kinda disagree. I have the C2 and the dimming is so fucking annoying. Also it is uselessly tall. I'm going back to a 38" ultrawide.
@@sampsalol turn it off in the service menu, works fine on mine and doesn't dim
@@b1gd312 enjoy burn in
@@sampsalol if you had the C2 you'd know about the OLED care and pixel refresh baked in to prevent it.
I'm in the market for an oled 4K gaming display,everyday I check reviews for different models & I always look for your review of that particular model. You're doing gods work lol. Hopefully you do the review for LG Ultra Gear 48gq900-B next. Cheers!
i bought the 48 inch lg oled for 1000 at best buy best purchase ever made!
@@h_3_x_Way too big
Ive had my LG C2 for a year and have a weird type of burn in. If I pull up paint and fill the whole screen with certain colors, I definitely see shapes of different brightness.
The OLED panel care where it shuts off for 10 minutes does not fix it, nor does leaving it off overnight.
I have had it on 24/7 for the past year though, and have the OLED picture movement option turned on.
Love seeing Virtual Japan in your video. That channel has the best HDR content on RUclips in my opinion. Truly immersive videos.
I don't understand why tv companies don't ship with correct color calibration already.
Someone here has a solution for the HDR issue with this monitor? Its washed out..
Great review, and if it weren't for the fact that I spend a lot of time with static elements on my screen, thus making the risk of burn-in feel too great, I'd grab one in a heartbeat.
Hey Tim. Really hope you see this... Any chance you could reach out to Asus on this model pretty please? The washed out HDR experience is ongoing and support are being impossible to deal with. Rtings retested the latest firmware V033 and the issues with washed out HDR & not waking up in 138hz OC mode are still present. Would really appreciate your help please...
I bought the LG C2 and thought I would return it because I wouldn't like the dimming issue and the glass reflections. To my ultimate surprise I fell in love with it. I never even noticed the reflections because the picture quality was so overwhelming. I actually liked the auto dimming because I work with a white screen and I ALWAYS enable the "night light" feature on Windows, so the dimming was great for me. I really could not believe that I enjoyed the TV so much. The burn-in scares me a bit, but NOTHING is perfect.
Same experience as well with my 42 c2 that I got on sale for $999 vs the Asus that I had originally been targeting. I'm using the TV on an entertainment center in a small room vs desk use. Blows every panel I've had out of the water and has been a great purchase
The VESA mount would definitely see some use on this for me instead of the foot. And the matte surface of the screen would be a given for me, I hate reflections of any kind.
You really need to revise the power consumption testing, if you can add another power consumption test on top of the current one or just straight ul replace it that would be great.
I have the C2, i like it alot more.
I always sit in a dark room and even when i open the curtains the reflections are not even that distracting.
Amazing HDR experience
Have you tried both?
@@DRC92 yup i did
At least you didn’t test with V032 firmware, it was bricking some monitors before Asus pulled it.
Thanks Tim for the hard work. It is appreciated. Glad to hear this channel is being resurrected. I'm currently in the market for a large Oled for PC gaming.
Such fantastic, informative videos. Bravo!
I'm waiting the BlackFriday in UK for this boy
Thank you for the review. Would you recommend overclocking to 138hz? Are there any downsides/risks to doing this?
I can only agree with the other comments, your monitor tests are really great. I was about to buy the Asus PG42UQ after your review. Then the new Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 came on the market. Now I'm really curious if the Philips might be a little better. Hence my question, is a test of the Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 already planned? I would be very happy about that. Thank you and keep it up.
The Asus also has a heatsink on the back of the panel which is supposed to act as additional burn-in mitigation. It's also $2299 AUD, which is $500 more than the C2 here in Australia. :P
The heat sink needed more coverage in this review, I think. Another reviewer showed that it reduces temperatures of the screen significantly, so should be a good burn in prevention measure.
Had the monitor for a month, only complaint is waking up from sleep doesnt work on my 3090 if i have 138Hz OC enabled. Asus says theres a FW fix coming ~2 weeks. Using it as a 2nd monitor with a black background, gaming and watching vids on it with a "desktop" and "gaming" presets with different brightnesses and protection settings. All static stuff like taskbar+icons are usually on my 35" 21:9 wide monitor.
If only most monitors didn't have a big logo and overdesigned stand. And i can't use matte displays anymore. Glossy anti reflecltion coating on LG and Samsung have gotten way too good.
I thought I was going to hate the glossy of the 42" C2, never used glossy monitor before. Turns out this is the most refreshed/good feeling my eyes have been in a while. Guess matte was always giving me a bit of strain.
How’s the auto dimming feature?
@@DRC92 I turned the problematic one off through service menu. But there is still a little bit ABL if your whole screen is white (very rare), but barely notice it. It's not that big of a deal for me.
The alternative was spending $500 more for the Asus and the trade offs being not getting an easy/cheap store burn in warranty, tv features, or glossy coating.
Any issues in terms of productivity use? Mainly text clarity compared to IPS panels. I'm looking to get an oled as my next monitor but hear mixed opinions for work use. Is it something you can get used?
@@sm7085 The text clarity issue is completely deleted/removed if you use this at the proper viewing distance (36-41").
Finally xD, was really hoping for you to give this Screen a try xD
I would rather have gloss than hertz just better looking and easier to clean
i got the LG C2 42" for 769€ (with discount + LG cashback) in Finland. Asus costs 1699€ .This LG is excellent in desktop use and i will never change back to anti glare displays again. Asus "OC" 138hz is the only advantage compared to LG. Im suprised that LG has better input lag. Also LG is smart tv after all so you can use it as "normal" TV.