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Dabura WASTED POTENTIAL or just...bad?
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2023
- The video is a discussion on the character Dabura from Dragon Ball, identified as one of the most underrated villains in the series. Dabura, also known as the King of the Demons, was created by series author Akira Toriyama, who reportedly enjoys this character design and has used similar ones in his post-Dragon Ball work. Dabura has been under the control of the wizard Babidi for centuries, acting as his recruiter and minion. He was responsible for scouting Earth as a potential location of interest. Despite his loyalty, he can question his master and has some level of autonomy.
Dabura's unique abilities include petrifying ejection and the use of a weapon, making him a formidable foe. However, his tenure in the main Dragon Ball franchise is surprisingly short, despite his supposed powerful status. After his demise, Dabura's character was transformed into comic relief in the anime. He appeared in heaven, affected by love, and becomes a kinder soul. Despite this transformation, he was not among the resurrected souls, suggesting he still had atoning to do.
The video also mentions that Dabura has some additional appearances in other Dragon Ball media like Dragon Ball Online, Xenoverse, and Heroes. Here, he is given more depth as a villain and has a familial connection with the character Toa. In some versions, Dabura even gets a transformation, becoming Demon God Dabura.
Was Dabura WASTED POTENTIAL or just...bad?
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Its wild to me that the Ginyu's are almost always playable in games, but Dabura rarely is.
If only debura did dance poses
I agree Dabura was wasted potential in Dragonball Z. He could have introduced the Demon Realm to the Dragon Team. He could have become a recurring antagonist and could have played a larger role in the Majin Buu Arc. But unfortunately all that’s done with him is that he is shown to show how Gohan has become rusty in the last 7 years and just dies agianst Majin Buu.
And I think they could have solved all of it by, instead of just having him as *THE* Demon King, having him be *a* Demon King or other super high ranking demon. That would have given them more room to grow up the Demon Realm, and possibly have Demigura as the 'ultimate' Demon King show up in the main branch or some similar character... while still having Towa's arc work, and still have Dabura become a recurring villain in later arcs, as well.
Not in db multiverse
I loved the Fat Buu though. He is a very entertaining character and is the best form of Buu. because he flied in the face of dragonballs usual conventions for a villain after Freeza and Cell and is a perfect example of Toriyama subverting expectations.
I agree. Is there anyone that didn’t immediately love the character and the magic level power he brought to the series. Majin Buu was peak “magic” scaling vs power scaling. But Dabura was like an inbetween that honestly had soo much potential
I think Dabura was an opportunity to see how crazy the afterlife was but we never got that elaboration.
Dabura: *wasted potential*
MasakoX whose expertise in making underutilized characters into remarkable characters in his What Ifs: "It's a free real estate."
I agree. Is there anyone that didn’t immediately love the character and the magic level power he brought to the series. Majin Buu was peak “magic” scaling vs power scaling. But Dabura was like an inbetween that honestly had soo much potential
Dabura was as strong as super perfect cell he was basically just there to show how strong everyone else has gotten since the cell saga
more like how gohan got weaker after cell saga
@@jakubwiktor5874Gohan didn't get that much weaker, he just didn't have the initial rage boost that we saw against cell.
@@jakubwiktor5874He's not weaker. He just didn't have access to the rage boost he had against Cell. In fact, I'd argue his base is actually stronger.
Technically he was only as strong as Perfect Cell and not Super Perfect Cell.
More Bojack level or so.
@@Pastry656
In my opinion Dabura is as strong as super perfect cell when Goku says Dabura is as strong as Cell Vegeta and Gohan don’t argue and then Goku goes on to say Dabura is tougher than he thought also Goku could sense SPC from otherworld
He had interesting design some cool powers and abilities
Definitely better than the rest of Bobbidi’s henchman
Would’ve been nice if we saw more of him absorbed into boo
Yakon was really cool too imo. They probably wouldn't have needed another henchman if they all had to pitch in to overload him.
Either way, I think he’s a prime opportunity for another “What If” scenario.
I feel like a Turned Good series of him would make more sense than characters like Babidi
@@mediadragon2191 Especially considering that, he did turn good. So, the what if, would be more like "What If, Vegeta changes his wish so that Dabura is resurrected along with all the other pure souls after Buu is defeated?"
Cause, for those that do not remember, Vegeta worded his wish in such a way that only the pure innocent souls of those lost during the Buu saga would come back, but, not the evil ones, such as Babidi or Dabura. So, I could see the what going off from there.
Would Dabura find the love and friendship that he desires due to what he witnessed between Videl and Gohan? Would he defend his friends even though he became more of a pacafist than even Gohan?
I could see the What If being based around those questions.
What if Bobidi served Deborah.. ( Deborah uses Bobidi to resurect Boo and ends up taking Boo ( kid boo) to the Demon realm
@@micheleyahm7133 Deborah... oh my lord
What If Towa and Mira saved Dabura from Buu?
To be honest hes was so cool and interesting and powerful wish we could see more of demon realm how he rules and his people feel
Dabura would have been great as a big bad in his own arc. A few underlings our heroes have to fight off first and foremost, maybe a cult trying to bring him to the world. Then whoopsydaisy he is out and causing a rumpus and our heroes defeat him. Could have been a fine villain for Gohan to fight as an alternate arc to the Saiyman stuff. Hey, maybe he stopped Dabura getting out but years later Babidi brought him out and that adds to the spooky scary horror of seeing him in the flesh! Foreshadowing! Foreboding! Wooo!!
You could get multiple arcs out of the demon realm tbh. Like one where Dabura is mentioned or appears but isn't the actual antagonist, instead the antagonist is a much weaker lower level demon. And then a later arc where Dabura himself is the antagonist. Give him an affably evil personality, maybe even have his reason for attacking in the second arc be just business rather than pure evil.
Dabura: *wasted potential*
Xenoverse 2: Imma fix this man's career.
I would love to a see "What if Dabura was good?" Series. That man deserves some love, bro is underrated as heck for being the Demon Realm King.
Dabura is so cool I wish we could get more of him. Maybe he can be the next “turned good” candidate? Even if he doesn’t get that at least the last time we saw him he was happy in heaven.
At least Dabura is not always a yes man to Babidi and that his evil nature is further amplified by the Majin symbol on his forehead.
Whether you like Dabura or not, Masako is *spitting* facts.
It was always a mystery on how dabura was able to be turned by the wizard
Honestly I feel like dabura deserves a bit more love, since he did turn piccolo and krillin in to Stone and it would’ve been cool if he did broke free of babidi’s mind control and assist the Z-fighters on getting revenge.🐱
I would've been fine with him taking over the demon realm again and being a threat. He could even be like Beerus and be a neutral person that could either be an antagonist or a reluctant ally. Imagine the universe at threat and Dabura stepping in and helping the heroes because he doesn't want everything destroyed. And he could have a revived Babidi as his minion.
Dabura was so evil King Yemma sent him to Heaven, believing that the Demon King would enjoy being in Hell.
That's true, I mean wouldn't you have fun in Hell as a Demon King
Love when you got into depth for overlooked characters masako! You're awesome!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤
The Ginyu Force being in FighterZ gave me hope we would get Dabura with Babidi and his other minions as backup
Sounds like you want to do a "What if Dabura was the main villian of the buu saga"
The Fat Boo is great though. Much more interesting than Super or Kid Boo.
I wouldn't mind seeing you show off a what if Dabura joined the dragon team. Like some of the characters that did and saw him in the after life thought of having him as a team member. Would be interesting for sure.
Yeah, he’s definitely wasted potential. It kinda surprised that we never get explored the demon realm nor the characters…
I'd love a Dabura Redemption arc in an upcoming what-if, especially because I could absolutely see it leading into a Towa/Mira plotline as well.
Your videos always make my day Masako! Thanks for all your amazing work!
Suggestion: What if Gohan never stooped training and truly become earths new defender?
@MasakoX Could the next what if be about Dabura please 🙏 like a what if Dabura came back to life and was good maybe?
Borrowing an idea from Salad and your Ginyu/Cheese Brigade story: What If Dabura Survived? Or What If Dabura Was Revived After the Buu Saga?
Dabura also appears in the Super manga. While the anime showed only a brief flashback to Future Trunks' fight against Babidi and Dabura, the manga dedicates a whole chapter to it and then some.
So, here's something I had thought of a while back during a "how would I improve the Buu arc?" brainstorm.
The idea was kinda based on an old what if from this channel, in case anyone wonders why it sounds familiar.
Basically, remember when Buu eats Dabura? He corrupts Buu from the inside and takes control over his body. Not right away. At the end of the arc. After he's had some time, maybe after Vegeta cuts out fat Buu, or maybe when Bee gets shot. This would give him a more direct personality, and a potential goal. Practise with his new powers so that he can conquer this realm.
I think that would have been a much more interesting use of the character, don't you?
The funny thing is the Ox King is actually known as the demon emperor which is apparently even higher than Kings in the hierarchy
I love the petrifying spit and breathing fire abilities
Honestly, I'm surprised that you HAVEN'T done a "Dabura Turned Good" story yet. With knowledge of demons slowly coming out from the games, and the entirety of Super and GT to play in, the time may be right to at least start the early scripting process.
I agree. Is there anyone that didn’t immediately love the character and the magic level power he brought to the series. Majin Buu was peak “magic” scaling vs power scaling. But Dabura was like an inbetween that honestly had soo much potential
Have to appreciate how Toriyama avoided retconning Freeza being the strongest mortal in the universe with Dabura coming from the Demon Realm.
Freeza: "I was serenaded by teddy bears!"
Wait. wasn't HFIL too much like the Demon Realm to be a punishment for Dabura?
along with hercule taming buu dabura was my favorite part of the buu saga and really would've preferred him over buu as the antagonist for the saga instead(even with him getting primal at the end never took him seriously as a threat/overstaying his welcome until the reinventing.) or forming a truce to stop the bubblegum dijinn as i loved his scenes like the way he meditated getting ready to fight.
really loved his legacy in heroes & would love a saga(like with the huge amount of info revealed about dr. gero,the namekians & the saiyans.) of the makai empire appearing with how they have enough shown they could make an arc if handled well as the otherworld is pretty underused and would be cool seeing him & towa/fu as antagonist/possibly reformed.
as silly as it was actually liked him befriending bulma,chi chi & videl(be funny seeing towa's reaction to his anime version.) and him trying to avenge towa after being revived by her(do like she distracted the time patrol to steal the scroll of his death and undo it explaining why she did that instead of just risking it.) only for fu to stop him(wish the series took more of his devil may care attitude from this xenoverse 2 more if he gets added to the main series.).
Dabura is victim of many things, but most of them is prolly change of devil realm in DB during years. We had really few at least, so there is this forgotten hell we seen in movie and in db anime I think too, heaven/hell workers, there are namekians and their creations, which were later excluded from this, there was Garlic senior/junior and their minions and more...
The Demon World sounds like a really interesting realm to explore, but Toriyama doesn't feel like doing it. Looks like the games feel like fleshing that out more than the series.
Dabura is definitely one of those characters that I wish got more screen time. The way he used meditation to hone his power and had an aura of intimidation about him was cool. On top of his strength, he had extremely high intelligence. Having him somewhat betray his master and face off with Buu for how childish/unruly and powerful he was- all because he knew that Babidi wouldn't be able to control him indefinitely and he was too much of a threat to let live- was right on the money and showed his powers of insight were on a different level. I know we'll never know Toriyamas' true vision for the characters' redemption, but even if he returned as a villain that honed his powers after being defeated by Buu and became a major villain again would be awesome.
Dabura could have been a primary saga antagonist, just as with King Cold, as they were both wasted potential in my opinion.
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*HE’S GOKU’S BROTHER!!! flashbacks intensify*
It would be cool to see a What if Deborah was in the ToP
He would get blown away the first 8 seconds
He was pretty menacing in xenoverse which caught me off guard honestly. I'm happy he had that effect.
Man am I surprised to watch the man in the ladder not talking about vroom vroom cars.
Masakox talking about how a villains lackey shouldn't be a main character or how they don't need development, it just made me think about a " What if Cui became good" story.
Bring Dabura back in a what if. He can be Bulma's butler.
At least Heroes used him more and even expand his family with Towa and Fu.
would love too see a story you create about him MasakoX!😄
I actually think that Dabura was under rated. I understand that he was just there to hype how strong Majin buu was similar to how king cold was introduced to be easily defeated to show how much more of a threat the actual main villains of the arc / saga would be ( AKA the androids) But he still had a lot of potential to be a main villain. His power rivaled perfect cell and he had magic to summon weapons by simply speaking, he could turn people into stone with his spit and he is literally a real demon king who probably had legions of demons 😈 that he could have potentially lead to try and concur not only earth but the universe.
I would actually like to see him return either as a stronger villain or perhaps even as a good guy considering that he turned good in the after life.
With Deadbura I like to think that he’s basically a prisoner in his own body. Forced to watch himself be good and unable to do anything about it.
My theory is that the mekaioshin and kaioshin scaling is often flipped unless in the mortal realm. While a mekaio like Dabura is intensely strong for most mortals, they are immensely weak in comparison to lower scaled beings in their hierarchy and rely solely on tactics for instantly removing problems (spit qualifies as a way to get rid of the lower class beings)
A demon realm arc or pair of arcs would have been amazing. First arc is a low level demon antagonist, and Dabura shows up as this affably evil bigger bad that doesn't get involved but severely outclasses everyone. Then for a later arc he gets off the throne and comes at the heroes himself. I'd have the motivation for Dabura going after them be non malicious too. Just business. Maybe he wants the dragon balls for something, doesn't actually want to fight for them, but the heroes obviously don't want him to get his wish. His character design just looks like the kind of guy who'd be a villain but polite about it.
Finally I can say this; I love Dabura. I think it’s the design, maybe it’s the fact that he’s the first demon in DBZ to be interesting, and in that merit (being a demon) he’s so different from his contemporaries. I always wanted to see more from him, like a revenge plot or something.
And how was he NOT in FighterZ? 6 versions of Goku and the devil man gets no respect? Dabura with Babidi as an assist was one of my few requests before all the DLC dropped
You forgot about Syn/Omega Shenron having Dabura's face as well!
^this 👍
What makes dabura compelling is that his design and everything surrounding him screams main villian.
Honestly I would love more Good Boi Dabura. Hell, if you made a series on his redemption/revival after the Buu saga, into DBS, maybe GT; I'd love it.
Plus it'd be ironic since he'd be the second Demon King to turn good - Piccolo being first (although Piccolo Jr. is more like... Demon Prince, his father was a King)
Hm, interesting, i hope we get to see more of Dabura at some point.
I think its cool that the spin offs of time patrol stuff use the demons so much but I wish we had a better writting and use of them.
Masako X,
The Once Strong Evil Demon King Dabura
Was Looking Like, The Biblical Devil
He Had Abilities Spit Stone
&, Fire Breath Attacks
With, Magical Dangerous Weapons
Got, Turned Against By, Babidi
Because He Switch To, Majin Buu As His New Second In, Command Of Terror
On Earth
Dabura Was Changed Happy In The Anime Filler's Fusion Saga By What You Said On, Heaven's Power Reform Him
Maybe, He Should Be Goku's Newest Teammate By, King Yenma's Recommendation
In, Future Battles
So... I was rewatching this and.... "What if Dabura was a Z-Fighter" sounds oddly interesting now....
Or, at least, "What if Dabura was in the Tournament of Power?"
I dunno, I'm a sucker for the redemption arcs. (Seriously, your Raditz, Zamasu, and Freiza what-ifs are some of my favorites.)
Oooooo a new what if. What if Dabura joins in the tournament of power. Would Jeirn be immune to the stone spit?
Well the title of this video does ask a really good question if you as me I'd say that it depends on the point of view of the person that you are asking
When I saw this as a kid, I was so hyped, here was the king of the demon realm with hax abilities even a swordsman was hoping would be epic final boss
Buu was cool even more haax but I think Dabura and his sis leading a demonic invasion into the mortal realm could have been a better final arc
If a Xenoverse 3 ever happened, while there probably wouldn't make sense. I'd love the Demon Race to be available to play. Granted their just pretty much humans with elf ears. But it be fun to have. Especially if you make like Dabura a mentor and reference his "Redemption" in the afterlife of Z. I love him a lot which is also why I like Towa and Mira. Pretty much I like this whole family. Dabura, Towa, Mira, Fu. Fu is probably my favorite of the bunch because Xenoverse 2 kind of just makes him relatable cause hes just a Dragon Ball fan whose like "What if this happened?" I like him better here than what they did with Fu in Heroes but thats a story for another day.
What if Dabura was in the Tournament of Power? Now, I'm curious to see this.^^
yeah i could def see dabura taking on the vegeta/piccolo path to redemption minus a family unless towa gets introduced into the main series.
would be pretty funny if when he fully redeemed himself he became a honorary supreme kai and would make for some pretty awkward interactions between him shin and kabito.
He was definetly wasted potential, XV2 gave something back to him.
- I mean, Dabura is still Demon King, Heroes had Demon Gods that Dabura became one of. But yeah, in Heroes true ruler of Makai is the Dark King...
I think it would have been cool if an alternate universe version of Dabura was introduced as a god of destruction of Universe 7
I honestly don't think Dabura turning good would ever make sense, but he was wasted potential in the fact that it was another bit of Dragon Ball lore that went completely unexplored. Sure the realm of the Kais was explored again with the Goku Black arc, but what happened to all the Supreme Kais and the Quadrant Kais too? Surely all the universes have a version of that, so why was it only Gowazu and Zamasu? And of course I'm not even talking about the topic of the video yet which is the Demon Realm...
Because Toriyama loves setting up interesting concepts, but he's very rarely interested in worldbuilding. I have this same gripe with the concept of the DB multiverse.
@@LupineShadowOmegareally what
Why
Let’s make Dabura now what Raditz was back in 2017!
He's literally the key to explore the Demon Realm and the Makaiōshin. I wish we could see something official about it.
Fun fact: Dabura is a pun for the magic words, "Abra Kadabra!" 🎩🪄
Dabura is interesting given the title he carries. I was always curious if his spit could turn Buu to stone? He definitely deserves his own What If?
Hm. I wonder if we might see a What-If of Dabura being resurrected along with all the other victims of Buu's rampage...
That might change things in an interesting way.
I think if we do get a reimagined version of Dragonball I hope Dabura is sealed within the rice cooker
That begs the question; why didn't Babidi just rock up to Freeza and "Paparapa!" him into submission?
If he could dominate Dabura, Freeza would be a cakewalk.
I always felt like if Raditz had his own Z fighterz that Debura would a part of’em.
2:40 - Someone did the math. If King Cold’s multiplier is the same between his 2nd & true form as his son’s, He’d have a power level of 12 Billion! He was probably stronger than Debura, so they were probably waiting for Buu before trying to take him out.
Id really love to explore the demon world. demon king piccolo, and dabura have been building toward it. Something like the janemba movie, but an arc and good. They have to go through hell for some reason and fight the new demon king.
*Looks at April 1st 2024* Well I will be surprised if this doesn't happen
Anyone else hoping Masako will do a proper what if about Dabura now? 🤞🤞 Here's hoping.
I actually have a what if idea with Dabura,
What if Dabura was faking being mind controlled the entire time?
*sniff sniff*
Smell that? I smell What If potential.
Finally giving him some atention
"Dabura"?
You mean Raditz Mk II.
Cool character idea thrown away after being Worf'd.
I remember Dabura quite well, as in, I remember the breath attack he kept using during his boss fight in the Fuu arc of Xenoverse 2. Not to mention the expert mission. Hated that so much.
if Dabura were in the tournament of power, I wonder how Jiren would react at seeing a demon
It always seemed like a missed opportunity to me that Dabura didn't have some kind of history with Piccolo. We never really got much detail about what Piccolo Sr.'s role as Demon King, and aside from some filler in DB and the fight with DevilMan we saw basically nothing about the Demon Realm. Maybe there was never any association and Piccolo was only ever king of the demonic Namekians, but wouldn't it be more interesting if he showed up, conquered Hell, used a demon army to conquer the world only to be trapped by Mutaito and leaving a power vacuum?
I could see him playing the role of an kinda guide for the Demon Realm not a good guy buy not a bad guy kind of acting as The Devil You Know vs The Devil You Don’t
The fact that Dabura, the King of the Demons, never fought Piccolo, the Demon King, was a waste.
As cool as the idea of Dabura being a part of the tournament of power is, I feel like he’d get immediately eeted out of the arena by Jiren the moment he realizes Dabura’s a demon.
Dabura is the brains behind Babidi. Babidi is not remotely intelligent, he just has overpowered magic. If Babidi just followed Dabura's advice, he'd still be alive
I always saw Dabura as a boring asshole. But after Xenoverse 2, I say him as a goober
Towa and Mira also appear in Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot which you get to fight Mira after fighting enemies shrouded in red dark aura which you then repeat that many times
Do a what if for Dabura in ToP
Imma keep it a buck, we need more of the Demon Realm in Dragon Ball cannon
He seemed to be meant to hint at something more
Please do a ehat if centered around him??!!!
could we get a What if Dabura turned good?....or atleast nicer?
Yeah, I'm considering it myself since I am writing Dragon Ball Oneiron on both DeviantArt and Webnovel. Especially that I am trying to create the timeline Fu and Chronoa wants where everyone is happy in a certain way. I already have many ways in keeping Dabura alive, but the DBZ: Kakarot alternative is a good backup plan depending on how the story goes, but I will put my own spin on it so it's not a copy and paste retelling of the story, but still remaining loyal to it.
So the idea of Dabura being sent to Heaven because Yemma thought he'd actually enjoy Hell, that's an amusing idea. I wonder if that filler was inspiration for Frieza's personal Hell in Resurrection F. The difference being, of course, that Frieza's Hell of sentient, cuddly teddy bears was actually torture to him, while Dabura was reformed by his time in Heaven.
I like Dabura. I even think the idea of the literal devil becoming a pacifist is kinda funny. Imagine his sister resurrecting him, only to find that he's completely changed in the afterlife. That dynamic between them would be hilarious.
Realistically, though, given Toriyama's rules for the afterlife as opposed to the anime filler, Dabura should have been reincarnated after his soul was cleansed. He's probably some random human out there now, similar to how Buu was reincarnated as Uub.