Glue On Lower Rear Quarter Rust Repair Panels - No Welding!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This video shows how to glue on lower rear quarter panel rust repair patch panels using SEM Impact Resistant Structural Adhesive. Tools, Materials, Lakeside Merch below:
🔥 Air hammer bit for Molding Removal: www.dentmagict... (similar to the one in the video)
🔥 Die grinder: www.harborfrei...
🔥 Cut off wheel for die grinder: www.harborfrei...
🔥 Masking tape: 3M 06652 Automotive Refinish Masking Tape
🔥 Sheet metal ripper bit for air hammer: shop.snapon.co...
🔥 Tin snips: Wiss Aviation Snips
🔥 Electric Metal Shears: www.harborfrei...
🔥 Patch Panels: raybuck.com or millsupply.com
🔥 Electric sander/polisher: www.harborfrei...
🔥 36 grit fiber resin discs: benchmarkabras...
🔥 Small sander/grinder: Astro Pneumatic 222S 5" Sander
🔥 Large Vise Grip clamps: www.harborfrei...
🔥 1/8" Drill bits - www.harborfrei...
🔥 Body hammer: www.jbtools.co...
🔥 Glue: SEM Structural Impact Resistant Adhesive - Part number 39757
🔥 Lakeside Merchandise: brothersdesign...
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Thank you for taking time to film these videos. Fantastic content!
i like this guy... coming from a struggling painter in FLA... seasons greetings
Thanks Alex - it's too hot to paint down there!
Jerry, I just finished adding patch panels to the front fenders on my 1970 Datsun Roadster. I bought the patch panels, they went on the bottom of the fender behind the the front whee. The first I did before I saw your video on gluing the panels on and welded that one. The second one I glued on with 3M 8115 Panel Bind adhesive. The results, I am better at gluing than welding! I finished them both with Bondo Glass so they both look about the same. The only problem I had with the gluing was some of the adhesive got behind a couple of the screws and I had a heck of a tome getting them out. Any future panels will be glued on (I will be more careful with the adhesive behind the Screws). Thanks for all of the videos you put out, the are very helpful.
That's great to hear - love hearing success stories like that. Those patch panels are going to last a long time. If you are interested, you can upload the pictures and comments to the Lakeside "Project" Discord - discord.com/invite/Qm6qJgcubu Have a great week Leigh :)
Nicely done Bud!! Ya can't beat the Ol' Air Chisel eh!!☻
Nope - you can't. Have a good weekend RK :)
Drill a series of 1/8" holes offset from each other in both panels,
Apply enough to get
squeeze out on the lap joint and clamp up,
We also recommend to wipe a coat over the lap joint ' sand and then apply body filler.
I taught Sems classes in the early 2000's when glued on panles were becoming popular. Norton also makes some good products.
What did you recommend for the holes after the screws were removed?
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When you clamp it up' the glue / Sems squeezes into the holes = giving it something extra to
grip to.
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Sems to fill the screw holes.
Good job. Don’t be afraid to do glued lap joints. They generally last longer than we ourselves do! Cars today have many factory glued panels. Corvettes have always been glued together. These panels last a good 50 years or more.
Wipe a coat of what?
That’s some interesting technology. I can see how it saves a lot of work, compared to welding and grinding.👍
I didn't even realize this was an option! Now I can stop endlessly watching welding videos on RUclips and just get on with fixing my jag!
Yes you can. If you have ?s, feel free to ask :)
My sons 95 Dakota 4x4 will be getting this as soon as the snow leaves. I have the 2 new front fenders and rocker panels, but having a very hard time finding cab corners. Great video. stay safe.
Sometimes you have to make your own patches - it's not bad for cab corners - thanks for watching and stay safe too RN :)
I was just telling someone the other day that they should glue in their cowl rot patch so they don't have to worry about the insulation, ducts and harness up behind their dash melting or catching fire.
Plus, gluing creates a seam where water can never get in between the panels.
I wish I used it more often. I've already paid the stupid price for the 3M plural component gun.....
Man they don't use giant torch welders they use precision machines that do tac and mig welds nothing is going to catch fire lmao.
I do agree that this new technology and technique is definately a good alternative.
👍🏻looks good!!! We sure came along way from the days of leading. I would love to see Gene Winfield using that poduct on his cars! Have a great weekend!
You're right. Thanks for the support Michael - have a good weekend :)
I think this person is much better,
Nice old school repair. Not visualy the best but rust free guarantee.
Thanks SP :)
I thought this was click bait but you really glued a panel on. This is crazy!
Much of a new car is glued together.
Lol actually panel bond has been used for several years now
Its amazing to me how thin the adhesive section is.
One would almost be tempted to put the panel over the old one for added support ?????
As in, leave as much of the original panel as possible.???
Great video Jerry you make it look to easy!
Thanks again UPK - spring is here my friend :)
I have a panel Van with side windows I want to delete but I'm concerned about welding the steel in places of the glass with warpage. This might work well for that application.
Poyda "Pedo" Poyderson
great video, Iam learning so much from you....
Thanks JB - glad to hear it - feel free to ask ?s - any video/any ?
I worked there at the Frame Plant in 1977.
Cool 👍😊
I've got a rust car that's like 80% fixed with new welded in patches, and I got burned out.
After playing with that 3m panelbond, I'm gonna use as much as I can for what's left to do, whenever I get back on it
It's real easy to get burned out doing rust repair. You have to take breaks. Work on it for a few hours, go in the house have a coffee and rest for the day. If you really feel like going and doing more fine but you've done your work for the day. A lot of small steps = big progress. Sometimes it seems very overwhelming but again just take your time and take breaks :)
I like your process. Simple enough, effective and fast.
Have you tried using stainless steel flush mount, closed/sealed, blind rivets?
Stainless steel for a steel to steel to steel connection.
Flush mount would leave no protrusions to bury or sand down into nothingness.
A closed or sealed type rivet does not have shaft running through it. The shaft is internally connected to the bottom of a cup like rivet instead of a tube type. So no hole through the middle.
As it is still a blind rivet you don't need a special tool to use it. The all in one that also slices, dices, and Julienne's fries.
Add a combo punch/notcher to run a stepped bead to recess the top panel flush to the original panel. It will also increase overall strength.
Just Thinkingoutloud
Sounds like it would last forever 👍 Thanks for your input Tayro - I appreciate the support my friend :)
Nice job. I really like your videos learning a lot. you make it seems so easy but it is really hard work.
Glad you enjoy the videos Walter - thanks for watching :)
Hey Sir. I have replaced dozenes of those bedsides. You fixed a part of it a year ago, why not the whole panel? I get what you are doing, very cool! Fun to learn from you rust people. Laugh out loud! Really.
I fix a little at a time for this guy. He lives close by so when I get a chance I fix another hole for him. Here's a follow up video on longevity if interested - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html
The fellow may not have the money to pay for a bedside removal and replace all in one big whack plus the cost of red paint
@@jonathanyates5198 You're right :)
Great video with very helpful information. Thank you for making it.
Glad it was helpful - thanks for watching Dana :)
@@LakesideAutobodyWhere do they sell that impact adhesive glue?!
Bad ass homie.💪🏽👏🏼👍🏼🙏🏼
My first job as a kid was a Miracle auto body 39.95 to paint a car 1972
Wow - 39.95 for a paint job?
Good video Jerry
Thanks Greg - always good to hear from you my friend - have a good weekend :)
Super job as always!
Thanks Uncle Mark - nice to hear from you my friend - have a good weekend :)
awesome video sir
Looks great!
Another hit! Thank you good sir!
Thanks 37. Have a good weekend my friend :)
excelent explanation. Thank you.
You're welcome AM - have a good weekend :)
Very good job man
I'm glad you liked the video Courtney - have a good weekend :)
Great video! Could you weld these types of panels as usual instead of using panel adhesive?
Absolutely - that's how it is done usually. It would be the same - lap weld, knock down the seam, fill, prime, block, paint - like this - ruclips.net/video/-1MvH_PWeeU/видео.html
Do you use any special style of rivets? I have a body panel that I repaired with panel bond with screws placed every 1.5-2inches. My current oversight was determining how I will fill the screws... Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
No - just plain rivets from the hardware. You can pull the screws and tap down those small holes and fill if you want. You won't have a problem as they are up high - moisture settles below that. It will stay dry up there and won't be a problem :)
@@LakesideAutobody Thank you for the help. Much apperciated all that you do!
@@walbertjames You're welcome James - I appreciate your comments and support :)
I don’t miss the rusty crusty vehicles of the mid west…
very nice work, the body molding sure helps hide the repair area. strait line not so much. smoke cigrits
Thanks 👍
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Why not cut out rusty bits and glue and pop rivet small patch panels on the outside? Tap down the overlap and back fill with bog.
@white trash garage answered that question on another comment
Nice job. I do believe that panel adhesive is one of the worst things to get on your hands. It's tough to get off if you don't do it right away
Lacquer thinner and then a good hand cleaner works miracles, but even then a little staining is left for a few days
You'll be wearing it for a while for sure.
How does this hold up to freeze thaw conditions? Will it delaminate or become brittle? By the way thats a sharp looking hat. I think I'll order one next week👍
You'll never have issues - factories have used it for years now. Here's a follow up vid on past repairs - even the JB Welded cab corner is perfect today after 3-4 winters - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html Thanks about the hat - I'll have some Lakeside mixing boards soon too :)
A much more corrosion-resistant repair than spot welding.
You're right and that's why many shops use this method - water tight seam. ❄🎄❄
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What’s the strength of the glue? Thinking about fixing a rust on my 72 dodge
I've glued many panels on with it and have never had a problem - rockers, door bottoms, cab corners, wheel arches and more. Here's a follow up video on some of those repairs that are holding up after years - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html
anything cheaper than that huge bottle of glue?
I have used JB Weld and had really good luck - still good today - ruclips.net/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/видео.html follow up vid - ruclips.net/video/idrLzsz2eLg/видео.html
Where can I get that adhesive
www.abspaint.com/2-part-structural-impact-resistant-adhes-4?gclid=CjwKCAjwsJ6TBhAIEiwAfl4TWOpn7xJ5aXsgqNksz9yFVRwDC1W3R7nICUAK5Oa64xwWr1qeuAbt5hoCrRoQAvD You can get it at Amazon or Ebay also - maybe even less $ - Jerry
Why not use a flange tool??
You could - the only issue is that the typical flange tool is 1/2" - not sure if they make one wider for more gluing surface :)
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Thanks my friend :)
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Shaking head on that one this industry has got lazy
Lots of shops glue now because of the water tight seam. Never have to worry about it :)
@@LakesideAutobody o ya I know and coke can body panels I sold my collision shop couple yrs ago and open a custom and classic restoration shop doing full builds and collision work on older cars
@@rongamble9884 Are you having more fun now? - I would imagine there is less pressure :)
@@LakesideAutobody there's still pressure because people watch to much gas monkey overhauling all that and don't understand why it takes 18-24 months to do a build
@@rongamble9884 Ah... got it. You'll have to one day just do it for yourself 👍🔥😊
What company sells these panel's, can someone kindly tell m e..😊
Raybuck.com or Millsupply.com